WEBVTT 1 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:21.640 Hey, this is Cliff, your host of Earth Agents. 2 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:22.839 I hope you're doing well today. 3 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:24.519 Come on in, let's talk. 4 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:27.160 Let's see what's going on for this coming week. 5 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:31.640 Hey. I wanted to mention that our YouTube channel is 6 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:36.520 being populated and I want to endorse it as much 7 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:41.039 as possible because we are able to really drill down 8 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:43.119 into details. And when I say details, a lot of 9 00:00:43.119 --> 00:00:48.960 my guests have graphics, they have illustrations, they have photos. Obviously, 10 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:53.119 if you're listening, you can't see what they're talking about. 11 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:55.719 And I know as a. 12 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:59.079 Podcast fan myself, when I'm listening to a host talk 13 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:03.200 to somebody or like talking about the photograph or an 14 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:05.680 illustration or a graph or something, it's like, what the hell, 15 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:11.200 I don't get it. So I offer two resources for you. 16 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:15.120 One is that most of the illustrations or photos or 17 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:18.200 whatever the guest is showing is on the Facebook page. 18 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:22.319 And I usually put a podcast notes or podcast news 19 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:26.079 within the last within the twenty four hours after the interview. 20 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:29.280 And if you don't want it there, you can actually 21 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:33.719 see the entire interview on YouTube. Just go to Earth 22 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:36.959 Ancients and you'll see it on YouTube. And it is 23 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:42.719 crystal clear. And thanks to my video team. It's edited tightly, 24 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:48.400 and it's audio is clean as well, and check it out. 25 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:52.079 In fact, some people will actually listen to the audio 26 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:56.040 version as we're driving or walking or whatever and then 27 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.879 go home and watch the YouTube channel and see it 28 00:01:59.879 --> 00:02:02.200 again with the illustrations. 29 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:05.079 So that this is a new phase. 30 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:10.199 And there's some people that are really demanding that I 31 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:12.800 put it on too, that I put it on the Spotify, 32 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:16.120 because you can put a whole show on the Spotify. 33 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:18.240 I'm not sure I'm there yet. 34 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:23.800 I'm very cautious about putting full videos on Spotify. 35 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:27.240 I would rather put. 36 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:30.840 A tease, which is a two minute promo on Spotify 37 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:31.879 to give you an idea. 38 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:34.639 What you're going to be introduced to in the in 39 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:35.560 the interview. 40 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:38.800 So so those are things to consider as we're growing. 41 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:43.000 And the good news. The latest news is that we 42 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:46.759 have a brand new Destiny channel. It can be found 43 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:51.759 on the Destiny podcast dot com and it goes back 44 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:57.080 right now about three months almost four months, with all 45 00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:01.240 the presenters we've had and all the contact information and 46 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:04.479 all their book details as well as links to their 47 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:08.039 website and where to get hold of the books. And 48 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:10.759 I got to say the most recent interview we did 49 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:17.439 with Miles Neil has been overwhelmingly positive. Apparently a lot 50 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:22.639 of people were affected by his discourse and suggestions for 51 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:27.319 generational healing. And this is something that I brought up 52 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:29.879 in that interview, is that I have family members that 53 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:31.879 are dealing with my I should just say my son 54 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:34.800 is dealing with depression because he can't seem to get 55 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:40.000 clear of problems, you know, as not his necessarily problems, 56 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:47.120 it's environmental problems, the economy, the environment. He's really challenged 57 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:50.479 by the political scene right now as well many of 58 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:55.199 us are, and it's just really weighing him down and 59 00:03:55.280 --> 00:04:01.360 his friends and that generation. So Miles had some really 60 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:06.560 great suggestions that were not only impactful, but I've gotten 61 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:11.719 numerous emails about having him back, and so check that out. 62 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:15.319 That's the most recent podcast that we posted for Destiny, 63 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:22.759 and it's titled Return with elixor Miles Neil, doctor Miles Neil, 64 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:26.040 who actually lives in Bali, Indonesia, which I thought was 65 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:29.199 fascinating and then and the interview came across pretty good. 66 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:33.279 We typically have problems with with that type of distance, 67 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:36.519 but it came out beautiful, So check it out. So, yeah, 68 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:39.279 we got a we got a new website for Destiny, 69 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:42.560 and we're also working on a YouTube channel because. 70 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:43.360 What I mean, I have. 71 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:48.319 Six seven years of video feed from some of the 72 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:53.439 top people, including Graham Hancock, including Temple. 73 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:54.240 I mean, there's a. 74 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:59.360 Really top of the line, uh top people. So check 75 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:03.600 that out all right. Today is kind of a fun 76 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:06.000 one for me. You know, when we think of the 77 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:11.079 Giza Plateau, we think of the pyramids there, and many 78 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:15.560 many years ago, Chris Dunn, an engineer, presented a book 79 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:19.920 called the Giza power Plant, in which he actually went 80 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:25.279 through the pyramid physically as well as interior and exterior, 81 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:29.319 and made an assessment that it wasn't a tomb, that 82 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:32.240 it was a machine of some kind. And one of 83 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:35.439 the observations he made at that time was that seemed 84 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:39.480 to be residue on the walls of some kind of 85 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:44.319 chemical composition, and that there was also evidence of seawater, 86 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:49.959 and there was all evidence of heat going through there. 87 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:54.560 And so he surmised and hy theorized that there was 88 00:05:55.759 --> 00:06:00.720 something that the pyramid, the Cufu Pyramid they call it, 89 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:05.959 the Great Pyramid, was an engine of some kind producing energy, 90 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:09.720 producing power. And then his follow up book talked more 91 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:15.000 about that and how the energy was distributed. So until 92 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:20.839 now this has been the prevailing thought behind the Pyramid 93 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:26.600 by alternative thinkers. Alternative science is alternative archaeologists that Chris 94 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:29.319 Dunn has his finger on the pulse of what that was. 95 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:33.639 Now today we're gonna look at the same kind of phenomenon. 96 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:36.160 We're gonna look at the Great Pyramid, but not as 97 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:41.439 an energy producer, but as a chemical producer. And my 98 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:46.279 guest today has been to Egypt a few times and 99 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:52.319 has come back with a profound revelation that these were 100 00:06:53.439 --> 00:07:01.199 the pyramids were manufacturing chemicals. And this is completely opposite 101 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:05.120 our thoughts of a power plan of some kind. And 102 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:11.000 as you'll hear today, his theories are quite impressive. And 103 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:14.199 he's not just talking about the Great Pyramid, at the 104 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:18.720 Great Giza Pyramid, Cufu, Caffre, and the others. He's also 105 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:22.399 talking about and pyramids that are a few miles away 106 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:26.319 known as the Bent Pyramid and the Red Pyramid, and 107 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:31.759 smaller pyramids around Egypt, and they all had a process 108 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:36.240 of chemical creation. Now, the one thing that he does 109 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:39.199 appear to be in line with Chris Dunn and many 110 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:43.600 other people, including the analysis of some of the SAR 111 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:48.040 and satellite imagery is that there's a significant tunnel system 112 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:51.279 under the ground. And you know, it's more. It seems 113 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:54.800 like more and more people are admitting this, and the 114 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:57.639 Egyptian government, the Antiquities Department, just does not want to 115 00:07:57.720 --> 00:08:00.439 deal with that, doesn't want to even consider it. And 116 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:03.959 I don't know if it's because it requires an acknowledgment 117 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:09.680 of an alternative view, or that simply digging would be 118 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:12.439 too costly, too many man hours, and they don't want 119 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:15.319 to deal with it. Really a poor way to look 120 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:18.480 at ancient history. If you ask me, I'm all over it, 121 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:20.519 and if you've heard people on the show who are 122 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:23.079 all over it. We need to start digging and find 123 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:29.160 out what's going on from Hawara, Egypt, the Great Pyramid 124 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:32.320 there to the Giza Plateau. We need to start digging, 125 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:35.320 and we need to do it soon. So today's program 126 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.399 is unique and it's fun and it is very different. 127 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:42.279 And by the way, this is also going to be 128 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:45.039 on YouTube for you to check out. So today's program 129 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:49.919 is the Land of Kim and my guest is Jeffrey 130 00:08:50.240 --> 00:09:12.879 Drum The Earth Ancients, Guatemala Temple Tour December first through 131 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:13.639 the twelve. 132 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:17.759 As you know from my work, one of the main 133 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:21.200 functions of the temples is out of state, so we 134 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:25.519 can really reprogram yourself. We can manifest different things in 135 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:29.120 our lives. There is also an opportunity for healing, so 136 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:31.200 there is so much that we can do when we 137 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:36.200 have access combining you know, the left and right brain 138 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:39.720 hemisphere approaches, or the more masculine semine if you like. 139 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:45.120 Knowing the science, doing measurements, understanding the electromagnetism and the 140 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:49.519 spiritual technology of these temples and then having the experiential 141 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:53.519 side and doing all the spiritual work offside, is just 142 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:59.639 like a very holistic, complete way to interact with the temples. 143 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:04.519 That's doctor Lydia de Leong, our host for the upcoming 144 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.200 Sacred Pyramid Tour in Guatemala December first of the twelfth. 145 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:11.799 This is a rare opportunity to work with. 146 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:15.879 Harmonics and the energy behind these pyramids. 147 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:18.879 We only have a few places left. This is going to. 148 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.559 Be a very rare opportunity to engage with the local 149 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:27.559 shaman archaeologists who have been studying pyramids for decades, and 150 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:31.639 opportunities not only to interact with the pyramid to lyrics 151 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:32.360 that are. 152 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:34.840 Available, but also sit. 153 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:40.919 Stand, walk and climb a variety of pyramids throughout Guatemala. 154 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.799 For more information on this wonderful tour, go to earth 155 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:46.799 Ancients dot com forward slash tours. 156 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.679 Looking for the banner and click it. 157 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.480 If you have any questions whatsoever, send me an email 158 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:55.120 sender to earth Ancients the number fourth letter U at gmail. 159 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.600 Dot com and I will get that back to you. 160 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.320 Join me on the special tour December. 161 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:04.600 First of the twelfth again for more information earthacients dot 162 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:59.919 com Forward slash Tours. I'm always amazed at the pin 163 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:04.519 millions of people when they go to Egypt, and when 164 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:06.720 I first was over there in twenty I think I 165 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:09.519 was over there in twenty sixteen the first time. Not 166 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.600 only was I shocked, I mean times was suspended for 167 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:16.399 me because I couldn't believe the Great Pyramids. I couldn't 168 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:20.440 believe the size of the Sphinx, I couldn't believe the temples. 169 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:24.200 There's so much that was just beyond comprehension for me, 170 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:27.879 and I made a mental note that I needed to 171 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:31.279 go back. And I was fortunate because I was able 172 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.799 to go through my tour company every year and we've 173 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:35.559 gone every year. 174 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:36.200 Except for last year. 175 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:37.000 I don't think we went. 176 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.120 But my guest today actually had a chance to go 177 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:46.759 in twenty seventeen. Not only was he impressed, but he 178 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:50.759 was I would say shocked. We're going to find out 179 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:55.159 today how shocked he was at the technology, at the 180 00:12:55.200 --> 00:13:00.480 sheer size of the Giza Plateau and the Pyramids, as 181 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:02.399 well as a number of other places that he went. 182 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:08.440 And he has left us some interesting points of view 183 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:12.559 in his videos on YouTube videos and also a series 184 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:15.440 of books called The Land of Kim. My guest today 185 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:22.480 is Jeffrey Drums, coming to us from Japan, and I 186 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:25.799 have been getting a number of people on my channel 187 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:28.840 and through emails going you got to have this guy 188 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:32.399 in the program. And I was following up and looking 189 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:35.879 at some of his research and I thought, you know what, 190 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:38.759 this is something I do have to have on my program. 191 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:43.080 So we have with us today, Jeffrey. Welcome to Earth Ancients. 192 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:44.320 Great to have you on the program. 193 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:48.519 Thank you, Cliff. I appreciate that usually in my interviews 194 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:51.320 I see good evening from Egypt, as my wife and 195 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:54.159 I have been living in Egypt full time for three 196 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:57.000 years now, but today is good morning from Japan. We're 197 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:00.360 on the other side of the world and starting our 198 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:05.840 second extensive research expedition covering some of the ancient structures 199 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:06.519 here in Japan. 200 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:10.759 Yeah, that's very cool. I've only talked spoken to one 201 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.679 person who is in Japan that's really looked at the 202 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:16.960 megalithic culture there. They don't really embrace. 203 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:17.159 It very much. 204 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:20.080 The locals don't very really embrace it. So I'd love 205 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:23.120 to see what you're up to. Let's talk about Egypt. 206 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:26.000 You were there in twenty seventeen. What was the motivation 207 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:28.960 they had to Cairo and the Giza Plateau. 208 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:34.200 Yeah, so my first research expedition to Egypt was in 209 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:37.440 twenty seventeen, and at that point I had already been 210 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.360 you know, researching and studying the alternative theories about the 211 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:45.080 function of the Egyptian pyramids, and I finally decided that 212 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:47.919 I had to go and see it for myself. And 213 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:51.759 through a serendipitous series of events, you know, I was 214 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:55.679 finally able to get to Egypt, and I did a 215 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:59.720 tour with the Great Yusuf Aweyan. And everybody knows Yusuf 216 00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:04.720 in the the ancient alternative history community, so I contacted him. 217 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:08.240 He was my tour guide from my first research expedition 218 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:11.559 to Egypt, and you know, I was going to investigate 219 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:15.440 the alternative hypotheses that focus on the Great Pyramid of Giza, 220 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.759 and most researchers who talk about the function of the 221 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:23.240 Egyptian pyramids focus exclusively on the Great Pyramid as if 222 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:25.840 you know, all of the other ones simply don't exist, 223 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:29.360 or if they are non functional structures. And in my opinion, 224 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:33.159 that's a huge deficiency in the discussion of the function 225 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:36.840 of the Egyptian pyramids is you know, just looking at 226 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:39.399 one as if it has all of these magical properties 227 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:42.480 and all of the other ones are insignificant or non functional. 228 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.639 And in my book and on my YouTube channel, I 229 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.440 talk about the function of all of the Egyptian pyramids 230 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:51.720 under the umbrella of physics and chemistry, from the Step 231 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:54.759 Pyramid to the Red Pyramid, Bent Pyramid, Great Pyramid, and 232 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:59.639 Central Pyramid as an interconnected system of chemical manufacturing structures. 233 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:04.639 And my intention was to investigate these hypotheses about the 234 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:07.120 function of the Great Pyramid that have been proposed by 235 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:10.279 you know, researchers like Christopher Dunn, and you know, he's 236 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:15.720 basically the godfather of the alternative theories about the function 237 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:18.480 of the Great Pyramid. So I wanted to see it 238 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:20.879 for myself and see if there was anything to you know, 239 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:24.759 the proposal that the Great Pyramid. You know, long story short, 240 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:27.919 everybody thinks that the Great Pyramid was producing electricity, which 241 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:31.879 is a hypothesis that I disagree with. I think it 242 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:37.480 was using electricity and the product was chemicals, specifically a 243 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.639 solution of dilute sulfuric acid within the Great Pyramid. And 244 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:43.080 we can get into why that's the case, you know, 245 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:46.120 as we talk. So my first site that I visited 246 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:48.240 in Egypt is a site called Abu Sir and I 247 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:49.960 don't know if you've ever been out to the Abu 248 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:53.399 Sir pyramid complex. Yeah, And I happen to stumble across 249 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:58.080 an artifact that's a red quartzite collection bowl. And this 250 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:03.360 collection bowl is connected to a red quartzite conduit system 251 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:07.000 that runs below the black basalt paving of the Pyramid 252 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:11.880 of Niucere at Abusir. And clearly this is an artifact 253 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:16.759 that is for the conduction and collection of fluids of 254 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:19.200 some sort, because it's a you know, it's a liquid 255 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:22.559 channel or a liquid conduit that empties out into this 256 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:26.480 collection bowl. So whatever was flowing through that channel was 257 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:31.279 important enough for them to carve this exquisite red quartzite artifact, 258 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:35.480 and they were collecting this material and for a civilization 259 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:38.400 that lives on the bank of the Nile River, it 260 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:41.480 doesn't make any sense whatsoever that this is a rainwater 261 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:45.759 collection system. And there's a very complex network of conduits 262 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:49.960 that run through the pyramid complex at Abusir. There's the 263 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:52.839 red quartzite one that runs below the pyramid of Niucera, 264 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.079 and there was also a copper piping network that runs 265 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.240 below the paving of the pyramid of Sahure, So there 266 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:01.160 was something going on on there where there was a 267 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:05.759 complex network that was utilized for the distribution of fluid chemicals. 268 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:08.079 And that was my initial thought as soon as I 269 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:12.240 saw this, you know, collection bowl. It was ancient alchemy. 270 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:17.039 That they were producing something within these pyramids that was 271 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:20.359 incredibly important. And we know that Egypt was the birthplace 272 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:26.559 of chemistry. Our modern word chemistry literally has its etymological 273 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:30.119 origin in the word kem, the ancient word for Egypt 274 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:33.200 kh e m, which led to the word for alchemy 275 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:36.960 and our modern word for chemistry, and Egypt, you know, 276 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:42.720 even according to the conventional Dynastic Egyptian timeline and historical narrative, 277 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:45.160 it was the birthplace of chemistry. It was the first 278 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:51.079 people to manufacture pharmaceuticals, synthetic pigments like Egyptian blue was 279 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:54.880 the first chemical compound ever produced in the historical record. 280 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:59.079 They were also making cosmetics and all sorts of chemical 281 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:03.920 related product in the Dynastic Egyptian pyramid or period. Rather, 282 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:07.640 and the title of my book, the Land of em 283 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:10.519 is a play on words for the original name for Egypt, 284 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:13.559 the Land of Kem, because it's the land of chemistry. 285 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.599 So we visited Abusir, and this idea kind of popped 286 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:21.480 into my head that you know, maybe the Egyptian pyramids 287 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:24.440 weren't didn't have anything to do with electricity, but they 288 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.559 were rather producing chemicals and they were collecting these chemicals. 289 00:19:28.039 --> 00:19:30.279 Chemicals are bit of a valuable let's talk about this. 290 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:34.200 So you're in the bus with you Yusuf, and you're 291 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:38.599 driving up the hill to go to the plateau. You 292 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:40.799 get out of the bus, you're standing in front of 293 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:44.519 the pyramid. What was your first impression of Kufu and 294 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:46.240 Caffree pyramids. 295 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:51.000 Well, so the first one we went to after Abusir 296 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:55.440 wasn't the Giza Pyramid complex quite yet. The next structures 297 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:58.240 that we visited were the pyramids of dash Shure, the 298 00:19:58.279 --> 00:20:01.799 Red Pyramid, and the Ventz Pyramid. So that was really 299 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:04.720 my first experience getting up and close to one of 300 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:09.880 the major So the pyramids of Abusir are smaller, again 301 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:13.559 according to the conventional timeline. Those are Fifth Dynasty structures 302 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:16.599 that were built after the pyramids on the Giza plateau, 303 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.559 and they're a little bit smaller. They're about the size 304 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:22.319 of the menkar Rah Pyramid, the final pyramid on the 305 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:26.240 Giza plateau. So those were incredibly impressive and there's a 306 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:31.559 very complex, you know, engineering network going on with those pyramids. 307 00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:34.079 But my first experience really getting up close in person 308 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:37.039 with one of the big boys was the Red invent 309 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:39.960 Pyramids and Dashua And I remember I didn't know that 310 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:41.519 we were going to be able to go inside of 311 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:44.640 these things. Yeah, so you know, I'm going with Yusuf. 312 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:46.400 We go out there and we start walking up the 313 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:50.119 stairs to go inside of the Red Pyramid, and as 314 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:53.039 soon as we went inside those chambers, there is chemical 315 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:58.000 staining all over the walls of the interior chambers. Of 316 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:01.039 the red pyramid, and there's a very very strong smell 317 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:05.480 of ammonia, right, people will usually attribute that to bats. 318 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:09.680 But you know, fast forward six years from twenty seventeen 319 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:14.359 and we now have an immense database of chemical analysis 320 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:18.480 data that proves that the staining inside of the Red 321 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:21.799 Pyramid has absolutely nothing to do with bats, bat guano 322 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:24.720 or a bat urine, nor is the smell of ammonia 323 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:28.559 emanating from anything related to bats. The chemical staining on 324 00:21:28.599 --> 00:21:31.920 the walls is a complex mixture of metal oxides. And 325 00:21:32.440 --> 00:21:33.799 you know, I can I don't want to get too 326 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:36.799 far off track, but if anybody's listening, go check out 327 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:39.200 the Land of Kem YouTube channel, and I have a 328 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:43.160 whole playlist called chemical analysis data that presents all of 329 00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:45.960 the chemical analysis that we've accumulated over the past six 330 00:21:46.039 --> 00:21:50.440 years that support this hypothesis about chemical manufacturing. Yeah, and 331 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:54.680 I remember so. In my opinion, the Bent Pyramid, you know, 332 00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:58.119 walking up to the Bent Pyramid is far more impressive 333 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:01.119 than going up to the pyramid on the Giza Plateau 334 00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:04.519 because of the casing stones. Yeah, I've been there. People 335 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:07.480 may not know that it's fantastic. The Bent Pyramid is 336 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:12.960 the one pyramid that still has the vast majority of 337 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:17.359 its original casing stones still intact, and you can look 338 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:21.680 at the edges of the bent pyramid and the precision 339 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:26.160 with which the external casing stones were executed. It's like 340 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:29.240 a razor blade running down the edge of the pyramid. 341 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:31.359 You know, you could take a piece of paper and 342 00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:33.720 run it along that edge and it would slice right 343 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:37.039 down that that piece of paper, and the precision of 344 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:40.359 the alignment of those casing stones is is really unbelievable. 345 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:43.480 There's a specific place that I like to stand on 346 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:46.680 the northeastern corner and you could there's a there's a 347 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:48.640 place where you can put your feet and look right 348 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:50.960 up at the edge and again it's just like a 349 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:53.039 razor blade going up the edge of the pyramid. So 350 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:55.240 that was really my first experience and I was I 351 00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:57.640 was blown away. You know, you watch YouTube videos of 352 00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:00.559 other people going out and exploring these things, and you 353 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:06.799 study diagrams, but there's really nothing like being there in person. 354 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:11.480 So you so shameless plug. I have another tour coming 355 00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:17.680 up in November, thirteen day tour Private special permission access 356 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:20.599 into the Great Pyramid. We've got private special permission access 357 00:23:20.599 --> 00:23:24.799 to Abu sir, you know full Nile, Nile Cruise, Upper Egypt, 358 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:28.160 Lower Egypt, everything from Abu Simbel to the pyramids on 359 00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:31.519 the Giza plateau. So if anybody's interested, send me an 360 00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:34.599 email contact at the LANDFKM dot com subject line twenty. 361 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:38.519 We'll put a link. We'll put a link for people 362 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:43.079 to register at the end of the show so people 363 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:47.000 can go and send up. So what was your impression 364 00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:51.240 of the Bent Pyramid? The level of precision in not 365 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:54.880 only the outer casing stones, but as you go into 366 00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:58.240 the guts of the of the pyramid you obviously were 367 00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:01.319 inside of it. Everything seems to be very precise. Why 368 00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:04.079 would they do that? Is it an engine of some 369 00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:06.920 kind or is it more of a processing center? 370 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:10.640 Do you think so? In my opinion, and according to 371 00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:13.400 my research in the hypotheses that I've presented in my 372 00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:16.599 book and on my YouTube channel, the internal chambers of 373 00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:21.640 the pyramids of Egypt are chemical reaction chambers and there's 374 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:26.240 very meticulous engineering, physics based engineering that went into the 375 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:29.599 design of these chambers. For example, the Red and Bent 376 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:33.640 pyramids both have well it doesn't look like this now 377 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.039 inside of the Bent Pyramid because there is a tremendous 378 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.799 amount of internal erosion on the upper primary chamber inside 379 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:44.880 of the Bent pyramid, and your number one question should 380 00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:49.839 be what caused all that erosion. The inside of the 381 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:53.160 upper primary reaction chamber of the Bent pyramid is completely 382 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:56.759 eroded out on the inside. It was originally a pristine 383 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:01.400 tiered upper corrible vault sea, basically like what we see 384 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:05.480 in the Red Pyramid. And after my experience inside of 385 00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:07.640 these two pyramids, I began to look at it from 386 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:12.480 a function of basic physics. So when you look at 387 00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:16.640 the upper vault of these chambers, the volume of the 388 00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:21.599 chamber decreases the higher you go up in the chamber. 389 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:24.480 And if you look at the staining patterns inside of 390 00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:28.680 the Red pyramid, there's very specific staining patterns that indicate 391 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:34.160 denser staining in the upper portion of the chamber. So 392 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:36.960 this to me was an indication all of the staining 393 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:40.519 inside the Red Pyramid is evidence of the chemical reactions 394 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:43.599 that were occurring inside of the structure. So if you 395 00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:48.480 take a gas, for example, in a box or a 396 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:53.480 container of volume A, and you compress that gas into 397 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:57.160 half of the volume, you increase the temperature and pressure, 398 00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:01.920 which is a very basic mechanism of operation to drive 399 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:05.319 chemical reactions. We do the exact same thing today. When 400 00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.440 you want to push a chemical reaction forward, you increase 401 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:11.480