Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Sunday Service, episode thirteen, brought
Speaker 1: to you by Coulton Conspiracy Podcast. And I'm also going
Speaker 1: to be a swapcast with Josh Monday Christian and Conspiracy podcast,
Speaker 1: so I'll put it on both channels. I really appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys joining us today. We have a two awesome
Speaker 1: guests today. One of them is I haven't met Ed yet.
Speaker 1: This is the first time meeting him, but I will
Speaker 1: do a solo show with Ed as well, but today.
Speaker 2: I just thought i'd bring him on.
Speaker 1: I mean, he he has He's definitely awesome because he
Speaker 1: just comes on with Gary Wayne like on a on
Speaker 1: a whim. That's amazing, bro, Thank you so much. So
Speaker 1: Ed is he's actually a true seeker, a researcher, a
Speaker 1: Christian and an amazing guy.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I heard him on Sam Tripley's podcast, Tinfoil Hat Podcast.
Speaker 1: And also Heidi from Unfiltered Podcast actually introduced us. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate that. Heidi and Ed Maybrey. How you doing today, brother?
Speaker 3: I am good. Thanks have me Honor, really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Thank you. With Gary.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir yes, sir so yeah and and and Gary
Speaker 1: needs no introduction, but we have Gary Wayne.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys can see the book.
Speaker 2: It's hard with this. Uh hold on, where does it?
Speaker 2: I can't remember. There's like a sweet spot by stand
Speaker 2: up or something. I don't know.
Speaker 4: There we go, all right, the.
Speaker 1: Genesis Conspiracy, and then Gary has another book out he'll
Speaker 1: tell you about.
Speaker 2: But Gary, how's it going, brother.
Speaker 4: It's going well.
Speaker 5: Very happy to be here tonight and so much looking
Speaker 5: forward to the conversation. And uh, working hard on a
Speaker 5: lot of interviews these days. I've set booked three aside
Speaker 5: for a little bit. I'll get back at that again
Speaker 5: early next year. Been updating my website, so I've done
Speaker 5: a few changes on the Genesis sixth Conspiracy dot com.
Speaker 5: So I have bundling page put on there now it's
Speaker 5: page three with the discounts as well for multiple books.
Speaker 5: And I have updated the media section there where I
Speaker 5: put fifteen new videos up, not videos, but audios up
Speaker 5: where I work with a host who is a good
Speaker 5: Christian but needs to have questions answered. So we go
Speaker 5: through each section of book one and book two, so
Speaker 5: fifteen sections cover the overview of the sections and then
Speaker 5: really important questions that Christians I think need answered out
Speaker 5: of every section of the book so that people can
Speaker 5: get a good feel for the book. And this is
Speaker 5: book two, if people aren't aware of it, and this
Speaker 5: one is specifically designed for Christians, and people were I
Speaker 5: said I would never write a sequel to Gen six
Speaker 5: to one, and I started on this other book. And
Speaker 5: the response from Book one was is we loved the book,
Speaker 5: but we would like a book that's going to go
Speaker 5: with that kind of research, very deep into the Bible,
Speaker 5: and unlike other people have done it. So if you
Speaker 5: can do you've done to other organizations and religions and
Speaker 5: do that with a Bible. And even though I go
Speaker 5: fairly deep in book one, and this is a dive
Speaker 5: that is going to just absolutely light up the Old
Speaker 5: Testament for people. And I've moved all of the footnotes
Speaker 5: to actual footnotes on the same page because there's so
Speaker 5: much information there that you want to be able to
Speaker 5: read the information and the sourcing on it. At the
Speaker 5: same time, I've been working on the audio for book two,
Speaker 5: so it's available and Kindle and it's also available in print.
Speaker 5: Book one is available in all three. Audio was approved
Speaker 5: by myself a couple of weeks ago. On Amazon, Audible
Speaker 5: and iTunes. Should be out day to day. I was
Speaker 5: hoping it was going to be out for Black Friday.
Speaker 5: Still not up yet from when I checked earlier or yesterday,
Speaker 5: but might be up today.
Speaker 4: We'll have to have a look at that.
Speaker 5: So for people who want it in any sort of format,
Speaker 5: it's there. And I would describe book two as Book
Speaker 5: one on Steroids for Christians. And if people like the
Speaker 5: work of doctor Heiser, this is doctor Heiser on Steroids
Speaker 5: for Christians.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 1: Well we need that, man, We definitely need that. We
Speaker 1: need the spiritual side explained, and we should.
Speaker 2: I'll probably have ed.
Speaker 1: I'll probably have you back on dude to to do
Speaker 1: some of that, you know, some of that explaining, and
Speaker 1: maybe you guys can do it. Maybe have another show
Speaker 1: together and we could we can knock out some supernatural
Speaker 1: stuff and and the Christian side. So yeah, so guys,
Speaker 1: today I thought we'd go over some uh I know,
Speaker 1: Sunday service, we're usually going over the Bible.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a step back.
Speaker 1: We we we we just ended in Exodus four and
Speaker 1: we'll take a step back from that real quick. And
Speaker 1: And since I want to have Gary on my show,
Speaker 1: Josh Bunday Christian conspiracy podcast or someone like ed on.
Speaker 1: I just want to share with with this audience as well,
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure that both audiences get
Speaker 1: this information. But we'll be going over the banking families,
Speaker 1: you know, like the Swiss Bank.
Speaker 2: You know, we'll probably hopefully we'll get.
Speaker 1: A little bit into Black Rock and and and and
Speaker 1: companies like that, you know, And I just kind of
Speaker 1: want to find out the bloodline. I know that ed
Speaker 1: has some information that he can connect to the Bible,
Speaker 1: and and Gary as much as you can connected to
Speaker 1: the Bible, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 2: Or prophecy, that'd be awesome. But yeah, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd like to know about these bloodlines and
Speaker 1: how they connect to to UH, to the prophecy or
Speaker 1: or anything in the Biblical.
Speaker 3: Just give just a quick intro to your to your
Speaker 3: own yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, because I know first I've
Speaker 3: been on your show. Hopefully it'll be the first of
Speaker 3: more than one time. But for those who don't know
Speaker 3: at Maybury, I my website is a faith by reason
Speaker 3: dot net And and as as the name implied, I
Speaker 3: don't believe that there is a divorce between rational faith,
Speaker 3: the faith that God asks of us and and reason
Speaker 3: I am and I'm I'm a strategist and an analyst
Speaker 3: by by career, and that's that's been what I've always
Speaker 3: done my entire my, my entire career, and you know,
Speaker 3: raise Christian, but I was, But I'm a questioner. I
Speaker 3: like the analyze things. I like to do deep analysis,
Speaker 3: and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Some
Speaker 3: people will say that, you know, you shouldn't question God.
Speaker 3: I was brought up thinking, being taught that, but that's
Speaker 3: just not who I am. And I've gone on a
Speaker 3: journey through college and beyond with the idea that you know,
Speaker 3: if God is real, which I believe he is, then
Speaker 3: he should then his information about him should conform to
Speaker 3: logic and reason, which because He would have created it
Speaker 3: as he created all information. And that's the journey I've
Speaker 3: gone on, and that's how I approach the Bible of spirituality.
Speaker 3: And I created my side in my presence, my ministry
Speaker 3: for Christians who are like minded, who are deep thinkers
Speaker 3: and analytical thinkers, and I do, you know, very very
Speaker 3: deep systematic analysis of everything, and I do it from
Speaker 3: the supernatural point of view, which I know, you know,
Speaker 3: Gary's down with that as well, you know, with the
Speaker 3: things though with the Nephelim and a topic that I
Speaker 3: absolutely love and because I think if you don't take
Speaker 3: the supernatural world view, i'llah Michael Heizer, who I was
Speaker 3: fortunate enough to have him introduce me to that world,
Speaker 3: then you're missing at minimum eighty percent of the Bible.
Speaker 3: And so that is my mission, is to help Ristan
Speaker 3: thinkers understand why our faith actually makes sense using logic, reason,
Speaker 3: the systematic analysis. And happy to be here and I'm
Speaker 3: happy to chime in on on some of the things
Speaker 3: that we're going to talk about with Gary.
Speaker 1: All right, man, thank you so much. And I appreciate
Speaker 1: to an introduction. I had some stuff here I could
Speaker 1: have read more into too. I should have I should
Speaker 1: have brought up. So I appreciate that. So Gary, if
Speaker 1: you want to start, I think ed what will chime
Speaker 1: in when he when he'd liked to, and we'll we'll
Speaker 1: have a good show.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, I guess the first question I would have before
Speaker 5: I start is is where where would we like to
Speaker 5: start on that?
Speaker 4: How?
Speaker 5: You know, do you want to look at modern banking
Speaker 5: today and work backwards or do you want to look at.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get into like the families that are running,
Speaker 1: like you know, the that are running the you know
Speaker 1: where they came from, like if they do have some
Speaker 1: nepheline connection, you know, kind of go there and then
Speaker 1: make our way forward if that's okay, or you can
Speaker 1: or you can And honestly, however, you want to work
Speaker 1: at Gary because you guys are the experts.
Speaker 2: I'm just the host.
Speaker 5: You know, Well, it'll go a thousand different ways before
Speaker 5: we're done. So you know, I would look at, you know,
Speaker 5: two very important groups and as we look at modern
Speaker 5: banking and Western banking, and then how that sort of
Speaker 5: intersects around the world.
Speaker 4: So I would look at the Royales that are.
Speaker 5: In the Knights Templar group that you know, take Jerusalem
Speaker 5: in ten ninety nine and sponsored by the Priority of
Speaker 5: Seon or the Barons of the Council, and then they
Speaker 5: separate that into a Senior and Junior order in eleven eighteen,
Speaker 5: and with who do hew to pay on being grand
Speaker 5: Master of the Junior Order? And with that you see tons,
Speaker 5: not tons, but I guess you could say tons because
Speaker 5: there's a lot of gold back there. There wasn't really cash, right,
Speaker 5: gold and jewels and things like that that was poured
Speaker 5: in and land gifts to the Knight's templar. And then
Speaker 5: they transition that to buy locations on all the key
Speaker 5: roads and strategic locations throughout Europe on the way to
Speaker 5: the Middle East, and through those strategic locations they invent
Speaker 5: modern banking. And so they do a couple of things
Speaker 5: that are unique. What they do is one is is
Speaker 5: they do lower interest rates than typically what the money
Speaker 5: changers were doing and what was coming out of the
Speaker 5: of the Jewish money traders in Europe, and they created
Speaker 5: something that was really significant where it was you could
Speaker 5: deposit your money in Paris or London wherever else and
Speaker 5: then for the fee and the charge, you know, and
Speaker 5: the commission to look after that, they would have that
Speaker 5: money waiting for you when you got to Jerusalem, so
Speaker 5: that the royales and the nobles could get there without
Speaker 5: being rocked, and they would have as much money as
Speaker 5: they would need while they were there. And they invented
Speaker 5: the modern check they put in modern credit systems. They
Speaker 5: were the world bank of that period of time, and
Speaker 5: so not only were they the most powerful army in
Speaker 5: the world at that time. They were also the most
Speaker 5: powerful banking system in the world at that time, and
Speaker 5: we owe pretty much all of that banking system that
Speaker 5: we have today to them. So when they were disbanded
Speaker 5: in thirteen oh seven, those assets are in play, and
Speaker 5: there's protection that the Templars are going to put into
Speaker 5: play through several different avenues. And you've got royales in
Speaker 5: the Roman Church trying to get access to all of
Speaker 5: that cash and that power. And so the first thing
Speaker 5: that we need to sort of keep in mind with
Speaker 5: that event is that even though you have some of
Speaker 5: the treasure and age going to Scotland and they startup
Speaker 5: of the Rosicrucians and the Freemasonry through Robert the Bruce
Speaker 5: and the Sainclair's, most of the hard treasure from the
Speaker 5: main office of the Paris branch goes to Switzerland to
Speaker 5: the Knights of Saint John, who's a sister organization, and
Speaker 5: of course they have the White Cross, and that White
Speaker 5: Cross is adopted by the Knights of Saint John and
Speaker 5: the Saladen Wars with the red background of blood and they.
Speaker 4: Set up because.
Speaker 5: They're a poor organization in ten forty, but after the
Speaker 5: taking of Jerusalem to Bulliad. He structurally sets them up
Speaker 5: as a corporation so to speak, and gives them a
Speaker 5: significant amount of money. They set up corporate headquarters and
Speaker 5: they supply significant amount mercenaries are there actually the ones
Speaker 5: doing all of the guarding of the pilgrim to Jerusalem,
Speaker 5: not really the templars. They're there for different reasons, even
Speaker 5: though that's the ruse. And so this significant amount of
Speaker 5: money that's going to these mercenaries to the Knights of
Speaker 5: Saint John, they are going to return or return.
Speaker 4: And well too.
Speaker 5: So it's a combination of ones who come from Switzerland
Speaker 5: and other ones that are going to go to Switzerland
Speaker 5: and live. And they set up their first sort of
Speaker 5: commander in about eleven thirteen. And this is where so
Speaker 5: it's well before thirteen oh seven, and so you're going
Speaker 5: to have this money end up in Switzerland. And then
Speaker 5: eleven eighty a fellow by the name of Kuno von
Speaker 5: Bouk of the Knights of Saint John donates another six
Speaker 5: significant amount of assets and he starts to get a
Speaker 5: whole bunch of money in from the Royals to set
Speaker 5: up this news that's going to be in by eleven ninety,
Speaker 5: they're essentially in business and operating. And I would take
Speaker 5: modern banking back as we understand it after the Templars,
Speaker 5: even though this is before as sort of the successor
Speaker 5: starts in about eleven ninety in Switzerland, and then the
Speaker 5: assets from the Templars go there before they're disbanded, and
Speaker 5: even to this day in modern Swiss banking, you have
Speaker 5: as the major bank officers generally officers.
Speaker 4: In the army.
Speaker 5: So if you're familiar with the sweitzers and the guards
Speaker 5: and the famous military aspect, that's all because of the
Speaker 5: Knights of Saint John and the Mercenaries, and it's the
Speaker 5: mercenaries and their white Cross that's going to be the
Speaker 5: flag of Switzerland and the flag of banking sort of basically.
Speaker 5: So that's the first major play into banking that's going
Speaker 5: to have to be replaced. And the Rothschilds are going
Speaker 5: to be the replacement to the banking facilities outside the church.
Speaker 5: And then you're going to set up the Bowers, who
Speaker 5: change their name to the Rothschilds in seventeen ninety when
Speaker 5: they set up the London Bank, and so they're going
Speaker 5: to be well, we'll get into that a little bit
Speaker 5: further let's go to the second arm that we need
Speaker 5: to keep. We need to understand.
Speaker 3: Gary, ask a quick question, yep. Are so the bankers
Speaker 3: that you're talking about right now are they rivals to
Speaker 3: the Vatican? Are they a part of the Vatican? Or
Speaker 3: are they sponsored by what that relationship is?
Speaker 4: I will I will get there.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so all right, I'll be patient then yeah.
Speaker 5: So uh and so when we look at who these
Speaker 5: templars are, just before I move on to that second arm,
Speaker 5: is understand that these are all royal's and the knights
Speaker 5: templar and so Deboulon is the first son of the
Speaker 5: Lorraine region of the angous hay On is and of
Speaker 5: course you have the focal Mozieu, which is going and
Speaker 5: they're going to take their King of Jerusalem title with them,
Speaker 5: So they're linked into all of the royal families of France,
Speaker 5: and there's a few other ones interconnected in there at
Speaker 5: that time. So the second major force of banking is
Speaker 5: going to come from Phoenicia and from the old tier
Speaker 5: commercial banking arm, which is also important to understand end
Speaker 5: time banking as well, with Babylon being the modern version
Speaker 5: of tier and controlling all the banking and commerce in
Speaker 5: Revelation eighteen and grows so rich to that the ten
Speaker 5: Kings are going to partner with Anti Christ to overthrow Babylon.
Speaker 5: Just to back that up a little bit in terms.
Speaker 4: Of what I was saying.
Speaker 5: And so we had you have a wave of merchant
Speaker 5: royales from the Canaanite, Tirian, Phoenician, Sedonian bloodlines that are
Speaker 5: going to move to Venice and Florence, and out of
Speaker 5: that comes the junior Black nobility versus the senior Black nobility.
Speaker 5: Not that these bloodlines aren't old coming out of Phoenicia,
Speaker 5: but in Rome in Italy they're considered the junior arm
Speaker 5: because they've migrated there. So that's going to include families
Speaker 5: like the Medici's for example, and all of the families
Speaker 5: that come from Florence and Venice that are going to
Speaker 5: control banking for a significant period of time, and they're
Speaker 5: different from the senior Black nobility, because that's going to
Speaker 5: be like the Fabia Gens, which is the military part,
Speaker 5: or the Julia Agens that goes back to Augustus Caesar,
Speaker 5: the one hundred families, back to Romulus and Ramis, and
Speaker 5: back to Aris, the patriarch, god of Mars as it
Speaker 5: would have been called in the Latin pantheon, a different
Speaker 5: name as it would have been known in the Etruscan
Speaker 5: and Indo Aryan language that were it was the original
Speaker 5: pantheon set up. So that banking is going to be
Speaker 5: in place for the Catholic Church right up to the
Speaker 5: time of the rise of the Templars, and then the
Speaker 5: templars are going to take it, and then they're going
Speaker 5: to take that banking arm back again, right because the
Speaker 5: Medicis are in a takeover in about the fifteen to
Speaker 5: sixteen hundreds in that sort of range. So you see
Speaker 5: that sort of jockeying back and forth, and so enter
Speaker 5: in one other organization called the Jesuits, which are sponsored
Speaker 5: by the Rosy Cross Order in the higher level of
Speaker 5: Adepts of the of the thirty three Families, that are
Speaker 5: going to try and get the new templars back into
Speaker 5: the Roman Church.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 5: Feteen seven, after the Night's templars fall in play countries
Speaker 5: like Spain and in Portugal, for example, the King of
Speaker 5: Spain and the King of Portugal they seize all of
Speaker 5: the templar assets so the Roman Church can't get it.
Speaker 5: And so in Spain they set up the Montesa Order
Speaker 5: and it's basically a new templar order, and you have
Speaker 5: the Calatrava Order that's set up in Portugal, and so
Speaker 5: you have them controlling all of these assets for the
Speaker 5: kings of those two countries, and that is not going.
Speaker 4: To go to Rome.
Speaker 5: Roll that forward to the early fifteen hundreds. The Montesa
Speaker 5: Order is ran by a grandmaster name Francis Borgia of
Speaker 5: the Borgia Black nobility of the Popelines right, and he's
Speaker 5: a basque in the Royal court of the Holy Roman
Speaker 5: Empire of Spain, and in the fifteen twenty he's Ignatius
Speaker 5: of Loyola and with his Mary apparitions and initiations comes
Speaker 5: along and is going to change Rome. Is his mission
Speaker 5: from the inside, but he falls apart with the inquisition
Speaker 5: inquisitors and ends up in jail. So Francis Borgia has
Speaker 5: been watching him and he seems to have the zeal
Speaker 5: that he's looking for for his greater plan, and he
Speaker 5: bails him out of jail, then uses his family connections
Speaker 5: and fully Roman emperors support to get sponsorship into papal bulls,
Speaker 5: just as the Knights Templar. We're starting in about fifteen
Speaker 5: thirty four, and those bulls will go right through to
Speaker 5: through the fifteen forties with a series of bulls. And
Speaker 5: I won't bore people with the minutia on that. And
Speaker 5: so they get control of the seminary.
Speaker 4: Schools and.
Speaker 5: Education in the Roman Church at that time. And then
Speaker 5: in fifteen fifty Francis Borgia becomes a Jesuit. By fifteen
Speaker 5: sixty five he becomes the third Grand.
Speaker 4: Master of the Jesuit Order.
Speaker 5: And by the fifteen seven fifteen seventy, between the King
Speaker 5: of Spain and Francis Borgia, they create a war between
Speaker 5: Spain and the Vatican for power and control and they
Speaker 5: bankrupt basically the Vatican, or at least get them to heal.
Speaker 5: And in exchange for that, Francis Borgia gets control of
Speaker 5: the Roman Catholic banking and he moves that to Switzerland. Now,
Speaker 5: typically we understand the Rothschilds the other arm and I'll
Speaker 5: stop after this.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna take the whole show up on you.
Speaker 4: I said, I.
Speaker 6: Just foundation so that we can move forward. Yeah, And
Speaker 6: so the roth Childs already are putting their assets in
Speaker 6: into Switzerland, but they don't formally move that to about
Speaker 6: the nineteen nineties to put their head office there. But
Speaker 6: Switzerland was created as a location for the royals and nobility,
Speaker 6: which are royals as well, for the most part, to
Speaker 6: store money. And most of it's off the books.
Speaker 5: So if we think that the money that Elon Musk
Speaker 5: has or Bezos or Gates, that is nothing.
Speaker 4: And it's not the true money.
Speaker 5: And when I was doing trying to get research done
Speaker 5: on it in the early twenty late nineteen hundreds, I
Speaker 5: kept getting a consistency to the off the Book's number
Speaker 5: and surprising how many people will talk off the record
Speaker 5: on off the Book's money. But it was estimated at
Speaker 5: that time to be somewhere between three and five hundred trillion.
Speaker 5: You can only imagine what that would be today. And
Speaker 5: so their a whole organizational structure of bloodlines can only
Speaker 5: be supported if you control.
Speaker 4: Money and the commerce in the world.
Speaker 5: And they don't want people to have access to their
Speaker 5: money and they don't want people to know how.
Speaker 4: Much they have.
Speaker 5: So that's why it was set up for the Royales
Speaker 5: of the West.
Speaker 1: Wow, incredible information. So that was a great layout. But
Speaker 1: if you want to step in and kind.
Speaker 3: Of this is great. I was taking notes on me too.
Speaker 2: I was typing over if you saw.
Speaker 3: Because because I have like a big picture of view
Speaker 3: of these things. And again Gary was giving some great
Speaker 3: basically putting flesh on the bones of these things. Here's
Speaker 3: my my contention, and I'll back this up or give
Speaker 3: my supposition as it relates to the Book of Daniel
Speaker 3: and Daniel chapter seven. My contention is that the Roman
Speaker 3: Empire never went away. It just it's it's still is
Speaker 3: in control and power to this day. So if you
Speaker 3: go to Daniel chapter seven, that's when he has a
Speaker 3: vision of these these four four beasts for theory on
Speaker 3: in septuagen These are you know, you have the lion,
Speaker 3: the bear, the the leopard, and this indescribable beast which
Speaker 3: you know are it's interpreted as you know, a Babylon
Speaker 3: under an African Asert being the lion, metal, Persia being
Speaker 3: the bear, Greece under under Alexander being the leopard, and
Speaker 3: then this final uh beast, which is which it says
Speaker 3: there would last to the end time would logically be Rome.
Speaker 3: And of course the idea or the thought that most
Speaker 3: people have and we were all taught in schools that
Speaker 3: the Roman Empire fell. You know around the third fourth
Speaker 3: ish century a d. But my contention is that if
Speaker 3: the Bible's correctors I believe it is that empire continues,
Speaker 3: and it didn't. It just transformed from an imperial imperial
Speaker 3: senate into athyocricy. You know, we're starting with Constantine and
Speaker 3: and if you look at it to this day and
Speaker 3: know Gary's talking about this now, which is why I
Speaker 3: asked my question before, that the bankers are the ones
Speaker 3: that are really running things, and those bankers seem to
Speaker 3: have their origin, and you know, Gary was doing a
Speaker 3: great job of showing that origin. So I'm just trying
Speaker 3: to trace that line back, you know, or or or
Speaker 3: do are scenes and Medici's I know those names and
Speaker 3: that you know, it's it's really sounding right. That's why
Speaker 3: I was taking those notes. So when in down in
Speaker 3: chapter seven, you basically have a trial going on because
Speaker 3: there is this idea of it. It's an esoteric term
Speaker 3: called as above so below, and it's when people hear
Speaker 3: Christians it kind of makes a hair on your back
Speaker 3: of your next stand up because that's the words of
Speaker 3: Aleister Crowley and Helena of Blavatsky and those kind of folks.
Speaker 3: But what it actually is is a spiritual law that
Speaker 3: all beings in the spiritual realm and in our realm
Speaker 3: have to obey, which is, basically, in a nutshell, what
Speaker 3: is spoken in one realm manifests in the other. You
Speaker 3: speak it in the heavenly realms and manifests on earth,
Speaker 3: and vice versa. And this is a law that even
Speaker 3: God Jehovah Yahweh of the Bible participates in. When he
Speaker 3: created the world, what did he do? He spoken into existence?
Speaker 3: He spoke, let there be light, Let there be animals, trees,
Speaker 3: so forth, and so on. He's spoken in the heavens,
Speaker 3: infest it on earth. We do the same thing when
Speaker 3: we pray, we speak in this realm, so that affects
Speaker 3: the spiritual realm. So that is a spiritual law that
Speaker 3: is objective that all of us spirit beings, which we are,
Speaker 3: we are spirit beings housed in these flesh bodies, we obey.
Speaker 3: So what's going on in Daniel chapter seven when you
Speaker 3: see these these beasts, this is the bad guys, are
Speaker 3: the fallen angels, the fallen yelling. To be more more accurate,
Speaker 3: this is their plan for how they're going to rule.
Speaker 3: They're going to have these through these four empires, and
Speaker 3: then in the last empire you have the little Horn
Speaker 3: who is set up and speaks these pompous words. We
Speaker 3: know the energy we call the Antichrist, who is going
Speaker 3: to basically rule. And so they've basically spoken this is
Speaker 3: these are this is the bad guys speaking what their
Speaker 3: plan is for for how they're going to establish their kingdom.
Speaker 3: And so since they spoke it, it's going to manifest.
Speaker 3: We're seeing it manifest. We saw it because you know,
Speaker 3: Daniel lived in the time of of of the Babylonian
Speaker 3: and Persian empires and the other empires. Happened just as
Speaker 3: the as Daniel seven said. So because they gave, they
Speaker 3: tipped their hand and said this is our plan. God
Speaker 3: could justly judge them, because again it's what Michael Heiser
Speaker 3: called you already, but they not yet. They put their
Speaker 3: plan out there. So God said, great, that's your plan.
Speaker 3: Here's my counterplan. Because as soon as they made their plan,
Speaker 3: what happened next. You see the Ancient of days God
Speaker 3: sitting on his throne. Books were open and thrones were
Speaker 3: set up. This is a court room. He can justly
Speaker 3: judge them based on their plan, and his judgment was
Speaker 3: that he would have a son of Man riding on
Speaker 3: the clouds. One of the titles of God Jehovah was
Speaker 3: the Cloud Writer, So a son of Man, a human
Speaker 3: being writing on the clouds. He was basically saying, a
Speaker 3: human being with the authority of God will inherit the nations.
Speaker 3: And of course we know that's Jesus, so that's and
Speaker 3: and yes, Jesus will inherit all these nations. So that's
Speaker 3: God's counterplan to theirs. My whole point in this is
Speaker 3: that he's later allowed in advance. And we know that
Speaker 3: this final empire, the indescribable base, which I believe is
Speaker 3: Rome in all its spaces, all the way up to now,
Speaker 3: and the influence that they have now through the banking industry,
Speaker 3: that's what we're seeing. So it you speak things in
Speaker 3: one realm and they manifest in the other, and I
Speaker 3: just think it's really fascinating.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I underline a couple of things on that is
Speaker 5: is number one, is is that.
Speaker 4: So above so below?
Speaker 5: Understand that they counterfeit everything in the poly and I
Speaker 5: know you know that add but just for the audience,
Speaker 5: and so we ought not to try and justify why
Speaker 5: there's a similar expression. But we do need to understand
Speaker 5: how they understand it, because on everything they have a
Speaker 5: polytheist lens that they understand everything. Their heaven isn't above
Speaker 5: as we would understand it. Their heavens is in hades
Speaker 5: or shale where they're God's rule, and so that's how
Speaker 5: they interpret that same thing. And so when they talk
Speaker 5: about God's will as well, they're using that to Greek
Speaker 5: word thelems. So when you undersecre the thelemic ideology of
Speaker 5: Crowley that you were mentioning as well, and the thelemic
Speaker 5: organizational structures that they use, they use that in a
Speaker 5: few different ways, all connecting into hades. And one of
Speaker 5: the interesting sort of aspects of it is is they
Speaker 5: use that and it's poorly translated into the English language,
Speaker 5: the Greek word thelmbs. It's actually twice for like a
Speaker 5: sexual orgy, and it shouldn't be really translated that way,
Speaker 5: but that reflects their view, so to speak. And so
Speaker 5: the other thing to keep in mind is is that
Speaker 5: the organizational structure of what they call their tholemic tree,
Speaker 5: which is an evergreen tree of Mount Herman, just as
Speaker 5: amrates are compared to the cedars of Leblon seedars of
Speaker 5: Lebanon in Amos two as is being tall as being
Speaker 5: like the seaters of Lebanon. So this is their organizational
Speaker 5: structure that they use that I've been told, and it
Speaker 5: has a trunk organization. And so where the banking and
Speaker 5: commerce intersects into the Thalambic truck organizations is at the
Speaker 5: Committee of three hundred families level. But you have a
Speaker 5: council of thirty three families above that, and I referenced them,
Speaker 5: so the ones that were the original group that of
Speaker 5: the what I would call the senior order of the
Speaker 5: Prior of Seon or the barons as they're talked about
Speaker 5: in the records of I'm trying to think of the
Speaker 5: historian that comes out of the Middle East.
Speaker 4: It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 5: And so above the Council of thirty three families you
Speaker 5: have the thirteen Western Families, and that's the Western organization,
Speaker 5: with the Rosicrucians below the Committee of three hundred the
Speaker 5: Illuminati and then first level of adept to it. At Freemasonry,
Speaker 5: these are the royal Masonic orders that dominate the Committee
Speaker 5: of three actually the top level of the Rosicrucians and
Speaker 5: up and so what they say is is we have
Speaker 5: our great agenda and our plans, but we don't control
Speaker 5: the money. We can't assert that. So they have to
Speaker 5: have the money to propel. They're what I call tongue
Speaker 5: in cheek, their perpetual war gene. You have to have
Speaker 5: the money to be able to do that. And so
Speaker 5: that's how they'll they will look at these kinds of things.
Speaker 5: So when I look at how does that transfer down
Speaker 5: through history from the first Roman Empire, we see those
Speaker 5: terms of the Holy Roman Empire, that these black nobility,
Speaker 5: of the greater Black nobility of Europe versus the Italian
Speaker 5: black nobility, which is two terms, but they're not always
Speaker 5: used for the larger organization or the smaller organization.
Speaker 4: They'll use them for both.
Speaker 5: So I call it the larger organization of the Black mobility,
Speaker 5: which is the other bloodlines of the royals in Western Europe.
Speaker 5: And so there's that larger council that you will funnel
Speaker 5: some of those in. So when you see when I
Speaker 5: talked about the Jesuits, they are not at the top
Speaker 5: of the order. I didn't even put them in the
Speaker 5: trunk order because they're the new templars.
Speaker 4: And through the Black nobility.
Speaker 5: You can whether or not you want to utilize the
Speaker 5: junior one that sponsors them back into existence again and
Speaker 5: backs them in the wars in the late eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 5: That's the junior Black mobility from Florence and Venice versus
Speaker 5: the senior.
Speaker 4: Black Mobi nobility.
Speaker 5: But if you go back into the Borgia line of
Speaker 5: the popes and back into them supplying people, it's more
Speaker 5: of the senior one.
Speaker 4: So you could make an argument that branch.
Speaker 5: Of the theater would go into either the Committee of
Speaker 5: three hundred or the Council of thirty three. So that's
Speaker 5: how I would sort of place that. And the reason
Speaker 5: why they had to be reassembled was that they were
Speaker 5: disassembled by the Royales in the early eighteen hundreds because
Speaker 5: they were causing too much grief, you know, like assassinating kings,
Speaker 5: overthrowing governments, all of what they were kind of sworn
Speaker 5: to do, and so they were forced by the Roman
Speaker 5: Church to disbandon them. And then with the Royals overplaying
Speaker 5: their hand a little bit and kidnapping and imprisoning popes
Speaker 5: in France, one of the popes decides that he's going
Speaker 5: to bring back the Jesuits because they need protection and
Speaker 5: so they start to come back with the merry apparitions
Speaker 5: that start to come up with lords and fatimah and
Speaker 5: that all sort of works together in terms of how
Speaker 5: they come back. So yes, there are you know, family
Speaker 5: like we talked about the media. You mentioned the Orsini,
Speaker 5: definitely part of those those blood lines. You have the Quanti,
Speaker 5: the Cologna, Messino, Borgesi, families like that, but those are
Speaker 5: not at the top of the Black nobility. Some of
Speaker 5: them is junior, some of them are part of the
Speaker 5: senior but not of the more powerful ones. And you
Speaker 5: know Savoy would be the most prominent royale. That's an
Speaker 5: Azou family line.
Speaker 3: Well, so you said at the top of you said
Speaker 3: Savoy Savoy. Yes, are they what what nationality?
Speaker 5: Which well Anjou is originally from the Middle East, Okay, interesting, yes,
Speaker 5: but they they would go back through the de vere
Speaker 5: family and then back to other names, and Anzou is
Speaker 5: in their belief system a reflection of their gene coming
Speaker 5: from Anu, the Sumerian.
Speaker 4: Pantheon God.
Speaker 5: So and I cover that often book two. So there's
Speaker 5: several different gensas of the family. So in the Black Nobility,
Speaker 5: I think I might have mentioned the Fabia and the
Speaker 5: Julia gens. You have the Elbi gens of Normandy and
Speaker 5: the Norse, and you also have the of the Greeks.
Speaker 5: You have two gensas there. You have the Cretizens, which
Speaker 5: would be a post Alluvian gens of Zeus, creating like
Speaker 5: the Herculeides bloodline through elk Many and Zeus, and these
Speaker 5: become the Guiges kings of Assyria, Asia minor.
Speaker 4: Parts of Greece.
Speaker 5: But you also have the traditional Helen's genos, which is
Speaker 5: a family that comes from Helen, son of Deucalion and Pyra,
Speaker 5: which are said to be the Greek Noah and his wife,
Speaker 5: whatever his wife's name is. We get no firm accounting
Speaker 5: and different ones in different apocrypha for the name of
Speaker 5: Noah's wife, but not listed in the Bible.
Speaker 4: And those aren't.
Speaker 5: That is not a human survival archstory. It's either a
Speaker 5: counterfeit or it is a survival of a giants.
Speaker 4: On another arc.
Speaker 5: Just as that you have a pishnin Versazudra, which is
Speaker 5: two thirds God, one third human and your typical archetypical
Speaker 5: giant and all of his family in the Sumerian tradition,
Speaker 5: and that's recorded in the Epic of Gilgamesh in this
Speaker 5: case to Kalian, son of Prometheus, which is a god.
Speaker 5: So it's a giant survival story if it's true. But
Speaker 5: they take the Hellings or the Greek genos that the
Speaker 5: sentence of Jeffet would have intermarried with in the Greece area,
Speaker 5: and over with the julia Jens from Romulus and Remus
Speaker 5: with our the original Indo Aryans of the Etruscans, just
Speaker 5: as the Scythians were a branch that would have been
Speaker 5: likely the originating Aboriginal people that the people of Babel
Speaker 5: sort of moved in amongst. But I'm down a rabbit hole.
Speaker 5: I want to back sort of out of here in
Speaker 5: terms of what we were talking about and get backing
Speaker 5: on track. So there are other families of bloodlines like
Speaker 5: the Ajous. I mean they produce a junior offshoot through intermarriage.
Speaker 5: That's the plantagene that most of the presidents take their
Speaker 5: blood lines back to.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, okay, right, I've heard that before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And part of the Albigens is the Rollo blood
Speaker 5: line that goes back to the Norse gods. That changes,
Speaker 5: and they changed their name in nine ten to eleven
Speaker 5: eighty after expropriating Normandy from the Ajous and they call
Speaker 5: it the Treaty of Saint Clair and they take their
Speaker 5: name Saint Clair from there, which the Sinclairs right and
Speaker 5: the Debruces are part of that Rollo bloodline as well,
Speaker 5: who become the Kings of Scotland that are going to
Speaker 5: intermarry with other Tuatha de Denan branches of Scotland and
Speaker 5: Ireland and the whole. So you've got that bloodline and
Speaker 5: different families to keep in mind. And you also have
Speaker 5: the Windsor family, which is the Hanover bloodline, and you
Speaker 5: can intermix some co Sackson there and a couple other
Speaker 5: of that intermarring and scioning that would also have Middle
Speaker 5: of Europa. So they're very powerful and we don't necessarily
Speaker 5: associate them with banking unless you link in the Knights
Speaker 5: of Saint John that she has or Queen Elizabeth had
Speaker 5: was sitting at the top of that and now King
Speaker 5: Charles the third head and the Knights of Saint John
Speaker 5: was the other arm of Vatican and banking, and the
Speaker 5: Knights of Saint John are members. They're less of now,
Speaker 5: but most of them still would be all sons of
Speaker 5: the Royales you have to have that as your pedigree
Speaker 5: to be there. They actually have nation status in the
Speaker 5: un which most people don't know, and a few other
Speaker 5: privileges there as well. And they were heavily involved in
Speaker 5: business and banking and politics and so similar to the Jesuits.
Speaker 5: And now, of course you have a Jesuit who's in
Speaker 5: charge of both of those organizations, so double powerful. So
Speaker 5: we need to keep those families in line. The Habsburgs
Speaker 5: are very rich and powerful as well, and are in
Speaker 5: behind the scenes as well, and they're part of you know,
Speaker 5: the hanover Middle Europe intermarriage of bloodlines, but also the
Speaker 5: Augieu with the innermarriage of the Lorraine families, that becomes
Speaker 5: the Habsburg Lorraine dynasty. And then that's how you get
Speaker 5: that Habsburg Lorraine King of Jerusalem title passed on to them,
Speaker 5: which is now held by King Philipp Orbon in Spain
Speaker 5: yeap through intermarriage and inheriting that and controls the Knights
Speaker 5: of the Golden Fleece Order that King Charles would have
Speaker 5: also a chair at because Queen Elizabeth had a chair
Speaker 5: there before and so and you'll find this interesting. The
Speaker 5: Norse Royal Masonic Order of Royal's is called the Knights
Speaker 5: of the Seraphone.
Speaker 2: The show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just can't make some of this stuff up,
Speaker 5: so they just sort of put it in. So we
Speaker 5: need to we need to keep those families ALIGNE. So
Speaker 5: part of the other families that are going to be
Speaker 5: involved on the commerce and the money is the Geezer uh,
Speaker 5: and people aren't all that familiar with them. I think
Speaker 5: that's probably on uh, the main ones that we have
Speaker 5: to keep in mind when we're talking about the money.
Speaker 5: But understand, all the royals have a lot of money
Speaker 5: right and off the books, but there are other families
Speaker 5: from from Europe, and who knows who the final thirteen are.
Speaker 5: I mean, you get different ones, but it's certainly not
Speaker 5: the pseudo blue bloods from North America.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 1: Well, that's awesome and and uh and to bring it
Speaker 1: like like to to now like where where do like
Speaker 1: black Rock, Vanguard and like World Economic Forum fit into
Speaker 1: these equations?
Speaker 4: Well ahead, it's your turn.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say I don't have anywhere near Gary's
Speaker 3: research into where these things are going in the small
Speaker 3: pictures since but I'll take it back to to some
Speaker 3: of the some of my my bigger picture ideas. I
Speaker 3: think listening to everything that Gary is saying, which it's
Speaker 3: again amazing. It's like we have two different worlds. We
Speaker 3: have the world that those of us don't have this
Speaker 3: bloodline live, and you have these this other world, you know,
Speaker 3: that's embedded within our world that is just these people.
Speaker 3: It's an amazing, an amazing web of of of folks,
Speaker 3: these neftel and blood lines that and what one thing
Speaker 3: a bit of trivia that your audience may already know
Speaker 3: when when Gary was mentioning the Borgias, it just reminds
Speaker 3: me of the Rodrigo Borgia who became a Pope Alexander.
Speaker 3: I think that the third of the sixth I forget
Speaker 3: which won, and of course his son Cesare was the
Speaker 3: person by whom they modeled the medieval Jesus on. So
Speaker 3: when we see, you know, the Jesus with the with
Speaker 3: with the go tee and the beard, you know, that's
Speaker 3: not a Middle Eastern Jewish man that that you know,
Speaker 3: that's just Chesad borg They you know, because because Rodrigo Borgia,
Speaker 3: the Pope Alexander, became pope right around the time of
Speaker 3: the Renaissance, when you had all these great artists meet Michaelangelo,
Speaker 3: Raphael all those guys who were who were, you know,
Speaker 3: painting the highest thing they could imagine, which was, of
Speaker 3: course the biblical stories. And and and Alexander said, well,
Speaker 3: since I am the pope, I'm God on earth. My
Speaker 3: son is technically the son of God on earth. So
Speaker 3: make it make Jesus look like him. And of course
Speaker 3: Chesaree abortion was not wasn't depicted as Jesus because he
Speaker 3: was such a great guy. He was actually a horrible
Speaker 3: human being. He was a he was a murderer, he
Speaker 3: was a he incest. He loved having intercourse with his
Speaker 3: sisterlo Creatia. But that's who. That's what we see when
Speaker 3: we when we see Jesus. But one thing I want
Speaker 3: to back up on these bloodlines. These people, we have
Speaker 3: this idea that their goal is to rule the world.
Speaker 3: That's not their big goals. If that was the case,
Speaker 3: they already do. I mean, they they effect that we
Speaker 3: rule the world. What do they really want? I think
Speaker 3: we have to go all the way back to the
Speaker 3: fallen Angels, the fallen Eeloheman Genesis chapter six, and then
Speaker 3: the pseudo piccker ful Book of Enoch. What did they want?
Speaker 3: They weren't trying to rule humanity. They wanted to replace humanity.
Speaker 3: These fallen angels wanted to replace God's offspring, God's physical
Speaker 3: spiritual high risk humanity with their physical spiritual hybrids, the nepheline.
Speaker 3: So it's going to make that really clear to the
Speaker 3: viewers and listeners that the ultimate goal is not to
Speaker 3: rule us, it's to replace us. That's why these bloodlines,
Speaker 3: That's one of the reason why I believe the bloodlines
Speaker 3: are so heavily guarded. They want to make sure that
Speaker 3: the people who are on top have these bloodlines so
Speaker 3: that they will be the ones who will ultimately be
Speaker 3: in control of the planet. And they want to wipe
Speaker 3: the rest of us out. That's the that's their their
Speaker 3: ultimate goal. And getting a little bit esoteric into my
Speaker 3: into Revelation because I on YouTube. I have an entire
Speaker 3: series sixty sixty episodes on the Book of Revelation. And
Speaker 3: my supposition is that the mark of the Beast is
Speaker 3: and I get this from my research I've done with
Speaker 3: La Marzouli and some others. I think the Beast is
Speaker 3: going to alter genetics. I think it's going to alter
Speaker 3: genetics to either make people into nephiline or to make
Speaker 3: them fit host for the spirit demons, which are the
Speaker 3: spirit of disembodied Nephilim to inhabit, because their ultimate goal,
Speaker 3: again is to make every person take this mark, because
Speaker 3: if they do, if they either become their altared to
Speaker 3: become nephilimp, or they are altered to be able to
Speaker 3: house these spirits, and that's how they will do the takeover.
Speaker 3: And anyone who doesn't do it is going to be killed.
Speaker 3: And that is the explanation that people may wonder about
Speaker 3: about why people who take the mark can't be saved,
Speaker 3: because the Bible is very explicit in revelation. If you
Speaker 3: take this mark, you're ineligible for salvation. How does that
Speaker 3: make sense if you're still a human being? If you
Speaker 3: can't you take the mark and then't say, hey, you
Speaker 3: know what I was wrong? God, I'm sorry, I want
Speaker 3: to change, I want to accept you. What if that
Speaker 3: mark alters you to the point where you're no longer
Speaker 3: human And if you're no longer human, you aren't eligible
Speaker 3: for salvation because Jesus didn't die for anyone who was.
Speaker 3: Jesus became a human being and died for humans. If
Speaker 3: you're not a human, then you are not eligible for
Speaker 3: salvation or if you are inhabited by a demonic spirit,
Speaker 3: then you can't repent because you're no longer driving your car.
Speaker 3: You have another entity next to you who's who's in control,
Speaker 3: and they would never repent. And this may also be
Speaker 3: why may also answer the mystery that you get in
Speaker 3: that you see in during the Seven Trumpets. I think
Speaker 3: that the actual the Fifth Trumpet judgment where there people
Speaker 3: are being attacked by these demonic locusts and they they
Speaker 3: want to die, but they can't. Well maybe the reason
Speaker 3: they can is because they're they're not driving. There's something
Speaker 3: else that's driving and that won't let them. So they
Speaker 3: feel the pain of these things or whatever, but they
Speaker 3: can no longer they're no longer control their faculties. So
Speaker 3: back to the big picture, I think that's really what's
Speaker 3: going on is an attempt at Nefel him takeover and
Speaker 3: to to basically replace us, you know, population control. All
Speaker 3: those things are are in line to get rid of
Speaker 3: normal humanity and replace them with the with the Nephelin bloodlines.
Speaker 3: Because again, these entities, they don't have any imagination, they
Speaker 3: can't think of anything new. If you want to know
Speaker 3: what their goal is, go back to the beginning, and
Speaker 3: that was their goal in Genesis chapter six. We want
Speaker 3: we are going to replace humanity, and that's we're still
Speaker 3: trying to do.
Speaker 5: And to destroy us by fire. Yes, and that probably
Speaker 5: was their intent before the flood, and we're just catching
Speaker 5: back up to that technology. And flood's probably an intercession
Speaker 5: by God, just as two Peter three talks about that,
Speaker 5: you know the world in the beginning that was destroyed
Speaker 5: by fire, that's the same destruction reserved for the end time.
Speaker 4: So and that's.
Speaker 5: Why Shiva is the god being honored as a destroyer
Speaker 5: god that you would recognize with the same title as
Speaker 5: a bad and a Napoleon coming out of the pit
Speaker 5: prison just before the midpoint of the last seven years.
Speaker 3: And isn't that the godess on the cern.
Speaker 4: Is not the god? Yea god and a horn god.
Speaker 5: Okay, gotcha, and you'll be very you may not be
Speaker 5: aware of it, but the horn God, whether it's Odin
Speaker 5: or Sirnunos and the Druidic are all satire god say
Speaker 5: their gods and got God's degraded seraphim. And you have
Speaker 5: an Etruscan god proto Latin and Romans that was called
Speaker 5: cern ce r N. It's an Indo Aryan word that's
Speaker 5: spelt c e r n or k e r n
Speaker 5: and Kern or cern and you'll see it transliterated both ways.
Speaker 5: It will show up as Karen in Hebrew for a
Speaker 5: horn or a mountain q e r e n as
Speaker 5: that would be transliterated into into English and it means
Speaker 5: an Indo Aryan a horned headed god.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so all of this is always going to be internected.
Speaker 5: And Chivas is the god that comes to destroys the
Speaker 5: world and through destruction of the world recreates a new
Speaker 5: world and does it through fire, and just as Lord
Speaker 5: Matreya is that Antichrist sort of allegory from the East
Speaker 5: of Gone and Indian New Age that they use that
Speaker 5: that's into air in for Miitra, and Lord Materia actually
Speaker 5: means Matrea in zero in Hinduism and Sanskrit actually means
Speaker 5: a covenant or an alliance. And Mithra comes at the
Speaker 5: end of the age like Shiva comes at the end
Speaker 5: of the age, so essentially the same god, and Shiva
Speaker 5: is kind of an evolution in its name into Shiva.
Speaker 5: People are trying to figure out where it comes from
Speaker 5: I think it comes from Mithra. But that's just connecting
Speaker 5: the dots that Mithra is also the god of the
Speaker 5: story of the god of the Zoroastrians and the main
Speaker 5: god for Mithra in the.
Speaker 4: Time of Rome.
Speaker 5: That's part of the convergence of that whole understanding and
Speaker 5: birthday to December twenty five into Christianity with Constantine.
Speaker 4: And all of that.
Speaker 5: And the goat god that the Templars worshiped was Baffomet,
Speaker 5: which was an icarous angel, which is the Greek word
Speaker 5: that's used for the mighty angels in the Book of Revelation.
Speaker 4: Only there the other ones. You go back to Donamus.
Speaker 5: And you know like this as well, you guys, probably
Speaker 5: and it means Baffomet means father, Mitra or Mitra and
Speaker 5: you drop the HH. Is added to languages throughout history,
Speaker 5: like for example, nepheline would be originally nepheline, originally npl
Speaker 5: raphaem would be rapim without the H and rpm in
Speaker 5: the original Semitic as it would have been done. So
Speaker 5: the H is kind of added into a lot of
Speaker 5: these words. So that's common with that Mitra, Mitra and Mithra.
Speaker 5: So and in twenty twenty five, Alice Bailey said, this
Speaker 5: was the time of the age of Lord Matreya coming
Speaker 5: not necessarily specifically that that year that we would recognize
Speaker 5: them or see them from an occult perspective, but anyways,
Speaker 5: and so when I look at all of this, I
Speaker 5: see this all directly connected into the end time. And
Speaker 5: as we see sort of this invisible empire of the
Speaker 5: Roman Empire that's not fully jointed and together and a
Speaker 5: lot of rivalries going on, but never really goes away
Speaker 5: like what you're saying, but will come back together in
Speaker 5: the end time. And it's amongst these ten Horns and
Speaker 5: Daniel seven that you're referring to for the Beast Empires,
Speaker 5: that this little horn is going to rise amongst and
Speaker 5: comes to power at the midpoint of the last seven years,
Speaker 5: and is the same little horn that's talked about with
Speaker 5: the Beast Empires with the same numbers of seven throughout history,
Speaker 5: just a different allegorical information in Daniel eight that rises
Speaker 5: as a single horn as well in the end time.
Speaker 5: And obviously the same as the metallic empires of Daniel two,
Speaker 5: which is a giant statue right and diluted blood lines
Speaker 5: coming down. So we have an option of deluted bloodlines
Speaker 5: running of the royals that are going to be having
Speaker 5: the ten Kings, or we're going to see new Nephelum
Speaker 5: created or return if they were saved somehow, someway in
Speaker 5: the earth, off the earth in stasis, whatever the method,
Speaker 5: and or we're going to see as you were talking about,
Speaker 5: oktarians created for the demonic disembodied spirits because they need
Speaker 5: a soul and a body to interact with the physical world.
Speaker 5: If people aren't familiar with where Okterian comes from, that's
Speaker 5: the habitation the angels left in heaven, and that means,
Speaker 5: as the oicitarian is the Greek word, they're a dwelling
Speaker 5: place for our spirit. So that's how angels when they
Speaker 5: take a physical form in the physical world, and we
Speaker 5: know they can because Hebrews thirteen tells us to be
Speaker 5: kind to strangers less lest we run across an angel unawares.
Speaker 5: We have angels taking physical bodies that aren't recognized at
Speaker 5: first by Abraham as angels, but the same ones when
Speaker 5: they go to Sodom and Gomorrah are recognized an angel,
Speaker 5: so they can decide whether or not to be recognized
Speaker 5: or not. So I have that ability to create that
Speaker 5: Oiktarian for their spirit being to merge with the soul.
Speaker 5: So you have three components, the spirit that comes from heaven,
Speaker 5: You've got the soul and the body, which are of
Speaker 5: the physical universe. So they're going to need some sort
Speaker 5: of Oiketarian for the disembodied spirits and the ones that
Speaker 5: come up out of the pit prison, the terrible ones
Speaker 5: that are recorded in Ezekiel thirty two in Isaiah twenty five,
Speaker 5: that are going to need Oiktarians, and may even be
Speaker 5: those Kamara type of writers on those Kima type of
Speaker 5: war animals that are an extension of the third woe
Speaker 5: in Revelation nine. So all of that is coming together,
Speaker 5: and that this empire is somehow going to come together,
Speaker 5: likely because of the false prophets of Babylon and their
Speaker 5: false prophecies and contrived catastrophes, and they're going to strive
Speaker 5: to put those ten empires around the world together, but
Speaker 5: struggle and not get it done. I think it's going
Speaker 5: to be Babylon that's going to be the key, because
Speaker 5: Babylon rides the beast of empires. This is the daughter
Speaker 5: of Babel, as the religions, and this is the mother
Speaker 5: that is coming back the old religion, the original religion
Speaker 5: is coming back of Babel and the antediluvian religion that
Speaker 5: Nimrod inherits and receives from Hermes according to the Polytheis.
Speaker 5: So all of this is going to be coming together
Speaker 5: in this end time empire of ten kings, and they're
Speaker 5: going to be subservient til they overthrow Babylon, who's going
Speaker 5: to control the banking. So expect the Jesuits to get
Speaker 5: out of control and go rogue again along with the
Speaker 5: rise of the universal religion. Now, how does that link
Speaker 5: back into with Black Rock that you're talking about, For
Speaker 5: where do they fit in into the hierarchy? So they
Speaker 5: are pseudo, so they are maybe low level bloodlines or
Speaker 5: trying to intermarry and be sponsored and through generations to
Speaker 5: increase their bloodlines. So the example of that is going
Speaker 5: to be what the Rothschilds do.
Speaker 4: With the pseudo blue bloods for.
Speaker 5: North America, like the Rockefellers, like the Warburgs, like the Carnegie,
Speaker 5: all of the DuPonts. They will fund all of those
Speaker 5: families obviously because they have a genealogy that is quite deluded.
Speaker 5: Because they always keep this in house. They're going to
Speaker 5: fund them to become the pseudo blue bloods of North America,
Speaker 5: and over the generations they continue to intermarry, and the
Speaker 5: Rockefellers and the Morgans and all of them are still
Speaker 5: extremely loyal to the Rothschilds. And the Rothschilds are we're
Speaker 5: low level and Jewish until they changed their name to
Speaker 5: a rothschild in seventeen ninety with a London bank opening,
Speaker 5: So expect something like that in terms of how they
Speaker 5: fit in. So the Rothschilds aren't a center trunk order
Speaker 5: and they're not part of any of those main families
Speaker 5: that I talked about. So they're going to be Rosicrucian
Speaker 5: or Committee of three hundred best case scenario through years
Speaker 5: of intermarriage.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 5: When we look at the banking side, that's the Rothschilds.
Speaker 5: But we also have another example where we have the
Speaker 5: B twenty and the G twenty and they're kind of merging,
Speaker 5: and that Dabbles Crew they also connect into the Committee
Speaker 5: of three hundred, and so I think that's a separate
Speaker 5: branch organization could be part of the Rothchilds, but it
Speaker 5: just seems to be a little bit more distinct because
Speaker 5: it has more of a wider range and not specifically banking.
Speaker 5: Hedge funding can be related to banking, but it's technically
Speaker 5: not banking, right, So I think that's part of its
Speaker 5: own branch and hierarchy that goes on. And there may
Speaker 5: be one branch organization I haven't struggled. I haven't found
Speaker 5: that would connect them into the Thalambic tree, but I
Speaker 5: think that's how it would fit in.
Speaker 4: And all of the IMF, all.
Speaker 5: Of the world Trade organizations, anything to do with banking
Speaker 5: or commerce intersects into the Committee of three Hundred Families,
Speaker 5: and that's where all of that is generated from. And
Speaker 5: so it's important to sort of say, okay, if we're
Speaker 5: trying to figure things out on the puzzles, that's how
Speaker 5: I would sort of do the reasoning of it. But again,
Speaker 5: they would be pseudos. Now, when we look at Babylon
Speaker 5: in the End Time, it controls all of this until
Speaker 5: the midpoint of the last seven years. And when we
Speaker 5: look at the great.
Speaker 4: And mighty Men of the End Time.
Speaker 5: And the Kings of the End Times, they're used interchangeably
Speaker 5: in Revelation six and in Revelation nineteen, in Revelation eighteen,
Speaker 5: and they go back to a couple of words megas
Speaker 5: and megastranis, which goes back to Indo Aryan meg for
Speaker 5: a giant ruler essentially, and mega and megastranis and grandees
Speaker 5: are sort of etymological extensions out of those Greek words
Speaker 5: that all describes large, extraordinary, old and is connected in
Speaker 5: with genealogical descendants. So like for example, grandees would be
Speaker 5: the root word that goes back to megas and megastranis
Speaker 5: for grandfather, and then you have great and great would
Speaker 5: be going back to vegas and megastranies as well, And.
Speaker 4: So those words populate our language.
Speaker 5: So when we look at these mighty men that are
Speaker 5: talked about in the end time, these are royales, kings
Speaker 5: of God, Kings of God is royal al. You can
Speaker 5: look at that as a transliteration of e l an
Speaker 5: angel or a god as in Bayel meaning lord God
Speaker 5: in one of its translations, or as you take L
Speaker 5: to Loheim, the feminine loa and words associated with that,
Speaker 5: which would be alah a l a h a feminine
Speaker 5: application of the of the same word. Typically the feminine
Speaker 5: ones is the application of wisdom, the application of power.
Speaker 5: So if you had like giberim and the male female
Speaker 5: is gibberrah. It's not it can mean a female nephelin,
Speaker 5: but it's usually the application of the word might as
Speaker 5: it's used in the in the Old Testament. So when
Speaker 5: we look at these royales, as you take that back
Speaker 5: to old French, it's raw or king and and l
Speaker 5: which is rooted as a group of words that go
Speaker 5: back to regal and regalis in Latin, back to reg
Speaker 5: for ruler again in Indo area, and these and it
Speaker 5: means the kings of God.
Speaker 3: So Gary, let me ask you this. Then, those ten
Speaker 3: kings you talked yep, I've talked about them. You talked
Speaker 3: about them. Do you think that these are human king?
Speaker 3: Do you think they are supernatural? Do you think they're angels?
Speaker 3: Because I have I've gone back and forth. Right now
Speaker 3: I'm landing on them being just because of the way
Speaker 3: they're mentioned in in you know, Daniel seven as well
Speaker 3: as in Revelation. I'm thinking that they're supernatural, do you
Speaker 3: and and that, and they're the ones who are going
Speaker 3: to give their kingdom up to the beast. What do
Speaker 3: you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was I was gonna ask the are they are
Speaker 1: they the if they are the human ones. Are they
Speaker 1: the families that you're talking about, Are they the hidden
Speaker 1: families that haven't came out?
Speaker 2: Maybe they come out.
Speaker 5: Then it's you could you could look at it in
Speaker 5: a couple of different ways in that, and it's kind
Speaker 5: of a yes, yes, and yes sort of thing to
Speaker 5: the three questions that we're thrown out there. So let's
Speaker 5: look at the Beast Empires. These are bloodlines of the
Speaker 5: rough eyeing post Alluvian giants, and they are more pure
Speaker 5: in their bloodlines with gold in Daniel two with the
Speaker 5: metallic and then it goes to silver and then goes
Speaker 5: to bronze with Alexander, and then it goes to iron,
Speaker 5: so you can see a degradation of the metal, and
Speaker 5: that's usually could be understood as a dilution of the
Speaker 5: bloodlines and intermarriage with humans so that they don't go extinct.
Speaker 5: And so then they're going to mix their blood Daniel
Speaker 5: two forty three. They're going to mix with their seed
Speaker 5: with humans in Daniel two forty three.
Speaker 4: So you could.
Speaker 5: Understand that as being bloodline descendants of the empires that
Speaker 5: are going to mix their.
Speaker 4: Seed with some of the humans.
Speaker 5: So you could have maybe five strong men, let's say
Speaker 5: in five royals that might be there, and they're going
Speaker 5: to intermarry and an intermix, but it's and it's the
Speaker 5: mixing of that seed, which is there's two different species
Speaker 5: here right now. When you take that back to Hebrew,
Speaker 5: you could infer it's a demonic possession as well. But
Speaker 5: it's the mixing of the seed. But then if they
Speaker 5: created an eikaterion for themselves or they possessed what.
Speaker 4: These kings, you could see both of that sort of happening.
Speaker 5: Now when you roll that forward to say, well, what
Speaker 5: else do we have for royal bloodlines of the gentiles
Speaker 5: that we could look to in other passages to mix
Speaker 5: some of the things that I've been talking about.
Speaker 4: I think the best one.
Speaker 5: Is is Psalms twenty one eight through ten, and in
Speaker 5: there it's an end time reference to a prophecy in
Speaker 5: the time of God's anger and wrath and fire, is
Speaker 5: that he is going to destroy the fruit and their
Speaker 5: fruit and the seed of that fruit from the seat
Speaker 5: of human kind in the time of the wrath. That's
Speaker 5: talking about two different seed lines that are separated. That
Speaker 5: seems to be reflective in Daniel two forty three, and
Speaker 5: these are the terrible ones it seems that are going
Speaker 5: to be killed on a mountain in the end time
Speaker 5: in Isaiah twenty five, and they're called a branch of
Speaker 5: the terrible Ones. And then in Ezekiel thirty two, where
Speaker 5: you have other references to the terrible ones, Hebrew eerte
Speaker 5: the routeem to get to ones, as the translators have
Speaker 5: translated as a reteam and has all these different descriptions
Speaker 5: on them in terms of you know, strong mighty, but
Speaker 5: also as a childless and fertility issue as part of
Speaker 5: that definition, which is why they need to intermarry. And
Speaker 5: these are the ones that are slain while they were
Speaker 5: on earth and are in the sides of the pit
Speaker 5: prison along with the Mighty the l or the angels
Speaker 5: that are in the pit prison as well, and both
Speaker 5: the l or the Aloheim small case, and these terrible
Speaker 5: ones are speaking to another Rafaeme pharaoh from the pit
Speaker 5: prison in this incredible dual prophecy. And these are the
Speaker 5: ones who did horrible things to humankind, and they're the
Speaker 5: ones that are going to be killed in Isaiah twenty
Speaker 5: five the branch of these terrible ones and so and
Speaker 5: you'll see that all LinkedIn book two for you when
Speaker 5: you get to reading it, so I think, yeah, there's
Speaker 5: these bloodlines that we need to deal with because they're
Speaker 5: the visible ones ruling for the invisible ones today. But
Speaker 5: we can't take off the table that there might not
Speaker 5: be johncience somehow, some way, because it's going to be
Speaker 5: like the days of Noah, both before and after the flood.
Speaker 5: And Ecclesiastics one I think is what you were referencing before,
Speaker 5: there's nothing new under the sun.
Speaker 4: What was will be a gain.
Speaker 5: And as you move on in that passage in seventeen
Speaker 5: and eighteen, I think it says the understanding of this
Speaker 5: will only bring grief and sorrow. So yes, I think
Speaker 5: it could be a mix of it all or it
Speaker 5: could be one. But there is this seed line that
Speaker 5: is being looked after, and it's called the Serpent's root
Speaker 5: from the serpent seed in Genesis three point fifteen. This
Speaker 5: is in Isaiah fourteen twenty five to twenty nine, and
Speaker 5: it's talking about Sarapham, angels and everything else that's involved
Speaker 5: there as well, along with the Assyrian that's being destroyed
Speaker 5: in the end time. So as you start to link
Speaker 5: in these meanings, it starts to make sense for people
Speaker 5: who may not be aware is used a number of
Speaker 5: times in the Old Testament as an allegory for the
Speaker 5: end time at di Christ, and Asher is one of
Speaker 5: the terrible ones in Ezekiel thirty two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I go ahead, Josh, no ed, go ahead,
Speaker 2: and man.
Speaker 3: Well so because this is great, because I think people
Speaker 3: are not ready for the level of supernatural insanity that's
Speaker 3: going to be going on in the very end toumes
Speaker 3: in that seven year period that Christians referred to.
Speaker 4: As as they are not ready for it.
Speaker 3: No, not at all, because they're going to be. There's
Speaker 3: going to be, as you said, Gary, as was in
Speaker 3: the days of Noah. And it always tickles me when
Speaker 3: people say, oh, that just means business as usual. They're
Speaker 3: marrying and giving in marriage. No, no, no, the time
Speaker 3: right before Jesus returns isn't going to be anything but normal.
Speaker 3: If you get you know, the bulls of wrath, the
Speaker 3: trumpets alf this is not going to business as usual.
Speaker 3: To a first century Jewish person, person who to whom
Speaker 3: Jesus was speaking, the days of Noah means nephilim, it
Speaker 3: means all these insane things going on. My take on,
Speaker 3: and it's a little after Wall may not agree with it.
Speaker 3: I'm totally fine with that. I could be completely wrong.
Speaker 3: But when I look at Genesis six, the the opening
Speaker 3: of those of those first six seals, the four Horsemen,
Speaker 3: and then the martyrs, and then the cosmic disturbances, many
Speaker 3: many commentators believe that this is either an overview of
Speaker 3: that entire period or it is the beginning of God's judgment.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's that at all. I think that
Speaker 3: those those seals, especially the Horsemen, are actually a false
Speaker 3: apocalypse created by Satan. Here's why I think that. I
Speaker 3: go back to the all of It discourse for that
Speaker 3: what when when the disciples came in as Jesus, you know,
Speaker 3: those two questions, One would these things be the destruction
Speaker 3: of the temple? And what will be the signs of
Speaker 3: your of your coming in the end of the age.
Speaker 3: The first thing Jesus says is don't be deceived. So
Speaker 3: everything here's a deception. If there's going to be false christs,
Speaker 3: there are going to be wars and rumors of wars, earthquakes, pestilence,
Speaker 3: and so forth and so on. But these things are
Speaker 3: not the end. I think there are a deception of
Speaker 3: the end. I think that these are because again, if
Speaker 3: we're talking about the Antichrist being a false Messiah, well,
Speaker 3: false Messia, you gotta have a false apocalypse in order
Speaker 3: to usher in your false Messiah, your false second coming.
Speaker 3: And that's what I think is going on there, and
Speaker 3: that that's my opinion. I give my full reasons in
Speaker 3: my in my videos there. But my two proof points
Speaker 3: is number one, the cry of the martyrs at the
Speaker 3: fifth when the fifth seals opened, they say, how long,
Speaker 3: oh Lord, until you avenge us. Well, if this was
Speaker 3: from God, why would they be saying that. Why would
Speaker 3: they be asking how long? And why would God tell
Speaker 3: him to wait? Wouldn't he would either say, oh, look, guys,
Speaker 3: I'm doing it just you know, look, I'm judging everything now.
Speaker 3: But he doesn't. He says wait. And then of course
Speaker 3: you have at the open of the sixth seal. And
Speaker 3: I'm going to get to my point why I brought
Speaker 3: it up in a sec the the all the mighty
Speaker 3: men which Gary talking about, they hide in the mountains
Speaker 3: in order to say, they say, hide us from what
Speaker 3: the wrath of the lamb. This is the only place
Speaker 3: in the Bible where the terms wrath is applied to
Speaker 3: the lamb and it's and who's this in It's said
Speaker 3: by evil men. I think that this is the deception,
Speaker 3: is that all these things that are being brought the Antichrist,
Speaker 3: the First Horseman, the the Second Horsemen, which people call war,
Speaker 3: but it's not. It doesn't say war, says men will
Speaker 3: kill one another. That word kills. The word Greek words
Speaker 3: spotso spotso means a sacrifice. That's what that's slaughter for
Speaker 3: the sake of a sacrifice. I think it's a blood sacrifice,
Speaker 3: which a massive blood sacrifice, which is going to unleash
Speaker 3: demonic power into the world because you know, all these
Speaker 3: satanic rituals always have something to do with blood or
Speaker 3: sex because that's where life is. Life is in the blood,
Speaker 3: like it's obviously in sex because that's where we approcreate.
Speaker 3: And I think that life energy is what causes bends
Speaker 3: the veil between our two realms and causes spiritual energy
Speaker 3: to come in. And of course the Black Horseman. That's
Speaker 3: that's hyperinflation that you know you have to work an
Speaker 3: entire day for a loaf of or not, and a
Speaker 3: loaf of bread for a piece of bread a role. Basically,
Speaker 3: that's hyperinflation, which we know the bankers are capable of
Speaker 3: doing that at any point, So that's what But my
Speaker 3: point is when you get to the sixth seal, what happens.
Speaker 3: You have the stars of Heaven being flung down to Earth.
Speaker 3: Of course, these are not literal stars. Little stars are gigantic,
Speaker 3: and even if you're a flat Earth, you have to
Speaker 3: admit that they're If you thors fell to Heaven to Earth,
Speaker 3: you would that would that would be devastating. No, these
Speaker 3: are the These are angels, the fallen angels being cast
Speaker 3: down to Earth. Why because all the players need to
Speaker 3: be on the board for God to judge, to pour
Speaker 3: out his wrath. I think he needs everyone. They're going
Speaker 3: to be in their okitarion on Earth, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: so that they can be judged. So when they appear
Speaker 3: on Earth, what are they going to say to people
Speaker 3: when they when they are stuck here? I think they're
Speaker 3: going to say that they are either some type of
Speaker 3: alien UFO thing, or they're sended masters, or these are
Speaker 3: the We are the gods back, We are the old
Speaker 3: ones who I who have come back at this critical
Speaker 3: time to guide you, to guide mankind into the future.
Speaker 3: And so that's why I asked Gary did you think
Speaker 3: that these kings might be something supernatural? There's a possibility
Speaker 3: that maybe some of these these fallen angels present themselves
Speaker 3: as kings. But I think you're you're, you're your supposition
Speaker 3: that they are some of the mighty ones, the human
Speaker 3: nephelim hybrids. I'm all, I'm I'm open to all of it,
Speaker 3: but that's what you know. But that that's my opinion
Speaker 3: on Genesis. A seasonly Genesis is on Revelation six, and
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be some really strange, strange times
Speaker 3: and there's gonna be no atheist left in the world
Speaker 3: at this point because it's gonna be so much meatrial
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 4: We cannot imagine what's coming.
Speaker 5: We can only try and get into the shoes of
Speaker 5: the Antediluvians to sort of understand that. And you know,
Speaker 5: when you look at the angels coming back, the stars
Speaker 5: could be angels and they may be coming back and
Speaker 5: they don't care.
Speaker 4: The time is short.
Speaker 5: They're going to take their Okterians again because they have
Speaker 5: been walking amongst us since the time of the early
Speaker 5: offspring gods. After the flood, then they kind of disappear,
Speaker 5: doesn't mean they're not ruling from the Council of Gods,
Speaker 5: but they're just not in bodies walking amongst us, and
Speaker 5: they will walk amongst us.
Speaker 4: To be like the days of Noah, both before and
Speaker 4: after the flood.
Speaker 5: So that is the Avatara Avatar effect, Avatar being the
Speaker 5: angelic being, the Avatara being the receiving that shares the
Speaker 5: soul and the body with the individual, just as Vishnu
Speaker 5: incarnated into.
Speaker 4: Buddha to give him the wisdom.
Speaker 5: And incarnated I think sixteen to twenty times, and Matreya
Speaker 5: is thought to be either an incarnation or Vishnu in
Speaker 5: that sort of sense that is coming back as an
Speaker 5: incarnation in the end time. And even Shiva incarnates several times,
Speaker 5: not as many as Vishnu. I think Shieva is only
Speaker 5: a dozen times, as it's recorded in the Fatus. But
Speaker 5: we know this is a possibility because in the time
Speaker 5: of Jesus you have Satan entering into Judas to give
Speaker 5: them the courage to go through with betraying Jesus. So
Speaker 5: we know Satan has the ability to do that, and
Speaker 5: we don't know how many ranks and orders have the
Speaker 5: ability to do that, but certainly demons do something similar,
Speaker 5: but lower level is demonic possession, and typically it doesn't
Speaker 5: turn out well. And I know some of the occultists
Speaker 5: believe they have enough knowledge and they know names and
Speaker 5: rituals and words they can control that demon spirit when
Speaker 5: they bring them in for additional power. But I wouldn't
Speaker 5: be banking on that. I wouldn't advise that to even
Speaker 5: them to do that, so to speak. So, yeah, we
Speaker 5: need to be aware that there's possibilities here that we
Speaker 5: have to make ourselves prepared for because we have no
Speaker 5: idea how awful this is going to be. And the
Speaker 5: Days of Noah can be understood as a generation, just
Speaker 5: as it's the fig Tree generation.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 5: In book two, what I do in chapter one, I
Speaker 5: start off with the days of Noah. Not that I
Speaker 5: don't talk about it in book one, but I wanted
Speaker 5: to do it in a way it takes the whole
Speaker 5: argument off the table for people that I show how
Speaker 5: Days of Noah is used in passages that are reflecting
Speaker 5: end time destructions that's going to be like the destruction
Speaker 5: that was in the time of Noah, and that this
Speaker 5: was also using the same terminology as when those angels
Speaker 5: made the sins to create the giants so I put
Speaker 5: those all together in chapter one because I just was
Speaker 5: wanted to put something together for Christians because they get
Speaker 5: knocked off on that and understand, the violence is caused
Speaker 5: by the war Gene and the giants I like to
Speaker 5: say they have I mean, they were the ones that
Speaker 5: were given according to the Book of Enoch, not scripture,
Speaker 5: but we see that as giving us information on this violence.
Speaker 4: They're the ones who caused the.
Speaker 5: Wars, right, right, and wars and rumors are yeah, are
Speaker 5: one of the sorrows, right, and so they're going to
Speaker 5: get stronger as the fig Tree generation goes forward, and
Speaker 5: that they were given the technology of war and the
Speaker 5: crafts of war, the strategies of war by Isaza is
Speaker 5: the destroyer god and the scapegoat for all of the
Speaker 5: sins of the world in the anti Luvian world, and
Speaker 5: is likely the title of the Baden and Apollon as
Speaker 5: he comes you know, out as out of the prison
Speaker 5: that he says he's imprisoned into in the Book of Enoch,
Speaker 5: certainly a good candidate for it because he's called the
Speaker 5: leader of the of the rebellious ones in that book.
Speaker 3: So, and it's interesting how you know when the when
Speaker 3: those the demons are demonic insties are released from the
Speaker 3: They released for five months, same amount of times at
Speaker 3: the flood.
Speaker 4: Well, they'll be here for longer than that. But maybe I'll.
Speaker 5: Get so when we look at now and you're talking
Speaker 5: about the opening of the seals, and you know, this
Speaker 5: is the same spirit beings that come from the throne
Speaker 5: of God in uh Zachariah six. But the horses on
Speaker 5: the chariots and these are spirits of God from the throne,
Speaker 5: just as these four writers come from. They're not demonic spirits,
Speaker 5: as Polytheis have taken that and tried to scare us with.
Speaker 5: These are the four winds of prophecy. These are the
Speaker 5: same four winds that blow up the beast kingdoms. That
Speaker 5: includes the.
Speaker 4: End Time Empire.
Speaker 5: And so this is making sure that that empire is
Speaker 5: in place for the last seven years I think, or
Speaker 5: in at least around that time zone, as to not
Speaker 5: get too legalistic on it, and that when we look
Speaker 5: at what's going on in the seal openings, I would
Speaker 5: look at that first writer not necessarily being an anti
Speaker 5: Christ type figure, but it's a writer that has a
Speaker 5: boa and a crown, and crown is like Stefanos is
Speaker 5: the Greek word there, and it generally is understood as
Speaker 5: a horn crown of Jesus would wear, as we understand
Speaker 5: it from a Christian perspective and its definition, but also
Speaker 5: understanding Polytheism, as in a wreath made from the laurel tree,
Speaker 5: which is the root word for Lorraine in the Lorraine
Speaker 5: region of the Anjou who say they have the King
Speaker 5: of Jerusalem title, and it was the crown that the
Speaker 5: Greek gods wore and the crown that they put on
Speaker 5: the heads of the Olympian giants as they can compete
Speaker 5: it and won. And then the word bo isn't like
Speaker 5: a weapon bow. It means a simple fabric. Toxin is
Speaker 5: the word there, and I think it's referring to the
Speaker 5: Greek robes of the gods and the nobles, and the
Speaker 5: same white robes that the Roman empire. So doesn't mean
Speaker 5: the world isn't going to be conquered, because it is
Speaker 5: going to be conquered, but not quite the way that
Speaker 5: people are thinking about it. And that as we move
Speaker 5: forward with the birth paygs that also included earthquakes, also
Speaker 5: included famine and pestilence, those are all working together and
Speaker 5: I think as you said, and I say, these are
Speaker 5: contrived catastrophes. God's not judging us, and he doesn't judge
Speaker 5: people that he's going to be saving. He's going to
Speaker 5: save us from the wrath. This is part of the
Speaker 5: tribulation versus the wrath. But this is I think caused
Speaker 5: by those who rule the earth than the fallen angels.
Speaker 5: And so we're going to see wars get stronger as
Speaker 5: these empires start to assemble and the false prophets of
Speaker 5: Babylon come along and make their predictions of these catastrophes
Speaker 5: that they know is going to happen because they're causing them.
Speaker 5: They're part of the organizational structure to do that. And
Speaker 5: you know, if we had a war that got rid
Speaker 5: of ten percent of the population, we would call that armageddon.
Speaker 5: It's apocalyptic. But yet in Revelation six of the earth
Speaker 5: and the people die, and yet that's not armageddon. But
Speaker 5: the royals the top two levels of the classes of
Speaker 5: the world that they populate versus the bottom two, which
Speaker 5: where the humans populate, is they're running into their caves,
Speaker 5: they're underground fortresses, they're underground cities. However, protection because as
Speaker 5: you said, they think it's the day of the Lord,
Speaker 5: but it's not.
Speaker 4: The year of the Lord's.
Speaker 5: Wrath is the last year of the last seven years,
Speaker 5: but it's so bad they think it is, but it's
Speaker 5: not Armageddon, and it's not the time of Antichrist yet.
Speaker 5: But there is another war that comes that's in Revelation nine,
Speaker 5: Duel one and two, in Ezekiel thirty eight and thirty
Speaker 5: nine that I think Antichrist utilizes as his armageddon that
Speaker 5: you were count talking about, because he has to have
Speaker 5: an armageddon war to fulfill his credentials. And that's why
Speaker 5: we see the book of Luke and Daniel talking about Antichrist.
Speaker 5: After this large army has swept away in Daniel eleven
Speaker 5: moves his armies into Jerusalem and that's when he sets
Speaker 5: up the Abomination, and so it just sort of fits
Speaker 5: as you start to put those pieces together, and so, yeah,
Speaker 5: those seals are going to be absolutely horrible, and it's
Speaker 5: going to get worse because the trumpets are thirty three
Speaker 5: percent destruction and more stars falling to the earth. And
Speaker 5: by the time of Revelation nine, in the First Woe,
Speaker 5: all the ones that were imprisoned are out. Now we
Speaker 5: have the worst of them. Then they're all together in
Speaker 5: Revelation twelve for the war in Heaven, which matches up
Speaker 5: with the same time of Antichrist rising in Daniel eight.
Speaker 5: Another one of prophecy that you need to understand for
Speaker 5: the end time. We talked about it with the different
Speaker 5: numbers of same numbers, but different empires being used, with
Speaker 5: the five of the Greek and then the Roman and
Speaker 5: then the Antime empire, so to get you to the seven.
Speaker 5: So when we look at I lost my train of
Speaker 5: thought there, but we look so when we look at
Speaker 5: that happening and Daniel eight ten, that's when anti Christ
Speaker 5: rises into heaven throws down some of the starry host.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, because he's.
Speaker 5: Already received the power from Satan and whomever else that
Speaker 5: is providing him power, perhaps demons, because he controls demons.
Speaker 5: They may be in them and with his mouth he's
Speaker 5: controlling them. However that comes about. So that's the war,
Speaker 5: I think is where you have the two hundred million
Speaker 5: man war.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, and Joel one in.
Speaker 5: Two those matches perfectly, and in book two I put
Speaker 5: the descriptions of those beings in the Joel one in
Speaker 5: two war, which isn't Armageddon which comes in Jewel three later.
Speaker 5: And you put that beside the description of Revelation nine,
Speaker 5: they're identical, okay, and Ezekiel thirty eight and thirty nine
Speaker 5: is in the last Days and before Second Exodus, so
Speaker 5: got to be before the midpoint and is likely the same.
Speaker 5: And of course it makes sense when you get names
Speaker 5: like Dog of Maygog chief Prince of my Check, and
Speaker 5: Gog is a giant both before and after the flood.
Speaker 5: The original Dog is son of Iapetus, apparent god of
Speaker 5: the Greek mythology. That Poseidon actually inherits that Mythos four
Speaker 5: and he varies Plato versus climbing that Poseidon and his
Speaker 5: Mythos creates the ten Atlantean kings. It's Iapetus produces Gog,
Speaker 5: Maygg and Elbion, and then you see those see giants
Speaker 5: named after them on the other side of the flood
Speaker 5: as well, and they're part of the guiges Herculids bloodline
Speaker 5: of the credits credit gens. But I'm starting to get
Speaker 5: into too many rabbit holes here. So anyways, it's the
Speaker 5: the timing fits, and it needs to be a war
Speaker 5: that is large enough that people would say that had
Speaker 5: to be Armageddon.
Speaker 4: Mhm.
Speaker 1: This is like your will, this is like your wheelhouse too,
Speaker 1: had some kind of glad we went to Revelation.
Speaker 3: So yeah, totally, I'd love this. I mean just you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I see a lot of of my thoughts and
Speaker 3: Gary's kind of dovetailing, and because, like you said, Gary,
Speaker 3: we don't know exactly how all these things we're all theorizing.
Speaker 3: And I love it because I think that some we're
Speaker 3: all on the same page. In some places there are
Speaker 3: some little minor differences here, and so be it. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to happen. I'm doing my
Speaker 3: best and you know, to using what I've learned, and
Speaker 3: I'm learning more now. And yeah, so I'm gonna make
Speaker 3: sure that I add some of the the Joel Scriptures
Speaker 3: to my exegesis, because I did not do that in
Speaker 3: my in my original Revelation series. But I may go
Speaker 3: back and update it with some of that some of that,
Speaker 3: some of those versions. One question for you, going to
Speaker 3: the mother of Harlot's the woman who rides the beast,
Speaker 3: do you think that is or is related to uh
Speaker 3: Nimrod's wives uh Samaramus.
Speaker 4: Well, she would be.
Speaker 5: Probably a giant or a hybrid giant versus an offspring god,
Speaker 5: and certainly a divine representative as a mother goddess, just
Speaker 5: as the kings and nimrod Is going to go with
Speaker 5: the polytheist tradition of the other giants. There they were
Speaker 5: understood a spiritous offspring of the gods and were a
Speaker 5: reflection of those celestial mafia godfathers and godmothers. Right, so
Speaker 5: they would be considering themselves that god on earth is.
Speaker 4: How they would understand that.
Speaker 5: So when we look start looking at at the pantheons,
Speaker 5: we need to separate the demigods from the full fledged gods,
Speaker 5: and we need to separate the offspring gods from the
Speaker 5: parent gods, the parent gods. If it really helps for
Speaker 5: people trying to study prehistory if you look at the
Speaker 5: parent god as the ones who reigned before the flood.
Speaker 5: So in the example of Greek, that would be Chronos
Speaker 5: and Gaea, and then you would have Zeus is the
Speaker 5: offspring god and the associated other female gods in the
Speaker 5: Greek pantheon, whether it's Aphrodite or all the other ones
Speaker 5: that go along with it. In the Canaanite pantheon, l
Speaker 5: and Astroth are the two parents, and then bail And
Speaker 5: and Nat are the two that are the mother and
Speaker 5: the father gods of the pantheon after the flood, with
Speaker 5: the rest of the Ballem i Am being the plural
Speaker 5: there that was ruling from the council. You would have
Speaker 5: you know, like Anu is the parent god before the flood,
Speaker 5: and the Sumerian Ankey and on Leo are offspring gods
Speaker 5: that rule after the flood, and in all the pantheons
Speaker 5: around the around the world, they overthrow the parent gods.
Speaker 5: And these are all the same gods in each of
Speaker 5: these pantheons, just different vernacular names.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the religion that Hermes inherits he either gets from
Speaker 5: the giants, but according to the Gnostics and the secret societies,
Speaker 5: they say Hermes our mind as he's recorded in the
Speaker 5: Polychronicon and History of Freemason Freemasonry finds the two pillars
Speaker 5: of enochx and of Cain or Lamech, depinning on which
Speaker 5: source that you're using, and they both say the same thing.
Speaker 5: They had the location of all of the Antediluvian knowledge
Speaker 5: and the religion buried underneath the Great Pyramid in three
Speaker 5: hundred and sixty five thousand and twenty five books and
Speaker 5: stacked in nine vaults that Hermis finds, the pillar finds
Speaker 5: the directions to that takes that knowledge back the Nimrod
Speaker 5: and he implements that Babel religion, and then all the
Speaker 5: religions of the Beast Empires are the daughters of religion
Speaker 5: after that. That is that's why the allegory is important
Speaker 5: to follow as it goes through the prehistory to understand
Speaker 5: why Mother, why daughters.
Speaker 4: We're not getting a daughter religion, We're getting the mother religion.
Speaker 4: And Babylon is rooted in.
Speaker 5: The Hebrew word Babel with its etymology for the Biblical
Speaker 5: side of it. So it's the Babel religion. And that's
Speaker 5: the in Nokian mysticism. When I talk about Enoch, I'm
Speaker 5: talking about Enochs and a chain versus right. Yeah, for
Speaker 5: people out in the audience who may not be where
Speaker 5: there's two enoxy And so this is the one who
Speaker 5: creates the seven sciences.
Speaker 4: That we understand as the seven.
Speaker 5: Liberal arts, that merges with the knowledge from the fallen
Speaker 5: angels or the gods and creates an Ochian mysticism, which
Speaker 5: is the sun bowl worshiping cult of the antiduluvin epoch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that gets us back to, you know, the
Speaker 3: original subject of you know, these these bloodlines, these bankers,
Speaker 3: because it appears that you know, because I was as
Speaker 3: I was reading your your first book, you you know,
Speaker 3: you talk quite a bit about, you know, the these
Speaker 3: seven sciences, and it appears that these are are clearly
Speaker 3: passed on through these various blood lines into I just
Speaker 3: call them the elites of the world. And of course
Speaker 3: it includes these banking families. That's how they learn how to,
Speaker 3: you know, how to do the things that they do
Speaker 3: with with banking, keeping in in you know, keeping control,
Speaker 3: and you know they they hide those from the from
Speaker 3: you know us.
Speaker 5: The reprobates, yeah, exactly, the mundane reprobates.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 5: And for people to understand it, there's a common class
Speaker 5: system that's been throughout our history. It's a four class system,
Speaker 5: and if you go to first nation reserves today, it's
Speaker 5: still in place. Have bloodline, cheese, bloodline priests. They have
Speaker 5: the two lower classes, and so the two lower classes
Speaker 5: that humans populate would be starting with the third class
Speaker 5: would be a small entrepreneurial class, so they would be
Speaker 5: known as blacksmiths, bakers, tailers things essential services that the
Speaker 5: elite didn't want to and elite is an interesting word, elites.
Speaker 4: Anyways, I digress.
Speaker 5: But and then the last class, the fourth class, is
Speaker 5: the slave and workforce and ritual supply class. And so
Speaker 5: the top two are governed by the people who run
Speaker 5: all the governments, or the royals and their larger family.
Speaker 5: So they control all of the olive art companies, right,
Speaker 5: they control all the money. That's why they're called part
Speaker 5: of the great and mighty men in the Book of Revelation.
Speaker 5: And they controlled the priests class all throughout history. They
Speaker 5: control the education class, the elite class, and they only
Speaker 5: educate their larger families throughout history. We only see a
Speaker 5: little bit of getting away from that in the last
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty years or so, and they're quickly
Speaker 5: trying to get rid of the middle class, to get
Speaker 5: that back under control. And so they wrote the history,
Speaker 5: they developed the knowledge, They developed it all for their
Speaker 5: purposes to keep us enslaved and to try and wipe
Speaker 5: us from the face of the earth. And had they
Speaker 5: had their way before the flood, with that technology, we
Speaker 5: would have been destroyed by fire. And at Babel they
Speaker 5: had the opportunity to kill all of the Noah Heights
Speaker 5: in one location, and we get a reflection of that knowledge.
Speaker 5: I was talking about that acting as one language and
Speaker 5: one people. Nothing they intended to do would be held
Speaker 5: back from them. That's how powerful the knowledge was that
Speaker 5: the Bible describes it as. So we need to understand
Speaker 5: that that class system is the way of the world.
Speaker 4: And so if we look.
Speaker 5: At Christianity today, only again in the last fifty to
Speaker 5: one hundred years would you have some of the last
Speaker 5: two classes rising in to become ministers. But before that
Speaker 5: it was all Royales right through to the black nobility
Speaker 5: bloodlines of the of the popes and the Roman Church.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: So I was going to ask about the what's your
Speaker 1: guys's opinion on the anti crisis is going to be, like,
Speaker 1: are these families trying to like produce the Antichrist? These families,
Speaker 1: these hidden families that Gary was talking about, that Ed's
Speaker 1: talking about, or do you think it's what do you
Speaker 1: think about the Antichrist? Is it a physical human that
Speaker 1: is that Satan is going to inhabit.
Speaker 2: Is it like a seed?
Speaker 1: I know Satan's seed mentioned in Genesis three fifteen through seventeen.
Speaker 1: What's your guys' opinion on the Antichrist? Are the hidden
Speaker 1: families that we're talking about, these banking families or these
Speaker 1: black nobility, are they trying to produce maybe, you know,
Speaker 1: intermingling with Satan, the anti Christ.
Speaker 2: What do you think.
Speaker 4: You start?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a strong possibility because when you
Speaker 3: look at that the idea that this is this is
Speaker 3: a seed war. You know the original proclamation that God
Speaker 3: made against the Nahash the serpent in the garden of
Speaker 3: Eden and said, you know, but iminity between your seed
Speaker 3: and her seats. So there are two seats to seed,
Speaker 3: the seed of the woman being Jesus and the seed
Speaker 3: of the serpent, you know, the seed of the Nahash
Speaker 3: I believe being the the other, the the opposite Jesus.
Speaker 3: I do believe that that they are doing this through there.
Speaker 3: There's a reason they have these breeding programs, and I
Speaker 3: think that that I think that optimally, yes, I think
Speaker 3: they would absolutely want him to be that is he
Speaker 3: will he be a human being? I yes, because at
Speaker 3: least initially, because again he's going to be a false Jesus.
Speaker 3: He is going to basically do the Jews. He's going
Speaker 3: to be accepted as a Jewish messiah, or either him
Speaker 3: or the false Prophet. You have to remember there's a duo.
Speaker 3: There's there's two of them, and the false Prophet exercises
Speaker 3: all the same power of the Antichrist, the beast in
Speaker 3: his presence. So at least one of them will be
Speaker 3: considered messianic to the to the Orthodoxy. But I think
Speaker 3: that when and here's my other little wild ed Mabrey theory,
Speaker 3: that when this head wound happens, because and I understand
Speaker 3: your question, is he is he a person or a system?
Speaker 3: Because you know it's he seems to be talked about
Speaker 3: in both ways in the scriptures, and I think there
Speaker 3: there will be a bit of both to him. But
Speaker 3: but I think that when this this mortal head woond,
Speaker 3: I think that that will be to this person. But
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to when he says he
Speaker 3: comes back from it, I think he actually dies, and
Speaker 3: because you know what was Jesus' signature move dying and
Speaker 3: coming back now, but he can't. He won't be resurrected
Speaker 3: because the Satan pawl and angels, they don't have the
Speaker 3: power of life that God does. I think and this
Speaker 3: is my wild theory. I think he's going to be
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be cloned. The reason I
Speaker 3: say that is because after he suffers, his head will
Speaker 3: notice that the false Prophet has has worshiped directed to
Speaker 3: the image of the beast, not the beast. That why
Speaker 3: are they worshiping the beast anymore? Why they're worsking the image? Well,
Speaker 3: the image is a replication. What is a replication of
Speaker 3: a human being? A clone? And I think that's when
Speaker 3: it will be inhabited by a That's when they call
Speaker 3: him the beasts from the bottomless Pit. I believe that
Speaker 3: that entity will be inhabited by something someone from the
Speaker 3: bottomless pit, possibly Nimrod or maybe it's maybe it's Nimrod spirit,
Speaker 3: or he will be inhabited or Satan spirit. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's going to be Satan, because they're talked about
Speaker 3: as three separate entities, the dragon, the false Prophet, and
Speaker 3: the beasts. They seem to be separate. So that's why
Speaker 3: I don't I know there's there's the one of the
Speaker 3: many commentators say that the Antichrist will be inhabited or
Speaker 3: in dwelt by Satan. I just I don't see that
Speaker 3: in the scriptures, I think they'll be separate, and I
Speaker 3: think he will be inhabited by another entity. Some say
Speaker 3: he'll be inhabited by Leviathan, the primordial evil that you
Speaker 3: see in the Book of Job, and that's alluded to
Speaker 3: in Genesis chapter one. So that's my thought. I think
Speaker 3: in the second the second half, when he commits the
Speaker 3: abomination of Deesselation, I think that entity is going to
Speaker 3: be different in form and function the Antichrist of the
Speaker 3: first guests three and a half years, the steven year.
Speaker 4: Period, so a lot of interesting things.
Speaker 5: And again until we actually know that's the thing, so
Speaker 5: we're all kind of speculating based on research and what
Speaker 5: we can sort of piece together.
Speaker 4: If it is like.
Speaker 5: What was before, then we can look at Nebukidnezer, who
Speaker 5: had an image to worship. Obviously, the end time image
Speaker 5: is going to be way more advanced somehow, some way,
Speaker 5: And it was also a giant statue as well.
Speaker 4: In Nebukindnezer.
Speaker 5: It was of the bloodlines, and so Alexander would be
Speaker 5: considered an anti Christ type figure, and that we know
Speaker 5: the anti Christ spirit has been with us ever since
Speaker 5: probably the beginning, certainly the time of Jesus, when and
Speaker 5: the epistoles of John were told about the spirit of
Speaker 5: the anti Christ, one might presume there might have been
Speaker 5: a Antidiluvian or before the flood Antichrist. Maybe it's Atlas,
Speaker 5: maybe it's Orion, maybe it's Pseudras out of the Vedas,
Speaker 5: but there would have been one if it would be
Speaker 5: the same thing kind of repeating. And Nimrod is an
Speaker 5: archetypical anti Christ figure, and he began to be gibbery, mitchelal,
Speaker 5: breaking his vow, sexual rituals, things like that, just as
Speaker 5: that's the same word in Genesis sixty four when humans started,
Speaker 5: you know, began to multiply on the earth. As you
Speaker 5: go into the Nephlum creation, that's the same word chillal.
Speaker 5: There's a breaking of the vow and implication of all
Speaker 5: of these rituals that changes things that would allow for that.
Speaker 5: So it could be a descendant that's part of it.
Speaker 5: It could be perhaps another Nephelim or Rafaem that is
Speaker 5: going to be doing it. Anti crisis is called the
Speaker 5: son of Perdition as well, you know, son of you know,
Speaker 5: the punishment, son of the pit prison. Basically we know
Speaker 5: when he's called the Son of Perdition that in Revelation
Speaker 5: seventeen as the one who once was now is not
Speaker 5: and comes up out of.
Speaker 4: The pit prison.
Speaker 5: So whether it is a fallen angel or a demonic spirit,
Speaker 5: there's a relationship between these, and the understanding of son
Speaker 5: of Perdition also might imply a bloodline. So who would
Speaker 5: be coming up out of the pit prison? Not to
Speaker 5: dismiss that anti Christ receives his power into Thessalonians two
Speaker 5: from Satan, So you could imply maybe that's part, that's
Speaker 5: the Avatar that is also there, or he's just is
Speaker 5: somehow supplying it through other messengers.
Speaker 4: We're not told exactly how that.
Speaker 5: And in Revelation thirteen, who receives his power from the dragon?
Speaker 5: Is that Satan the Seraphim? Or is that the Seraphim Isazel?
Speaker 5: Or is that the beast Empire as the Leviathon's Leviathon
Speaker 5: type creature that comes out of the sea, or is
Speaker 5: it all of those as above? And so as we
Speaker 5: start to dig into this, you know, Nimrod is a possibility.
Speaker 5: I mean, he could have gone, as you know, changing
Speaker 5: somehow that he was sent to the pit prison to
Speaker 5: wait for that and will be the demonic spirit that
Speaker 5: will be part of the Antichrist. Now, the thing is
Speaker 5: is we have to keep in mind that Antichrist doesn't
Speaker 5: stay dead. If he dies, well, he saves the mortal
Speaker 5: head wound, that implies he dies, but it's healed, that
Speaker 5: implies he lives again. Now, is that the same spirit?
Speaker 5: We don't know, but it could be that, or it
Speaker 5: could be multiple spirits, and it could be demonic, it
Speaker 5: could be Antichrist, and it could be an avatar as well.
Speaker 5: That's all because he's going to have great power, and
Speaker 5: he's gonna have the ability to go into heaven and
Speaker 5: bring down trample on some of the starry horrors. This
Speaker 5: is going to be greater power than a giant. I
Speaker 5: mean even in the Enoch Book of Giants, when Gilgamesh,
Speaker 5: the Antidiluvian Gilgamesh versus the post Deluvian Gilgamesh that's recorded
Speaker 5: in the Epic of Gilgamesh, who's created in the Second
Speaker 5: Incursion from the bull goddess nin and Lugo Banda meaning
Speaker 5: giant king of a rook as the father. So he's
Speaker 5: named after the antidiluvian Gilgamesh.
Speaker 4: Would be the inference I.
Speaker 5: Would make, and he is so upset the antidiluvian Gilgamesh
Speaker 5: after learning about the flood that's going to be coming.
Speaker 4: He's actually going.
Speaker 5: To fight with some of the angels, but he doesn't
Speaker 5: throw him down, he doesn't win. So this is extraordinary
Speaker 5: power to a normal nephilim, I think. So, I think
Speaker 5: it's going to be obviously in human form, and I
Speaker 5: think it's going to be that Christ is going to
Speaker 5: be supplanted by demonic spiritual powers that are inhabiting him
Speaker 5: and healing him. I think if you look at that
Speaker 5: word perdition, it's part of the same group of words
Speaker 5: that produces a pollion, okay, and Apollo and a few
Speaker 5: other ones. But it's connected at least from the Greek perspective,
Speaker 5: so again connecting it back to the pit right.
Speaker 4: So, and I.
Speaker 5: Think the the image is like an Old Testament terrifim
Speaker 5: terraffme as some people pronounce it, and it's a talking idol.
Speaker 5: And but I think when we look at these talking
Speaker 5: idols of the Old Testament, that's got to be something.
Speaker 5: And they're also talked about as family idols as well,
Speaker 5: and so it's it doesn't always be is the word
Speaker 5: family idol and idol always doesn't go back to the
Speaker 5: words meaning idol.
Speaker 4: It goes back to terra fame as well.
Speaker 5: You have to take it back to the Hebrew to
Speaker 5: do to distinguishing between them. So if you have this
Speaker 5: inanimate object that can talk, that is like technology, and
Speaker 5: one wonders whether or not the demonic spirit can you
Speaker 5: have an eikutarian created in technology as with the AI
Speaker 5: in the interdimensional quantum mechanics and the coming cryptocurrent and
Speaker 5: see that's going to fit in with that.
Speaker 4: But they have the back door that you can't.
Speaker 5: Decode it from another dimension so that the royals would
Speaker 5: lose all their money.
Speaker 4: That can't happen.
Speaker 5: So they're still working on those types of things. But
Speaker 5: this image is an image of the anti Christ, an
Speaker 5: idol of the anti Christ, but it's separate and it's distinct,
Speaker 5: and it works for him, so he probably controls it,
Speaker 5: is what would be my speculation on that.
Speaker 4: And when we understand Antichrist as.
Speaker 5: A beast, he is a beast spirit, right, He's from
Speaker 5: the beast kings, he's a beast emperor, so he's part
Speaker 5: of the beast. But there's also a beast system and
Speaker 5: a beast religion that he implements after he destroys Babylon,
Speaker 5: and there's the Beast commerce system. So if you look
Speaker 5: at what Babylon has, you need to look at Babylon
Speaker 5: and the Beast in those four compartments. Just as Babylon
Speaker 5: is a city, it is a geopolitical organization. It is
Speaker 5: an economic organization and a trade organization and a religion.
Speaker 5: So we have to look at it that way, and
Speaker 5: it puts its system in place that anti Christ inherits.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, Gary, do you think that going
Speaker 3: to back to Babylon. You know there there's a diversion
Speaker 3: of thought like, well, will Babylon itself, like the physical
Speaker 3: area in Iraq be come back and be this great
Speaker 3: city or or is it just spiritual Babylon wherever the
Speaker 3: headquarters might be, be it Rome, London, New York, or
Speaker 3: will it be you know, the actual Babylon on the
Speaker 3: on those shorts of beef Rate's.
Speaker 5: Well in in Zachariah five, you have the woman in
Speaker 5: the basket taken and put in Sheenar or Babylon. Now
Speaker 5: that I would say would be a bit allegorical by
Speaker 5: the geography. I won't totally rule out Babylon in the
Speaker 5: old Babylon Empire, but it doesn't seem as likely to
Speaker 5: me based on the other details. And so Babylon in
Speaker 5: the New Testament and in Revelation is also defined as
Speaker 5: an allegory for the city of Rome. And in Revelation seventeen,
Speaker 5: the woman is going to rest on seven hills, and
Speaker 5: it's also seven kings, but it's separate, and it's worded
Speaker 5: that the seven is representing both, and they're two different
Speaker 5: allegories to be understood, and that the seven hills of
Speaker 5: Romulus and Remus are the ancient seven hills of Rome
Speaker 5: and understood by John as Babylon, and Peter even said
Speaker 5: he was writing from Rome Babylon, and the scenes understood
Speaker 5: Rome as Babylon and Babylon being the allegory because if
Speaker 5: you said anything against they killed you, so you would
Speaker 5: speak in those types of pressure codes, as they would
Speaker 5: call them. And so I think you have to look
Speaker 5: for seven ancient hills. And Vaticanis Hill is not part
Speaker 5: of the seven, but it's a branch hill. It's an
Speaker 5: Etruscan hill from an Etruscan settlement the Vatican was built on,
Speaker 5: and it's a branch of Palatine Hill. Palatine Hill is
Speaker 5: home of the Sibiling prophecies, sibiling prophets, and the same
Speaker 5: sibiling and Friggian religion that populated the Indo Aryan, Scythian,
Speaker 5: Etruscan religions, and is definitely the old religion with the
Speaker 5: mother goddess coming back, which is important because it's actually
Speaker 5: considered a touch higher than the male patriarch god in
Speaker 5: gnosticism and the secret societies. And so I think that
Speaker 5: might be the goddess that perhaps and one aspect of
Speaker 5: the understanding that anti Crite might worship in private, because
Speaker 5: it's the god of fortresses.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: But it's not l or Alohem there for God, it's Eloah.
Speaker 5: It is the female helm.
Speaker 4: Oh wow. Cool.
Speaker 5: Now that could be just the application of the power
Speaker 5: of fortresses, so it's not totally clear. And then fortresses miles.
Speaker 5: The Hebrew word goes back to isaz and as as
Speaker 5: being mighty and strong, and of course those are the
Speaker 5: root words for mighty as in Azazel being you know,
Speaker 5: the mighty god, right or the mighty goat god. As
Speaker 5: you might take all of the different aspects of defining
Speaker 5: that that you could link that back to Azazel, And
Speaker 5: why would he be honoring the god of fortresses, Because
Speaker 5: just as Isazel gave all the power of war before
Speaker 5: the flood to whatever Antichrist figure was there, he might
Speaker 5: be the one from the pit prison that is going to.
Speaker 4: Do that for Antichrist. So you could look at that
Speaker 4: both ways.
Speaker 5: So again I like to be I don't know which
Speaker 5: is it's going to be, but maybe it's both the
Speaker 5: way it's done. Uh, So there's a connection there, so,
Speaker 5: but I do think it's it's it's we have to
Speaker 5: recognize the pit application. We have to recognize the extended power.
Speaker 5: We have to recognize it's a person that dies with
Speaker 5: the mortal headwound and has brought back to life somehow.
Speaker 5: And we also have to recognize that it rises amongst
Speaker 5: the ten Kings as being from those bloodlines of the giants.
Speaker 5: So it's going to be nuanced, uh And it's going
Speaker 5: to be probably things we haven't even thought out.
Speaker 4: But when God, when we're being.
Speaker 5: Told about things on a grand scale of the greater meanings,
Speaker 5: as we link all of the passages together, we have
Speaker 5: to be disciplined not to ignore the inconvenient passages and
Speaker 5: try and weave all of the meanings in and still
Speaker 5: yet be prepared to be surprised.
Speaker 3: It was like great advice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're we're coming up on two hours, So
Speaker 1: if you guys want to like try to interweave and
Speaker 1: wrap up whatever you know we talked about. I think
Speaker 1: that we went a lot of different places, and I
Speaker 1: think it was amazing amount of knowledge and I'm glad
Speaker 1: we got into revelation and end times because the audience
Speaker 1: on the Sunday Service side that I do there are
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Are are conspiracy theorists that that
Speaker 1: need to know this type of information to be prepared,
Speaker 1: you know, So I think there I mean there's a
Speaker 1: lot of Christians there too, but I think there's some
Speaker 1: that are not Christian and they don't know what's coming.
Speaker 1: So I think this is vastly important and I think
Speaker 1: it's amazing. I'm so happy that you guys got into
Speaker 1: this type of talk.
Speaker 2: It went from a conspiracy.
Speaker 1: To Christianity, which I love and that's what I really
Speaker 1: uh is my passion, And I love how you guys
Speaker 1: interweaved all of it together. So if you guys have
Speaker 1: some way to like end it and kind of however,
Speaker 1: you guys want to maybe you know, any last words
Speaker 1: advice for for the audience, whatever you'd like to do.
Speaker 1: I'll start with you ed and then we'll go with there.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we give Gary the last word. So I
Speaker 3: guess I'm just taking it into the the biggest picture
Speaker 3: since we are you talk. It's the biggest conspiracy ever.
Speaker 3: I think it began with the Antediluvian giants when these
Speaker 3: fallen angels came down and they married women. They didn't
Speaker 3: just have sex with them. It did in say they fortnicate.
Speaker 3: It's that they married because they entered into some type
Speaker 3: of covenant with them and and and in that covenant,
Speaker 3: in a marriage covenant in ancient times, those gifts exchange exchange.
Speaker 3: I think the gifts that gave my opinion, the gifts
Speaker 3: are that knowledge that hidden that the knowledge. And I
Speaker 3: think that that knowledge is where we got our first
Speaker 3: secret societies. When you get into the conspiracy world, that
Speaker 3: was the first time that they that we had that.
Speaker 3: And that knowledge has been passed on obviously throughout the
Speaker 3: centuries and millennia, and it's been guarded by these by
Speaker 3: the bloodlines and you know, by these priests, these mystics
Speaker 3: have kept it to themselves and they've used it to
Speaker 3: amass great power. And I just say my big picture
Speaker 3: ideas what I talked about early on, is that their
Speaker 3: their goal is to replace humanity with with with the
Speaker 3: fallen angels going to replace humanity with their offspring, where
Speaker 3: God's off spring, their offspring of the Nephilim. And I
Speaker 3: think ultimately their goal is to replace us with them.
Speaker 3: And we've been going through their machinations for you know,
Speaker 3: since since the beginning of time, and it's going to
Speaker 3: wrap up in the events we see in the Book
Speaker 3: of Revelation, when you know there's going to be just
Speaker 3: massive death, destruction, and the first part of it, I
Speaker 3: think is going to be orchestrated by the bad guys
Speaker 3: within at the at the end, there will be the
Speaker 3: you know, the day of the Lord when when God says, no,
Speaker 3: I'm pouring out my wrath, not mint. It's not intended
Speaker 3: for human beings. He God's rather is intended for spiritual evil.
Speaker 3: But if you align yourself with spiritual evil, then you're
Speaker 3: going to find yourself in the crosswire, which is why
Speaker 3: it is important. My last word is to make sure
Speaker 3: you're on the right side.
Speaker 4: Amen.
Speaker 5: Yes, And a choice you have to make and no
Speaker 5: choice is still a choice. So learn as much as
Speaker 5: you can and make your choice. So when I look
Speaker 5: at trying to piece the sort of all together in
Speaker 5: terms of where we are and where we're going, is
Speaker 5: as we you know, we've talked about the bloodlines, and
Speaker 5: we talk about this intersection that's coming the end time,
Speaker 5: and we see that being forged today through the Committee
Speaker 5: of three hundred in charge of all of these economic
Speaker 5: and trade organizations and banks, and the Devil's Crew and
Speaker 5: the Tavilost Crew in particularly is trying to make sure AI, cryptocurrency,
Speaker 5: quantum computing is all intermeshed for the system that they're
Speaker 5: looking to bring in, including the High Mind with that
Speaker 5: neuro interlink, and last January they were talking about being
Speaker 5: able to communicate with the telepathic sort of capability or
Speaker 5: ali like a telepathic like the old High Mind within
Speaker 5: ten years. And so we see them forming this global
Speaker 5: government with these ten empires that the Club of Rome divided.
Speaker 5: The UN has a very similar separation into the world,
Speaker 5: and we see this oligarchic class that is rising throughout
Speaker 5: the world where the super wealthy, low level money people
Speaker 5: are rising and there's a war against the middle class
Speaker 5: at the same time to get rid of a lot
Speaker 5: of the Western middle class. Now, as we sort of
Speaker 5: put that into our train of thought, they are politically
Speaker 5: moving with social masonry, just as they use that as
Speaker 5: a virus against some of the main bloodlines of the
Speaker 5: Western Europeans. To take down would have been communism, a
Speaker 5: social masonry that took down the Putan and Romanov bloodline.
Speaker 5: You had the same virus put in to take down
Speaker 5: the Shah dynasty Xia that take their genealogies and ran
Speaker 5: the complete empires throughout the Chinese history that comes from
Speaker 5: the dragon creator.
Speaker 4: Gods, seraphim, angels.
Speaker 5: And you have that same virus that created national socialism
Speaker 5: to take down communism because communism got out of control.
Speaker 5: Then the banking system had to fund the allies to
Speaker 5: defeat national socialism.
Speaker 4: Because it got a control.
Speaker 5: But what we see now is an evolution from national
Speaker 5: socialism to global socialism. It's national socialism on a globalist scale.
Speaker 5: And so they want to drop the old linkages to
Speaker 5: Hitler and national socialism and reinvent them as right wing
Speaker 5: even though they were the National Socialist Workers Party, I mean,
Speaker 5: and they developed a system of oligarchs that was funded
Speaker 5: by the banks, that was going to run the thousand
Speaker 5: year millennium of the Third Reich. And they had a
Speaker 5: universal Richs Church religion that they were wanting to supplant
Speaker 5: on the world as if they were successful. So as
Speaker 5: we understand this is look for that system national socialism
Speaker 5: on a globalist scale to be the mo and the
Speaker 5: organizational structure they want to have for the end time.
Speaker 4: And it's being pieced.
Speaker 5: Together, and it's going to come together through catastrophes that
Speaker 5: they're going to create and predict, and they're going to
Speaker 5: cattle herd people from polar opposites to move into that direction.
Speaker 5: So you might imagine white hats and black hats, as
Speaker 5: they like to call it, white magic and black magic,
Speaker 5: good giants and evil giants and so on and so forth.
Speaker 5: That's their micro versus their macro dualism, and it's designed
Speaker 5: to cattle herd people from polls apart positions into the
Speaker 5: direction that they want. So an example of that, and
Speaker 5: I don't know where Elon fits at this point in time,
Speaker 5: but I'll use him as an example. He was talking
Speaker 5: about the evil AI that Google was creating. So Elon's
Speaker 5: and I like Elon a lot for what he's doing,
Speaker 5: But I always watched the rich and the powerful like
Speaker 5: a hawk. And his solution to Google was, I'm going
Speaker 5: to create my own AI company and make good AI.
Speaker 5: There is no such thing as good AI. It's existential
Speaker 5: threat to us. So that's the type of things that
Speaker 5: sort of happen, and it has the same ends. And
Speaker 5: whether they call them some white hats who have Humankinds
Speaker 5: interest at better heart versus the dark hats which just
Speaker 5: want to get rid of us quickly, they worship the
Speaker 5: same pantheon of gods and have the same goal. So
Speaker 5: we're just pawns in that whole sort of movement if
Speaker 5: we don't, you know, understand what they're doing to us.
Speaker 5: And this is going to funnel in with these wars
Speaker 5: and rumors of wars and catastrophes that are going to
Speaker 5: make the way for the false prophets. And this whole
Speaker 5: system with the bloodlines is going to funnel into the
Speaker 5: ten Kings that's going to create the Babbylon system in
Speaker 5: those four components then funnel into the Anti Christ because
Speaker 5: there can only be one, and he's actually going to
Speaker 5: overthrow three and he's going to behead everybody, because he's
Speaker 5: going to make sure all the ones who don't swear
Speaker 5: loyalty to him in an oath are going to have
Speaker 5: their heads chopped off, and they want to make sure
Speaker 5: they stay dead because that's their belief system, and it's
Speaker 5: going to include humans as well. That'll be just sort
Speaker 5: of the collateral damage that is going to funnel into
Speaker 5: the Beast system. So we have these parallel technologies and
Speaker 5: organizations that are starting to move in a direction to
Speaker 5: a nexus point. And we can't get caught getting ahead
Speaker 5: of ourselves on some of the technologies and these nexus points,
Speaker 5: or otherwise we're going to lose our credibility. We just
Speaker 5: have to continue to point the direction.
Speaker 2: So there we go, so.
Speaker 1: Awesome words of advice and and and as always you
Speaker 1: know on we want to lead you guys to Christ.
Speaker 1: That's the whole entire purpose. Okay, So we have, like
Speaker 1: you said, the black cats, the white hats. I know
Speaker 1: that there's a US conspiracy minded people are searching for
Speaker 1: the truth, and we know that at the end of
Speaker 1: the rabbit holes, you guys are left with nothing. That's
Speaker 1: why we're trying to show you the real truth, the way,
Speaker 1: the truth, the life Jesus Christ. We're trying to lead
Speaker 1: you to being on God's side. You know that God
Speaker 1: wins in the end. All these terrible things that you
Speaker 1: might hear on the news, all these terrible things happening
Speaker 1: that are that are going behind the scenes. We know
Speaker 1: that God is in control. And and you know, you
Speaker 1: can only worship one master. So if you're not worshiping God,
Speaker 1: you are worshiping Satan. You know, even if you're not
Speaker 1: in a Satan's you know, sitting in his temple, you're not.
Speaker 1: If you're not worshiping God, you're worshiping Satans. So literally
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do is just bring you there.
Speaker 1: So now, ed, can you shut out your website for them?
Speaker 1: It's a w is it faith by reason dot net?
Speaker 3: I think right, yes, yes, not dot com? Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's someone else who won't sell me their their website,
Speaker 3: So faith reason dot Net. Also on YouTube, my videos
Speaker 3: are there? Did my revelation series sixty videos? I just
Speaker 3: started a Genesis serial. I thing my next one will
Speaker 3: be up in the in the next couple of days
Speaker 3: on that and so yeah, Twitter as well X. I
Speaker 3: think yeah you have Twitter X. I'm on there as well,
Speaker 3: but yeah, my website faith I reason dot Net's the
Speaker 3: best way to find all my videos, my blogs, my
Speaker 3: podcasts are there, so thank you.
Speaker 1: Then Gary, can you shout out your YouTube and how
Speaker 1: they can get a hold of you if they need
Speaker 1: to ask you questions.
Speaker 4: So you'll see many YouTube channels out there with my name.
Speaker 5: I do not have one, okay, So the best way
Speaker 5: to get hold of me is either through Facebook under
Speaker 5: Gary Wayne, to go to a messenger or onto my timeline,
Speaker 5: or to go to my website Genesis sixth conspiracy dot com.
Speaker 5: That's the number six conspiracy dot com. I have a
Speaker 5: generous excerpt all ninety eight chapters of book one, all
Speaker 5: eighty four chapters. There's a book two on the media page.
Speaker 5: I have some shows on there, as I was mentioning
Speaker 5: probably earlier, fifteen shows for the two books on each section,
Speaker 5: and then one that's kind of an overview and a
Speaker 5: video on book one from the now UCTV people that
Speaker 5: I think was done really good and it was my
Speaker 5: first video that I had done, so I have a
Speaker 5: warm spot and I left that one up and on
Speaker 5: my website you can get a signed copy of my
Speaker 5: book if you want it, and it's the best place
Speaker 5: in the quickest place to get my books. So you
Speaker 5: go to the buy now, you go to book one,
Speaker 5: buy one, or buy or book two buy and if
Speaker 5: you want to buy one book, you can buy one
Speaker 5: book and you can email me but if you have
Speaker 5: a custom signature on it if you want, if not,
Speaker 5: I'll do my own. There's room there to put on
Speaker 5: who you want it signed too. And the more books
Speaker 5: you buy, the larger the discount. I just pass on
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Speaker 5: five dollars a book and goes as high as ten
Speaker 5: dollars a book, depending on how many books you're b
Speaker 5: I just put up a bundling page on book three,
Speaker 5: so you can buy book one and two and pick
Speaker 5: the quantity that you want and get the discount on it.
Speaker 5: And then I've got an email linked to me off
Speaker 5: of there to give me the names and if there's
Speaker 5: any special signings that you want on it. You can
Speaker 5: link over from my website to Amazon dot com, Amazon
Speaker 5: dot Ca, and Burnesannoble dot com, so if you want
Speaker 5: to buy from them, it's available from them and other bookstores.
Speaker 5: You can also link over from the website to Amazon
Speaker 5: for the kindle edition of both books, and it takes
Speaker 5: you right to that page. I will have links up
Speaker 5: as soon as book two.
Speaker 4: Audio is up.
Speaker 5: And if you live in the US you wanted to
Speaker 5: sign copy, you go to the US page. If you
Speaker 5: live in Canada, you go to the Canada page. If
Speaker 5: you live anywhere else in the world, you go to
Speaker 5: the international page. So I ship all over the world
Speaker 5: for the books. And yeah, so the website has a
Speaker 5: good new look. And if you want to contact me
Speaker 5: and get some more information or ask a question, go
Speaker 5: to contact the author.
Speaker 4: I will tell you this.
Speaker 5: I've been so busy with the audios and the new
Speaker 5: book this year. I am now three months behind on emails.
Speaker 4: Bear with me. I will get back to you. I
Speaker 4: do them in order, right.
Speaker 2: Thank you, And as we always do, guys, we end
Speaker 2: this in prayer. So let's do that.
Speaker 1: So, Father God, in the name of Jesus, we appreciate
Speaker 1: everything you do for us. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: a clear connection. Thank you so much for introducing me
Speaker 1: to Ed and Gary. What an amazing show that we
Speaker 1: had here.
Speaker 2: Lord, we appreciate that so much.
Speaker 1: And I just want to ask that you anybody that's
Speaker 1: out there right now listening that you know, they're hearing
Speaker 1: all these conspiracies and they might have fear in their hearts.
Speaker 1: And we know that you know that you win in
Speaker 1: the end. Lord, So we know that we talked about
Speaker 1: revelation and some of your scriptures that are you know,
Speaker 1: with the Antichrist and some of this evil. But we
Speaker 1: know Lord that you have us, you know, and if
Speaker 1: you can help these people that are listening to understand
Speaker 1: the prophecies as much as possible, help Ed and help
Speaker 1: Gary when they're teaching revelation or if they're teaching or
Speaker 1: anything out of the Bible, just helped them to to
Speaker 1: teach it clearly and and and with the you know,
Speaker 1: the best knowledge that they could do, you know. So
Speaker 1: we appreciate everything you do for us, Lord, and thank
Speaker 1: you so much in Jesus name.
Speaker 2: Amen.
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