WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:02.799 Welcome to the Big Blue and Sider Dick Gabriel with 2 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:05.960 you on a Tuesday edition of our program. And this 3 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:09.599 is a weird, weird week after a game that should 4 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:11.720 have seen the Wildcats four and two. Now they're three 5 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:15.359 and three at the loss to Vanderbilt, heading down to Florida, 6 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:19.440 and so we will probably talk more in the next 7 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:23.839 forty eight to seventy two hours about Vandy unfortunately, then Florida. 8 00:00:23.879 --> 00:00:26.879 That's why it works, seems like we talk more about 9 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:30.280 the losses than the wins and looking ahead. But it 10 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:33.479 was just so bizarre. You've heard Mark Stoops talk about it. 11 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:35.960 We're going to talk about it tonight with John Hale 12 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:39.320 of The Hair of Leader, and we'll hear a little 13 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:45.600 bit from John Wong, Wong's Whinings blogger who covers the Wildcats. 14 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:49.079 Also talk Kentucky basketball. My buddy Mike Sappo's coming up, 15 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:52.039 a UK basketball super fan, and we call him a 16 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:54.520 New York City Bureau chief because he lives in New York. 17 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:56.759 We're going to ask him about the Karl Anthony Towns 18 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:01.920 Julius Randall trade. But it's just so odd to see 19 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:05.400 this team excel both against Georgia and Ole Miss and 20 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:09.159 then flop against Vanderbilt. Played well, but you know the 21 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:12.760 story about all the penalties. So it's just it's just 22 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:15.560 been a weird season so far, going back to the 23 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:18.719 terrible loss to South Carolina. Now you know about Mark 24 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:23.640 Stoop's record of late in SEC games, in home games, 25 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:30.480 in games after buys and Brett McMurphy on Twitter tweeted 26 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:35.400 this records in the last thirteen games for the following coaches, 27 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:40.400 Mac Brown of North Carolina, Sunny Dykes of TCU. These 28 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:43.599 are big name coaches. Hugh Freese at Auburn, which is 29 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:47.159 not a great team, Lance Lightpol at Kansas, who has 30 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:49.840 led to Jayhawks to back to back Bowl games, has 31 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:53.439 a huge contract now, Billy Napier at Florida coming up, 32 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:59.640 Lincoln Riley Southern col Dion Sanders Colorado, Scott Saderfield. Say 33 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:02.000 what you will about him at Louisville, but now he's 34 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.799 at Cincinnati, and of course Mark Stoops. They're all in 35 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:08.439 their last thirteen games five and eight, every one of 36 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:11.479 these guys five and eight. I don't know if that 37 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:15.400 says more about the portal and the NIL or scheduling, 38 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:18.919 or I don't know what it says, but it's just weird, 39 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:25.039 and it seems like anymore now there's more parody, and 40 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.919 again with players on the move, we shouldn't be surprised 41 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.400 at anything that happens. I honestly thought Ohio State would 42 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:35.479 go out and clobber Oregon. But Oregon beat the Buckeyes. 43 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:39.560 And by the way, if you're following that story, and 44 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:44.520 it's a great one, Oregon, with some chicanery at the end, 45 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:48.400 ran a twelfth man onto the field. Jepikoro was talking 46 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:50.319 about this, and of course, being an Ohio State fan, 47 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:54.400 he would But there were twelve seconds left. Oregon's up 48 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:56.599 thirty two to thirty one. Ohio State's got time for 49 00:02:56.680 --> 00:03:01.199 a couple of plays trying to drive to field goal range, 50 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:05.560 and in that final drive, Oregon runs a twelfth man 51 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:09.280 onto the field, and Dan Lanning, the coach, confirmed that 52 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:13.479 was intentional. They called time out and then at the 53 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:17.120 last second ran another defensive back on the field that 54 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:21.319 forced the Ohio State quarterback to throw in the other 55 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:25.520 direction to a guy who was covered by another corner incomplete. 56 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:29.360 Four seconds run off the clock and now flags fly right. 57 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:35.879 So Ohio State gets five yards but loses four seconds 58 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:40.360 essentially loses a play. Now, I guess there were ten 59 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:44.000 seconds left. Now there's only six seconds left, and you 60 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:47.400 may have seen the video, but Will Howard the quarterback 61 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:53.439 takes off running and slides as the clock expires, and 62 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:58.960 that was it Ohio State with no shot. This was brilliant. 63 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:01.840 This was bending rules. Are breaking them if you will 64 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:07.280 to make it work for you. Reason being it was 65 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:10.360 a penalty called during a live play. There was no runoff. 66 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:13.520 I gotta think that's going to lead to a change 67 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:18.800 in the way the rules are executed because it helped 68 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:24.279 or again by breaking a rule. And as Lanning said, 69 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:27.680 we practice a lot of situations like this. Some of 70 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:32.680 them never come up, and some do. But that was 71 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:35.759 a brilliant piece of trickery. Ohio State's still in the 72 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:40.160 running for a national title, may win it yet, but 73 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:43.759 that was actually pretty cool when you think about it, 74 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:47.319 and a shutdown in my theory that Ohio State was 75 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:51.079 going to win and win big. As for Kentucky, look, 76 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:53.279 Vandy's better than it has been in the past. It's 77 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:57.160 already proven that, but I think Kentucky's better And Stoop's 78 00:04:57.199 --> 00:04:59.759 talked about this at his news conference on the radio 79 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:02.680 lapp night if not for its own mistakes, I think 80 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:06.240 Kentucky I say it, he didn't, but Kentucky wins that game. 81 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:10.160 But Kentucky's not good enough this team, in particular to 82 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:13.639 overcome all the mistakes. They could overcome some of them. 83 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:17.560 Van the overcame penalties and mistakes and won the game. 84 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:20.079 Kentucky just made more mistakes. 85 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:23.199 As far as we go, you know, there's a very 86 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:27.959 thin line between success and failure, and you know, we 87 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:33.639 are definitely shooting ourselves in the foot in a game 88 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:38.079 like that where you have seven possessions. I think we 89 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:43.600 all myself, including during the game and certainly the last 90 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:47.439 time I spoke with you, you feel the frustration, you 91 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:53.120 feel you know so many motions, and then you look 92 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.199 at it and you look at that then line that 93 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:59.199 I'm talking about. It's crazy because you feel like offensively, 94 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:03.000 you know we're falling short, and we are, but it's like, 95 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:07.279 you know, you look at the seven possessions and we 96 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:10.639 have it in our hands with every opportunity to score 97 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:11.160 on five. 98 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:14.120 And that's what drove me nuts. Every time they got 99 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:15.879 the ball at that and it looked like they were 100 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.439 going to score on every possession and they did on 101 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:22.920 what three, but should have scored a lot more. You know, 102 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:25.519 missed out on a TD, then missed out on a 103 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:28.680 field goal. That was a difference in the game. This 104 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:31.560 team's not good enough to make mistakes like that, obviously. 105 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:35.000 And if they play clean, We've said it many many times, 106 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:38.680 play clean football, you got a shot of winning. That's 107 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.319 going to be the case with Florida coming up. So 108 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:43.759 we'll talk more about that as the week goes on. 109 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:47.480 Yankees win last night, Mets win last night. They're one 110 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:50.199 and one with the Dodgers. Yankees lead one. Nothing could 111 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:52.920 be a subway series. What's cool is on this day 112 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:56.319 in history, Kirk Gibson hit that home run for the 113 00:06:56.360 --> 00:07:00.759 Dodgers against the A's in the eight eight World Series. 114 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:03.879 And I'm going to share Vin Scully's call. That's the 115 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:07.279 famous call. It was on TV, but I'm gonna play 116 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:10.120 the radio call as well. I know I'm biased toward radio, 117 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:14.560 but here's Vin Scully's call a Kirk Gibson's historic home run. 118 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:16.920 But the game right now is that the play. 119 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.079 High fine in the right po. 120 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.920 She is gone. And then he does what we call layout, 121 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.160 which means shut up and let the crowd. Let the 122 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:33.199 pictures and the crowd noise tell the story. And he 123 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:36.360 does a great job here in the year that they. 124 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:41.439 Has been sire im prod Liam, impossible has happened. 125 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:45.639 And because that's where you sail. Gibson, who was hurt, 126 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:50.240 could barely run limping to home play being mobbed by 127 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:54.439 his teammates. Well on radio side, Don Drysdale made the 128 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:57.759 call because Scully worked primarily TV at that point. Drysdell 129 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:01.040 worked with a guy named Ross Porter and was Don Drysdale, 130 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:04.920 the former pitching great for LA. He was behind the 131 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:07.680 mic when Kirk Gibson went yard. 132 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:11.240 All the man's on their leading man. If there was 133 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:15.519 ever a prippent the casey at the bat, it would 134 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:16.040 have to. 135 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:20.040 Be the ninth inning true. 136 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:23.839 Out, the dying run a board, the winning run at 137 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:26.959 the place, the bottom of the ninth inning, and good 138 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:29.279 Gibson standing at the place. 139 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:31.759 I'm cutting out a little bit here, but I wanted 140 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:34.080 the casey at the bat reference to be in there. 141 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:36.799 But he talked about how Gibson stepped out kind of 142 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:40.240 playing cat and mouse with Dennis Eckersley, maybe at the time, 143 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:43.759 the pre eminent relief pitcher in the game, and Gibson 144 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:46.399 touches his helmet as he always does, and then they 145 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.879 squared off Anckersley. 146 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:50.840 Working out of this bet. Here's a three two pitch 147 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:55.039 and a drive at the right tail way back this bof. 148 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:04.000 And then Drysdale lays out, and in fact, he lay 149 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:07.600 out longer than Scully did. He shut up for like 150 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:12.440 twenty seven to thirty seconds before he finally jumped back 151 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:14.799 on the mic. I'm sure he just turned his mic 152 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:17.720 off and sat back and watched, and then he finally 153 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:20.399 came back and kind of wrapped up the call in 154 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:21.440 a great, great way. 155 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:28.120 This proud love that out damn coming in the end, 156 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:34.360 and this time Mighty Kase did not strike out. 157 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:36.240 I love both of them, but it's been a while 158 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:39.759 since I heard Don Drysdale with the radio call. Courtesy 159 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:42.759 of the Dodgers Network of Kirk Gibson's home run. I 160 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:46.399 was anchoring twenty seven Sports Spectrum that night, our our 161 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:49.200 magazine show, and I was on the anchored US. We 162 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:52.000 were on the air when that happened. It was so late, 163 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.320 and Kayline shouts, our sports videographer came running downstairs with 164 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:58.080 a script that said, you aren't going to believe this, 165 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.399 and I called the Highlight cold and it was fantastic, 166 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.000 big night for excat Ray Davis. That's next on six 167 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:07.960 thirty Wlap Welcome back to the Big Blue and Sider 168 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:09.879 coming up in a few minutes, John Hale of The 169 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:13.000 Herald Leader. Of course we'll talk Kentucky football with us 170 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.720 our number two. We're gonna talk to Kentucky football and 171 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:21.759 basketball with John Wong, Doctor John Wong, the blogger Wong's Whinings. 172 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:25.320 He's also covering the Bengals and did the double header, 173 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:29.720 actually a triple header over the weekend madness Kentucky football. 174 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.519 Then he flew to New York to cover the Bengals 175 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:34.679 and the Giants. So John's been a busy man. But 176 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:38.039 before we talked to John in our number two, we 177 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:40.720 will also talk to somebody in New York and that's 178 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:44.360 our New York City Bureau chief, Mike Seposnik. He's a podcaster. 179 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:46.639 He goes by Mike Saffoy. He's a really interesting and 180 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.159 entertaining podcast. He is a Kentucky super fan. He's a 181 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:53.639 nut when it comes to UK basketball. Also the Yankees 182 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.960 and the Knicks who now have Karl Anthony Towns and 183 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.399 his real job. Mike is a New York City police officer, 184 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:04.080 but flirting with retirement, flirting with moving to Lexington, but 185 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.639 has been a UK fan since he was a young 186 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:09.360 kid and fell in love with that Kentucky team that 187 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:13.799 nearly upset Duke in the nca Tournament and that by 188 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:17.240 Hooker by Crook. As how he befriended or was befriended 189 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:19.919 by Cameron Mills. It's a long story, but that's how 190 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:22.559 I met Mike through Cameron. So anyhow, Mike's gonna come 191 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:25.240 up with us and talk about the Karl Anthony Towns 192 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:29.639 trade for Julius Randall, another former Wildcat, and we'll get 193 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:33.000 his thoughts on Mark Pope as well. If you stayed 194 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:36.759 up late last night, way late, you may have seen 195 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.000 this one. If not, that's why I'm sharing it because 196 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:42.080 I did not. I heard it and saw it after 197 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:45.639 the fact. But one of the stars of Buffalo's win 198 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:50.200 over to New York Jets and Aaron Rodgers was Ray Davis. 199 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:53.039 I watched the game and it was pretty evident that 200 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:55.440 James Cook, their lead running back, was injured, because Ray 201 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:58.639 Davis got a majority of the carries and had a 202 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:02.360 great game and was one of the big reasons that 203 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:07.879 Buffalo was able to knock off the Jets in the 204 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:10.840 meadowlands of whatever they call it now. But Ray had 205 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:12.720 a heck of a game. A typical game, I might 206 00:12:12.759 --> 00:12:17.080 point out ninety seven yards on twenty carries, but caught 207 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:21.879 three passes for fifty five yards. So you look at it, 208 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:24.679 that's what one hundred and fifty three yards. First rookie 209 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:29.039 to lead the Bills in rushing and receiving yards in 210 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:36.519 the same game since nineteen eighty six. You know his story, Temple, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, 211 00:12:36.679 --> 00:12:41.080 thousand yard rushing each time. His backstory, of course about 212 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:44.600 being part of the foster care system swept up in it. 213 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:50.120 But he merged literally victorious, and now after becoming a 214 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:53.080 fourth round pick of the Bills, had a great game. 215 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:58.399 And afterwards he was the guest interview on site for 216 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:01.879 ESPN Scott Van Pelt, so you can hear what they 217 00:13:01.919 --> 00:13:05.159 call the Bulls Mafia, the equivalent of the BBN, the 218 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:10.240 Bill's mafia in the background. As former Wildcat and Commodore 219 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:15.960 and Owl now Buffalo Bill Ray Davis spoke on ESPN 220 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:17.600 late last night early this morning. 221 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:19.639 There's a saying in any level of sports. 222 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:20.480 Next man up. 223 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:23.759 You were the man tonight to step up. The mentality 224 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:26.200 you brought to this stage tonight, how would you describe it? 225 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:27.759 You know, it was about just again, like you said, 226 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:30.759 next man, not mentality. For me, it was about just maybe, 227 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:31.840 sure I do what I gotta do. 228 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:33.080 We know James is so exposed. 229 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:34.879 He's a great running back, so we knew that we 230 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:36.039 got to still push the needle. 231 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:37.039 We gotta make sure that. 232 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:39.039 We stay in the right position to succeed. 233 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:40.679 And when he got a cast like that. 234 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:43.120 Josh, the offensive line, everybody doing their job. 235 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:44.759 I don't succeed without them. 236 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:48.320 I thought it was interesting from the jump, it was like, 237 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:50.799 let's saddle this young man up and ride, and you 238 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:53.200 come out in that first touchdown drive and Josh said, 239 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:55.080 he stole the touchdown from you. He kind of hawked 240 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:57.080 it in the end right from the one, but it 241 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:58.919 was clear that they were going to put the ball 242 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:01.519 in your hands. How does that to fuel your confidence 243 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:02.559 when they have that much trust? 244 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:04.720 To me, it's about the preparation throughout the week. 245 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:07.039 You know, again, my coaches, you know, coach, skip the 246 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:08.919 guys in a room. Just again, keep my head up, 247 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:10.879 keep my spirits up, telling me and just play my game, 248 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:12.360 understanding that things. 249 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:13.200 May not hit perfectly. 250 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:15.600 But again, as time goes on, those two to three, 251 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:17.960 four or five yard runs gonna turn into big chunks 252 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:18.759 an explosive places. 253 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:20.399 That was about understanding that I don't got to get 254 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.039 the home run right away, right by. 255 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:23.799 Just playing your game and understand it's gonna be a 256 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:25.279 slow grind and they not gonna. 257 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:27.240 Want to tackle them at the end of the night. 258 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:29.440 To get the win, that's the most important. 259 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:31.960 But for you personally to contribute as you did over 260 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:34.720 one hundred and fifty total yards, how do you describe 261 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:37.519 the satisfaction of being able to deliver the way you 262 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:40.159 did under the rightest lights here just outside New York City. 263 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:41.399 You know, it's a great opportunity. 264 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:42.799 You never want to get the opportunity when a guy 265 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:44.200 goes down, right, But at the end of the day, 266 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:45.799 you got to be able to step up. And you know, 267 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.960 I don't want to be complacent and accept what happened today. 268 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:50.039 I want to keep getting better. 269 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:51.679 I want to keep understanding the things I need to 270 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:54.399 get better at I can fix next week or whenever 271 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:56.799 my opportunity comes again. Go out there and just present 272 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:58.039 it the same round presented today. 273 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.639 You're new to this whole scene, but as best as 274 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:04.559 you can describe for me what Bill's Mafia's support is 275 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:07.240 like to come down here. You're far from Western. 276 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:08.240 New York, but you feel right at home. 277 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:10.679 And we got the best fans in the world. I 278 00:15:10.679 --> 00:15:13.600 mean again, they travel, they show up no matter where 279 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:15.879 it is. They understand that being being a part of 280 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.720 the mafia something great, it's special. 281 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:20.240 And they want to say something special. We got some 282 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:24.240 special guys. Ray Davis, who got his degree actually from 283 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:28.960 Vanderbilt and majored in communications, and you heard it. That 284 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:31.799 was a great interview. You can doll and he wants 285 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:35.919 to do this or that, you know, sportscasting, broadcasting when 286 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.200 he's when he's done playing. But that took me back 287 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:43.080 to the first time we got a chance to talk 288 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.960 to Ray when he was a Kentucky Wildcat after he 289 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.159 transferred in in the spring, and he was just I 290 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:53.559 don't want to say mesmerizing, but there are some news 291 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:56.919 conferences when when guys get up and talk, and usually 292 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:01.279 it's a player coaches you expected from And Ray's got 293 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:03.559 these kind of piercing eyes. I think they may be 294 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:08.000 blue but anyhow, he just grabs your attention and was 295 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:14.320 such a gifted speaker and just owned it and said 296 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:18.919 great things including I'm not Benny Snell, I'm not Chris Rodriguez, 297 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:21.840 I'm gonna be Ray Davis. And he basically said, you know, 298 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:24.320 and we'll see what happens. Well, you saw it happen, 299 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:27.159 and the Buffalo Bills saw it as well, and they 300 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:30.559 liked it. But that's what I was thinking on, and 301 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.639 I think his very first game, if I recall, he 302 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:35.720 was our player of the game, so I had a 303 00:16:35.799 --> 00:16:37.559 chance to sit down and talk one on one with 304 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.080 him after the game. I also got to thinking about 305 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:45.399 all the former Kentucky Wildcats who have been a part 306 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:49.639 of the Buffalo Bills, and one of them was a 307 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:51.919 guy you might not know the name. If you've been 308 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.919 watching Kentucky football for a while, you know this one, 309 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:59.879 but Willie Grant Willy was a center. We went by 310 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:02.879 will here. I guess his buddy's called him Willie. But 311 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:09.319 he was a center and played behind David Hopewell, and 312 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:12.599 David got injured, will went in and basically while he 313 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:14.680 pipped him. I don't know if David could have come 314 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:18.039 back anyway, but Will Grant was so good and David 315 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:23.039 was good too, But Will often clashed with fran Cursey 316 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:27.000 and that's why he didn't get as much clock as 317 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:29.920 he might have early. But he went on to a 318 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:33.960 long career with the Bills. Spent eight years in Buffalo, 319 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:37.119 then spent the nineteen eighty six season in Seattle with 320 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:41.359 the Seahawks, came back played his last year with the Bills. 321 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:44.279 This was after being a tenth round draft pick in 322 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:47.279 nineteen seventy eight, and from his third year on he 323 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:54.240 started played between Reggie McKenzie and Conrad Dobler. How about 324 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:58.200 that for some names. But he was a starter for 325 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:03.400 five years and really good player. But Kentucky fans, you know, 326 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:06.079 you don't hear much about guys who played the old 327 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:09.039 line back in the late seventies and early eighties year 328 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:12.319 But Art still Art played for Buffalo after he played 329 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:16.920 in Kansas City. But Mike Edwards is playing for the 330 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:20.519 Bills right now. I wasn't aware of that. And who 331 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:26.839 else played for Buffalo? Herv Goodie from Newport, Kentucky played 332 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:30.200 for the Wildcats back in the sixties and had a 333 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:34.039 long NFL career. Played for the Cardinals for doing eleven 334 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:36.720 or twelve years, spent a year in Buffalo, finished up 335 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:39.720 with the Miami Dolphins. I was not on there. Yeah, 336 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.079 he was actually on their Super Bowl team super Bowl eight. 337 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:45.000 So you know there have been Wildcats who have gone 338 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.400 on to Buffalo and done good things. And Ray Davis, 339 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:51.480 who looks like is on his way when we come back. 340 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:54.359 John Halo the Hero Leader here on six thirty WAP, 341 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:56.839 welcome back to the Big Bluing Sider, joining us now 342 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:58.720 as a longtime friend of the show and a veteran 343 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:02.200 of the UKB John the Herald Leader and John, I 344 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:06.039 guess people have scratched their heads now for seventy two hours. 345 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:10.319 How in the world can this happen to a Kentucky team? 346 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:12.319 And I don't know if we're any closer to having 347 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:14.880 answers than we were in the past. What do you think? 348 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.799 No, it's it's confusing for sure. I will say when 349 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:20.960 I left, when I was leaving Oxford after that Ole 350 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:23.960 Miss game, I said to a couple of people, They're 351 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:26.720 gonna lose to Vanderbilt now, like that would be the 352 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.039 most Kentucky thing ever. But I had talked myself out 353 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:31.559 of that scenario based on the way the buye we 354 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:34.279 played out when that when Vanderbilt beats Alabama, when they're 355 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:36.319 getting a week full of attention and everybody in the 356 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:39.160 national media is there's the Darlings and Diego Poppy and 357 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:42.759 all that. Okay, well, now there's no chance that Kentucky's 358 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:44.279 going to have a letdown. They're going to use all 359 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:46.400 that as motivation. They're going to say, we just beat 360 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:48.759 a top ten team and everybody already forgot about us. 361 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:51.599 And then to come out the way they played, to 362 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:54.079 see so many of those same issues from the South 363 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:57.680 Carolina performance hot back up, it just felt like this 364 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:02.680 team cannot deal with success. I mean from Dayton like, 365 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:05.400 even when they played well in Georgia and they played 366 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:07.960 well and they wanted Ole miss and they live out Ohio, 367 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:10.200 all of that was built off the back of like 368 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:13.519 proving that that South Carolina game was a fluke and 369 00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:16.039 everybody who said their season was over over wrong. But 370 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:17.720 then as soon as it got to the point where 371 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:20.880 everybody was back on the bandwagon, it feels like they 372 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.279 just reverted back to all those bad habits, which is 373 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:27.359 a very concerning trend for Mark Soups in this program. 374 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:29.039 Given the way the last couple of seasons. 375 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:31.759 Gone to me, What was even more maddening, John, was 376 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:35.079 that when you subtract the penalties, as you can do post, 377 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:39.119 they played fairly well. They moved the ball on offense 378 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:42.000 and they protected it. They only gave up twenty to 379 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:46.000 a team that scored forty on Alabama, Diego Pavia hit 380 00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:47.880 him for a couple of big plays, but they did 381 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:51.599 a decent job containing him. That just added to the frustration, 382 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:52.200 didn't it. 383 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:53.039 Yeah. 384 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:55.680 Absolutely. I mean, even like if you only take the 385 00:20:55.720 --> 00:20:57.720 one possison where they got down to the sixth inch 386 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:00.559 line or whatever, and you get a touchdown there, it's 387 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:02.200 a tie game at the end of the game, and 388 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:05.079 so then you leave four points off the board in 389 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:07.119 terms of you mess up the field goal there and 390 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:09.519 then you miss an extra point. If you get those 391 00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:12.799 four points, then you're only playing the last possession, is 392 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:14.680 totally different because you're just trying in the field goal 393 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:17.599 range at very least, and so like, it was just 394 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:19.480 so close to going the other way. I mean, it 395 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:21.759 did feel like they were out playing bank about much 396 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:23.880 of it other than their self inflected mistakes. But at 397 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:26.519 this point through six games, like that is a trend. 398 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:28.359 I know, they keep bringing up the idea of like 399 00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:30.480 they were the least penalized team in the SEC going 400 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:32.279 into it, which is true, and we saw in that 401 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:34.680