WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:03.160 All right, let's get a drive time Tuesday afternoon, twelve 2 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:07.480 minutes past the hour, two o'clock hot day outside it is, well, 3 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:09.359 you know, it's June, it's late June, it's summer, so 4 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:11.240 what can you do? And it feels like it outside. 5 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:13.919 We are looking at about eighty eight degrees in sunny 6 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:17.320 here in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah. And as it 7 00:00:17.399 --> 00:00:20.440 is every single day, it's good to have you along 8 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:22.280 for the ride. Spence Check, It's beyond to Mike Porto 9 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:25.359 Larson behind the glass producing the show today, we are 10 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:31.160 unexpectedly very very busy with some local stories, national stories 11 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:35.719 as well. It is a historic day potentially for BYU football. 12 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:39.119 We'll tell you why as the announcement came down earlier 13 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:42.000 today on the Pat McAfee Show. Pat McAfee likes himself 14 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:46.399 some BYU. BYU likes themselves some Pat McAfee several different 15 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:51.799 parallels and conclusions to draw between that relationship. But Rider Lions, 16 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:54.560 one of the best quarterbacks in his class coming up 17 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:59.600 for twenty twenty six, has chosen BYU to play his 18 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:02.960 college football at He chose BYU over Oregon. Those were 19 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:05.959 his final two schools, but he also was offered, well, 20 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:08.239 pretty much offered by everybody when you're looking at a 21 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.599 kid that is this highly thought of. BYU has not 22 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:14.120 had a five star recruit since two thousand and three. 23 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:18.079 Their best recruiting class, according to the information I was 24 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:21.200 reading earlier, was twenty ten when they were a top 25 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:23.959 thirty class. And it's not just right. They've got a 26 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:25.760 really good tight end from Saint George. They've got a 27 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:28.040 good offensive tackle as well. My guess is they're going 28 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:30.799 to finish probably in this top twenty, top twenty five. 29 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:32.920 We'll have to see what this does. So we do 30 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.519 have some local storylines to get to with the college 31 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:40.879 football recruiting stuff on the program today. Happy Tuesday to you. 32 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:44.280 Hope you're having a great work week, and we'll get 33 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:47.599 to all the fallout and take away from Ryder Lions, 34 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:50.879 this young man from California who will serve an LDS mission, 35 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.200 and then we'll be available potentially for twenty twenty seven. 36 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:58.120 So we'll get into this, and we are efforting some 37 00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:00.359 BYU guests to shed a little light on them. And 38 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:05.560 you know, ultimately six years ago, old producer of the program, 39 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:09.240 our old buddy Brady Brady Clark, who unfortunately was a 40 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:11.960 COVID casualty. He's not dead. We just had to let 41 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:15.240 him go, want to be very clear, just to be 42 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.439 just to Brady's alive and well he's married with a 43 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:21.520 child and he's moved on to do other things. But 44 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.400 he sent out a tweet and tagged me in it 45 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:27.400 that sounded like I said, he died like COVID casualty. 46 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.000 But now he's not dead, he's alive. That six years 47 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.280 ago when we first started talking about NIL and the 48 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:36.120 ability uh for these young people to make money while 49 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:40.000 they play football or other sports and institutions could be 50 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:42.400 a massive windfall for bringing young and as we fast 51 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:44.919 forward six years later, here we are now. One of 52 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.240 the things that bothers me about our business these days 53 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:49.400 is you've got a bunch of talking heads that throw 54 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:51.919 darts at dart boards and only focus on the one 55 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:54.360 thing they get right, and they ignore the forty things 56 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:57.159 that they got completely wrong. So I'm not bragging, but 57 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:00.439 ultimately it's become pretty clear that they're in a spot 58 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:03.120 down there to capitalize on the current landscape of collegian 59 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:06.840 and athletics to add to their football and basketball programs 60 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.560 and certainly other programs as well. So it is a 61 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:11.919 big day for BYU football and it is a shot 62 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:14.719 across the bow to the University of Utah. Another one. 63 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:18.479 Quite frankly, Utah continues to piece together their twenty twenty 64 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:21.039 six recruiting class. So we'll get into some of these 65 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.879 storylines on the program today. We have another trade to 66 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:26.680 talk about in the NBA. We have a couple of 67 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:29.800 trades to talk about in the NBA. Actually, as CJ. 68 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:32.560 McCollum is headed to Washington, I'm sure he's super excited 69 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:36.039 about that. Then we'll get into the Drew Holliday to 70 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:39.919 the Portland Trailblazers, mainly as we're doing Sports Soccer radio 71 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:42.599 in Salt Lake City. The Utah Jazz are not involved 72 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:46.960 in any of these transactions. For all the conversation about 73 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:49.439 you know, Brian Winhors going on Sports Center and saying 74 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:50.680 that he's told the Jazz are going to try to 75 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:54.439 expedite this process. So far, as we sit here on 76 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:56.000 the eve of Draft Day, and we'll get to some 77 00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:59.439 draft today as well, the Jazz of stad pat NBA 78 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:02.520 Draft tomorrow sorrow. Excited for this. I'll be anchoring our coverage. 79 00:04:02.879 --> 00:04:06.199 Gordy Chiasa Richard Smith, two men that have been in 80 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:09.759 hundreds of war rooms decision rooms on draftnight will help 81 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.120 us kind of understand the landscape what we'll be dealing 82 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:15.919 with tomorrow. Sham Schararni is reporting the San Antonio Spurs 83 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:21.199 have settled on Dylan Harper after some potential maybe options 84 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:23.439 to move off the pick or maybe take some other players. 85 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:28.199 Feels like the intrigue starts at four. That's my best 86 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:31.279 guess because most of the reports are VJ edgecom is 87 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:34.439 going to head to Philly at three, So we'll get 88 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:36.360 into it on the program today, get you ready for 89 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:38.160 the draft. We're also a couple of days away from 90 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:40.279 the NHL Draft to hopped on a zoom call this 91 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:46.079 morning four the Utah Mammoth. Bill Armstrong addressed the group, 92 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:49.879 talked about their plans for four. The NHL Draft will 93 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:52.879 come down coming up on Friday of this week, so 94 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:55.839 a lot to do. Aaron Rodgers whatever, He's announced that 95 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.000 this is probably it. Fine, good riddance, So a little 96 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:01.319 NFL offseason, a lot to do. On the program today, 97 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:03.639 good guest lists. We'll start things off NBA Daily Assist 98 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:07.240 style with Zach Harper. We'll get Zach's take on Durant 99 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:10.600 to the Rockets, on CJ to Washington, on Drew Holliday 100 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:13.839 to Portland, the NBA Draft tomorrow. Of course, Oklahoma City 101 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:17.639 they are championship parade today featured Alex Caruso shirtless with 102 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:20.480 a couple of michelob ultras. Chet Holgren tried to address 103 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:23.879 the group but clearly was wasted. Suret's optional for the 104 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:26.120 Oklahoma City Thunder today and their parade, So we'll get 105 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:28.920 with Zach. We'll do mostly jazz with Tim McMahon today, 106 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:31.959 jazz offseason NBA Draft. Timmy will stop buy as well 107 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:36.519 as he does every Tuesday, efforting potentially Blaine Fowler, maybe 108 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:38.879 some other BYU guests for our three thirty slot that's 109 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:41.600 open right now to talk about this day that could 110 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:45.319 be historic for Brigham Young. And then Bill Riley voiced 111 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:47.399 the youth's good day. To have Bill on, We'll talk about, 112 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:49.519 you know, kind of what this signals for what the 113 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:51.600 University of Utah needs to kind of step up and 114 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:54.360 do to keep up with their Brotherren forty miles south. 115 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:57.240 As the crow flies from our studio Dave Fox Live 116 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.360 in Studio four thirty, I'll be on TV with Dave 117 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.639 tonight ten thirty five, Cam Yu, We're gonna preview the 118 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:05.360 NFL draft, excuse me, the NBA Draft, and I imagine 119 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:07.399 we'll pop around and talk about a bunch of different 120 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:11.639 things because it's an unexpected busy Tuesday afternoon. Zach Harper, 121 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:14.360 Tim McMahon, Bill Riley, Dave Fox. Maybe some other guests 122 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:16.560 were a little fluid on this Tuesday. All of you 123 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:18.399 the great listeners, thank you for making us a part 124 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:20.120 of your day. Me Spence check Its And that guy 125 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:24.600 Porter Larson not a COVID casualty, but wearing sunglasses indoors. Hello, Porter, 126 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:27.439 how are you? Do I need to drop the Larry 127 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.439 David Lyne on you again? Yes, there are two types 128 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:34.199 of people to wear sunglasses indoors, blind people in a 129 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:36.759 holes and people sensitive to light. Well, that would fall 130 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:40.360 under the first category. It's far enough blind though, but 131 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:41.439 sensitive to site. 132 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:46.040 I probably should use the the eye I Doctor version 133 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:48.319 of our our insurance over here. 134 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:50.399 Do we have that? I think so? You might want 135 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:53.120 to check Dad, I do. I do think we do. 136 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:57.560 I do, but I'd notice it. 137 00:06:57.720 --> 00:06:59.920 I know I'm only thirty, but I've noticed some good 138 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:01.959 older with the eyes It's not like I had blind 139 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:02.199 or not. 140 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:03.240 I can't see anything. 141 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:07.360 But sometimes you know, just reading the strain on you, 142 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:09.600 it's it's getting there. 143 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:11.680 Let's getting that time, so you do what you gotta do. 144 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:15.040 I'm not judging just about prescription yet, just every time 145 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:17.519 I see somebody wearing sunglasses and doors, it just reminds 146 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:18.920 me of the Larry David line. Is this fair? 147 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:19.279 Fair? 148 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:21.519 All right? A lot to do. Our first guest the 149 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:26.000 Knickxer interviewing Mike Andry Who that's hilarious? Who's Mike and 150 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:28.399 Norrid He's the assistant coach from Minnesota that took over 151 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:32.560 on Chris Finch like towards ACL. It's just that's wild, 152 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:34.639 all right. Our first guest today will be Zach Harper. 153 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:36.519 But before we get to Zach, courtesy of our good 154 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:38.319 friends and you're good friends too at Prize Picks, it 155 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:40.160 is Todd now for your opening tip. 156 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.160 Welcome to the Drive with Spence. Check its on Utah's 157 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:46.519 number one Sports Talk. Now into the studios of ESPN 158 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:49.160 seven hundred to set the scene for the show. The 159 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:51.279 opening tip of the Drive is brought to you by 160 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:55.600 Prize Picks. Use the code ESPN seven hundred and run 161 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:57.439 your game with prize picks. 162 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.879 Big news for the YU Cougars Today, BYU is security 163 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:05.600 as highest ranked quarterback since two thousand and two. Rider 164 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:07.920 Lions on the Pad McAfee show announced that he is 165 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:12.639 headed to Provo. He chose BYU over Oregon and some 166 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:15.360 other schools, but the final two were BYU and Oregon 167 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:19.319 Riders sixty three two five Fulsoon California. He is ESPN's 168 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.000 number five pocket passer in the twenty twenty six class 169 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:26.160 and enter today as the nation's top ranked uncommitted quarterback. 170 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.279 So he will be part of the twenty twenty six 171 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.920 class later this year, but he will serve a mission 172 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:35.720 after graduation and will not formally join BYU until the 173 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:38.840 spring of twenty twenty seven. That seems to indicate he's 174 00:08:38.840 --> 00:08:40.720 going to serve one of these fourteen month missions. I 175 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:43.480 don't really know exactly how that works. That when I 176 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.240 was growing up, it was two years period. Maybe that's 177 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:49.320 changed for athletes. I honestly have no clue, But I'm 178 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:51.200 not going to be one of these guys that tells 179 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:53.360 you I've been grinding tape on Rider. But I've learned 180 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:56.240 a lot about him since the rumor started a surface 181 00:08:56.279 --> 00:08:59.559 that he could potentially land at BYU, so a bunch 182 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:03.159 of visits It's this spring included stops at Michigan, Ohio State, 183 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:07.159 Old Miss and then his finalists were BYU, Oregon, and USC, 184 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:12.600 and then his brother actually plays at USC. He elected 185 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:15.480 to not take his visit to USC, went up to Eugene, 186 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:17.519 spent some time at Oregon, then came down a provo 187 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:22.159 and visited BYU, and then today announcing that he will 188 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:25.559 play his college football for Klonie Satake and Brigham Young 189 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:30.399 starting in twenty twenty seven. So BYU has a recruiting 190 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:32.720 class that's shaping up to potentially be a top twenty 191 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:35.159 class from what I looked up earlier today. And of 192 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:37.360 course there are different services that do this, whether it's 193 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.080 ESPN or two four seven, This on three, this New 194 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.600 on three website social media platform also is doing this. 195 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.559 BYU's best class from what I saw was twenty ten 196 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:51.080 and it was the thirtieth rand class in the country. 197 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:53.679 This is shaping up to far surpass that maybe even 198 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:56.440 be top twenty or higher. Ben Olsen was the highest 199 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:58.799 ranked quarterback back in two thousand and two. That did 200 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.440 not work out well. And of course we should pause 201 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:04.559 to say for people that are anointing this kid or 202 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:08.440 you know, youte fans that are worried highly ranked recruits, 203 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:13.480 even recruits as highly ranked as this typically you know, 204 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:17.360 are a dime a dozen. It really comes down to 205 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:21.039 how they develop, how they settle in. I mean, Riter's 206 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:23.639 got a mission in front of him. There's a lot 207 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:25.759 that has to happen between now and then for him 208 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:28.559 to be ready. Of course, there's always the narrative about, 209 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:30.519 you know, when you take a mission for a year 210 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:34.120 or two, fourteen months or twenty four, you enter the 211 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:37.320 kind of prime of your life in college in a 212 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.679 way that eighteen nineteen year old kids don't. And that's 213 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:43.720 a debate that has been highly debated for a number 214 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:47.120 of different years. But what is very very clear is 215 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:50.000 the pedigree that this kid has is really, really special. 216 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:52.840 He was the twenty twenty four California Gatorade Football Player 217 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:55.440 of the Year, and he can do a little bit 218 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:57.720 of everything. He's a dual threat kid. He completed about 219 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:00.720 sixty eight percent of his passes over thirty five your yards, 220 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:04.320 thirty eight passing touchdowns, eight picks. First year as a 221 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:08.120 starter in twenty twenty three. His sophomore stats were actually 222 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:11.279 better than his junior stats the next year, over three 223 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:14.919 thousand yards forty six touchdowns through the air. He also 224 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:17.600 can run the football. He's combined for over fifteen hundred 225 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.720 rushing yards thirty seven rushing scores across two seasons as 226 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:25.000 a starter. So look in a vacuum this appears to 227 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:27.919 be a big time get for Kilanie front of the show. 228 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:29.799 Maybe we'll try to get Kilanie and a Rod out 229 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.960 to talk about this. Brock Harris is an in state 230 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:36.879 tied end from Saint George, number thirty two recruit in 231 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:39.960 the country. They've got a defensive tackle who was an 232 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:42.320 Oregon flip, and a couple of other kids in this 233 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:46.399 class at this point that again indicate BYU could lock 234 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:49.000 in the top twenty football class for their twenty twenty 235 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:53.679 six recruits. Now this is a that's the vacuum net 236 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:57.639 net from today. Okay, the Macro thirty thousand foot view 237 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:00.960 net net is what we've been talking about on this show. 238 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:02.799 As I referenced as we kind of came into the 239 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:05.759 show today, I don't want to ever be the radio 240 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:08.679 host or sports media personality that takes victory laps for 241 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:10.679 things that I got correct, because I get a lot 242 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:13.919 of things wrong. And everyone in our business seems to 243 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.519 just throw darts against the dart board and then they 244 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:18.559 focus on the one that lands on the bulls eye 245 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:21.200 and they just simply ignore the rest that don't even 246 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:25.600 hit the board. But this has become very very clear 247 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:28.480 for quite some time now, and it wasn't hard to 248 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.559 see what BYU would be able to do once they 249 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:35.600 were allowed to unlock their sizable resources. The LDS Church 250 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:38.440 and the culture of the LDS Church, it's members. They 251 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:42.159 understand the power of the purse, and they understand the 252 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:44.879 power of tremendous resources when it comes to being able 253 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:47.440 to capitalize on opportunities that are put in front of them. 254 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:50.360 That's a dynamic of the religion, even though some people 255 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:53.320 in the religion want to ignore it, because certain members 256 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:56.679 of this culture don't like to acknowledge very uncomfortable truths. 257 00:12:56.679 --> 00:12:59.600 And when something like this happens, I just laugh when 258 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:02.679 I hear these BYU goobs that call themselves media members 259 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:04.000 to try to get in front of like, no, this 260 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.879 is not about nil, this is not about money, This 261 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:10.639 is about the BYU experience. This is about develop shut up, 262 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:16.240 Like take your victory, lap Okay, Like just acknowledge what 263 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:18.919 it is and don't tell me I'm not seeing what 264 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:22.080 I'm seeing. Okay. This is about It can be about 265 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.559 a number of different things, and certain you know, folk 266 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:27.759 that are involved in that culture don't necessarily have the 267 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:29.559 ability to hold a couple of thoughts in their head 268 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:33.519 at the same time. This is about a football program 269 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:36.600 under Kolonie Satake that has really grown over the past 270 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:39.279 few years. With Jay Hill's defensive coordinator, our guy A 271 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:42.240 Rod is the offensive coordinator. They go eleven to two 272 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:44.480 and big twelve play last year and they have an 273 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:47.120 excellent season and they have a great bowl win over 274 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:49.600 Colorado in the Alamo Bowl. It was a really good 275 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:53.519 year for Kilanie and that helps. Okay, It's also about 276 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:58.360 the deep pocketed donors that provide the big nil checks 277 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.320 that motivate these players to come play here, because that's 278 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:03.679 part of the reality now. And there's nothing wrong with 279 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.159 saying that out loud. When you cry about it and 280 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:09.639 you deny and you deflect, you look like the moron. Okay, 281 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:12.960 I'll say what I've said. Take your victory, lab man. 282 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:15.399 This is a big deal. This is like the aj 283 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:19.559 Debanza equivalent for the football program, something like it. And 284 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:24.679 when reputable college basketball media members, namely Jeff Goodman, come 285 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:28.240 out with the knowledge that you're paying AJ debatsa seven 286 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:31.960 million dollars for five months of basketball, or the reports 287 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:35.919 including Scott Drew himself given an interview that you know, 288 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:38.799 Baylor basketball thought they had locked in their future point 289 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:41.000 guard least for this year for a couple million bucks, 290 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:43.480 and he renigs on the deal to take over three 291 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.240 and a half million dollars from BYU to play for them. 292 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:50.960 Stop denying it, Stop lying about it. It's actually worse 293 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:54.360 than denying. You are liars. You are lying. Okay, I 294 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:57.919 have not seen an nil number for Rider, but guess 295 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:02.000 what it will come out. And it's fine because that's 296 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:05.240 the name of the game. The game has changed, and 297 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:07.559 it's been changed now for a couple of years. And 298 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:10.679 the fact of the matter is the changing of the 299 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:13.799 rules and the changing of the ecosystem is only positive 300 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:18.000 for a place like BYU with tremendous resources and a 301 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:21.759 tremendous amount of powerful donors and boosters and alumni that 302 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:24.919 care about BYU athletics, that are clearly willing to open 303 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:28.360 up their pockets and there's nothing wrong with that. I 304 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:32.840 don't know why whenever announcements like this come down from BYU, 305 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.360 when we hear a big time recruit has signed to 306 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:40.480 play for them, the propaganda machine, the quote unquote media 307 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:43.000 members that actually work for the school. I don't know 308 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:45.120 if they get phone calls from the higher ups to 309 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:46.799 be like, hey, we have to start lying about the 310 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:49.000 money stuff. We have to deflect and pretend like we're 311 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:51.600 actually not competing with NIL. I don't know if they 312 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:55.480 receive messaging that they're supposed to further from their platform, 313 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:58.879 but it's so beyond pathetic and lame, and again it's 314 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:03.679 worse than denying. You are to people because this ecosystem 315 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:08.000 and landscape is benefiting you, lean into it, lean into 316 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:10.759 it and actually be authentic and don't be liars. Okay, 317 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:14.200 So when the NIL figure comes out, it simply will 318 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:17.039 be on par I'm not saying more or less because 319 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:18.879 I know people get in their feel goods about this. 320 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:22.720 It will simply be on par with what an Oregon 321 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:25.600 could have paid or a USC could have paid. Because 322 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:29.279 I can promise you if Oregon or USC doubled BYU's 323 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:33.000 NIL number. Writer Lions would be in Eugene or southern California, 324 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:36.559 not in provo. Let's be adults and grown ups about this. Okay, 325 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:41.399 So last thing here, University of Utah had an innate 326 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:44.919 advantage over Brigham Young University when it came to athletics 327 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:47.320 for a decade. And it's very simple, and we can 328 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:50.759 be very reductive and say Utah had a P five 329 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.639 invite and they had P five access as members of 330 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:56.679 the PAC twelve, and BYU is independent, and throughout the 331 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:01.559 course of that dynamic, Utah football specifically elevated themselves pass 332 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:04.880 Bergham Young. There's the head to head, there's the overall record. 333 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:08.240 It was essentially a generation of Utah football dominance. Okay, 334 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:11.359 and it was because of a few different things, but 335 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:15.039 the main advantage is Utah football had a PAC twelve invite. 336 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:18.160 BYU football was wandering in the wilderness, we'll speak your 337 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:22.079 language a little bit, as an independent with nobility to 338 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:25.839 play for a conference championship, no innate scheduling abilities. So 339 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:30.000 we saw like UMass in town and all these horrible programs, 340 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:33.759 or once BYU lost one game, their season was essentially over. 341 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:37.960 Right when BYU two tiered thing here, before we catch 342 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:40.880 a break. When BYU received Big twelve access, you combine 343 00:17:40.920 --> 00:17:45.000 that with the changing landscape of collegiate athletics that allows 344 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:47.039 powerful boosters to get involved with the power of the 345 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:50.039 pocket and the power of the purse. Those two things 346 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:54.319 have catapulted both BYU football and BYU basketball to a 347 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:57.119 level that if you're a Utah fan, you should be worried, 348 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:00.279 you should be concerned if you measure your programs employ 349 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.480 against BYU. Right now, the shoes on the other foot, 350 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:06.720 and this is another shot across the bow. Rider Lyons 351 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:09.599 committing to BYU today is another shot across the bow 352 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:12.920 up here in Salt Lake to the University of Utah 353 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:17.440 to get their act together and get your things in order. So, 354 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:20.440 if you're a youthe fan and you have the great 355 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:23.319 fortune of owning a business that's done well, or if 356 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:25.279 you have deep pockets or a few commas in your 357 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:29.680 bank account, if you haven't contacted Mark Harlin and the 358 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:31.720 Athletic Department to see how you can get involved with 359 00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:34.240 the Crimson Collective or whatever they're calling to these days, 360 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:37.359 it's probably time to act if you want to keep up, 361 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:40.880 because this is a situation where forty miles south of here. 362 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:44.160 They're building juggernauts on the football field and the basketball court, 363 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.200 and we'll see if Utah football and Utah basketball and 364 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:50.960 Utah Athletics and the institution overall can keep up. You know, 365 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:54.519 I'm starting to change my opinion on this, So you know, 366 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:56.559 I've told you in the past I have this weird thing. 367 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:58.720 And Zach will appreciate this because you have some podcast 368 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:02.279 called Tennefolk. My friends have always been fascinated when I 369 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:07.240 latching onto like clearly horrible movies, because it's really interesting 370 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:09.440 to me to watch something that's so bad and wonder 371 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:11.960 how was actually made. Yeah, of course, I'm starting to 372 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:14.359 feel that way about pit Bull and the bit we 373 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:17.519 do is act. It's so bad, like it's there's nothing 374 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:19.480 good about it, but it's so bad. I'm starting to 375 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:21.240 kind of be fascinated with it, if that makes sense. 376 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:26.759 I'm fascinated how it is worldwide renowned, how it's real, 377 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:28.880 period and yeah real, okay. 378 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:32.400 Zach Harper, Tuesday afternoon, Hey buddy, how are we doing? 379 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:36.400 Porn starts coming in and you don't get excited? Are 380 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:37.240 you kidding me? No? 381 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:40.480 I just explained, I explain that I'm starting to because 382 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:44.240 it's like Pitbull to me is the dirty deeds of musicians. 383 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:45.839 I'm starting to become fascinated with it. 384 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:51.119 Wow, I mean he is mister worldwide. You point anywhere 385 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:52.319 on a map, He's been there. 386 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:55.440 How is how is Cinophobe? These days? It's been a 387 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:56.920 minute since I've tapped in. How are we doing? 388 00:19:57.599 --> 00:19:59.799 It's great? I can't remember. Let me see what we've 389 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:04.319 got coming up this week. We just had a good 390 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:08.119 run of real I mean some real bad movies. We 391 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:10.680 did like Stigmata, like, we did some we did some 392 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:13.799 real weird stuff. Oh, I believe we've got a van 393 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:16.319 damn movie coming up this week, not Where to Run. 394 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:19.880 Yeah, it's such a brilliant idea for a podcast because truly, 395 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:22.960 for years and years and years I would have roommates 396 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:25.000 and the friends are like, why are you watching this? 397 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:27.720 I'm like, cause it's fascinating. It's amazing to me, like 398 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:30.599 how stuff like this actually gets made. So as a 399 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:35.079 fan of really awful movies, like horribly good movies, it's 400 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:37.279 really such a great idea. You guys came up with. 401 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:40.720 Thank you, And I think what I love about it 402 00:20:40.759 --> 00:20:43.680 is because I'm with you, Because forever I would just 403 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:47.319 watch horrible movies and just giggle to myself. So I'm like, 404 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:49.440 you think about it, You're like, that's the best take 405 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:51.920 they got for this. So then I start wondering what 406 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:54.279 else happened in the shooting of this movie, And then 407 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:55.799 for us, we do a little research and we get 408 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:58.200 to joke about it, and then forever, you know, Amin 409 00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:00.359 al Hassan and I were just texting each other about 410 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.400 bad movies we were watching, and then it probably took 411 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:04.799 us way too long to figure out we should be 412 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:07.720 doing a podcast about this, and thankfully, thankfully, people seem 413 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:08.640 to like it all. 414 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:10.839 Right, a lot to do. Zackson tun and I last spoke, 415 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:13.039 I won't bear the lead because we have an NBA champ, 416 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:17.000 a very deserving NBA champ. Oklahoma City was historical all 417 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:20.000 year long with a great regular season. Took them seven 418 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:21.799 games to get by the Pacers, but they did. 419 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:22.000 So. 420 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:24.799 My two part question is what does this championship say 421 00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:27.400 about where they are now and also where they could 422 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:28.519 be for a number of years. 423 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:31.720 Yeah, I mean where they are now is I think 424 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:34.839 you heard Sam Presti say it was like ahead of schedule, yep, right, 425 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:37.319 he didn't expect them to be this good, this quick, 426 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:39.440 and I think it's a testament to just the entire 427 00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:41.960 organization of how they run things, how they develop, how 428 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:44.440 they go about it. It's almost too robotic. Like it 429 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:49.759 almost seemed like they weren't enjoying winning the championship at times. 430 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:52.920 But you know, people process things differently. It may not 431 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:54.319 have hit them yet, but yeah, there was part of 432 00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:56.880 me that thought, did they think that there's still more 433 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:59.720 games to happen? Because it seemed a little odd, you know, 434 00:21:59.799 --> 00:22:02.480 it felt like I kept waiting for it. You know, 435 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:04.319 like if you're if you're at a you're at a 436 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:06.880 restaurant and you have a salad and they're like, would 437 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:08.519 you like some black pepper on there? You know, would 438 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:10.279 you like and you're like, yeah, just you know, keep going, 439 00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:13.240 keep going. I was like, keep going with the celebration, Like, 440 00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:15.160 let's get some emotion here. Keep going with the emotion. 441 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:16.839 I need you to. I need to just keep you know, 442 00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:20.200 grinding that emotion back onto this this salad of winning. 443 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:22.440 But I didn't seem to didn't seem like that was 444 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.680 happening enough. And so but it seems like they're in 445 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:27.519 a good spot now. I mean at least for the 446 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:31.200 next two years. I think they're in a good position 447 00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:33.440 just financially. I mean, this is the thing that that 448 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.480 stinks about the the collective bargain agreeing with the second 449 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:39.640 apron and I hate that we you know, you have 450 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:42.240 to bring this up now with everything that looks into 451 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:45.000 the future of a team. But you know, they've got 452 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.119 big extensions coming to chet Holmgren and Jada of this 453 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:52.480 this off season, which won't kick in until the season 454 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:55.359 after next season, so that's when it gets real expensive. 455 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:57.480 You know, they have a super Max deal going. It's 456 00:22:57.480 --> 00:22:59.799 gonna be like four years, three hundred million to shay 457 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:02.599 that it will be this offseason that kicks in, you know, 458 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:05.519 the same time. So they really have like a year 459 00:23:05.720 --> 00:23:07.839 maybe two years until they have to start making some 460 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.160 tough decisions on guys like Hartenstein and lou Door and 461 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.839 Alex Caruso and Aaron Wiggins and all these other dudes. 462 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:16.079 Or maybe they have to make a decision on a 463 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:18.240 chet Holmgun or someone like that. But the good news 464 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:20.720 for them is they have all those draft picks. Right 465 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:23.119 The reason they have all those draft picks is to 466 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:25.839 be able to attach it to contracts or you know, 467 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:29.839 bring in you know, cheap labor in terms of you know, 468 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:32.680 cost control with rookie deals, and develop those guys to 469 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:35.160 kind of bring you know, bring in some help. But 470 00:23:35.319 --> 00:23:37.160 you know that you normally wouldn't be able to do 471 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.519 when you're that maxed out, and that that good. So 472 00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:42.039 they do have a plan. I just I don't know 473 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:45.039 how long this lasts, because it never lasts as long 474 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:47.160 as we think it's going to. And then in today's 475 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:49.759 collective bargeting agreement, I don't know. I don't know what 476 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:50.599 that's going to look like. 477 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:56.119 Championship parade, Oklahoma City, Caruso, shirtless, smashing Ultras. Check could 478 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.960 barely form a sentence. What would Zach Harper's NBA Championship 479 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:01.799 Aide forty eight hour window look like? 480 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:06.920 Remember j R. Smith in twenty It would be exactly that. Okay, 481 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.000 it wouldn't be pretty. 482 00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:11.039 Fair enough, fair enough, but I wouldn't blame you at all. 483 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:13.680 I mean, celebrate, do your thing, all right. Let's move 484 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:16.039 over here before we get to some other thoughts on 485 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:20.440 the West. The net net of the Pacers entire situation, 486 00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:23.160 zac as what because you just have to I'm I 487 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:25.640 am not a Pacer fan. I never will be. But 488 00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:29.519 holy smokes, nothing but respect for Rick Carlisle. That run 489 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:33.039 going to seven games against that team when nobody even 490 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:34.680 thought you were even gonna get out of the first 491 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.960 or second round as a remarkable accomplishment. But layered in 492 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:41.119 the question has to be the Achilles injury to Tyre Saliburton. 493 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:43.559 What it means for this group moving forward. So the 494 00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:46.559 net net of the entire Pacer situations act sounds. 495 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:49.640 Like what I mean, it's good, it's positive, It just 496 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:53.480 stinks because I don't know, like you, next year's out right, 497 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:55.079 Like he shouldn't play next year. I don't even know 498 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:56.839 he'll be able to play next year because he injured 499 00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:59.519 it so deep into the into the postseason, obviously the 500 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:02.440 Game seven of the NBA Finals, that you should consider 501 00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:05.240 him out for next year? Do you consider him fully 502 00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:07.720 back for the year after that? Doesn't this usually take 503 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:10.559 about two years for guys to to really be back 504 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:13.599 to form. So are you not punting on but are 505 00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:16.440 you kind of like taking the next two seasons out 506 00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:19.319 in terms of being able to really maximize what this 507 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.519 team could be? And at that point, you know, what 508 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:24.960 does the makeup look like? You have the same players? 509 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:26.839 Are you cycling guys in and out. I think it 510 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.319 makes the construction of this really difficult. You know, Rick 511 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.160 Carlisle said the things you're supposed to say about you know, 512 00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:34.400 priority number one is getting Miles Turner back, and I 513 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:36.400 think I think that's the right move. I think it's 514 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:39.279 a good idea because you don't have a good replacement 515 00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:40.680 for him, But I don't know that he's the guy 516 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:43.000 that you need long term. He didn't play great in 517 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:45.640 the finals. He had moments, but he wasn't knocking down 518 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:47.880 shots for a guy who's a shooter. He wasn't grabbing 519 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:50.160 rebounds at all. He had times where he was defending 520 00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:52.079 the rim really well, but he also had times where 521 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:54.319 you know, he was allowing layups left and right. So 522 00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:57.759 you know, they do have some roster construction things. But overall, 523 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.720 I think the important thing was their ie identity and 524 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:03.000 their team culture. And I know team culture is always 525 00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:05.559 such an overused thing, but it really worked with them, 526 00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:09.079 right Like they built this. They decided two years ago, Hey, 527 00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:11.200 we've got this guy, We're gonna build everything around him. 528 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.559 We're gonna play this certain way and make life miserable 529 00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:17.440 for everybody else. And it worked. It really really worked, 530 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.839 and I think it'll work again. You just got to 531 00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:21.240 get that guy back to full health. 532 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.680 So as a result of the Durant trade, and I 533 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:28.559 certainly am interested in your thoughts on that, that combined with, 534 00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:31.680 of course, the litany of injuries the teams will have 535 00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:34.000 to deal with, But we'll focus on the Western Conference 536 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.960 for a moment. Oklahoma City an overwhelming favorite in Vegas, 537 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:40.160 not just to win the West, but win the championship 538 00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:43.359 next year. But according to Vegas, the two teams that 539 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:46.640 it actually that's not even the right way to put it. 540 00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:49.559 According to Vegas, it's Oklahoma City and then a large gap, 541 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:52.079 but the two teams that are the closest are Houston 542 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.359 and Minnesota. Do you concur with that and would you 543 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.319 put any other teams in the West that actually do 544 00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.400 exist in Oklahoma City's cul de sac? 545 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.440 Yeah, I think that's probably right. You know, I think, 546 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.000 you know, Houston was already really really good and really intriguing. 547 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:09.559 You add Kevin Durant to the mix. I assume it's 548 00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:11.559 going to be a good fit because I do think 549 00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:14.200 you can just kind of plug and play him anywhere 550 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:16.880 you've got to. You gotta make sure he's happy right. 551 00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:19.000 It's sure that he doesn't he doesn't get towered on 552 00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.359 the situation, but I think he fits with what they 553 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.279 want to do and what they need Defensively, They're going 554 00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.400 to have an identity whether he's on the floor or not. 555 00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:29.359 So if he misses some games, I don't think it's 556 00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:31.960 a big deal. They still need more scoring in the 557 00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:33.720 back court. I think they need a little bit more 558 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:37.599 reliability with scoring and shooting in the back court. And 559 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:39.559 I don't know if that happens by a trade. I 560 00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:41.240 don't know if that happens by a development. I don't 561 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:43.839 know if that happens by by signing a role player 562 00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:47.319 who can step in. But they they they're not complete here. 563 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:49.640 They need that, but they're also going to have you know, 564 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:52.640 Aman Thompson is becoming a monster on the court. I 565 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:55.039 think that that postseason, as brief as it was, was 566 00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:58.079 very important for him. So I think they're in a 567 00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:01.640 great position Minnesota. It's going to be interesting to just 568 00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:04.640 how do they pivot from what they were. They built 569 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.079 that team to beat Denver, and they beat Denver and 570 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:11.440 then OKC emerged as the new monster, and clearly that 571 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:14.839 makeup doesn't exactly work. I also think that series was 572 00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:18.279 closer than the five games that it was. I think 573 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:20.759 Game one was a lot more competitive than people think 574 00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:23.920 it was. And I think, you know, Game four was 575 00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:27.079 right there for the taking. And if they win Game 576 00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:29.599 four and it's two to two, we've seen, you know, 577 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.400 you can put pressure on OKAC. Denver did it, Indiana 578 00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:35.480 did it, And what does that look like for Minnesota. 579 00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:37.440 They need more help in the backcourt or at least 580 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:40.319 on the perimeter for initiating offense for Anthony Edwards. I 581 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:42.640 don't know how much flexibility they're going to have to 582 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:44.720 make that happen, but I do think those are the 583 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:47.920 two best teams outside of OKC in the West. 584 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.920 Now the East gets very interesting. The Knicks interviewed Mike 585 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.920 and Norri today or this week, so you know, we'll 586 00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.759 see what happens there respect to coach Nori long time 587 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.400 as assistant. Number of different stops in the NBA filled 588 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.119 in for you know what, I'm not breaking it down 589 00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:07.759 anymore anyway. We'll see who they land on. But when 590 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.319 it comes when it comes to this, I don't know. 591 00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:13.559 I've heard gap year. Tom Haberstrow's used gap year for Boston. 592 00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.599 They trade Drew Holliday to Portland. Of course, the injury 593 00:29:16.599 --> 00:29:21.400 to Dame, so Milwaukee's compromised, and then obviously Halliburton's injury. 594 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.640 I mean, you know those teams will stay competitive, but 595 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:26.160 I suppose Zach and We'll lean into the odds again. 596 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.839 Out East, it is Cleveland, New York, and then Orlando 597 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.839 who acquires Desmond Bane With these players hurt and compromised, 598 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.599 what do you think happens in the Eastern Conference next year? 599 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:39.519 Yeah, I mean I would put the Knicks as the favorite, 600 00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:41.319 or at least my favorite. We got to see what 601 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.000 does happen with the coaching situations. I don't think just 602 00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:46.440 any coach is going to be a good higher I 603 00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:48.240 do like Mike Nory. We could break that down if 604 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.240 you want, but I do like him quite a bit, 605 00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:52.640 so I think I think that would be a good option. 606 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.279 But you also just never know if if guys are 607 00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:58.160 going to embrace the new coach. So you know, they 608 00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:00.759 were right there and I think that they're not that 609 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.440 far off. I think they need a couple of bench pieces. 610 00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:05.920 I don't think the issue was Tom Thibodau not playing 611 00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:07.160 the bench. I don't think he had much of a 612 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:09.279 bench to play. Right, So I think it's kind of 613 00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:11.839 compounded on those two issues on top of each other. 614 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.680 So I don't really believe in Cleveland after these last 615 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.480 three postseasons. I think that they've got to prove that, 616 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:20.359 you know, they've got the mental makeup. I know they've 617 00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:21.880 got the talent, but I think they've got to prove 618 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.400 they have the mental makeup before I start buying them 619 00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.039 as a team that will will break through. Even though 620 00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:29.200 they had sixty four wins and look great in the 621 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.680 regular season. Orlando, obviously, as you mentioned, is super interesting. 622 00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.759 I want to see what Detroit does. I think Detroit's 623 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:38.119 got a great opportunity to make us splash this offseason, 624 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.680 whether that's grabbing more help for Cad on the perimeter, 625 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.319 whether it's grabbing another dynamic big man inside to either 626 00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.200 replace Dura or help Duran, or if that's a four 627 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.079 who can stretch things out. If they can grab some 628 00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.599 more offense in there, I think Detroit could be another 629 00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:55.839 one of those teams that really surprises everybody. If Orlando 630 00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:59.720 is healthy, and maybe if they grab one more shooter 631 00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.880 or one more point guard who can really distribute, I 632 00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:06.000 think there'll be a massive problem in the Eastern Conference 633 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:08.640 and maybe they're that team that pulls an Indiana this year. 634 00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:13.720 All right, let's see here. Before we move over to 635 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.359 the draft stuff, let me just ask you a general 636 00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.799 question about if you're hearing anything concerning the Jazz getting 637 00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:24.079 involved in any of these transactions. We have Drew Holliday 638 00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:27.799 to the Blazers, of course, Durant to the Rockets. CJ. McCollum. 639 00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:29.400 I'm sure he woke up to a text he was 640 00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:33.240 pumped about. He's a wizard, and Jordan Poole will take 641 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:36.880 his talents down to New Orleans. Austin Ahs introductory press 642 00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.359 conference made some pretty bold statements. The Jazz have not 643 00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:42.039 been involved in any of these transactions yet. We'll finish 644 00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:43.799 with some draft But before we get there, are you 645 00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:46.920 hearing anything regarding the team that plays just a few 646 00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:49.119 miles from where we're broadcasting the Utah Jazz. 647 00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:53.359 Nothing specific in terms of the Jazz, but I have 648 00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.960 heard that these deals are not complete right, that other 649 00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.000 teams will likely get involved in teams with some flexibility, 650 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:03.799 some cap flexibility, cap space, So that is a team 651 00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.400 like the Jazz. I would assume that they're trying to 652 00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:08.480 get involved, whether it means grabbing a draft pick, a 653 00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:11.880 second round pick, a player, whatever that, whatever that entails. 654 00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:14.519 But I do think that these deals as reported are 655 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:18.160 are not going to be exactly what they appear to 656 00:32:18.200 --> 00:32:19.640 be in the headlines. I think it's gonna get a 657 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.119 little bit more complicated because of this collective bargaining agreement 658 00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:25.880 and just the machinations that these deals have to go through. 659 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.000 So nothing specific on the Jazz, but from the way 660 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:31.640 it sounds behind the scenes, it would not shock me 661 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:34.240 if they're involved in any or all of these trades. 662 00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:36.920 All right, let's move over the draft. Zach does a 663 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.000 mock draft for the Athletic Yeah, it does a lot 664 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.079 on these prospects. So I'm gonna start with a general 665 00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:44.039 question about the Jazz at five and we'll go from there. 666 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.920 Here's how I phrase it. Best case, realistic scenario for 667 00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:50.319 the Jazz to walk away with the prospect at five. 668 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:51.799 Who would you say that is as of now? 669 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:55.160 Ooh, I mean, I'm probably highest on Trey Johnson for 670 00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:58.400 like the realistic scenarios there. I love Trey Johnson. I 671 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.359 think he's a dynamic scoring guard. If I think he's 672 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.880 a great just classic two guard, great footwork, has a 673 00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.559 great shot good size. I think he will be someone, 674 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:10.400 you know, maybe we gotta see something defensively from him. 675 00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:11.720 I don't know if that was a Texas thing. I 676 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.599 don't know if that's a Hymn thing, but I think 677 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.440 he would just grab he would. He would add so 678 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:20.839 much great scoring to them a year or two from now. 679 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.039 And he's fun. He's a really fun guy. The next 680 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:26.960 guy after that would probably be Jeremiah Fears. Like, I know, 681 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:28.640 we've done the counter George thing, We've done that Isa 682 00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:31.480 Collier thing. I think he's legit. I think Fears is 683 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:34.240 a guy that everyone seems to be raving about him. 684 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.960 He's super young for even a draft prospect as a freshman, 685 00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:41.160 and he is a just absolute monster in the pick 686 00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:42.880 and roll. Like, I think he is a guy that 687 00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.359 I wouldn't look at the shooting percentages. I would look 688 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.400 at the film with him. I think he's going to 689 00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:49.319 really shine at the NBA level. 690 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.079 What do you make of the Ace Bailey stuff. I mean, 691 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.400 I keep reminding people he's an eighteen year old kid. 692 00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.759 He's not making these decisions. Certainly his reps, his agent 693 00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.240 and the stuff I've read about his agent. I'll say, Uh, 694 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:03.079 he's just learning on the job, okay, But typically if 695 00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:06.359 you're going to cancel every workout you're offered, you have 696 00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.960 a promise. But when I heard he canceled Philly at three, 697 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:10.719 I'm like, well, dude, he didn't get a promise at 698 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.920 one or two. So like, ultimately, what do you make 699 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:18.320 of this noise? What's the motivation for Ace's camp to 700 00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.079 roll this way? And what do you think it means 701 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:21.760 for his status tomorrow night? 702 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.320 Yeah, the thing you hear is that he doesn't want 703 00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:26.880 to maybe be in Philly, but even that's murky, and 704 00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.679 that he doesn't want to, you know, do the whole 705 00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.199 like one on on none workout because that doesn't really 706 00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.159 show anything, which I get. But also like you're not 707 00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.000 going to go play five on five out there either, 708 00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:39.199 because why why would you if you're potentially the number 709 00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.519 three pick? Like it just in how workouts go in 710 00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:45.159 today's world, that's not how that really goes. And and 711 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:48.840 then like, you know, baby, maybe is just trying to 712 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.320 get away from you know, teams that are not so 713 00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:57.039 east coast except Philly's east coast right and Washington's east coast, 714 00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.320 And so I don't know, I don't I genuinely don't 715 00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:03.000 know what he's doing other than and not he like 716 00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:05.800 like you said, it's his agent, like disrupting the draft process. 717 00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.119 I'm for it in terms of adding a little chaos, 718 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:11.079 because I do think the draft process can be a 719 00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:15.119 little dumb. But if you don't have that, if you 720 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.679 don't have that promise and you are willing to go 721 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.400 through the potential embarrassment of falling on draft night, it's fine. 722 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:25.440 You could use that to your motivation. You can use 723 00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:28.199 that down the road. But it is a risk, right, 724 00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:30.559 Like it is a risk, like I don't think Charlotte's 725 00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.519 gonna take him. I don't think Utah is gonna take him. 726 00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:36.079 You know, I think Washington is super interested. I think 727 00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.840 Brooklyn would love to have him, and maybe that's the 728 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:41.239 goals for him to fall down to one of those teams. 729 00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:45.480 But I don't fully understand what's going on with him 730 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:46.000 in his camp. 731 00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.800 Feels like most of the noise around Philly as they've 732 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:53.199 landed on Edge comb at three. Let me ask you this, though, 733 00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.000 if there's a like maybe Philly is zigging and maybe 734 00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:58.079 they just take ace like everybody thought they were going 735 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:00.920 to for like a year. If Edge column and Trey 736 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.039 Johnson are there at five. Who do you think Josh 737 00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:03.760 should taken away? 738 00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:08.119 Oh, Edgecombe. I don't think Edgecomb would get passed Charlotte 739 00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:12.000 at four, but I do think Edgecomb is the guy 740 00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.639 to take there. I mean everything I've heard from people 741 00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.239 around him and around the part, they're like, he almost 742 00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.360 was too good of a teammate last year and didn't 743 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:23.960 take over at times. And it's not that he couldn't. 744 00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.079 He was just trying to make sure everyone was involved. 745 00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.599 Everyone had to go with it. And he's got way 746 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:32.880 more to his game than what he even showed, and 747 00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:34.679 on both ends of the floor. And I think that 748 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.239 is you know, yeah, he's only six four and you 749 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.440 like a little bit more hype, but his arms are long, 750 00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:42.920 he's crazy athletic. He's got a good shot, he's got 751 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:46.760 good passing ability, he's got good defensive instincts. I think 752 00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:49.519 he's someone that we're going to see him like two 753 00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.199 months into his rookie year and wonder why didn't we 754 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:53.320 see any of this at Baylor. 755 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.519 Yeah, yeah, that's fair. He played here against BYU down 756 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.559 in Provo, had a really really good game. So Richard Smith, 757 00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:03.920 who's a consistent guest on the show and was with 758 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.719 the Jazz for forty years. He'll be on our Draft 759 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:10.159 night coverage tomorrow. Seems to be pretty enamored with the 760 00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:13.119 Malowatch Kid out of Duke. Now the Jazz have a 761 00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.039 big and Walker Kessler that they like an awful lot. 762 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:17.599 But there are a lot of rumors that maybe they're 763 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:19.679 going to try to reset the clock based off the 764 00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:23.559 fact that they're miles away from anybody, not even close 765 00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:25.679 to being even kind of decent. Do you think there's 766 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:29.320 any sense to maybe taking the Malawatch Kid at five 767 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:32.320 and kicking the tires on Kessler, then resetting the clock 768 00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:36.039 to kind of go back to the beginning after a 769 00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:40.880 four year, very clunky, somewhat embarrassing attempted to rebuild. 770 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:42.840 I think it makes a lot of sense just but 771 00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.639 I'm also super high on Malwatch, Like I think he 772 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:47.760 is one of the best prospects in the draft, and 773 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.920 he is someone I would I would risk, you know, 774 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:53.840 a higher pick on. I've seen some people say maybe 775 00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:56.320 second half of the lottery, you know, maybe maybe more 776 00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:59.800 towards the six to ten range, And I get it, 777 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.119 get that he hasn't played that long and there are 778 00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:04.800 some things you maybe worry about in terms of skill 779 00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.000 development here and there. I think it's touch in his 780 00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.119 instincts for a guy who's only played basketball for a 781 00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:13.639 couple of years, are just incredible. His size, you obviously 782 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.719 can't teach that. And you know, it's not that Walker 783 00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:19.440 Kessler isn't good. He's really good. He's going to be 784 00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:22.440 a very good, you know, center for a lot, starting 785 00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:25.159 center for a long time in the NBA. But and 786 00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:27.119 I don't know if this is a proper comp but 787 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:30.239 you know, it might be the difference between having an 788 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:33.519 all star, perennial all star center in maliwatch if he 789 00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:36.000 can develop into that versus like having Yaka Purtle as 790 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.880 your center for ten years. Which not a problem to 791 00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:40.719 have Yaka Purtle as your center for ten years. He's 792 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:42.639 really good. You can win a lot of games with him. 793 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.000 But I do think the potential if you're looking to 794 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.880 hit home runs and find that guy in the rebuilding process, 795 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:50.800 I would almost rather risk it with Maluwatch. But I'm 796 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:52.480 also again super high on him. 797 00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:54.840 Let me ask you about one more prospect before I 798 00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:57.599 say you lose, Because it seems like everywhere I look 799 00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.440 and everybody I read konk Nipple has been and really 800 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:02.920 rising up draft boards. I think Gavoni's laid a sas 801 00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.440 him off the board at four to Charlotte. A lot 802 00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:07.280 of people of shamis. If he's there at five, the 803 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.239 Jazz would look at him. I'm undecided on this. The 804 00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:12.719 measurables aren't great, but he really guards and of course 805 00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:14.920 he can shoot it. What sort of NBA player do 806 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:16.400 you think Kan Kinnippa would make. 807 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:20.239 Yeah, I mean I keep hearing like the Luke Canard 808 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.840 comparison because of like white duke shooting guard right, and 809 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:26.480 it makes sense. He is a he's a really good passer. 810 00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:28.159 He can I mean he can shoot with a guy 811 00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:30.679 in his face, right. I think that's the important thing 812 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.199 is is it's not just oh he'll knock down open shots, 813 00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:35.519 like he was a great shooter this last year when 814 00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:37.679 guys were right up on him, and so that's an 815 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:41.280 important skill to have as well. To me, the my 816 00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:44.039 issue with him is whenever I saw him play, he 817 00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:46.079 looked like someone who was like six one sixty two 818 00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:48.320 with the way he played and that and not like 819 00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:50.039 in a good like oh he's so shifty kind of 820 00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.320 way in like why isn't this guy playing like he's 821 00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:55.320 sixty sixty sixty seven? You know, I think for me 822 00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:57.679 that's that's my worry with him is that he is 823 00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.880 going to be physically overmatched at the NBA level, and 824 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.199 I don't want to see, you know, I just I 825 00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.079 wouldn't take him in the top five. To me, I 826 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:08.960 think he's going to be a good pro. I just 827 00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:11.440 think there's a lot more potential with guys like Fears, 828 00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:14.079 guys like Trey Johnson, guys like Maley Watch like though. 829 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.719 I would rather risk it with them rather than go 830 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:18.880 with ka Nipple that high in the draft. 831 00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.239 All right, buddy, appreciate the time should be a fun week. 832 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.800 Draft of Week's always fun. So you have a good one. Well, 833 00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:25.719 chat soon, thanks, Ach. 834 00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:27.760 Are you coming? Are you coming to the Summer League 835 00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:29.480 in Vegas? Yeah? 836 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.239 We're debating and discussing, but you need to come to 837 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:34.360 Salt Lake Summer leauecause that's where the real party is. 838 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:34.719 You know that. 839 00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:36.760 Okay, I'll go there, but you got to come to 840 00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:38.000 at least the first weekend in Vegas. 841 00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:40.000 All right, If you come here, I'll go to Vegas, 842 00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:42.360 all right, deal, deal there he is Zach Harper from 843 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.599 the Athletic. I always appreciate his time. He joins us 844 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:49.360 on a very consistent basis. He writes power rankings weekly 845 00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:52.000 for the Athletic. He does mock drafts as well. We're 846 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.320 talking about as podcast info, but it's a very fun listen. 847 00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:55.960 If you never checked it out, I would encourage you 848 00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.199 to do so. At Top Hoops is where you find him. 849 00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:02.320 Next on the drive, Man dropping dimes for your NBA 850 00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:03.639 Daily assists. 851 00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:12.599 Van McMahon Van McMahan. That is in all Land Texas 852 00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:20.719 flood as tickets, Mud He's and main Ban McMahon Van McMahon. 853 00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:28.400 Then, Man, we got the voice of the You. It's 854 00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.519 Bill Riley joining us. Coming up in a bit. Dave 855 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.320 Fox rolls by starting things off with Zach Harper. But 856 00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:36.960 it is a Tuesday, even in June. That means it's 857 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.039 time for our weekly hit with the great Tim McMahon. Timmy, 858 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:42.239 I know you're a jam Paxel. Let's get right to it. 859 00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.679 Since you and I last spoke, we have a deserving 860 00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.880 NBA champ. How do you add color and context and 861 00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.519 not just the finals run, but the entire season that 862 00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:51.920 we just saw from Oklahoma City. 863 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:53.360 Yeah, I mean. 864 00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:56.880 Listen for Shake Gildes Alexander. I mean, we just witnessed 865 00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:01.519 one of the great individual all around seasons in NBA history. 866 00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:06.039 I mean, you punch up his numbers, scoring champ uh, 867 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:12.119 you know, regular season, MVP, Finals, MVP, complete brilliance for 868 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:14.559 a guy just entering his prime. And then, like the 869 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.840 question of Oklahoma City, now that they've gotten one, is 870 00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:21.159 how many they've got a chance? You know, you got 871 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.960 to put a couple together before you start throwing dynasty 872 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.920 around too much. But they've got that kind of potential 873 00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.079 when you look at they've got one guy and they're 874 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:33.639 in their regular rotation who you could say is deep 875 00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:35.679 into his prime. The rest of them are either just 876 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:39.079 starting it or not even approaching it. This is going 877 00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:40.880 to be a force to be reckoned with for a 878 00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:44.039 long long time to come. Certainly the team that everybody 879 00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:45.480 in the NBA is going to be chasing for the 880 00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:46.480 next few years. 881 00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:51.039 So who out this way out West exists now with them? 882 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:54.960 The Vegas Odds basically says, well, it says Oklahoma City 883 00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:57.480 is the massive favorite, but if there are two teams 884 00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:00.360 that can actually maybe make them uncomfortable, according to Vegas, 885 00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:03.599 it's Houston with Durant and Minnesota, do you think those 886 00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:06.320 are the two teams that Oklahoma City needs to worry 887 00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.239 about or they're just going to kind of do their thing. 888 00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:10.199 Well, you know, I. 889 00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:13.159 Don't make Oklahoma City iss gon't necessarily worry about anybody. 890 00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:15.679 I would say Denver is the team in the Western 891 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.760 Conference that pushed them to the brink, that pushed them 892 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.639 to seven games. Denver is the one that as a 893 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:24.000 player that you can make a real serious argument that 894 00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:28.400 is even a more dominant force than Shake Gilds Alexander. 895 00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.159 So I think you've got to include the Nuggets in 896 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:33.360 that conversation. Also, you know, Denver's the last team other 897 00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.400 than okay See in the West to win a championship. 898 00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:38.800 And you know, the Rockets I think are going to 899 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:41.679 be I don't know, we can play with the semantics 900 00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:46.000 of contender, but man, the Rockets were a number two 901 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:49.840 seed that, in my opinion, were a go to guy 902 00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.639 away from being a real threat, and they just were 903 00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.320 not traded for Kevin Durant without giving up anything that 904 00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:59.320 I would consider to be an essential part of their 905 00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:00.000 long term future. 906 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:04.679 True, So the Pacers net net of this, tim sounds 907 00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:07.480 like what an incredible run to the Game seven of 908 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:11.639 the NBA Finals, a horrible, horrible ending with Haliburton coming 909 00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:14.360 out knocking down three threes and then doing the Achilles. So, 910 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:17.639 as somebody you witnessed this run, what's the takeaway from 911 00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.639 Indiana side. 912 00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:22.400 I mean, maybe the most impressive playoff run, not the 913 00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:26.719 end of the championship ever, certainly in recent memory. When 914 00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:29.360 you talk about all the upsets they pulled off, all 915 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:33.960 the miraculous comebacks, the unbelievable clutch run that Tyry Halliburton, 916 00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.760 and it didn't look man like, don't I don't believe 917 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.840 in basketball? God, that's that because for him to have 918 00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:43.559 that kind of clutch run, to be getting it out 919 00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:46.119 in a game seven, to get off to that kind 920 00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:48.800 of a start in a game seven, and then to 921 00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:53.800 get hurt in that fashion, like, man, what a tragic ending, 922 00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:58.199 What a terrible way for that run to end. And 923 00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:01.559 unfortunately he probably doesn't play next year. You know, it's 924 00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:05.559 probably now a gap year for the Pacers, and what 925 00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:10.760 a what a tough playoffs for Eastern Conference stars, you know, 926 00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:15.320 Damian Lillard, Jason Tatum, Tyree's Halbert all out most if 927 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:20.519 not all. Next year, we're covering from Achilles, and you know, 928 00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:22.840 the East is wide open, and I know, like there's 929 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.840 there's guys. There are stars in the Western Conference and 930 00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:29.760 maybe aren't feeling like they're in a long term fit 931 00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:34.039 right now that are looking east and saying maybe we 932 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.239 should be trying to get there because it's a lot 933 00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:37.840 easier out east than it is west. 934 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:41.239 Right now, Vegas likes Cleveland and New York and then 935 00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:43.960 Orlando is trailing a little bit behind. Would you agree 936 00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:46.119 with that assertion based off the lidney of injuries you 937 00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:46.840 just referenced. 938 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:51.000 Yeah, And I really like the Desinvain trade for Orlando. 939 00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:52.880 You know, he's never been an All Star. I would 940 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.719 say the odds of him being an All Star now 941 00:45:56.280 --> 00:46:00.320 are a heck of a lot better now that he's 942 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:02.719 in the Eastern Conference. That's another reason maybe find some 943 00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:05.519 stars that are that are looking that way and wondering 944 00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:08.039 if that's a place that they want to be. But 945 00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:13.280 I think that they really needed obviously shooting and another 946 00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:16.920 guy who can create some offensively. I think he's going 947 00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:20.320 to be a really, really good fit and they you know, 948 00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:22.960 that was also a sign for Memphis that hey, they 949 00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.960 they're not close to contending in the Western Conference, and 950 00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:29.079 there's a step back type of trade to kind of reload, 951 00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:33.039 certainly get some some draft amo and you know, see 952 00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:35.559 what they can try to do around John Morant and 953 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:36.880 Jaron Jackson Jr. 954 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:39.800 Let me go back to the Durant deal, Tim, since 955 00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:41.880 I've been able to talk to you, do you think 956 00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:44.760 Phoenix got enough? Do you like it from both sides? 957 00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.840 Do you think there's one winner in this situation? 958 00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:50.519 No, there's one winner. You know, Phoenix wasn't going to 959 00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.920 get enough though, because of the circumstances. Sure, Kevin Durant 960 00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:56.960 had a year left on his contract and he was 961 00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.679 going to have control and he was not going to 962 00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:03.000 you know, he was like they could have gotten more 963 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.239 from Minnesota if Kat would have been willing to go there. 964 00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:07.599 He wasn't. He didn't want to go there. So the 965 00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.360 jim Wolves weren't going to trade for guy who didn't 966 00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.800 want to be there. And you know, like the Sons 967 00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:17.519 took the deal that they had to take if they're 968 00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.119 going to get a deal done for the draft. But 969 00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:23.320 the Rockets weren't going to boost that offers. They weren't 970 00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:27.199 going to give up a tarrees or certainly they don't 971 00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:29.440 even ask about him in Compton. They weren't willing to 972 00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.239 give up to Barison Junior reach Shepherd. They were only 973 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.320 willing to do a pick, not multiple picks, and certainly 974 00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:39.239 not multiple of the Son's old picks. And the Spurs 975 00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:42.480 weren't even ditagressive and neither were they heat So they 976 00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.480 took the office they had to take. But man, they're 977 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:49.880 a long way from paying off the trade that they 978 00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:53.239 made to get KD. And by the way, the team 979 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.519 that has the most facets left over from that it 980 00:47:56.559 --> 00:48:01.039 was the freaking Houston Rockets, I mean the right. It's 981 00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:04.320 funny Tillman Fatita learn some tough lessons early on the 982 00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.159 Chris Paul Trey was a disaster, right, but he learned 983 00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:09.519 his lessons and they went through painful rebuild and they've 984 00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:12.719 been very, very patient since then. It's a poll offster 985 00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:15.559 approach what Matt Ishbey has done, and the Rockets are 986 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.039 benefiting from their approach, and they're also benefiting from the 987 00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:18.760 Sun's approach. 988 00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:22.280 We've seen well, I guess with a Bain transaction, we've 989 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:26.159 now seen four pretty sizable deals coupled today. CJ. McCollum 990 00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:30.840 is a wizard interesting situation there, Jordan Poole will take 991 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.559 his talents and some other pieces involved too. Reference Baine reference. 992 00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:38.280 Durant also Drew Holliday as a Blazer, the Jazz not 993 00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:40.199 involved him. I know, we only have a few minutes left, 994 00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:41.840 so let's hone in on the local stuff. Are you 995 00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:44.760 hearing anything since you I last spoke about what this 996 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:46.760 offseason could look like for the Utah Jazz? 997 00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:51.360 Well, I mean, listen, the Jazz aren't going to tank 998 00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.639 according to O's names, but that doesn't mean they're going 999 00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:56.519 to make win now trade. How foolish would it be 1000 00:48:56.639 --> 00:48:59.679 for them to be making big splashy Oh, let's win 1001 00:48:59.800 --> 00:48:59.960 right now. 1002 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:00.199 Now. 1003 00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.480 You're not going to win now. They're going to have 1004 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.440 another tough view next years. They understand that. So, you know, 1005 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:08.880 I firmly believe if the Jazz are going to be 1006 00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.840 making trades around the draft or you know, in into 1007 00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:14.079 the early stages of the off season, they will be 1008 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:18.239 operating as sellers. Will it be John Collins, Colin Sexton, 1009 00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:21.000 Jordan Clarkson. I don't think it'll be Walker Kess, so 1010 00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:25.159 that that that would surprise me. But again, you know, 1011 00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:28.280 I don't think they're in a position where anything but 1012 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.280 patience makes sense for them. 1013 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:35.039 All right, final thing, Uh, tomorrow night NBA drafts. According 1014 00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:37.199 to what you're hearing, do you think we'll see a 1015 00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:38.639 lot of movement? Do you think it's going to be 1016 00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:40.360 a fun, dramatic night or do you think it's going 1017 00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:41.440 to kind of be status quo. 1018 00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:44.159 No, I think there's gonna be a lot of movement, 1019 00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:45.960 and like it's already started. 1020 00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:46.199 Right. 1021 00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:49.920 You mentioned the Drew Holiday deal, uh, sending him to Portland, 1022 00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:53.119 which you know that's an interesting one. Uh. You know 1023 00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:57.000 you mentioned the McCallum pool trade today. Obviously the KD 1024 00:49:57.079 --> 00:49:59.719 deal is already done, but the draft is a trade 1025 00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.079 that'll of sorts because if you're going to trade the 1026 00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:03.480 draft things, you want to be able to make your 1027 00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:06.679 own pick. And so I anticipate that it's going to 1028 00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.840 be a very busy eating tomorrow and in the second round. 1029 00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:12.960 All Right, buddy, appreciate the time we'll set you loosen, 1030 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:13.519 we'll chat soon. 1031 00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:15.280 Okay, appreciate your brother. 1032 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.400 All right. Tim McMahon covers the NBA for ESPN covers 1033 00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.880 the Utah Jazz more intensely when the Jazz are interesting. 1034 00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:26.719 NBA draft coming up tomorrow we will have covered for 1035 00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:28.920 you right after we say good night at six o'clock 1036 00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.079 on the program. The Jazz are at five. They're also 1037 00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:34.719 at twenty one, and you know, all the interesting thing 1038 00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:38.119 about the Jazz is all of these mocks are different. Now, 1039 00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:42.639 I like Veassini from The Athletic, Cavoni from ESPN. There 1040 00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:44.519 are a couple of other writers that do a really 1041 00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:48.360 good job. Cavoni's latest is Jeremiah Fears to the Jazz 1042 00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:50.719 at five. Now, we had Zach Harper on earlier. He 1043 00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:55.679 very much likes Jeremiah Fears. And this is probably not 1044 00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:58.920 a fair thing to do, but whenever something works at 1045 00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:01.480 a high level, the way this stuff goes down, like 1046 00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:05.320 teams will try to copy what Sam Presty has done, 1047 00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:08.159 and teams will try to replicate what the Boston Celtics 1048 00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:10.360 have built. Obviously didn't work this year, but they won 1049 00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:13.920 an NBA championship. They went to like five conference finals 1050 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:18.760 and two championship series and one to one. And I 1051 00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:21.199 can't help but look at the size and the lank 1052 00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:23.480 and the athleticism of the teams that are top shelf 1053 00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:26.719 from pro basketball. Right now, Jeremy Fears is six to two. 1054 00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:31.039 Keyante's like six three Isaiah six to two, Like, I 1055 00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:34.239 just don't know if building a roster full of guards 1056 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:38.639 that are small is a formula for winning basketball in 1057 00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:40.320 the modern day and age of the NBA. When you 1058 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:42.800 look at the Oklahoma City Thunder, the team that just 1059 00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:46.360 won the NBA Championship, and again I want to acknowledge 1060 00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:49.440 how unfair this is because Oklahoma City is historic and 1061 00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:53.239 we probably should have been more adamant about understanding that 1062 00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:57.000 early on. And even Indiana fits the bill like this 1063 00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:00.280 a little bit. Boston fully healthy, certainly does. And then 1064 00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:02.679 there are unicorns like a Steph Curry who's six three, 1065 00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:04.760 but he's just Steph. It's just different because he's so 1066 00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:08.159 elite what he does. But you look at Alex Crusoe 1067 00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:11.079 sixty five, Lou Dort six', Five shay is six to. Six, 1068 00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:15.320 Obviously hart And shine And shad are seven. Footers you 1069 00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:18.000 keep going down the. List Cason wallace is sixty, three 1070 00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:20.880 plays like he's sixty, Six Aaron wiggins is sixty, Five 1071 00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:24.159 Jalen williams is sixty, Six Kenrick williams of six,', eight 1072 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:28.400 like you just simply have to, have big lengthy wings 1073 00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:31.760 that can guard multiple positions and also not be. Liabilities 1074 00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:35.000 offensively you know the era of like a one sided 1075 00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:37.079 player Like A bruce bowen For. The spurs back in, 1076 00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.039 the day there was mostly a Defensive star wars who 1077 00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:41.039 can knock down some. Corner three, he's like. That's done 1078 00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:44.880 and so if you're marching out against a team who's 1079 00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:47.519 average height in their starting lineup is like six five 1080 00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.400 sixty six and you have two players that are under 1081 00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:52.639 six three and your first guard off the bench is six, 1082 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:55.760 to two unless all three of those players are, ultra 1083 00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:59.679 special just think you're up. Against it so we'll see 1084 00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:01.639 What the as do. Tomorrow night there are a bunch 1085 00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:06.519 of different mocks that indicate different directions. Are Possible kN 1086 00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:08.599 ker nipple is a name that has risen up. Draft 1087 00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:12.000 boards cavoni has him at four To The. Charlotte hornets 1088 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:16.559 it feels like the intrigue does start. At four the first, 1089 00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:19.320 three picks according to most people, you know feel like 1090 00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:21.480 they're kind of. Dialed in, Of course dallas will Land 1091 00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:25.519 on Cooper Flag sham scharane reported Today That san antonio 1092 00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:29.119 has just decided that they're Going With. Dylan harper and 1093 00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:33.079 actually he Mentioned The oklahoma city Model Because san antonio 1094 00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:36.119 of course has the Raigning and rookie Of the Year In, 1095 00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:39.360 stefan castle and then Of course Victor woman yama is 1096 00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:42.719 the cornerstone everything. They do they also traded For. DARN 1097 00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:45.159 fox i Don't Think chris paul is gonna be on. The, 1098 00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:49.480 roster so, you know the redundancy term IN the nba 1099 00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:51.719 might be something that we need to do, away with 1100 00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:54.800 because is there Redundancy between Shay? 1101 00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:55.119 And? 1102 00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:57.840 Jada like is there redundancy between those? Two players are 1103 00:53:57.880 --> 00:53:59.679 they just two players that are built similarly and are 1104 00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:03.039 both awesome and you just want as many players. As possible, 1105 00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:04.960 you know one of the SILLIEST things i can remember 1106 00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.280 when people were Discussing The boston celtics prior to them 1107 00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:12.119 actually winning a championship Is Can Jalen Can jalen Brown 1108 00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:14.880 And jason tatum? Play together is there too much redundancy 1109 00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:18.239 between those two because they're, built similarly they both have similar. 1110 00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:21.880 Skill sets you just want as, many, big long rangy 1111 00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:25.239 athletic players that you can possibly get that of course 1112 00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:28.320 has complete skill sets that can develop in. Your system 1113 00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:32.000 So san Antonio Adds dylan harper to a roster that 1114 00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:34.960 is already young and exciting and talented and will be 1115 00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:36.639 good for a long. Long time so it feels like 1116 00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:38.840 that's kind of. The deal and then all the intel 1117 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:41.480 as a result of the weird situation With, as bailey 1118 00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:44.719 who just won't work out, for anybody whether or not 1119 00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:46.519 he has. A promise i think that's something we're just 1120 00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:48.559 gonna have to wait to. Find out tomorrow night Is 1121 00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:51.360 that philly has LANDED on vj edgecome, Of three so 1122 00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:54.480 it feels like, tomorrow night and, again reminder we Will 1123 00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:57.519 Have draft knight coverage for you both round one and. 1124 00:54:57.679 --> 00:54:59.960 Round Two the jazz have two second. Round, picks now 1125 00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:03.079 If the jazz trade both second round picks, tomorrow night 1126 00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:05.840 maybe we'll recalibrate about our night. To coverage but, tomorrow, 1127 00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:08.760 Night Myself, Gordy Chaser, Richard smith i'll be anchoring our 1128 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:12.360 coverage and then for, Round two gordy's gonna take the. 1129 00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:15.039 Night off it'll just be Me, and smitty so we'll 1130 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:16.960 kind of see how this. Goes down so, a reminder 1131 00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:18.679 after we see a good night tomorrow at six they 1132 00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:20.920 tuned for our live coverage IN The, Nba draft but 1133 00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.199 after three is where it's getting where it gets, Interesting, 1134 00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:27.320 now Charlotte As zach harper, said earlier doesn't feel like 1135 00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.760 they've gone all in on the same sort of Rebuild 1136 00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:34.199 that Utah and. Washington have basically those two teams who 1137 00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:37.280 are very front facing and obvious about their motivations a 1138 00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:39.400 year ago to lose games on purpose for the name of. 1139 00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:42.440 Draft capital it's a, painful. Process man it is a 1140 00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:45.800 painful process because whether You, are utah whether You, are 1141 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:49.000 washington whether You're the pelicans who kind of shut, it 1142 00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:52.159 Down The, brooklyn nets like all of those teams were 1143 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.800 very obvious about their motivation to be unseerious, about competing 1144 00:55:56.400 --> 00:56:00.760 only to Watch The, dallas mavericks The Sant, antilio spurs 1145 00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:03.239 And the philadelphia Seventy six ers get the top. Three, 1146 00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:07.320 picks dallas, of course Already Has, Anthony Davis. Kyrie irving 1147 00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:10.960 they Wrapped Up daniel gafford with a. Contract extension they've 1148 00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.760 got really. Talented pieces it's not a, bad roster even 1149 00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:16.159 though they moved Off of dncic as we've, talked about 1150 00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:19.519 but they already have legitimately one of the top five 1151 00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:21.320 players in the league when he's right and when. He's 1152 00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.199 healthy THAT'S who I think ad. Is now you could 1153 00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:26.719 talk about he's up, in age his. Health issues all. 1154 00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:29.880 That's fair the, point is with the way this stuff 1155 00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:32.000 is hopefully supposed to play out for the teams that, 1156 00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:34.760 are struggling Like The, utah jazz it's just hard To 1157 00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:38.719 stomach Dallas With anthony Davis And kyrie irving grabbing. Number 1158 00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:43.159 One san antonio with the two straight winners Of the 1159 00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:45.440 rookie Of The, Year award Victor wemen Yam And, stefan 1160 00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:48.519 castle they Just grab harper. At two and Then ultimately 1161 00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:50.719 philly Still Has joel Embiid And paul george on. Their, 1162 00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:54.480 roster now tremendous amount of Questions About joel, embiat's health 1163 00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:57.519 tremendous amount of Questions About paul george's interest in playing, 1164 00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:01.199 basketball anymore but, those two when healthy, and right are 1165 00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:05.000 still very elite in the top upper half of superstar 1166 00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.679 players in. Pro basketball there are plenty of smart basketball 1167 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:10.679 people That Believe joel embiid is as unique as anyone 1168 00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:12.960 we've ever seen IN. The nba the problem is he just, 1169 00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:15.639 breaks down but they still have them on. THE roster 1170 00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:18.079 i didn't Even Mention. Tyrese maxa you JUST. Add vj 1171 00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:21.719 edgecomb to. That group so then the intrigue Starts in charlotte. 1172 00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:25.440 At four According, to Cavoni conk nipple would be the. 1173 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:27.760 Play there so if con canimple is the play, at 1174 00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:31.480 Four the jazz will have their Pick Of, Jeremiah Fears, 1175 00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:35.039 ace Bailey And. Trey johnson and if you want to 1176 00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:37.360 Throw the mallawatch Kid from duke, in there somebody likes 1177 00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:39.760 him an. Awful lot that's certainly a name you can, 1178 00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:43.400 look at but that's not a horrible group of prospects 1179 00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.639 to have your. Pick of if You're, The jazz cavoni 1180 00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:49.400 has Them Taking. Jeremiah fears i've already outlined my concern. 1181 00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:52.440 With that if those players, ARE available I think i'll 1182 00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:56.239 probably just side With What zach harper just said, earlier 1183 00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:59.079 Today And tony, Jones Echoed trey johnson feels like he 1184 00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:01.519 needs to be the pick because If the Jazz Go 1185 00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:04.559 jeremiah fears at, Five again i'll go lean back on the. Term, 1186 00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:08.519 redundancy no it's not a super excellent parallel the that's 1187 00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:10.440 probably a little bit of a. False EQUIVALENCY if I 1188 00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:13.599 Say jeremiah fears is the Same as Kante or isaiah, 1189 00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:16.239 but again it's another smallish guard that you'll have on 1190 00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:18.440 your roster under contract for at least three or, four 1191 00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:21.480 years depending on how the rookie contract. Plays Out the 1192 00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.840 jazz need length and they need athletes. They Need the 1193 00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:28.320 jazz have been historically pathetic defensively for two. Straight years 1194 00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:32.000 that another smallish guard who doesn't feel like he has 1195 00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:34.400 the length and the athleticism to exist IN the nba 1196 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:37.840 just feels like the. Wrong MOVE and i cannot coroborate 1197 00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:40.360 or speak to what is going On With. Ace bailey, 1198 00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.199 and no he didn't measure at six' ten like we. 1199 00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:45.519 Thought he would he ended up about six or. EIGHT 1200 00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:48.440 without shoes i hate the. Without shoes thing it's the dumbest. 1201 00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:51.719 Thing we do you wear shoes when, you play basketball. 1202 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:54.320 MEASURE in shoes i don't care how tall. You are 1203 00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:57.639 barefoot we're not playing Pickup ball in africa like. We 1204 00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.920 wear shoes it's. The DUMBEST thing so i wouldn't Mind 1205 00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:04.199 if the jazz Landed on as bailey at five based 1206 00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:06.119 off the intel all year long that had him as 1207 00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:08.480 one of the, top three, prospects because no he's, not 1208 00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:11.519 six ten but at least he's six's eight, with long 1209 00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:15.119 arms a seven, to two wingspan seven to, one wing 1210 00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.719 span and he was the number three prospect pretty much 1211 00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:21.079 all year long before this chaos kind of fell on 1212 00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:22.960 him as a result of him not working. Out For 1213 00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:27.519 teams trey johnson about, six' five okay one to, ninety 1214 00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:31.800 six' ten, wingspan standing reach, eight five and to me 1215 00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:35.519 he at least has the, upside of being. A great 1216 00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.639 great offensive, player it can. Really, shoot it can initiate yes. 1217 00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:40.519 All these players are young we don't know. What they're going, 1218 00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:43.280 to be and that's why whether IT'S college football, recruits 1219 00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.960 or nba draft picks you have to proceed with a 1220 00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:50.519 tremendous amount of caution. Before you anoint or dismiss it's simply. 1221 00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:54.119 Going to take, some time gavoni's latest mock there's not 1222 00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:56.280 a ton of local interest. In the draft this Year 1223 00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:59.360 The One. Name is yegor yegor demon at One point 1224 00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:01.360 he was just i'm as. High as ten or Eleven 1225 01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:05.519 his latest mock Has jegar going thirteen To Atlanta, to 1226 01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:08.239 play for quinn snyder which would, still be a lottery 1227 01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:11.360 pick but. LATE lottery pick at That i do wonder 1228 01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:13.880 and i've heard, some people talk about this and certainly 1229 01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:17.800 some people write About This the whole like ryan smith 1230 01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:21.199 IS A. Massive donor to byu basketball he's one of 1231 01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:25.519 THE Alums that CARES About Byu. Basketball and byu electic 1232 01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:28.880 department so he clearly is, part of not the ENTIRETY 1233 01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:32.840 but part of bankrolling byu basketball to give them the 1234 01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:34.719 funds they need to bring In Talent. To play for 1235 01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:37.599 kevin young he is. DONATING a lot of money. I 1236 01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:39.519 don't know how much i don't. Have access to that 1237 01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:42.400 information but one of the things that people have talked 1238 01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.559 about is is there anything About that that? Can benefit 1239 01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:48.920 ryan's pro team and while, my initial reaction IS no 1240 01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:54.199 the only angle i could come up with Is the. Challenge, 1241 01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:56.960 that The jazz have well the jazz have a. Lot 1242 01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:59.679 of challenges right now they're one of the two or THREE. 1243 01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:02.559 Worst rosters in the nba it's, going to be another really. 1244 01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:05.960 Really rough year next year but when you kind of 1245 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:09.079 pan back from the from the vacuum mindset and talk 1246 01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:11.400 about it for more of a, macro thirty thousand foot 1247 01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:14.000 view if you go all The way Back to after 1248 01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:17.719 john and, carl either retired or left the challenge that 1249 01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:21.679 this team has. Had is in, this city isn't drafting. 1250 01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:25.320 Well it isn't developing well it's retaining the, players you've 1251 01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:27.679 drafted AND developed because in the nba. It's a three 1252 01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:30.800 tier system, you have to draft, well you have to 1253 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:34.119 develop and. Then you have to retain the retention piece 1254 01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:36.199 is the one piece of this puzzle this team has not. 1255 01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:38.840 Been able to figure out so? Is there, anything There 1256 01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:42.360 Where for instance like jegor demon spoke Glowingly, ABOUT his 1257 01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:44.039 time in PROVO i think he met i, don't know 1258 01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:45.840 if they're engaged but he's dating A. Girl he met 1259 01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:49.039 at byu will that change when he sees other big? 1260 01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:51.960 CITIES and experiences. Other places i don't know but is 1261 01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:56.559 there anything that we could draw from a great Experience 1262 01:01:56.719 --> 01:02:00.960 from a. Player that ryan helps hire that's. The way 1263 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.519 to PUT, it To play for, byu that ryan HELPS, 1264 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:07.599 buy to pay for byu and they HAVE a good 1265 01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:10.840 experience at, byu and in our state and then therefore 1266 01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.079 would be more likely To stay here, if the, jazz 1267 01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:16.360 draft them developed them, and then able to retain which 1268 01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:18.440 is the one piece of the puzzle. This organization can't 1269 01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:21.159 figure out it still would be A Reach to take. 1270 01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:24.599 Jeg or deman at five but. Here's a Question to, 1271 01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.039 Ponder if you're jazz fans if You Have a guarantee 1272 01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:30.320 that yegor demon will Play His Entire career In Salt 1273 01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:34.880 lake city and trey johnson will leave, in six or 1274 01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:38.440 seven years who would you rather have Six Or seven 1275 01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:40.559 years of trey johnson are Twelve Or. Fourteen, years, OF 1276 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:43.400 yegor demon now again i, Want to be very Clear 1277 01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:45.519 i'm not Saying The jazz are, draft DIEGOR demin at 1278 01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:52.039 five but byu bought and essentially paid for Five Months 1279 01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:54.760 of basketball for aj debonsa to the. Tune of seven 1280 01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:56.719 million dollars ryan was one of the people that wrote 1281 01:02:56.719 --> 01:02:58.920 a check. To HELP make that happen, and i am 1282 01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:01.079 telling you if you have, no watched this kid play 1283 01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:03.679 he is everything he's cracked. UP to be and more 1284 01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:06.119 i don't think he would have been the number One Pick, 1285 01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:08.679 this year over cooper flag but he will be talked 1286 01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:11.880 about during the draft Process Next year the way cooper flag. 1287 01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:16.360 Is being Talked, about now so if aj who appears 1288 01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:18.880 to really being enjoying his Time, on the ground in 1289 01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:22.280 provo if there's an opportunity to grab a kid like 1290 01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:25.559 that who has experienced our. State and actually likes. It 1291 01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:29.719 Maybe there's something there maybe i'm reaching because of course 1292 01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:32.119 it's Not as easy as the jazz have to get 1293 01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:34.480 the NUMBER One, Pick to draft aj demonson but Maybe 1294 01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:37.800 THERE'S something there where ryan's i don't think. It's a 1295 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.679 conflict of interest i've heard a lot of people talk about. 1296 01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:42.880 That and write about. It That's not. My thing it's 1297 01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:44.679 ryan's money he can do. Whatever he wants WITH. It 1298 01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:47.519 he graduated from BYU. He very much loves Byu. He 1299 01:03:47.559 --> 01:03:51.920 also wants the jazz but in the spirit of trying 1300 01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:56.199 to figure out if, there's actually any synergies here maybe 1301 01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:59.519 that's the angle. That we could reach for it actually. Makes, Something, Out, 1302 01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:03.280 of It. Okay aj Debonca Jegor demon they KNOW ryan. 1303 01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:06.239 Smith as the byu BOOSTER he. Sits courtside a byu 1304 01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:08.480 games he jumps on the backs. Of coaches after they, 1305 01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:10.199 win it's a little weird but. That's kind of his. 1306 01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:13.440 Deal so They. Know, him they like utah Okay, they're 1307 01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:15.440 drafted by the jazz and they actually stay here for 1308 01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:17.559 longer than a Few years because until the jazz can 1309 01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:21.239 get that third piece, of the puzzle dialed in and some, 1310 01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:26.480 Of These, Decisions Were, Trades Darren, Williams Gordon, Hayward Donovan. 1311 01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:30.480 MITCHELL rudy gobert carlos. Boozer i could keep going the 1312 01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.239 best players That we've had here since john carl retired 1313 01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:36.079 have stayed here for, a truncated amount of time and 1314 01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:39.280 then they've either been traded because they, got sideways with 1315 01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:41.599 a coach or they've, left On Their, own accord like 1316 01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:44.480 gordon hayward or they just decided they wanted to live 1317 01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:46.840 in a different city and forced their way out and 1318 01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:49.760 Basically ended, a Generation Of jazz. Basketball like donovan mitchell 1319 01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:54.199 did jazz have, been able to draft well they've. Been 1320 01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:56.920 able to develop well the final piece of the puzzle 1321 01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:00.320 is how do they retain long term to Maybe finally 1322 01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:02.880 do something special because the fact of the matter is 1323 01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:06.440 we have not had A Championship Contending team in salt lake. City, 1324 01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:10.000 since nineteen ninety seven, okay that's twenty eight years and that's. 1325 01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:11.559 Just the, reality of it we have, we've had. Some 1326 01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:14.320 good teams another one we're kicking the tires. On potentially, 1327 01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:16.599 winning a championship all right will catch you break coming. 1328 01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:18.480 Up on the other SIDE big, news out of byu 1329 01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:20.599 today big news out of. 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On his way to 1368 01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:09.519 provo but among THESE staff Members Over at kutv, is heidi. 1369 01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:13.639 Hatch Lovely lady good friend and i'm seeing a. TWEET 1370 01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:17.039 she's sending out porter i. Want your take on this this. 1371 01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:23.480 Is catching me off guard most dangerous college Towns, In, Twenty, Twenty, Five, Gainesville, 1372 01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:28.840 Florida Tuscaloose, Alabama. Tempe arizona New, haven connecticut Shout Out 1373 01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:33.199 Yale It's The, New, York What, Iowa, City, Iowa, East, Lansing, 1374 01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:39.719 michigan Bloomington Indiana, Logan. Utah And cedar city utah cedar city, 1375 01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:41.440 is not a. Real place by the, way that's an 1376 01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:44.360 Odd spot but you have is it? REALLY that dangerous down. 1377 01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:47.039 THERE i, don't think so i mean you feel. Like 1378 01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:48.159 this list is valid so. 1379 01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:52.599 These lists are. ALWAYS compiled, in interesting ways i mean? What, 1380 01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:57.400 Are you Considering dangerous listen i'm sure logan has had if, 1381 01:07:57.440 --> 01:07:59.840 you look at the stats they've had a big issue 1382 01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:02.880 with sexual assault And the reporting thereof so i'm sure 1383 01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:05.679 that played. Into them, Making that list in fact I'M 1384 01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:09.920 almost positive because the doj had to Put Their Foot. 1385 01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:13.760 Down in logan cedar. City one's interesting to me? Is 1386 01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:16.560 it like car crashes is THAT the is that? On 1387 01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:19.960 i eighty, down there but you, know let me. 1388 01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:21.840 Pull this let me. Pull this Up real quick, according 1389 01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:25.520 to heidi crime, statistics per ten? Thousand people is there 1390 01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:27.800 ten are there Even Ten? Thousand? People in. Cedar city 1391 01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:32.039 yeah there are. That's growing quite A Bit Data Source 1392 01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:35.760 FROM Fbi Uniform. Crime reporting ucr local reporting we're available 1393 01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:39.000 cities towns that are home to major. Universities or Large Student, 1394 01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:42.359 populations respect to cedar city is it really a major? 1395 01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:45.119 City with a, LARGE institution ALL due respect. 1396 01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:50.239 I mean i, guess according TO certain, Parameters, That's Su 1397 01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:55.079 U right yes southern utah, Thunderbirds Shout. Out our, guy delane. 1398 01:08:55.079 --> 01:08:58.880 Fitzgerald. Oh yes that's right Yes What's the difference BETWEEN 1399 01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:01.039 Southern utah and you ta tech or whatever the? Hell 1400 01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:04.439 they're calling to, now like eighty miles so but, they, Are, two, 1401 01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:07.319 different institutions, Correct okay yes all Right we're. 1402 01:09:07.319 --> 01:09:07.520 Gonna. 1403 01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:10.039 Bring in ryles TODAY boy, LOOK it's like i said 1404 01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:12.880 I Just, got back from saint george and it. Is 1405 01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:15.520 such a. Weird place it just is, We Talked About 1406 01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:19.920 this yesterday black Desert Resort. Technically not in saint George, 1407 01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:21.920 but everything down there Porter To me Is. EITHER saint 1408 01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:25.479 george or mesquite i. Don't. EVERYTHING else, is whatever yeah. 1409 01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:26.680 I mean if you're on, one side Of The. Gorge 1410 01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:28.560 you're in saint george, if you're on the other. 1411 01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:29.279 YOU'RE in the skid. 1412 01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:31.720 Area i feel you there there's there's not much use 1413 01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:34.159 in parsing it when you're just kind of building a 1414 01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:36.640 sprawl and. Extending it throughout the desert. 1415 01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:38.560 You can throw cards on one side of the gorge 1416 01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:40.319 and you. Cannot, on the, other exactly. 1417 01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:43.399 Okay that's uh that's accurate you do, Some other things. 1418 01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:46.000 There, too yes you, can well let's be clear you 1419 01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:48.520 can do whatever. You want wherever you're at just some 1420 01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:50.319 things are legal. And some things, Are, not this is, 1421 01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:53.760 true Okay. This is true so Porter among the duties 1422 01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:56.680 that porter, has at this, radio station which Are plentiful 1423 01:09:57.159 --> 01:09:59.840 he hosts our. Utah football preff. And post he really 1424 01:09:59.880 --> 01:10:02.039 is he like our main football, Guy Here. On the 1425 01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:05.960 station ryder lions porter has signed to play his COLLEGE, 1426 01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:09.560 football at the at byu So he Turned. Down the 1427 01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:13.680 university of OREGON he was looking at, usc where his 1428 01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:18.560 brother plays and He elected to Play for kilane and a, 1429 01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:21.039 rod friends, of the show of course. And bring him on, 1430 01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:25.439 University according to and look i'm Not going to Pretend 1431 01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:27.840 That i've. Been, Grinding ryder lions tape okay i'm just 1432 01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:30.159 reading about him over the past couple of weeks after 1433 01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:33.279 the rumors surface he MIGHT. Come and play for, byu 1434 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:36.399 he's very highly. Regarded barely highly thought of he. Will 1435 01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:39.520 not be available IMMEDIATELY he will serve an lds mission 1436 01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:42.680 then be on. Campus in twenty twenty SEVEN we're gonna 1437 01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:44.439 have some byu guests round the course of the. Week 1438 01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:48.239 to talk about this this feels LIKE the football. EQUIVALENT 1439 01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:53.199 of aj debantsa no aj might be more in a 1440 01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:55.199 class of his own because he is the number one 1441 01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:59.760 recruit as far. As, his peers this, year so first 1442 01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:01.680 of all your thoughts on by you've been, able to 1443 01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:04.399 get this done and then your thoughts on what this 1444 01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:06.600 does as far as a shot maybe Across the Bow. 1445 01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:10.520 For, The University, OF utah, ultimately rider lions i mean 1446 01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:13.520 one of the top recruits in the in the. Country 1447 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:20.319 and as a quarterback THAT'S really the target. That byu 1448 01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:24.159 had this offseason this was the one they wanted to 1449 01:11:24.159 --> 01:11:27.319 get on, sign on the dotted line and you. 1450 01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:27.720 Just look at. 1451 01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:31.520 The, numbers he's, really good now for me you don't 1452 01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:34.359 look at like one player. In recruiting as a success. 1453 01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:36.560 It's more about the trends it's more about. The numbers 1454 01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:40.159 year to year it's more, about. What you're doing consistently 1455 01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:44.680 right but this is a player that you almost expect 1456 01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:50.239 to contend for or at least push for that job 1457 01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:53.840 in provo the. Second he steps. On campus YOU mentioned. 1458 01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:56.359 It he's an lds kid, he's going on a mission 1459 01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:59.680 so that's. Gonna wait a little. While but THAT'S it's, 1460 01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:03.560 huge and like i said the bigger story here, today is, 1461 01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:06.840 not that they you know got a. Top one hundred 1462 01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:09.520 committed quarterback it's the fact that it adds on to, 1463 01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:12.760 what is now a trend which is always what. You 1464 01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:15.880 look at in recruiting they now have three top one, 1465 01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:20.680 hundred recruits this signing class including Two. From the state 1466 01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:23.119 of utah one of, them is a pass catcher one, 1467 01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:25.800 of THEM throws the ball and i think one of 1468 01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:30.079 them is. Going to protect your quarterback so, they're stockpiling 1469 01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:34.439 in important, positions and as you mentioned they are doing 1470 01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:38.039 it with what appears to be a really good. Backing, 1471 01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:40.960 on the nil side now a Little different, than the 1472 01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:44.479 aj debous situation just because this is a kid who 1473 01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:48.399 HE grew. Up with some BYU, connections he is a 1474 01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:51.680 lds so there was at least. A foot in the 1475 01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:56.319 door the demands of stuff for. Me is even more 1476 01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:58.119 wild it just kind of came. More out, of left 1477 01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:01.640 field but YEAH big big Deal. For byu, AND for 1478 01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:05.279 utah you know i don't ever take recruiting, is like 1479 01:13:05.319 --> 01:13:08.520 a direct shot but when you're going head to head 1480 01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:11.840 and when you measure yourself, up against your direct rival 1481 01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:14.399 and especially when you're doing, it in The same, conference 1482 01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:18.680 now the big twelve you're definitely paying attention to what 1483 01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:20.960 they're doing and hopefully adding. 1484 01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:24.399 Some, URGENCY on, your side yeah i, mean it's just 1485 01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:28.159 to me underscores the bigger picture of this, dynamic that's 1486 01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:30.560 kind of unfolded and we talked about. It To start 1487 01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:34.880 the show according. I'VE got ESPN's rankings up i know 1488 01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:38.079 two four seven does some stuff, and some other you 1489 01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:42.279 know some other. Outlets HAVE their own rankings even i believe. 1490 01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:44.840 This is up to date even With The news today 1491 01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:49.199 the RIDER. LIONS has committed, to byu espn has them 1492 01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:52.960 according to, the twenty twenty six rankings just on the outside. 1493 01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:55.880 Of the top twenty, Five so according to this, TENNESSEE 1494 01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:59.399 would be twenty six, Byu would be, Twenty Seven auburn twenty, 1495 01:13:59.399 --> 01:14:02.159 Eight Boston college twenty nine florida state. Thirty for twenty, 1496 01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:07.399 twenty six and you know you add this current recruiting 1497 01:14:07.439 --> 01:14:10.680 cycle as porter Of Reference. Tight end, from saint george 1498 01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:14.640 ironically enough, highly thought of defensive tackle an old ligneman 1499 01:14:14.720 --> 01:14:16.560 that are all. In the top one, HUNDRED when the 1500 01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:19.920 dust settles byu might have a top twenty recruiting class for. 1501 01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:23.079 The twenty twenty six cycle that certainly would be, their 1502 01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:26.439 highest recruiting class ever not JUST under kilane. From what 1503 01:14:26.479 --> 01:14:29.319 i read, Today if this is accurate BYU's best recruiting 1504 01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:32.680 class was twenty ten and it. WAS a top thirty 1505 01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:35.279 class i think. They finished at number thirty so, if they, 1506 01:14:35.319 --> 01:14:37.279 can creep up you, know into the top twenty it 1507 01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:40.039 would be historic on. A number of different levels but 1508 01:14:40.119 --> 01:14:43.640 it just KIND of underscores this current i think we 1509 01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:46.079 have enough data now to call it a trend, Where 1510 01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:52.119 for about a decade utah had A clear innate advantage over. 1511 01:14:52.239 --> 01:14:56.800 Byu in one main area i've always said two things if. 1512 01:14:56.840 --> 01:14:58.520 You listen to, The, show first, of all hello? Thank 1513 01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:00.000 you how, Are you second of all. I've always sa, 1514 01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:05.880 two things, two two incidents two Circumstances two situations catapulled 1515 01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:09.479 the utah football into this era OF. Dominance over their 1516 01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:14.199 rival byu it was a. Generation of youth football dominance and. 1517 01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:17.079 There are, two Reasons why number one as kyle said 1518 01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:20.119 no to his Alma. Mater and Yes to utah IF 1519 01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:22.760 coach wit took The byu job, BACK after urban took 1520 01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:25.600 off i don't know what this. Era would have Looked 1521 01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:30.119 like that's How Important, Kyle Is, to utah football utah. 1522 01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:32.760 Athletics the community Up here. That's who Coach wit. Is 1523 01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:35.960 he is utah's levelle. There will be a, statue he 1524 01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:37.880 doesn't love it but there will be a statue bill. 1525 01:15:37.960 --> 01:15:40.600 As soon as. He's Done, That's number one NUMBER two 1526 01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:44.960 utah gets THE pac twelve invite and byu IS left 1527 01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:49.039 out looking at, byu makes, a reactionary move and yes 1528 01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:51.279 it was no matter what sort of spin you want 1529 01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:53.600 to put because you don't, LOVE uncomfortable truths down there 1530 01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:58.399 byu makes the, reactionary move to go independent, which was 1531 01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:00.840 a big risk but it was probably the only course 1532 01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:03.880 of action as Opposed To staying in the mountain west 1533 01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:07.159 conference going, to find your own. Way which will, tough 1534 01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:09.279 Ask Which is why as tom, homer walks out THE door, 1535 01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:11.199 if you're a byu fan you owe that man, a, 1536 01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:15.960 debt of gratitude. Forever period end of story but, because 1537 01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.399 of Those two dynamics because Of kyle saying yes TO, 1538 01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:21.680 utah And know to Byu and utah, receiving THE pac 1539 01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:25.000 twelve invite and byu in, A reactionary move going independent 1540 01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.119 utah was able to build up a clear advantage over 1541 01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:32.439 the course of a. Generation fifteen years or so what's happened, 1542 01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:34.560 over the past three years maybe, even a little, bit 1543 01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:37.359 longer about four years is the shoes, now on the 1544 01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:43.119 other foot where there's No longer any CLEAR. Advantage utah 1545 01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:48.039 has over Byu both. Are in the Big Twelve, You 1546 01:16:48.039 --> 01:16:51.560 Can thank larry scott george kliovkoff a number of different 1547 01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:55.359 mitigating factors all kind of combined to collapse the Home. 1548 01:16:55.439 --> 01:16:58.960 For FOOTBALL in, the west the pac twelve, which continues 1549 01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:01.640 to be WILD will never be something i can say 1550 01:17:01.640 --> 01:17:04.800 out loud without having some sort, of VISCERAL like body 1551 01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:06.800 reaction like i still can't believe, how it all went. 1552 01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:11.560 Down But it went, down the pac Twelve died AND 1553 01:17:11.920 --> 01:17:15.680 now Both utah and, Byu are big twelve. Teams big 1554 01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:19.079 twelve athletic departments utah a full. SHARE, member from day, 1555 01:17:19.119 --> 01:17:21.880 one byu for whatever reason still, not a full share 1556 01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:25.439 member but they're. Still in the same conference there's no 1557 01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:29.199 longer an innate advantage for one or the other based 1558 01:17:29.239 --> 01:17:31.560 off of the home of where they. Find Themselves for, their, 1559 01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:35.039 athletics it's big twelve, PERIOD so even playing FIELD i 1560 01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:37.560 think next year byu, becomes a full share. MEMBER maybe 1561 01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:40.079 the year after, i, think it's next year though so 1562 01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:43.039 they'll both be able to have the same share of, 1563 01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:45.520 the spoils from the conference which, is in A, good 1564 01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:48.840 place Not The. Sec not the, big ten we know 1565 01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:50.680 that and maybe at some point that, will become a 1566 01:17:50.680 --> 01:17:54.079 different reality, because this is a, sport namely in college, 1567 01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:57.720 football but also a, landscape namely in college athletics that 1568 01:17:57.800 --> 01:18:01.239 continues to shift under our feet, and will, Continue to 1569 01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:04.960 change and honestly i've come to an area of radical 1570 01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:08.600 acceptance for those of you that love therapy that the 1571 01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:12.720 only consistent with all this stuff will be, changed and 1572 01:18:12.800 --> 01:18:15.159 will be chaos and we'll be, lawsuits and will be 1573 01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:19.600 appeals and we'll all clutch our pearls over certain, things 1574 01:18:19.680 --> 01:18:22.920 during The off season and Then august comes and then 1575 01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:25.000 saturday's in the, fall, come, and it's like oh yeah 1576 01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:26.760 this is why we do the thing because this is 1577 01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:29.680 so fun and it's so enjoyable. In so many different, 1578 01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:33.479 ways but the other thing, clearly THAT fell into place 1579 01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:36.640 as i talked about, when it actually went down that 1580 01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:41.119 has really shifted, this entire area of momentum Clearly In 1581 01:18:41.159 --> 01:18:43.039 the direction of brigham young, at least as of now, 1582 01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:47.039 at least. As of today is nil is the ability 1583 01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:50.399 to write checks for young men and young women that 1584 01:18:50.439 --> 01:18:54.640 you want to. Come PLAY sports free institution and i 1585 01:18:54.760 --> 01:18:58.439 do view this whenever there's news That comes Down like 1586 01:18:58.479 --> 01:19:01.159 an aja, DE bonsa or a writer i do View 1587 01:19:01.199 --> 01:19:04.399 this as something that utah has, to look at and 1588 01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:05.880 say how do? We get some of? That what do 1589 01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:09.279 we do and it's. MUCH easier said than done i 1590 01:19:09.279 --> 01:19:12.319 can pontificate on. Possibilities on this RADIO show, As much 1591 01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:14.479 as i want i'm Not an Administrator, at The University, 1592 01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:17.880 Of utah Not Mark, carlin i'm not taylor randall both of, 1593 01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:20.840 whom are very, Capable leaders and you know i'm sure 1594 01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:24.239 they'll be. Able to traverse this space but how do 1595 01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:27.520 you answer it if you. Don't HAVE the same resources and, 1596 01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:29.399 I let me be clear i don't know if they do. 1597 01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:31.720 Or if they do not we're JUST Talking. About it, 1598 01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:37.000 the lds. Church it's members the community they understand, the 1599 01:19:37.039 --> 01:19:41.520 power of the purse, and when granted with opportunities they 1600 01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:45.880 clearly have. Been prepared, for this moment and no your 1601 01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:48.479 tithing dollars are not. GOING to pay these players i 1602 01:19:48.479 --> 01:19:50.520 know we have to be very clear about certain things that. 1603 01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:54.680 JUST get people so weird i understand that. THE church 1604 01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:57.319 isn't doing this i, understand this isn't tithing money but 1605 01:19:57.399 --> 01:20:02.000 what it is IS checks written by powerful byu alumni 1606 01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:06.239 and boosters. THAT care about the program, i CONTINUE to 1607 01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:08.199 reference this and i also want To be Very clear 1608 01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:10.199 because i'm SURE i'll be aggregated AS i am. Every 1609 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:14.319 time i say this this information came to me about, 1610 01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:18.560 A year ago or SO a little less that byu 1611 01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:24.079 had ELEVEN seven figure. DONORS while utah had three i 1612 01:20:24.079 --> 01:20:26.920 don't know what the, up TO date number is and 1613 01:20:27.119 --> 01:20:29.640 i don't have any. DOCUMENTS to back that Up i 1614 01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:32.760 don't have any Grandma Requests or whatever the chris camaradi's 1615 01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:34.880 or on. Faulks of the world do this was just 1616 01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:36.800 told TO me by somebody who i will. Tell you 1617 01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:42.680 would absolutely know, So IF that's the reality if byu 1618 01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:45.960 right now is operating with the different sort of, power 1619 01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:52.000 of the Purse, Resources economic ability than utah utah has 1620 01:20:52.079 --> 01:20:54.079 to find a way to even that playing field. Because 1621 01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:57.159 the pendulum has shifted it just. Has for a long 1622 01:20:57.199 --> 01:21:00.399 time it was In The direction of the UNIVERSITY utah 1623 01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:02.680 because of their p FIVE at the time now p 1624 01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:05.520 Four advantage of, being A pack twelve. School while byu 1625 01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:10.000 was independent it clearly caused a chasm between the two 1626 01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:13.239 athletic departments and, clearly The two football teams where, utah 1627 01:21:13.319 --> 01:21:15.880 was the dominant side, not just head to head, But 1628 01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:20.199 From a macro viewpoint rose BOWLS packed twelve championships and 1629 01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:23.439 Byu Was in like The Potato bowl or. The hawaii 1630 01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:25.840 bowl or whatever it was playing for nothing against teams, 1631 01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:28.199 that more often, than not weren't very good and it 1632 01:21:28.199 --> 01:21:30.760 was hard to. Measure where they were at it WAS 1633 01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:33.079 hard to measure where byu was at because the schedule 1634 01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:36.560 was really really bad for the, most part UMass and 1635 01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:40.000 such and they just weren't tested week in and week 1636 01:21:40.039 --> 01:21:43.800 out against some of the class teams in college football 1637 01:21:43.840 --> 01:21:46.880 because they did. Not Have a conference home so tom 1638 01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:49.199 and his daft did his best to. Get the scheduling 1639 01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:51.680 dialed in they GET a good deal with espn so 1640 01:21:51.720 --> 01:21:53.760 they can at least have a television platform and, the 1641 01:21:53.760 --> 01:21:58.119 support of that network and that COMPANY was big to 1642 01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:02.159 help byu tread water until, they found a conference home 1643 01:22:02.199 --> 01:22:04.239 which Was. Always the goal of tom he was. Very 1644 01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:06.279 front facing about, it, he was never like, yeah this 1645 01:22:06.359 --> 01:22:08.880 independent thing rules we. Want to do this Forever There. 1646 01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:11.239 Is ONLY one notre dame and i always laughed at 1647 01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:13.560 the hubris OF certain members of the byu community who 1648 01:22:13.560 --> 01:22:15.399 believed that they. Could, exist on. That level, well you. 1649 01:22:15.399 --> 01:22:17.079 Couldn't you tried you didn't you were never, going to 1650 01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:18.560 be able to. And no one, else could By The. 1651 01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:18.760 Way. 1652 01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:23.279 There's One notre dame okay so tom. Was never long 1653 01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:27.479 for independence. There wasn't anything he wanted he at some 1654 01:22:27.640 --> 01:22:31.239 point was very adamant, about finding a, landing spot which 1655 01:22:31.279 --> 01:22:33.880 They Did. Which, was the big twelve now there were 1656 01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:37.159 several mitigating, factors, that led to that okay but it 1657 01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:40.800 doesn't matter. What the avenue looked like the whole point. 1658 01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:44.159 Is what the destination manifested and THAT is a Home for, 1659 01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:47.600 byu in the big twelve so tested week in and 1660 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:49.960 week out now against some of the. Best, teams in 1661 01:22:49.960 --> 01:22:51.840 the Country No it's not THE, big ten or the 1662 01:22:51.880 --> 01:22:54.119 sec but. It is what it is it's a good 1663 01:22:54.199 --> 01:23:00.319 home for now. Until the next shift comes now that 1664 01:23:00.359 --> 01:23:02.920 the playing field was even when the two schools were 1665 01:23:03.039 --> 01:23:07.600 invited into THE same conference after the pac twelve falls right. 1666 01:23:07.640 --> 01:23:09.760 In front of our eyes utah jump ship and they 1667 01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:13.199 are probably a little bit fortunate to get the landing spot, 1668 01:23:13.239 --> 01:23:15.600 they were able To receive which is WHY Mark's comments after, 1669 01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:18.920 the byu utah football game we're like fingernails on a. 1670 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:22.439 Chalkboard for so many people so. Not even, the playing 1671 01:23:22.439 --> 01:23:25.960 field but NOW what has really given byu this advantage 1672 01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:29.760 is the ability to pay these kids and do not 1673 01:23:29.920 --> 01:23:33.720 listen to. THE spin that's. Coming out i love it. It, 1674 01:23:34.119 --> 01:23:38.479 makes me so happy yes paying these players is part 1675 01:23:38.479 --> 01:23:41.800 of the reason that they HAVE. Decided to play For 1676 01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:46.159 byu i'm sure Aj debonsa wouldn't. Live in Provo For 1677 01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:48.800 nothing i'm sure ryder lions is receiving. A very nice 1678 01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:53.079 nil CHECK it's. Not about the byu experience. It's not 1679 01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:56.720 about developing character it's about, a number of different, things, 1680 01:23:57.119 --> 01:24:01.079 one OF which is now why byu has this massive Advantage, 1681 01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:03.479 in the moment over, utah which is deep pockets in. 1682 01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:06.199 The power of the purse and Really the onus. Is, 1683 01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:09.079 on utah to answer now we don't know what it's, 1684 01:24:09.079 --> 01:24:10.840 gonna look like this year and We don't know what 1685 01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:13.079 rider lines is gonna look. LIKE in, twenty twenty seven 1686 01:24:13.119 --> 01:24:17.840 i mean How many big time recruits like big time. 1687 01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:21.720 Recruits have never panned out. It happens all the. Time, 1688 01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:25.000 these Are young people okay so, i'm not anointing anybody 1689 01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:29.319 today but if, we're honest about the situation, over the 1690 01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:33.039 past few years the MOMENTUM, has shifted down to Byu 1691 01:24:33.159 --> 01:24:35.439 and now. It's on utah to answer we'll see what 1692 01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:38.119 they do and we'll see. What the results bear out 1693 01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:40.920 the great thing about sports. Is we have a scoreboard. 1694 01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:42.760 We have a final score we actually have a way. 1695 01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:45.520 To tally winners and losers it is. The ultimate zero 1696 01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:48.520 some game but we'll see what THE results bear out 1697 01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:51.439 for byu because the momentum certainly. Is heading in that 1698 01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:54.840 direction so if you think, THE track is a banger 1699 01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:57.600 i will encourage you to go to YouTube and look 1700 01:24:57.680 --> 01:25:00.760 Up The. Music video FOR jericho road this is I? Believe? 1701 01:25:00.800 --> 01:25:00.960 It's? 1702 01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:02.920 Inside of me porter correct is that? The name of, 1703 01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:03.319 this track. 1704 01:25:03.439 --> 01:25:09.039 That's The correct correct name Jerich. Co wrote inside of me. 1705 01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:12.600 It's a good DAY. To HAVE a little jr as i, 1706 01:25:12.680 --> 01:25:15.920 call them on the program because it's a big day FOR. 1707 01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:18.520 Our friends down at byu but, The Voice, of the youths, Bill. 1708 01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:21.399 Riley is our guest riles are you properly pumped up after? 1709 01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:22.680 THAT track bringing you in. 1710 01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:24.399 I didn't know. 1711 01:25:24.439 --> 01:25:27.279 The name of that track i'm a little troubled by 1712 01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:30.039 the name of that track based, on the, Boy band 1713 01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:34.399 themselves but Yes i'm quite thrilled that porter was able to. 1714 01:25:34.439 --> 01:25:36.760 Find that, banger for us fair enough. 1715 01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:39.479 Fair enough For Old. School Bill And spence fan somehow 1716 01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:43.279 jericho road became intertwined into our program back. In the 1717 01:25:43.279 --> 01:25:46.439 Mid Two, thousands our Producer jason shepherd who WORE GENE, 1718 01:25:46.439 --> 01:25:48.479 SCHWORTZS now with byu. 1719 01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:48.800 Tv. 1720 01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:51.399 I think was responsible, bill, we've landed on that right. That's, 1721 01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:53.159 How that went down yeah. 1722 01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:55.319 I'm. Pretty sure it was there Were You more of 1723 01:25:55.319 --> 01:25:58.800 An Abe mills or A Brett bryce or a, dave 1724 01:25:58.920 --> 01:25:59.720 kimball guy. 1725 01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:02.439 Their names that's a level i'm. 1726 01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:02.560 Not. 1727 01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:04.840 Prepared to go to bill. You just looked that up 1728 01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:06.640 there's no way you knew that off. The top of your. 1729 01:26:06.520 --> 01:26:11.479 Head there MIGHT be a wikipedia. Page, i, was looking At. 1730 01:26:11.399 --> 01:26:15.359 Yeah, well shout, Out jericho wrote all right ryles look 1731 01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:19.680 highly touted. Recruits OFTENTIMES never work out So I don't 1732 01:26:19.720 --> 01:26:21.560 know what rider lions is GOING, to look like for 1733 01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:24.560 byu but it IS a big day for byu, football 1734 01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:27.800 fans in the program as they have dialed in one 1735 01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:30.399 of THE, top five according to espn one of the 1736 01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:33.439 top five quarterback recruits of. THE twenty twenty six class 1737 01:26:33.800 --> 01:26:35.840 i don't know if this is The. Football equivalent of 1738 01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:38.399 aj debonsa that's Kind of the spin that i've heard 1739 01:26:38.439 --> 01:26:40.720 from a LOT. Of people that cover byu but it 1740 01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:43.600 really does bring IN a larger topic that i was 1741 01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:45.479 excited To have you on the rundown today because you'd 1742 01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:47.920 be good, with this, as YOU know you know The 1743 01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:51.800 pap twelve ADVANTAGE that utah had over byu when they 1744 01:26:51.800 --> 01:26:55.680 were independent really allowed coach with to build a program 1745 01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:59.880 that was dominant over its rival. For a, generation playing 1746 01:27:00.039 --> 01:27:02.039 fields even now isn't it? Feels a little bit different 1747 01:27:02.079 --> 01:27:03.479 do you think this is a sign of the times 1748 01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:05.239 or what's your reaction to The news? Coming, OUT of 1749 01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:06.880 provo today well i mean. 1750 01:27:07.119 --> 01:27:11.640 IT'S obviously, a good git i mean you'll land a 1751 01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:15.159 kid that's, As highly rated as that. That's that's a good, git, 1752 01:27:15.279 --> 01:27:17.760 YOU hit on it though i, mean in the football 1753 01:27:17.840 --> 01:27:21.920 world there's as many hits as there are miss probably more, 1754 01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:27.359 misses with highly touted quarterbacks probably more in football, than 1755 01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:30.359 there are in basketball, because, at least in BASKETBALL spence 1756 01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:33.479 you have the aau circuit where. You're playing against like 1757 01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:38.279 competition if you were asking me who's more Likely to 1758 01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:42.520 be the hit ajdbansa or the kid that they, GOT 1759 01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:45.560 the commitment from today I, would probably lean to bansa 1760 01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:50.079 JUST simply because basketball projections i think. Are, EASIER than 1761 01:27:50.079 --> 01:27:53.600 football projections plus i think this young man is going 1762 01:27:53.640 --> 01:27:55.439 to be going out on a mission for a couple 1763 01:27:55.439 --> 01:27:57.920 of years. And coming back to play. So we'll see 1764 01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:01.680 what happens, But, BACK to the question yeah i think 1765 01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:03.560 getting out of the realm. 1766 01:28:03.319 --> 01:28:07.039 Of Independence and getting in a power four LEAGUE has 1767 01:28:07.119 --> 01:28:11.399 certainly been a i don't know if it, completely levels 1768 01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:14.079 the playing field but it feels like the playing field 1769 01:28:14.159 --> 01:28:17.039 is a whole lot more level than it was, three or. 1770 01:28:17.039 --> 01:28:18.359 Four, years ago, for sure. 1771 01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:21.920 Yeah and look it's. A twenty, twenty six class you 1772 01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:23.760 know as of now the up to day rankings, this 1773 01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:26.159 Is two four seven as utah Is at sixty nine. 1774 01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:29.359 And BYU's, At twenty seven excuse me by's at thirty 1775 01:28:29.359 --> 01:28:32.159 one with the news today that bumps, them up to 1776 01:28:32.199 --> 01:28:35.199 thirty one and these, Are all just you know i've 1777 01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:37.399 always rolled my eyes of the arbitrary nature of the 1778 01:28:37.479 --> 01:28:40.000 ranking system Because we know that coach witt and his 1779 01:28:40.079 --> 01:28:43.680 staff have made a living of developing players that weren't 1780 01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:47.600 necessarily highly regarded coming out OF high. School INTO oftentimes 1781 01:28:47.680 --> 01:28:51.640 nfl players but i wonder how you would articulate or 1782 01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:55.520 simply add some color and context Of the conversation about 1783 01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:58.760 whether utah is in the place that they need to 1784 01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:01.119 be in with the collective and the nils and the 1785 01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:03.680 supports in the community that it appears By US very 1786 01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:04.119 much in. 1787 01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:05.920 Bill i, think, From. 1788 01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:09.079 A football, SIDE absolutely spence i mean i think we 1789 01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:12.319 saw ON the basketball side that byu, has got very 1790 01:29:12.399 --> 01:29:15.880 deep pockets not just for this state but frankly for. 1791 01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:19.439 The landscape of college basketball, BUT on The football side 1792 01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:20.680 i think utah is. 1793 01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:23.119 In as good a position as they've been in and. Probably, 1794 01:29:23.199 --> 01:29:25.359 As good a position again i'm, not PRIVY to the 1795 01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:28.159 numbers but i talk to People around the program and 1796 01:29:28.840 --> 01:29:31.399 i've not gotten any sense that they don't have all the. 1797 01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:35.399 Resources they need to, COMPETE and to be fair, i 1798 01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:39.119 mean it's you know. There's different levels, to this there's 1799 01:29:39.199 --> 01:29:44.199 the elite elite programs that have deep. Pockets AND resources 1800 01:29:44.239 --> 01:29:46.720 and Things but i think both utah and. By you're in, 1801 01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:49.560 good Position and you know again i'm not able, to 1802 01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:54.479 comment specifically on recruits but in this recruiting cycle over, 1803 01:29:54.520 --> 01:29:57.920 THE last couple of days i think both programs have done. 1804 01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:01.239 Very well going after guys last week was a big 1805 01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:05.359 Weekend of Visitors, for the university of utah and based 1806 01:30:05.399 --> 01:30:07.119 on some of the reports that have come out from 1807 01:30:07.159 --> 01:30:09.640 some of the recruiting services. And people to cover it over, 1808 01:30:09.680 --> 01:30:11.880 the last couple Of days it looks like utah's. Had 1809 01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:13.439 A good time too. 1810 01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:18.359 So i've Not gotten any sense that utah doesn't have. 1811 01:30:18.600 --> 01:30:21.800 The resources, they need to Be competitive especially. WITHIN the 1812 01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:23.880 big twelve conference i think WHEN you dip Into the, 1813 01:30:24.960 --> 01:30:29.560 SEC and the big ten i think you see programs 1814 01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:33.319 with maybe. A bigger financial bank role but In the 1815 01:30:33.319 --> 01:30:36.199 WORLD to both, UTAH and Byu play in i think. 1816 01:30:36.319 --> 01:30:39.520 Utah's every bit is Competitive is anybody in the? Big 1817 01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:40.479 twelve conference right. 1818 01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:42.720 Now do you ever get the sense that there is 1819 01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:46.560 A direct because the term i've been using today is 1820 01:30:46.680 --> 01:30:50.680 every time you know a big piece of news has 1821 01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:54.000 come OUT as a result OF byu landing, aj or 1822 01:30:54.039 --> 01:30:58.279 byu landing writer it does feel like maybe a Shot across, 1823 01:30:58.319 --> 01:31:02.319 the bow of utah because again back to the original point, 1824 01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:06.279 where we started the, Conversation for a decade, plus utah 1825 01:31:06.319 --> 01:31:10.159 simply had advantages built IN advantages because, of their pac 1826 01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:13.680 Twelve Inclusion and also because COACH witch said no To. 1827 01:31:13.720 --> 01:31:17.399 BYU and, yes to utah i MEAN those TWO seminal 1828 01:31:17.399 --> 01:31:21.520 moments i think uh really were the origin of what 1829 01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:24.720 was the birth of probably The most successful generation of 1830 01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:29.159 utah football and probably well not probably the most successful 1831 01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:32.359 linear Dynamic when it comes to UTAH simply being better 1832 01:31:32.439 --> 01:31:36.159 than byu more often than, not at, Football. WHEN good 1833 01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:37.239 good good. 1834 01:31:37.399 --> 01:31:41.239 No i was just, gonna say this to me is 1835 01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:44.039 a little bit like when you hire a coach and. You, win, 1836 01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:47.760 the press conference yeah great. We've won the press conference? 1837 01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:51.720 Well what HAPPENS after that here's What I will say 1838 01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:54.840 about utah and they're again they're landing. Free and four 1839 01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:57.039 star guys they're in the mix for a couple. Of 1840 01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:00.119 five STAR guys too but what I would say is 1841 01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:03.720 is utah's got a track record Over The entirety of 1842 01:32:03.760 --> 01:32:07.640 the kyle whittingham era of developing players AND. Putting him 1843 01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:11.560 in the nfl if, You want to stack numbers utah's 1844 01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:14.119 numbers over the last twenty years of guys that have 1845 01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:16.319 been drafted and are playing OR have played in THE. 1846 01:32:16.439 --> 01:32:21.640 Nfl DWARF those of byu now byu this past year 1847 01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:25.199 has won the press conference with a basketball recruit. And 1848 01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:28.960 today a football recruit but let's see what happens, moving 1849 01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:32.199 forward with those guys especially since we're in the football 1850 01:32:32.279 --> 01:32:35.239 realm on, The football side, of things because to me 1851 01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:38.840 it's great to win the, day and get that announcement 1852 01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:41.079 and the KID goes on a national tv show. And 1853 01:32:41.159 --> 01:32:45.119 puts a cap on but what happens once. He, gets 1854 01:32:45.119 --> 01:32:48.199 Into the program now maybe kilani's guys down there are 1855 01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:51.640 developing guys, better than they did before but The overall 1856 01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:54.680 numbers still say utah, has been the better program not 1857 01:32:54.760 --> 01:32:56.920 in the, last five or ten years but over the last, 1858 01:32:57.000 --> 01:33:00.640 twenty years, of finding kids developing kids and THEN. Putting 1859 01:33:00.680 --> 01:33:02.479 him in the nfl and if you want, to look, 1860 01:33:02.479 --> 01:33:05.920 At early projections this year utahs projected to have. Two 1861 01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:09.640 first raft offensive Linemen They weren't huge down spencer fino 1862 01:33:09.760 --> 01:33:12.479 was pretty highly touted, coming out Of, high school but 1863 01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:14.720 tayleab blome who was just a good middle of. The 1864 01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:18.119 Road three star recruit tao Johnson another kid out of 1865 01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:20.960 idaho that was. Another one of those kids but he's 1866 01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:24.159 being projected as a, nice draft pick as well maybe 1867 01:33:24.199 --> 01:33:26.640 not first. Round but Probably second day so. 1868 01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:29.560 And i'm. 1869 01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:31.399 Not downplaying this at all this IS a, if you're 1870 01:33:31.399 --> 01:33:34.159 a yu fan be thrilled because you landed. A really 1871 01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:38.720 good recruit Today but, if you're a utah Fan Your 1872 01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:43.119 track Record With morgan Scalley And kyle Whittingham And lewis 1873 01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:44.560 powell and jim Harding. 1874 01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:48.000 And all these sharif shaw you found guys that are 1875 01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:50.920 three star and four star and you've developed and made 1876 01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:52.600 them better AND. Put them, in the nfl to me 1877 01:33:52.760 --> 01:33:56.199 that's more important than winning the press. Conference or winning 1878 01:33:56.239 --> 01:33:57.640 the day with, THE recruiting side of. 1879 01:33:57.640 --> 01:33:59.960 It i agree with that, and to, Underscore Your point 1880 01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:03.720 you know ryder lyons is THE highest rated quarterback That 1881 01:34:03.800 --> 01:34:07.039 Buyu as signed since ben olsen, in two thousand and. 1882 01:34:07.039 --> 01:34:11.520 Two which, just didn't. Work you know he transferred he HE. 1883 01:34:11.560 --> 01:34:14.279 Never panned out at byu so your POINT is well 1884 01:34:14.319 --> 01:34:16.840 taken and. I certainly AGREE with that the question, i, 1885 01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:18.800 was going to ask though is do you get a 1886 01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:21.760 feel up there at all talking to people That days 1887 01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:25.239 like this are announcements like this do indicate maybe there's 1888 01:34:25.239 --> 01:34:26.880 a little bit of a change of momentum and they 1889 01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:28.560 take it as a shot. Across the bow at all 1890 01:34:28.560 --> 01:34:31.079 does it? RESONATE up there at, all I. 1891 01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:33.680 Don't think so because i think their laser focused on. 1892 01:34:34.319 --> 01:34:36.840 The guys. They're going, after they weren't you know it 1893 01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:39.600 wasn't Like it WAS down to utah and byu on the. 1894 01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:42.479 Young man that COMMITTED today he Was. Looking I think 1895 01:34:42.520 --> 01:34:45.359 at oregon so i think it's a little bit more 1896 01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:48.359 personal when it's a head to head battle, and you 1897 01:34:48.520 --> 01:34:49.920 lose That battle. 1898 01:34:49.840 --> 01:34:52.039 Whether you're in provo or. Up HERE on the hill 1899 01:34:52.439 --> 01:34:54.640 but i don't get a sense that an announcement like 1900 01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:58.760 today's is really, a shot across, The bow because you 1901 01:34:58.760 --> 01:35:01.479 know utah was looking at for. Guys, that, in that, 1902 01:35:01.560 --> 01:35:02.840 space okay. 1903 01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:05.720 Yeah fair enough fair enough it's just always interesting. TO 1904 01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:10.960 juxtapose the two scenarios i guess we can move over 1905 01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:13.479 to the space because. YOU can't Talk about recruits i 1906 01:35:13.520 --> 01:35:17.359 have utah's, twenty twenty six recruits up so you kind 1907 01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:20.560 of elaborated on what you perceived to be some. Positive 1908 01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:23.319 momentum for this class but we can put twenty twenty 1909 01:35:23.319 --> 01:35:25.840 six aside and just kind of hone in on, where 1910 01:35:25.840 --> 01:35:27.479 we're at right now. In the here, and now and 1911 01:35:27.560 --> 01:35:29.560 you know we visited with. You not too long Ago 1912 01:35:30.119 --> 01:35:32.760 but here's here's, how I'LL ask a, question because i you, 1913 01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:35.600 know whether it's text Messages obviously a lot of, UTAH 1914 01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:38.239 fans in my ecosystem yu fans. In the family as 1915 01:35:38.279 --> 01:35:41.640 well what would you say as the voice of the 1916 01:35:41.760 --> 01:35:44.199 utes as somebody who now works full time up there 1917 01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:47.279 two ute fans that do feel like, there is a 1918 01:35:47.399 --> 01:35:51.000 genuine concern this undercurrent of genuine concern that maybe the. Momentum, 1919 01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:52.159 is shifting. 1920 01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:55.640 Down south well let's see how it. Plays out, On 1921 01:35:55.680 --> 01:35:58.399 the Field you, Know utah got you know utah was 1922 01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:00.479 beaten a. Year ago BY b one you and i 1923 01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:03.520 know they've. Lost the last two matchups but last year 1924 01:36:03.560 --> 01:36:07.000 you were playing. A little shorthanded to quarterback let's see 1925 01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:09.680 how the next. Couple OF years play out if byu 1926 01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:11.720 starts in on a run where, they win, three to 1927 01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:13.880 four you, know seasons in a. 1928 01:36:13.960 --> 01:36:16.640 Row then MAYBE that swung but. 1929 01:36:16.920 --> 01:36:19.399 But i haven't seen that last, year was a close 1930 01:36:19.479 --> 01:36:22.800 game a, controversial game in some ways but it was 1931 01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:26.640 a one Possession game late and again utah was, was 1932 01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:30.000 pretty deficient on offense, AND still in, that game, i, 1933 01:36:30.039 --> 01:36:32.920 would say you know again people that weren't, a here 1934 01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:35.520 and now society and everybody. Wants IT here And now 1935 01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:38.159 BUT i don't. HERE'S what i Will say i. DON'T 1936 01:36:38.159 --> 01:36:40.880 think utah has, Fallen i think you know utah had 1937 01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:42.960 a run of bad injuries and. BAD luck A year 1938 01:36:43.000 --> 01:36:46.159 ago i think utah's program. Still IN a good PLACE 1939 01:36:46.199 --> 01:36:48.800 what i think is byus ascended a little bit up 1940 01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:52.000 From where. They WERE pre big twelve so i think 1941 01:36:52.079 --> 01:36:54.439 what you're seeing is a little bit OF an. Ascension 1942 01:36:54.479 --> 01:36:56.800 OF the byu program But i don't feel. LIKE utah's 1943 01:36:56.800 --> 01:36:59.560 program has dipped i feel like they had a bad 1944 01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:02.720 run of injuries at, quarterback the last two seasons but 1945 01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:06.720 even a Season two Seasons ago with bryce and barnes, 1946 01:37:06.720 --> 01:37:11.000 at quarterback who, was okay he wasn't great but they still. 1947 01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:12.960 MANAGED to win eight games i think that was a, 1948 01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:15.560 testament to coaching the defense. A lot of Other things 1949 01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:18.479 so for the utah. Fans it, MIGHT be concerned oh 1950 01:37:18.520 --> 01:37:21.159 man I don't feel like the utah program, has dipped in. 1951 01:37:21.199 --> 01:37:23.239 ANY way shape or form i do feel like the 1952 01:37:23.359 --> 01:37:26.680 rival has made some improvements and built upon being in, 1953 01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:28.079 A Powerful conference though. 1954 01:37:28.039 --> 01:37:30.319 Well and i'm also one bill that, believes that's a 1955 01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:32.800 good thing and that's not just a self serving media 1956 01:37:32.960 --> 01:37:35.119 thing to Use the term that doctor hill dropped on 1957 01:37:35.159 --> 01:37:37.399 all of. This once UPON a time that's where i, 1958 01:37:37.439 --> 01:37:41.159 believe THAT iron sharpens iron and i believe a little 1959 01:37:41.159 --> 01:37:44.000 bit of pressure from the school, that whether, you like 1960 01:37:44.039 --> 01:37:47.199 it or. NOT everybody measures you against i actually perceive 1961 01:37:47.239 --> 01:37:49.479 it to BE a good thing because i believe. Healthy 1962 01:37:49.479 --> 01:37:52.840 competition Can breed results that's. Where, I'M at with it, No. 1963 01:37:53.359 --> 01:37:55.640 I think, YOU'RE right spence i mean i think when your, 1964 01:37:56.319 --> 01:38:00.560 chief rival is getting better it makes you puts you a. 1965 01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:03.159 Little bit more on alert and, they were always a 1966 01:38:03.279 --> 01:38:05.239 rival but now they're a, rival in the conference again 1967 01:38:05.319 --> 01:38:06.960 so that puts you on a little bit more heightened 1968 01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:09.560 alert because they're not just a. Rival who's forty miles 1969 01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:13.000 away they're now a, rival who's forty miles away who's 1970 01:38:13.039 --> 01:38:15.279 in the same league and competing for a lot of the. 1971 01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:16.680 Same guys on recruiting. 1972 01:38:16.319 --> 01:38:21.039 Trail so when you know when you've had the opportunity 1973 01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:23.159 at this point to continue to prepare and we're all 1974 01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:24.800 going to be a big twelve media day here and 1975 01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:27.399 coming up a little, bit and, at some point you 1976 01:38:27.399 --> 01:38:29.920 Know we're sitting here in june trying to pontificate on 1977 01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:32.600 what the Conference will Look, like in august and september 1978 01:38:32.640 --> 01:38:36.079 which oftentimes. Is an exercise and futility do you feel 1979 01:38:36.119 --> 01:38:38.720 like you have a, good handle as of Now Whether 1980 01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:42.159 it's reading the phil steele stuff or reading the preseason 1981 01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:45.000 expectations or conversations you have with your peers around the, 1982 01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:48.159 conference about just generally speaking how this, is going to 1983 01:38:48.199 --> 01:38:50.600 play out whether or not it will be a little 1984 01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:53.439 bit of a cannibalistic conference, where a bunch, of good 1985 01:38:53.479 --> 01:38:55.520 maybe no great teams. Beat up on each other do 1986 01:38:55.560 --> 01:38:57.560 you feel like you have A good handle on what 1987 01:38:57.600 --> 01:38:59.720 big twelve football is going. TO look like next year. 1988 01:39:01.159 --> 01:39:01.640 I don't have. 1989 01:39:01.720 --> 01:39:05.720 A great handle on it i don't see anybody on 1990 01:39:05.880 --> 01:39:10.119 paper that jumps out at Me as great as say. 1991 01:39:10.279 --> 01:39:14.319 National CHAMPIONSHIP can tender great but i think this league 1992 01:39:14.319 --> 01:39:17.960 could have, multiple PLAYOFF teams this year and i, DO 1993 01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:19.840 think to your point i think there could BE some 1994 01:39:19.880 --> 01:39:24.800 cannibalization because because i think that there's a lot of teams. 1995 01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:26.439 THAT are on that side i don't know that there's 1996 01:39:26.600 --> 01:39:29.600 one elite team or two. ELITE teams in This League, 1997 01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:32.920 I think the Arizona, STATES i think The, utah's I Think, 1998 01:39:32.960 --> 01:39:37.199 the Byus, The Iowa states the baylors texas tech may 1999 01:39:37.239 --> 01:39:40.680 be the, Most interesting team for me spence because they. 2000 01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:43.760 SPENT a lot of money i heard that they spent 2001 01:39:43.840 --> 01:39:47.520 in the neighborhood of twenty. Five million dollars on football 2002 01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:51.079 they've got crazy Boosters With, oil money in west texas 2003 01:39:51.720 --> 01:39:54.039 and this was a team that was six. And three 2004 01:39:54.119 --> 01:39:57.399 a year, ago they return a quarterback they spent a lot. 2005 01:39:57.439 --> 01:40:00.159 Of Money in the portal so i'm going to be 2006 01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:04.000 really Interested To see. HOW good Texas Tech is i 2007 01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:07.199 think kansas. STATE'S going To be good i think kansas 2008 01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:10.079 could be A Wild card because the jalen daniels kid 2009 01:40:10.159 --> 01:40:12.640 has been in, and out of the lineup, but if he. 2010 01:40:12.640 --> 01:40:14.039 Stays HEALTHY he's pretty. 2011 01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:17.159 Dynamic so i want to. Get a little bit closer 2012 01:40:17.279 --> 01:40:19.640 i'm KIND of like you when i get down get 2013 01:40:19.680 --> 01:40:21.920 a better feel of it when you're kind of boots on, 2014 01:40:21.960 --> 01:40:25.600 the ground talking to people and, have a sense you 2015 01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:28.640 know right before camp begins. What THESE teams look like 2016 01:40:28.800 --> 01:40:32.239 but i don't have a great feel for who the 2017 01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:34.880 definitive best. TEAM in the league is i think there's 2018 01:40:35.079 --> 01:40:37.600 a pot of about four or five or six teams. 2019 01:40:37.920 --> 01:40:39.880 That all might get there so. 2020 01:40:39.920 --> 01:40:44.520 You taught football thirty nine additions during the, siding period 2021 01:40:44.520 --> 01:40:48.000 in transfer window. And we Talked about, this that ranks 2022 01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:51.000 UTAH football according to what i Read as far, as 2023 01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:53.359 a big twelve preview is among. The lowest in returning 2024 01:40:53.399 --> 01:40:55.560 production some. YEARS that would be bad i don't know 2025 01:40:55.600 --> 01:40:59.199 if it's bad this year when it comes to the 2026 01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:02.960 downs and. They suffered a year ago coach with himself 2027 01:41:03.039 --> 01:41:05.640 during the springball talking about kind of the renewed positive. 2028 01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:08.600 Energy in the locker room but, here's my question for 2029 01:41:08.640 --> 01:41:11.039 you as you're. Making your way around town when you throw, 2030 01:41:11.079 --> 01:41:13.319 the card the cardboard down, you do, your head spin 2031 01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:15.479 your breakdance and you're doing the bill thing. Whatever it 2032 01:41:15.520 --> 01:41:18.319 is you do what's what are some of the main 2033 01:41:18.479 --> 01:41:22.199 questions you get from the community. About curiosity concerning the 2034 01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:24.800 team what are some of the topics and feedback You 2035 01:41:24.840 --> 01:41:27.399 Get from people around salt lake and the Surrounding area. That, 2036 01:41:27.439 --> 01:41:28.279 care about utah. 2037 01:41:28.119 --> 01:41:33.439 Football well Everybody asks about devin. Damp here and the 2038 01:41:33.520 --> 01:41:35.680 quarterback they. Want to know about him they want to, 2039 01:41:35.720 --> 01:41:36.279 know how good? 2040 01:41:36.319 --> 01:41:37.199 He is what's. 2041 01:41:37.239 --> 01:41:41.000 HIS potential stuff like that i Spoke To A Group 2042 01:41:41.079 --> 01:41:43.439 last friday old dominion trucking and they were having A 2043 01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:45.199 big lunch in and i spoke to, them about the 2044 01:41:45.199 --> 01:41:48.680 football program and everybody Wants to know about, damp here 2045 01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:51.039 and you? Know what does he do? How dynamic is 2046 01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:53.199 he and they want to know who the backup quarterback, 2047 01:41:53.279 --> 01:41:55.520 is going to be because as we've, seen the last 2048 01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:57.960 two years the backup quarterback has Played a Lot, at 2049 01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:00.239 THE university of utah and i think that's to be 2050 01:42:00.279 --> 01:42:03.560 an Interesting Battle this Fall Between. Isaac wilson, And bird 2051 01:42:03.600 --> 01:42:07.840 fickland you know. Isaac's Got experience in games bird fickland's 2052 01:42:07.880 --> 01:42:13.479 probably a body type prototype of what you know fits. 2053 01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:16.640 The offense very very well but he's. An eighteen year 2054 01:42:16.680 --> 01:42:19.319 old freshman he's never played a. Down OF real. 2055 01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:21.600 College football and I think the other question i get 2056 01:42:21.600 --> 01:42:23.560 a ton of spence is who are? Going to be 2057 01:42:23.600 --> 01:42:26.760 the playmakers who's. GOING to catch the football. 2058 01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:28.680 I Was just talking to jason Beck The other day 2059 01:42:28.840 --> 01:42:31.159 and mike simon the other day, who's the wide receivers 2060 01:42:31.159 --> 01:42:33.319 coach and they both said that's going to be decided 2061 01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:35.520 in the first. Two weeks of fall camp they've got 2062 01:42:35.560 --> 01:42:37.319 an idea of some of who those, some of those 2063 01:42:37.359 --> 01:42:39.439 guys are but two of the guys that might be 2064 01:42:39.600 --> 01:42:42.920 those guys got. Here In the Spring portal larry Simmons 2065 01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:46.920 from southern Miss. And merriweather from from california those are 2066 01:42:46.960 --> 01:42:48.840 two guys that. They think could be it but they 2067 01:42:48.840 --> 01:42:52.239 didn't mean, Practice WITH the team yet so i think. 2068 01:42:52.079 --> 01:42:52.560 That's probably the. 2069 01:42:52.600 --> 01:42:54.840 Biggest question people ask THEM probably the, biggest question, i 2070 01:42:54.920 --> 01:42:57.560 have is you know the running game. Is going to 2071 01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:00.319 be fine, Their offensive line is. Stella the quarterbacks really 2072 01:43:00.319 --> 01:43:03.000 good they've got a good kind of stable of Running Backs, 2073 01:43:03.039 --> 01:43:05.279 led by way shawn parker so they're going to be. 2074 01:43:05.279 --> 01:43:07.359 Able to run the football but when, they have to 2075 01:43:07.439 --> 01:43:09.359 throw it who are? Going to be those guys and 2076 01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:11.680 that question, just HASN'T been answered yet and i don't 2077 01:43:11.680 --> 01:43:12.920 think it's going to be answered for a. Couple of 2078 01:43:12.920 --> 01:43:16.159 weeks of camp on the, defensive side of the football everybody, 2079 01:43:16.199 --> 01:43:17.439 wants to know about upfront who's. 2080 01:43:17.439 --> 01:43:19.600 Going To rush the passer logan fano. Is one of 2081 01:43:19.600 --> 01:43:20.439 those guys but then. 2082 01:43:20.319 --> 01:43:23.600 They've got a bunch of red shirt freshmen and sophomores who. 2083 01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:26.560 They're COUNTING pretty heavily on so i don't worry about 2084 01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:29.159 that part so much Because, it always feels like utah 2085 01:43:29.239 --> 01:43:32.319 even in their worst years defensively. 2086 01:43:31.960 --> 01:43:35.319 Are good and in their. Best. YEARS they're really good 2087 01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:38.000 upfront i, think they like the talent it just doesn't, 2088 01:43:38.039 --> 01:43:40.960 have a ton, of experience but they're deep so it'll 2089 01:43:40.960 --> 01:43:43.560 be interesting to me Who, kind of plays opposite afano 2090 01:43:43.640 --> 01:43:44.880 who's back from the knee injury. 2091 01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:46.640 At one hundred percent now he was kind of playing his. 2092 01:43:46.680 --> 01:43:50.600 Way through it, last year linebackers, are good secondary is 2093 01:43:50.640 --> 01:43:55.479 good but upfront probably so it's probably playmakers and defensive 2094 01:43:55.560 --> 01:43:59.239 line are. My two kind of questions but that's what 2095 01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:01.399 the same thing. People are asking me about, Who's going 2096 01:44:01.439 --> 01:44:02.920 to catch passes we're going to? 2097 01:44:02.960 --> 01:44:04.319 Throw to the tight end? What's going? 2098 01:44:04.399 --> 01:44:07.920 To go on all right the schedule was released For 2099 01:44:08.039 --> 01:44:11.039 Men's basketball and the big twelve is elected to trim 2100 01:44:11.079 --> 01:44:14.720 the schedule in order to make for. More non conference 2101 01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:17.479 scheduling options do you like that or would you just 2102 01:44:17.520 --> 01:44:20.159 prefer to see the same Conference schedule that we've seen. 2103 01:44:22.720 --> 01:44:24.960 For me if you. CAN get some good games i 2104 01:44:25.119 --> 01:44:28.079 liked it last year having those twenty games Because It was, 2105 01:44:28.119 --> 01:44:31.039 two more Big Twelve games and the big twelve is 2106 01:44:31.039 --> 01:44:33.439 one of the. Best conferences, in the country you. 2107 01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:37.000 KNOW it's hard to schedule i, think some coaches like it. 2108 01:44:37.079 --> 01:44:39.760 Some coaches, don't like it for me if you're going 2109 01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:42.399 to give, Me two extra conference games. 2110 01:44:42.359 --> 01:44:44.960 I'm good with it because A lot of programs And 2111 01:44:44.960 --> 01:44:47.920 i'm saying not saying utah is because they're finishing up their. 2112 01:44:47.960 --> 01:44:50.840 Non conference schedule right now but when you play At A, 2113 01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:53.119 conference like the big twelve you know you're going to 2114 01:44:53.159 --> 01:44:56.039 have a team that's probably at minimum a top, one 2115 01:44:56.119 --> 01:44:59.680 Hundred net, ranked team sometimes top. Fifty Sometimes top twenty 2116 01:44:59.720 --> 01:45:01.880 five so i've always been in. 2117 01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:05.520 Favor of more conference games so the fact that, Going 2118 01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:07.560 to eighteen is fine i'm. Going to be real curious 2119 01:45:07.600 --> 01:45:09.279 it'll probably be to be done in the next couple 2120 01:45:09.319 --> 01:45:11.439 of weeks what the non. Conference schedule will look like 2121 01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:14.600 but if you gave me, The choice between the two 2122 01:45:14.680 --> 01:45:17.079 i'd say give. Me two more, Conference games what, About you. 2123 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:21.479 I'm with YOU and ultimately it's Because i don't believe 2124 01:45:21.560 --> 01:45:24.720 and I'm not, saying this about utah, specifically more often 2125 01:45:24.760 --> 01:45:28.640 than not non conference schedules in college basketball don't tell 2126 01:45:28.680 --> 01:45:31.039 you anything about the team because most coaches want to 2127 01:45:31.039 --> 01:45:33.319 play cakewalks to. Get THEM ready for conference so i say. 2128 01:45:33.359 --> 01:45:36.359 More conference, games, the better that's me yeah because. 2129 01:45:36.399 --> 01:45:39.680 You're then playing for something you're. Playing for Your Conference 2130 01:45:39.720 --> 01:45:42.600 standings but the big twelves elected, to go back to 2131 01:45:42.680 --> 01:45:46.039 eighteen so that's. WHAT we'll see this year i am 2132 01:45:46.119 --> 01:45:48.560 excited about Getting to go to fog allen to, call 2133 01:45:48.640 --> 01:45:50.640 a game this Year To give you to kansas state to. 2134 01:45:50.680 --> 01:45:53.479 Call a game this Year I've never Been, to Texas 2135 01:45:53.479 --> 01:45:56.479 tech at lubbock but i've heard they, get great crowds 2136 01:45:56.479 --> 01:45:58.520 in there and they spend a ton of money on 2137 01:45:58.720 --> 01:46:01.760 nil and they've they've had good teams. The last couple 2138 01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:03.000 of years so that'll be fun. 2139 01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:04.279 To go to those places. 2140 01:46:04.079 --> 01:46:07.319 Wondering, since you brought, that up, YOU know Initially and yes. 2141 01:46:07.399 --> 01:46:10.000 I know i'm a, snob i. Will own IT you 2142 01:46:10.039 --> 01:46:13.439 know you and i discussed the different dynamic, of Travel 2143 01:46:13.760 --> 01:46:17.399 for youth fans Juxtaposing pac twelve. Markets to big twelve 2144 01:46:17.439 --> 01:46:19.199 markets now that you've had, a little bit and, look 2145 01:46:19.239 --> 01:46:22.119 you're from that area it's like you're familiar with it 2146 01:46:22.159 --> 01:46:23.520 in the way that most of us. Just are not 2147 01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:26.199 at all but how do you think that transition has? 2148 01:46:26.199 --> 01:46:29.159 Been for, the fan base you KNOW we were talking 2149 01:46:29.239 --> 01:46:31.600 to I, can't remember who were oh WE. Were, discussing 2150 01:46:31.600 --> 01:46:35.199 this with jb long who's, still doing some college football 2151 01:46:35.199 --> 01:46:37.079 Our buddy from the old PAC twelve. Network who calls 2152 01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:39.399 rams games there's always, this THING that people say, and 2153 01:46:39.439 --> 01:46:43.960 i say it, TOO where regardless, of house, ncaa. Nil 2154 01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:48.279 transfer portal lawsuits appeals saturday's in The fall still feel, 2155 01:46:48.279 --> 01:46:50.319 like saturday's in the fall But They. Probably don't to 2156 01:46:50.319 --> 01:46:53.560 oregon State They, probably don't to washington state and they 2157 01:46:53.560 --> 01:46:55.760 feel a little. Bit different for youth fans if for 2158 01:46:55.840 --> 01:46:58.640 a decade PLUS we're used to the pac Twelve Brands the, 2159 01:46:58.680 --> 01:47:01.359 HOME of west, coast football i mean here and the 2160 01:47:01.399 --> 01:47:04.560 ability to Take A week trip to los angeles or 2161 01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:07.760 wherever to enjoy some Of these markets that the Pac 2162 01:47:07.800 --> 01:47:09.640 twelve had that. The big twelve just doesn't but Now 2163 01:47:09.640 --> 01:47:11.920 That we, have some big twelve experience how do you 2164 01:47:11.960 --> 01:47:15.039 think things like travel and experience in different markets have 2165 01:47:15.159 --> 01:47:17.359 landed with a community that simply was used to something. 2166 01:47:17.399 --> 01:47:18.720 DIFFERENT for over a decade. 2167 01:47:19.479 --> 01:47:22.640 I think it's still adjusting I think a lot of 2168 01:47:22.760 --> 01:47:26.159 utah fans last year Made that trip to still water 2169 01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:29.079 because it was one of the few kind of name 2170 01:47:29.600 --> 01:47:33.199 Trips On the schedule and oklahoma state's got a Good 2171 01:47:33.199 --> 01:47:36.000 Pedigree in history and. Boone pick and stadiums good, But 2172 01:47:36.760 --> 01:47:39.359 and to be fair utah was still playing good football at. 2173 01:47:39.359 --> 01:47:43.000 THAT point in time too i think there's going, to, 2174 01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:46.800 be an adjustment, period spence because you Know The stops 2175 01:47:46.800 --> 01:47:49.640 in the pac, twelve were in big cities and they. 2176 01:47:49.640 --> 01:47:52.039 Were Easy To Get. To from salt lake city they 2177 01:47:52.079 --> 01:47:55.640 Were A, single flight To, los angeles or To Seattle 2178 01:47:56.159 --> 01:47:59.119 or to The. Bay area or to. Phoenix, you could 2179 01:47:59.119 --> 01:48:02.720 get There really some of these big twelve trips. Are 2180 01:48:02.760 --> 01:48:04.840 a little bit harder it's a it's a flight and then. 2181 01:48:04.880 --> 01:48:09.479 A RENTAL car hop Someplace but i think once utah 2182 01:48:09.640 --> 01:48:12.560 kind of goes through, it a couple of times a 2183 01:48:12.600 --> 01:48:15.960 couple of kind, of rounds around the block and fans 2184 01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:19.960 begin to make, some trips like this year Maybe, some people, 2185 01:48:20.079 --> 01:48:21.960 DECIDE to hey You know i want To, I've Never, 2186 01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:24.479 been to morgantown west virginia. And that's a great say 2187 01:48:24.840 --> 01:48:28.319 it's not a place, that's easy to Get to but. 2188 01:48:28.920 --> 01:48:32.479 It's a rabbit fan base that would. Be a Pretty, 2189 01:48:32.479 --> 01:48:36.399 interesting trip by, to pittsburgh you drive down or maybe 2190 01:48:36.399 --> 01:48:39.039 you decide you, want to, go to uh you know 2191 01:48:39.079 --> 01:48:41.479 you Want. To go down to kansas so even if 2192 01:48:41.520 --> 01:48:44.079 It is the day after thanksgiving and see the New 2193 01:48:44.119 --> 01:48:46.159 Stadium and fly into kansas city and. DO some of 2194 01:48:46.159 --> 01:48:47.800 that stuff i just think it's going to take A 2195 01:48:47.840 --> 01:48:52.199 couple of years for utah fans to kind of recalibrate 2196 01:48:52.279 --> 01:48:56.319 where they were because they got spoiled with, easy trips 2197 01:48:56.640 --> 01:49:00.319 to name places, and to be very Fair, we're west 2198 01:49:00.319 --> 01:49:05.880 to THE rockies AND places Like ucla And usc and 2199 01:49:06.119 --> 01:49:10.319 washington And oregon were places where utah would venture every couple, 2200 01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:13.520 of years or every decade. BUT they were familiar places 2201 01:49:13.960 --> 01:49:16.680 i don't Get a sense that the midwest schools Are 2202 01:49:16.720 --> 01:49:20.560 nearly as familiar to utah fans because it's just kind 2203 01:49:20.600 --> 01:49:23.920 of a different. Geographic PART of the country so i 2204 01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:25.560 get the same thing from a lot, of, people, THAT 2205 01:49:25.600 --> 01:49:27.720 are like ah, MAN i miss going, Here I miss 2206 01:49:27.760 --> 01:49:30.319 going there and i get it because there's also Good 2207 01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:34.039 Memories associated with The rose bowl and the. COLISEUM and 2208 01:49:34.079 --> 01:49:37.079 some fun games i think it's just kind of recalibrating 2209 01:49:37.079 --> 01:49:38.880 and learning. Some OF these new opponents but i think 2210 01:49:38.880 --> 01:49:40.800 it'll take a couple of, Years TO get there probably, 2211 01:49:40.920 --> 01:49:41.439 and i. 2212 01:49:41.439 --> 01:49:44.760 Said, THIS earlier like no matter i don't know how 2213 01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:46.960 long it will take for me to be able to. 2214 01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:49.640 Say you to A Microphone the home of west coast, 2215 01:49:49.680 --> 01:49:52.399 football crumbled right, before eyes brick by, brick and not 2216 01:49:52.520 --> 01:49:54.520 so like how? The Hell did that happen and i'm 2217 01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:57.800 not one to sit here and place blame and believe that's. 2218 01:49:57.840 --> 01:50:01.319 The way to do it we've all got to move. 2219 01:50:01.319 --> 01:50:03.840 On and accept the reality but have you moved on 2220 01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:05.479 from all of that or is there still part of 2221 01:50:05.520 --> 01:50:07.159 you that, looks, back and you're like well how the? Hell, 2222 01:50:07.199 --> 01:50:07.640 did that go. 2223 01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:12.199 Down well that's part of me that's disappointed at. THE way, 2224 01:50:12.239 --> 01:50:16.680 it went down i Mean it just is because utah 2225 01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:19.600 was a very small part Of the, HISTORY of, The 2226 01:50:19.680 --> 01:50:22.479 pac ten, pac eight pac twelve conference but it was 2227 01:50:22.479 --> 01:50:24.720 a part of it and we got to. Experience it 2228 01:50:24.760 --> 01:50:28.840 for thirteen years but it. Was such a Great Conference It. 2229 01:50:28.960 --> 01:50:32.079 Represented THE western united states when i Was, growing up 2230 01:50:32.119 --> 01:50:36.399 in the midwest You'd, look, west On a november Cold 2231 01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:39.960 windy November day in kansas or nebraska and you'd see 2232 01:50:39.960 --> 01:50:44.199 The sun shining in southern, california glistening off the helmets. 2233 01:50:44.199 --> 01:50:46.960 And it was just cool but the history of that 2234 01:50:47.039 --> 01:50:51.479 league just went poof into, the ether Because, of television 2235 01:50:51.600 --> 01:50:55.600 because Of Fox because of the big ten basically coming in. 2236 01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:58.560 And poaching it was money and at, the end, of the, 2237 01:50:58.600 --> 01:51:01.880 Day it's sad and yeah, i've, moved on from it 2238 01:51:01.920 --> 01:51:05.079 certainly but it was it was just such a cool 2239 01:51:05.239 --> 01:51:09.760 Chapter of my, career and utah's you know football. And 2240 01:51:09.840 --> 01:51:10.600 basketball and. 2241 01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:14.199 Sports history it's a shame But Imagine that you're an 2242 01:51:14.199 --> 01:51:17.039 Oregon State fan. Or A washington state fan but i 2243 01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:20.239 won't even say That's it's imagine YOU'RE a. WASHINGTON or 2244 01:51:20.279 --> 01:51:23.760 a usc fan i know plenty. Of friends that are 2245 01:51:23.880 --> 01:51:27.319 fanan they're they're glad that they're schools, are in a 2246 01:51:27.319 --> 01:51:30.680 good conference but they're not. TRAVELING the, games very much 2247 01:51:30.920 --> 01:51:33.159 I mean imagine you're a usc fan and you've Got 2248 01:51:33.159 --> 01:51:36.880 to go Play. In minneapolis in late october there's. No 2249 01:51:37.079 --> 01:51:40.039 real grab to that but When, you went to play 2250 01:51:40.079 --> 01:51:42.159 stanford Or, you went to play Washington Or You, came 2251 01:51:42.199 --> 01:51:43.840 to salt lake city there was a. Little BIT more 2252 01:51:43.840 --> 01:51:47.319 to it so, i think everybody feels it but even 2253 01:51:47.359 --> 01:51:48.960 the schools that landed in good places. 2254 01:51:49.039 --> 01:51:51.800 Kind of, Feel it too All right rob's last. Thing 2255 01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:54.359 i'll set you loose we will not go game by 2256 01:51:54.479 --> 01:51:57.600 game at home to get your. Take on the game promotions, 2257 01:51:57.680 --> 01:52:00.199 we will not Do. That EVEN though it's june but 2258 01:52:00.239 --> 01:52:04.000 i Will ask You cal poly ring of honor. NIGHT 2259 01:52:04.720 --> 01:52:06.720 if it's. Been announced i haven't heard do you have 2260 01:52:06.720 --> 01:52:09.640 any do you have any information on who Will be 2261 01:52:10.159 --> 01:52:12.920 Inducted in the. RING of honor, this year i. 2262 01:52:12.840 --> 01:52:16.199 Am waiting as you are spence to hear who Will 2263 01:52:16.199 --> 01:52:18.159 be Going into that. RING of honor as well i, 2264 01:52:18.199 --> 01:52:21.560 Think that announcement should probably i'm. Guessing probably, Coming. 2265 01:52:21.359 --> 01:52:26.000 Pretty soon but yeah. I'm also waiting on it who, 2266 01:52:26.239 --> 01:52:29.319 if you had your choice who Would you Put in that. 2267 01:52:29.439 --> 01:52:30.319 Ring of honor This. 2268 01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:33.680 Year it's tough because ronnie. Mack's got to go in. 2269 01:52:35.520 --> 01:52:38.359 He, would be my First Again. THIS is just bill 2270 01:52:38.439 --> 01:52:40.600 riley i, HAVE not on a, committee I have no 2271 01:52:40.720 --> 01:52:44.560 Say but i think coach mack is so important to 2272 01:52:45.319 --> 01:52:48.199 the history of this program as not just an assistant, 2273 01:52:48.239 --> 01:52:51.399 coach but a head coach but also setting the culture 2274 01:52:51.920 --> 01:52:55.039 and making. THE rivalry A rivalry again i would I 2275 01:52:55.039 --> 01:52:57.119 would love, to SEE mac go in and i. 2276 01:52:57.119 --> 01:52:58.039 THINK that would be great. 2277 01:52:58.119 --> 01:53:00.359 I think that's The answer do you. Think urban have gets. 2278 01:53:00.399 --> 01:53:06.399 IN that's, an interesting question i, mean obviously two unbelievable 2279 01:53:06.479 --> 01:53:09.880 years but. IT was just two years, i think if 2280 01:53:09.920 --> 01:53:12.039 he does. IT'S a, while from, now i think you 2281 01:53:12.079 --> 01:53:14.840 know you've got, to put, In the McBride's You know 2282 01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:18.840 whittingham when whenever kyle decides. To retire, something like that 2283 01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:23.479 but yeah that's that's the interesting Question Because He dominated 2284 01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:26.479 the mountain. West conference for two years but, it was 2285 01:53:26.560 --> 01:53:29.000 just two years but he also played an. Important role 2286 01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:31.880 In program, HISTORY and if i'm guessing i would say 2287 01:53:32.079 --> 01:53:35.840 probably not just because, it was. JUST two years but 2288 01:53:37.039 --> 01:53:37.880 interesting i. 2289 01:53:37.800 --> 01:53:40.479 Would push for it only because those two. Years changed, 2290 01:53:40.520 --> 01:53:44.479 everything they did you know did it set the course. 2291 01:53:44.520 --> 01:53:46.439 For where we're at now say, what you want about 2292 01:53:46.479 --> 01:53:48.279 him and there's certain things that are fair to, Say 2293 01:53:49.079 --> 01:53:50.760 that you know what i'm gonna have to table, that 2294 01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:53.760 because to your. Point that's a short window but really 2295 01:53:53.760 --> 01:53:57.000 the broader point is. Those two years changed, everything he changed, 2296 01:53:57.000 --> 01:54:01.760 the culture the muss uh the over your. Rival AND 2297 01:54:02.279 --> 01:54:04.960 awesome Football teams but I Think. I'LL land on ronnie 2298 01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:06.439 mack i think. THAT'S the answer for Me. 2299 01:54:07.279 --> 01:54:08.159 I always say that. 2300 01:54:08.359 --> 01:54:13.079 Ronnie Mack laid The foundation urban, meyer made Utah Football 2301 01:54:13.199 --> 01:54:18.399 cool and then kyle whittingham just established the program as 2302 01:54:18.920 --> 01:54:22.000 a team that could compete. Nationally And win Conference championships 2303 01:54:22.239 --> 01:54:25.119 but urban made utah football, cool for Those Two years 2304 01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:25.399 and then. 2305 01:54:25.439 --> 01:54:27.600 Bill riley MADE it sexy. That's what, I, always say 2306 01:54:27.800 --> 01:54:30.800 all right ryle we'll Set you. Loose for the tuesday hit, 2307 01:54:30.840 --> 01:54:32.600 thanks for the inside man, be good. To chat. 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Than you, know FROM maxwell come. 2339 01:55:51.920 --> 01:55:52.760 On but i. 2340 01:55:52.800 --> 01:55:56.439 Mean just something More stuff pick. Some, Led zeppelin or 2341 01:55:56.479 --> 01:55:58.720 something okay, I'll. TRY that next time Dave. I Do 2342 01:55:58.880 --> 01:56:01.720 like led zeppelin dave, Fox Is Live? In studio dave? 2343 01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:05.079 HAPPY tuesday were you sir i don't like the cave? 2344 01:56:05.119 --> 01:56:07.760 Look you've built in here? Does this camera even? Work 2345 01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:10.720 don't get sheets. Up don't, start, with me but okay okay. 2346 01:56:10.840 --> 01:56:14.439 This was not my, idea as you can See based 2347 01:56:14.439 --> 01:56:16.279 off of, what i've done BACK here this is how 2348 01:56:16.319 --> 01:56:18.520 i do to at least provide some sort of natural 2349 01:56:18.600 --> 01:56:22.119 light in the ko. Slash jail cave slash jail they 2350 01:56:22.119 --> 01:56:24.319 have put us in. For four hours every afternoon. 2351 01:56:23.920 --> 01:56:25.800 It makes you feel like you're, doing something wrong in 2352 01:56:25.840 --> 01:56:27.439 here and we all wanted to. 2353 01:56:27.439 --> 01:56:30.479 Be, we are let's, be clear but uh yeah. We 2354 01:56:30.479 --> 01:56:33.520 should probably move on this is a. TOPIC of consternation 2355 01:56:33.720 --> 01:56:35.600 around here i don't, know why we've done. It but 2356 01:56:35.680 --> 01:56:37.560 we've done it. It's good to see you how it's great. 2357 01:56:37.560 --> 01:56:39.000 TO be here as well i can't really see, you 2358 01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:40.560 because it's so dark but it's. Good to be, here 2359 01:56:42.279 --> 01:56:45.199 enough by the way he did not. 2360 01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:47.359 SEND me a reminder today i remembered all on my, 2361 01:56:47.439 --> 01:56:49.560 own after justly blew me after. 2362 01:56:49.680 --> 01:56:51.199 Bailing, on us last Week yeah. 2363 01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:55.760 And Then now i'm just like i've taken it upon myself. 2364 01:56:55.760 --> 01:56:57.159 To just remember all this just stop. 2365 01:56:57.199 --> 01:56:59.680 Throwing him under the bus what? Do your oft last 2366 01:56:59.760 --> 01:57:02.960 night why are you causing problems with your weekly HiT's. 2367 01:57:03.239 --> 01:57:06.760 A long days even started. LET'S let's talk. About it, a, 2368 01:57:06.760 --> 01:57:08.840 LONG day tell me actually i want to know what 2369 01:57:08.880 --> 01:57:11.560 you've like starting. FROM when you woke up i. Want 2370 01:57:11.560 --> 01:57:13.239 to know your day if you, SAY it's a long 2371 01:57:13.279 --> 01:57:14.640 day i want, to know what you've done got. 2372 01:57:14.720 --> 01:57:19.479 Up THAT'S that's the question although i. Did GO to 2373 01:57:19.520 --> 01:57:21.680 the boat, now i, want the, breakdown go ahead got up. 2374 01:57:22.079 --> 01:57:24.800 Did one of THE pelotons? WHICH one did. I do, 2375 01:57:24.960 --> 01:57:26.920 i don't know come on, Just, take a good bike? 2376 01:57:27.319 --> 01:57:31.079 Nope did the tread, well you have, two going took 2377 01:57:31.079 --> 01:57:33.800 a shower went and met a friend for lunch at 2378 01:57:34.319 --> 01:57:36.720 a LITTLE restaurant right near. The tv station at eleven 2379 01:57:37.159 --> 01:57:41.399 then started Two Hours. Of interviews With kent crawford shout. 2380 01:57:41.439 --> 01:57:45.199 Out kent for a position we, have got through all, 2381 01:57:45.279 --> 01:57:48.960 those took a quick break ran down, to pick, up some, 2382 01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:52.880 parts came back sat down and then REALIZED it's, four, O'clock. 2383 01:57:52.560 --> 01:57:53.920 And i thought oh I'm going to be. 2384 01:57:53.960 --> 01:57:55.960 On SPENCE some thirty minutes SO i got up and 2385 01:57:56.000 --> 01:57:57.800 i walked down the street because we're right, down the 2386 01:57:57.840 --> 01:58:01.119 STREET from. You and here i. Am, that's your long 2387 01:58:01.199 --> 01:58:05.439 day well that three hour, Interview. Process was pretty long 2388 01:58:05.560 --> 01:58:08.279 dave some people. Actually work for, a living, You got 2389 01:58:08.359 --> 01:58:08.560 up you. 2390 01:58:08.680 --> 01:58:10.560 Shower that's what, that is you got up, you got, 2391 01:58:10.600 --> 01:58:12.680 on the peloton you showered you, met a friend for, 2392 01:58:12.760 --> 01:58:14.880 lunch did a few. Interviews and walked over here. And, 2393 01:58:14.920 --> 01:58:15.239 that's your. 2394 01:58:15.279 --> 01:58:17.960 Long day YEAH that is and. NOW i was getting 2395 01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:21.640 started I got a Whole Evening. I gotta, DO talking jazz. 2396 01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:23.760 You know i always thought that you were. A man 2397 01:58:23.800 --> 01:58:25.840 of the people. IT'S just, not very relatable i mean 2398 01:58:25.880 --> 01:58:27.760 if you're going to, say that's your long day you're 2399 01:58:27.760 --> 01:58:30.720 insulting the. Hardworking, people, of our community well. 2400 01:58:30.600 --> 01:58:33.039 Anyway you're gonna make my evening Even Better because you'll 2401 01:58:33.079 --> 01:58:34.840 carry talking jazz ten thirty. 2402 01:58:34.840 --> 01:58:36.800 Five about you know. What let's get a tease? 2403 01:58:36.840 --> 01:58:38.319 What are we doing tonight it's going to be this 2404 01:58:38.359 --> 01:58:40.720 is a, well the, DRAFTS, coming UP. Of course nhl 2405 01:58:40.880 --> 01:58:44.119 n nba we have a Special Pre. Draft edition OF 2406 01:58:44.159 --> 01:58:46.479 talking jazz you. And i talked last night got a 2407 01:58:46.520 --> 01:58:48.600 lot of things, to Talk about in there and. I'm 2408 01:58:48.600 --> 01:58:50.720 excited to do that may have you touched A little, 2409 01:58:50.720 --> 01:58:52.680 bit on the nhl thing but we'll focus. 2410 01:58:52.720 --> 01:58:57.720 More, on the, jazz tonight okay fair enough unexpected busy 2411 01:58:57.840 --> 01:59:00.800 day on. A number. Of different level we've taught there 2412 01:59:00.840 --> 01:59:04.319 have BEEN three. Trades in the nba today we, have the, 2413 01:59:04.399 --> 01:59:07.640 draft coming up of course a lot of conversation about 2414 01:59:07.640 --> 01:59:10.039 what the jazz. May or may not do BUT news 2415 01:59:10.079 --> 01:59:12.199 broke today the byu has Signed one OF. The top 2416 01:59:12.279 --> 01:59:14.920 according to. Espn there are different rankings people. Get UP 2417 01:59:14.920 --> 01:59:16.720 in their, fields so i. LOOKED two, four, to seven 2418 01:59:16.800 --> 01:59:19.680 i like, okay whatever. Service you USE, that's Fine according 2419 01:59:19.720 --> 01:59:21.680 to espn rider lines is one of the top five 2420 01:59:21.760 --> 01:59:24.319 quarterbacks of. The twenty twenty six class he is the 2421 01:59:24.399 --> 01:59:28.039 highest RATED recruit at that position byu assigned. Since two 2422 01:59:28.039 --> 01:59:30.279 thousand and two and we're going, to, learn a lesson 2423 01:59:30.319 --> 01:59:33.840 here Kids Because that quarterback was ben. Olsen who didn't 2424 01:59:33.880 --> 01:59:36.079 pan out, he went on a MISSION, ended up transferring 2425 01:59:36.079 --> 01:59:38.000 to ucla but he was a five star. Kid back 2426 01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:40.079 in the day we were talking off, air and to 2427 01:59:40.119 --> 01:59:41.760 your point we are not going to see, him until 2428 01:59:41.800 --> 01:59:44.279 twenty twenty seven and in between now and then. He 2429 01:59:44.319 --> 01:59:47.720 will serve a mission the. Mission conversation, is, always interesting 2430 01:59:47.800 --> 01:59:49.640 people say oh well they come back Men, and they're 2431 01:59:49.640 --> 01:59:51.840 ready to well it's. Not really how it works but 2432 01:59:52.239 --> 01:59:54.560 he will come back as a more mature twenty twenty 2433 01:59:54.600 --> 01:59:56.720 one year old ready to play with four years. If 2434 01:59:56.760 --> 02:00:00.680 he plays four years so it it does feel like 2435 02:00:00.760 --> 02:00:04.039 this is the first football recruit that HAS been. Signed 2436 02:00:04.079 --> 02:00:06.520 in the nil era that feels a. Little aj de 2437 02:00:06.600 --> 02:00:09.960 bonsa ISH i've. Not seen an nil figure i'm sure 2438 02:00:09.960 --> 02:00:12.760 that will. Be Reported at some point Jeff goodman reported 2439 02:00:12.760 --> 02:00:15.520 the aj debonca figure of seven million dollars to play FIVE. 2440 02:00:15.600 --> 02:00:19.079 Months of basketball for byu When you look at the 2441 02:00:19.119 --> 02:00:22.159 baylor transfer and You Do the math with richie saunders 2442 02:00:22.159 --> 02:00:24.880 coming back and a bunch of OTHER high, level players 2443 02:00:24.880 --> 02:00:28.159 for byu basketball the reports are they're paying about thirteen 2444 02:00:28.199 --> 02:00:30.760 to fifteen million dollars. FOR this roster this year i 2445 02:00:30.760 --> 02:00:34.119 don't know. What the football number is, there's obviously far more, 2446 02:00:34.159 --> 02:00:38.479 players so in, a Vacuum, THIS is like oh wow 2447 02:00:38.560 --> 02:00:41.039 byu was able to lock in their, highest recruit THEY'VE. 2448 02:00:41.079 --> 02:00:45.479 Had forever according, to espn with this addition they're now. 2449 02:00:45.520 --> 02:00:48.520 About, a top thirty class yeah jumped up like fifteen 2450 02:00:48.560 --> 02:00:51.119 spots with. An opportunity to move up the highest rated 2451 02:00:51.159 --> 02:00:51.640 class they've. 2452 02:00:51.680 --> 02:00:53.600 Ever had was. Twenty ten that was thirty so this 2453 02:00:53.640 --> 02:00:55.800 is an opportunity for them to, have the highest rated 2454 02:00:55.840 --> 02:00:59.000 class the highest, rated class They've ever had not. Just 2455 02:00:59.079 --> 02:01:02.159 kialani by, football period and of story what do you 2456 02:01:02.159 --> 02:01:04.119 make of today's tame to? HAVE going down in. Provo 2457 02:01:04.159 --> 02:01:04.479 a couple, of. 2458 02:01:04.439 --> 02:01:06.399 Things first of all and now the report's COMING out 2459 02:01:06.399 --> 02:01:08.119 that the b yu did not offer Him as much 2460 02:01:08.159 --> 02:01:10.039 money as oregon. And they still got him which is 2461 02:01:10.039 --> 02:01:13.079 who reported THAT it's been on. A aa drew or 2462 02:01:13.119 --> 02:01:16.279 something sources say someone who's carrying. 2463 02:01:16.319 --> 02:01:19.840 The water forces say uh but then the second thing is. 2464 02:01:19.840 --> 02:01:22.720 You GOT to remember this and i THINK the debans 2465 02:01:22.760 --> 02:01:26.520 of the bonsa thing is, even wilder in my opinion 2466 02:01:26.640 --> 02:01:30.279 because THERE is A. Connection to byu with, lions his 2467 02:01:30.359 --> 02:01:32.720 father played. There his, sisters went there olds. Kid he's 2468 02:01:32.720 --> 02:01:34.279 an eldest kid he's going. To go on, A mission 2469 02:01:34.279 --> 02:01:37.760 by the way i have somewhere today i'd read something 2470 02:01:37.760 --> 02:01:38.479 about he may. 2471 02:01:38.359 --> 02:01:40.439 Not DO a full mission, like i saw that too 2472 02:01:40.560 --> 02:01:43.279 like a. One year mission or no thank, you for, 2473 02:01:43.319 --> 02:01:46.520 bringing that up because you as, a member of the community, 2474 02:01:46.560 --> 02:01:49.359 can maybe, help me understand because look if the fourteen, 2475 02:01:49.399 --> 02:01:51.520 MONTH thing was an option i. MIGHT have looked at 2476 02:01:51.520 --> 02:01:53.560 you i didn't know that. WAS the deal for me 2477 02:01:53.600 --> 02:01:56.039 i was like two years. At eight, NINETEEN years old 2478 02:01:56.119 --> 02:01:58.319 no thanks. I got stuff to do? Is THIS the 2479 02:01:58.359 --> 02:02:00.760 deal now like, i HAVE never heard this but. 2480 02:02:00.800 --> 02:02:02.880 I do know this much if YOU if, YOU serve 2481 02:02:03.359 --> 02:02:05.680 an lds mission i, mean you're not in. 2482 02:02:05.720 --> 02:02:09.359 Prison you can COME home, Did, YOU serve i didn't dave, 2483 02:02:10.319 --> 02:02:12.520 I was you know what i've changed. MY entire view 2484 02:02:12.520 --> 02:02:12.840 on you. 2485 02:02:12.840 --> 02:02:16.239 I walked into the front page disco, back in nineteen seventy. 2486 02:02:16.279 --> 02:02:19.359 Eight, and that was it okay. IT was over fair, 2487 02:02:19.439 --> 02:02:22.439 enough i saw the. Dance. The, LIT dance floor fairness 2488 02:02:22.600 --> 02:02:25.520 anyway i did not. Know that was a thing but. 2489 02:02:26.119 --> 02:02:29.439 YOU certainly have that prerogative i don't what do you mean. Just, 2490 02:02:29.479 --> 02:02:33.199 coming home and bouncing well sure they can't force. 2491 02:02:33.239 --> 02:02:35.680 You, to NOT come home sure but i just want 2492 02:02:35.720 --> 02:02:39.239 to know that conversation when you go in to meet with, your, ECCLESIASTICAL, 2493 02:02:39.319 --> 02:02:42.079 leader AND say oh fyi, As i put these in 2494 02:02:42.159 --> 02:02:44.600 i'm going to be popping, out at about fourteen. Twelve 2495 02:02:44.600 --> 02:02:48.119 Fourteen months or, something BUT i've heard this and i 2496 02:02:48.199 --> 02:02:49.800 don't know. Where THAT'S going to go but i. Found, 2497 02:02:49.800 --> 02:02:51.840 that very very interesting man what a can of? 2498 02:02:51.840 --> 02:02:52.119 Worms? 2499 02:02:52.159 --> 02:02:54.880 That, Would open up huh porter can you effort sources 2500 02:02:55.039 --> 02:02:57.600 at the church office building to help us understand why 2501 02:02:57.680 --> 02:02:59.479 some kids are Serving fourteen months and other. 2502 02:02:59.399 --> 02:03:01.640 I'm not, saying so the kids are But this kid's about, 2503 02:03:01.680 --> 02:03:03.520 TO it, sounds like MAYBE. 2504 02:03:03.199 --> 02:03:05.119 I, mean from what i understand, AND you, guys, know 2505 02:03:05.199 --> 02:03:07.239 this i mean technically technically. 2506 02:03:07.520 --> 02:03:10.159 This, Is, a voluntary mission. Well yeah that's my point 2507 02:03:10.239 --> 02:03:11.560 you you can. 2508 02:03:12.840 --> 02:03:13.119 Serve. 2509 02:03:13.199 --> 02:03:18.600 These based on certain, dates it's just you, know part 2510 02:03:18.600 --> 02:03:20.439 of the culture part of the norm to. Do, it 2511 02:03:20.800 --> 02:03:23.960 for two years yeah but there, are female eight months 2512 02:03:24.039 --> 02:03:28.399 apparently no rules to, shortening it for different circumstances even. 2513 02:03:28.399 --> 02:03:30.279 IF you're not an athlete i just don't. Know if 2514 02:03:30.279 --> 02:03:31.720 it gets. ONE that's a good point i. 2515 02:03:31.720 --> 02:03:34.960 Just don't, think anyone's thought of it because it's just 2516 02:03:35.239 --> 02:03:36.000 it's just been. 2517 02:03:36.079 --> 02:03:38.760 Two years for a century it might be kind of 2518 02:03:38.760 --> 02:03:41.159 brilliant if. His, kid's a, great Quarterback Hey you know 2519 02:03:41.359 --> 02:03:44.319 like steve young always talked about how when, he considered 2520 02:03:44.359 --> 02:03:49.039 serving a mission his ecclesiastical leaders encouraged him to pursue 2521 02:03:49.079 --> 02:03:51.600 football because he could make a, massive difference, for the 2522 02:03:51.680 --> 02:03:53.960 church YOU know. Being a great nfl. Player here's what 2523 02:03:54.000 --> 02:03:57.359 we'll do I'M sure we have several lds. Leaders listening 2524 02:03:57.439 --> 02:03:59.119 to the show you want to get one, of, Them, 2525 02:03:59.159 --> 02:04:00.720 TO call in right well i want them to call 2526 02:04:00.760 --> 02:04:02.439 in to tell porter we don't. Have callers on the 2527 02:04:02.439 --> 02:04:04.279 show we're. Not that kind of show you can call 2528 02:04:04.319 --> 02:04:06.640 in at eight seven seven three five three zero. Seven, 2529 02:04:06.760 --> 02:04:09.399 hundred or text us okay what's the deal with this 2530 02:04:09.439 --> 02:04:11.399 new dynamic where if, you can throw a. Football, You're 2531 02:04:11.439 --> 02:04:14.520 only fourteen months yeah and do you have to let 2532 02:04:14.600 --> 02:04:16.720 him know in advance or can you? Just when you've 2533 02:04:16.800 --> 02:04:19.359 hit that do you give? Him a two weeks notice 2534 02:04:19.600 --> 02:04:21.399 or do you send him to a mission where you 2535 02:04:21.399 --> 02:04:24.239 know the MISSION president is a huge byu, football maybe 2536 02:04:24.399 --> 02:04:26.439 and you're like just. RELEASE him after fourteen months i don't, 2537 02:04:26.439 --> 02:04:28.840 think THAT'S how that works but i could know. How 2538 02:04:28.920 --> 02:04:30.840 any of this works, this is by the way did 2539 02:04:30.840 --> 02:04:34.439 you know church? Is only two hours now. It's, just, 2540 02:04:36.119 --> 02:04:39.000 rand new religion. Yeah yeah you'd love it. Now, you 2541 02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:41.640 should come, back well first. Of all let's, calm down 2542 02:04:41.720 --> 02:04:46.560 second of all my son had a friend who was 2543 02:04:46.720 --> 02:04:49.199 leaving on a mission. A couple of years ago, to 2544 02:04:49.239 --> 02:04:52.720 your mission, or NO to your mission but, i, can 2545 02:04:52.800 --> 02:04:55.279 remember he's like yeah my BUDDY. Just left for the 2546 02:04:55.439 --> 02:04:58.359 mtc and then like, Two, Weeks later he's like hey 2547 02:04:58.399 --> 02:05:00.600 i'm going to HAVE dinner at he's doing Mtc at 2548 02:05:00.600 --> 02:05:02.079 his house and i'm going. To HAVE dinner with, him 2549 02:05:02.079 --> 02:05:03.880 and i. Was LIKE wait a, second when i was 2550 02:05:03.920 --> 02:05:05.520 young when your, friend went on, a, mission you, Were 2551 02:05:05.560 --> 02:05:07.520 like well he's dead. I'll never. See him. Again that's 2552 02:05:07.520 --> 02:05:12.279 over like, you you could write letters. And that's kind of, 2553 02:05:12.319 --> 02:05:14.840 it there was no, email there's no face. Side there's 2554 02:05:14.880 --> 02:05:18.079 no phone call it's like. An entirely different cultural experience 2555 02:05:18.199 --> 02:05:20.840 my grandson did that when he went out to. Less than, 2556 02:05:20.880 --> 02:05:24.279 a year ago and yeah the, first four weeks or. 2557 02:05:24.319 --> 02:05:25.239 Whatever he was at. 2558 02:05:25.279 --> 02:05:31.960 Home and get this generations, my he calls my daughter his. 2559 02:05:32.039 --> 02:05:32.279 Mother. 2560 02:05:33.079 --> 02:05:37.359 Calls him every week, now when you were younger and 2561 02:05:37.439 --> 02:05:40.239 when my, son went out years ago you, Got two 2562 02:05:40.319 --> 02:05:40.680 Calls A. 2563 02:05:40.760 --> 02:05:42.800 Year christmas and mother's. Day you. 2564 02:05:42.840 --> 02:05:45.479 Were in jail, that's it now they call. THEY talk 2565 02:05:45.720 --> 02:05:49.000 every single week i always give. A, Bad, time about. 2566 02:05:49.039 --> 02:05:50.880 THAT probably no it's. GOOD i think it's. Good i 2567 02:05:50.880 --> 02:05:53.439 think it's positive like the mental, toll it probably would 2568 02:05:53.439 --> 02:05:56.399 take probably help keep him. Out, THERE away from, everybody, Yeah, 2569 02:05:56.840 --> 02:05:59.079 i truly remember like okay. Friend went on A mission, 2570 02:05:59.239 --> 02:06:01.199 i'm never gonna i thought that's never. Gonna talk, to 2571 02:06:01.279 --> 02:06:03.079 him again, and oftentimes by the, way that is what 2572 02:06:03.079 --> 02:06:04.960 happened because you go. On, and do different things. Anyway 2573 02:06:04.960 --> 02:06:06.119 we got completely doled. 2574 02:06:06.199 --> 02:06:11.399 But, to some things up yes HERE there's a connection to. 2575 02:06:11.399 --> 02:06:12.840 Byu with him that did. 2576 02:06:12.880 --> 02:06:15.920 Not exist with the bands the fact that it's that 2577 02:06:15.960 --> 02:06:18.399 there are reports out there that he's making less Than 2578 02:06:18.439 --> 02:06:20.319 he would be at oregon doesn't shock me in THE 2579 02:06:20.399 --> 02:06:21.279 least because. 2580 02:06:21.319 --> 02:06:23.039 OF what i just said i just think. THAT'S the 2581 02:06:23.039 --> 02:06:24.039 way it is i don't think you. 2582 02:06:24.039 --> 02:06:27.760 CAN make the same comparison i think the sports world 2583 02:06:28.319 --> 02:06:31.359 was Turned upside down when de bansa. MADE that proclamation 2584 02:06:31.479 --> 02:06:33.560 on television i think we all a. Lot of people 2585 02:06:33.600 --> 02:06:34.359 were stunned he. 2586 02:06:34.319 --> 02:06:36.359 Did It ON. First take and steven a. Smith thought, 2587 02:06:36.359 --> 02:06:37.920 he was crazy he's? Like what, do you mean he's? 2588 02:06:37.920 --> 02:06:39.479 LIKE what do you he i think, he thought he 2589 02:06:39.520 --> 02:06:42.199 was skiddy as if it wasn't. A serious piece of 2590 02:06:42.239 --> 02:06:43.960 news but this is. Not the case. 2591 02:06:44.079 --> 02:06:47.119 With lines it wasn't it i'm not trying to mission 2592 02:06:47.199 --> 02:06:49.760 this is A, huge get for byu is but it 2593 02:06:49.800 --> 02:06:53.760 doesn't shock. Me that they got him it just It, 2594 02:06:53.920 --> 02:06:57.439 fits so good. For kilane good for them and these 2595 02:06:57.439 --> 02:06:59.720 things always, kind of cracked me up because here's. The 2596 02:07:00.119 --> 02:07:02.720 basketball and football ball football does take a little more 2597 02:07:02.720 --> 02:07:03.880 time before you really. 2598 02:07:03.920 --> 02:07:04.159 See. 2599 02:07:04.159 --> 02:07:06.439 WHAT they're, Made Up now i mean Isaac wilson came 2600 02:07:06.479 --> 02:07:09.039 to be utah immediately and then he gets thrust it 2601 02:07:09.119 --> 02:07:10.319 right into it and we see how. 2602 02:07:10.319 --> 02:07:12.840 Difficult that was, for him the ban say is only. 2603 02:07:12.840 --> 02:07:15.119 Gonna be there one year we're gonna know everything about 2604 02:07:15.199 --> 02:07:16.119 him in no time and. 2605 02:07:16.159 --> 02:07:18.000 Then he's gonna, be gone yes like that and we 2606 02:07:18.119 --> 02:07:20.479 kind of already do because he's. Such a well known kid, 2607 02:07:20.640 --> 02:07:23.159 your point's a Good one BECAUSE you. KNOW ryder has 2608 02:07:23.199 --> 02:07:27.319 byu connections aj has been on the radar of basketball 2609 02:07:27.319 --> 02:07:29.840 people for three years and HE played a little high 2610 02:07:30.119 --> 02:07:32.199 i don't know what to call what he did here 2611 02:07:32.319 --> 02:07:35.840 at the school did apparently academy he's an accreditation before they're. 2612 02:07:35.840 --> 02:07:39.399 Actually anyway, he played here but ultimately WHEN it comes 2613 02:07:39.399 --> 02:07:41.600 to the i don't know, where you've read the information 2614 02:07:41.640 --> 02:07:44.079 the rider's not GETTING as much money from byu as 2615 02:07:44.119 --> 02:07:46.800 he Did. As he would for oregon But there's. 2616 02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:47.399 In a d. News. 2617 02:07:47.520 --> 02:07:51.159 Article look it, up stunning You Don't Say did the provo? 2618 02:07:51.319 --> 02:07:54.520 Daily herald coroborate the sources you got to be hidden. 2619 02:07:54.600 --> 02:07:57.439 Me because here's the deal let maybe he's getting. A 2620 02:07:57.439 --> 02:08:01.039 few hundred thousand less he's not getting a tremendous amount Less. 2621 02:08:01.039 --> 02:08:02.520 Than he would from oregon. IT was the same thing, 2622 02:08:03.079 --> 02:08:04.840 i agree with you that But the narrative about de, 2623 02:08:04.960 --> 02:08:07.079 Bonsen was the Same thing like oh b yu Didn't 2624 02:08:07.079 --> 02:08:09.640 Step up, the way, north, Caroll Like stop it okay 2625 02:08:09.880 --> 02:08:12.359 jeff goodman seven million dollars. FOR five months of basketball 2626 02:08:12.359 --> 02:08:16.960 i don't understand why there is this like reluxed Reluctance 2627 02:08:17.039 --> 02:08:20.039 to just embrace what i'll perceive to, be, your uncomfortable 2628 02:08:20.039 --> 02:08:23.119 truth that yes you are. Paying these kids top. Dollar 2629 02:08:23.520 --> 02:08:26.079 do your victory lap it's a GOOD thing. If you're a, Byu, 2630 02:08:26.119 --> 02:08:28.960 fan why the pushback well they're framing it. As a 2631 02:08:29.079 --> 02:08:31.239 whole new style you. NEED to read the Article i. Know, 2632 02:08:31.279 --> 02:08:34.079 you're not desert news yeah let me get rid. 2633 02:08:33.960 --> 02:08:36.319 Of they're framing it as a whole new. Style Of 2634 02:08:36.399 --> 02:08:42.600 Recruiting and selling did? DICK harmon read the. Article i 2635 02:08:42.600 --> 02:08:46.039 didn't even? Read who read? The article selling the culture 2636 02:08:47.279 --> 02:08:48.039 and you. 2637 02:08:48.079 --> 02:08:49.880 Know, those kind of things, yeah and you know what 2638 02:08:50.159 --> 02:08:55.000 and process and, writing a massive nil chef all. 2639 02:08:55.039 --> 02:08:55.119 The. 2640 02:08:55.199 --> 02:08:55.800 Things can be. 2641 02:08:55.760 --> 02:08:57.800 True spans it would not surprise me if He. Is 2642 02:08:57.880 --> 02:09:00.439 getting Less than oregon but not, you're right to. Your 2643 02:09:00.520 --> 02:09:04.279 point not substantially less if one team's offering let's just, 2644 02:09:04.319 --> 02:09:06.520 throw out, an easy number ten million and, the everte is. 2645 02:09:06.600 --> 02:09:11.000 Offering one that's a problem, but if it's you know 2646 02:09:11.039 --> 02:09:13.680 a couple hundred grand off of multimillions probably. 2647 02:09:13.680 --> 02:09:16.199 Doesn't really mean that much let. Me pull up this 2648 02:09:16.399 --> 02:09:19.520 ARTICLE oh you? Know what i? Just saw who wrote. 2649 02:09:19.560 --> 02:09:22.159 It i'm not reading that. That's, just he's carrying. Water 2650 02:09:22.359 --> 02:09:24.960 okay like THAT'S dumb but. Here's where I wanted to. 2651 02:09:25.000 --> 02:09:27.199 Here's what i WANT to but here's what i want. 2652 02:09:27.239 --> 02:09:30.279 To talk to, you about because you, Know for a 2653 02:09:30.399 --> 02:09:34.960 decade plus utah HAD. An innate advantage over. Byu and 2654 02:09:35.000 --> 02:09:36.720 it was, this it was actually. Two, It was two 2655 02:09:36.760 --> 02:09:40.960 tiered okay i've always said this the two Biggest seminal moments. 2656 02:09:41.119 --> 02:09:44.399 For the Utah football program or this Kyle's Saying no 2657 02:09:44.439 --> 02:09:46.960 it was Alma, mater and yes to Utah and then 2658 02:09:47.000 --> 02:09:50.159 getting THE pac twelve, invite WHERE, byu did not and 2659 02:09:50.239 --> 02:09:54.720 byu in a reactionary, move because it was. Reactionary elected 2660 02:09:54.760 --> 02:10:00.000 to go independent throughout the course, Of those two Journey 2661 02:10:00.159 --> 02:10:03.520 paths utah under coach wit was able to build the 2662 02:10:03.560 --> 02:10:07.000 dominant program and dominated. Their rival for a generation because 2663 02:10:07.039 --> 02:10:12.439 of that Advantage and because, of who kyle is Now they're. 2664 02:10:12.439 --> 02:10:14.920 Both in the big twelve there's no advantage, one Way 2665 02:10:15.000 --> 02:10:17.079 or the other except utah Is a. Full member and 2666 02:10:17.119 --> 02:10:19.720 BYU's not. They will be next year they're, both in 2667 02:10:19.760 --> 02:10:22.840 the SAME conference they, Both have p four access but 2668 02:10:22.960 --> 02:10:25.479 it feels like the momentum is shifted down south as 2669 02:10:25.479 --> 02:10:28.159 a result of the lds understanding of, the power of 2670 02:10:28.199 --> 02:10:31.760 the purse, the members of the community and their understanding 2671 02:10:31.840 --> 02:10:35.039 of how you can utilize that when the. Opportunity is 2672 02:10:35.079 --> 02:10:38.640 presented to you the opportunity opportunity has not been PRESENTED 2673 02:10:39.279 --> 02:10:42.800 and these powerful lds byu alums that have built big 2674 02:10:42.840 --> 02:10:46.279 companies and MLMs and have cashed in to make a 2675 02:10:46.279 --> 02:10:49.760 lot of money are now writing checks to support the 2676 02:10:49.840 --> 02:10:52.560 athletic department that they, Love and that TO me dave 2677 02:10:53.159 --> 02:10:55.960 has GIVEN byu an Advantage that i don't. 2678 02:10:55.960 --> 02:10:59.239 Know utah has right, now and especially with basketball that's clear, 2679 02:10:59.279 --> 02:11:01.600 because you hit that now what were you around thirteen 2680 02:11:01.600 --> 02:11:03.760 million dollars or thirteen to fifteen off. 2681 02:11:03.840 --> 02:11:06.560 Vestimates, for this year's roster yes and not to mention, 2682 02:11:06.600 --> 02:11:09.119 where they're paying their coach who they just signed. TO a, 2683 02:11:09.199 --> 02:11:11.520 massive contract extension i mean they still have to go out. 2684 02:11:11.520 --> 02:11:13.960 On the court, AND deliver, but that team i mean it's, 2685 02:11:14.079 --> 02:11:17.119 it's it's, They're stacked there They're loaded they're gonna be 2686 02:11:17.159 --> 02:11:19.680 it's not gonna be that difficult to at least put 2687 02:11:19.720 --> 02:11:23.000 a really competitive team. On, THE on the floor football 2688 02:11:23.000 --> 02:11:23.199 i think. 2689 02:11:23.279 --> 02:11:25.319 Is a little bit different you, have to, have, more 2690 02:11:25.359 --> 02:11:27.760 players you know really you know that to. 2691 02:11:28.159 --> 02:11:28.760 Make a team, a. 2692 02:11:28.760 --> 02:11:30.880 Winner, and you, know we'll see you know the uth aren't. 2693 02:11:30.880 --> 02:11:33.560 Having a terrible, recruiting year by the way they sign 2694 02:11:33.720 --> 02:11:35.239 Said The SAFETY from tim. 2695 02:11:35.279 --> 02:11:36.600 Fu nali i they got he. 2696 02:11:36.760 --> 02:11:38.640 JUST committed, today AS well i Mean grant I, A 2697 02:11:38.640 --> 02:11:42.760 great he's not lions. He's not at, that level but 2698 02:11:43.399 --> 02:11:44.800 you know it'd be very soon to see when they 2699 02:11:44.880 --> 02:11:46.880 start lining up and playing. How it, all pans out but. 2700 02:11:47.119 --> 02:11:49.880 Yeah here's the funny thing Remember when they first signed 2701 02:11:49.920 --> 02:11:54.000 dabansa and and they started talking about next YEAR'S team 2702 02:11:54.119 --> 02:11:55.840 and all the nim money and then there was. A 2703 02:11:55.840 --> 02:11:57.479 thought of a win are? They going to help football 2704 02:11:58.319 --> 02:12:01.720 well that didn't take. Long IF that's The case but 2705 02:12:01.840 --> 02:12:04.880 i still i'm going. To revert Back to this while, 2706 02:12:04.880 --> 02:12:08.960 this lion's thing is huge they had a big advantage 2707 02:12:09.000 --> 02:12:11.880 and more power TO them to get, an lds kid, 2708 02:12:11.920 --> 02:12:16.000 who's great who's you know a top five quarterback and 2709 02:12:16.119 --> 02:12:19.359 has a father who played down there and FAMILY members 2710 02:12:19.399 --> 02:12:22.560 who went to, byu that that. Right there you haven't 2711 02:12:22.560 --> 02:12:24.479 advantage all you really have to do, is not screw. 2712 02:12:24.520 --> 02:12:26.920 That up, and it didn't and no. 2713 02:12:26.960 --> 02:12:30.399 It's a really, GOOD point and you know byu has 2714 02:12:30.520 --> 02:12:34.520 always kind of relied upon being able to attract as 2715 02:12:34.560 --> 02:12:37.560 MANY as the top shelf lds. Talented kids as they 2716 02:12:37.560 --> 02:12:39.760 can now they're never going. To attract all of them 2717 02:12:39.800 --> 02:12:42.079 BECAUSE you can have An lds Experience, at the, university 2718 02:12:42.119 --> 02:12:44.479 of utah you know you can have YOU can actually 2719 02:12:44.520 --> 02:12:46.840 have an lds experience in a lot of places now 2720 02:12:46.840 --> 02:12:48.119 in a way that you. Couldn't back in the day 2721 02:12:48.159 --> 02:12:51.640 because the footprint. Of, the church has grown obviously there 2722 02:12:51.720 --> 02:12:54.880 are ward. Houses all, over the place you know there's 2723 02:12:54.880 --> 02:12:57.600 An institute Up. At the UNIVERSITY of utah but the 2724 02:12:57.640 --> 02:13:01.399 byu experience IS unique juxtaposed any other lds. Experience you 2725 02:13:01.439 --> 02:13:03.920 could have elsewhere there will always be. Kids who just 2726 02:13:04.039 --> 02:13:07.479 want that AND there's been enough successful byu athletes who 2727 02:13:07.520 --> 02:13:10.760 are now having children generation after generation that they will 2728 02:13:10.800 --> 02:13:13.560 be raised. In kind of that ecosystem and, if you 2729 02:13:13.640 --> 02:13:16.720 just want. That you just want that but you can't 2730 02:13:16.760 --> 02:13:19.119 just rely. On getting all of them, BUT a kid 2731 02:13:19.239 --> 02:13:22.199 like This I, Said This, about britain covey BRITAIN, covey 2732 02:13:22.279 --> 02:13:24.359 like if You're Byu you cannot let britain. Covey out 2733 02:13:24.359 --> 02:13:26.680 of your backyard and a kid like this like if 2734 02:13:26.720 --> 02:13:30.319 you CAN lock, in the best lds talent you can 2735 02:13:30.399 --> 02:13:32.359 throw punches with any of the. Best schools in the 2736 02:13:32.359 --> 02:13:35.640 country you. Can't Only rely. On it and colonnie doesn't but, 2737 02:13:35.720 --> 02:13:38.840 this does, Feel Significant today quite frankly and i'm. Not 2738 02:13:38.920 --> 02:13:39.520 diminishing that. 2739 02:13:39.600 --> 02:13:41.800 At ALL it, absolutely does like i mean, we got 2740 02:13:41.800 --> 02:13:43.079 to be patient wait and see when he. 2741 02:13:43.079 --> 02:13:44.520 Gets out on the field but and. 2742 02:13:44.560 --> 02:13:46.760 You don't think about this You Get, a call from 2743 02:13:46.840 --> 02:13:49.279 danny ainge You Get, A Call, from taysom hill steve 2744 02:13:49.359 --> 02:13:50.640 young and. 2745 02:13:51.039 --> 02:13:52.720 That's in the, same article by the. WAY you did. 2746 02:13:52.760 --> 02:13:55.399 READ it i knew. It, I was on tour look. 2747 02:13:55.600 --> 02:13:58.239 I very much DID not i promise. You I didn't 2748 02:13:58.239 --> 02:14:00.560 read it so i Just Tried to at the desk 2749 02:14:00.560 --> 02:14:02.520 news website and my computer gave. Me the middle of, 2750 02:14:02.560 --> 02:14:05.000 crash it just was? Like what are you doing. It 2751 02:14:05.039 --> 02:14:07.279 doesn't work for me that would be great if it. 2752 02:14:07.319 --> 02:14:10.439 DID that instead of crashed. I, don't have access anyway 2753 02:14:10.960 --> 02:14:13.560 yeah there's just a lot of things Working in their 2754 02:14:13.600 --> 02:14:15.840 Favor and i'm, happy for. Kilanie for sure you know 2755 02:14:16.159 --> 02:14:17.920 and it's gonna be a lot of fun to see. 2756 02:14:17.920 --> 02:14:19.640 Where it goes from here and. Don't forget this could 2757 02:14:19.640 --> 02:14:21.800 snoway you talked about. Them being at thirty one now 2758 02:14:22.119 --> 02:14:25.279 their highest. Class ever, was ranked thirty but this these 2759 02:14:25.399 --> 02:14:27.720 kind of things tend to, you have a snowball effect 2760 02:14:27.720 --> 02:14:28.119 and we'll. 2761 02:14:28.119 --> 02:14:30.720 See, What happens, TO it yeah and look i, want 2762 02:14:30.760 --> 02:14:34.720 to be very clear what honestly is offensive to. Me 2763 02:14:34.840 --> 02:14:37.920 is when people lie i'm. Not even saying you're. Denying 2764 02:14:37.960 --> 02:14:40.359 you're lying to me when you say it's not about the, 2765 02:14:41.079 --> 02:14:43.159 nil checks that you're. Writing you're lying to me and 2766 02:14:43.159 --> 02:14:44.720 when it says not about the POWER of the purse 2767 02:14:44.760 --> 02:14:48.199 that byu has and they're utilizing. And CAPITALIZING on this 2768 02:14:48.279 --> 02:14:51.479 opportunity but i KNOW it's Not. Only that i love 2769 02:14:51.560 --> 02:14:53.880 kalani he's, A Friend Of. The show ay rod jay they, 2770 02:14:53.920 --> 02:14:56.800 have a great coaching staff they have, a great game 2771 02:14:56.880 --> 02:14:59.239 day experience, they have a great history and they. Do 2772 02:14:59.319 --> 02:15:03.119 have A great CULT sure and writer and aj will 2773 02:15:03.199 --> 02:15:07.560 develop as People and Young. Men under kevin and klonnie 2774 02:15:07.600 --> 02:15:11.920 but don't tell me that intertwined into the tapestry is not. 2775 02:15:12.359 --> 02:15:14.439 The checks that YOU'RE writing it just is i don't 2776 02:15:14.479 --> 02:15:16.439 know why we have to deny that where it has 2777 02:15:16.520 --> 02:15:19.840 to rely on COLUMNS from a b y U reporter 2778 02:15:19.920 --> 02:15:21.920 from the d news that is carrying water for the 2779 02:15:22.000 --> 02:15:24.119 school that. Is owned by the church you don't. 2780 02:15:25.359 --> 02:15:25.439 The. 2781 02:15:25.520 --> 02:15:30.720 Church, school brought that up oh it's just easy to 2782 02:15:30.840 --> 02:15:33.479 draw the, Lines and what's happening here like do they 2783 02:15:33.560 --> 02:15:35.560 get phone calls to say please write this? 2784 02:15:35.720 --> 02:15:40.039 TO distract a phone call. I think it's just innate. 2785 02:15:40.079 --> 02:15:42.239 They own the school in the paper man like it's the. 2786 02:15:42.279 --> 02:15:45.960 SAME thing, IT is anyway i mean. I really struck 2787 02:15:46.000 --> 02:15:47.720 a nerve i think we're. Going to change tonight's show 2788 02:15:47.760 --> 02:15:50.880 we're going to talk more about don't be. Writing practices 2789 02:15:50.920 --> 02:15:53.840 of the News just don't tell Me i'm. Not seeing. 2790 02:15:53.880 --> 02:15:57.079 WHAT i'm seeing it's insulting i. Get what you're saying 2791 02:15:57.079 --> 02:15:58.600 there there may be a, little bit of difference there 2792 02:15:58.680 --> 02:16:00.600 but it's. Not the focus of this tell ME this 2793 02:16:00.640 --> 02:16:02.359 by any before i set you loose and. We'll get 2794 02:16:02.399 --> 02:16:07.399 one more Teas do You Feel like utah and utah 2795 02:16:07.439 --> 02:16:11.880 athletics are in at least a SIMILAR call to sac 2796 02:16:12.079 --> 02:16:15.800 to byu with their financial resources to, take advantage of 2797 02:16:15.800 --> 02:16:18.640 THIS opportunity because that's what i, Think. The bigger story is. 2798 02:16:18.720 --> 02:16:21.760 DAVE that's a tough one i know when the recent 2799 02:16:22.640 --> 02:16:25.520 hearings were finally determined, A Week or two ago mark, 2800 02:16:25.560 --> 02:16:26.439 carlan came out and said. 2801 02:16:26.439 --> 02:16:28.840 This is a great. Day this will equalize stuff. It doesn't. 2802 02:16:28.880 --> 02:16:33.920 TOTALLY equalized stuff it helps I can't even imagine. 2803 02:16:33.319 --> 02:16:35.280 That, Byu doesn't have the sorry. 2804 02:16:35.360 --> 02:16:38.600 Utah doesn't have that capability YOU talked about all that LDS. 2805 02:16:38.719 --> 02:16:41.079 Money that funnels into byu. 2806 02:16:40.799 --> 02:16:42.079 There's plenty Of. It that goes into. 2807 02:16:42.159 --> 02:16:44.360 Utah you said it yourself you know their head coach 2808 02:16:44.520 --> 02:16:47.559 is AN. Active member of the. Lds, CHURCHILLS their defensive coordinator, 2809 02:16:47.600 --> 02:16:52.079 sure i Mean you know it's just. I'm hard pressed 2810 02:16:52.079 --> 02:16:56.760 to believe you talked about people lying that they they 2811 02:16:56.840 --> 02:16:59.280 can't compete on, par just with the money and. 2812 02:16:59.319 --> 02:17:02.639 It becomes, About, other things all right david let's get 2813 02:17:02.639 --> 02:17:04.440 a tease ten. Thirty five cam with you? What Have 2814 02:17:04.520 --> 02:17:05.000 got coming up. 2815 02:17:05.079 --> 02:17:08.120 Utah jazz draft is tomorrow spence is gonna. Break it 2816 02:17:08.159 --> 02:17:10.200 down to you he's gonna. Give, you his top five 2817 02:17:10.520 --> 02:17:13.159 Also who he likes the jazz to draft and who 2818 02:17:13.159 --> 02:17:14.719 knows it may not even. Be in his top five 2819 02:17:14.719 --> 02:17:17.040 there's a difference between your top five and who you 2820 02:17:17.040 --> 02:17:19.319 would like to see. In that number five? Position will 2821 02:17:19.360 --> 02:17:22.879 There be? Trades why Has bailey dropped? Why has edgecomb 2822 02:17:22.920 --> 02:17:25.000 moved up all those questions are going to be. Answered 2823 02:17:25.040 --> 02:17:28.680 by one spence check its might even you're gonna. 2824 02:17:28.440 --> 02:17:29.440 Have to do a little research on. 2825 02:17:29.479 --> 02:17:33.479 This check the d news do might EVEN just, briefly 2826 02:17:33.520 --> 02:17:34.920 address the nhl draft? 2827 02:17:35.079 --> 02:17:37.399 Which begins two days. LATER we CAN do that i 2828 02:17:37.479 --> 02:17:39.079 was i. KNOW you're a hockey guy i was On 2829 02:17:39.079 --> 02:17:41.399 A zoom call. With bill armstroana twelve thirty where were 2830 02:17:41.440 --> 02:17:44.120 you lunching with a? Friend during your long day? FIRST, 2831 02:17:44.200 --> 02:17:46.959 of my, multi interviews, O my gosh all right. Dave 2832 02:17:46.959 --> 02:17:48.680 seen a, few, hours hey See You buddy the great, 2833 02:17:48.760 --> 02:17:51.879 dave Fox Ten thirty five cam yu tonight we will 2834 02:17:51.920 --> 02:17:54.079 catch a quick break and we'll do the five. O'clock 2835 02:17:54.120 --> 02:17:56.239 hour of the program it's, been a, busy news cycle 2836 02:17:56.680 --> 02:17:59.239 of course We've Talked a lot about rider lions committing, 2837 02:17:59.280 --> 02:18:04.200 to play for byu oh. We Have Some breaking news 2838 02:18:04.840 --> 02:18:07.840 boston atlantan brooklyn are finalized in a Three team Trade 2839 02:18:07.840 --> 02:18:10.079 that sends kristaps for zingis and a Second, Round Pick 2840 02:18:10.120 --> 02:18:12.840 to The hawks terrence man in atlanta's Twenty, second pick 2841 02:18:12.840 --> 02:18:15.360 To The nets and the Mini Vans on the move 2842 02:18:15.440 --> 02:18:17.840 george niang and A second Rounder to the celtics as 2843 02:18:17.879 --> 02:18:23.280 boston continues to shed salary randomly Busy day On. A 2844 02:18:23.360 --> 02:18:27.440 random tuesday in june, nba offseason is just beginning but 2845 02:18:27.760 --> 02:18:30.840 the player movement that was rumored. Appears To be very Real. 2846 02:18:31.639 --> 02:18:35.600 JORDAN poole, is a. PELICAN. Cj mccollin excuse Me. Cj 2847 02:18:35.680 --> 02:18:40.280 McCollum is a Wizard. Kristaps Porzingis Is a hawk terrence 2848 02:18:40.319 --> 02:18:43.239 man atlanta's Twenty. Second Pick to the nets George. Niang 2849 02:18:43.319 --> 02:18:47.159 Goes to the Celtics Former jazz man obviously desmond baine 2850 02:18:47.399 --> 02:18:49.399 Is A Member of the magic kevin durant Is A. 2851 02:18:49.440 --> 02:18:53.879 Member of the houston rockets so. Already Five pretty significant 2852 02:18:53.920 --> 02:18:56.079 deals drew holliday also has Been Shipped Out. To The 2853 02:18:56.079 --> 02:18:58.719 portland trail blazers the jazz have not gotten involved, in 2854 02:18:58.760 --> 02:19:02.559 any of these transactions but maybe tomorrow. Will bring something 2855 02:19:02.600 --> 02:19:04.760 PRETTY exciting, if, you're an nba fan Tonight, It's kind 2856 02:19:04.760 --> 02:19:06.520 of Like. Christmas eve love the draft we're gonna. Have 2857 02:19:06.559 --> 02:19:09.440 great covers for you guys before we. SAY canight's start 2858 02:19:09.479 --> 02:19:12.200 your engines espn seven hundred is excited To Announce The 2859 02:19:12.239 --> 02:19:15.079 First ever monster Jam World finals coming to utah. July 2860 02:19:15.159 --> 02:19:17.799 fourth Or the fifth listen to shan O'Connell for your 2861 02:19:17.879 --> 02:19:20.559 chance to win tickets or get yours at ticketmaster dot, 2862 02:19:20.600 --> 02:19:23.959 Com now, Before, They're Gone All right porter when, dave 2863 02:19:24.000 --> 02:19:26.639 fox was in studio we summoned the help of the 2864 02:19:26.719 --> 02:19:31.399 community to help us understand why THERE'S this new dynamic 2865 02:19:31.440 --> 02:19:33.479 with lds missions where apparently if, you can throw a 2866 02:19:33.479 --> 02:19:36.600 football you're only asked. To serve for fourteen months were 2867 02:19:36.639 --> 02:19:39.840 you enlightened at all? By, either texters or. Callers, no you, 2868 02:19:39.920 --> 02:19:40.239 Were not. 2869 02:19:41.399 --> 02:19:44.520 No no one no one had any. Any real input 2870 02:19:44.559 --> 02:19:47.399 on this let me give. Our, texters, one more chance yeah. 2871 02:19:47.479 --> 02:19:51.959 No any Feedback at all angry people usually a text line. 2872 02:19:51.959 --> 02:19:52.600 Is full, of angry. 2873 02:19:52.600 --> 02:19:59.079 PEOPLE yeah no no anger i think folks, are just 2874 02:19:59.159 --> 02:20:02.000 surveying this situation not sure, what TO think. About it 2875 02:20:02.000 --> 02:20:05.159 which i. Understand it's a new world we're in the 2876 02:20:05.239 --> 02:20:06.440 landscape of college football. 2877 02:20:06.440 --> 02:20:08.959 And recruiting and the like it is. A new world 2878 02:20:08.959 --> 02:20:12.040 For sure so Congratulations to kailani AND a rod and 2879 02:20:12.079 --> 02:20:14.520 the byu football program for locking in this young man 2880 02:20:14.520 --> 02:20:17.280 their highest rate to recruit at the quarterback positions. In two, 2881 02:20:17.319 --> 02:20:20.479 THOUSAND and two all RIGHT i Will Be on tv 2882 02:20:20.600 --> 02:20:24.000 with dave fox TONIGHT. Ten thirty Five. Km yu it's 2883 02:20:24.040 --> 02:20:26.600 talking jazz we're gonna do a lot of draft prep talk. 2884 02:20:26.639 --> 02:20:29.680 About some, Of, these prospects all right porter will We 2885 02:20:29.760 --> 02:20:32.719 be talking about the? Jazz making a move tomorrow Or 2886 02:20:32.840 --> 02:20:35.239 we talked about the jazz standing pat at five and making? 2887 02:20:35.280 --> 02:20:36.399 THEIR pick WHERE they're at. 2888 02:20:38.360 --> 02:20:42.159 I Think i think that the jazz are going to. 2889 02:20:42.200 --> 02:20:47.680 Make the number, five pick that being said if there 2890 02:20:47.760 --> 02:20:50.159 were a team to trade, OUT of the top five 2891 02:20:50.200 --> 02:20:52.239 i Do. BELIEVE it is the jazz i think that 2892 02:20:52.319 --> 02:20:57.600 if a certain collection Of picks go ahead Of Utah 2893 02:20:57.680 --> 02:21:00.360 and say in ace bailey is the guy that. IS 2894 02:21:00.479 --> 02:21:04.239 available at number five i know we've heard kind Of 2895 02:21:04.280 --> 02:21:07.360 on both Spectrums The jazz thoughts on ace bailey potentially 2896 02:21:07.440 --> 02:21:09.719 being really high on and potentially being kind of low 2897 02:21:09.799 --> 02:21:12.520 on him. BASED on some certain things i think, that 2898 02:21:12.760 --> 02:21:17.399 if there's, a team, say you know top ten That Is, 2899 02:21:17.600 --> 02:21:21.799 really Into, an ace bailey a conkkinipple whoever may, BE 2900 02:21:21.840 --> 02:21:24.879 available there at Five i don't think the jazz would hesitate, 2901 02:21:24.920 --> 02:21:28.079 to move Off Of, that take an Igor Demon take 2902 02:21:28.639 --> 02:21:31.600 maybe a conk, nipple if he's, still, available and you 2903 02:21:31.639 --> 02:21:34.239 know oh maybe we'll take another second round, pick from 2904 02:21:34.280 --> 02:21:38.040 you as well just to facilitate moving back a few 2905 02:21:38.040 --> 02:21:41.360 spots and getting a different guy that. WE'RE just as 2906 02:21:41.360 --> 02:21:44.879 comfortable with i could see that Very well being what. 2907 02:21:44.920 --> 02:21:47.600 The jazz end up, Doing, but as you know spence 2908 02:21:48.440 --> 02:21:50.920 to make a, deal happen on trade day there is 2909 02:21:51.000 --> 02:21:55.040 a lot of moving parts and usually usually more than 2910 02:21:55.040 --> 02:21:58.719 two TEAMS In A lot Of nba draft day? Deal so, 2911 02:21:59.319 --> 02:22:02.120 will IT happen likely not But i could see the. Jazz, 2912 02:22:02.159 --> 02:22:02.559 doing it for. 2913 02:22:02.520 --> 02:22:06.040 Sure reminder, when we say goodn tomorrow we WILL Move right. 2914 02:22:06.079 --> 02:22:09.040 INTO our nba draft coverage i, will Be Anchoring the 2915 02:22:09.079 --> 02:22:13.399 Coverage And, richard smith and gordy chasa a combine a million, 2916 02:22:13.479 --> 02:22:16.280 Years experience in pro basketball we'll. Be along for The 2917 02:22:16.399 --> 02:22:19.399 ride and then On thursday night it'll be Smithy and 2918 02:22:19.440 --> 02:22:22.559 myself for a ROUND Two and then the Nhl, Draft 2919 02:22:22.600 --> 02:22:24.840 Comes away on friday Fun Week on the show fun. 2920 02:22:24.840 --> 02:22:27.159 Week in the Com Community porter before he saga night 2921 02:22:27.200 --> 02:22:28.840 will come To our way on a wednesday edition Of 2922 02:22:28.879 --> 02:22:29.760 the show On A. 2923 02:22:29.799 --> 02:22:33.040 Wednesday edition of, the drive as you MENTIONED We're going 2924 02:22:33.120 --> 02:22:36.360 to cover nba. Draft And, Go From there craig Bowler 2925 02:22:36.479 --> 02:22:40.399 Jack voice of The Utah jazz stops BY neil Smith 2926 02:22:40.639 --> 02:22:43.719 talking some nhl. Draft We're hoping for one TIM Bond 2927 02:22:43.719 --> 02:22:46.840 Temps for the NBA Daily assist, on an nba draft 2928 02:22:46.920 --> 02:22:50.399 day and then we talked a lot About. BYU's newest, 2929 02:22:50.479 --> 02:22:54.680 COMMIT writer lions of course Aj debonsa A lot of 2930 02:22:55.520 --> 02:22:58.760 team down south. Elements On the show today spencer linton. 2931 02:22:58.799 --> 02:23:00.319 Will join, the program tomorrow. 2932 02:23:00.079 --> 02:23:01.680 All right there we Go join. Us for a WEDNESDAY 2933 02:23:01.760 --> 02:23:03.600 show We'll sag and I reminder I'll Be on tv 2934 02:23:03.680 --> 02:23:05.959 with dave. Fox tonight ten thirty five cam w? Are 2935 02:23:05.959 --> 02:23:08.600 you talking, Jazz Special, Thank you today zach, Harper tim. 2936 02:23:08.680 --> 02:23:11.879 MCMINNIMATE excuse me tim McMahon i JUST combined, Two of 2937 02:23:11.879 --> 02:23:14.200 our nba guests tim mc Minim minim his name is 2938 02:23:14.200 --> 02:23:16.479 tim McMahon would. 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