WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.839 --> 00:00:13.480 Get ready. 2 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:15.359 December tenth, twenty twenty five. 3 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:17.879 Allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar, this 4 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:20.199 the show is live and we're not doing too many 5 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:23.960 live ones this week due to me trying to get 6 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:27.239 back into the swing of things. But don't worry, we 7 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:30.359 will return to full schedule. And while we do have 8 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:33.439 this downtime, let's get to high quality. Who do I mean, 9 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:38.200 Larry Hancock author? You know, author I don't even know? 10 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:41.399 Extored and air would that be the right word? Every 11 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:42.600 single book. 12 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:45.159 That Larry has released on my shelf and now I 13 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:48.079 even got the update that someone would have talked, which 14 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:50.280 I didn't have in my collection for a while, but 15 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:54.079 I picked that up recently. And I am looking forward 16 00:00:54.079 --> 00:01:00.560 to an addendum to the Oswald Puzzle coming uh sometime 17 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:02.520 in January recording to Amazon, I guess. 18 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:05.799 But pre orders are available now. 19 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.480 Okay, so we may have a little bit of a 20 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:10.519 sound issue where things are gonna come a little up, 21 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:14.079 a little down. Hopefully I will equalize it during the discussion. 22 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:18.319 But larrydashhandcock dot com is the way to go if 23 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:20.480 you want to keep track of what Larry's blogging about, 24 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:22.799 et cetera, et cetera. And oh, by the way, you 25 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:26.000 might think I'm gonna talk Oswald here, or maybe we'll 26 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:31.319 talk Christmas and the Christmas spirit. No, we're actually gonna 27 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:34.560 talk current events in a way, but also give you 28 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:38.239 a little history as we do. And why well that 29 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:40.120 might be because of that word context. 30 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:42.599 Larry. First of all, how you doing tonight? 31 00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:47.959 I'm doing fine, Chuck. I'm actually we have Christmas decorations 32 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:52.280 up and kind of ahead of schedule, so I feel 33 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:53.200 better than usual. 34 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:55.120 We're going forward with Christmas. 35 00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:59.239 Ah, So your Christmas was not canceled, that's for sure, 36 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:00.400 and I'm. 37 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:01.000 Glad to hear it. 38 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:04.280 But look, there is a lot going on in the 39 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:08.560 international politics currently, and usually you and I talk about 40 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:12.800 historical stuff, but we need to frame some history around 41 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:17.000 something that's happening now. Look, I haven't said much about 42 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:20.159 the drug boats and all this other stuff because you know, 43 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:21.599 I've been out of commission. 44 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:21.520 For a bit. 45 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:25.960 But frankly, I've got a lot to say because I 46 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:30.039 see a much larger program going on here than the 47 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:34.479 outrage media or the you know, raw raw cheerleader media 48 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:37.439 is doing on the right or the left. It looks 49 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:41.879 to me like something much larger is being implemented and 50 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:45.639 activated right before our eyes, and I think people are 51 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:50.680 missing some of the boats skews the pun. You know, Larry, 52 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:55.039 you have an idea about some of these things because 53 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:59.120 of your expertise and knowing how the national security state functions, 54 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:03.039 having an understanding at least in the basic sets of 55 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:06.479 how the military functions. But we are in kind of 56 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:10.719 a new age, which means things might be multifaceted and 57 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:15.560 universally directional when it comes to implementing these things. 58 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:18.280 Right, So what are we talking about tonight? 59 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:23.000 What we're talking about as an announcement that just came 60 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.479 on the wires a couple of hours ago, which is 61 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:30.000 the fact that the United States seized a very large 62 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:35.199 oil tanker off Venezuela. And my first reaction of that 63 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:40.000 was good, gracious, we've dropped back seventy plus years and 64 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:49.879 we're back to you know, President Eisenhower ordering a baid, 65 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:55.080 you know, and yeah, this sort of thing has happened before. 66 00:03:56.039 --> 00:04:01.719 As you say, though, check the context is it's different 67 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:08.599 when when President Eisenhower did to watch regime change against 68 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:13.520 the Arbens regime, you know, it was a it was 69 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:20.839 a popularly elected president. Uh, the country was internally pretty stable. 70 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:25.519 It was populist, it was socialist leading, and we didn't 71 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:27.399 really like their politics. 72 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:27.199 You know. 73 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:31.360 It was just part of the US against communist expansion 74 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:34.240 thing and that, and that's what it was. 75 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:38.519 It's real straightforward. And and Eisenhower ordered two things. 76 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:42.120 He ordered military intervention to the extent of putting a 77 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:44.240 block aid. 78 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:51.600 Right, okay, Larry, Larry, we're having a little trouble with 79 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:56.399 the teams. Hold on a second, Larry, you know, Larry, right, 80 00:04:56.839 --> 00:04:57.480 Oh boy. 81 00:04:57.759 --> 00:04:59.480 We're having a little I'm still here testing. 82 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:03.480 We're having a little trouble with the team's connection. So 83 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:05.759 you know what, I'm going to take a break here 84 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:10.439 and bring us into another venue. I'm gonna give you 85 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.040 a link and we'll go to another venue to talk 86 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:16.040 because teams is breaking down. It sounded good before we 87 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.199 went to air, but now it's breaking down pretty bad. 88 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:21.920 So I want to make sure people get this. And 89 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:23.879 we got to rewind now and go back to the 90 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:27.240 context of Eisenhower and what he did and how we 91 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:30.480 might judge it differently when we return, Larry, and I'll 92 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.759 get you at link and you guys listening, if you're 93 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:34.160 hearing it live or on podcast. 94 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:36.720 I'm gonna leave this intact anyway. You just hang out. 95 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:40.319 I'll get you at LAK all right, I'll look for 96 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:42.800 the link. There you go, and you guys listening, hold on. 97 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:44.920 I'll play a couple of spots and fix this up 98 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.040 so we can hear what Larry's saying. I hate this 99 00:05:48.160 --> 00:07:16.560 team's I really do. 100 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:19.639 Do you like history? 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Are they coming near 145 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:35.600 the shore? But that's not what we're talking about here. 146 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:39.200 And yeah, you were talking about Eisenhower and his actions 147 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:42.519 and the things that occurred in some of the Central 148 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:46.120 and South American countries. That's as far as I got 149 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:48.720 and then things broke up, So Larry please continue. 150 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:53.480 Yeah, I think you have to step back and say, 151 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:57.600 there are two things that are being talked about in 152 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:02.519 the news today. One is the president keeps talking about 153 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:06.759 he wants regime change, which is is a very outspoken statement. 154 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:09.399 You know, you weren't going to find that back in 155 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:12.840 the fifties or sixties. The president is not going to 156 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:15.320 constantly go to the media and say I want to 157 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:19.879 change you know, the elected government in another country. We 158 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.639 just didn't used to do that. Different nowadays, he's saying 159 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:26.879 that almost every day. In terms of he wants to 160 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:28.879 outstay president. 161 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:31.080 Diplomatic. 162 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.519 You know, you can argue whether he's elected correctly or 163 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:38.360 not collected, but he's his position is the US is 164 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:42.360 now has the assumed the authority of the president being 165 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:45.720 literally able to say I want to change the foreign government. 166 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:46.960 That's very different. 167 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:49.879 Eisenhower would not have said that. Now. That doesn't mean 168 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.480 Eisenhower would not have tried to do that, which he 169 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:56.720 did do repeatedly. And Chuckie and I both know that's 170 00:11:57.120 --> 00:12:00.120 what shadow warfare is all about. So it's not that 171 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:03.639 we didn't do regime change or attempt regime change before. 172 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:06.320 We were just not kind of like in your face 173 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:07.519 about regime change. 174 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.720 Well, right, it was part of the strategy. 175 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:11.360 Well, Larry, hang on a second, it was part of 176 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.639 the strategy at one point to keep it hidden or 177 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:18.159 to keep it keep the public guessing, so to speak, 178 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:22.879 wall guess what the secret agenda would be implemented, regardless 179 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.360 of what the President said, regardless of what the Congress said, 180 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:30.159 regardless of what was on the surface. This is almost, 181 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:34.159 I dare say a little more of an honest approach, 182 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:37.080 where it's like there is no mystery about the current 183 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:41.279 administration and what regimes they are supporting, and what regimes 184 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:42.440 they'd like to see changed. 185 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:46.480 They seem pretty upfront about it. But then again, could 186 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:47.039 that be a. 187 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:50.600 You know, a double reversal strategy, right where you pretend 188 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:52.759 to support somebody and at some point you pull the 189 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:56.600 rug out. Anyway, it's keeping everybody guessing. It's almost like, 190 00:12:57.200 --> 00:12:59.720 I don't know, the reboot of the Nixon madman theory, 191 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:02.480 what will you do next? We're not sure regardless of 192 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:05.639 what he says. And that's what it really came down to. Well, 193 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:08.600 that and the terror bombing of Cambodia and et cetera. 194 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.840 But you know, put that aside because we're back to 195 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:14.480 talking about the stuff that Eisenhower was definitely involved in. 196 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:19.320 So yeah, please proceed, But it's the public face versus 197 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.919 what we would have done anyway. Yeah, it really hasn't 198 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:25.200 changed in my mind, it's just a matter of what 199 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:27.240 we're being told has changed. 200 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:28.440 Am I wrong about that? 201 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:34.159 Yeah, it's a style change plus I guess the other 202 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:39.759 thing is it's a style change plus it. You know, 203 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:45.039 basically it is riskier in a sense because you are 204 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:47.159 risking the people that you're going to send out to 205 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:49.960 do it, because you telegraphed your intention. 206 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:57.600 Before, there was some caution. You know, it's like orational sory. 207 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:01.120 I don't risk people by telling the guys what I'm 208 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:03.200 going to do to them in advance, you know. And 209 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:06.200 and when the President Trump says we're going to do 210 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:10.399 ground strikes, you know immediately, well, you've got to understand 211 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.519 that folks that you're going to do ground strikes against 212 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:17.120 are going to watch for coming and you may lose 213 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:20.000 more people because of that. So part of it, part 214 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:23.159 of its style, part of it is being in your 215 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:32.200 face about what you're going to do. But there's certainly 216 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:36.240 there was a little more President and Ra was concerned 217 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:40.679 about things like operational security. President Trump obviously doesn't understand 218 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:44.759 it or is not concerned about it. So there's there's 219 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:46.960 a difference in style, but there's also a difference in 220 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:57.080 method The other big difference is rained. Then Trump is, well, 221 00:14:57.120 --> 00:14:58.759 I just blockade. 222 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:00.960 Okay, hang on a second, on a second, I missed 223 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:04.519 the difference in the methodology there. I know you're bringing 224 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:07.759 up the blockade here, and that is a difference in 225 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:11.600 methodology aside from the covert actions that took place before. 226 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:15.879 But yeah, give us another run at that difference in methodology. 227 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:21.799 Please, Well, I've got to get through about three steps 228 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:22.000 of it. 229 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:28.360 And the point the methodology that Eisenower used is, first, 230 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:32.240 he did use military force. He set up a blockade 231 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:39.360 up around Guatemala and actually stopped everybody ships, allies, adversaries, 232 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:44.200 because the pretext for the blockade was to prevent Soviet 233 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:48.840 block weapons going to the country. I mean, that was 234 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:53.399 straightforward and actually in that sense was much more comprehensive 235 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:59.039 than what President Trump is doing because he was actually 236 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:02.360 seizing ship, holding them, searching them, and letting them go. 237 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:04.519 But it applied to everybody. You know, he was It 238 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:09.519 wasn't sinking anybody's ships. Yeah, you know, he was blockading them. 239 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:12.879 Did one get sunk, that's another story. That's an accident, 240 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:18.080 you know, row CIA officer, whatever. But you know, there 241 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:21.120 was no over violence involved at that point in time. 242 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:25.440 After that, it all became covert and it was all 243 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:34.440 CIA regime change surrogates psychological war And by the way, 244 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:39.320 psychological warfare implies that you're not being in your face, 245 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:41.799 I would say from one of the things that you 246 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:46.559 just said, you can't really you can do. Book threatening 247 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:51.919 is not psychological warfare, you know, telling telling Maduro that 248 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:54.039 you know, we're ousting your regime. 249 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:56.519 That's not that's just, you know, just just a threat. 250 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.440 That's not the way you do psychological warfare with the 251 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:03.320 popular and actually it's one hundred and eighty degrees away 252 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:08.079 from the way you do real psychological warfare. But the 253 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:12.240 third step to this is that President Trump has a 254 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:16.960 series of tools that he can use legally that Iceinower 255 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:21.559 actually did not have. Iceinower would have required going to 256 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:26.279 Congress and getting certain authorities to do what President Trump 257 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:29.480 is doing right now. And this all goes back to 258 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:36.680 the military authorizations that were passed by Congress after the 259 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:42.319 nine to eleven attacks. And basically this set of authorizations 260 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:49.160 allows the president to use military force at his command 261 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:54.599 only with no authorization, no permission, against anybody he declares 262 00:17:55.640 --> 00:18:02.079 is supporting terrorist activities. Okay, now, now step back a step. 263 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:08.599 He's been accusing the Venezuelans of narco terrorism. That's not 264 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:12.160 really what that legislation was passed to address. It was 265 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:17.599 addressed to, you know, it was addressed to go specifically 266 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:24.160 against al Qaeda Iran, those folks that were were getting 267 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:27.640 money and providing support to attacks that could go against 268 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:32.039 the US physical attacks, not drugs. Okay, what was the 269 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:36.359 most interesting thing I saw today was the fact that 270 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:43.160 he is literally using those same authorities to seize a 271 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:49.920 tanker that is owned by a Russian oligarch, part of 272 00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:53.039 Russia's shadow fleet. But it's not really Russia's shadow fleet. 273 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:57.279 It's Russian oligarch's shadow fleets that they used to ship 274 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:03.000 Russian oil Venezuelan oil and do this kind of under 275 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:07.599 the table without regulation. So and the reason this ship 276 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:11.359 itself is sanctioned today was because it was listed back 277 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:15.039 in twenty twenty two as being used to carry oil 278 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:20.119 that was sold to generate funds for Iran, and since 279 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:24.440 Iran is on the terror list, the authorities allow the 280 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:27.799 president to do that. It's just something that would have 281 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:33.240 been impossible back in the Eesnower administration. Those authorities weren't there. 282 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.039 And the fascinating thing is it literally has nothing to 283 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:42.720 do with Venezuela except Venezuela and oil. And so the 284 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:46.720 way I'm reading it at present is we're using the 285 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:55.160 authorities anti terrorist authorities to sanction that oil and we're 286 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.640 going to take it. And the President says, we're just 287 00:19:57.759 --> 00:19:59.880 claiming it. It's now ours we seized it on the 288 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:05.440 high seas because it's sanctioned. And the fascinating thing about 289 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:08.160 that is we could you could apply those He can 290 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:12.079 apply those same authorities wherever he wants to. He's choosing 291 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:16.559 to do it against Venezuela to put more pressure on Venezuela. 292 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:21.200 But in essence, it was not Venezuela. A's all oil. 293 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:24.200 It had been sold. We don't know if it was 294 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:25.400 really going to Iran. 295 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:28.400 We don't know if it was going to China, who's 296 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:32.640 the big consumer of the oil. We don't know. I mean, 297 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:35.079 they may know. The public doesn't know at this point. 298 00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:39.440 But it's kind of a fascinating ramp up of the 299 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:45.119 authorities that and it's going back to these same authorities 300 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.519 that are now it's twenty twenty five. These were passed 301 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:53.240 fifteen years ago, more than fifteen years ago, to use 302 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:53.920 them in an. 303 00:20:54.039 --> 00:20:55.720 Entirely different context. 304 00:20:56.640 --> 00:20:58.599 But one of the things we have to do is 305 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:04.160 Congress has never stepped back to address any of those authorities. 306 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:09.079 And this is part of the evolving a crule of 307 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:14.079 military power to the presidency, where the president is the 308 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:17.759 sole person to make the decision on those authorities and 309 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:21.920 Congress is completely out of the picture. We ran into 310 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:26.960 this situation in Vietnam alluded to that earlier check. Eventually 311 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:30.680 Congress had to take it back and really revoke an 312 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:34.200 authorization that had been given to Johnson, and they took 313 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:36.799 it back from Nixon. But it just kind of shows 314 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:41.000 you how the system can look the same but not 315 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:44.599 be the same. But it's like it keeps going back 316 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:47.160 to this overtime. It's constant. 317 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:49.400 This cons a struggle. 318 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:53.039 Well, I have a question here because based on what 319 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:57.000 you're saying, right, isn't there a ninety day limits on 320 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:00.799 these types of operations? Like isn't there some sort of 321 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:04.440 limitation where at a certain point the president, even though 322 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:08.759 he has the full authority to do XYZ, can only 323 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:11.279 do it so long before having to go back to 324 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:16.599 Congress and saying, either extend my authority or you have 325 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:18.880 to sign off on this for me to continue with 326 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:19.400 this action. 327 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:20.759 Or am I reading that wrong. 328 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:26.759 There was a point in time, back during the quote 329 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:31.119 unquote War on Terror where that was true that he 330 00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:33.920 was supposed to have to go He could he could 331 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.839 conduct a kind of emergency action today, but within a 332 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:40.319 set period of time he had to go back and 333 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:46.200 report to at least the oversight committees and Congress had 334 00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:48.920 to agree that that was the right thing to do. Okay, 335 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:51.319 at least it went back to them, he had to 336 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:55.160 report to them. There was some oversight, still unclear into 337 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:57.599 my I mean, you can't take it back. I mean, 338 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:01.039 that's the thing. If you exercise this and you wait 339 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:04.400 ninety days and Congress says we don't agree with that, 340 00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:07.119 it's done, you know, and they can do another one 341 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:09.759 whenever they want to do another one. So there was 342 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:14.799 some oversight, but in terms of anything meaningful, that was 343 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:19.440 more on the nature of requiring the president to explain 344 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:24.079 his action right, not empowering them, you know, to do it, 345 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:26.799 and they could not say, don't do this again. 346 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:30.640 It was oversight, It wasn't control. 347 00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:34.640 So oversight after the fact as opposed to the ability 348 00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:37.359 to see because I've seen some other people analyzing this saying, 349 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:40.000 at some point he's going to have to go to Congress, 350 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:42.559 but it is unclear to me what he has to 351 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:43.039 do there. 352 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:44.160 And what you're saying is. 353 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:47.000 What it effectively is is Okay, here's the oversight, and 354 00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:49.680 they can criticize it afterwards, but what's done is done, 355 00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:53.240 and there is nothing stopping him from saying, Okay, I 356 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:56.839 got another emergency, and therefore I have to take another action, 357 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:00.319 and the process begins again, and within ninety days Congress 358 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:02.480 has to deal with it with the oversight committees again. 359 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:05.319 And I saw this set and I said to myself, 360 00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:09.240 you know, something doesn't make sense here, But okay, the 361 00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:12.200 way you're explaining it also doesn't make practical sense in 362 00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:14.519 my mind. But at the same time, this is the 363 00:24:14.599 --> 00:24:18.240 way things are. I get it, Okay, I wanted to Yeah, 364 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:19.519 thank you for clearing that up. 365 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:26.279 This is the Trump approach. It's it's pragmatic in a way. 366 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:29.000 I think there are two statements there that are both 367 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:34.920 equally true. Trump has literally declared war against Venezuela, right, 368 00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:38.839 and it's threatened to send troops into Venezuela, you know, 369 00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:42.880 threatened military action. I think what what people are saying 370 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:46.160 is if that really you know, no, he doesn't have 371 00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:49.359 the authority to declare war on his own, and he 372 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:51.839 would have to go to Congress and and he would 373 00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:55.160 have to sell this, oh, it's really war because they're 374 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:58.119 drug running is causing tens of thousands. 375 00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:59.440 Of casual he'd have to sell it. 376 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:02.160 So I think that's what those folks are saying, because 377 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.519 he's been talking that way, you know, like we want 378 00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:08.160 regime change, and if we don't have regime change, you're 379 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:11.960 a threat and we're going to war, We're gonna military action. 380 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:16.640 What happened today is totally different, and that's the fascinating 381 00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:19.279 thing about it. It is very cunning in a way 382 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:24.680 because this has nothing to this wasn't military action against Venezuela. 383 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:30.480 Involves Venezuela and oil, right And in a sense, it's 384 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:35.200 doing what the the Ukraine is doing to the Russian 385 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:41.720 uh you know black oil fleet uh by by sinking 386 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:47.200 their ships. You know, they're shaking these these ghost ships. Basically, 387 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.400 nobody's gonna want to risk one of those vocal oil characters. 388 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:55.319 They're not going to get insurance. So this is a 389 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:59.000 way of reverse pressure on a Venezuela by doing the 390 00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:01.680 same thing to venezuel Wala, who's really going to want 391 00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:06.559 to carry Venezuelan oil if we're going to play this 392 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:11.000 sanction card on all the shipments that go out. On 393 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.519 the other hand, what if China, who is probably the 394 00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:19.200 biggest the US and China are the biggest consumers of 395 00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:24.279 venezuzuel and crude. So what if China starts sailing Chinese 396 00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:28.920 flags vessels into Venezuela? Going to do that to China? 397 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:29.559 I doubt it. 398 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:34.000 What about the US companies that are buying Venezuelan and oil? 399 00:26:34.119 --> 00:26:37.240 What are they going to It's it's so, it's it's 400 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:41.839 two different ones. We're talking about oversight in terms of 401 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.200