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Speaker 5: We're here with Doggie Wrong House in the House, Saturday Afternoon, Hips,
Shaking Money, Magan Tower Power, Dougie Fresh In the house.
I was just talking to my niece and she's in Albuquerque.
She's making some moves with her life and I can't
tell them. But she goes, how long you been doing this?
I think I've been two and a half years something
like that, and she goes, it would have been cool
if you could mark if you would have marked everyone down,
kept a log of it. I'm like, yeah, I guess
you know. Looking at that now, I guess so. But
I just thought, with every picture I take, yeah, one
of these will actually have the beginning date. And I
think it was.
Speaker 3: Well, we have the.
Speaker 5: Episodes, right, I'm not going to go through back through
all those to do it. I'll just wait for memories
on Facebook that come up.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, Yeah, memories are a scary thing on Facebook.
Speaker 4: They're a little scary if you're in like a situation
me and you realize what a marker and time children
are because things will pop up and it's a lot
of it is me and my youngest son, and he
was just this little idyo, bitty guy, and you know.
Speaker 3: You feel old turn in sixteen.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I do so much life that's gone through.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't feel old.
Speaker 5: I don't look old.
Speaker 4: I probably, yeah. I don't know what people say. I
don't know when people say that. I always think they're
full of shit. I had a guy say to me yesterday.
We were talking in uh just he and I. We
were in a room and uh. I was eating my
lunch and trying to go through some school stuff and
the guys starts talking and I said, uh, something about oh,
my son is one year younger than you, and he goes,
how old are you? And I said, I'm fifty four.
Speaker 5: Young enough to kick your ass pilgrim.
Speaker 3: I go, well, I don't know. I said I'm fifty four.
Speaker 4: And the guy goes, it's a sin to lie, and
I said he said that, yeah, he was kidding, right,
Oh okay, And I said, now I'm telling you. He goes,
what's your secret? I said, well, this part o sext. No,
this part is true, I said. I said, I drink
a lot. Now I have caught way back. I just
will say that. But I said I drink a lot,
and he goes, oh, too bad, I'm Muslim, I don't drink.
But it was a great conversation. It was really interesting
what transpired after that. But so I always think people
are full of shit when they say you look young,
I don't.
Speaker 5: Well, we had a customer where I work ninety years old.
Found out from a customer yesterday. Yeah you know, Tim died.
I go, old Tim, He goes, yeah, I go, you
know what happened somebody? I go, gosh, that guy would
come in and drink four or five man hands everywhere.
He goes, yeah, that was the only thing keeping him going.
Speaker 3: That might have been.
Speaker 5: And I told somebody else, they'd be like, well, he
came in and had a non alcoholic beer. I go, yeah,
it had one non alcoholic beer and then the manhands afterwards.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't I'll say, I don't know that it's
the alcohol as much as honestly, it's the socialization. Yes
that you talk getting out there, but but you talk
to him, you knew who he was.
Speaker 5: I had to talk to him three, four or five
times for one cent. That's because he was deaf to
the point where I was yelling over the bar and
I fell back because then.
Speaker 3: You're, yeah, sure, interrupting other people.
Speaker 5: Do you want fries with your fish fry? And you
don't want to feel bad because he's ninety.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know exactly but I do think that that
is a big piece that keeps people alive.
Speaker 5: He still he still, he still drove. Yeah, and then
you're like, oh gosh, how many man hands does you need?
Speaker 3: And like.
Speaker 5: Do you need another one? You know, maybe it's time
to go, and you try to be nice, but yeah,
they're getting out. And some of these old timers, at
least years before, they had the routine of two, three,
four bars, you know, especially the old timers, they would stop,
they knew where all the good looking girls were and
they'd have one and they tip kind of nice, Yeah, Teresa,
I'll see it. I'll see you next week or tomorrow.
Speaker 3: My grandfather used to call it, hey dolly. I used
to get so uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: I'd be with him somewhere and he would say to
like if it was a deli count or something, hey Dolly,
can I get a half about a dolly? I look
at dollar and I would just be like, yeah, this
feels weird.
Speaker 3: They ate it up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they ate it up.
Speaker 3: They didn't care. They didn't care at all. So I
was like, all.
Speaker 4: Right, I just it sounded old school to me. That's
what made me uncomfortable. I never called anybody a Dolly.
You know what I mean, Hey Dolly, Hey doll.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should now not Dolly.
Speaker 5: I had a friend that used to call people Dolly,
Thanks doal Dolly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what Dolly was.
Speaker 5: Well, my grandfather said, Dolly, I don't. How are we doing?
Dow bugs? Bunny used dow did he dow you know,
back in the.
Speaker 3: Cartain But that was like really old ones.
Speaker 5: Wow, I'm fifty five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but so I'm like there, I don't remember the
doll stuff as much, but you're right.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I think that is an old term, is fifties. Yeah,
what are you doing?
Speaker 3: I wanted to bring something up that we had touched
on last west.
Speaker 5: Oh god, how tall are you? I'm six foot seven.
Well you can forget about the six foot and just
bring the seven. That was always That's a great one
line I found one night. She should get more credit
whether she wrote them or not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she delivered them. She delivered them. That's the thing, man.
They landed right.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I think so many times some people are
great at writing and not not executing, and somebody else
can just bring more life to it. Yeah, it's it's uh,
it's interesting and both acting and in comedy, uh, last
week we talked about we were talking about gop ones
when you were here, and I got a someone who
was very angry with me about my statements on Gail Oh,
the Ozambicans, things like that, and I just said, I said,
how I worry that it's a shortcut and what happened
to my body image and all this. And I basically
wrote back to the person who complained. I said something
about to the effect of I was riffing, not researching,
so you know this kind of thing. And then I
read an episode this past week. I read the person's complaint.
I never put their name in there, and they wrote back.
And I woke up this morning and before I even
got out of bed, I normally put my I have
my phone on airplane mode, so when I turn it on.
Speaker 3: Everything just starts coming in. I able to take it
off that I take it off, because.
Speaker 4: It's hard to put your phone on airplane mode. Now, yeah,
because the airplane modes keeps your Wi Fi on. It
used to not, but the planes have Wi Fi, so
you can put an airplane moll but the Wi Fi
stays on. And what will happen is when I'm near
the Wi Fi, my calls come through.
Speaker 5: I have noticed that I text a couple of people
late and they say so and so has their phone off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just do not disturbed.
Speaker 5: Do not disturb, or you can force it through if.
Speaker 4: That, do not disturb. Yeah, so maybe I'm making a mistake.
But I went through and I did a couple of
steps and built a shortcut button in my phone that
I can just hit it and it goes directly to
airplane mode. Nothing gets through. Uh, maybe that's not good
because I do have kids, and yeah.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's not swear, but you know, So I wake
up and when I heard it on, everything starts coming
in from the night before. And I saw this and
normally I wouldn't even turn it on until I get
to Uh.
Speaker 3: I had a cup of.
Speaker 4: Coffee, did some stuff, so I later your day, I
laid my in bed and I responded to the person again.
Speaker 3: And I won't go into the details of it, but
they were upset because I said that.
Speaker 4: You know, all the things I said about ozembic, and
they said, it really helps me. And I'm not talking
about that person in particular. What I was saying more
or less with The ozembic is the number of people
that are twenty to thirty forty pounds overweight that aren't
going to have some kind of drastic surgery or be required. Right,
this kind of thing that sometimes just better nutrition and
exercise makes you feel better instead of having to put
a drug in yourself. But that requires and it sucks
changing your lifestyle. Fucking sucks. It blows, man, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: You've done it.
Speaker 5: I'm doing it now, Okay, not to break. This is
not break. No I even told anybody.
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, yeah, and it sucks.
Speaker 4: There's a part of it that sucks, but you feel better,
and there is something about the motivation once you start
to see, let's say it's weight, the number on the
scale drop, you're more motivated to stick to what you're
doing because it's working. And that's a great thing. And
that's a great thing. But that's my point with this,
where the ozembic stuff is sort of a short but
you're not necessarily changing your lifestyle, right.
Speaker 5: I think, And I am agreeing with you that people
I'm just going to get the shot. Yeah, well you
just don't put the shot and all of a sudden,
three pounds are gone, right, You know it well. It
puts you in the mindset you don't need to you
don't have to eat. But the things that I know
that I could have been doing, I'm just doing now
because now I've gotten no point. I'm like, you gotta
do it two fifty. So no bread, no pasta, no carbs,
h black coffee, no creamer. Today is my cheat? Did
I stopped a dunkin Donuts on away here? Okay, smells
good protein. Mainly it's been steaking deviled eggs. And he laughed.
But I looked it up. I looked it up, and
somebody was talking to.
Speaker 3: Me, and they go, Doug's.
Speaker 4: Doug's whole existence is about what he has the materials
to make deviled eggs.
Speaker 3: They go, it's like an existential crisis. It's deviled eggs
for Doug.
Speaker 5: I looked on the line. I googled it. I jokingly said, hey,
I double eggs is good for a diet, and I said, yes,
double eggs are good if you are doing a keto diet,
which is basically mostly all protein. Right, so half a
steak at night with some double eggs, and at lunch
the next day nothing after eight water and black coffee.
Speaker 3: That's a a note. You're han't drank beer at all.
Speaker 5: I drank a lot on the Turks Destination, but.
Speaker 4: Since then, no, no, Yeah, I look, dude, I can
lose myself in bars. I don't drink heavily at home.
I can have a glass and want to put it away.
I can have a beer or I I don't know,
at home, and I mean, I'll drink, but.
Speaker 3: I don't drink at home. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: To me, it's a social thing. But when I get
going at the bar, man, I can feel it. Yeah,
and I went for just one hour the other day.
Speaker 5: If you're twenty one pounds overweight, you just change a
couple of things in your life and you'll see it
come off. And it doesn't have to be drastic. They
say a pound a week, but hey, look a pound
a day, half a pound a day, that'll that'll come off.
Speaker 4: I want to make this very clear in case the
person who was upset is listening, and I'll get into
what else they were upset about. And I really want
your opinion on this. I think it would be interesting
because I I think you have knowledge of people who
have been in this situation. But to this person look
if it jump starts for you, if you're what they
would do, it's not hard to be morbidly obese. If
you look at the charts, it's really not to fall
into that. If you have tried all these other things.
If it just doesn't work for you, and this is
a jumpstart, amen, go go far, do it.
Speaker 3: That's that's great.
Speaker 5: I'm just doesn't help with diabetes or something.
Speaker 4: Yes, it does, and looks your whole body is going
to feel better when you drop weight because there's less
pressure on your joints, especially if you yeah, and if
you just have had a hard time and even get so,
what does that mean if I have arthritis and it's
it most of that feeds off of like sugars and
things and my bodies and the weight on my body
and all the joints.
Speaker 3: You probably how could you exercise? You're you're in discomfort.
So if this this drug helps you get to.
Speaker 5: The point that you can and I can't stand people,
I'm sorry, I can't. I can't do a push up.
I can't do stuff. You can. Yes, whether you do
a push up from your knee, I can only do one.
You do one today, you do one tomorrow. By next Monday,
Saturday three go to two and that's what it is.
I'll tell you one thing I've been doing. I think
I showed you. It's leg lifts up to a chair.
I think I start with forty. You put your hands
above your head and you just come down opposite knee.
Now I'm up to one hundred, and that was you
just gotta it's just say a little bit.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: You need to put that on your dating profile. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm gon.
Speaker 5: I forgot. I'm going to save this for you. I
am on on Facebook dating. I am going to change
my profile picture to doubled eggs.
Speaker 3: Oh today, and I wonder what will happen.
Speaker 5: I probably nothing, but it's better than saying no mega yeah,
left left wing and stream you like Donald Trump, but
you got double eggs. Maybe I'll give you a hand job.
Speaker 4: I also said and that this person uh caught me
on a little bit or called me out on and
it doesn't change my opinion of it.
Speaker 3: I hope I explained it effectively.
Speaker 4: Because they took some some There were some passive aggressive
things in there, and I didn't write it back, but
it was things like, well, you're you're a man, you
know that kind of thing like your gender type stuff.
Speaker 3: And I I'm going, okay, I see.
Speaker 4: What's or I can't believe you're studying to be a
therapist and think this way.
Speaker 3: Is basically what they're saying.
Speaker 4: And what I said was, when it comes to addiction,
I don't think it's actually a disease. And I said,
so I'll clarify.
Speaker 5: What I mean by this gambling addiction disease I don't
think is a disease, but it is a very bad addiction.
Speaker 3: Well, I can say.
Speaker 5: That drinking a disease. I don't think it's a disease.
I think it's a very bad addiction.
Speaker 3: But it manifests is a disease in your body right
in the.
Speaker 5: One way to look at it. It's not like catching
a cold or flu.
Speaker 3: No, it's it's a build up. Yes, but there are
times where you can't start your day without the Carol.
Speaker 5: Is not a disease, it's a very bad addiction.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: You know where that's apples to oranges of what the real.
Speaker 3: Well we have.
Speaker 4: You know that they rehabs and places that will say
it's a disease and you try to have.
Speaker 5: To you have to understand I picked plenty of people
up in Uber that have told me how many years
or weeks they've been clean and just want to express that, Hey,
good for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, right, because it's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 4: And I will say, like, I understand why it's called
a disease because there are times where you can no
longer control the impulses. Right, So it's like it's it's
pathological in a sense. What I'm saying is that I
think that there are things that were driving it, and
by that it's whatever fucked up things happened in your
life that you're trying to sort of escape all the time.
Speaker 3: A lot of.
Speaker 4: Times people have something that they're avoiding, Yes, and it's
not always, but I would say, like if you go
out and just have a kind of a bender, maybe not.
Speaker 3: But probably I had a bad day at work, what
do I do.
Speaker 5: I never I don't think I've ever drank that way
because I always knew I was always a happy drunk
and wanted to play darts and joke and laugh. And
if there's a problem, I know that problem is going
to be there by the time I get home. Now
I'm drunk and the problem still there, So right, let's
try to face it or fix it or I get
I totally get you. Yes, have a couple drinks, relax
the situation, and you know, not maybe not stress about
it that much. And there's different degrees of levels of that.
Speaker 4: I think that what I think happens, and I don't know.
I think there's you know, traumas in the.
Speaker 3: Nervous system for people. That's where it kind of hits.
Speaker 4: Things that happen that you don't are too hot to touch,
the feelings are too intense, you get you don't know
how to deal with it. You don't know, and you
feel it, so you drink because it numbs you and
it helps, and then it just gets too far to
a point where now we've got a problem. And I
have known people, and I think that's why there's relapse
with things, because you're not dealing with the underlying issue
of what was driving the addiction. Could it have been
a trauma thing years ago, Could it be avoidance of side,
Who the fuck knows, But it's something there that's triggering that.
So and then there's a term called dry drunk, and
it's people who no longer drink.
Speaker 3: They did every thing, but.
Speaker 4: All those same problems, all those same personality shit is
still there, and now they're directing it at CrossFit, you
know what I mean, you know, and and hey, good
for them, for them, right, and everybody goes, well, they
did it, they're better.
Speaker 3: And then you talk to me, go, God, he's still
such a fucking.
Speaker 4: Dick, right, I mean, that's the thing. And you go,
you never dealt with your ship, so your ship's still there.
But and now you're found a healthier way.
Speaker 3: To avoid it. Great, but why not deal with this
ship so you can just be lived better?
Speaker 4: Because I tell you, like, you're carrying that ship around,
whatever it is, whatever things, whatever happened. I'm I'm amazed
at how much shit in our first years of life
just shape shape who we are. First couple of your
first eight now, I'm gonna say, like the first ten, Oh,
I'll go to first ten, I'll go to first, well,
go eight, we go to five.
Speaker 3: Something like that. I mean, I think it was.
Speaker 5: I think they say, you don't really start having a
memory till age four where you can write.
Speaker 4: But what they are seeing too, though, is that there's
attachment disorders and things, and that one of the things
is like babies, the trauma is.
Speaker 3: There, it's in the nervous system.
Speaker 4: It may not, and and a lot and a lot
of times we'll go, well, they don't remember that. Hey,
come on, so I fucking you know, put a cigarette
and let cigarette out on their elbow.
Speaker 3: They were a baby. I'm not extreme. I knew that
would get you. I know, would do that. There are
people guilty, Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, there's people.
Speaker 4: But my point is, like, does the kid even remember
that incident? Probably not, but the trauma is in them
and it.
Speaker 3: Fucks you up.
Speaker 5: It just does, I would think.
Speaker 3: So it just does that.
Speaker 5: That that burns for life, That's my point. And the
scars run deep, and I think those things drive that
other stuff.
Speaker 3: That was my only point with that. And I and I.
Speaker 4: Go, look, you're a guy who has probably been around
a lot of people that could be classified as addicts.
Speaker 3: That's into something. Oh, I'm just thinking bars, you strip club.
Don't tell me. Some of those ladies and have some.
Speaker 5: Boger sugar problems.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, but either way, and by the way, drugs and
alcohol make you feel fucking great.
Speaker 3: And they're fun, bill ma fun.
Speaker 5: You know those runways in the airport where they're the
they're the laying escalators. They're they're just movable. I mean,
he goes, that's what drug is. Drugs are you stand
on there and you're just going through life nice and easy,
and then all of a sudden you have to walk
and it wakes you up and then you're back to reality. Right,
so right, I've tried. It doesn't really doesn't, doesn't. It
makes me lose all track of time, which I don't
like because I try to keep.
Speaker 4: Well, you're not in control, you like. And I don't
mean that like you let you're a control freak, dug. No,
I just mean you're not in control you like.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I like the pace of beer and liquor to know
where I'm going too. And then I'm like, okay, yeah,
a couple more shots, and I gotta go a.
Speaker 3: Couple more shots. I gotta go.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, Dougie friend has got a livered and
sits on the stool next to him.
Speaker 3: Hey, Doug, who's your black friend? It's my liver.
Speaker 5: They regenerate Bill. You should know, mister Guinness.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 4: But that's that's why I keep bitching, Like you know,
you gave a great example of a ninety year old
man who came into the bar often right. He knew
his order, he knew his thing, he was comfortable there.
That was his social scene. It's so important to have
social connections to stay alive. That's where I go. This
is where the pandemic fucked us. And I think there's
a generation that's coming up that they just learned to.
Speaker 5: Be alone with these right, But they just learned to
for the pandemic because you couldn't go out.
Speaker 3: No, I agree, even.
Speaker 5: Before I guess I have a friend and this had
to be seventy years ago. He goes my son, he's
twenty four, he's got to get a job. He doesn't
know how to interact with people. All he does is texts. Yeah,
and now he's just kidding baut that is able to talk,
that's true, but trying to talk.
Speaker 4: Right and that, And I'm it's not wrong. But if
you think back, the pandemic was seven years ago?
Speaker 3: Was it seven years ago? Twenty nineteen is really really
kind of hit in right or no?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was twenty nineteen when it came in
that spring, it was the end of March, and then
I thought, oh no, no, no, twenty twenty twenty, twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: So you're are years six years ago.
Speaker 4: I mean that's when we really hit, was March at
twenty twenty, when they started shutting down stuff where we
are And you go, okay, so I'm seventeen, eighteen years old.
Speaker 3: I can't go to bars already.
Speaker 4: But you couldn't even go to coffee shops where a
lot of kids do hang out, do they really?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, well, if I go into a certain.
Speaker 5: I mean there's no more arcades, I mean, movie theaters,
the mall, the malls are gone, there's East View and
Grease Ride.
Speaker 4: Well, you're right, all those third party places that you
would meet are not there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think the coffee shops are a place
where I see a lot of kids.
Speaker 4: You know, sitting around tables last talk. And you don't
fucking go into coffee shops. You go and get your
coffee and you fucking leave. When have you sat in
a coffee shop? You don't do that. I guarantee you don't.
And I'm not saying to me at me. I'm not
yelling at you because it sounds like me telling you,
because I know you you're like me.
Speaker 3: I don't want to sit there. I'll get my fucking
coffee and go. I want to look at you. Right.
That's very social.
Speaker 4: But my point is I just think that that's shut down,
and these kids now it's just better to just be
alone or be home.
Speaker 5: What was the last week I went in there? You
went in where I went into dunkin Donuts because I
was a knucklehead and didn't I.
Speaker 3: Passed a lot of times.
Speaker 4: Dunkin Donuts too are and they're trying to set up
as cafes, the ones that are free standing. There's a
dunkin Donuts here, but it's in like a convenience store.
Speaker 5: Yes, that was the one I was at, and there's
no place to sit there.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: I went in, I go hey, and the young girls
are out pointing to me. I go, yeah, I missed
the the takeout window. Don't ask me how. And there's
a song playing and it was end this and hit
my bitch and yeah, and uh, I go, uh god,
oh gosh, I love this song. I can't think of
the name of it. What is it? And she hits
her phone and she told me, and uh, I go thanks,
And I sit in my car waiting outside. I can't
find it. But I'm reading the lyrics and I'm like,
it's nothing to them that decency. If you had your grandmother,
your kids are just I hit my grandma. You know
somebody were alive that was not traumatized. Yes, what's the
word I'm looking date?
Speaker 3: Raped?
Speaker 5: No, seduced, sex, traffic to feel disrespected?
Speaker 3: Then oh yeah, something like that. Sure, yeah, no, this
isn't it better? Notes? You're you're terrible notes.
Speaker 5: It's in my delete file.
Speaker 3: Dog's got a nice dog, fancy. I like you. It's
the nicest shirt I've ever seen you wear.
Speaker 5: Well, it's a nice day out.
Speaker 3: No, I know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I saw you got elbow patches on there. God, I've
got a little brown on the outside.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna look for this song and.
Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna take well, we'll take a moment.
I wanted to talk about. Uh, I learned something. I
learned something about a religion that I had no idea.
Speaker 5: I'm not good with religion.
Speaker 3: No, you'll know this one. Okay.
Speaker 5: I got some religious stokes. Are we allowed to tell those?
Probably not.
Speaker 3: You can do anything in Doug. I uh to say
the opinions of Doug are.
Speaker 5: Not fire right?
Speaker 3: All right, we'll get to that right after this.
Speaker 4: Ever, look at your wall and think, hmm, that hole
definitely wasn't there yesterday, Or maybe your faucet's got a
drip that's slowly driving you into madness. That's when you
got to call my buddies at Mac of All Trades
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Speaker 5: Good afternoon, you lucky dogs. It is Saturday sixty two
degrees here in rod Shadshah. You got the one, the only,
the hips shaking, money making tower of power, Man of
the hour twenty four to seven, the one your mother
warn you about. Dougie Freshman os.
Speaker 7: Next to me is always the man, the miss, the
legend all the way from Alabama, Bamlama six foot two
in as of blue, little sweet, little sexy mister Bemra.
Speaker 4: There he is, Dougie fresh laying it down, Dougie Freshcat.
Speaker 5: The only reason he invites me back.
Speaker 3: No, that is not true.
Speaker 4: I said I was busting Doug's ball so hard because
Doug wanted to go get a cup of coffee.
Speaker 3: And so he's walking out of the studio.
Speaker 4: Trips over a chord that that had to one of
the lights for the new lighting. It's seriously, hang on
a second. The lighting isn't right. So I have I
have somebody. Yes, I'm going to have somebody come in.
And I haven't made the call yet, but I have
a meeting after this podcast about the lighting in the studio.
Speaker 3: I've been getting not yelled at.
Speaker 4: I just suggested that we do it this way, and
I think it probably looks better. You look great on
my screen, cool yeah. I mean wow, I'm like, god damn,
it's normally Shrek and here it is.
Speaker 3: No. But then we.
Speaker 5: Went from Shrek to Shredded. That would be a great credit.
Speaker 3: We dude, if you did that online Shrek to Shredded
and you like, it's your whole process though, whatever you
do right, and then you just keep track of it
and you sell it to people.
Speaker 5: My next move is to get I'll tell you this,
just to get a gig audio is an Olympic bench bar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, forty five pounds. Oh, good for you. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 5: Then Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 4: I think, say, a Facebook marketplace is a great thing
because so many times every one of us buy shit
that we just never use, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean.
Speaker 4: Or we just have so much stuff so much and
you just don't need all that stuff, And I think,
why buy it new if you can get it absolutely,
you know what I mean. I was looking for a bookshelf.
I was like, I don't.
Speaker 5: Want I got two corner shelves for my house. Yeah,
we're in Blackport and my buddy lives there or he
travels there a lot. Yeah, we got him in a
great additions well s.
Speaker 3: The thing is this, like I don't want to. I
don't want to.
Speaker 4: It's a book shelf, right, but I don't want a
piece of shit and a brand new thing is. And
I also don't want to spend five hundred dollars on
the bookcase a bookshelf, so I'd rather have one that's
made of wood. It didn't cost me one hundred and
fifty dollars that I had to assemble myself and curse
and fucking have three screws left over and go.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I kiya, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like that stuff and they're nice, but they just there's
something chintzy about them.
Speaker 3: I want a real wood one.
Speaker 4: And I find marketplace I look every once in a while,
I find a few.
Speaker 5: Hey, I had a question for you, and this is
a serious question.
Speaker 3: You're my god, don't why dog serious? Well?
Speaker 5: You wanted to do some content that would.
Speaker 3: Be yes, I did I do five years down the well.
Speaker 4: What I said to Doug was, I'd like, if someone
finds this, I want all the podcasts to have some
value still down the line and funny and funny funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Doug in his existential crisis with.
Speaker 5: The Hulk smash, but I was thinking of some topics.
One of which I was thinking is the Pledge of
allegiance and what about it? We don't say it anymore
right in school?
Speaker 3: Yeah? They do?
Speaker 5: They do? They do in near class.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh, I thought we got away from that.
Speaker 3: What the fuck do you know?
Speaker 5: That's why I'm asking a question, because they didn't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, they it is and they at least where
I am, they do it okay, yeah every day, Yeah,
every day over the Laud school.
Speaker 5: I thought they got rid of that for some reason.
Speaker 4: No, I was in two or three different They did
it in the high school.
Speaker 3: They did it in an elementary school. I was at
last year.
Speaker 4: They do it in an elementary school. I'm in this year, okay,
and I am mistaken. No, it's it's a are you
hearing that?
Speaker 5: I thought it was a controversial thing that we got
rid of. I mean, but something in the news years ago,
because you were saying about content something fat No, no, no, no,
So I thought it was out of schools.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I can only tell you that from where I am and.
Speaker 3: Where I think my kid did they do do it
every day? I don't. There may be places I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying you're not you may not be. I'm
just saying I'm not familiar with though, so I can't
after the bread, I can't really comment. But here's something
Doug but that I find very interesting.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know we there's the whole Iranian thing that's
happening right now. There is Yeah, what a couple of BOMs.
Speaker 5: Oh, but that's.
Speaker 4: Not what I didn't want to really go there. Apparently
the son of the Supreme leader who was killed is
rumored to take.
Speaker 5: Over Okay, family business.
Speaker 4: Family business, and there was this whole article on him
and the infinitcy that he experienced that they had to
go to England for a number of sessions.
Speaker 3: I would assume I think he went twice, uh for.
Speaker 5: To get a stick in the well.
Speaker 3: I don't know that. I don't know.
Speaker 5: And this is the important world culture we're talking about
five years later.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because it's interesting in that.
Speaker 5: It's so year that somebody finds your files. We're going
to find out if this guy can get it high
out by himself.
Speaker 4: It's so shaming to people, it's so shaming to men
like you. You start looking at what is really behind
the impotency. We can say age when there's the Viagara
and stuff like that. See, I don't know how old.
I think he is older. But that's not one of
the most interesting parts of this. What I didn't realize
was they have they have something that we don't have
here in the United States. I've never heard of. Well
there's that, but I've never heard of this. They have
temporary marriages. Wow, okay, so think of it as a caronal.
I was gonna say, yes, yeah, you could say that.
I was going to say, training.
Speaker 5: Camp white and seven years later, I'll take the one
in black.
Speaker 3: Honey, it's not cheating.
Speaker 5: Got red, I got brown, right, It's like I got
an suv, I got a convertible, I got it all.
I got a passing your van. For all my buddies,
it's give me the dump truck.
Speaker 3: Eye. But they do this to you want the dump truck.
Speaker 5: Only for seven years? Get tired of it.
Speaker 3: Oh you get tired of that dump truck in five buddy,
But you know what the trade in value.
Speaker 4: No one wants it. No one wants it. You should
try to get rid of that dump truck. Oh my god, fucked.
Speaker 3: Doug's here with her again? Is there a buffaid? To
shut up.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize this. So Iran is I believe the
primary religion is Muslim and what's Iraq?
Speaker 5: Because they're always fighting about religion over there. I mean
that's been forever. H isn't there main course why they
don't like each other different?
Speaker 3: Iran and Iraq seem to be okay, it's it's right now.
Speaker 4: It's Iran in Jerusalem and Israel that has the big
issue because.
Speaker 5: Jewish, yeah, Christian, there's no Christians over there?
Speaker 3: Is there There's could be, there could be.
Speaker 4: But I mean the majority, I think the majority is Muslim.
I don't know that they're fighting over that. I think
it's more about land and territory in Israel and even
Gandhi days, Uh well.
Speaker 3: Gandhi was India.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I know that, but this is I think
this is more about territory. And then Iraq is getting
involved in Palestine versus Jerusalem or versus Israel, and so
it's all that stuff. But the thing that I found
interesting was this temporary marriage. And they do it, they
may they do it to get around a religious law.
Speaker 3: So it's like law, so.
Speaker 5: You can have a temporary marriage. And I go, that's
for how long. I mean, it's your own. I don't
let's be married for a week a month, you know,
marry me so you can get my assurance.
Speaker 4: I don't know, let me see, because I I I
didn't have enough time to really dig into it, but
it jumped out of the page to me when it
said he had two temporary marriages this guy, and you go, okay,
and then he was older when he got married and
he couldn't have kids, and the inpotacy. They were just
trying to make that a big deal in this article,
that the infancy and then he had to go to
England and all these things. And all I'm thinking is
that is a big shaming thing for a lot of men, especially.
Speaker 5: I would not shame anybody for them for infinitcy.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I don't think that.
Speaker 4: People talk about it, but it's self shame, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5: You think I would use the word shame though you
wouldn't know.
Speaker 3: Like if you're with the woman.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: I know, I know that's not That's not how I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: I told you to get up on the fucker. No
shame in that.
Speaker 4: I'm so embarrassed that I you know, like I almost
shrink away. You avoid attempts at relations because you're ashamed
that your dick may may not work right, and you're
hoping that whoever's they're on the receiving end of your
heat seeking moisture missile will will be understanding right now.
A lot of times that stuff happens with old I
don't know what kind of thing this guy went through
and that was their big deal. But the fascinating part
to me is you had two temporary marriages, probably during
your prime sex years. But do you say to these women,
I'm not going to have children with you. Are there
people who have had children out of what was deemed
a temporary marriage? But it's a way to get around
and just feed the biological monster of sex that's to
be eaten, all of it. No, no, no, In that religion,
basically it's like you can't have sex unless you're married.
Speaker 3: Oh gotcha, So here's a way around it.
Speaker 5: No premarial sex over and Iran.
Speaker 4: I don't know, well, I'm not saying iron I'm saying
in the Muslim faith, I'm not familiar enough to know,
but I think that's it.
Speaker 5: I know, so now they get by laws in a
Muslim face.
Speaker 4: Well, this is a weird thing. I did not know
this a temporary marriage. I find it fascinating. I find
that fascinating, and I wanted.
Speaker 5: If you can have a temporary marriage two years?
Speaker 3: Umm, well I used to.
Speaker 5: I think that's the longest my relationship has been with
a woman is boyfriend girlfriend is two years?
Speaker 3: That's your longest? Really?
Speaker 5: Now, what are you looking at that for?
Speaker 3: Huh? Huh? What are you thinking about?
Speaker 5: You gotta look at your face. I can tell what. Yeah,
I surprise, Okay.
Speaker 4: You don't want to put up with someone that you
and I guarantee it was all you. I guarantee every
relationship ended because of you.
Speaker 3: Am I wrong? Who ended them?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: I think I did?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: One just fell out of fell out of earth. I
didn't know what happened to her. I think she was
looking for marriage. She just disappeared and I was cheating
at another girl.
Speaker 3: But there you go, that's awesome. I was she was.
Speaker 4: A temporary marriage is known as a nika muta a
pleasure marriage. It's known as a pleasure marriage. This is
strictly for sex or and it's a private contract based
time limited marriage. Recognized primarily in a certain sect of
Islamism or Islam.
Speaker 5: So you're not gonna be able to do it here
in the States.
Speaker 4: No, but I'm just going it requires a stipulated duration
and a dowry expiring automatically without divorce.
Speaker 5: So you're paying somebody to sleep with you.
Speaker 3: Well sure sounds like that.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, it is that a dowry, while historically permitted
as a payment early in Islam. I mean, you're not
giving her a cow and a chicken and getting into bed.
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, but it is considered forbidden by Sunny scholars. Now,
the interesting thing.
Speaker 5: Is the supreme scholars s U n and I. Uh,
I thought I thought professors of New York State.
Speaker 4: Might be saying that reading it, you are, I know,
and I may be mispronouncing that, s U n and I.
I said, soony, but it could be SNY or Sunny case.
Speaker 3: I'm moving to Cortland. Yeah, it's I find this. So
a contract is made for a specific period from hours
to years. You're right, you could. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna
convertible for the day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like enterprise. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna be married
for twenty four hours. Here's your dowry. Yeah, eleven thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: A woman gives herself in marriage for an agreed dowry
and then must include a clear duration and a dowry.
It does not traditionally require witnesses, and partners do not
inherit from each other unless specified in the contract. So
you could say, you know, ending the marriage. The marriage
automatically dissolves when the time that it expires.
Speaker 3: What if you actually fell in love? Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 4: And I used to kind of joke with people, what
or maybe somebody else joked tonight.
Speaker 5: Just like a lease. I mean, they give it to
you for a year. Do you want to buy it
out right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Or no, I want to trade in for something else.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: So here's the rights and children part. Remember I said
to you how to these people because it sounds like
it's young guys who are horny and young people. And
I want to say that women get horny too looking
to have sex, but they can't under religious conditions. So
in this one sect of Islam, you can do this.
Women may specify conditions. Children born from this union are
legitimate and the re responsibility of the father.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, permissible and considered a mercy in certain
situations of need. Majority of views told that it was
permitted early on, but later uh deemed invalid.
Speaker 5: Now I haven't heard anything about oil tycoons or anything
over in sand Land or whatever it is. But I
mean the harems where you might have twelve wives and
like fifty kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't that's true too, But I don't think
that that's Islam. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't like I make different religions. I don't definitely right,
there were harems.
Speaker 5: There were harems, Prince of Egypt or prince of this
or you know, people of money. Sure, what was the
Mormons and uh utah, Yeah, where you could have more
than one way? Well that was uh think that that's
so legal?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 5: Are you sure?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Because I think they had to have their own residents,
their own house, so you could have four wives living together.
Speaker 3: An it's hard. I'll give you two thoughts on this.
Speaker 4: It's hard because we have freedom of religion. So if
this is my religious practice, then how can you deem
how can you tell me it's wrong? It's wrong by
the government, right, So, I I don't know. I thought
it was deemed illegal and to have multiple wives, even
for me, yeah, even for religious purposes. But that that
becomes like a slippery slope. And it is interesting when
you hear, you know, certain religions beat up or or
I'll say, like just despised in the media things. And
I often think, like, I know nothing really about Scientology,
and we've all heard the bad stuff, and there's people
who've been in it, and Sidney anounce this, that and
the other thing. And Tom Cruise is certainly I guess
he's not necessarily a spokesperson. I've never heard him say
anything about Scientology that would try to recruit you.
Speaker 3: Is my point.
Speaker 4: He's not being an evangelist about that.
Speaker 5: I know Nicole Kidman had to get a lawyer to
get out of Scientology.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is like, okay, but boy, we
really bash it. But you have the right to freedom,
and I guess you have the right to say those
things too. It's just interesting to me how that all
goes down.
Speaker 5: I remember years ago, it was huge, they had a
huge win that they're recognized as a religion for text
purposes or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, but this is like forty years ago.
Speaker 3: I thought, Okay, well, that makes sense.
Speaker 5: I have to look it up and they are they
are the Church.
Speaker 4: Of Scientology, Mormons or another one. I'm sure there's other
things that I don't know. I think David koresh Was
had his own religion that member bat the Waco and
the whole thing that went on, and that was of
a religious purpose. Jim Jones was of a religious thing,
but he didn't drink the kool aid. Thus we got
this to the phrase drink the kool aid. And it's just, uh,
I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just always remember, yeah, you heard that's word. If
you ever get in trouble, sanctuary, you just run into
a church, yees sanctuary and by religious law, you can
live there for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: My religious law, I don't know that.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think the police can come in and
get you.
Speaker 3: Oh well, they may not be able to.
Speaker 5: Wasn't that Nelson Mandela he sanctuary where he was some
religious leader and they were waiting for him to come out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Mandela was a was a political leader.
Speaker 5: Again years ago.
Speaker 3: I did have to look it up. Yeah, I don't
either way.
Speaker 4: I just find this fascinating that there's a religion out
there and here's the thing that.
Speaker 3: I fucking love. I don't love. Let me even fix that.
I don't want to love.
Speaker 4: The ethical debate is Proponents argue it protects against fornication
and empowers women to set terms, so the women get
to say, here's my dowry, I'll be with you, but
it's five years uh, while critics argue it's prone to exploitation,
creates uncertainty for children that would be, and breaks down
family structure.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: All I know is that is a big one.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, sure, that's a great point, right, I mean,
we see that. But I find it very interesting that
the Supreme Leader's son had two temporary marriages, and I go.
Speaker 5: That he should have went to the doctor. That just
yanks on your crank, see if that would fix things.
Speaker 3: That's it's so weird. I go. But religion, all the religion.
Speaker 5: You get out of everything with the religion. Wow, you do.
I gotta say, like, there's a lot of loopholes in
the religion.
Speaker 3: Well here's the thing, Like, I'm not sure that Muhammad,
who was the founder and creator of or leader of Muslim,
I don't know if he was in favor of this stuff.
Speaker 5: How many wives did he have. I don't know how
many wives does Salomon have? Like a thousand? Right, Hey,
I got her around.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing that's so interesting, is I go, boy,
they it's religion is by men to get late in
a certain way, right to get laid legally.
Speaker 3: They put in temporary marriages.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you this, uh Rastafarian is a second Rastafarian.
Speaker 5: One of the teenage Ninja turtles. A little lost on that.
Speaker 4: He's it's one of the sects of Judaism, right of
Jewish faith. But I'm pretty sure that like Bob Marley
and these others, they found a way to tweak it
enough that there's something in there that they can have
sex with young women. You have to dig in deeper
on that one, but I'm pretty sure it's there.
Speaker 3: And I go, this is all guys trying to find
a way to make it just to get that's all. Hey.
I don't want to be I don't want to be
looking bad at my religion, but I want to get
my dig sucked. And that's I think that that's it.
Speaker 5: I haven't been to church in a long time, but.
Speaker 3: And and you haven't had your dig suck. No, I
don't know three weeks. Wow, look at you.
Speaker 5: Well, I gave it up for Lanta. Go now that
if an opportunity arises, and if I arise, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Good for you.
Speaker 5: Now you were raised Catholic.
Speaker 3: Right I wasn't. I was I ever tell you that
weird story?
Speaker 5: No, I just want to know it. Did you give
anything up for Lent? Do you even think about that?
Speaker 3: I don't know, No, I do. I used to sometimes.
My son is very Catholic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the boys weren't raised Catholic, but he when
Jordan went to Catholic school, and then my son Jackson
does go to Catholic church every Sunday and he uh
went to Saint Patrick's Cathedral for ash Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Nice in New York.
Speaker 4: But no, I was Catholic, Yes, very Irish Catholic family
until I was seven. And my father had been in
the seminary and then laught got kind of kicked out
of it and.
Speaker 5: Uh winding to beat up a priest or something like that.
Speaker 4: No, he put a Litz cigarette in the Virgin Mary's hands.
Speaker 3: He did. He would brag about it, like, here's the
thing that I was I got. You can'tt me go
all over the place.
Speaker 5: But the things focus on what you want.
Speaker 4: No, No, the things that as parents that you say in
passing that.
Speaker 3: Are I mean, these sounded like great stories. When he
said he put the a lit cigarette in the Virgin
Mary's fingers, I'm like, this is fucking great, Like right,
So what am I going to do?
Speaker 4: You just gave me permission to be a complete asshole
without saying anything.
Speaker 3: All you did was tell me a story about you.
I did do is I didn't get that.
Speaker 4: I didn't get that. What I used to get was,
I don't know you, but I know your father. My
father would say this to me, I don't know you,
but I know I know your father. And whatever I
would do, I always think you're probably gonna do doing
dance because you raised me by telling these fucking ASoP
fables about that.
Speaker 3: He would say to me all the time.
Speaker 4: When his brother went into the navy, they had some
shitty apartment in Brooklyn, and then my grandparents bought a
house down in New Jersey that was going to be
their weekend house by the ocean and all this They
would leave for that, and he goes, yeah, I would
wait by the phone at eleven o'clock. They would call
I was like sixteen, and they'd go, are you going
to bed? And he'd like, yep, going to bed, and
he'd hang up and out he went for the rest
of the night, in the night of the New York
City night life, and he would brag to you about.
Speaker 3: This, like that's what I did. So you thought, well,
that's what I got to do. That's fucking amazing. Oh
my god, is it three or five?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the meaning I was supposed to have. Yeah,
I'm just gonna say, give me a half hour ups.
Speaker 5: For the lighting. Yeah, turn the life down low?
Speaker 3: Oh shit, okay.
Speaker 4: So there was that, and then what was I starting to? Oh,
the religious things. So I was raised Catholic until the
age of seven when my parents decided philosophically that they
weren't getting enough out of the church. It was too much,
not enough Bible based. And my father I found this
out after he died. My brother knew it. I didn't know.
Speaker 3: He wrote a resignation letter.
Speaker 5: To the church.
Speaker 3: To the Catholic Church. He wrote a resignation. I would
love to fucking read the thing. Where is it? Who
did he send it to? How do I find it you.
Speaker 5: I don't the I don't know. I'm had master, but.
Speaker 3: Who would have it?
Speaker 4: He wrote it to the little church that we went to, like,
I don't know if he wrote it to the priest there.
Speaker 3: I'm going somebody had to get this letter. Yeah, I
would love to read that.
Speaker 5: I would write the church. I don't think they throw
anything out. Well, I don't know that for sure. I know, oh,
I know people have gotten married and they had to
write the whatever the sin? God is the head in Rome? Right, Oh,
I'm getting married for the third time. This is my
future wife. She is now in the church, and get
permission from the church. It was his whole like an
ordeal that seemed like bullshit to me. Still does.
Speaker 3: It's a moneymaker, Yeah, that was what it felt like.
But so he wrote this. I would love to read that.
Speaker 4: And then it was such a big deal in my
family that my grandfather, my mom's dad wouldn't talk to
her for a year because don't forget that Southern Ireland
was Catholic, Northern Ireland was Protestant.
Speaker 5: We went to again fighting over the religion. Went to
like a Quaker based Protestant religion is supposed to be
loving it together and not to be canaan Abel. But
if you like them and I like them and we're
getting it.
Speaker 4: I always think, and people argue with me through history
when I go King Henry the eighth had a bunch
of wives and he wanted to f yes, wanted to
when he wanted to bang a new one. He changed
the entire religion of the country. Yes, they went from
Catholicism to Protestantism or something of that age.
Speaker 3: Northern Ireland went, and Southern Ireland goes, fuck that, we're
staying this way. And that's how that all started. Yeah,
And it became such a big.
Speaker 4: Deal that years later here in the United States, my grandfather,
first generation American from Ireland, would not talk to his
own daughter for a year because she switched religions to Protestantism.
Speaker 3: And that was that was.
Speaker 4: Nothing, nothing. It was ridiculous. My grandmother used to corner
me and.
Speaker 3: Go, do they do you have communion?
Speaker 4: And I said, yeah, they do it like once once
a month to drive. And I swear to God, she
thought they were sacrificing goats and small children.
Speaker 3: I don't know what called that ship.
Speaker 4: All right, we'll uh, well, we'll take a break and uh, God,
to tell you about the mayor of Sluttown.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I think you like this one. Anything with
slut I love sluts. They're awesome and they are great.
Speaker 4: Hey needs sluts. I had a high school teacher. I
had a high school teacher who was so my favorite
teacher ever. And he overheard some kids and somebody goes, oh.
Speaker 3: She's such a slut.
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Speaker 6: Now, round number four.
Speaker 5: Like it was before. Baby, open that door, and don't
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We're not Batman Robbin, we're not even Lois Lane and Clarkhead,
but we are Bill Moran.
Speaker 3: If you would definitely be Lowis, yes, I would, and
I would have to be Clark.
Speaker 5: Well, you're taller and you wear glasses.
Speaker 3: I did wear glasses for a while. Yeah, I haven't
worn a long time.
Speaker 4: Yes, all right, Doug, Yes, sluts. Well, there's a mayor.
There's a mayor in Louisiana.
Speaker 5: We're moving. We're gonna take the Bill fight out of
the road.
Speaker 4: Who allegedly had sex with a sixteen year old who
has been at her own kid's birthday party.
Speaker 5: Wow, and yet that doesn't surprise pool.
Speaker 4: Party, kids everywhere, She's in an orange bikini, and apparently
there was zero adult supervision, including herself. At a certain point,
I was thinking, they just do need to rename the
town Sluttville, right, yeah, population one mayor and co horrified teens.
But this was a child's birthday party, and somehow it
does end up in an episode or becomes an.
Speaker 3: Episode of cops. It's a weird.
Speaker 4: The whole thing is weird because apparently, like this kid's
parents worked for the town or in the mayor's office.
But there were everybody at this party. You could only
imagine how this unfolded. She had to be drinking.
Speaker 5: Now she's sixteen, new.
Speaker 3: She's forty three, she's the mayor.
Speaker 5: Oh who's sixteen? The guys, the boy oh yeah, so
and there's people there.
Speaker 3: It's a it's her son's birthday party.
Speaker 5: Okay, I thought it was just those two kids.
Speaker 3: It's her son's birthday party, okay, who is also about fifteen,
sixteen years old?
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I thought it.
Speaker 4: So mom is out in the check Mom's having obviously
is drinking, right, and then she says, people say, because
I'm reading this article, and it's so funny because you
could picture it, and I would be so fat If
I were a kid, I'd be like, this is fucking
amazing watching the mom hit on the kid and she's like, oh,
she like touched his.
Speaker 3: Chest and wow, you you you must work out. I mean,
all this shit's being said, right, And if I saw
one of my buddies, I'd be like, I like.
Speaker 5: Yes, now if the shoes on the other foot.
Speaker 3: I might get uncomfortable because I was weird back then.
Speaker 5: As a child, I was very very I I mean
as an adult, yeah, sideway, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. Yeah, as an adult. But so
this kidd, uh.
Speaker 4: They wind up going in a bedroom and apparently the
window was open or had not open. I don't want
to say that, but but like you.
Speaker 3: Could see through a little bit that her own son
got video of her on top of this guy grinding away.
Speaker 5: I'm going to videotape my mom well banging.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure the kid was like horrified and mad,
and what do you do when you're mad?
Speaker 5: Now, videotape videotape, And so you just videotaped. That's all
anybody does any kind of accident. He's bleeding to death. No,
I gotta get on video and then I'll call nine
one one. I only have so many, you know, I'm
almost at five percent. Either call nine one want to
get a video. That's what it comes down to. And
what do people do with these videos?
Speaker 4: I don't know whether they put them up on there's
the whole pages dedicated.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I don't know.
Speaker 5: Get stuck watching him. It's like a train wreck. You
just can't turn away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how is your birthday? The cake was good, but
mom committed a felony.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: But here's the real thing, because this is where I
want to bring it back to. And you sort of
touched on this just naturally because you are Dougie Fresh,
And that was the idea that the alcohol addiction is
a disease, right, we say drug addiction is a disease.
Food addiction, I think is even determined by something to
be a disease. But when someone behaves like this, we
don't say disease. We don't refer to sex addiction, which
is a real diagnosis.
Speaker 5: Sex adic y.
Speaker 3: Yes, sex addicts right as a disease.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that that could be used here, but
that what we say is that person shouldn't even be
in charge of a fucking toaster.
Speaker 5: Is her name Misty Roberts?
Speaker 4: Was she the Louisiana Yeah? Mayor does her name come
up as that?
Speaker 5: It says Misty Robberts found guilty of having sex with
teen but it was three days ago?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh sure, I would think so, Misty Roberts. I mean,
if that doesn't start getting your dick card, nothing will.
I mean, she's forty five.
Speaker 3: She was forty five? Forty five? Right?
Speaker 4: I said forty three? I couldn't remember, and I oh
the point of this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a good looking woman.
Speaker 3: She is a good looking woman.
Speaker 4: But it's embarrassing when your mom is the talk of
the town. You got to I would be so relentless
to this kid who's her son. In school, I'd be
going all the time, like, hey, man, I want to
come over.
Speaker 5: Can you be my lab partner for science? Hey listen,
I heard to bring my Bunsen burner over for your mom.
How many I did this?
Speaker 3: In college?
Speaker 4: Some kid had a really hot mom. I used to
tease him all the time about. I would always go, hey,
when's your mom coming up?
Speaker 3: I'd run into his.
Speaker 4: Room pick up sniff the couch coach. I would be
doing all that shit to this kid. It would be
relentless and mean. But I would just be doing when
did you go out of that?
Speaker 3: I haven't. Okay, I never did. I still would do it.
I still do it. I still do that kind of
stuff if if I know the people want, right, you know,
all kinds of silly.
Speaker 5: Just to make him feel uncomfortable, well, just to have that.
Speaker 3: But but here's here's the serious part of this is
like somewhere.
Speaker 5: Between I'm about to put deviled eggs on my dating
profile and this forty five year old in Louisiana is
banging a sixteen year old. Where is the world fair
for me? You know, I'm trying to put up whatever pictures, say,
whatever I can to try to get a coffee day,
and this forty five year.
Speaker 4: Old woman is now maybe need to go interview a
couple of sixteen year olds and figure out what what
do they have?
Speaker 3: No? No sixteen year old guys going hey, hey, I
hear you're banging the ladies. I want to bang. How
do I get in the mix?
Speaker 5: Now? What's this due to this kid? For the rest
of his life?
Speaker 3: I don't know? You know, because his mom's saying, Okay,
so this is like, I.
Speaker 5: Think, do you think he's gonna think every woman is
just gonna want to jump his ball like that one?
Is that going to give him a misinterpretation of the
women he meets down the line?
Speaker 3: It might.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying those are all really valid questions. They are.
Here's my thing when I read the article. I'm reading
the article and the kid's mom is going on about
how horrified he was and blah blah blah, and they
didn't were uncomfortable saying anything because they all worked for
her and was and it got acknowledged and the videos
were circulated town and all this shit.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: The video has got to be out there somewhere circulated.
Speaker 4: If it's out there, I think it was on social media.
Could have been a Snapchat thing, which I'm not saying
it ever really goes away, but it's harder to.
Speaker 3: Find because it disappears. That's part of Snapchat's appeal. But
I don't know.
Speaker 4: I would say, just like anything in life, everything's different.
Every person is different. So did this really horrify this kid?
Speaker 3: Or is he just.
Speaker 4: Playing it up because mom and dad are there and
they're fucking out of their mind, right, and I gotta go, oh.
Speaker 3: My god, you wouldn't believe she came. She took her big, succulent,
well rounded breast and just beat me about the head.
You know what I mean. I mean, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, you just have something. Could it be that
the kid is yes?
Speaker 4: Could it also be that the kid is now ashamed
because mom and dad are fucking flipping out about it,
and the whole town's flipping out.
Speaker 3: And this, ladies, how long.
Speaker 5: Before you stop talking about it? A month, a year,
two years ago?
Speaker 3: Oh? No, You're always known as the kid that Tommy
would move.
Speaker 5: You'd be like.
Speaker 4: Tommy, Tommy and his family was slept. Mom probably should, yeah,
the other family probably not.
Speaker 5: Right, So the kids, they're stuck with everybody knowing that
he banged the mayor. Yeah, not that he got yeah,
but the first place.
Speaker 4: But by the way, is that here's the thing, is
like I sometimes understand the argument of horny guys. To
your point, it is horny guy, well, horny guys, but
power manipulation. She has the power of manipulation. She's a
forty five year old woman. She's got stuff. She might
apply them with booze in the hot tub or whatever,
loosen things up.
Speaker 5: What are you thinking when I you know, Oh, well
that's a fair question.
Speaker 4: You know, that's a great question because knowing everything away, yes,
for a minor, you know, you couldn't just wait two
years lady, and he would have I think I.
Speaker 5: Told you I DJed a party and the parent had
the kids drinking or it was open bar for kids too.
I'm like, these kids now, all the parents know each other,
everybody's fine with them. Like, are you sure, because if
somebody leaves in a car and gets killed, you're going.
Speaker 4: To fucking jazz. Well that's true, but you're allowed to
you are allowed. Well, you're only allowed to serve alcohol
to your own kids in your house. No, this is no, no, No,
I know that there's fifty kids, but I think if so, if.
Speaker 3: The other parents are there and they're.
Speaker 5: Okay, well we were all there, trust me, Well.
Speaker 3: But just one parent. No, there weren't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there were parents, but not everybody's parents. I don't
think everybody. It wasn't equal equal. Yeah, there was more
kids than parents.
Speaker 4: Why you gotta blow my cover? No, I'm just no. Look,
did I ever tell you this story. I went to
a after prom party and it was my friend Chad,
and his mom allowed everybody to drink and do all
this shit. And my father found out I was there,
and he wrote her a note saying and mailed it,
and it got all around school that my father wrote
a note to Chad's mom saying if you uh, he
wasn't saying don't throw a party, but you are not
to allow my son into the party.
Speaker 3: That was my father did. And uh, It's like, fuck, man,
why I got to ruin my good time?
Speaker 5: Because he's a father.
Speaker 4: My father used to say, Man, I'm not here to
ruin your good time. I'm here to keep you alive.
And I was the one who pushed the boundaries, probably
the worst out of the three of us.
Speaker 3: But it is.
Speaker 4: It is a weird thing. Like I agree with you.
I don't know how at forty five, knowing all we know,
absolutely knowing all, seeing all, yeah, seeing all this stuff.
I wouldn't say you're a minor attracted person like who
looks for younger people?
Speaker 3: But you made a really bad decision in this one
moment monumental.
Speaker 5: You're at a party, right, and I don't think anybody's gonna
be looking for you or this other kid I find
you or hear you.
Speaker 4: And I think power is the real drug in this.
You have the power to sort of coerce and bring
this kid in you know who knows and she's not unattractive, no, right,
and you know, uh.
Speaker 5: She is nut.
Speaker 4: I just sometimes if we do we remove too much
accountability by labeling some things or maybe everything as a disorder,
a sex addiction of this or that, where you almost go, well,
I can't help it because I'm an addict, but you
gotta help it.
Speaker 3: Because we're having society here and we can't allow this, do.
Speaker 4: You undersete you know what I mean? And I don't know,
but it's it's fascinating to me.
Speaker 5: Right, I am one that think brothels should be allowed,
and maybe you know, yeah, why not? The girls are
street walkers, honkers, prostitutes, escorts. It's out there.
Speaker 3: There's a way to make that more equitable for the women.
Speaker 4: In other words, like you have some ownership in the brothel,
there's something that gives you a little more power in
the situation, because it is if.
Speaker 5: You're fifty five years old, your wife died or your
divorce or something, and you do it's tough enough to
date and you want to do that discreetly, have an hour, right,
you know, go ahead and if this woman's on drugs
or something, or that's all she can do. I don't know,
right well, that all comes down to drugs. They're not
putting themselves through all.
Speaker 4: But what they would do here is to make sure
that it was if it was government sanctioned, it would
have health checks, health checks.
Speaker 3: Right and text yep.
Speaker 4: And there would also be uh ways to keep things
safer for everybody. I think, so yeah, there really would be.
I mean, I think that's a that's a very.
Speaker 5: Weed, which now I think everybody's well, at least in
my circle of people. What I hear, right, You smell
it in restaurants, right, Bill Gray, people walk in just
reeking of it. Ruins your day, ruins your meal, ruins
my car when I uber but it's legal. You can't
tell me. I'm it's legal, and you're like, yep, it is.
So it's changing your clothes and washing after you. It's
just I don't want to smell and I don't want
to contact.
Speaker 3: I know, Well, that isn't worry I do worry about
that myself. I did think about.
Speaker 5: That, you know, I told you who worries about it?
Bus drivers? Sure, little kids come out smelling of weed
that's going into the bus driver. Yeah, I mean, you
can't wait till your kids off of school. What does
that say about that?
Speaker 4: But it could be smoking the night before doing this,
be doing no. No, I'm saying you probably shouldn't be smoking
around the kids, period.
Speaker 3: That's one.
Speaker 4: But the could have been the night before and it's
so now ingrained in their clothes, do you know what
I mean? Or everything in the house starts to smell
that way. You know, you probably shouldn't smoke in an
enclosed environment.
Speaker 5: But they have the right to do it because it's legal.
Speaker 3: You do. But I hear you, I hear you, Fuddy Doddy.
I'm just saying, well, who knows. Maybe this mayor's got
a little high in the way she went misty, mister Roberts,
Steve Roberts, that's.
Speaker 5: A poor name. I don't know what it is. I'm
gonna go home and look for her, Missus Roberts, Missus Robinson.
I just watched it.
Speaker 3: But this is there was a.
Speaker 4: Porn years ago that we were in Uh Toronto, and
one of the crew that I was with comes down
and goes, hey, I watched this porn last night, Missus
de Salvo.
Speaker 3: So we went up I think it was called Missus Salvo.
I think. So we went upstairs. We had to find it.
We laugh, our fucking ass is off at the terrible
acting and all this show. You don't watch old Missus Desselva.
We were mocking this ship out of it. We're like,
how could you even get hard for this? You had
to see it.
Speaker 4: It was so bad and it was it was just funny.
It was very funny. But I don't know, banging a
sixteen year old does not.
Speaker 5: Just make you feel younger. Probably you know the adventure Now,
I've been to some parties where things have happened, and
you know, the the the thrill of being caught makes
youre adrenaline go raises a stake, so to speak. Yeah,
and that's yeah.
Speaker 3: And then the other thing is like that's where I
go where exactly does addiction?
Speaker 5: But sixteen year olds sometimes you got to say, okay,
this isn't We're.
Speaker 3: Just making a terrible decision.
Speaker 5: You know, fteen year old two years this is going
to haunt you the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: You got it.
Speaker 5: That is exactly exactly why I should go to night school.
Speaker 3: You can join me. Whoops, probably what you can join me.
I'll just say this, okay, because everything is a disease
right in a lot of places, a lot of things.
Somewhere right now in America, there's a doctor diagnosing someone
with Stage four bad decisions, right, it's gotta be if
this is.
Speaker 5: What we're doing and pulling on his crank. Yeah, um,
mister Stretcho man for Dougie Fresh.
Speaker 3: Bill Moran, will see you next time.
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