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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Political beat Down. I'm Ben Marcellis, joined by

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Cohen. We've been covering the civil fraud case against

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, brought by the New York Attorney General, Letitia

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<v Speaker 1>James on behalf of the people of the state of

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Donald Trump showed up for two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half days of trial yesterday at lunch, he basically fled

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<v Speaker 1>back to Florida after whining and complaining and having a

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<v Speaker 1>gag order imposed on him because he threatened Judge Arthur

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<v Speaker 1>and Goron's law clerk. What is interesting, and I did

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<v Speaker 1>a hot take with Michael Cohen about this, but I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see if there's any developments as well as

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<v Speaker 1>that in the five hundred million dollar federal case that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump filed against Cohen, that Donald Trump so desperately

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<v Speaker 1>try to avoid having his deposition taken. Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>his lawyers represented to the magistrate Judge Torres and to

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<v Speaker 1>the federal judge presiding over that case in the Southern

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<v Speaker 1>District of Florida that Trump would be in the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Attorney General civil trial the entire week. So Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump wow lied again. It turns out to the federal

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<v Speaker 1>judge in the Southern District of Florida. Michael Cohen, you

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to me yesterday and said that you and your

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers may bring that to the attention of the judge

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<v Speaker 1>in the Southern District of Florida, that Donald Trump misrepresented.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do we stand there, and where do we stand

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<v Speaker 1>with Donald Trump's deposition that you're ready to take on

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<v Speaker 1>October ninth. Is Donald Trump complying with any other aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of that deposition date?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the funny thing when it comes to that, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt in my mind that Judge torre is in

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<v Speaker 2>the Southern District of Miami or already knows that Donald

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<v Speaker 2>has returned to Florida. It was clearly all over the news,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't miss it, including the front page of so

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<v Speaker 2>many different newspapers. So I have spoken with my counsel

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<v Speaker 2>and right now they are working on some documents within

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<v Speaker 2>which just to advise the court of this issue. But

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<v Speaker 2>truth be told, we're not even really interested in what

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<v Speaker 2>would happen based upon Trump's misinformation or lies to the

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<v Speaker 2>court about his necessity of being here in New York

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<v Speaker 2>for this ag trial. Rather, what we're looking for is

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<v Speaker 2>come Monday, that Donald appears for the deposition pursuant to

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<v Speaker 2>the court order, which would be the third time that

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<v Speaker 2>it's noticed for his deposition. As of right now, all

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<v Speaker 2>indications are that he will be here in New York

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<v Speaker 2>for the deposition, but then again, you know that's just speculation.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly you'll find out. We'll be talking about it live

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<v Speaker 2>again on Tuesday. In terms of some of the outcomes

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<v Speaker 2>of this, of this deposition, and you know, my suspicion

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<v Speaker 2>is really that he does not want to either sit

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<v Speaker 2>for this deposition, and I can assure you he certainly

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<v Speaker 2>does not want to sit for this specific New York

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney General trial. He doesn't want to take the stand,

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<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that he regularly states that he does.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how many times have we heard where Donald

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<v Speaker 2>wants to take the stand. I would do it, but

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<v Speaker 2>my lawyers have advised me not to. If that's the

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<v Speaker 2>recommendation that he's getting from his counsel, and he has

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<v Speaker 2>three of them here, If that's the joint recommendation of

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<v Speaker 2>his counsel, I personally hope to God that he starts

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<v Speaker 2>to listen, even though I call them the C team.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be the best advice that anyone could give

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<v Speaker 2>to him, simply because when the guy speaks, he implicates

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<v Speaker 2>himself truth be told. In this specific case, he don't

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<v Speaker 2>even need him to implicate himself. There's more than enough

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<v Speaker 2>documentary and testimony to do that for him. My personal

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<v Speaker 2>opinion is that he's already thrown his hands up in

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<v Speaker 2>the air and he knows that he is going to

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<v Speaker 2>lose this case. Right now, all he cares about is

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<v Speaker 2>trying to preserve his rights on appeal, knowing that the

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<v Speaker 2>case is not going in his favor. All he's thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about now is how to make this into some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a political circus, how to somehow figure out how

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to fundraise off of this trial, and most importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>how to attack witnesses like myself so that one maybe

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<v Speaker 2>something comes out that he might be able to use

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<v Speaker 2>in this five hundred million dollar lawsuit against me, or

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<v Speaker 2>that he could use as some reason that the appellate

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<v Speaker 2>court should overturn whatever judge in Goron's ruling is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be. Right now, he's not thinking about anything except

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<v Speaker 2>for the appeal. I mean, I know exactly what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on in his mind when he threw his hands up

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<v Speaker 2>in exasperation yesterday. We all anybody that knows him already

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<v Speaker 2>knew that he's basically fed up. He's had enough of

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<v Speaker 2>this case. He picks himself up, he gets back onto

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<v Speaker 2>his plane, and he runs back to his safe place.

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<v Speaker 2>Right he's running back, so to speak. He's running to

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<v Speaker 2>his mommy, which is really Mara Lago, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>the sycophantic fools that are running around the place, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>calling him miss the President. And every time that they

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that he walks into the room, they all

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<v Speaker 2>get up and start to cheer and clap for him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he needs. He needs the accolades of the crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't getting it here in New York, and he

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<v Speaker 2>for sure wasn't getting it in the courtroom. So what

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<v Speaker 2>does he do? Pick yourself up and flee like the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like the coward that he really is.

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<v Speaker 1>He lasted two and a half days in a court

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<v Speaker 1>room where people who are litigants to cases. It's work,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to sit there. He represented to a judge

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<v Speaker 1>that the federal judge presiding over the case where he

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<v Speaker 1>sued you, that it was indispensable. Is what his The

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<v Speaker 1>exact words his lawyers used to the federal judge in

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<v Speaker 1>the Southern District of Florida and Miami Division four. Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump to be there, but he just left, and you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that he's got the C team of lawyers. First

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<v Speaker 1>thing I want to mention before going into the Sea

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<v Speaker 1>team of lawyers is I am increasingly feeling like we

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<v Speaker 1>may not see Donald Trump ever show up at that

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<v Speaker 1>New York Attorney General case period that he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>invoke his Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination and he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to sit there. He's not going to testify.

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<v Speaker 1>And he basically spent the two and a half days

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<v Speaker 1>whining so that he could throw up his hands, and so.

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<v Speaker 3>The judge treated me unfairly. I'm not going to get

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<v Speaker 3>a fair shot, so I got to invoke my Fifth

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<v Speaker 3>Amendment right against self incrimination. The judge already predetermined. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought he was actually going to testiment. He testified at

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<v Speaker 3>a deposition where he did horribly and he basically said

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<v Speaker 3>that he's got worthless clauses that allow him to defraud everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>He claimed he's never like looked at the statement of

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<v Speaker 3>financial conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>When he clearly did. He blamed it on Eric.

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<v Speaker 1>He said the Saudies will buy his property for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>He you know, just basically admitted.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Jeff mcconnie was on the stand today

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole issue of his triplex was an issue

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<v Speaker 2>that came up, and he then turned around, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think something that because I was reading it online in

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<v Speaker 2>in an article, somebody put out that mcconnie stated that

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<v Speaker 2>Trump did have the final look, review and approval right

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<v Speaker 2>on these financial these statement of financial conditions. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember if I saw it in a paper, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it here on my Instagram TikTok or my Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Well X as they call it now, I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know what to call that, you know, X. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's It's certainly not something that I would think if

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<v Speaker 2>you were Trump's lawyer. I don't believe Ben, that you

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<v Speaker 2>would recommend to him, knowing who he is as a client,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing how he doesn't tell the truth, knowing how he

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<v Speaker 2>either over exaggerates or puts his own foot in his mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>that you would recommend to him that the smart thing

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<v Speaker 2>for you to do in this case is to take

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<v Speaker 2>the trial. He doesn't have to. It's a civil trial.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if he does take the stand and he pleads,

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<v Speaker 2>the fifth Judge and Goron has the absolute right within

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<v Speaker 2>which to infer guilt. He can infer whatever he wants

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<v Speaker 2>as a direct result, and that is not an appealable

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<v Speaker 2>issue simply because he took the fifth. And again, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a civil case. You know, the fifth is really

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<v Speaker 2>designed to prevent you from incriminating yourself in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in a criminal case, not in civil so and Goron

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<v Speaker 2>would have the right to look anyway that he wants.

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<v Speaker 1>To add that, you mentioned Jeff mcconnie, who is Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's controller of the Trump organization, or should I say

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<v Speaker 1>was the controller, because we knew that he testified in

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<v Speaker 1>the Manhattan District Attorney's felony criminal case against the Trump organization,

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<v Speaker 1>where the Trump organization was swiftly convicted of over a

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<v Speaker 1>dozen felony counts. Mcconnie, we know from the jury in

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<v Speaker 1>the case against the Trump organization the jury hated him.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought he was a liar, they thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>further incriminating himself. They hated him. He was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons why they came to the guilty verdict. So

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<v Speaker 1>I knew mcconnie was not going to be helpful to

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump organization here. Mcconnie starts off by saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he got a five hundred thousand dollars severance to basically

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<v Speaker 1>leave the Trump organization. He's not gotten paid the full amount.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump still owes him money, to which mcconnie says, it's contingent.

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<v Speaker 1>So the New York Attorney General's lawyer said, contingent on what,

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<v Speaker 1>and mcconne's like, oh, I don't know. Being alive, which

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<v Speaker 1>you know, shows the credibility as there. Then this was

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<v Speaker 1>the point shout out to Jose Paglieri's in the courtroom

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<v Speaker 1>doing some great reporting, and I think it's important that

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<v Speaker 1>we give him the credit for these up to date moments.

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<v Speaker 1>And Paglieri says, while reviewing the contract between the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>Org and the outside accounting firm Masers, who Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer yesterday spent the whole day attacking the outside accountant

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<v Speaker 1>trying to blame them. Mcconnie conceded that the disclaimers, the

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<v Speaker 1>so called worthless clauses, whatever you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 1>lays all the blame on Donald Trump. So the question

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<v Speaker 1>from the New York Attorney General was, mister mcconnie, so

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<v Speaker 1>those disclaimers, they placed the burden squarely on Donald Trump's shoulders, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>to which mcconnie donald Trump's controllers said correct, yes. And

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<v Speaker 1>then at further evidence was presented of the Independent Accountants

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<v Speaker 1>compilation report. But ultimately where the valuations were changed is

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<v Speaker 1>that there was an interlineation on the top right that

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<v Speaker 1>says Donald J. Trump to get final review. So ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump tries to claim that he knows nothing about

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<v Speaker 1>these financials and mcconnie just basically right there destroyed all

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<v Speaker 1>the points Trump was trying to make yesterday. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I think one of the reasons Trump left was, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a gag order imposed on him, Yes he

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<v Speaker 1>had a temper tantrum, but today was the day where

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<v Speaker 1>damaging smoking guns were introduced to show the wannabe emperor

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<v Speaker 1>has no close that he's not worth as much money.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole scheme was presented today. He didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in court where he was being humiliated with the facts.

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<v Speaker 1>That tells you a lot about him. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get your thoughts on that, Cohen, and then I also

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about though this motion to stay that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's lawyers want to file. They want to stay

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<v Speaker 1>the current trial based on the judge's partial summary judgment

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<v Speaker 1>ordering the Trump organization dissolved. But we'll get there in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. What are your final thoughts on mcconnie, And

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<v Speaker 1>then I want to talk about how bad Trump's lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>are for filing this motion to stay late again.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know what they're doing. Yeah, So, look, Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>mcconnie was not an executive. He was an assistant controller.

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<v Speaker 2>He works solely for Alan Weiselberg. I explain this, of

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<v Speaker 2>course to the various different law enforcement agencies that questioned

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<v Speaker 2>of the Attorney General, asking very specific and very direct questions.

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<v Speaker 2>advising him, right now, they all think everybody else is

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<v Speaker 2>in fact it's obvious the other way around. Is what

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<v Speaker 2>just appropriately stated, mcconnie's statements are corroborated by probably a

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<v Speaker 2>that much information that is necessary. A lot of it,

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<v Speaker 2>purpose of just making this into a shit show, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what they want to do, fundraise off of it,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what they are doing. And I feel kind

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<v Speaker 2>of bad for Bender being on that for two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half days. But one thing for certain was Bender

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<v Speaker 2>explained that whole worthless clause the disclaimer, and the disclaimer

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<v Speaker 2>That basically what it really says is that this is

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<v Speaker 2>not obviously an audited financial and that you know the

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<v Speaker 2>information was provided by the client, but it cannot be

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<v Speaker 2>relied upon because it has not been audited or checked

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<v Speaker 2>by the accounting firm, et cetera, et cetera. I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I actually had one in front of me. Next time,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe on Tuesday, I'll have the original one in my

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<v Speaker 2>possession and we could go through it. But the disclaimer

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<v Speaker 2>is not anything what Donald or his counsel are claiming

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<v Speaker 2>it to be. That's just not what it's about. More importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>make it. Just again, it's a defense that they are

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<v Speaker 2>already telegraphing that they intend on using. I don't think personally,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think most pundits that I've seen so far

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<v Speaker 1>We have some breaking news I want to report right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a scoop from ABC that months after leaving

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<v Speaker 1>the White House, Donald Trump allegedly discussed sensitive information about

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear submarines with a random member of his Mara a

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<v Speaker 1>but this just broke. We will keep you posted, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think there is no.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean, I don't mean to break in here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel I have to. One of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that I warned everyone, not just from House Oversight, but

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<v Speaker 2>all the way television. I remember sitting with Joey Reid,

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<v Speaker 2>with Reverend al with Ari Melbur, with Alison Camraada, you

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<v Speaker 2>name it, how many people I sat with, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you're all looking at the wrong thing. Okay, Yes, we

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<v Speaker 2>know he has these top secret documents. We know that

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<v Speaker 2>they have now been taken as result of the subpoena

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<v Speaker 2>of the warrant that was executed on mar A Lago.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the more dangerous thing that we should all

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about. What we should be talking about is

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<v Speaker 2>while these documents were in his possession, who saw them,

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<v Speaker 2>what did he do with them? Who has copies of them?

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<v Speaker 2>What they needed to do. And this is the example

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<v Speaker 2>that I gave, kind of like the game Where's Waldo?

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<v Speaker 2>They need to think. They need to go back literally

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<v Speaker 2>to the day after he left the White House, and

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<v Speaker 2>out and this is a full time, full time job

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<v Speaker 2>for not one person, but a whole team to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out his itinerary, who he met with, and so on,

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<v Speaker 2>and start to speak to those people about what information

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<v Speaker 2>that Donald showed them, that they talked about, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the most important thing, the most important thing is

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<v Speaker 2>not locking up Donald. That will happen potentially on its own.

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<v Speaker 2>The most important thing is our national security and who

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<v Speaker 2>knows who he showed what to and how that information

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<v Speaker 2>that has been leaked or sold or given away for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason it might be, places all of us, places

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<v Speaker 2>our country at risk. These are the important things that

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<v Speaker 2>we need to know right now. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>the Biden administration is not all over this, the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that Congress has not asked for some sort of a hearing,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the DOJ is not pursuing this area,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it's abhorrent. There is no reason in the

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<v Speaker 2>world why they should not know every single place that

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<v Speaker 2>Donald went that they should not know the names of

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<v Speaker 2>every single person that Donald spoke to. We do as

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<v Speaker 2>a country need to know exactly who he spoke to,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what he showed them, because this example is what

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke about two and a half years ago. Two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half years ago, I said, rest assured. Donald

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<v Speaker 2>cannot keep a secret, not if he thinks that it

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<v Speaker 2>could benefit him personally. I'd love to know the name

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<v Speaker 2>of the marro Lago member, because chances are I may

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<v Speaker 2>know who that person is, and I may know what

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<v Speaker 2>that person might have benefited from having that information. This

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<v Speaker 2>is really no joke. You never know what Donald is

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<v Speaker 2>going to do. Remember that he doesn't care about the country,

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't care about the American people, and he certainly

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't care about selling giving whatever it might be, this

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<v Speaker 2>top secret information to one of our country's adversaries, especially

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<v Speaker 2>because he's mad at the country that he wasn't reelected,

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<v Speaker 1>Well, to be fair with the Department of Justice, they

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<v Speaker 1>are pursuing this and from the outset, they have been

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing all of the people who Donald Trump may have

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<v Speaker 1>shared this information with. That's how they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>identify it. We're learning about this now because Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>in the Southern District of Florida, arguing that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have all of the SEEPA Section four documents Classified Information

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<v Speaker 1>Procedures Act documents. Jack Smith doesn't want to share about

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of those documents, even in a skiff with

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's lawyer, like the nuclear records, likely because the

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<v Speaker 1>fear is that you can't even show Donald Trump these

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<v Speaker 1>documents because of the exigit exigen circumstances that would be

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<v Speaker 1>caused the danger and threat he poses. So Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to get a continuance. He filed a motion

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<v Speaker 1>to continue trial, acting like Jack Smith has to show

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<v Speaker 1>him the nuclear records again, and Jack Smith's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Section four of SIPA says, I could request from the

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<v Speaker 1>judge a summary. Don't have to show all of these documents.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I think the timing of this is coming

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<v Speaker 1>out now and as the breaking news story is hitting

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<v Speaker 1>the wire. Here's what we're learning in Cohen. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>know if you know this individual, an Australian billionaire, a

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<v Speaker 1>member of mar A Lago by the name of Anthony Pratt,

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<v Speaker 1>largest packaging companies. In those interviews, Pratt described how, looking

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<v Speaker 1>A Lago in April twenty twenty one, he brought up

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<v Speaker 1>the American submarine fleet, which the two had discussed before,

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<v Speaker 1>sources told ABC News. According to Pratt's account, as described

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<v Speaker 1>by the sources, Pratt told Trump he believed Australia should

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<v Speaker 1>to which an excited Trump, leaning toward Pratt as if

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<v Speaker 1>to be discreet, then told Pratt two pieces of information

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<v Speaker 1>about US submarines, the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads

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<v Speaker 1>get to a Russian submarine without being detected. And emails

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<v Speaker 1>and conversations. After the meeting with Trump, Pratt described Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>eleven of his company's employees, ten Australian officials, and three

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<v Speaker 1>former Australian Prime ministers, sources told ABC News. While Pratt

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<v Speaker 1>told investigators he couldn't tell if what Trump said about

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<v Speaker 1>US submarines was real or just bluster. Investigators nevertheless, nevertheless

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<v Speaker 1>asked Pratt not to repeat the numbers that Trump allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>told him, suggesting the information could be too sensitive to

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<v Speaker 1>relay further. ABC News was told by sources. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about there, Donald Trump just gave away sensitive

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<v Speaker 1>information that could lead to millions of Americans getting killed

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<v Speaker 1>by revealing our defensive readiness and our defensive posture of

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<v Speaker 1>our nuclear submarines, you know, with respect to Russia, based

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<v Speaker 1>on our alliances with Australia, and all of our secrets

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<v Speaker 1>are getting out there. And yet the maga Republican morons

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<v Speaker 1>are inviting this guy back to the House of Representatives

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<v Speaker 1>where he led an insurrection. Are you freaking kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>Like has all legacy media? I know, Oh, the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>Party at this point has just embraced this maga trader

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<v Speaker 1>putin puppet label. But when I'm reading this, and the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I waited just a little bit going to even

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<v Speaker 1>read it like ten times and it didn't compute in

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<v Speaker 1>my mind that this could be real. So I went back,

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<v Speaker 1>I went back and I said, he shared with a

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<v Speaker 1>we can defend ourselves to Russia. Imagine what this freaking

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, Ben, one of the things that I had

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<v Speaker 2>said before, and it's one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 2>love about political beatdown, and it's something that you and

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<v Speaker 2>I constantly refer to. You and I do not agree

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<v Speaker 2>on everything, and we're not supposed to, and we can

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<v Speaker 2>still have a civil conversation. This is what is lacking

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<v Speaker 2>right now in our government. Two and a half years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>has shown and spoken about these top secret documents to others,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is imperative that our DOJ does something to

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<v Speaker 2>find every single person that he spoke to and understand

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what he told them so that we could ensure

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<v Speaker 2>national security to this country. Two and a half years later,

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<v Speaker 2>we have an article that corroborates my feelings, the belief

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<v Speaker 2>that I had we should be further. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>mean further, I'm talking way further down the line, because

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<v Speaker 2>it is our national security, and there is nothing more

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<v Speaker 2>important than American security. It is the single first import

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<v Speaker 2>that a president is responsible for, and that is for

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<v Speaker 2>the safety of all Americans. That is really the job

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<v Speaker 2>of the president of the United States, and the administration

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<v Speaker 2>should be right now pushing to find every single person

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<v Speaker 2>that this Mandarin Mussolini was speaking to, because I assure you,

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<v Speaker 2>we obviously know. But how much further down the line

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<v Speaker 2>did he provide documents information national security secrets? We don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We truly don't know. And that's the scariest thing is

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<v Speaker 2>not knowing. Yeah, so, Ben, we lost you in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of your sound. But I want to just go on.

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<v Speaker 1>I was saying chills, you know, you know, I probably

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<v Speaker 1>muted it, so I was just screaming and chills. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is treason, no wonder, he says and projects trees

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<v Speaker 1>and treason. Your treason is your treason, is why he

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<v Speaker 1>goes all projection. How he goes after General Mark Milly,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He goes

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<v Speaker 1>after his former chief of Staff and four star General

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<v Speaker 1>John Kelly. He goes after his own Secretary of Defense,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Esper, who he calls Mark Gesper, because he knows

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<v Speaker 1>what a treasonous, traitorous person he is, and he's engaged

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<v Speaker 1>in conduct like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we not always talk about Trump deflection? I mean, again,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go back to my book Revenge, how Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>weaponized the United States Department of Justice against his critics.

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<v Speaker 2>What line is Donald using? He's using how Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>weaponized the Department of Justice against his critic, meaning him

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<v Speaker 2>your favorite president, so the leading nominee for the Republican

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<v Speaker 2>Party for twenty twenty four. I mean, these are the

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<v Speaker 2>lines that he's using. Why Because you're right, Ben, And

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<v Speaker 2>this is where we definitely agree. Not only is he traitors,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy is absolutely out of his mind. He knows

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<v Speaker 2>what he's done. He thinks everybody is as devious as

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<v Speaker 2>he is. And so instead of accepting it, instead of

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<v Speaker 2>even keeping quiet, he's deflecting and trying to place all

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<v Speaker 2>of these negative qualities and traits onto somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, when you talk about we'll go

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<v Speaker 1>back in a little bit to the New York Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General's case, because I want to just show everybody how

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<v Speaker 1>badly Trump's lawyers, from just a legal standpoint, screwed this

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<v Speaker 1>up by allowing the case to go to trial and

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<v Speaker 1>not filing the motion for stay the moment partial summary

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<v Speaker 1>judgment was granted against Donald Trump. Now, look, Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>liable as can be, but his lawyers also have no

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<v Speaker 1>clue what he is doing. And I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do a hot take on this in real time because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to give them the advice of how

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<v Speaker 1>they were screwing it up. But they could have if

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<v Speaker 1>they were competent, they could have said, look, we're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with dissolution now, so we need to deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>trial after dissolution for partial summary judgment. But they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. The reason I'm just bringing that up now

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<v Speaker 1>is Mara A Lago is clearly not worth more than

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred million dollars. But in Donald Trump's mind, with

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<v Speaker 1>the nuclear secrets he possessed there, and you have to think,

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<v Speaker 1>like the pathological trader that he is, with all those

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<v Speaker 1>documents there, mari A Lago in his mind, to the

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi's to foreign interest, mar A Lago was then worth

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<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars think about what he's Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing, so let's just disagree in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of what the actual value is on mar A Lago.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, is it worth a hundred, is it worth

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred? What's the difference. I'll tell you what it's

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<v Speaker 2>not worth. It's not worth one point five billion. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not worth a nine hundred and eighty million that they

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<v Speaker 2>had on their financial statement or whatever the amount was.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the issue. The issue is it's not that

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks that it's got buried treasure in it or

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<v Speaker 2>it has the nuclear secrets. That's something separate to him.

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<v Speaker 2>He saw mar A Lago as this magnificent estate, which

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It is a magnificent estate built by Marjorie

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<v Speaker 2>Merriweather post fantastic property. But what he does is he

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<v Speaker 2>conflates everything. And that's the whole problem. And that's the

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<v Speaker 2>mistakes that he made. And that's the reason that the

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney General has brought this case, and more importantly, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the reason that Donald left because he knows that there

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<v Speaker 2>is no way for him to ever ever sit on

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, to sit in the stand and to

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<v Speaker 2>be cross examined by Attorney General prosecutors right as to

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<v Speaker 2>where did this number come from? How did you derive

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<v Speaker 2>nine hundred plus million dollars eight hundred million, seven hundred million,

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<v Speaker 2>What was the formula that you used? And then start

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<v Speaker 2>talking to him about the various different methodologies that are

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<v Speaker 2>employed in terms of valuating or assessing the value of

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<v Speaker 2>the property. The reason he also doesn't want that is

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<v Speaker 2>because he doesn't know them. See it's funny, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>funniest part. So the guy with the big brain, the genius,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't even understand the methodology that would be used

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<v Speaker 2>because he doesn't care about it. That's the narcissistic sociopathy

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<v Speaker 2>of Donald Trump. And you know, it's like it reminds

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<v Speaker 2>you like it just it's I don't know. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>more that I can say on that he cannot take

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<v Speaker 2>the stand because the way that he screwed up the

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<v Speaker 2>last time, the way he screwed up on the deposition

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<v Speaker 2>in this specific case or Egen Carol, will all be

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<v Speaker 2>nothing compared to the mess he's going to make by

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<v Speaker 2>taking the stand in this case, especially with this team

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<v Speaker 2>of prosecutors. I mean that really, aces.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get your prediction, Michael Cohen about whether

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump will show up to the deposition that you've

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<v Speaker 1>noticed for October ninth, after Trump delayed. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get your prediction if you think Donald Trump is going

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<v Speaker 1>to return at all to the New York Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>civil fraud case, or if he's just done with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've got a lot more to discuss as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to remind everybody here that after the show ends,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't worry, the show's not ending, We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more show. We do an after show, an exclusive

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<v Speaker 1>Patreon after show. The Patreon Political Beatdown community is growing rapidly.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have outside investors, so the way we build

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<v Speaker 1>features we have the exclusive after shows, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>a living, breathing autobiography where Cohen has shared his experiences

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<v Speaker 1>in jail. He's explained his experiences writing a book while incarcerated,

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<v Speaker 1>best sellers to New York Times bestsellers, one while he

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer before Donald Trump, and we also tackle some breaking

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<v Speaker 1>a month we'll be doing this in October soon as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We do a zoom chat where you can all meet

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. We are live on political beat down.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, I want to thank everybody. So many people

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<v Speaker 1>That's how confident I am that we spend a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time Cohen and I curating it. But Coen, going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the New York Attorney General case, you are

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<v Speaker 1>a witness in that case, Donald Trump and his team

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<v Speaker 1>have already been attacking you. They attack you in the press,

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<v Speaker 1>they attack you in their opening statement, and we saw

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<v Speaker 1>of court they are going to harass you. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge task to have to testify in any case,

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<v Speaker 1>get alone one of this magnitude, with the level of

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<v Speaker 1>threats and dangerousness that's coming from the Trump side. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to note, as your friend, and I

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<v Speaker 1>consider us to be very close friends, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know I haven't called you up yet since you know

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<v Speaker 1>some of the news broke today, how are you feeling like,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you feel feeling. Are you getting sleep? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I see you up late at like two thirty am.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing? Sleeping is really tough, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've kind of shared with a lot of the you

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<v Speaker 2>know brigaders here as well as on my other podcast

638
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<v Speaker 2>on Maya Kulpa, the fact that you know, I still

639
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:30.519
<v Speaker 2>suffer from PTSD when I was incarcerated and the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>one days of solitary confinement. You know, there are triggers

641
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<v Speaker 2>that will wake you up in the middle of the

642
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:39.440
<v Speaker 2>night and then for me, it's impossible to go back

643
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<v Speaker 2>to sleep. This is a whole different level of I

644
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:49.480
<v Speaker 2>don't want to call it anxiety, but that's I guess

645
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>what it is, simply because I know exactly what Trump's

646
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<v Speaker 2>defense counsel intends on doing. They really do believe that

647
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<v Speaker 2>by discrediting me or embarrassing me, or trying to harass me,

648
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:13.880
<v Speaker 2>that that's going to create some sort of opportunity for

649
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:18.199
<v Speaker 2>them to be successful in this case. And even if

650
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<v Speaker 2>it's not. One of the things that they do know

651
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 2>is that by bloodying me up, that Trump will continue

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<v Speaker 2>to raise money as he's been doing so far. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw somewhere that he may have raised close to forty

654
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:35.559
<v Speaker 2>million dollars since the start of this ag trial. That

655
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<v Speaker 2>is astronomical dollars astronomical And who are these idiots that

656
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:43.119
<v Speaker 2>are giving him the money? I don't know, but they're

657
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<v Speaker 2>the same people that send, you know, the nasty text messages,

658
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:53.159
<v Speaker 2>the nasty social media comments and so on. It's the

659
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<v Speaker 2>same group of people. And that's all that this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to turn into. But where it becomes somewhat annoying

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<v Speaker 2>for me is like when I was sitting on the

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<v Speaker 2>the witness stand before the House Oversight Committee, that's the

663
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.960
<v Speaker 2>hearing that everybody got a chance to see live. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to hold your temper, You have to you know,

665
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:26.400
<v Speaker 2>you have to really keep yourself controlled, because if you

666
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<v Speaker 2>notice the number of journalists that are currently watching this

667
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<v Speaker 2>trial and reporting on it literally second by second, minute

668
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:39.199
<v Speaker 2>by minute, hour to hour and then overviews and so

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<v Speaker 2>for who have we had on the stand? Donald Bender,

670
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 2>accountant for Maser Okay, got a lot of attention, Jeff mcconne,

671
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:52.039
<v Speaker 2>really serious, got a lot of attention. It's getting a

672
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 2>lot of media. Could you imagine the amount of media

673
00:43:55.480 --> 00:44:00.840
<v Speaker 2>that is going to be following this case as I

674
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<v Speaker 2>take this stand, and I don't even know how many

675
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>days they intend on keeping me, and it's it's wearing

676
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:17.079
<v Speaker 2>on me because I'm really I'm trying to restart my life.

677
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to get a hold of things, but I can't.

678
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I can't because I'm dealing with this New York AG's case.

679
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<v Speaker 2>And then after that, obviously you know that I have

680
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.519
<v Speaker 2>the Manhattan District Attorney's case. So my life still is

681
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:39.480
<v Speaker 2>centered around holding Donald accountable for his dirty deeds. That

682
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:44.119
<v Speaker 2>is going to be another six plus months before I'm

683
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:48.440
<v Speaker 2>finally finished with the notion of testifying or having to

684
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 2>come in and provide information or whatnot. And so it's exhausting.

685
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<v Speaker 2>It's absolutely exhausting, and I'm not going to hold back.

686
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I allowed government to have me hold back the first time,

687
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.800
<v Speaker 2>and all that came out of it were lies upon

688
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:12.480
<v Speaker 2>lies upon lies about me, to the extent that I

689
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.719
<v Speaker 2>ended up writing the book Revenge to try to correct

690
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.639
<v Speaker 2>some of the lies the inaccuracies that were being spewed

691
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:24.840
<v Speaker 2>about me because they're just not true. And you know

692
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:29.880
<v Speaker 2>the problem is, not enough people have read it, and

693
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:32.599
<v Speaker 2>the people who know what the lies are, well, they're

694
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:36.360
<v Speaker 2>the people that don't support Donald Trump anyway. The question

695
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:40.719
<v Speaker 2>becomes how to impress upon the people who are magas

696
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:44.559
<v Speaker 2>who are purple. They are in between. They're not sure

697
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 2>that the independents to get them the information so that

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00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:52.000
<v Speaker 2>they understand that I am the first political prisoner held

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<v Speaker 2>by my own country because I wouldn't waive my First

700
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Amendment constitutional rights, that they used threats of litigation against

701
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.239
<v Speaker 2>my wife in order to get me to plead guilty

702
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:05.840
<v Speaker 2>to crimes that I never did. And then people say, yeah, bullshit,

703
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Then you never would have you never would have agreed,

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<v Speaker 2>you never would have copied the you know, the plea

705
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:14.880
<v Speaker 2>and so on. Really, well, here's just one real quick example.

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<v Speaker 2>First and foremost, I was charged with the Karen McDougal payment,

707
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:24.280
<v Speaker 2>the same as, for example, the Stormy Daniels. All you

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00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:27.960
<v Speaker 2>have to do is look online and it's been acknowledged

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<v Speaker 2>by David Pecker, the former president of AMI, that they

710
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:34.639
<v Speaker 2>are the ones that made the payment. All I did

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<v Speaker 2>is look over the agreement to ensure that Donald would

712
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:41.599
<v Speaker 2>be protected based upon them owning the life rights to

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00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:46.320
<v Speaker 2>the story of Karen. But they get immunity. David Pecker

714
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.199
<v Speaker 2>gets immunity. Alan Weisselberg got immunity on it, and Michael

715
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Cohen has to plead guilty because they gave me forty

716
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:56.199
<v Speaker 2>eight hours over a week and to either accept whatever

717
00:46:56.360 --> 00:46:58.320
<v Speaker 2>charge is that they were going to throw at me,

718
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:01.760
<v Speaker 2>or they were filing an eighty page that included my wife.

719
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<v Speaker 2>And that's just not something that I would ever do.

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<v Speaker 2>I would never risk this woman's you know, honor, because

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00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:14.079
<v Speaker 2>she's a decent, decent, loving wife, person, friend, mom, you

722
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.719
<v Speaker 2>know daughter. I would never do it to her, and

723
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 2>hence why we still remain married. And Monday, the deposition date,

724
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 2>happens to be my twenty ninth anniversary, so I'm sure

725
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.440
<v Speaker 2>that's going to bring me some additional up. But I

726
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:31.360
<v Speaker 2>would never put her and in harm's way. And they

727
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.880
<v Speaker 2>knew that, they knew that my family is my Achilles heel,

728
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:38.920
<v Speaker 2>and they went right for it. And I try, really,

729
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:43.320
<v Speaker 2>really try hard to hold it all back. But I

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00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.800
<v Speaker 2>have a funny feeling that there may be a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of events that will get picked up by the news,

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<v Speaker 2>but it makes no difference. The only thing ben depending

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<v Speaker 2>upon when I have to start for you know, my testimony,

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<v Speaker 2>we may have to push the beat down back in

735
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<v Speaker 2>hour or two so that we can do this live

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<v Speaker 2>together and I can give you the news of the

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<v Speaker 2>day and what transpired while I was sitting there on

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<v Speaker 2>the witness stand.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the brigaders will understand that delay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Let me ask you the deposition that you

741
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<v Speaker 1>have scheduled to take Trump's deposition on Monday, October ninth.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you, at this point, as of the date of

743
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<v Speaker 1>this recording, we're live October fifth, so we're four days away,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think Donald Trump shows up or do you

745
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:44.840
<v Speaker 1>think ultimately he's going to be too cowardly to and

746
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<v Speaker 1>come up with some excuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, great question, Ben, one that's been posed to me

748
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:56.360
<v Speaker 2>by a multitude of journalists out there. At this point

749
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:59.920
<v Speaker 2>in time, I have no idea. So far, everything appears

750
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.119
<v Speaker 2>to be a go. We have the location already set,

751
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, we intend to be there. I believe that

752
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:14.639
<v Speaker 2>his mind changes second by second, minute by minute, hour

753
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:18.639
<v Speaker 2>by by hour, right and day by day. So right

754
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:21.880
<v Speaker 2>now today he may be saying, yeah, I'm going, I'm going,

755
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:26.320
<v Speaker 2>fuck Coeing, fuck his lawyers, I'm going. All right. Then

756
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:29.400
<v Speaker 2>it could be Sunday night and he says, you know what,

757
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.079
<v Speaker 2>fuck it, I'm not going. I'll tell you one thing

758
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:36.400
<v Speaker 2>for sure, so my legal team, and so thanks to

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00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:40.239
<v Speaker 2>so many of you for continuing to contribute to the

760
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.480
<v Speaker 2>fund to go fund me on this because this is

761
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:46.519
<v Speaker 2>what's helping to pay for the legal fees. And I

762
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:49.800
<v Speaker 2>have great, great lawyers. I mean when I tell you great,

763
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about fantastic, top, top notch, A class lawyers.

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<v Speaker 2>Donia Perry as an example, she is already We've been

765
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<v Speaker 2>speaking for hours, which is why I look a little tired.

766
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<v Speaker 2>We've been speaking for hours about the questions that they

767
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<v Speaker 2>intend to pose to Donald at this deposition. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>speaking to Ben Brodsky, my attorney down there in Florida,

769
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<v Speaker 2>because we're all working together, Donya's entire team, Lillian Alex

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<v Speaker 2>and so on, everybody. We are all on this in

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<v Speaker 2>order to ensure that if he shows up to this deposition,

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<v Speaker 2>that this deposition is going, it's going to elicit the

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<v Speaker 2>answers that we know that certainly do not benefit him.

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<v Speaker 2>That these are going to be really the right questions.

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00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:46.199
<v Speaker 2>It's not designed to embarrass him. It's not designed to

776
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<v Speaker 2>humiliate him. That was come with the fact that he

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<v Speaker 2>happens to Donald Trump. But what these questions do is

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<v Speaker 2>that they lay out the formula that we then intend

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<v Speaker 2>to use within which to dismiss the case that he

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00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:06.559
<v Speaker 2>frivolously brought. That's the goal, and I believe based on

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00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.039
<v Speaker 2>the questions that where we have so far, and there's

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00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:13.320
<v Speaker 2>many more to come, I believe that it will you

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<v Speaker 2>accomplish exactly that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're all looking forward to that, and you'll keep

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<v Speaker 1>us up to date if there's any breaking news. You

786
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and I are going to start doing some more breaking

787
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:30.320
<v Speaker 1>news hot takes like we did yesterday when you first

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<v Speaker 1>found out that Donald Trump fled the jurisdiction of New

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00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:36.039
<v Speaker 1>York when he said he was going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned this before, but I'll mention there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>flurry of motions right before we went live that Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and his lawyers had filed in the New York

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<v Speaker 1>a g case. He filed that motion to stay the

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00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:58.199
<v Speaker 1>current trial that's taking place while he appeals. The partial

795
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:03.639
<v Speaker 1>summary judgment was granted by Judging Goron, resulting in the

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<v Speaker 1>dissolution of the Trump organization and cancelation of the LLCs. Recall,

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00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Judging Goron made that ruling back on September twenty sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are a competent lawyer on September twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>the morning that's when you file your motion to stay

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<v Speaker 1>and what you would have argued to the Court of

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<v Speaker 1>Appeals as well. Now that the trial court judge has

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<v Speaker 1>ordered the dissolution of the Trump organization, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that and then let's deal with the damages

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<v Speaker 1>after the dissolution issue. But they waited until day four

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<v Speaker 1>of the trial to even contemplate bringing the motion to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got Alena Habba there with her gamer laptop.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got this like laptop that like gamers use there

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like looking so confused there, not knowing what

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing. Again the c team right there, you have

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's lawyers, in addition to that, filing a motion

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<v Speaker 1>to dismiss the indictment brought by Special Counsel Jack Smith

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<v Speaker 1>in the Washington d c. Case for Trump's effort to

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<v Speaker 1>overthrow the twenty twenty election. Trump citees presidential immunity there,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that former presidents cannot have criminal charges against them

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And somehow Donald Trump believes that if the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate acquitted him of the second impeachment, that that immunizes him,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just simply not the case. Donald Trump filed

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<v Speaker 1>a motion to dismiss the indictment in the Manhattan District

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney case, a motion to stay is forthcoming in the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Attorney General case, and he filed a motion

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<v Speaker 1>to delay the federal case in the Southern District of

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<v Speaker 1>Florida before Judge Eileen Cannon for the reasons I described

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in the show, trying to delay that until the

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<v Speaker 1>end of November twenty twenty four. He brought all of

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<v Speaker 1>these in a day, and brought him at really strange

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<v Speaker 1>time to even bring them in, like not when competent

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<v Speaker 1>counsel would bring that. But while all of this is

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<v Speaker 1>going on, while we know that Donald Trump now shared

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear secrets with a foreigner that could have devastating consequences,

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<v Speaker 1>we shared that breaking news here. The Magga Republicans in

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<v Speaker 1>Congress are inviting Donald Trump to show up on Capitol

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<v Speaker 1>Hill the situs of an insurrection that Donald Trump led,

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<v Speaker 1>so he can rally them and find either a new

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<v Speaker 1>Speaker of the House or in his own mind, even

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<v Speaker 1>though he's disqualified based on being indicted from becoming Speaker

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<v Speaker 1>of the House, that they could anoint him speaker despite

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<v Speaker 1>the indictments and then that's who the mag Republicans are.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me show you these two clips, Cohen, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's the Magga Republicans are in total disarray, and here

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<v Speaker 1>you have Magga Republican Senator Mullen saying these things about

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Gates. Play any of the clips. Play the first clip.

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<v Speaker 6>You got to think about this guy. This is a

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<v Speaker 6>guy that didn't have that the media didn't give a

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<v Speaker 6>time a day to after he was accused of sleeping

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<v Speaker 6>with an underage girl. And there's a reason why no

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<v Speaker 6>one and the conference came defended him because we had

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<v Speaker 6>all seen the videos he was showing on the house

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<v Speaker 6>floor that all of us had walked away of the

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<v Speaker 6>girls that he had slept with. He'd brag about how

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<v Speaker 6>he would crush ed medicine and and chase it with

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<v Speaker 6>with an energy drink so he could go all night.

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<v Speaker 6>This is obviously before you got married. And so when

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<v Speaker 6>that accusation came out, no one defended him, and then

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<v Speaker 6>no one on the media would give him a time

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<v Speaker 6>of the day. All of a sudden, he found fame

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<v Speaker 6>because he opposed the Speaker of the House back in November,

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<v Speaker 6>and he's always stayed there, and he's not He was

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<v Speaker 6>never going to leave until he got this last moment

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<v Speaker 6>of fame by saying by by going after a motion

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<v Speaker 6>to vacate.

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<v Speaker 5>It's important to know, Congressman Gates has never been charged

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<v Speaker 5>with any sex trafficking.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a clips like that. But Cohen, just to

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<v Speaker 1>be clear, as I understand, you have a Maga Republican

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<v Speaker 1>senator saying that he and all the other MAGA Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>were aware that Matt Gates was snorting ed medication and

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<v Speaker 1>showing sex photos to them on the House floor. They

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<v Speaker 1>covered up apparently his behavior. If you just take that

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<v Speaker 1>Maga Republican senator at his word when he was in

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<v Speaker 1>the House of Representatives and now they're saying that about

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Gates. This is who the Maga Republicans are. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>while we're trying to get things done for the American people,

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<v Speaker 1>while Democrats are talking about bipartisanship and lowering prescription drug

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<v Speaker 1>prices and helping seniors and helping students and helping vets,

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<v Speaker 1>the Magga Republicans are snorting a rectile dysfunction medication on

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<v Speaker 1>the House floor and showing sex photos.

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<v Speaker 2>To each other. But Let's be fair. Matt Gates is

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<v Speaker 2>a unique scumbag, all right, and it's actually Matt Gates

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<v Speaker 2>who gets the two finger fucking salute for the day.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, he fucked up the whole country with

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<v Speaker 2>this bullshit with McCarthy. Now, I am no Kevin McCarthy fan,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you. However, in another forty three

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<v Speaker 2>days there's another potential shutdown. We don't even have a speaker,

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<v Speaker 2>and so nothing is going to get accomplished. Nothing is

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<v Speaker 2>going to get done. At least we know the devil

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<v Speaker 2>that was sitting in that chair. And what did McCarthy do.

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<v Speaker 2>In all fairness, McCarthy went ahead and he did the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing for America, right, very much like what happened

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<v Speaker 2>with Liz Cheney. She was doing the right thing for America,

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<v Speaker 2>not the right thing for this wackadodal chaos caucus. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Gates appears to be the leader of this chaos caucus.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, he has now surpassed I guess popularity over

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<v Speaker 2>Marjorie Toilet Green or Lauren Boubert. Right with with all

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<v Speaker 2>of the non sense in the craziness, what he is

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<v Speaker 2>doing is making a mockery Now Kevin McCarthy asked for

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<v Speaker 2>it because in order to get to the seat going

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<v Speaker 2>back after the fifteen times that he was unable to

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<v Speaker 2>obtain enough votes, he made promises to everybody across the board,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of them wanted these promises to be kept. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Gates is obviously one of them, used that we'll

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<v Speaker 2>call it achilles heel in order to get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>McCarthy managed to get these, you know, these seven additional

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans to do his bidding, and boom, the guy is out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is truly stupid. We know it's stupid

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<v Speaker 2>because it's the first time in history that it's ever happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course it's orchestrated by the biggest asshole of them.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right. I have my own personal issues with Matt Gates,

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<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that he apologized, even though I ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>learned that it wasn't his apology. It was actually written

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<v Speaker 2>by Sean Hannity, going back to when he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>accuse me the night before that he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>come out and say things about me which were untrue

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<v Speaker 2>that would affect my marriage to my wife or my

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with my in laws, which is stellar obviously a lie.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy fucking apologizes for it. You know, I really

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<v Speaker 2>hoped that after Trump left that Matt Gates would become

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<v Speaker 2>a man. He's now sitting in a position where he

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be an adult. He is not. He's still

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<v Speaker 2>the same reckless, you know, buffoon that he was under

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and for fucking up America, for fucking up the

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<v Speaker 2>house right now so that we don't have a speaker

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<v Speaker 2>of the house. Hey, Matt, there you go, buddy, two

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<v Speaker 2>fingers salute to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave it on the two finger salute right there again.

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<v Speaker 1>As we talked about what was going on in the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Attorney General civil case that Donald Trump led,

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<v Speaker 1>learning the breaking news that was first reported by ABC

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<v Speaker 1>that Donald Trump was sharing nuclear secrets to a foreigner

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<v Speaker 1>at the Marri a Lago Club about America's nuclear submarine capabilities,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the foreigner then shared it with multiple other people.

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<v Speaker 1>Special Counsel Jack Smith in the FBI have been interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>that foreign individual who has provided all of the relevant information,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jacksmith in the FBI have the text messages and

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<v Speaker 1>emails as well. Time to do the after show, Michael Cowen,

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<v Speaker 1>these maga Republicans are doing right now. Once again, the

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<v Speaker 1>title is Revenge by Michael Cohen. I want to thank

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