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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out going deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Matt. I've got a great show planned

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<v Speaker 1>for you tonight. You'll know my next guest from her

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<v Speaker 1>appearances on such websites as many VIDs and clips for sale,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can find links to all of our social

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<v Speaker 1>media in the episode description below as always, or you

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<v Speaker 1>can go to ined Valentina dot com for links to everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also want you to check out I want

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<v Speaker 1>Valentinafox dot com as well as Valentina Fox on loyal Fans,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, join me in welcoming the very lovely

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<v Speaker 1>Valentina Fox. Valentina. How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'm good. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good? So Valentina. Look, I'm a little embarrassed to

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<v Speaker 1>say this, but I'm mixed up this booking, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the show, you're you're either one of two

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<v Speaker 1>types of guests. Can I try and figure out which

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<v Speaker 1>guest you are?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Go for it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Okay? Are you okay? Are you the girl that's

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<v Speaker 1>like cock hungry, gangbang loving, uber submissive lives to like

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<v Speaker 1>serve and please. Man would rather drown and abukaki than

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<v Speaker 1>die peacefully in your bed and surrounded by loved ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you that person?

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<v Speaker 2>Or no, no, that's not me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So then you're the influential fendom and fetish model

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<v Speaker 1>whose world famous femdom video strike fear and pump blood

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<v Speaker 1>into the erections of all of your loyal subordinates. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds more okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you, Thank you for playing along, Valentino Fox,

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<v Speaker 1>I admitted this beforehand. I'd like to tell the audience too.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a lot of these interviews at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>and so many women will say, oh, and I fendom too, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I do fendom stuff too, And I interview pros, I

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<v Speaker 1>interview some performers who are still less than a thousand followers, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I know what fin dooming is

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<v Speaker 1>from the outside, as a guy who's married a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>everything else, not necessarily looking to the outside for anything

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<v Speaker 1>else except to watch a ton of porn while she's sleeping.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fun. A findom to me is I text you

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<v Speaker 1>and go, Valentina, how much can I send you right now?

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<v Speaker 1>And you go one hundred? And I go, would two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred be okay? And you say no one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>I go okay, one hundred, send it over. What is

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<v Speaker 1>a findom? Walk me through what an actual I have

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<v Speaker 1>a real live findom, not someone who says they do fendom.

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<v Speaker 1>What is a what is finndomi?

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<v Speaker 2>So finndom stands for a financial domination. It's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a kink within the femdom fetish. So femdom is female domination.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically the fetish of having your money or finance

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<v Speaker 2>controlled by a woman. This looks a lot of different

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<v Speaker 2>ways though, for a lot of different people, And honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>there are very few submissives who are truly just into findom,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's why you know, I like, I think most

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<v Speaker 2>sex workers also do kind of interact with finn subs

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<v Speaker 2>or pay pigs or whatever they want to call themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know a lot of strippers or porn stars

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<v Speaker 2>or just only fans girls like you said that get oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to serve you. I want to serve you

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<v Speaker 2>those kind of messages as well. So it can like range,

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<v Speaker 2>like it can range from like complete control over a

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<v Speaker 2>sub's life to like setting their allowance for groceries, like

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<v Speaker 2>taking basically everything that isn't essential money and like building

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<v Speaker 2>them a really strict budget. So it can be that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of fine financial control, or I can go all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to like a financial ruin fetish of like

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<v Speaker 2>subs want to completely empty out their bank account. Yeah so,

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<v Speaker 2>and it can be and but a lot of the times, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it has gotten a little confused now because

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<v Speaker 2>so many people are trying to do it, and some

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<v Speaker 2>people think that it's just expensive femdom basically like doing

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<v Speaker 2>a femdom session, but just charging a lot more from

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<v Speaker 2>it for it. So I guess some people would consider

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<v Speaker 2>it that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I said, it kind of varies.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a red line? Maybe you don't, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. I will always say this, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's over eighteen and there's no dogs in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a shit what anyone does with anyone anytime. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>is do you have any kind of line or have

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<v Speaker 1>you crossed over from finndom into finn ruin or financial ruin?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you done that on anyone in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely have financially ruined a couple of people. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to say though, honestly, how many actually, because a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of subs it is just a fantasy. And the

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<v Speaker 2>ones who are smart enough to understand that it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a fantasy, a lot of them will set up like

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<v Speaker 2>another bank account, and they'll have like their like allowance

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<v Speaker 2>basically for findom in that bank account, and they'll be

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<v Speaker 2>sending me screenshots of that bank account saying I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to take everything from me, and then maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>zero that account. But that's not actually.

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<v Speaker 1>All of it. It's not. Yeah, they're not going into

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<v Speaker 1>foreclosure next month because of that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have also ruined themselves financially without me even

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<v Speaker 2>being aware of it, and they just weren't communicating where

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<v Speaker 2>they were at financially, and then like four or five

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<v Speaker 2>months into our sub relationship, they're like, hey, I actually

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<v Speaker 2>have to stop. I can't pay my bills and blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah, I'm behind on Brent. So yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>not they don't all communicate well to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, so let me ask, then, are you your

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<v Speaker 1>own personality, your own set of morals, your own all

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<v Speaker 1>of that? Are you okay ruining a guy knowing you're

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<v Speaker 1>ruining a guy, actually ruining a guy? Taking the fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>out no separate bank account you're ruining a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it depends. I have one sub that I

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<v Speaker 2>would say is pretty ruined. But I mean he lives

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<v Speaker 2>with his mom, so like it's not like he's like

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<v Speaker 2>homeless because of it. You know, he just can't move

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<v Speaker 2>out of his mom's house, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like many of my listeners, that's not a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I mean to an extent, like I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>have had subs that were clearly like using me as

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<v Speaker 2>a form of self harm, and that made me uncomfortable. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>so if it kind of gets like too like self hating,

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<v Speaker 2>then I usually draw the line or we'll just stop responding.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of the videos that I make and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the subs that I have are really

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<v Speaker 2>into the ruination fantasy. Like I literally just looked over

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<v Speaker 2>and got a text on my laptop as I was

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<v Speaker 2>saying that that said please ruin me from one of

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<v Speaker 2>my sobs, so.

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<v Speaker 1>So oh shit, I was so fascinated by I literally

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<v Speaker 1>lost my question. So is okay, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that quite, but is there ever any so

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<v Speaker 1>if i'm your, if you're my fendom, i'm your what

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<v Speaker 1>is the term? Would I be your slave? Would I

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<v Speaker 1>be your servant. Do you have a specific one? Are

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<v Speaker 1>there levels to it? Like? Can I work my way

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<v Speaker 1>up to a slave from a servant?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, like a sub is kind of what

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<v Speaker 2>I call like everyone, but like a slave is someone

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<v Speaker 2>who serves me.

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<v Speaker 1>And serves you. Would I mean, how is that is

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<v Speaker 1>that any different? I mean they're specifically sending stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>you or you requesting stuff from them, or so.

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<v Speaker 2>I am known for my clips, so a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of my money that I make I make

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<v Speaker 2>through my clip sales. So some people will just engage

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<v Speaker 2>with me that way, and they'll just buy my clips

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<v Speaker 2>and then they'll kind of pretend to have a session

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<v Speaker 2>with me through my clips. The next step would be

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<v Speaker 2>like contacting me, paying to talk to me, doing a

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<v Speaker 2>Skype session or phone call or something like that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I will like Skype session, do like a chat, video session,

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<v Speaker 2>video response session. I mean with pretty much anyone who's

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<v Speaker 2>respectful and who pays for it. They don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>actually serve me or have any relationship with me. They

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<v Speaker 2>can just pay, tell me their fetishes and we'll have

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<v Speaker 2>a session. But I don't consider those my my subs

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<v Speaker 2>or my slaves. Like they're just kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're horny, they hit me up, they want to have

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<v Speaker 2>a second. They're not really serving me versus someone who

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<v Speaker 2>approaches me and is like, I want to dedicate myself

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<v Speaker 2>to you, goddess. I want all of my money going

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<v Speaker 2>to you. I want you to make a budget for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to put me in chastity or like

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<v Speaker 2>something like that where they're only paying me. They're only

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<v Speaker 2>serving me, and they're like, you know, sending for like

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<v Speaker 2>my breakfast or like buying gives off my wish lists

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<v Speaker 2>like doing things more for me, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, main okay, mainly dedicate it to you. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>makes that makes sense to me. So so I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to make this clear. Right, Let's go back to

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<v Speaker 1>my scenario. I have approached you, you have accepted me

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<v Speaker 1>as a sub, and whatever, I will never likely unless

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<v Speaker 1>I go to some event somewhere in high five you

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<v Speaker 1>touch your hand, right, I want to make that clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it depends. I do session occasionally in person with subs.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a you. It's less common for me now

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't really need to do that. So if

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<v Speaker 2>I meet up with a sub, it's someone who they've

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<v Speaker 2>paid me for a while online. We've probably skyped a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of times or talked on the phone, and we've

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<v Speaker 2>kind of gotten to know each other and I like

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<v Speaker 2>want to meet up with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, So then I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Do like if someone just emails me wanting to book

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<v Speaker 2>a session like an avenge or something, I don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that's why I was going to ask, did

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<v Speaker 1>you start with doing actual physical domination or do you

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<v Speaker 1>still do physical domination? It sounds like you might where

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<v Speaker 1>you let me ask you, do you do physical domination

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<v Speaker 1>as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but I'm very picky. It's just what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally understand. I get that. Yes, yeah, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>picking you to dominate us. You are picking people to

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<v Speaker 1>dominate right, Yeah, it makes total sense to me. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you find it? Did you start that way or did

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<v Speaker 1>you start online?

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<v Speaker 2>I started online and I live in LA now. I

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<v Speaker 2>was in New York when I started, And I did

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<v Speaker 2>meet up with people for like cash, meat, shopping trips

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<v Speaker 2>things like that when I first got started, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I started doing sessions a couple months in. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never like worked in a dungeon like, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>really I don't consider myself like a pro dom.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, okay. I was going to ask if you

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<v Speaker 1>get more out of hitting a guy's bank account for

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<v Speaker 1>the day or hitting them with something real hard ideally both.

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<v Speaker 2>Like cash meet with a ball busting session, so like

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<v Speaker 2>meet them at the ATM, give me a thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'll kick you in the balls.

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<v Speaker 1>What has been requested of you that you have said No,

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot do that because it would go against your brand.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe it just waded too deeply into the waters

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<v Speaker 1>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been a bunch of things, I mean, like subs

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<v Speaker 2>have it requested, like really intense impact play sessions with me,

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<v Speaker 2>which like I don't really feel comfortable doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because can I impact play like whips.

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<v Speaker 2>And floggers and depending like like light impact play. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I I don't know, It's just not really

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<v Speaker 2>a dungeon to where I would feel comfortable doing that

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<v Speaker 2>to like the extent that some people have asked read

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<v Speaker 2>into it. Sure, Yeah, there's really not much I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I have I've turned down. I do turn down

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of in person sessions, but mostly just pickiness.

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<v Speaker 2>I really love like public play like I really love

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<v Speaker 2>like having someone like lick my shoe on the street,

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<v Speaker 2>or like like I have a video that went like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of viral on sex work Twitter that was like

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<v Speaker 2>me sitting on someone on one of the streets in

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<v Speaker 2>New York and he's like on his hands and knees,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I'm tired and just wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>sit down waiting for my uber. And I walked by

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm talking at a video and he's like, simp. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a fucking simp right there.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he was allowed to talk, he probably would

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<v Speaker 1>have said, I'm actually a sub, thank you, not quite

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<v Speaker 1>a simp. I remember a video maybe last summer, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago, of this this beautiful African American woman

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<v Speaker 1>walking to middle aged white men on leashes around It

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<v Speaker 1>might have yeah, oh okay, yeah yeah yeah, it might

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<v Speaker 1>have been. But I just I was like, man, those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are really into it, are the guys? You see.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a theory on this. I think Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 1>is a sub.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I really would not be surprised by most

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<v Speaker 2>politicians to find that out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I think, but it's not I know, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like I got real political on that. Weell, let

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<v Speaker 1>me talk you about Barack Obama. Now, I meant more young,

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<v Speaker 1>virile men who are in positions of power. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they want the reverse sometimes in the bedroom. Is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like definitely both. I think people when

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<v Speaker 2>I tell them what I do, they either think that

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh, I bet you get a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>powerful men, or the other half of people are like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh I bet they're all like weird losers, And honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>they're both right. It's really a mix. Like it's like

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<v Speaker 2>like some of the some of myselfs are CEOs or

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers or doctors, and they're have really high stress jobs

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<v Speaker 2>and they have a lot of employees and they're the

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<v Speaker 2>boss all the time, and so they want the power exchange.

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<v Speaker 2>Or guys that are really attractive and they've never been

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<v Speaker 2>told no, they've never had a problem getting women, so

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of want that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's me. Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's also guys like losers in their mom's

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<v Speaker 2>basement that are like exactly what some people think would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I found one that was a little closer to

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<v Speaker 1>my personality than Okay, all right, I'm three on that one. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask you this. Though you can be a weird,

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<v Speaker 1>dopey loser to be a sub for you, what I

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<v Speaker 1>assume you can't be is fucking broke.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can't be broke, and you can't be rude,

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<v Speaker 2>like rude fair, Yeah, like you have to be respectful

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<v Speaker 2>like and yeah, I like because it is funny because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of you know, I would say a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of my subs are like losers, Like they're like forty

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<v Speaker 2>year old virgins, or like I've never kissed a girl

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<v Speaker 2>in their life, or you know, like they are like

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<v Speaker 2>losers by definition, but they're very respectful, like they're very sweet,

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<v Speaker 2>they're constantly trying to do things to improve my life

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. And then like the other side of that

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<v Speaker 2>coin is like the in cells on Reddit who are like,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck these only fans of girls. Will we haven't pay

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<v Speaker 2>for anything. There's free porn everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Both it's those same guys who switch over to their

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<v Speaker 1>alt accounts and see a video and go od fuck

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<v Speaker 1>are better? It's like, oh, would you Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you would? Yeah? Uh So how do you

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<v Speaker 1>weed out? Uh? I don't mean, well, this is your job.

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<v Speaker 1>You're mean to guys. So it's okay to say this.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you weed out the broke fucking losers?

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of weed themselves out usually, Like I have

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<v Speaker 2>a fifty dollars initial tribute, so just to talk basically,

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<v Speaker 2>think of it as like a consultation fee, like for

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<v Speaker 2>me to talk see if it could anything could work

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<v Speaker 2>if someone tells me that they want to serve me,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said before, I do one off session, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll do that and then they don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>like it doesn't really matter how much money they make

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<v Speaker 2>if they can just pay for that one session. If

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<v Speaker 2>someone wants to serve me though, then I have a

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<v Speaker 2>sub intake form basically on my website and I ask

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<v Speaker 2>what is your monthly income and what are your monthly bills?

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<v Speaker 2>And I do turn down subs that I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 2>have one hundred dollars to spend a month Like this

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<v Speaker 2>is not it's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you can you can message me twice yeah your shot?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, you know what, but go buy some

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<v Speaker 1>of the videos. Okay, go buy something. No, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I say.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like a better I think you know you can't

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<v Speaker 2>afford like a one on one relationship so just keep

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<v Speaker 2>buying videos or keep saying subscribed and or you can

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<v Speaker 2>maybe buy like one session or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure. Uh, I have to say, the quality of your

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<v Speaker 1>videos is top not shit really, the lighting, the coloring

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<v Speaker 1>I love. I don't know that it's called this. What

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<v Speaker 1>is the hypno effect on your voice on some of

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<v Speaker 1>your videos? It's just an echo like a reaverb yeah

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah. And is that meant as like a hypno

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<v Speaker 1>thing or no? Yeah? So I definitely have interviewed someone

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<v Speaker 1>who did hypno stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love like the mind fuck hypno

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<v Speaker 2>like brainwashing kind of is okay?

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<v Speaker 1>What is that?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Please please talk as much as you can because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear me, they want to hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the hypno stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Hypno stuff is kind of just what it sounds like.

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<v Speaker 2>So like I make some videos that are like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>technically we're not allowed to say hypno or brainwashing on

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<v Speaker 2>any of adult sites, so you can't search it by that.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be under like mesmerize o like mind melt, mind

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<v Speaker 2>fuck something like that, gotcha, And you know it can

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<v Speaker 2>just be like I have some videos that are basically

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<v Speaker 2>like meditational videos, and they're like really relaxing and me

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<v Speaker 2>telling you to breathe in and out at like certain

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<v Speaker 2>times and just like relaxing music and things like that

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of get you more comfortable. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>have ones that are like more like brainwashing type of things,

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<v Speaker 2>like like you said, with the echo, maybe with like

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<v Speaker 2>some spirals and just and that can be like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they have like feminization type of ones, or they have

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<v Speaker 2>like findom ones, Like there's some really good ones even

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<v Speaker 2>that I've seen on YouTube that are just like very trippy,

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<v Speaker 2>with like lots of layered audio, and they're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like like you're you're nothing, You're an object for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're an object for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like so when designing something like that, like I mean

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<v Speaker 1>literally just it's so funny. I'm sure people tune into

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<v Speaker 1>the show to hear me be like, so do you

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<v Speaker 1>like getting gang banged? And it's like no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I want to know. Is there a refrain

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<v Speaker 1>of words in quote unquote mesmerized videos like are you repeating?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not through the entire video, but do you come

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<v Speaker 1>back to something? You are a loser. You are a loser,

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<v Speaker 1>You're pathetic, your bubba, you are a loser. You are

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<v Speaker 1>a loser.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, so I might. I like to layer the

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<v Speaker 2>audio a lot too, So I'll put like like layers

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<v Speaker 2>of me, like whispering it and being like your like

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<v Speaker 2>in the background, and maybe like moans as well, or

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<v Speaker 2>like I really like to do like really overstimulating videos

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the mind fucked mesmur So, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>have like the screen flashing to a bunch of different

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<v Speaker 2>things of me and different outfits, or like last year

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<v Speaker 2>I did a bunch of clips that I was like

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<v Speaker 2>cutting up my old clips and turning them into like

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<v Speaker 2>a new like a clip of like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>clips all caught up together. Yeah, so it is like

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<v Speaker 2>in different outfits and like kind of saying the similar

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<v Speaker 2>things though in all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's interesting. You get the eye level right too.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be real creepy where I'm just staring at

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<v Speaker 1>you and if everything switches but you're almost saying the

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<v Speaker 1>same shit all, I would think I was all fucked

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<v Speaker 1>up if that happened. Uh uh So do you have okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have like editing history? Did you take any

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<v Speaker 1>classes on and did you do anything or did you

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<v Speaker 1>just did it because you sawid and you decided this

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be your career.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've kind of just learned it as I've gone

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<v Speaker 2>along with it. I started editing on with like iMovie,

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<v Speaker 2>like the free one on Mac, and then now I

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<v Speaker 2>use Final Cut Pro. But yeah, the first like year

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<v Speaker 2>and a half or two years, I was just on iMovie.

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<v Speaker 1>I I mean, I'm not joking. Maybe it's the equipment

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<v Speaker 1>you use, the coloring on your videos, like there are

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<v Speaker 1>a million of those. JOI this that like the just

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<v Speaker 1>talking to the camera. I don't know if that has

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<v Speaker 1>a specific name. I'm non POV okay, okay, but then

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<v Speaker 1>POV would be for the other terms I would I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I would say more. But your stuff, which is

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<v Speaker 1>femdom POV is just it's like higher quality than a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff I've seen where it almost looks like

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<v Speaker 1>movie quality stuff. And I'm just I'm a little stunned

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't have an experience. I always tell new

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<v Speaker 1>girls who are getting important, if they are going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to college, get a marketing degree with a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>minor in Adobe Photoshop, and yeah, Premiere, final cut whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna use, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I knew Adobe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's it's all I use. But it's a

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<v Speaker 1>hassle sometimes. Yeah, marketing wise, how do you market yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it seems like you're in a very large but

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<v Speaker 1>narrow niche, right, how do you market you? Do you just?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do stuff on fat life? Do you? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I would. I didn't even know how to

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<v Speaker 1>market you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Honestly, I have the mindset that I can find

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<v Speaker 2>subs everywhere, and I really have. Like I've met people

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<v Speaker 2>at parties that ended up being my sub. I've met

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<v Speaker 2>people on dating apps, like people have messaged me on

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<v Speaker 2>my vanilla Instagram. I started on Twitter, and that's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess my primary platform for marketing because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a work Instagram. I have a TikTok too. TikTok's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely good. I put some of my videos up on

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<v Speaker 2>porn hub for free, so porn hub is definitely a

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<v Speaker 2>good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really like bet life. I find that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people on there don't want to pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, Uh.

424
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<v Speaker 2>Same with Reddit, like a lot of people on Reddit.

425
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<v Speaker 2>I know it's well, I know it's now we've getting

426
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<v Speaker 2>even harder with the NSFW things on Reddit.

427
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very much so.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just a lot of the threads that I

429
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<v Speaker 2>was seeing before specifically don't don't want anyone posting about

430
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<v Speaker 2>findom in there. They don't want anyone posting like if

431
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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to get money at all. They don't want

432
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<v Speaker 2>like you posting payment links in there, Like you can

433
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<v Speaker 2>post a photo of yourself, but you can't post any

434
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<v Speaker 2>like links to anything. Just a lot of things like that.

435
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<v Speaker 2>When I first got started, I honestly found a lot

436
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<v Speaker 2>of people on dating apps and a couple like fetish

437
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<v Speaker 2>dating apps. There was one I don't even know if

438
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<v Speaker 2>it's still around. It was called like kin ku or

439
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<v Speaker 2>something like that. Okay, it's like the worst spammiest app ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't recommend it to anyone, right, but no.

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<v Speaker 1>One believed you were a real person, this beautiful profile

442
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<v Speaker 1>picture and it's just like get the fuck out of here.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I I Yeah, A lot of people called me

444
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<v Speaker 2>a bot, but I but it's fair because like I

445
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<v Speaker 2>would say, like of a hundred messages that I got

446
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<v Speaker 2>on that website, like ninety of them would be bots,

447
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<v Speaker 2>of like the the like fake sugar daddy bots, you know,

448
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<v Speaker 2>like the message baby like just I'll send you at Amazon,

449
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<v Speaker 2>get card or whatever.

450
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<v Speaker 1>You have to wonder if any of the bots are

451
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<v Speaker 1>communicating with each other within that, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Like I talked to some of the subs that

453
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<v Speaker 2>I did find on there, and they're like, oh, yeah,

454
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<v Speaker 2>I was just getting like hot girl bots. I'm like,

455
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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting these like old man bots.

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<v Speaker 1>It's perfect. You said something in there that that raised

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of interest. What is the difference, And

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<v Speaker 1>I know there is a vast difference, but what are

459
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<v Speaker 1>the main differences between a finn dom and what is

460
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<v Speaker 1>it a sugar baby looking for a sugar daddy?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, just the power dynamic. Honestly, I guess.

462
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<v Speaker 1>It's a total reversal.

463
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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, in some ways, like financially it might be similar,

464
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<v Speaker 2>but as far as like the power dynamic, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>in a sugar baby sugar daddy relationship, the sugar daddy's

466
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<v Speaker 2>in control and the sugar baby's there to like, you know,

467
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<v Speaker 2>please appease them and please them. And yeah, it's reversed

468
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<v Speaker 2>with this sub.

469
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<v Speaker 1>With the sub sure, so it's only really the power

470
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<v Speaker 1>dynamic though the money is still going from the guy

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<v Speaker 1>to the girl. This and that makes sense. I read Okay,

472
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<v Speaker 1>by the way, when you were explaining where everything is,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on your allmilinks dot com slash Valentina Fox. I've

474
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<v Speaker 1>never seen a girl with a Bitcoin or an Ether address,

475
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<v Speaker 1>and I fucking love that. I love not even because

476
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<v Speaker 1>I'm some big crypto guy. In fact, I was buying

477
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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin very early and I sold too late. No, I

478
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<v Speaker 1>sold too early. But what I will say is so

479
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<v Speaker 1>many girls don't realize women. I should say. I should

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<v Speaker 1>really stop saying girls I apologize, uh, don't have all

481
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<v Speaker 1>of their bases covered on all of their stuff, like

482
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<v Speaker 1>your shit is all right here. I see some big

483
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<v Speaker 1>name stars who don't even have a link tree or

484
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<v Speaker 1>anything like that, and it's like, what are you doing?

485
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<v Speaker 1>Did you do research before coming into this or how

486
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<v Speaker 1>much did you look or did you just jump in

487
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<v Speaker 1>feet first and you were gorgeous and lucky and talented

488
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<v Speaker 1>and everything worked out great.

489
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<v Speaker 2>So I actually I was a little bit involved in

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<v Speaker 2>the industry before I was a sex worker. I was

491
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<v Speaker 2>a makeup artist in New York, so I worked for

492
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<v Speaker 2>a few companies that worked with a lot of sex workers.

493
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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't make up for a lot of sex

494
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<v Speaker 2>workers before I was actually in the industry, So I

495
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:19.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of I saw a lot of people's pages beforehand.

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00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:23.839
<v Speaker 2>I definitely knew how to make good content because I

497
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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of like experience on professional sets. But honestly,

498
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<v Speaker 2>when I first started, my content was not good. I

499
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<v Speaker 2>was using lots of like Snapchat filters and like iPhone quality.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I just I feel like I kind of

501
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<v Speaker 2>learned as I went. I bought a lot of courses

502
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<v Speaker 2>over the years, and like watched a lot of videos,

503
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<v Speaker 2>and like, I've yeah, I've paid for so many different

504
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:57.799
<v Speaker 2>people's classes or wow, yeah, even people that I think,

505
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>even people that are like newer in the industry. I'm

506
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<v Speaker 2>just always curious, like to hear other people's tips and

507
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<v Speaker 2>like what works for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the newer people in the industry could be bringing

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<v Speaker 1>in a new trend as well, you know, like ten

510
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<v Speaker 1>years ago or whatever it was when we got a

511
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<v Speaker 1>big like milfinflusion because everyone was fucking their step cousin,

512
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<v Speaker 1>neighbor dog not dog. Uh so, did you you never

513
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<v Speaker 1>had a desire to be on the other side of it, though,

514
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<v Speaker 1>to be performing in front of the camera with another

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<v Speaker 1>performer or uh.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not really, I don't know. I kind of got

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<v Speaker 2>into the phenomen thing kind of naturally through someone that

518
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<v Speaker 2>I was friends with, someone that I went to high

519
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.559
<v Speaker 2>school with actually was my first sub, so we were

520
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.359
<v Speaker 2>playing for like a year. I had like kind of

521
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:57.720
<v Speaker 2>seen it online. I knew what it was. I'd heard

522
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 2>of it, and he's the one that like pushed me

523
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:07.000
<v Speaker 2>to get into like making a dumb Twitter and like

524
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:10.799
<v Speaker 2>being like more professional with it. But yeah, I never

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<v Speaker 2>really considered poorn.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, if you weren't doing this, would you be just

527
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<v Speaker 1>a successful mat not just I apologize for saying that,

528
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 1>but a successful makeup artist? Is that where you would

529
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<v Speaker 1>have stayed or did you have other ambitions aside from that?

530
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe? I don't know. I probably would have gotten into modeling.

531
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<v Speaker 2>It's I had like started doing like some modeling, but

532
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Honestly, I probably would have ended up

533
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<v Speaker 2>on like OnlyFans or something similar if I hadn't found findom.

534
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, cause you were just I mean, you were comfortable

535
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.519
<v Speaker 1>around the industry obviously, and you're gorgeous, so it's like,

536
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>fucking why not make some money? Right?

537
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Exactly, That's exactly how I felt when I was

538
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.279
<v Speaker 2>like doing other girls makeup and they were Most of

539
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:55.160
<v Speaker 2>the girls I met were like, yeah, you should totally

540
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<v Speaker 2>get into it.

541
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<v Speaker 1>And then you found a lane where you get to

542
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<v Speaker 1>be mean to men and they pay you for it,

543
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>which sounds like the coolest lane ever. Do you ever

544
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>get bored with it? Though? No?

545
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:12.599
<v Speaker 2>It is interesting?

546
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, I think that's fair. What's coming up

547
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>in the future for you? Uh? And let me ask you,

548
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 1>how often do you put out videos? Do you put

549
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 1>them out when they're done or you on a schedule.

550
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to be on a schedule.

551
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:29.559
<v Speaker 1>We're all trying to be on a fucking schedule. Yes.

552
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.799
<v Speaker 2>My goal is like three to four clips a week,

553
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:42.359
<v Speaker 2>so usually like three yeah, and I usually do Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday.

554
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<v Speaker 2>It's been kind of off this year, but marking get back.

555
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:48.599
<v Speaker 1>But you have you have content out there, so go

556
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<v Speaker 1>find it.

557
00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I have like six hundred clips at this point.

558
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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that all? Okay? Well, I should finish that

559
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.759
<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. I want valentinofox dot com if you

560
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<v Speaker 1>do want to pick up her clips and loyal fans

561
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<v Speaker 1>Valentina Fox right, Yes, okay, good, just.

562
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Just just checking loyal fans as well.

563
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>And loyal fans. Yes. Wait did I say OnlyFans, No, you.

564
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Said yeah, loyal fans. I just got live stream on

565
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:15.920
<v Speaker 2>loyal fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, I apologize, I hear it. Okay, okay. So

567
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<v Speaker 1>in the future, what is coming next? Are we just

568
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<v Speaker 1>going to continue growing this brand and doing Is there

569
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>any other There's no other? Is there any other ambitions?

570
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe bringing mentees under you to mentor them, or I

571
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<v Speaker 1>don't know if.

572
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I would do like a mentor thing. I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to have like my own studio, like my own film

574
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<v Speaker 2>studio one day, or like my own like production company.

575
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Would you just want to shoot the type of content

576
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>that you shoot here, or would you be open to

577
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to shoot other types of things?

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00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I would definitely be open to shooting like more

579
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 2>vanilla porn too, or like other other types of porn,

580
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.839
<v Speaker 2>because yeah, I do. Just I love like set design

581
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and I love like lighting and outfit planning,

582
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>like I love everything that goes into like making a shoot.

583
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I saw a really interesting clip on your

584
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Twitter account. As I try and find it, I can't

585
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>find it. Fuck it uh where I'm positive it's happened

586
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.039
<v Speaker 1>a million times before. But I love the concept of

587
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>this and I'd never actually seen it before, and love

588
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 1>the video wasn't necessarily my preference. But what I will

589
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>say is I love the concept. You had a video

590
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>of you in the center. I don't believe it was yours.

591
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I think you retweeted it. You had a video of

592
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.519
<v Speaker 1>you in the center and you were talking and there

593
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>was a trans woman on either side of you who

594
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>was stroking her giant woman dick and uh. I love

595
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>the idea of a mashup of a non nude along

596
00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>with some kind of nude. Like again, not for your art,

597
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.519
<v Speaker 1>but if I saw a girl getting gang banged and

598
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:11.279
<v Speaker 1>then she was dirty talking into the screen next to me,

599
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's the next evolution. As our brain

600
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>stopped being able to process one thing at a time

601
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<v Speaker 1>and have the requirement to process six, seven or eight

602
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>things at a time, I'm gonna need at least four

603
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>screens of porn like I do for football every Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, and honestly and I do. I really

605
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I have a collab I need to. I've been working

606
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.119
<v Speaker 2>on a collab with a porn star, so it would

607
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>be something similar to that. But I really would like

608
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.400
<v Speaker 2>to do a lot more collabs with porn stars and

609
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:49.759
<v Speaker 2>stuff and making content like that, especially because gooning has

610
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:53.799
<v Speaker 2>gotten so big for femnom stuff and for normal porn,

611
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Like that's like the main like crossover. And I do

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00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:01.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of videos about porn addiction, so it just

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00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:02.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of fits perfect.

614
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Are you mocking for porn addiction or are you Okay? Okay,

615
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I saw one of your videos, and this is how

616
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<v Speaker 1>twisted my brain gets, and I have a personal story

617
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.320
<v Speaker 1>to it, so I I'm allowed to make this joke.

618
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>But I saw one of your videos on many VIDs

619
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<v Speaker 1>titled fuck recovery.

620
00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>For half a second though, I was like, is she

622
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>telling people to go drink again if they're alcohol Like,

623
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 1>my brain just went nuts. I thought it was like, hey,

624
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:34.079
<v Speaker 1>fuck recovery, Get out there, hit the bottle. Yeah, jump

625
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:36.800
<v Speaker 1>behind the wheel your car. See what happens baby, roll

626
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the dice. I understand it was means a different thing.

627
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>What does fuck recovery mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck recovery means fuck trying to quit your porn addiction?

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00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, all right, so that's okay. So you were

630
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>you were the problem then when all these conservatives and

631
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<v Speaker 1>Christians are on my Twitter and they're going, like, the

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendments so important, get rid of porn.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to make a political but let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>There's that's what I see on my Twitter. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>First Amendments the most important thing in the world. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of poor and this artis shouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 1>to express yourself in any way whatsoever?

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<v Speaker 2>Great, Yeah, exactly, But yeah, I mean I make videos

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<v Speaker 2>like making fun of that too. Like I have videos

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<v Speaker 2>like aimed at the in cells and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>women like mirror everything that's wrong with society.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, honestly, And I'll tell you this and

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<v Speaker 1>we we'll wrap on this one more question for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I read it years ago when I do my

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<v Speaker 1>comedy show as well as the show. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to check that out people, it's in the episode description.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got two in cells to come on. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to show your face, you can just

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<v Speaker 1>talk to us. We'll just have a normal conversation. And

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds hilarious. And it is a comedy show. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what happened at the end of it, those

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<v Speaker 1>guys became somewhat huge humanized and I felt for them

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<v Speaker 1>and it felt like they just had anxiety problems, and

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<v Speaker 1>they tried to troll right off the bat. The guys like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>wall and you just have people like me, and my

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<v Speaker 1>co host shut that down and say, hey, cut the shit, bud,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about real stuff. So I assume though a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the guys who are buying the in cell stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are probably in cells who you are insulting,

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<v Speaker 1>and they secretly kind of like it, think it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have actually a bunch of content aimed in cells.

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<v Speaker 2>I have like it's not even a real category yet,

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to create this category, but called hate stroking.

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<v Speaker 2>So kind of like the clip I just said, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you hate me so much, you hate girls like me,

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<v Speaker 2>everything that's wrong with society, Life's not fair, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>But here you are watching my videos buying another one.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't stop. You always come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question for you, h are a female supremacist. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's risky in twenty twenty four attaching supremacist at all

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<v Speaker 1>to your name, So I'm going to give you credit

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<v Speaker 1>for taking a chance on that one. Now, does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean you hate men?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you just think every woman on the face of

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<v Speaker 1>the earth ever born is better than even the best man.

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<v Speaker 2>No, okay, I would say just generally, I think women

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<v Speaker 2>are better better leaders. I don't hate men, though I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a misandrist. I think that men have their place,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think my subs that are good boys are great,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that men that are respectful are great.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that the world works better when women

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<v Speaker 2>are in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, yeah, men read carry in the groceries. You're good

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<v Speaker 1>to go. I want valentinofox dot com on Loyal Fans,

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<v Speaker 1>Valentina Fox. I need Valncealentina dot com. Guys, go to

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<v Speaker 1>the episode description. I'm going to have links to everything.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're some fucking crypto nerd, which I would have

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<v Speaker 1>been if I had held it long enough. But I

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<v Speaker 1>fucking sold to buy a Honda Civic, so fuck me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I was about, you know what bitcoin price is.

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<v Speaker 1>I was buying it at one hundred and forty dollars each.

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<v Speaker 1>It's around seventy thousand each right now. Yeah, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hang up and tie in noose. Uh So, ladies and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>my guest tonight, Valentina Fox, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on with me. Valentine, I really appreciate the time

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<v Speaker 1>of course,
