Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out going deeper.
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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, join me in welcoming the very lovely
Speaker 1: Valentina Fox. Valentina. How are you tonight?
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? So Valentina. Look, I'm a little embarrassed to
Speaker 1: say this, but I'm mixed up this booking, and if
Speaker 1: you're on the show, you're you're either one of two
Speaker 1: types of guests. Can I try and figure out which
Speaker 1: guest you are?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Go for it?
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay? Are you okay? Are you the girl that's
Speaker 1: like cock hungry, gangbang loving, uber submissive lives to like
Speaker 1: serve and please. Man would rather drown and abukaki than
Speaker 1: die peacefully in your bed and surrounded by loved ones.
Speaker 1: Are you that person?
Speaker 2: Or no, no, that's not me.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then you're the influential fendom and fetish model
Speaker 1: whose world famous femdom video strike fear and pump blood
Speaker 1: into the erections of all of your loyal subordinates. Is
Speaker 1: that correct?
Speaker 2: That sounds more okay?
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Thank you for playing along, Valentino Fox,
Speaker 1: I admitted this beforehand. I'd like to tell the audience too.
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of these interviews at this point,
Speaker 1: and so many women will say, oh, and I fendom too, Oh,
Speaker 1: I do fendom stuff too, And I interview pros, I
Speaker 1: interview some performers who are still less than a thousand followers, right.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I know what fin dooming is
Speaker 1: from the outside, as a guy who's married a long time,
Speaker 1: everything else, not necessarily looking to the outside for anything
Speaker 1: else except to watch a ton of porn while she's sleeping.
Speaker 1: That's fun. A findom to me is I text you
Speaker 1: and go, Valentina, how much can I send you right now?
Speaker 1: And you go one hundred? And I go, would two
Speaker 1: hundred be okay? And you say no one hundred and
Speaker 1: I go okay, one hundred, send it over. What is
Speaker 1: a findom? Walk me through what an actual I have
Speaker 1: a real live findom, not someone who says they do fendom.
Speaker 1: What is a what is finndomi?
Speaker 2: So finndom stands for a financial domination. It's it's it's
Speaker 2: a kink within the femdom fetish. So femdom is female domination.
Speaker 2: So basically the fetish of having your money or finance
Speaker 2: controlled by a woman. This looks a lot of different
Speaker 2: ways though, for a lot of different people, And honestly,
Speaker 2: there are very few submissives who are truly just into findom,
Speaker 2: Like that's why you know, I like, I think most
Speaker 2: sex workers also do kind of interact with finn subs
Speaker 2: or pay pigs or whatever they want to call themselves.
Speaker 2: Like I know a lot of strippers or porn stars
Speaker 2: or just only fans girls like you said that get oh,
Speaker 2: I want to serve you. I want to serve you
Speaker 2: those kind of messages as well. So it can like range,
Speaker 2: like it can range from like complete control over a
Speaker 2: sub's life to like setting their allowance for groceries, like
Speaker 2: taking basically everything that isn't essential money and like building
Speaker 2: them a really strict budget. So it can be that
Speaker 2: kind of fine financial control, or I can go all
Speaker 2: the way to like a financial ruin fetish of like
Speaker 2: subs want to completely empty out their bank account. Yeah so,
Speaker 2: and it can be and but a lot of the times, honestly,
Speaker 2: I think it has gotten a little confused now because
Speaker 2: so many people are trying to do it, and some
Speaker 2: people think that it's just expensive femdom basically like doing
Speaker 2: a femdom session, but just charging a lot more from
Speaker 2: it for it. So I guess some people would consider
Speaker 2: it that.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, it kind of varies.
Speaker 1: Do you have a red line? Maybe you don't, And
Speaker 1: that's fine. I will always say this, as long as
Speaker 1: everyone's over eighteen and there's no dogs in the room,
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit what anyone does with anyone anytime. Okay,
Speaker 1: is do you have any kind of line or have
Speaker 1: you crossed over from finndom into finn ruin or financial ruin?
Speaker 1: Have you done that on anyone in the past.
Speaker 2: I definitely have financially ruined a couple of people. It's
Speaker 2: hard to say though, honestly, how many actually, because a
Speaker 2: lot of subs it is just a fantasy. And the
Speaker 2: ones who are smart enough to understand that it's just
Speaker 2: a fantasy, a lot of them will set up like
Speaker 2: another bank account, and they'll have like their like allowance
Speaker 2: basically for findom in that bank account, and they'll be
Speaker 2: sending me screenshots of that bank account saying I want
Speaker 2: you to take everything from me, and then maybe I
Speaker 2: zero that account. But that's not actually.
Speaker 1: All of it. It's not. Yeah, they're not going into
Speaker 1: foreclosure next month because of that, right.
Speaker 2: Well, I have also ruined themselves financially without me even
Speaker 2: being aware of it, and they just weren't communicating where
Speaker 2: they were at financially, and then like four or five
Speaker 2: months into our sub relationship, they're like, hey, I actually
Speaker 2: have to stop. I can't pay my bills and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, I'm behind on Brent. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: not they don't all communicate well to me.
Speaker 1: But okay, so let me ask, then, are you your
Speaker 1: own personality, your own set of morals, your own all
Speaker 1: of that? Are you okay ruining a guy knowing you're
Speaker 1: ruining a guy, actually ruining a guy? Taking the fantasy
Speaker 1: out no separate bank account you're ruining a guy.
Speaker 2: I guess it depends. I have one sub that I
Speaker 2: would say is pretty ruined. But I mean he lives
Speaker 2: with his mom, so like it's not like he's like
Speaker 2: homeless because of it. You know, he just can't move
Speaker 2: out of his mom's house, all right.
Speaker 1: Like many of my listeners, that's not a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean to an extent, like I definitely
Speaker 2: have had subs that were clearly like using me as
Speaker 2: a form of self harm, and that made me uncomfortable. Sure,
Speaker 2: so if it kind of gets like too like self hating,
Speaker 2: then I usually draw the line or we'll just stop responding.
Speaker 2: But a lot of the videos that I make and
Speaker 2: a lot of the subs that I have are really
Speaker 2: into the ruination fantasy. Like I literally just looked over
Speaker 2: and got a text on my laptop as I was
Speaker 2: saying that that said please ruin me from one of
Speaker 2: my sobs, so.
Speaker 1: So oh shit, I was so fascinated by I literally
Speaker 1: lost my question. So is okay, I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about that quite, but is there ever any so
Speaker 1: if i'm your, if you're my fendom, i'm your what
Speaker 1: is the term? Would I be your slave? Would I
Speaker 1: be your servant. Do you have a specific one? Are
Speaker 1: there levels to it? Like? Can I work my way
Speaker 1: up to a slave from a servant?
Speaker 2: I would say, like a sub is kind of what
Speaker 2: I call like everyone, but like a slave is someone
Speaker 2: who serves me.
Speaker 1: And serves you. Would I mean, how is that is
Speaker 1: that any different? I mean they're specifically sending stuff to
Speaker 1: you or you requesting stuff from them, or so.
Speaker 2: I am known for my clips, so a lot of people.
Speaker 2: A lot of my money that I make I make
Speaker 2: through my clip sales. So some people will just engage
Speaker 2: with me that way, and they'll just buy my clips
Speaker 2: and then they'll kind of pretend to have a session
Speaker 2: with me through my clips. The next step would be
Speaker 2: like contacting me, paying to talk to me, doing a
Speaker 2: Skype session or phone call or something like that. So
Speaker 2: I will like Skype session, do like a chat, video session,
Speaker 2: video response session. I mean with pretty much anyone who's
Speaker 2: respectful and who pays for it. They don't have to
Speaker 2: actually serve me or have any relationship with me. They
Speaker 2: can just pay, tell me their fetishes and we'll have
Speaker 2: a session. But I don't consider those my my subs
Speaker 2: or my slaves. Like they're just kind of you know,
Speaker 2: they're horny, they hit me up, they want to have
Speaker 2: a second. They're not really serving me versus someone who
Speaker 2: approaches me and is like, I want to dedicate myself
Speaker 2: to you, goddess. I want all of my money going
Speaker 2: to you. I want you to make a budget for me.
Speaker 2: I want you to put me in chastity or like
Speaker 2: something like that where they're only paying me. They're only
Speaker 2: serving me, and they're like, you know, sending for like
Speaker 2: my breakfast or like buying gives off my wish lists
Speaker 2: like doing things more for me, right.
Speaker 1: Right, main okay, mainly dedicate it to you. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: makes that makes sense to me. So so I just
Speaker 1: want to make this clear. Right, Let's go back to
Speaker 1: my scenario. I have approached you, you have accepted me
Speaker 1: as a sub, and whatever, I will never likely unless
Speaker 1: I go to some event somewhere in high five you
Speaker 1: touch your hand, right, I want to make that clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends. I do session occasionally in person with subs.
Speaker 2: I have a you. It's less common for me now
Speaker 2: because I don't really need to do that. So if
Speaker 2: I meet up with a sub, it's someone who they've
Speaker 2: paid me for a while online. We've probably skyped a
Speaker 2: bunch of times or talked on the phone, and we've
Speaker 2: kind of gotten to know each other and I like
Speaker 2: want to meet up with them.
Speaker 1: Sure, So then I don't.
Speaker 2: Do like if someone just emails me wanting to book
Speaker 2: a session like an avenge or something, I don't do that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's why I was going to ask, did
Speaker 1: you start with doing actual physical domination or do you
Speaker 1: still do physical domination? It sounds like you might where
Speaker 1: you let me ask you, do you do physical domination
Speaker 1: as well?
Speaker 2: Yes, but I'm very picky. It's just what it is.
Speaker 1: I totally understand. I get that. Yes, yeah, we're not
Speaker 1: picking you to dominate us. You are picking people to
Speaker 1: dominate right, Yeah, it makes total sense to me. Did
Speaker 1: you find it? Did you start that way or did
Speaker 1: you start online?
Speaker 2: I started online and I live in LA now. I
Speaker 2: was in New York when I started, And I did
Speaker 2: meet up with people for like cash, meat, shopping trips
Speaker 2: things like that when I first got started, and then
Speaker 2: I started doing sessions a couple months in. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I've never like worked in a dungeon like, I've never
Speaker 2: really I don't consider myself like a pro dom.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, okay. I was going to ask if you
Speaker 1: get more out of hitting a guy's bank account for
Speaker 1: the day or hitting them with something real hard ideally both.
Speaker 2: Like cash meet with a ball busting session, so like
Speaker 2: meet them at the ATM, give me a thousand dollars
Speaker 2: and then I'll kick you in the balls.
Speaker 1: What has been requested of you that you have said No,
Speaker 1: I cannot do that because it would go against your brand.
Speaker 1: But maybe it just waded too deeply into the waters
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: There's been a bunch of things, I mean, like subs
Speaker 2: have it requested, like really intense impact play sessions with me,
Speaker 2: which like I don't really feel comfortable doing.
Speaker 1: Because can I impact play like whips.
Speaker 2: And floggers and depending like like light impact play. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like I I don't know, It's just not really
Speaker 2: my thing and I haven't been trained on it in
Speaker 2: a dungeon to where I would feel comfortable doing that
Speaker 2: to like the extent that some people have asked read
Speaker 2: into it. Sure, Yeah, there's really not much I feel
Speaker 2: like I have I've turned down. I do turn down
Speaker 2: a lot of in person sessions, but mostly just pickiness.
Speaker 2: I really love like public play like I really love
Speaker 2: like having someone like lick my shoe on the street,
Speaker 2: or like like I have a video that went like
Speaker 2: kind of viral on sex work Twitter that was like
Speaker 2: me sitting on someone on one of the streets in
Speaker 2: New York and he's like on his hands and knees,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm tired and just wanted to
Speaker 2: sit down waiting for my uber. And I walked by
Speaker 2: as I'm talking at a video and he's like, simp. Man,
Speaker 2: that's a fucking simp right there.
Speaker 1: And if he was allowed to talk, he probably would
Speaker 1: have said, I'm actually a sub, thank you, not quite
Speaker 1: a simp. I remember a video maybe last summer, maybe
Speaker 1: two years ago, of this this beautiful African American woman
Speaker 1: walking to middle aged white men on leashes around It
Speaker 1: might have yeah, oh okay, yeah yeah yeah, it might
Speaker 1: have been. But I just I was like, man, those
Speaker 1: guys are really into it, are the guys? You see.
Speaker 1: I have a theory on this. I think Barack Obama
Speaker 1: is a sub.
Speaker 2: You know, I really would not be surprised by most
Speaker 2: politicians to find that out.
Speaker 1: I think, I think, but it's not I know, it
Speaker 1: sounds like I got real political on that. Weell, let
Speaker 1: me talk you about Barack Obama. Now, I meant more young,
Speaker 1: virile men who are in positions of power. I think
Speaker 1: they want the reverse sometimes in the bedroom. Is that right?
Speaker 2: I think it's like definitely both. I think people when
Speaker 2: I tell them what I do, they either think that
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, I bet you get a lot of
Speaker 2: powerful men, or the other half of people are like,
Speaker 2: oh I bet they're all like weird losers, And honestly,
Speaker 2: they're both right. It's really a mix. Like it's like
Speaker 2: like some of the some of myselfs are CEOs or
Speaker 2: lawyers or doctors, and they're have really high stress jobs
Speaker 2: and they have a lot of employees and they're the
Speaker 2: boss all the time, and so they want the power exchange.
Speaker 2: Or guys that are really attractive and they've never been
Speaker 2: told no, they've never had a problem getting women, so
Speaker 2: they kind of want that.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's me. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: And then there's also guys like losers in their mom's
Speaker 2: basement that are like exactly what some people think would be.
Speaker 1: Okay, I found one that was a little closer to
Speaker 1: my personality than Okay, all right, I'm three on that one. Uh,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Though you can be a weird,
Speaker 1: dopey loser to be a sub for you, what I
Speaker 1: assume you can't be is fucking broke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't be broke, and you can't be rude,
Speaker 2: like rude fair, Yeah, like you have to be respectful
Speaker 2: like and yeah, I like because it is funny because
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, I would say a lot
Speaker 2: of my subs are like losers, Like they're like forty
Speaker 2: year old virgins, or like I've never kissed a girl
Speaker 2: in their life, or you know, like they are like
Speaker 2: losers by definition, but they're very respectful, like they're very sweet,
Speaker 2: they're constantly trying to do things to improve my life
Speaker 2: or whatever. And then like the other side of that
Speaker 2: coin is like the in cells on Reddit who are like,
Speaker 2: fuck these only fans of girls. Will we haven't pay
Speaker 2: for anything. There's free porn everywhere.
Speaker 1: Both it's those same guys who switch over to their
Speaker 1: alt accounts and see a video and go od fuck
Speaker 1: are better? It's like, oh, would you Yeah?
Speaker 2: Would you?
Speaker 1: I'm sure you would? Yeah? Uh So how do you
Speaker 1: weed out? Uh? I don't mean, well, this is your job.
Speaker 1: You're mean to guys. So it's okay to say this.
Speaker 1: How do you weed out the broke fucking losers?
Speaker 2: They kind of weed themselves out usually, Like I have
Speaker 2: a fifty dollars initial tribute, so just to talk basically,
Speaker 2: think of it as like a consultation fee, like for
Speaker 2: me to talk see if it could anything could work
Speaker 2: if someone tells me that they want to serve me,
Speaker 2: Like I said before, I do one off session, and
Speaker 2: so I'll do that and then they don't need to
Speaker 2: like it doesn't really matter how much money they make
Speaker 2: if they can just pay for that one session. If
Speaker 2: someone wants to serve me though, then I have a
Speaker 2: sub intake form basically on my website and I ask
Speaker 2: what is your monthly income and what are your monthly bills?
Speaker 2: And I do turn down subs that I'm like, you
Speaker 2: have one hundred dollars to spend a month Like this
Speaker 2: is not it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Right, you can you can message me twice yeah your shot?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know what, but go buy some
Speaker 1: of the videos. Okay, go buy something. No, that's what
Speaker 1: I say.
Speaker 2: I'm like a better I think you know you can't
Speaker 2: afford like a one on one relationship so just keep
Speaker 2: buying videos or keep saying subscribed and or you can
Speaker 2: maybe buy like one session or something.
Speaker 1: Sure. Uh, I have to say, the quality of your
Speaker 1: videos is top not shit really, the lighting, the coloring
Speaker 1: I love. I don't know that it's called this. What
Speaker 1: is the hypno effect on your voice on some of
Speaker 1: your videos? It's just an echo like a reaverb yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And is that meant as like a hypno
Speaker 1: thing or no? Yeah? So I definitely have interviewed someone
Speaker 1: who did hypno stuff.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love like the mind fuck hypno
Speaker 2: like brainwashing kind of is okay?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Please please talk as much as you can because they
Speaker 1: don't want to hear me, they want to hear you.
Speaker 1: What is the hypno stuff?
Speaker 2: Hypno stuff is kind of just what it sounds like.
Speaker 2: So like I make some videos that are like, well,
Speaker 2: technically we're not allowed to say hypno or brainwashing on
Speaker 2: any of adult sites, so you can't search it by that.
Speaker 2: It'll be under like mesmerize o like mind melt, mind
Speaker 2: fuck something like that, gotcha, And you know it can
Speaker 2: just be like I have some videos that are basically
Speaker 2: like meditational videos, and they're like really relaxing and me
Speaker 2: telling you to breathe in and out at like certain
Speaker 2: times and just like relaxing music and things like that
Speaker 2: to kind of get you more comfortable. And then I
Speaker 2: have ones that are like more like brainwashing type of things,
Speaker 2: like like you said, with the echo, maybe with like
Speaker 2: some spirals and just and that can be like you know,
Speaker 2: they have like feminization type of ones, or they have
Speaker 2: like findom ones, Like there's some really good ones even
Speaker 2: that I've seen on YouTube that are just like very trippy,
Speaker 2: with like lots of layered audio, and they're kind of
Speaker 2: like like you're you're nothing, You're an object for me.
Speaker 2: You're an object for me.
Speaker 1: Like so when designing something like that, like I mean
Speaker 1: literally just it's so funny. I'm sure people tune into
Speaker 1: the show to hear me be like, so do you
Speaker 1: like getting gang banged? And it's like no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Here's what I want to know. Is there a refrain
Speaker 1: of words in quote unquote mesmerized videos like are you repeating?
Speaker 1: Maybe not through the entire video, but do you come
Speaker 1: back to something? You are a loser. You are a loser,
Speaker 1: You're pathetic, your bubba, you are a loser. You are
Speaker 1: a loser.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so I might. I like to layer the
Speaker 2: audio a lot too, So I'll put like like layers
Speaker 2: of me, like whispering it and being like your like
Speaker 2: in the background, and maybe like moans as well, or
Speaker 2: like I really like to do like really overstimulating videos
Speaker 2: when it comes to the mind fucked mesmur So, I'll
Speaker 2: have like the screen flashing to a bunch of different
Speaker 2: things of me and different outfits, or like last year
Speaker 2: I did a bunch of clips that I was like
Speaker 2: cutting up my old clips and turning them into like
Speaker 2: a new like a clip of like a bunch of
Speaker 2: clips all caught up together. Yeah, so it is like
Speaker 2: in different outfits and like kind of saying the similar
Speaker 2: things though in all of them.
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. You get the eye level right too.
Speaker 1: That would be real creepy where I'm just staring at
Speaker 1: you and if everything switches but you're almost saying the
Speaker 1: same shit all, I would think I was all fucked
Speaker 1: up if that happened. Uh uh So do you have okay,
Speaker 1: do you have like editing history? Did you take any
Speaker 1: classes on and did you do anything or did you
Speaker 1: just did it because you sawid and you decided this
Speaker 1: was gonna be your career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've kind of just learned it as I've gone
Speaker 2: along with it. I started editing on with like iMovie,
Speaker 2: like the free one on Mac, and then now I
Speaker 2: use Final Cut Pro. But yeah, the first like year
Speaker 2: and a half or two years, I was just on iMovie.
Speaker 1: I I mean, I'm not joking. Maybe it's the equipment
Speaker 1: you use, the coloring on your videos, like there are
Speaker 1: a million of those. JOI this that like the just
Speaker 1: talking to the camera. I don't know if that has
Speaker 1: a specific name. I'm non POV okay, okay, but then
Speaker 1: POV would be for the other terms I would I
Speaker 1: guess I would say more. But your stuff, which is
Speaker 1: femdom POV is just it's like higher quality than a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff I've seen where it almost looks like
Speaker 1: movie quality stuff. And I'm just I'm a little stunned
Speaker 1: that you don't have an experience. I always tell new
Speaker 1: girls who are getting important, if they are going to
Speaker 1: go to college, get a marketing degree with a fucking
Speaker 1: minor in Adobe Photoshop, and yeah, Premiere, final cut whatever
Speaker 1: you're gonna use, right.
Speaker 2: I wish I knew Adobe.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's all I use. But it's a
Speaker 1: hassle sometimes. Yeah, marketing wise, how do you market yourself?
Speaker 1: Because it seems like you're in a very large but
Speaker 1: narrow niche, right, how do you market you? Do you just?
Speaker 1: Do you do stuff on fat life? Do you? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I would. I didn't even know how to
Speaker 1: market you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Honestly, I have the mindset that I can find
Speaker 2: subs everywhere, and I really have. Like I've met people
Speaker 2: at parties that ended up being my sub. I've met
Speaker 2: people on dating apps, like people have messaged me on
Speaker 2: my vanilla Instagram. I started on Twitter, and that's like,
Speaker 2: I guess my primary platform for marketing because I don't
Speaker 2: have a work Instagram. I have a TikTok too. TikTok's
Speaker 2: definitely good. I put some of my videos up on
Speaker 2: porn hub for free, so porn hub is definitely a
Speaker 2: good one.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: I don't really like bet life. I find that a
Speaker 2: lot of people on there don't want to pay.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Uh.
Speaker 2: Same with Reddit, like a lot of people on Reddit.
Speaker 2: I know it's well, I know it's now we've getting
Speaker 2: even harder with the NSFW things on Reddit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very much so.
Speaker 2: But I just a lot of the threads that I
Speaker 2: was seeing before specifically don't don't want anyone posting about
Speaker 2: findom in there. They don't want anyone posting like if
Speaker 2: you're trying to get money at all. They don't want
Speaker 2: like you posting payment links in there, Like you can
Speaker 2: post a photo of yourself, but you can't post any
Speaker 2: like links to anything. Just a lot of things like that.
Speaker 2: When I first got started, I honestly found a lot
Speaker 2: of people on dating apps and a couple like fetish
Speaker 2: dating apps. There was one I don't even know if
Speaker 2: it's still around. It was called like kin ku or
Speaker 2: something like that. Okay, it's like the worst spammiest app ever.
Speaker 2: I don't recommend it to anyone, right, but no.
Speaker 1: One believed you were a real person, this beautiful profile
Speaker 1: picture and it's just like get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah I I Yeah, A lot of people called me
Speaker 2: a bot, but I but it's fair because like I
Speaker 2: would say, like of a hundred messages that I got
Speaker 2: on that website, like ninety of them would be bots,
Speaker 2: of like the the like fake sugar daddy bots, you know,
Speaker 2: like the message baby like just I'll send you at Amazon,
Speaker 2: get card or whatever.
Speaker 1: You have to wonder if any of the bots are
Speaker 1: communicating with each other within that, I.
Speaker 2: Know, Like I talked to some of the subs that
Speaker 2: I did find on there, and they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was just getting like hot girl bots. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm getting these like old man bots.
Speaker 1: It's perfect. You said something in there that that raised
Speaker 1: a little bit of interest. What is the difference, And
Speaker 1: I know there is a vast difference, but what are
Speaker 1: the main differences between a finn dom and what is
Speaker 1: it a sugar baby looking for a sugar daddy?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, just the power dynamic. Honestly, I guess.
Speaker 1: It's a total reversal.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, in some ways, like financially it might be similar,
Speaker 2: but as far as like the power dynamic, yeah, because
Speaker 2: in a sugar baby sugar daddy relationship, the sugar daddy's
Speaker 2: in control and the sugar baby's there to like, you know,
Speaker 2: please appease them and please them. And yeah, it's reversed
Speaker 2: with this sub.
Speaker 1: With the sub sure, so it's only really the power
Speaker 1: dynamic though the money is still going from the guy
Speaker 1: to the girl. This and that makes sense. I read Okay,
Speaker 1: by the way, when you were explaining where everything is,
Speaker 1: I'm on your allmilinks dot com slash Valentina Fox. I've
Speaker 1: never seen a girl with a Bitcoin or an Ether address,
Speaker 1: and I fucking love that. I love not even because
Speaker 1: I'm some big crypto guy. In fact, I was buying
Speaker 1: bitcoin very early and I sold too late. No, I
Speaker 1: sold too early. But what I will say is so
Speaker 1: many girls don't realize women. I should say. I should
Speaker 1: really stop saying girls I apologize, uh, don't have all
Speaker 1: of their bases covered on all of their stuff, like
Speaker 1: your shit is all right here. I see some big
Speaker 1: name stars who don't even have a link tree or
Speaker 1: anything like that, and it's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Did you do research before coming into this or how
Speaker 1: much did you look or did you just jump in
Speaker 1: feet first and you were gorgeous and lucky and talented
Speaker 1: and everything worked out great.
Speaker 2: So I actually I was a little bit involved in
Speaker 2: the industry before I was a sex worker. I was
Speaker 2: a makeup artist in New York, so I worked for
Speaker 2: a few companies that worked with a lot of sex workers.
Speaker 2: So I didn't make up for a lot of sex
Speaker 2: workers before I was actually in the industry, So I
Speaker 2: kind of I saw a lot of people's pages beforehand.
Speaker 2: I definitely knew how to make good content because I
Speaker 2: have a lot of like experience on professional sets. But honestly,
Speaker 2: when I first started, my content was not good. I
Speaker 2: was using lots of like Snapchat filters and like iPhone quality.
Speaker 2: I guess I just I feel like I kind of
Speaker 2: learned as I went. I bought a lot of courses
Speaker 2: over the years, and like watched a lot of videos,
Speaker 2: and like, I've yeah, I've paid for so many different
Speaker 2: people's classes or wow, yeah, even people that I think,
Speaker 2: even people that are like newer in the industry. I'm
Speaker 2: just always curious, like to hear other people's tips and
Speaker 2: like what works for them.
Speaker 1: Well, the newer people in the industry could be bringing
Speaker 1: in a new trend as well, you know, like ten
Speaker 1: years ago or whatever it was when we got a
Speaker 1: big like milfinflusion because everyone was fucking their step cousin,
Speaker 1: neighbor dog not dog. Uh so, did you you never
Speaker 1: had a desire to be on the other side of it, though,
Speaker 1: to be performing in front of the camera with another
Speaker 1: performer or uh.
Speaker 2: No, not really, I don't know. I kind of got
Speaker 2: into the phenomen thing kind of naturally through someone that
Speaker 2: I was friends with, someone that I went to high
Speaker 2: school with actually was my first sub, so we were
Speaker 2: playing for like a year. I had like kind of
Speaker 2: seen it online. I knew what it was. I'd heard
Speaker 2: of it, and he's the one that like pushed me
Speaker 2: to get into like making a dumb Twitter and like
Speaker 2: being like more professional with it. But yeah, I never
Speaker 2: really considered poorn.
Speaker 1: Honestly, if you weren't doing this, would you be just
Speaker 1: a successful mat not just I apologize for saying that,
Speaker 1: but a successful makeup artist? Is that where you would
Speaker 1: have stayed or did you have other ambitions aside from that?
Speaker 2: Maybe? I don't know. I probably would have gotten into modeling.
Speaker 2: It's I had like started doing like some modeling, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. Honestly, I probably would have ended up
Speaker 2: on like OnlyFans or something similar if I hadn't found findom.
Speaker 1: Okay, cause you were just I mean, you were comfortable
Speaker 1: around the industry obviously, and you're gorgeous, so it's like,
Speaker 1: fucking why not make some money? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly, That's exactly how I felt when I was
Speaker 2: like doing other girls makeup and they were Most of
Speaker 2: the girls I met were like, yeah, you should totally
Speaker 2: get into it.
Speaker 1: And then you found a lane where you get to
Speaker 1: be mean to men and they pay you for it,
Speaker 1: which sounds like the coolest lane ever. Do you ever
Speaker 1: get bored with it? Though? No?
Speaker 2: It is interesting?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I think that's fair. What's coming up
Speaker 1: in the future for you? Uh? And let me ask you,
Speaker 1: how often do you put out videos? Do you put
Speaker 1: them out when they're done or you on a schedule.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be on a schedule.
Speaker 1: We're all trying to be on a fucking schedule. Yes.
Speaker 2: My goal is like three to four clips a week,
Speaker 2: so usually like three yeah, and I usually do Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday.
Speaker 2: It's been kind of off this year, but marking get back.
Speaker 1: But you have you have content out there, so go
Speaker 1: find it.
Speaker 2: I have like six hundred clips at this point.
Speaker 1: Oh is that all? Okay? Well, I should finish that
Speaker 1: over the weekend. I want valentinofox dot com if you
Speaker 1: do want to pick up her clips and loyal fans
Speaker 1: Valentina Fox right, Yes, okay, good, just.
Speaker 2: Just just checking loyal fans as well.
Speaker 1: And loyal fans. Yes. Wait did I say OnlyFans, No, you.
Speaker 2: Said yeah, loyal fans. I just got live stream on
Speaker 2: loyal fans.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I apologize, I hear it. Okay, okay. So
Speaker 1: in the future, what is coming next? Are we just
Speaker 1: going to continue growing this brand and doing Is there
Speaker 1: any other There's no other? Is there any other ambitions?
Speaker 1: Maybe bringing mentees under you to mentor them, or I
Speaker 1: don't know if.
Speaker 2: I would do like a mentor thing. I would love
Speaker 2: to have like my own studio, like my own film
Speaker 2: studio one day, or like my own like production company.
Speaker 1: Would you just want to shoot the type of content
Speaker 1: that you shoot here, or would you be open to
Speaker 1: trying to shoot other types of things?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would definitely be open to shooting like more
Speaker 2: vanilla porn too, or like other other types of porn,
Speaker 2: because yeah, I do. Just I love like set design
Speaker 2: and stuff, and I love like lighting and outfit planning,
Speaker 2: like I love everything that goes into like making a shoot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I saw a really interesting clip on your
Speaker 1: Twitter account. As I try and find it, I can't
Speaker 1: find it. Fuck it uh where I'm positive it's happened
Speaker 1: a million times before. But I love the concept of
Speaker 1: this and I'd never actually seen it before, and love
Speaker 1: the video wasn't necessarily my preference. But what I will
Speaker 1: say is I love the concept. You had a video
Speaker 1: of you in the center. I don't believe it was yours.
Speaker 1: I think you retweeted it. You had a video of
Speaker 1: you in the center and you were talking and there
Speaker 1: was a trans woman on either side of you who
Speaker 1: was stroking her giant woman dick and uh. I love
Speaker 1: the idea of a mashup of a non nude along
Speaker 1: with some kind of nude. Like again, not for your art,
Speaker 1: but if I saw a girl getting gang banged and
Speaker 1: then she was dirty talking into the screen next to me,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the next evolution. As our brain
Speaker 1: stopped being able to process one thing at a time
Speaker 1: and have the requirement to process six, seven or eight
Speaker 1: things at a time, I'm gonna need at least four
Speaker 1: screens of porn like I do for football every Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and honestly and I do. I really
Speaker 2: I have a collab I need to. I've been working
Speaker 2: on a collab with a porn star, so it would
Speaker 2: be something similar to that. But I really would like
Speaker 2: to do a lot more collabs with porn stars and
Speaker 2: stuff and making content like that, especially because gooning has
Speaker 2: gotten so big for femnom stuff and for normal porn,
Speaker 2: Like that's like the main like crossover. And I do
Speaker 2: a lot of videos about porn addiction, so it just
Speaker 2: kind of fits perfect.
Speaker 1: Are you mocking for porn addiction or are you Okay? Okay,
Speaker 1: I saw one of your videos, and this is how
Speaker 1: twisted my brain gets, and I have a personal story
Speaker 1: to it, so I I'm allowed to make this joke.
Speaker 1: But I saw one of your videos on many VIDs
Speaker 1: titled fuck recovery.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For half a second though, I was like, is she
Speaker 1: telling people to go drink again if they're alcohol Like,
Speaker 1: my brain just went nuts. I thought it was like, hey,
Speaker 1: fuck recovery, Get out there, hit the bottle. Yeah, jump
Speaker 1: behind the wheel your car. See what happens baby, roll
Speaker 1: the dice. I understand it was means a different thing.
Speaker 1: What does fuck recovery mean?
Speaker 2: Fuck recovery means fuck trying to quit your porn addiction?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, so that's okay. So you were
Speaker 1: you were the problem then when all these conservatives and
Speaker 1: Christians are on my Twitter and they're going, like, the
Speaker 1: First Amendments so important, get rid of porn.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to make a political but let's be honest.
Speaker 1: There's that's what I see on my Twitter. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: First Amendments the most important thing in the world. Also,
Speaker 1: get rid of poor and this artis shouldn't be able
Speaker 1: to express yourself in any way whatsoever?
Speaker 2: Great, Yeah, exactly, But yeah, I mean I make videos
Speaker 2: like making fun of that too. Like I have videos
Speaker 2: like aimed at the in cells and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: women like mirror everything that's wrong with society.
Speaker 1: You know what, honestly, And I'll tell you this and
Speaker 1: we we'll wrap on this one more question for you.
Speaker 1: But I read it years ago when I do my
Speaker 1: comedy show as well as the show. If you want
Speaker 1: to check that out people, it's in the episode description.
Speaker 1: But we got two in cells to come on. I said,
Speaker 1: you don't have to show your face, you can just
Speaker 1: talk to us. We'll just have a normal conversation. And
Speaker 1: that sounds hilarious. And it is a comedy show. Do
Speaker 1: you know what happened at the end of it, those
Speaker 1: guys became somewhat huge humanized and I felt for them
Speaker 1: and it felt like they just had anxiety problems, and
Speaker 1: they tried to troll right off the bat. The guys like, oh,
Speaker 1: wall and you just have people like me, and my
Speaker 1: co host shut that down and say, hey, cut the shit, bud,
Speaker 1: let's talk about real stuff. So I assume though a
Speaker 1: lot of the guys who are buying the in cell stuff,
Speaker 1: some of them are probably in cells who you are insulting,
Speaker 1: and they secretly kind of like it, think it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have actually a bunch of content aimed in cells.
Speaker 2: I have like it's not even a real category yet,
Speaker 2: I would like to create this category, but called hate stroking.
Speaker 2: So kind of like the clip I just said, like, oh,
Speaker 2: you hate me so much, you hate girls like me,
Speaker 2: everything that's wrong with society, Life's not fair, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But here you are watching my videos buying another one.
Speaker 2: You can't stop. You always come back.
Speaker 1: Last question for you, h are a female supremacist. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's risky in twenty twenty four attaching supremacist at all
Speaker 1: to your name, So I'm going to give you credit
Speaker 1: for taking a chance on that one. Now, does that
Speaker 1: mean you hate men?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, you just think every woman on the face of
Speaker 1: the earth ever born is better than even the best man.
Speaker 2: No, okay, I would say just generally, I think women
Speaker 2: are better better leaders. I don't hate men, though I'm
Speaker 2: not a misandrist. I think that men have their place,
Speaker 2: like I think my subs that are good boys are great,
Speaker 2: and I think that men that are respectful are great.
Speaker 2: I just think that the world works better when women
Speaker 2: are in charge.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, men read carry in the groceries. You're good
Speaker 1: to go. I want valentinofox dot com on Loyal Fans,
Speaker 1: Valentina Fox. I need Valncealentina dot com. Guys, go to
Speaker 1: the episode description. I'm going to have links to everything.
Speaker 1: If you're some fucking crypto nerd, which I would have
Speaker 1: been if I had held it long enough. But I
Speaker 1: fucking sold to buy a Honda Civic, so fuck me.
Speaker 1: It's I was about, you know what bitcoin price is.
Speaker 1: I was buying it at one hundred and forty dollars each.
Speaker 1: It's around seventy thousand each right now. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hang up and tie in noose. Uh So, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: my guest tonight, Valentina Fox, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on with me. Valentine, I really appreciate the time
Speaker 1: of course,