Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out going deeper.
I'm your host, Matt. I've got a great show planned
for you tonight. You'll know my next guest from her
appearances on such websites as many VIDs and clips for sale,
and you can find links to all of our social
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ladies and gentlemen, join me in welcoming the very lovely
Valentina Fox. Valentina. How are you tonight?
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? So Valentina. Look, I'm a little embarrassed to
say this, but I'm mixed up this booking, and if
you're on the show, you're you're either one of two
types of guests. Can I try and figure out which
guest you are?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Go for it?
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay? Are you okay? Are you the girl that's
like cock hungry, gangbang loving, uber submissive lives to like
serve and please. Man would rather drown and abukaki than
die peacefully in your bed and surrounded by loved ones.
Are you that person?
Speaker 2: Or no, no, that's not me.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then you're the influential fendom and fetish model
whose world famous femdom video strike fear and pump blood
into the erections of all of your loyal subordinates. Is
that correct?
Speaker 2: That sounds more okay?
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, Thank you for playing along, Valentino Fox,
I admitted this beforehand. I'd like to tell the audience too.
I've done a lot of these interviews at this point,
and so many women will say, oh, and I fendom too, Oh,
I do fendom stuff too, And I interview pros, I
interview some performers who are still less than a thousand followers, right.
I don't know if I know what fin dooming is
from the outside, as a guy who's married a long time,
everything else, not necessarily looking to the outside for anything
else except to watch a ton of porn while she's sleeping.
That's fun. A findom to me is I text you
and go, Valentina, how much can I send you right now?
And you go one hundred? And I go, would two
hundred be okay? And you say no one hundred and
I go okay, one hundred, send it over. What is
a findom? Walk me through what an actual I have
a real live findom, not someone who says they do fendom.
What is a what is finndomi?
Speaker 2: So finndom stands for a financial domination. It's it's it's
a kink within the femdom fetish. So femdom is female domination.
So basically the fetish of having your money or finance
controlled by a woman. This looks a lot of different
ways though, for a lot of different people, And honestly,
there are very few submissives who are truly just into findom,
Like that's why you know, I like, I think most
sex workers also do kind of interact with finn subs
or pay pigs or whatever they want to call themselves.
Like I know a lot of strippers or porn stars
or just only fans girls like you said that get oh,
I want to serve you. I want to serve you
those kind of messages as well. So it can like range,
like it can range from like complete control over a
sub's life to like setting their allowance for groceries, like
taking basically everything that isn't essential money and like building
them a really strict budget. So it can be that
kind of fine financial control, or I can go all
the way to like a financial ruin fetish of like
subs want to completely empty out their bank account. Yeah so,
and it can be and but a lot of the times, honestly,
I think it has gotten a little confused now because
so many people are trying to do it, and some
people think that it's just expensive femdom basically like doing
a femdom session, but just charging a lot more from
it for it. So I guess some people would consider
it that.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said, it kind of varies.
Speaker 1: Do you have a red line? Maybe you don't, And
that's fine. I will always say this, as long as
everyone's over eighteen and there's no dogs in the room,
I don't give a shit what anyone does with anyone anytime. Okay,
is do you have any kind of line or have
you crossed over from finndom into finn ruin or financial ruin?
Have you done that on anyone in the past.
Speaker 2: I definitely have financially ruined a couple of people. It's
hard to say though, honestly, how many actually, because a
lot of subs it is just a fantasy. And the
ones who are smart enough to understand that it's just
a fantasy, a lot of them will set up like
another bank account, and they'll have like their like allowance
basically for findom in that bank account, and they'll be
sending me screenshots of that bank account saying I want
you to take everything from me, and then maybe I
zero that account. But that's not actually.
Speaker 1: All of it. It's not. Yeah, they're not going into
foreclosure next month because of that, right.
Speaker 2: Well, I have also ruined themselves financially without me even
being aware of it, and they just weren't communicating where
they were at financially, and then like four or five
months into our sub relationship, they're like, hey, I actually
have to stop. I can't pay my bills and blah
blah blah, I'm behind on Brent. So yeah, I mean
not they don't all communicate well to me.
Speaker 1: But okay, so let me ask, then, are you your
own personality, your own set of morals, your own all
of that? Are you okay ruining a guy knowing you're
ruining a guy, actually ruining a guy? Taking the fantasy
out no separate bank account you're ruining a guy.
Speaker 2: I guess it depends. I have one sub that I
would say is pretty ruined. But I mean he lives
with his mom, so like it's not like he's like
homeless because of it. You know, he just can't move
out of his mom's house, all right.
Speaker 1: Like many of my listeners, that's not a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean to an extent, like I definitely
have had subs that were clearly like using me as
a form of self harm, and that made me uncomfortable. Sure,
so if it kind of gets like too like self hating,
then I usually draw the line or we'll just stop responding.
But a lot of the videos that I make and
a lot of the subs that I have are really
into the ruination fantasy. Like I literally just looked over
and got a text on my laptop as I was
saying that that said please ruin me from one of
my sobs, so.
Speaker 1: So oh shit, I was so fascinated by I literally
lost my question. So is okay, I don't want to
talk about that quite, but is there ever any so
if i'm your, if you're my fendom, i'm your what
is the term? Would I be your slave? Would I
be your servant. Do you have a specific one? Are
there levels to it? Like? Can I work my way
up to a slave from a servant?
Speaker 2: I would say, like a sub is kind of what
I call like everyone, but like a slave is someone
who serves me.
Speaker 1: And serves you. Would I mean, how is that is
that any different? I mean they're specifically sending stuff to
you or you requesting stuff from them, or so.
Speaker 2: I am known for my clips, so a lot of people.
A lot of my money that I make I make
through my clip sales. So some people will just engage
with me that way, and they'll just buy my clips
and then they'll kind of pretend to have a session
with me through my clips. The next step would be
like contacting me, paying to talk to me, doing a
Skype session or phone call or something like that. So
I will like Skype session, do like a chat, video session,
video response session. I mean with pretty much anyone who's
respectful and who pays for it. They don't have to
actually serve me or have any relationship with me. They
can just pay, tell me their fetishes and we'll have
a session. But I don't consider those my my subs
or my slaves. Like they're just kind of you know,
they're horny, they hit me up, they want to have
a second. They're not really serving me versus someone who
approaches me and is like, I want to dedicate myself
to you, goddess. I want all of my money going
to you. I want you to make a budget for me.
I want you to put me in chastity or like
something like that where they're only paying me. They're only
serving me, and they're like, you know, sending for like
my breakfast or like buying gives off my wish lists
like doing things more for me, right.
Speaker 1: Right, main okay, mainly dedicate it to you. Yeah, that
makes that makes sense to me. So so I just
want to make this clear. Right, Let's go back to
my scenario. I have approached you, you have accepted me
as a sub, and whatever, I will never likely unless
I go to some event somewhere in high five you
touch your hand, right, I want to make that clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends. I do session occasionally in person with subs.
I have a you. It's less common for me now
because I don't really need to do that. So if
I meet up with a sub, it's someone who they've
paid me for a while online. We've probably skyped a
bunch of times or talked on the phone, and we've
kind of gotten to know each other and I like
want to meet up with them.
Speaker 1: Sure, So then I don't.
Speaker 2: Do like if someone just emails me wanting to book
a session like an avenge or something, I don't do that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's why I was going to ask, did
you start with doing actual physical domination or do you
still do physical domination? It sounds like you might where
you let me ask you, do you do physical domination
as well?
Speaker 2: Yes, but I'm very picky. It's just what it is.
Speaker 1: I totally understand. I get that. Yes, yeah, we're not
picking you to dominate us. You are picking people to
dominate right, Yeah, it makes total sense to me. Did
you find it? Did you start that way or did
you start online?
Speaker 2: I started online and I live in LA now. I
was in New York when I started, And I did
meet up with people for like cash, meat, shopping trips
things like that when I first got started, and then
I started doing sessions a couple months in. But yeah,
I've never like worked in a dungeon like, I've never
really I don't consider myself like a pro dom.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, okay. I was going to ask if you
get more out of hitting a guy's bank account for
the day or hitting them with something real hard ideally both.
Speaker 2: Like cash meet with a ball busting session, so like
meet them at the ATM, give me a thousand dollars
and then I'll kick you in the balls.
Speaker 1: What has been requested of you that you have said No,
I cannot do that because it would go against your brand.
But maybe it just waded too deeply into the waters
for you.
Speaker 2: There's been a bunch of things, I mean, like subs
have it requested, like really intense impact play sessions with me,
which like I don't really feel comfortable doing.
Speaker 1: Because can I impact play like whips.
Speaker 2: And floggers and depending like like light impact play. Yeah,
but like I I don't know, It's just not really
my thing and I haven't been trained on it in
a dungeon to where I would feel comfortable doing that
to like the extent that some people have asked read
into it. Sure, Yeah, there's really not much I feel
like I have I've turned down. I do turn down
a lot of in person sessions, but mostly just pickiness.
I really love like public play like I really love
like having someone like lick my shoe on the street,
or like like I have a video that went like
kind of viral on sex work Twitter that was like
me sitting on someone on one of the streets in
New York and he's like on his hands and knees,
and I was like, I'm tired and just wanted to
sit down waiting for my uber. And I walked by
as I'm talking at a video and he's like, simp. Man,
that's a fucking simp right there.
Speaker 1: And if he was allowed to talk, he probably would
have said, I'm actually a sub, thank you, not quite
a simp. I remember a video maybe last summer, maybe
two years ago, of this this beautiful African American woman
walking to middle aged white men on leashes around It
might have yeah, oh okay, yeah yeah yeah, it might
have been. But I just I was like, man, those
guys are really into it, are the guys? You see.
I have a theory on this. I think Barack Obama
is a sub.
Speaker 2: You know, I really would not be surprised by most
politicians to find that out.
Speaker 1: I think, I think, but it's not I know, it
sounds like I got real political on that. Weell, let
me talk you about Barack Obama. Now, I meant more young,
virile men who are in positions of power. I think
they want the reverse sometimes in the bedroom. Is that right?
Speaker 2: I think it's like definitely both. I think people when
I tell them what I do, they either think that
they're like, oh, I bet you get a lot of
powerful men, or the other half of people are like,
oh I bet they're all like weird losers, And honestly,
they're both right. It's really a mix. Like it's like
like some of the some of myselfs are CEOs or
lawyers or doctors, and they're have really high stress jobs
and they have a lot of employees and they're the
boss all the time, and so they want the power exchange.
Or guys that are really attractive and they've never been
told no, they've never had a problem getting women, so
they kind of want that.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's me. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: And then there's also guys like losers in their mom's
basement that are like exactly what some people think would be.
Speaker 1: Okay, I found one that was a little closer to
my personality than Okay, all right, I'm three on that one. Uh,
let me ask you this. Though you can be a weird,
dopey loser to be a sub for you, what I
assume you can't be is fucking broke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't be broke, and you can't be rude,
like rude fair, Yeah, like you have to be respectful
like and yeah, I like because it is funny because
a lot of you know, I would say a lot
of my subs are like losers, Like they're like forty
year old virgins, or like I've never kissed a girl
in their life, or you know, like they are like
losers by definition, but they're very respectful, like they're very sweet,
they're constantly trying to do things to improve my life
or whatever. And then like the other side of that
coin is like the in cells on Reddit who are like,
fuck these only fans of girls. Will we haven't pay
for anything. There's free porn everywhere.
Speaker 1: Both it's those same guys who switch over to their
alt accounts and see a video and go od fuck
are better? It's like, oh, would you Yeah?
Speaker 2: Would you?
Speaker 1: I'm sure you would? Yeah? Uh So how do you
weed out? Uh? I don't mean, well, this is your job.
You're mean to guys. So it's okay to say this.
How do you weed out the broke fucking losers?
Speaker 2: They kind of weed themselves out usually, Like I have
a fifty dollars initial tribute, so just to talk basically,
think of it as like a consultation fee, like for
me to talk see if it could anything could work
if someone tells me that they want to serve me,
Like I said before, I do one off session, and
so I'll do that and then they don't need to
like it doesn't really matter how much money they make
if they can just pay for that one session. If
someone wants to serve me though, then I have a
sub intake form basically on my website and I ask
what is your monthly income and what are your monthly bills?
And I do turn down subs that I'm like, you
have one hundred dollars to spend a month Like this
is not it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Right, you can you can message me twice yeah your shot?
Yeah yeah, yeah, you know what, but go buy some
of the videos. Okay, go buy something. No, that's what
I say.
Speaker 2: I'm like a better I think you know you can't
afford like a one on one relationship so just keep
buying videos or keep saying subscribed and or you can
maybe buy like one session or something.
Speaker 1: Sure. Uh, I have to say, the quality of your
videos is top not shit really, the lighting, the coloring
I love. I don't know that it's called this. What
is the hypno effect on your voice on some of
your videos? It's just an echo like a reaverb yeah
yeah yeah. And is that meant as like a hypno
thing or no? Yeah? So I definitely have interviewed someone
who did hypno stuff.
Speaker 2: I love that. I love like the mind fuck hypno
like brainwashing kind of is okay?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Please please talk as much as you can because they
don't want to hear me, they want to hear you.
What is the hypno stuff?
Speaker 2: Hypno stuff is kind of just what it sounds like.
So like I make some videos that are like, well,
technically we're not allowed to say hypno or brainwashing on
any of adult sites, so you can't search it by that.
It'll be under like mesmerize o like mind melt, mind
fuck something like that, gotcha, And you know it can
just be like I have some videos that are basically
like meditational videos, and they're like really relaxing and me
telling you to breathe in and out at like certain
times and just like relaxing music and things like that
to kind of get you more comfortable. And then I
have ones that are like more like brainwashing type of things,
like like you said, with the echo, maybe with like
some spirals and just and that can be like you know,
they have like feminization type of ones, or they have
like findom ones, Like there's some really good ones even
that I've seen on YouTube that are just like very trippy,
with like lots of layered audio, and they're kind of
like like you're you're nothing, You're an object for me.
You're an object for me.
Speaker 1: Like so when designing something like that, like I mean
literally just it's so funny. I'm sure people tune into
the show to hear me be like, so do you
like getting gang banged? And it's like no, no, no, no, no.
Here's what I want to know. Is there a refrain
of words in quote unquote mesmerized videos like are you repeating?
Maybe not through the entire video, but do you come
back to something? You are a loser. You are a loser,
You're pathetic, your bubba, you are a loser. You are
a loser.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so I might. I like to layer the
audio a lot too, So I'll put like like layers
of me, like whispering it and being like your like
in the background, and maybe like moans as well, or
like I really like to do like really overstimulating videos
when it comes to the mind fucked mesmur So, I'll
have like the screen flashing to a bunch of different
things of me and different outfits, or like last year
I did a bunch of clips that I was like
cutting up my old clips and turning them into like
a new like a clip of like a bunch of
clips all caught up together. Yeah, so it is like
in different outfits and like kind of saying the similar
things though in all of them.
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. You get the eye level right too.
That would be real creepy where I'm just staring at
you and if everything switches but you're almost saying the
same shit all, I would think I was all fucked
up if that happened. Uh uh So do you have okay,
do you have like editing history? Did you take any
classes on and did you do anything or did you
just did it because you sawid and you decided this
was gonna be your career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've kind of just learned it as I've gone
along with it. I started editing on with like iMovie,
like the free one on Mac, and then now I
use Final Cut Pro. But yeah, the first like year
and a half or two years, I was just on iMovie.
Speaker 1: I I mean, I'm not joking. Maybe it's the equipment
you use, the coloring on your videos, like there are
a million of those. JOI this that like the just
talking to the camera. I don't know if that has
a specific name. I'm non POV okay, okay, but then
POV would be for the other terms I would I
guess I would say more. But your stuff, which is
femdom POV is just it's like higher quality than a
lot of stuff I've seen where it almost looks like
movie quality stuff. And I'm just I'm a little stunned
that you don't have an experience. I always tell new
girls who are getting important, if they are going to
go to college, get a marketing degree with a fucking
minor in Adobe Photoshop, and yeah, Premiere, final cut whatever
you're gonna use, right.
Speaker 2: I wish I knew Adobe.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's all I use. But it's a
hassle sometimes. Yeah, marketing wise, how do you market yourself?
Because it seems like you're in a very large but
narrow niche, right, how do you market you? Do you just?
Do you do stuff on fat life? Do you? I
don't know. I would. I didn't even know how to
market you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Honestly, I have the mindset that I can find
subs everywhere, and I really have. Like I've met people
at parties that ended up being my sub. I've met
people on dating apps, like people have messaged me on
my vanilla Instagram. I started on Twitter, and that's like,
I guess my primary platform for marketing because I don't
have a work Instagram. I have a TikTok too. TikTok's
definitely good. I put some of my videos up on
porn hub for free, so porn hub is definitely a
good one.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 2: I don't really like bet life. I find that a
lot of people on there don't want to pay.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Uh.
Speaker 2: Same with Reddit, like a lot of people on Reddit.
I know it's well, I know it's now we've getting
even harder with the NSFW things on Reddit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very much so.
Speaker 2: But I just a lot of the threads that I
was seeing before specifically don't don't want anyone posting about
findom in there. They don't want anyone posting like if
you're trying to get money at all. They don't want
like you posting payment links in there, Like you can
post a photo of yourself, but you can't post any
like links to anything. Just a lot of things like that.
When I first got started, I honestly found a lot
of people on dating apps and a couple like fetish
dating apps. There was one I don't even know if
it's still around. It was called like kin ku or
something like that. Okay, it's like the worst spammiest app ever.
I don't recommend it to anyone, right, but no.
Speaker 1: One believed you were a real person, this beautiful profile
picture and it's just like get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah I I Yeah, A lot of people called me
a bot, but I but it's fair because like I
would say, like of a hundred messages that I got
on that website, like ninety of them would be bots,
of like the the like fake sugar daddy bots, you know,
like the message baby like just I'll send you at Amazon,
get card or whatever.
Speaker 1: You have to wonder if any of the bots are
communicating with each other within that, I.
Speaker 2: Know, Like I talked to some of the subs that
I did find on there, and they're like, oh, yeah,
I was just getting like hot girl bots. I'm like,
I'm getting these like old man bots.
Speaker 1: It's perfect. You said something in there that that raised
a little bit of interest. What is the difference, And
I know there is a vast difference, but what are
the main differences between a finn dom and what is
it a sugar baby looking for a sugar daddy?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, just the power dynamic. Honestly, I guess.
Speaker 1: It's a total reversal.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, in some ways, like financially it might be similar,
but as far as like the power dynamic, yeah, because
in a sugar baby sugar daddy relationship, the sugar daddy's
in control and the sugar baby's there to like, you know,
please appease them and please them. And yeah, it's reversed
with this sub.
Speaker 1: With the sub sure, so it's only really the power
dynamic though the money is still going from the guy
to the girl. This and that makes sense. I read Okay,
by the way, when you were explaining where everything is,
I'm on your allmilinks dot com slash Valentina Fox. I've
never seen a girl with a Bitcoin or an Ether address,
and I fucking love that. I love not even because
I'm some big crypto guy. In fact, I was buying
bitcoin very early and I sold too late. No, I
sold too early. But what I will say is so
many girls don't realize women. I should say. I should
really stop saying girls I apologize, uh, don't have all
of their bases covered on all of their stuff, like
your shit is all right here. I see some big
name stars who don't even have a link tree or
anything like that, and it's like, what are you doing?
Did you do research before coming into this or how
much did you look or did you just jump in
feet first and you were gorgeous and lucky and talented
and everything worked out great.
Speaker 2: So I actually I was a little bit involved in
the industry before I was a sex worker. I was
a makeup artist in New York, so I worked for
a few companies that worked with a lot of sex workers.
So I didn't make up for a lot of sex
workers before I was actually in the industry, So I
kind of I saw a lot of people's pages beforehand.
I definitely knew how to make good content because I
have a lot of like experience on professional sets. But honestly,
when I first started, my content was not good. I
was using lots of like Snapchat filters and like iPhone quality.
I guess I just I feel like I kind of
learned as I went. I bought a lot of courses
over the years, and like watched a lot of videos,
and like, I've yeah, I've paid for so many different
people's classes or wow, yeah, even people that I think,
even people that are like newer in the industry. I'm
just always curious, like to hear other people's tips and
like what works for them.
Speaker 1: Well, the newer people in the industry could be bringing
in a new trend as well, you know, like ten
years ago or whatever it was when we got a
big like milfinflusion because everyone was fucking their step cousin,
neighbor dog not dog. Uh so, did you you never
had a desire to be on the other side of it, though,
to be performing in front of the camera with another
performer or uh.
Speaker 2: No, not really, I don't know. I kind of got
into the phenomen thing kind of naturally through someone that
I was friends with, someone that I went to high
school with actually was my first sub, so we were
playing for like a year. I had like kind of
seen it online. I knew what it was. I'd heard
of it, and he's the one that like pushed me
to get into like making a dumb Twitter and like
being like more professional with it. But yeah, I never
really considered poorn.
Speaker 1: Honestly, if you weren't doing this, would you be just
a successful mat not just I apologize for saying that,
but a successful makeup artist? Is that where you would
have stayed or did you have other ambitions aside from that?
Speaker 2: Maybe? I don't know. I probably would have gotten into modeling.
It's I had like started doing like some modeling, but
I don't know. Honestly, I probably would have ended up
on like OnlyFans or something similar if I hadn't found findom.
Speaker 1: Okay, cause you were just I mean, you were comfortable
around the industry obviously, and you're gorgeous, so it's like,
fucking why not make some money? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly, That's exactly how I felt when I was
like doing other girls makeup and they were Most of
the girls I met were like, yeah, you should totally
get into it.
Speaker 1: And then you found a lane where you get to
be mean to men and they pay you for it,
which sounds like the coolest lane ever. Do you ever
get bored with it? Though? No?
Speaker 2: It is interesting?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I think that's fair. What's coming up
in the future for you? Uh? And let me ask you,
how often do you put out videos? Do you put
them out when they're done or you on a schedule.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be on a schedule.
Speaker 1: We're all trying to be on a fucking schedule. Yes.
Speaker 2: My goal is like three to four clips a week,
so usually like three yeah, and I usually do Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday.
It's been kind of off this year, but marking get back.
Speaker 1: But you have you have content out there, so go
find it.
Speaker 2: I have like six hundred clips at this point.
Speaker 1: Oh is that all? Okay? Well, I should finish that
over the weekend. I want valentinofox dot com if you
do want to pick up her clips and loyal fans
Valentina Fox right, Yes, okay, good, just.
Speaker 2: Just just checking loyal fans as well.
Speaker 1: And loyal fans. Yes. Wait did I say OnlyFans, No, you.
Speaker 2: Said yeah, loyal fans. I just got live stream on
loyal fans.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I apologize, I hear it. Okay, okay. So
in the future, what is coming next? Are we just
going to continue growing this brand and doing Is there
any other There's no other? Is there any other ambitions?
Maybe bringing mentees under you to mentor them, or I
don't know if.
Speaker 2: I would do like a mentor thing. I would love
to have like my own studio, like my own film
studio one day, or like my own like production company.
Speaker 1: Would you just want to shoot the type of content
that you shoot here, or would you be open to
trying to shoot other types of things?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would definitely be open to shooting like more
vanilla porn too, or like other other types of porn,
because yeah, I do. Just I love like set design
and stuff, and I love like lighting and outfit planning,
like I love everything that goes into like making a shoot.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I saw a really interesting clip on your
Twitter account. As I try and find it, I can't
find it. Fuck it uh where I'm positive it's happened
a million times before. But I love the concept of
this and I'd never actually seen it before, and love
the video wasn't necessarily my preference. But what I will
say is I love the concept. You had a video
of you in the center. I don't believe it was yours.
I think you retweeted it. You had a video of
you in the center and you were talking and there
was a trans woman on either side of you who
was stroking her giant woman dick and uh. I love
the idea of a mashup of a non nude along
with some kind of nude. Like again, not for your art,
but if I saw a girl getting gang banged and
then she was dirty talking into the screen next to me,
I feel like that's the next evolution. As our brain
stopped being able to process one thing at a time
and have the requirement to process six, seven or eight
things at a time, I'm gonna need at least four
screens of porn like I do for football every Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and honestly and I do. I really
I have a collab I need to. I've been working
on a collab with a porn star, so it would
be something similar to that. But I really would like
to do a lot more collabs with porn stars and
stuff and making content like that, especially because gooning has
gotten so big for femnom stuff and for normal porn,
Like that's like the main like crossover. And I do
a lot of videos about porn addiction, so it just
kind of fits perfect.
Speaker 1: Are you mocking for porn addiction or are you Okay? Okay,
I saw one of your videos, and this is how
twisted my brain gets, and I have a personal story
to it, so I I'm allowed to make this joke.
But I saw one of your videos on many VIDs
titled fuck recovery.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For half a second though, I was like, is she
telling people to go drink again if they're alcohol Like,
my brain just went nuts. I thought it was like, hey,
fuck recovery, Get out there, hit the bottle. Yeah, jump
behind the wheel your car. See what happens baby, roll
the dice. I understand it was means a different thing.
What does fuck recovery mean?
Speaker 2: Fuck recovery means fuck trying to quit your porn addiction?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, so that's okay. So you were
you were the problem then when all these conservatives and
Christians are on my Twitter and they're going, like, the
First Amendments so important, get rid of porn.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to make a political but let's be honest.
There's that's what I see on my Twitter. Yeah, yeah,
First Amendments the most important thing in the world. Also,
get rid of poor and this artis shouldn't be able
to express yourself in any way whatsoever?
Speaker 2: Great, Yeah, exactly, But yeah, I mean I make videos
like making fun of that too. Like I have videos
like aimed at the in cells and I'm like, oh,
women like mirror everything that's wrong with society.
Speaker 1: You know what, honestly, And I'll tell you this and
we we'll wrap on this one more question for you.
But I read it years ago when I do my
comedy show as well as the show. If you want
to check that out people, it's in the episode description.
But we got two in cells to come on. I said,
you don't have to show your face, you can just
talk to us. We'll just have a normal conversation. And
that sounds hilarious. And it is a comedy show. Do
you know what happened at the end of it, those
guys became somewhat huge humanized and I felt for them
and it felt like they just had anxiety problems, and
they tried to troll right off the bat. The guys like, oh,
wall and you just have people like me, and my
co host shut that down and say, hey, cut the shit, bud,
let's talk about real stuff. So I assume though a
lot of the guys who are buying the in cell stuff,
some of them are probably in cells who you are insulting,
and they secretly kind of like it, think it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have actually a bunch of content aimed in cells.
I have like it's not even a real category yet,
I would like to create this category, but called hate stroking.
So kind of like the clip I just said, like, oh,
you hate me so much, you hate girls like me,
everything that's wrong with society, Life's not fair, blah blah blah.
But here you are watching my videos buying another one.
You can't stop. You always come back.
Speaker 1: Last question for you, h are a female supremacist. Yeah,
it's risky in twenty twenty four attaching supremacist at all
to your name, So I'm going to give you credit
for taking a chance on that one. Now, does that
mean you hate men?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, you just think every woman on the face of
the earth ever born is better than even the best man.
Speaker 2: No, okay, I would say just generally, I think women
are better better leaders. I don't hate men, though I'm
not a misandrist. I think that men have their place,
like I think my subs that are good boys are great,
and I think that men that are respectful are great.
I just think that the world works better when women
are in charge.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, men read carry in the groceries. You're good
to go. I want valentinofox dot com on Loyal Fans,
Valentina Fox. I need Valncealentina dot com. Guys, go to
the episode description. I'm going to have links to everything.
If you're some fucking crypto nerd, which I would have
been if I had held it long enough. But I
fucking sold to buy a Honda Civic, so fuck me.
It's I was about, you know what bitcoin price is.
I was buying it at one hundred and forty dollars each.
It's around seventy thousand each right now. Yeah, I'm gonna
hang up and tie in noose. Uh So, ladies and gentlemen,
my guest tonight, Valentina Fox, thank you so much for
coming on with me. Valentine, I really appreciate the time
of course,