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much for your support the spending up in Washington, DC

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and the reconciliation and the I don't even know what

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these things are called anymore. I'm losing track of all

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of the different concurrent budget resolutions, continuing resolutions, all of it. Well,

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I figure this might be a good guy to talk

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to about. His name is Ben Tomcik. He is the

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vice president and deputy chief of Staff for the Committee

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for a Responsible Federal Budget. The website is CRFB dot org.

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And Ben, welcome to the show, sir. How are you.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I hope you're enjoying your travels around the

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state of North Carolina. Understand you've done a couple of

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appearances and so far, so good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely I spoke to students at Wingate University this morning,

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and I have to tell you, I was just blown

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away by them. So it's been a really inspiring trip

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down here in North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Because nothing gets the kids excited like talking about the

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federal budget.

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Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, absolutely, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, So explain to me, because like I've been kind

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of following what happens with the spending and like I'm

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a regular order kind of a guy, Like I want

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them to go back to regular order. I think that's

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a pipe dream at this point. I don't think they're

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ever going to really go back to that. So what

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exactly is the mechanism that the Congress is now using

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to create. I don't even know if you Are they

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budgets or are they just resolutions? At this point, I

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don't even know what to call it.

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Speaker 2: Right, So you talk about being a regular order guy,

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I'm a passing a budget. I wish Congress would get

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back to to passing a budget. And what I will

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tell you is right now, what they're doing is they're

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basically basically using a budget resolution and it's kind of

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a show where they agree to how much they're going

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to spend, how much they're going to cut and from

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there what they do is that they agree to those

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levels and then they fill in the details a little

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bit later. On. So last Thursday, before Congress adjourned for

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their Easter recess, the Senate had passed the budget resolution.

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The House then passed with the Senate bill, or excuse me,

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the House then passed with the Senate passed. And I

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just want to put it into perspective. The bill that

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the Senate and the House both passed, and this is

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right before they left town, would allow up to five

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point eight trillion in additional deficits over the next decade,

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and that to me is incredibly concerning. It also has

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the potential to add around seven trillion dollars to the debt. Now,

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to put this in perspective for some of your listener's peep, Historically,

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when we've used this process, it's known as budget reconciliation,

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and I know that's a very Washington term. We've often

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used reconciliation to cut deficits, and now it seems like

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what we're really using it for is we're using it

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to approve more borrowing and.

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Speaker 1: To avoid and to avoid doing.

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Speaker 2: Budgets right absolutely, and to.

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Speaker 1: Maybe pass some you know, healthcare overhaul of one sixth

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of the economy maybe, I like, yeah, just the way

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they use these things. So what is the difference between

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the reconciliation and the continuing resolutions and the omnibus stuff?

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Speaker 2: Oh? So with with with a continuing resolution, what you're

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basically doing is you're keeping funding levels at the same

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you know, at the same level as they have been

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while you normally try to figure out a budget. Okay,

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with a budget resolution, the key thing about or sorry,

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with reconciliation. The key thing about that is it's a

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way to get around the filibuster, right, you know, And

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an omnibus I like to think of an omnibus sort

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of like a Christmas tree. It's like we have a

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vehicle and we're basically just going to pile a ton

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of it's another way of getting around a budget, if

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Speaker 1: So on the website crfb dot org crfb dot org,

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I will point out they've got a bunch of very

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y'all have a bunch of very helpful tools. You got

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the reconciliation resources, a whole bunch of links to analysis

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and blog posts and such. You have a reconciliation tracker,

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you got the COVID money tracker. I saw on that too,

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the Fixed US Project, which is an initiative to assess

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the root causes of political divisions. So is there a

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way that Congress breaks out of this this mold that

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it has been in for like I guess it's probably

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been what ten or fifteen years or so. It just

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doesn't seem they have any incentives to try to go

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back to doing it the way they used to do

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it with actual budgets.

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Speaker 2: Right. Well, the first thing I would say with Congress

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I would have some just stop digging right. We're in

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a thirty six trillion dollar hole right now, and so

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just stop digging, right, That would be my first thing.

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No new borrowing, pay for your priorities. One of the

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things that you mentioned a lot of the resources we

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have on our website. One thing we've been developing over

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the last six months is something called the Budget Offsets Banks.

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It basically is a list of resources where policy makers

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can go to it and find potential policies that can

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help raise revenue to help pay for priorities. So first

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things first, stop digging, no new debt, and then the

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third and then the second thing is pay for your priorities.

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And then you know, if I could add a third

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wish to that, it would be let's start not only

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paying for our priorities, but starting to put a down

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payment on our debt so we can get ourselves out

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of this hole.

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Speaker 1: What are the if you had that member of Congress

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in front of you, and I suspect you've probably and

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you and your colleagues at the Committee for a Responsible

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Federal Budget. I'm sure you guys have talked to members

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of Congress. What are the obstacles that they claim are

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preventing them from doing these things? Because I assume, particularly

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if you're talking to Republicans, but also I would suspect

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a lot of Democrats too, Like I think everybody recognizes

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that a lot of these programs are unsustainable, and the

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budget and the debt, the deficit and the debt are unsustainable.

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What are their excuses?

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the most frequent things we often hear

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from members of Congress is I don't hear about this

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from my constituents. Right, members will say hey, I'm with

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you on the debt, I'm with you on fiscal responsibility,

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but I'm not hearing about this when I go home.

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And so one of the things I and others in

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my organization have been doing is we've been traveling the

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country meeting with students, civic business, and local elected leaders

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to help raise the profile of the issue, to help

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people understand just how unsustainable our fiscal trajectory is and

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what we can do about it, to really kind of

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put that grassroots pressure and to help you raise awareness

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on the local level, because that's one of the things

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as well. You know, the other thing is, and you

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have to address it, is you know, we live in

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highly polarized and partisan times and if you look at

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some of the big drivers of our debt and deficit,

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one of one of which is social security. I mean

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to address that, we're going to need both parties to

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really come together and work together on solutions rather than

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just demonize each other and say, well, I'm not going

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to touch it, because not touching it is not an

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option if we want to protect the program.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the demonizing gets you the clicks on social media.

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So I mean, you've got to have priorities here, like

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we need the clicks.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But here's what I would say, Here's what I

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would say to that with the clips. Let me let

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me give you a quick fact about our fiscal situation

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as a country. Right now, Interest payments on the debt

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are the fastest growing part of the federal budget. And

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right now we spend more on interest on the debt

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in the federal budget than we do on defense and

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on children. And if that doesn't make your blood boil,

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If that doesn't get you outraged about you know where

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we are as a country, I don't know what will,

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because to me, that says a lot about you know,

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what we're spending our money on and what we need

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to change.

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Speaker 1: So how unsustainable is it? And can we grow our

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way out of the out of the debt?

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Speaker 2: So it's not sustainable and we cannot grow our way

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out of our debt. It's worth noting that we were

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at a previous level of debt right after the end

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of the Second World War. But if you remember what

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the state of the world was after the end of

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the Second World War, I mean, we were the lone

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manufacturing superpower left standing. We could generate the economic growth

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that's not going to happen right now, and it isn't sustainable.

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You're starting to see a lot of voices in the

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fiscal community express concern. Jerome Powell was just on television yesterday.

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One of the items he expressed concern about was the

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debt the ratings agency Moody. I believe it was earlier

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this month concerned about our debt load. It's something that

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is not sustainable. Now there are some who will say, well, hey, hey,

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ben Hap, Japan has a high debt to GDP ratio.

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does have that, they also don't have economic growth. So

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you know, it's it's not sustainable and we have to

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get this under control before it's too late.

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Speaker 1: All right, So in thirty seconds, how do you fix it?

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Speaker 2: Well, the first thing you do is, I think number

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one again, no new borrowing. You pay for your priorities.

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You know. The second thing you do is, and this

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is really up to our policy makers, is they've got

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to work together. First. You've got to get together and

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you got to pass a budget. Okay, a budget is

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is your nation's priorities, and we got to get back

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to doing that, you know, And then you know, the

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second thing they got to do is we got to

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start working and putting forward bipartisan solutions to some of

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our big challenges. We know Social Security is going to

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be insolvent in the next eight to ten years, so

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what are are we doing about it? We know interest

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payments on the debt are high, so what are we

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going to do about it? Can we put together a

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plan that puts the debt on a more sustainable path

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than you know, what we're doing right now? That's what

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Speaker 1: I would may, I would just suggest that maybe, uh, Jubilee,

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let's just forgive everybody's debt. Let's just everybody own the

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planet start from zero again? Why not? I feel like

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we're at the point of no return anyway, so why

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not give it a shot.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, you know, I you know, the

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thing that has always allowed the United States to stand

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out as a global economic power is people have a

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lot of belief in the full faith and credit of

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the United States. They believe we pay our bills. Okay,

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they believe they can trust us. And when we start

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you know, forgiving debt, when we start thinking that we

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can print our way out of this situation. Then that

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starts to put that trust in us. That starts to

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make that trust look a little bit shaky. So we

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can't do it. We have to do it by doing

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the hard choices. What we've done hard things before. We've

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done hard things. We've gone to the moon. You know,

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look at what we did in World War Two. We've

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done hard things as a country. We can do that.

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We can do it again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's hard. This is easier, all right. I'm

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just kidding that may but it is true. Look, I

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appreciate the work that you guys do up there and

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in your time today. His name is Ben tom Chicken.

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He is the Vice President and Deputy chief of Staff

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for the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget SRFB dot org.

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A ton of good resources over at that site. Save

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travels to you, Ben, Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks Bete. Have a great day, you too.

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Speaker 1: Take care. All right, if you're listening to this show,

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you know I try to keep up with all sorts

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of current events, and I know you do too. And

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you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why, Well,

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All right, So, as I mentioned, the CRFB dot org

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has a ton of resources on the website about deficits,

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about you know, spending. If you want to get deep

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into the congressional abdication of financial responsibility, this is a

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great resource. And no, they're not paying me to say

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that it is. I was I spend probably too much

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time on there this morning. Like, for example, they estimate

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that enacting the legislation that has been so far proposed,

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and you heard Ben tom Chik mention it, it would

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add five point eight trillion dollars to the deficit, all right,

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It would result in deficits that would be about eight

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point two percent of GDP by twenty thirty four. The

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Senate instructions, the Concurrent Budget Resolution instructions would allow for

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more borrowing than any recent legislation and make it much

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more difficult for policymakers to fix the country's fiscal situation.

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So like this will make things much worse than they

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already are. Under these instructions, annual deficits would be more

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than three trillion dollars in about six years. It would

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rise three and a half trillion to twenty thirty four.

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If you don't do this and you just keep the

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current law in place, you're only at two point six trillion.

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So it's a trillion more what the Senate has proposed.

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While deficits have increased during recessions and emergencies in the past,

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these deficit levels would be unprecedented during normal economic circumstances

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and present major risks to the country's economy and ability

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to respond to crises. Also, their president, the President of

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the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, Maya McGuinness, put

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out a statement when the House of Representatives voted to

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adopt the Senate Fiscal Year Concurrent Budget Resolution, and when

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the House did that, it unlocked the fast track reconciliation process. Okay,

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and she said, this budget sets the stage for the

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largest deficit increase in history. She called it an absolute disgrace.

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The Senate took the houses borrowing allowance and doubled it,

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more than doubled it, clearing the way for a bill

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that could borrow more than the American Rescue Plan, the TCJA,

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the Cares Act, and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law combined combined.

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That's outrageous. The Senate shrunk the Houses required spending cuts,

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so the House had the borrowing allowance that was higher.

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But then they had a bunch of cuts. The Senate

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took the House's borrowing allowance. They said, yes, we liked

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that idea, let's borrow more, but how about we cut

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your cuts. Let's eliminate your cuts by roughly nine point

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eight percent. The Senate required cuts that amount to three

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dollars per household per year. That'll get you a cup

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of cough. Will it even get you a cup of

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coffee anymore? I don't even think so, She says. Attaching

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such a debt blowout to the largest debt ceiling increase

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in history just adds insult to injury. The House messed

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up in deferring to the Senate this time, and they

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must not continue to capitulate to them going forward. Fiscally

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responsible members of Congress should insist that the final legislation

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is fully paid for with substantial spending cuts and thoughtful

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tax reforms. I heard somebody say the other day, actually

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that the Tea Party was the limited government and fiscal

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responsibility people, the Tea Party of twenty ten, twenty eleven timeframe.

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That was us asking nicely. That's what that was. And

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Trump represents what happens when you get ignored for another decade. Now.

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I don't know if Trump is actually going to do

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what's necessary to get the fiscal house in order. He

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has said he's not going to touch Social Security, Medicaid,

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everything else. Right, nobody wants to touch the entitlements. Third

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rail of politics and all that, and the left demonizes

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this over and over and over again. They just can't stop.

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They can't help themselves. They've been doing it for so long,

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it's just it's second nature to them. But this is unsustainable.

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There isn't enough money. There isn't enough money. Cuts are

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going to have to be made, and Congress is going

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to have to do its damn job. But I don't

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think they will because they've offloaded all responsibility onto the

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executive branch. So this way they get to blame somebody

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else for the bankruptcy that we are obviously on the

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McClatchy papers reporting that at the North Carolina State Capitol,

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the State Senate took the first of two votes to

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advance it's proposed two year, sixty six billion dollar budget.

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Yesterday I went over the highlights of the spending plan.

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It's a two year budget. Each year, it's like thirty

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three billion and it's like thirty two and a half

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and then thirty three and a half. I think, so

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the end, this is normal. They do a two year

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budget during their long session. They'll come back next year

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in the short session make any tweaks to the budget,

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but they don't overhaul the budget. They do the budget

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on a two year rolling basis. Wow. Maybe the US

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Congress could do something like that. That would be amazing,

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blending tax cuts, modest raises for teachers and state workers,

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increased reserves for helene recovery, and cuts to programs. Okay,

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so it seems like there is a narrative calcifying here

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for the state Senate budget plan. Now the House is

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going to do its own. I think they're going to

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do theirs the beginning of May. They'll roll theirs out

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and then there will be differences. They will then meet

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in a conference committee together, you know, they'll designate people

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from the House and from the Senate. They'll go together,

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they'll work out differences and stuff, and then they'll come

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forward to the general body with their finished work. And

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generally speaking, those votes tend to I don't want to say,

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I mean, they are basically a formality you can make

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some changes after the fact with amendments, but it doesn't

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usually happen most of the time. You know, the budget

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talks are going on with leadership involved, and so by

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the time you get to the finished product and it

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goes to the General Assembly to vote like that, people

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pretty much know that's it. We'll wait and see what

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the House version looks like. But the narrative is that

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the raises are modest. These are modest raises. Now, one

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thing I feel the need to point out because they

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are talked about as two separate things. The pay raises

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for teachers, state employees, you know, law enforcement, whatever you have.

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You have that discussion that occurs, and then you have

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the discussion about the income tax rates. And it seems

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like reporters never they never combine the two. They never like,

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they never take into account that, yes, the state employees

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are getting a pay raise. And while it may be

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depending on you know, teachers or cops or whatever. I

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went over those numbers the other day, but the that

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pay raise percentage represents a total you know, net paycheck

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that you come home with, right, and then the income

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tax rate by dropping means your net take home is more.

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Does that make sense? So they lower the rate, they

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give you a raise. You end up with more money

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than just simply that raise, because the income tax rate

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is now lower, you get to keep more of your

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own money. But they never combine these two ideas, these

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two concepts, and that is part of the budget. That's like,

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they run all of these numbers and what kind of

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impact is it going to have on revenue and all

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of that. Because there is a philosophy on the right

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that is, you made the money, you should keep your

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money as you should keep as much money as possible.

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If the state or any government ends up with a surplus,

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it means that they took too much. They do not

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want to operate at a surplus. The point of the

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government is not to make money, right, it's to provide

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core services. And the problem is, as I mentioned in

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the first hour, government like fire, is a useful servant

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and a fearful master. It will spread and it will

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it will just keep taking more and more and more,

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getting into all these different areas, crowding out private sector competitors.

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That's why you have to constantly rein it in and

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you do that by not granting it you know, powers

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to do stuff, but also through the power of the purse,

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through the funding. And so if you are constantly seeing

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as our friends on the left usually see surpluses as

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a reason to now enact new plans, new programs to

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spend that money. This is the see a penny, spend

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a penny philosophy that drives people on the left. That's

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their economic way of thinking. They and I went over

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the quotes the other day. The rainy day fund is like,

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it's a offensive to them. Well, they'll say, you know, oh,

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we should have you know, some rainy day fund. Sure,

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but we should totally use that fund right now to

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give teachers pay raises. That's not that's one time money.

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Like they see that as proof though, that that we

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can collect more taxes from people and then we can

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spend it on more programs and services and the like.

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And this goes back to the argument about core services. Right,

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your core services are limited, and just because you end

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up generating a surplus in revenue doesn't mean that you

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should start expanding beyond your core services, because once you

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start expanding beyond the core, you start losing focus on

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what you're actually supposed to be doing. For example, public safety,

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it is actually the only real reason public safety and justice. Right,

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That's the whole point of having a government at all.

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There's no other reason why. At the core base of

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the argument, if you are ordering a society, you're trying

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to build a society around you know, you got a

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thousand people in some little village someplace, you have to

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have some form of order. And who gets to use force,

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who meets out the justice? Right, That's the reason why

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people order themselves under a government giving them the power

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the monopoly onforced Otherwise everybody else is committing violence on

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each other for whatever perceived you know, slights or violations

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that their neighbors may have committed. That's it. And so

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when you and then you start now I'm not arguing,

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you know, I'm not a capital l libertarian saying there

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shouldn't be any government whatsoever to do these things. I

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understand that there are practical benefits, but your core services,

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when you start moving beyond them, you start now getting

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distracted from the thing that you're actually supposed to be doing.

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After a debate yesterday that lasted more than five hours,

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the Senate voted to approve the budget with Senator Dan Blue,

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a Raleigh Democrat, and the former leader of the Senate

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Democrats joining Republicans to vote for the bill, along with

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three other Democrats. One Republican voted against it, but you

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had four Democrats that joined the what twenty six? I

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think it is Republicans to approve it. Interestingly enough, though

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the word bipartisan never mentioned in this story. I'm sure

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it was just an oversight, but that would be the headline.

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Senate approves budget proposal in bipartisan vote. That's a headline

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for this story. But you don't get that when you're

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the Republican majority and you can peel off some Democrats,

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including the former Senate Democrat leader. All right, so spring

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is here a time of renewal and celebrations. You got graduations, weddings, anniversaries,

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and the special days for mom and dad. Your family's

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making memories that are going to last a lifetime. But

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let me ask you, are all of those treasured moments

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from days gone by? Are they hidden away on old

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the details that create a video dot com. So I

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mentioned that one Republican voted against the Senate budget. What's

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the deal with that, Glad you asked? That would be

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Republican Senator Bobby Haynig of Kuratuk County. Why would he

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vote against it? Well, he wants to make sure that

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the state's coastal ferries still remain free, not like free

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from oppression, but like no cost to ride once again

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core services. Republican Senator Bobby Haynig tried to He had

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an amendment, it did not pass. I believe it would

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have cut a provision of the Senate GOP budget item

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that ends free rides on the state's coastal ferries and

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start charging tolls to board the boats, which I kind

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of feel like is a smart thing to do. No

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free rides, because there ain't no such thing as free.

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This is one of the things that like it's difficult.

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I get it. This is your jurisdiction, this is your district.

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You know, you want to make sure that people can

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get on and off the ferries for free. I understand,

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But is that really what gov Co should be doing?

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Should they even be running the ferries at all? So

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Hannick voted against the budget. I don't know what that means.

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If Josh Stein veto's the budget, maybe the House puts

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it back in and then Hannig can vote for it.

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I don't know. We'll see, you know, if he is

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able to get that the free rides continuing. I'm not

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sure the reason. Senator Dan Blue, Democrat from Raleigh, why

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he voted for it. He made an amendment to the budget,

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and that would give County five additional assistant district attorneys. Okay,

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so well that's a good thing. More assistant das. The

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Meckliberg DA says he needs more das. I don't know

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how many meckliberg counties got, but if they're not getting

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more district attorneys, that might I don't know, that might be.

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That might be a testament to the ineffectiveness of the

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local Mecklenberg delegation, which is basically old Democrats, their inability

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to get anything out of a Republican majority. And while

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you could say, oh, that's the Republican's fault, you could

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also argue that it's kind of the Democrat's fault too,

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because if you can't figure out a way to get

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Republicans to increase funding for district attorney's offices, to throw

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more people in jail, right to crack down on crime,

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if you can't figure out a way to convince Republicans

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to sign on to that, I kind of feel like

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that's a you problem. You know, you should be able

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to because my suspicion is that Republicans would be happy

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to add more das to Mecklenburg County for you, if

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you were to run an amendment to ask for, hey,

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we need ten more assistant das or whatever. I suspect

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that if the Republicans agreed to do that, they would

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expect you to vote for the budget but you don't

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want to vote for the budget. You want your thing

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in there, and then you want to vote against the

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whole thing, so you can still get what you wanted

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and not have to explain why you voted for all

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of the other spending that's in the budget. A second

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and final vote was to be today. I don't know

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if they've done it yet or not. For the second reading.

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The House is working on its own budget proposal that's

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expected to be released in a couple of weeks here

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sometime in May. Josh Stein, the governor, said that the

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Senate spending plan is inadequate. We need to spend more money,

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more money, more money. Also, I don't know if he'll

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use the school vouchers issue like Roy Cooper always did

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to veto and medicated expansions now off the table, right

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because we already did that, So now Stein can't use that.

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So I suspect he's going to say, you know, more

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money for Helene recovery and get rid of the voucher

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program and then he'll veto it or more pay raises

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for teachers. So I'd rather veto the budget so they

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don't get anything, right. I don't know, we'll see because

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under the state plan, teachers would see a new salary schedule,

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that's what they call it. You can actually go to

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the website, the state government website, and you can look

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at these schedules. You can look at the pay for

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you know, all the teachers not by name, but by

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years of service, and you know, the annual thousand dollars

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step increases that they get every year for like the

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first fifteen years, the additional bonuses basically annually for the

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you know, certified if they become certified, if they well,

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they haven't restored the masters. I think that is in

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one of the that's in one of the pieces of

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legislation that was run earlier this session. So I don't

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know if they're going to restore that or not. But

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you can look at you can look at the schedule,

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see how much teachers make. And so the starting pay

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would be set under this plan that got passed yesterday,

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approved yesterday by the Senate. Forty five hundred ten dollars

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is the starting teacher pay zero experience forty one five ten.

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That goes to fifty six six fifty, so almost fifty

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seven thousand dollars for those with twenty five years or

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more of experience. Teachers will also get a three thousand

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dollars bonus over the two year budget cycle and the

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raises of two point three percent in year one, three

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point three percent over both years, and again the income

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tax rate drops, so they're keeping more of their own money.

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Most state employees. I went over all of the data

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on that the state employees. There are all different breakdowns

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and there are additional They get a baseline of like

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one and a quarter percent increase, but then there's targeted

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increases across all these different job descriptions real quick. Meanwhile,

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Central Piedmont Community College says that a planned training facility

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will be a great resource for local law enforcement. It's

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one hundred and eighteen million dollar project. It's called Community Lifeline.

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But the activists are like, it's going to be cops

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city like Atlanta that drew all the protests. Yeah from

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the activists, so like, no, we want untrained law enforcement.

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Wait what. CPCC is partnering with Mecklelnberg County to build

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the facility at its Lavine campus in Matthews. It'll feature

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simulation spaces replicating real life emergency scenarios like a townhouse

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or hotel. According to the college's news release, there will

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be a driving course and a soundproof firing range. I

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don't know if that's indoor or outdoor, and it'll expand

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academic programs as well, because yeah, I think this is

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an outrage. Obviously we can't have trained police. My goodness,

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what are these people thinking? All right, that'll do it

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for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I

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