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<v Speaker 1>The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, people, take out your notebooks and pencils and

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<v Speaker 2>tribe rolls. You're listening to tech Talk Radio with true geeks.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I'm Besider and I'm a geek too.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Seana Weird, I'm Slick, I'm Matt Jones, and I'm justin leme.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good to see everybody. I think this is the

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<v Speaker 1>most we've had on a show in months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you is it room for all of these people

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<v Speaker 5>in the screen.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all fitting in here.

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<v Speaker 5>Boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we were gonna have a guest today and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of bummed because they weren't able to make it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were to talk about UFOs hmm, a little

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<v Speaker 1>different kind of interested in that, So here for that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you were like the first one to chime in. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, I'm ready. The reason is we'll just go

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<v Speaker 1>We'll go ahead and talk about this. There's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Luis Elizondo and he's written a book. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>Immiment Imminent Imminent, Thank you. What is an imminent Imminent

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<v Speaker 1>Inside the Pentagon's Hunt.

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<v Speaker 6>Andy, do you smell burnt toast?

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<v Speaker 5>What? Wait that?

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<v Speaker 3>What would that mean?

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<v Speaker 6>That would mean the stroke is real?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, you were saying, thanks a lot, Thanks a lot, guys.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, this guy, Lewis Alessandro has written a book called

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<v Speaker 1>Imminent Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>he's the former head of the Pentagon program investigating UAPs.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what those are.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's been on Joe Rogan's show. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And this woman who knows him, Teresa Tendell, was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come on because he's going to be at the rialto

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<v Speaker 1>theater coming up on the third. Uh. And she knows

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<v Speaker 1>him as a former director of the Maryland State Muffun Chapter.

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<v Speaker 3>M What is Muffun? Anybody know?

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<v Speaker 5>I had that up on my screen. I did look

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<v Speaker 5>that up in advance because you can find it keep

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<v Speaker 5>going often Mutual UFO Network.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, all right, Oh well, okay, two UFO and UAP

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<v Speaker 6>is Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, Well sounds like kind of cool. I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to get her on the show, but just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like we were able to do that. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>we got us. So how's everybody doing?

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<v Speaker 5>I like my flying sauces in purple?

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<v Speaker 1>And all right, here's here's here's the go around here

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<v Speaker 1>it is, has anybody experienced a unidentified flying object?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I tell.

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<v Speaker 4>You what this one time he's up by the park.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw this and they took me. Man, they took me,

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<v Speaker 4>I swear.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah, don't ask any new questions.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't want to know what they did to me

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<v Speaker 7>up there.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it bad?

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<v Speaker 7>It was bad? Yeah, I don't want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you like it?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Well that's a good answer.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, this show is getting off to a weird start.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is really bizarre. Uh sho, sean your way

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<v Speaker 1>out there.

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<v Speaker 8>And uh, I can't say that I have. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>I've seen a lot of weird stuff in the sky,

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<v Speaker 8>try and chasing the door of the lights in the

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<v Speaker 8>space station, but it's usually something that can be explained

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<v Speaker 8>or tracked, like a plane or space debris or satellites

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<v Speaker 8>or whatever. But yeah, nothing, nothing in the extraterrestrial category.

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<v Speaker 7>Anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I kind of want did people talk about

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<v Speaker 1>UFOs before Close Encounters of the Third Kind? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>before the movie came out.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, you have to define UFOs, right, because it's

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<v Speaker 8>like historic There is documentation of tribes and Indians with

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<v Speaker 8>just the depictions of stuff in the sky, right, So

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<v Speaker 8>what is that to them?

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<v Speaker 9>That's in a UFO?

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm sure that over the years things have evolved

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<v Speaker 8>and you get those legends that turn into myths and

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<v Speaker 8>things like that, Right, So they kind of get passed

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<v Speaker 8>down over the years and turn into you know, stuff

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<v Speaker 8>that spooks spooks people slick.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, have you ever experienced anything?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I was gonna say, I'm here in the two

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<v Speaker 5>Justin may have heard of some people saying, because I've

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I've heard it multiple times over many years.

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<v Speaker 5>There were three lights and they moved in a manner

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<v Speaker 5>that's unusual to you know, how airplanes fly. And there

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<v Speaker 5>was a time I was staying far west of let say, Tucson,

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<v Speaker 5>to be on the mountain over there and right yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>picture yeah, and off in the distance I'm gonna say southwest,

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<v Speaker 5>there seemed to be some aerial vehicles. You know, I

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<v Speaker 5>won't say three lights, but yeah, it could have been

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<v Speaker 5>three lights that seemed to be moving in a way

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<v Speaker 5>I can't explain. You know, I'm not going to say

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<v Speaker 5>I ever saw UFO, but because I remember somebody going, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>come take a look, and I'm like, well, okay, but

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just not sure. Have you not heard those stories,

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<v Speaker 5>cause it's been you know, a lot of people around

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<v Speaker 5>here have told it for many.

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<v Speaker 1>Many I remember about ten years ago driving on the

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<v Speaker 1>ten heading to California for a trip to visit the family,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was over i would say, between Phoenix and Tucson,

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<v Speaker 1>just a string of lights. And you know, now people

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<v Speaker 1>say the string of lights and right away people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's Starlink. You know, that's the Starlink satellites, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it's But ten years ago they weren't doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember seeing them and I've thought, what the

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<v Speaker 1>heck is that? And it was just like in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>But then again, I guess it could have been satellites

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<v Speaker 1>were up ten years ago, so it's very possible.

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<v Speaker 7>I've never personally had an experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Even up in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 7>Nope, no, no, I can't say I have.

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<v Speaker 8>I will say though, that in my amateur radio days,

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<v Speaker 8>right the stuff that I didn't hand radio. It's fun

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<v Speaker 8>to tune in and listen to stuff that you don't

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<v Speaker 8>necessarily know what it is, right, It's usually just garbled,

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<v Speaker 8>but it sounds cool. So you could count that as

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<v Speaker 8>I've probably heard alien stuff. But who here remembers doing

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<v Speaker 8>SETI at home?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, SETI.

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<v Speaker 1>SETI was the search for Extraterrestrial intelligence, right, correct?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So one of my mentors who just recently passed away,

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<v Speaker 8>got me into SETI when I worked at Fox, So

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<v Speaker 8>this would have been back in twenty ten, and I

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<v Speaker 8>had it on any computer that I owned, and it

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<v Speaker 8>was running twenty four to seven until they shut it down,

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<v Speaker 8>probably four or five years ago. And it was just

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<v Speaker 8>cool to watch, right, And who knows what they did

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<v Speaker 8>with the data. It got sent to Berkeley and they

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<v Speaker 8>analyzed it. But what did that mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 8>So maybe one day I'll get an email saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>this piece of information that your CPU calculated was alien

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<v Speaker 8>technology or something.

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<v Speaker 9>That's what I'm hoping for.

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<v Speaker 5>Help me out. It said it, because I remember hearing

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<v Speaker 5>about it, and it was to me it was you

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<v Speaker 5>installed a bunch of people installed software on the computer

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<v Speaker 5>to assist with processing and searching of something.

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<v Speaker 8>So basically think of it like crypto mining data data

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<v Speaker 8>from Berkeley off of satellites and radio telescopes, Like they

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<v Speaker 8>was just a peer to peer data exchange. Your CPU

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<v Speaker 8>was processing raw like data from satellites and the gigahertz

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<v Speaker 8>spectrums and very I mean you could kind of watch it. It

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<v Speaker 8>would tell you what chunks you were you were scanning,

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<v Speaker 8>so it would tell you like, you're on this array

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<v Speaker 8>and it's scanning in the twenty three gigaheard spectrum, and

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<v Speaker 8>it would just tell you was scanning that.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, and it's just there was just I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>with all the different radio telescopes arrays out there, there's

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<v Speaker 4>just so much data that we're pulling down. There was

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<v Speaker 4>no way they would ever be able to do it themselves,

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<v Speaker 4>even with a supercomputer. So that's why they created this

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<v Speaker 4>happens And it was one of the forgive me if

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<v Speaker 4>I'm wrong, but I think it was one of the first,

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<v Speaker 4>if not the first, like distributed cloud computing.

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<v Speaker 9>I would agree with that.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, And it was very popular in the in the

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<v Speaker 8>nerd community, and it was kind of fun to compete

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<v Speaker 8>with your friends and say, hey, I've got this many

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<v Speaker 8>chunks decoded.

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<v Speaker 9>Or whatever whatever. It was you have this many points

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<v Speaker 9>and it got people in trouble.

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<v Speaker 8>So this was before crypto, right, right, So you had

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<v Speaker 8>people installing them on work servers and things like that.

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<v Speaker 8>I actually got in trouble for putting it on some

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<v Speaker 8>computers at work that had higher processing power at the time.

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<v Speaker 9>And was using the you know, the company's power on

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<v Speaker 9>the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 9>So it just was because you could get a higher

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<v Speaker 9>score than your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it a shame that you got in trouble for

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<v Speaker 1>doing that? Not mining crypto?

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<v Speaker 9>It was it, I know, I mean I knew better

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<v Speaker 9>than that with crypto.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's the thing you mentioned using the you know

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<v Speaker 4>company's internet or whatever. Honestly, it really didn't require hardly

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<v Speaker 4>any internet because it would just go online. It would

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<v Speaker 4>download a chunk of data and then it would sit

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<v Speaker 4>there and chew on that data for hours and hours

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<v Speaker 4>and hours and hours, and then once it had its results,

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<v Speaker 4>then it would just upload that back to the to

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<v Speaker 4>Berkeley and then it would download a new set of data.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's not like you had to be connected to

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<v Speaker 4>the Internet at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, So you were actually helping the government and doing

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<v Speaker 1>the research through different parts of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Wherever you were, and however you were able to connect.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so like the SETI is still exists, right, so

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<v Speaker 8>that that part didn't go away. It's just this part

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<v Speaker 8>of it the funding ran out or whatever, so you

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<v Speaker 8>can still go check out and do SETI and all

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<v Speaker 8>that stuff. And there's actually another program that kind of

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<v Speaker 8>an offshoot event called HARP. It's I don't remember what

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<v Speaker 8>the acronym stands for, but it's another high frequency radio

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<v Speaker 8>project that uses your CPU power GP power to scan.

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<v Speaker 6>High frequency active oral research program. They actually did something

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<v Speaker 6>similar in order Lands three. When you got to a

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<v Speaker 6>certain town in the game, they actually in game they

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<v Speaker 6>had what looked like the standard arcade machine and they

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<v Speaker 6>told you when you started playing this game in a game,

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<v Speaker 6>they were like, hey, just to let you know, this

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<v Speaker 6>is not just a game. You are researching folded proteins, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>and the work that you're doing here. So now any

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<v Speaker 6>So it could just be through some works and flukes.

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<v Speaker 6>We have just showed up first, and other biological life

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<v Speaker 6>And the scariest one for me is the great silence,

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we are telling everyone exactly how to find this,

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<v Speaker 6>But the great silence theory is that all these other

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<v Speaker 6>all right, marvel.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to when it comes to movies, think

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<v Speaker 1>it still holds up today pretty much. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>But you have the great characters, Richard Dreyfus, Melinda Dillon,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, is it a government conspiracy and

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<v Speaker 1>just just a great movie?

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I think it just it stands up today.

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<v Speaker 1>But is there another movie that we're missing that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>best highlights the search for extraterrestrial intelligence that maybe we're

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<v Speaker 1>not even thinking about. I mean, Interstellar was that would

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<v Speaker 1>that be close to it or Fire in the Sky,

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<v Speaker 3>Just a pretty pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Scary, pretty freaky movie about an actual you know, alien abduction.

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<v Speaker 3>You can check it out there. I know, Slick. What

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<v Speaker 5>Justin just said I was thinking about the same thing

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<v Speaker 5>with methemal sale Meg. It only takes one borg, just one.

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<v Speaker 7>Just the one. What about what about the movie Contact.

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<v Speaker 6>With Yeah, no, that that is another good one.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's the other one that just came out recently

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<v Speaker 4>with Amy Adams or whatever? It was this kind of

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<v Speaker 4>the same style of contact. It was people said it

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<v Speaker 4>was very similar to that Arrival.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yeah, I'll hear the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's my I wanted to mention this my favorite

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I agree with them. I'm sorry. And there's

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<v Speaker 6>the the one of the other things. Two things one

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<v Speaker 6>the nineteen fifty one version the Day of the Earth

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<v Speaker 6>stood Still?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah are oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Not the Keanu Reeves one, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>The OG nineteen fifty one, the original version of the

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<v Speaker 6>and they're like, we're here to help kind of because

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<v Speaker 3>What was the other one? There was a movie with

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<v Speaker 1>The dog was walking around with a human head, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when they said, okay, there's something wrong here. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>That's the one.

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<v Speaker 11>Jack Nicholson playing like eighteen different roles in that movie.

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<v Speaker 6>O TC in high school was the elective I basically

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<v Speaker 6>the movie and stop when we saw Jack Nicholson's uh,

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<v Speaker 6>his his army jacket when he was one of his

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<v Speaker 6>general characters. Because there's there's a rule that they're always

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<v Speaker 6>in Hollywood, if you're doing if you're portraying somebody in

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<v Speaker 6>You not be a true, entirely accurate uniform. There always

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<v Speaker 5>Mean, as you mentioned that because I got in trouble

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<v Speaker 5>my second step father. Big trouble because I refused to

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<v Speaker 5>take it off. It's like, well, you can take off

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<v Speaker 1>So if if you want to attend this event, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Louis Celizan though the author of this book, he looks

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<v Speaker 1>pretty serious, looks like a very serious guy, h imminent

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<v Speaker 1>inside the Pentagon's hunt for UFOs. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>at the rialto Theater tomorrow as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can get more information about that if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to check out the show. The doors will open

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<v Speaker 1>at seven pm. Tickets are twenty bucks up to sixty

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<v Speaker 1>And again, the guy's former ahead of the Pentagon's UFO

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<v Speaker 1>investigation unit and it should be a really interesting discussion,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you like extraterrestrial science. You know, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly enjoyed it. I thought that was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, we don't forget about served man. By the way, guys,

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<v Speaker 5>that's to one the other morning when I think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Twilight the Twilight Zone episode. Do you all

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<v Speaker 1>remember that one?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Oh, just okay, you've got Justin. You had one

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<v Speaker 5>episode Justin. I can't tell you, but you got a watch?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you have it? Seen it?

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<v Speaker 5>Justin?

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<v Speaker 4>It's really into the I'm not in a Twilight Zone

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<v Speaker 4>or Black Mirror or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for him Charlie Booker to put out a

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<v Speaker 3>Sean, did you see any of those?

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<v Speaker 5>No, why don't you two get together like this weekend?

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<v Speaker 6>How are we gonna do this viewing party?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, I'll tell you what. We'll take a break,

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<v Speaker 1>do believe we're gonna have on the show. So again, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a camera they've developed. He's been on the

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun. And with both Sean and Justin,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with the broadcasting background, it should be interesting

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<v Speaker 1>new camera.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean dea Weird, I'm Slick, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>Let me find us on the web at tech talk

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<v Speaker 4>radio dot com. We'll be right back and now fact

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<v Speaker 4>to tech Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Some months ago, we were blessed to have Richard Newman

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<v Speaker 1>from sub to R on the show and sub to

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<v Speaker 1>are at the time it's put out this amazing green

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<v Speaker 1>screen that kind of changed the whole process. And you

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<v Speaker 1>may have seen the interview. It's available up on our

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<v Speaker 3>But Richard had kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of teased a little bit that they were working on

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new camera design. When somebody tells you that,

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<v Speaker 1>there on the market, how is yours going to be different? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when we all got a chance to see Richard pop

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<v Speaker 1>we all kind of stepped back a little and said Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's what they have developed at sub to Are and

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<v Speaker 1>we're happy to have Richard Duman on the show again.

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<v Speaker 3>Richard, it's good to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you for having me back. I really love being here,

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<v Speaker 12>so it's great. And of course you're just gonna have

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<v Speaker 12>to hit mute and kick me off. I'm going to

436
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<v Speaker 12>blather about our camera like crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, you know, the camera is neat because it

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<v Speaker 1>speaks for itself. I mean, we look at the quality

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<v Speaker 1>that we're getting off the camera.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 12>It really is what we've set out to build from

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<v Speaker 12>day one, which which is to give people a professional

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<v Speaker 12>broadcast quality but with the ease of use of a webcam.

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<v Speaker 5>And we do not.

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<v Speaker 12>I think we called a webcam because we're not. I mean,

446
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<v Speaker 12>that gives people the idea that you know, we're fifty

447
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<v Speaker 12>two teeny tiny sensor, right, you know, we're not. We

448
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<v Speaker 12>built this camera using a Sony iMX two ninety four

449
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<v Speaker 12>image sensor, which is a micro four third censor for

450
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<v Speaker 12>you guys and broadcast, you know that they're much bigger sensor,

451
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<v Speaker 12>not quite cinematic yet, but for what we're doing, it's

452
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<v Speaker 12>amazingly huge. It's like sixteen times bigger than what you

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<v Speaker 12>find anywhere else. Allows us to use micro four thirds glass,

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<v Speaker 12>which I should hold it up. This is this is

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<v Speaker 12>all the bigger it is.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh wow, not big at.

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<v Speaker 12>All now, little teeny tiny guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it front heavy with that lens on it? Or

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<v Speaker 4>does it have like a mounting bracket to hold it

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<v Speaker 4>onto a mount?

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you for asking that question. It's got two quarter

462
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<v Speaker 12>twenties on the bottom which allow you to adjust the

463
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<v Speaker 12>center of gravity depending upon how heavy a lens you

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<v Speaker 12>put on, because some glasses really heavy, some is really light,

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<v Speaker 12>so you have a chance to adjust the balance. We

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<v Speaker 12>have three of those on the top so you can

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<v Speaker 12>also hang it from above. We also have rack mount groups.

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<v Speaker 12>Can't see them too well, but you've got rock mount

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<v Speaker 12>groups on the side, and you have rock mount groups

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<v Speaker 12>on the bottom, which means that you can hang this

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<v Speaker 12>thing and mount this thing from a gazillion different directions.

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<v Speaker 3>In developing this camera, Richard, you're obviously we're looking for

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<v Speaker 3>a solution for maybe a something that you had not

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<v Speaker 3>seen in them market. What was that?

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<v Speaker 12>What we started out with, you know, building a camera

476
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<v Speaker 12>for Twitch and what we saw is when people got

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<v Speaker 12>tired of a webcam. The next thing they did is

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<v Speaker 12>they moved up to a DSLRYE. And DSLRs are complicated,

479
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<v Speaker 12>they're cumbersome to set up, they're expensive by the time

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<v Speaker 12>you get all the fake batteries and all the other

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<v Speaker 12>stuff you have to do, and they're really not easy

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<v Speaker 12>to use. I'll be honest. I got a DSLR that

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<v Speaker 12>we use for, you know, behind the sceneshoots, and the

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<v Speaker 12>first thing I do is put it on auto because

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<v Speaker 12>I will never learn all of the commands in there, right,

486
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<v Speaker 12>And we realize that that's kind of who our audience is.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, you really don't want to become an expert

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<v Speaker 12>camera person. That takes years of study and and a

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<v Speaker 12>lot of knowledge. So the thing that makes webcam great

490
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<v Speaker 12>is that you know, you plug it any turn on works,

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<v Speaker 12>but the quality you'll never get there with the teeny

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<v Speaker 12>tiny sensors that they use. So we set out to

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<v Speaker 12>build a camera that was based on larger format image sensor,

494
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<v Speaker 12>larger format glass and then make that as easy to

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<v Speaker 12>use as a webcam, and then keep the price down

496
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<v Speaker 12>to where it's reasonable and it's comparable. And we went

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<v Speaker 12>with micro four thirds because when you move up to

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<v Speaker 12>a DSLR, you find that if you have a Sony

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<v Speaker 12>camera or a canon Ae camera, only canon Ae lenses

500
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<v Speaker 12>will work on it. And you can get lens of

501
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<v Speaker 12>adapters in some work and some don't. But yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 12>the problem. So the idea was Golden micro four thirds

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<v Speaker 12>because micro four thirds is an industry standard. And while

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<v Speaker 12>I will tell you that anything universal is not universal,

505
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<v Speaker 12>it realized as it supports. We learn the hard way,

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<v Speaker 12>but we support the basic power functions of micro four

507
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<v Speaker 12>thirds lenses and this gives the end user the opportunity

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<v Speaker 12>to select from a massive amount of glass that's out

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<v Speaker 12>there and a really reasonable price. The lenses are interchangeable.

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<v Speaker 12>That's the point we wanted to get to. The other

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<v Speaker 12>thing we want We learned is that people need power lenses.

512
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<v Speaker 12>They need power focus, they need power aperture. Our original

513
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<v Speaker 12>camera that came out was a manual focus and if

514
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<v Speaker 12>the camera is too far away, they can't reach the

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<v Speaker 12>lens to focus.

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<v Speaker 4>That.

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<v Speaker 12>Going with microphort, the it's allows you to have on

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<v Speaker 12>desktop control of focus and zoom and aperture. But now

519
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<v Speaker 12>the fund begins because on the output side, so this

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<v Speaker 12>is a this is a development camera, and what you'll

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<v Speaker 12>see is you've got an HDMI output here, you have

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<v Speaker 12>a USB going to get it right, Yes, you have

523
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<v Speaker 12>USB output. We actually have video out over USB. We

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<v Speaker 12>have dual on the studio four sixty. We have dual

525
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<v Speaker 12>twelve gig SDI outputs. Plus we have a gen lock input,

526
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<v Speaker 12>so if you're doing multiple cameras, you can genlock them.

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<v Speaker 12>And then this sweet little thing, this is called an

528
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<v Speaker 12>SFP plus cage, and the SFP plus cage allows you

529
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<v Speaker 12>to buy little off the shelf modules I see Matt

530
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<v Speaker 12>nodding his head, and convert the video output in absolutely

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<v Speaker 12>anything you want that's off the shelf. So if you

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<v Speaker 12>wanted this to be optical output and have a forty

533
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.359
<v Speaker 12>kilometer range on it, you can get you can get

534
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<v Speaker 12>a module that slides in the back. If you have

535
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<v Speaker 12>a square one that has HDMI and you go, I

536
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<v Speaker 12>really want upgrade SDI, you can buy an SDI, can

537
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<v Speaker 12>vert or vice versa. That's really the advantage of these

538
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<v Speaker 12>SFP cages. You can ndi IP. That's what I think

539
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<v Speaker 12>is a really cool feature about the camera is that

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<v Speaker 12>you're not stuck with a video output and all of

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<v Speaker 12>our outputs are depending upon the video format is a

542
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<v Speaker 12>four K sixty output camera is a native twelve bit

543
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<v Speaker 12>color depthning find your outpuit it usually drops to ten,

544
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<v Speaker 12>but inside all of our processing is done. It's all

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<v Speaker 12>the color. The other thing that's important for broadcasters is

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<v Speaker 12>that we have virtually no latency. The most you will

547
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<v Speaker 12>be is one frame behind reality or sixteen milliseconds.

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<v Speaker 4>So does the processing happen on board or does it

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<v Speaker 4>utilize the computer that it's connected to to process.

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<v Speaker 12>No, all the all the processes happen on board. We

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<v Speaker 12>run at This is an FPG eight that based camera.

552
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<v Speaker 12>There's no ask on board, which means that all of

553
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<v Speaker 12>the video pipeline is software based, and so we can

554
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.960
<v Speaker 12>you can upgrade it, you can modify it. Our dream

555
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.240
<v Speaker 12>down the road is to make it modulars and you

556
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<v Speaker 12>actually have access to parts of the ip you know,

557
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:51.039
<v Speaker 12>the image processing pipeline, and can make changes yourself. So

558
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<v Speaker 12>if you want to, for instance, adjust the color converter

559
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<v Speaker 12>at the end, if you want to add in you

560
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<v Speaker 12>know you don't like the way we do, demo's egg

561
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:08.319
<v Speaker 12>and you can implement your own demos agging. Our goal

562
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<v Speaker 12>of this camera was to make it an open architecture,

563
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<v Speaker 12>not open source open architecture because we believe that building

564
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<v Speaker 12>a platform for people to innovate is where this is

565
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<v Speaker 12>going to be very powerful. I'm willing to bet we're

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<v Speaker 12>the only camera company in the world that if you

567
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<v Speaker 12>crack the case etched on our motherboard, it says, if

568
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<v Speaker 12>you've come this far, explore, innovate, and create, And we

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<v Speaker 12>actually give you places to hook into the major components

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<v Speaker 12>on the motherboard, and we give you the knowledge base

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<v Speaker 12>and the tools to play.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 12>We started out being R and D guys, right, you know,

574
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<v Speaker 12>engineers exploring and we needed to build a platform. So

575
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<v Speaker 12>this is basically a dead kit shoved in a box

576
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<v Speaker 12>to make it look like a beautiful camera. On the back,

577
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<v Speaker 12>there's a little bank of square connectors.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I was wondered about that.

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<v Speaker 12>We offer a external ice wirt C comport. Ice wort

580
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<v Speaker 12>C is kind of a universal language that electronic components

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<v Speaker 12>talk to each other the very simple slow communication protocol.

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<v Speaker 12>We also have a PTO of power takeoff on the

583
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<v Speaker 12>back as well, five bolts, so it's available to drive

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<v Speaker 12>certain things. If you wanted to control, for instance, our

585
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<v Speaker 12>green screen, you don't have to have a separate control

586
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<v Speaker 12>panel for the green screen and for the camera camera

587
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<v Speaker 12>can control a green screen. Our goal again down the

588
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<v Speaker 12>road is it can also control the lights in the

589
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<v Speaker 12>It can also control a gimbal. It can also control

590
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<v Speaker 12>a cat feed. Or we don't care. That's the beauty

591
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<v Speaker 12>of I squirts see is it doesn't really care. You

592
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<v Speaker 12>just say this address is this device, here's the registers,

593
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<v Speaker 12>here's how you write to it, you know, and you

594
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<v Speaker 12>can send commands back and forth to the host command panel,

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<v Speaker 12>the control panel. You have one point of entry that

596
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<v Speaker 12>allows you to control what's going going on in the room.

597
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<v Speaker 12>And if you carry this to the extent that we

598
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<v Speaker 12>want to. You think of auto exposure. Auto exposure just

599
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<v Speaker 12>changes the aperture and the exposure on the camera itself,

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<v Speaker 12>but does nothing to the outside environment. What if auto

601
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<v Speaker 12>exposure could adjust your lights?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh wow, that's a good thought.

603
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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 12>Now when you talk about the single person's studio, which

605
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<v Speaker 12>is really where we're focusing, which is what everybody is

606
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<v Speaker 12>right here and now every one of us is a

607
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<v Speaker 12>single person's studio. We've designed this not just to be

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<v Speaker 12>a camera, but be the focal point of a single

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<v Speaker 12>person studio and make it easy to use.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that moment, like when you got it together

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<v Speaker 1>and you looked at it and you said, this is amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we're looking at it, looking at the quality. And

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<v Speaker 1>for our listeners that are listening on the radio, if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to our website, you'd be able to see

615
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<v Speaker 1>the quality we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 12>You've been a long journey. We've been on this path

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<v Speaker 12>to twelve years. We can spend hours and probably shots

618
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<v Speaker 12>of tequila talking about all the disasters that we've faced,

619
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<v Speaker 12>from exploding motherboards to a vendor promising a forty dollars

620
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.480
<v Speaker 12>part that ended up costing us almost thirteen hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, I mean it's just every mic dropping engineers,

622
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<v Speaker 12>I mean taking everything with them, everything you can imagine.

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<v Speaker 12>But this has always been our dream. And seeing the

624
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<v Speaker 12>video coming off of our camera was was that moment,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, and we said we did it. We pulled

626
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<v Speaker 12>it off. We did what we had set out to do,

627
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<v Speaker 12>which is not a simple task. And I remember us

628
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<v Speaker 12>sitting around going when we first thoughted this, going, how

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<v Speaker 12>are can you be to build a camera?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 12>And we had you know, we had the pontificating trolls

632
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:49.640
<v Speaker 12>and said, wow, you can build a camera. For forty

633
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<v Speaker 12>dollars in parts. What are you guys talking about? You

634
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<v Speaker 12>can if you slap a module on in our duino, maybe,

635
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<v Speaker 12>but if you really want to build a camera and

636
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<v Speaker 12>you start from the ground up, it is is not

637
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<v Speaker 12>an in significant task. I mean, the last statistic I

638
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<v Speaker 12>saw is Apple has eight hundred w two engineers doing

639
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<v Speaker 12>nothing but working on the camera for their I phone.

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<v Speaker 12>We laugh, We build our camera for what they spend

641
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<v Speaker 12>on coffee and bagels.

642
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<v Speaker 1>So the marketing that's got to be a chore as well,

643
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<v Speaker 1>because the next step is getting it into either retail

644
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<v Speaker 1>or getting it into the hands of the person that

645
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<v Speaker 1>wants to buy it. How will you do this? Is

646
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<v Speaker 1>it going to be through you.

647
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<v Speaker 3>Know, somebody goes to the website they could order it,

648
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<v Speaker 3>or will they.

649
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<v Speaker 1>Be able to walk into a high end camera store

650
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<v Speaker 1>or a best buy and be able to buy it?

651
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<v Speaker 7>So we're.

652
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<v Speaker 12>We found it with the green screen, and the green

653
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 12>screen was a great way of understanding our customer base.

654
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:57.519
<v Speaker 12>It was it kind of a fun experiment. You know,

655
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:00.319
<v Speaker 12>who's interested? Who's buying this thing? Wasn't people we thought

656
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.240
<v Speaker 12>we're going to buy. What drives people to us to

657
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:08.840
<v Speaker 12>buy that are experts in the field using it going wow,

658
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:12.280
<v Speaker 12>this just was like, why didn't I think of this?

659
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.320
<v Speaker 12>This is a mind blow. So our plan is to

660
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 12>build a small set of the cameras. We've got most

661
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 12>of the parts in stock right now, and to get

662
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.760
<v Speaker 12>those in the hands of people who have two qualifications.

663
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:29.000
<v Speaker 12>One they understand a camera, so they understand and can

664
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<v Speaker 12>talk about why this camera is different, why it's different

665
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<v Speaker 12>than a webcam, why it's different than a DSLR, why

666
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<v Speaker 12>it's the kind of camera if you are going to

667
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<v Speaker 12>elevate your strain you want. I mean, they just you know,

668
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<v Speaker 12>somebody who sells cosmetics is not our kind of influencer,

669
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<v Speaker 12>and not necessarily every gamer could be an influencer. We're

670
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<v Speaker 12>really looking for those people who understand and can convey

671
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<v Speaker 12>to their base what it is, and then some as

672
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<v Speaker 12>obviously people who have a respected following. Doesn't mean you

673
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<v Speaker 12>have a million people, but it means that people come

674
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<v Speaker 12>to you and seek advice. But honestly, we have a

675
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<v Speaker 12>larger challenge before we get to market, and what is

676
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<v Speaker 12>that up into the pandemic. We were founder funded, We

677
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:20.960
<v Speaker 12>were self funded. It it was you know, I joke, but

678
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.840
<v Speaker 12>slaughtered for o one case and liquidated savings in every

679
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<v Speaker 12>body part we could sell on craigs and this straight

680
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<v Speaker 12>we found a sole investor. I had four hundred and

681
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<v Speaker 12>fifty doors slammed in my face and found a sole

682
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:37.719
<v Speaker 12>investor and absolutely look to be the perfect combination. I

683
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<v Speaker 12>love this guy, by the way, super nice guy. We

684
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 12>weren't even talking about investing. He said, Hey, just had

685
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<v Speaker 12>a curiosity. You guys looking and raise money? Yeah, said

686
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<v Speaker 12>how much? Throughout a number? He said, okay, And we

687
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 12>got half of it, which carried us through the pandemic

688
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:56.800
<v Speaker 12>and got us to this camera. It got us the

689
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:00.239
<v Speaker 12>green screens, it got us the mouse, it got the

690
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:05.480
<v Speaker 12>glasses in production. I mean it was fabulous. And it

691
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<v Speaker 12>came time for the second half in their bankrupt oh man.

692
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<v Speaker 12>So that kind of was a shock to us because

693
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<v Speaker 12>we kept asking them and they said, oh, we won't

694
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<v Speaker 12>take carry no more. Don't worry about So we cut everything,

695
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<v Speaker 12>absolutely everything except the very essentials. It's down to the

696
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<v Speaker 12>four of us again in one engineer and the four

697
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<v Speaker 12>founders again, keeping it afloat as best we can while

698
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<v Speaker 12>we seek for a replacement. And that becomes the challenge

699
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<v Speaker 12>for us. The difference is we have a product that's amazing.

700
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<v Speaker 12>We're ready to go into production, and it's finding that

701
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<v Speaker 12>person that says or that investor that says, hey, I'm

702
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<v Speaker 12>willing to pick up the pieces and run with it.

703
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<v Speaker 12>That's a huge challenge for any startup. Hardware is tough.

704
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<v Speaker 12>Telling me build a camera. Nobody wants to talk to you.

705
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<v Speaker 12>But I only have two hundred more to go and

706
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<v Speaker 12>then I catch up with the last last numb which

707
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<v Speaker 12>I'm doing pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>A man, So are you planning to go to CS

709
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.519
<v Speaker 1>for twenty twenty five and obviously too, you know they

710
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:11.119
<v Speaker 1>have the exhibitor showcase where people get out there and

711
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.639
<v Speaker 1>they show they're good looking for investors.

712
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<v Speaker 12>So I'm wondering, Yeah, they have that, they have that

713
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:19.480
<v Speaker 12>investor out I mean, you know, that's a good idea.

714
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<v Speaker 12>I wasn't thinking I'm going to see us. We uhould

715
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<v Speaker 12>get NAB right, just right, Yeah, because NAB is more.

716
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Like that's the focus.

717
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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, but I should look into CEOs. I haven't been

718
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 12>to see us in a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 6>The other thing to think of, when you're talking about

720
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<v Speaker 6>trying to find potential investors, who had said, you know,

721
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<v Speaker 6>kind of the start that you were looking at creating

722
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<v Speaker 6>this for you know, looking at streamers and creating a

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<v Speaker 6>more professional feel for those streams. So you could also

724
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<v Speaker 6>look at going to something like Whitchcon. I mean, you

725
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 6>have big name streamers who have more money than frankly

726
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 6>any of us are ever going to see in our lifetime,

727
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<v Speaker 6>and it would I mean, uh, I off the top

728
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<v Speaker 6>of my head, there's uh, there's a guy he's now

729
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:11.920
<v Speaker 6>what is it streamer sense say. I used to follow

730
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<v Speaker 6>him for your when I was starting out for all

731
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<v Speaker 6>my tips things like that. But you know there are

732
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<v Speaker 6>people like that who would happily slap their name to

733
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<v Speaker 6>be associated with something like that out the gate and

734
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<v Speaker 6>be like, oh you need X amount of dollars. Well, okay,

735
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<v Speaker 6>let me call my finance guy. But you know if

736
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<v Speaker 6>you also if you go to something like twitch Con,

737
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<v Speaker 6>then you're getting in front of all those people.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and we usually we usually do twitch Con. We

739
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<v Speaker 12>did twitch Con last year. That was a blast. It

740
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<v Speaker 12>was in Las Vegas and and we had tons of fun.

741
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<v Speaker 12>And just the thing that that blew people away there

742
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<v Speaker 12>is when I put a battery pack on the green

743
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<v Speaker 12>screen and one of the guys picked up the green

744
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<v Speaker 12>screen walk walked down the alley aisle with it. Oh

745
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 12>oh my god. It just follows me wherever I go,

746
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<v Speaker 12>you know, And we had is on display there. It

747
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<v Speaker 12>was kind of a weird layout done and done Vegas before.

748
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<v Speaker 3>So well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at this, Richard, and I'm just thinking, again,

750
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<v Speaker 1>I'm blown away by it. We talked about a little

751
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>bit about it last time we talked, and I know

752
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>that we'll talk again too. I am again excited about this.

753
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Can people purchase this now?

754
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Or is this? Is this going to be coming up?

755
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<v Speaker 12>So that will be coming up. What I do right

756
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.320
<v Speaker 12>now is I'm taking reservations. They just go on our

757
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:35.239
<v Speaker 12>website and you can reserve it. It's a no obligation reservation.

758
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 12>But what it does is it gives me a list.

759
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.039
<v Speaker 12>And it's very important for us because when I sit

760
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:41.000
<v Speaker 12>in front of an investor, I go, look, we're not

761
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<v Speaker 12>only promoting this, and I've got to listen. You know,

762
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<v Speaker 12>one hundred and two hundred people they're lying up ready

763
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<v Speaker 12>to buy this thing right now. And so that's kind

764
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<v Speaker 12>of the the approach we've taken. We're we're always very cautious.

765
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<v Speaker 12>It was an interesting group. We don't like it to go

766
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<v Speaker 12>out and antipicate, you know, in a marketing you know,

767
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<v Speaker 12>spew and then I'll produce anything. We're the other way around.

768
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<v Speaker 12>We want to have a finished product and say okay,

769
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<v Speaker 12>now we're ready to go. You know a lot of

770
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<v Speaker 12>people say, you know, when you take pre orders, I personally,

771
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<v Speaker 12>I don't want to do that till I know one

772
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 12>hundred percent I'm going to ship your product.

773
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, excitement.

774
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<v Speaker 7>There's been many people gotten words about that.

775
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

776
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<v Speaker 12>Yeah. And it's just not where It's not how we work,

777
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:39.880
<v Speaker 12>it's not how we want to build that reputation. I'd

778
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 12>rather have one that we waited and when we were

779
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 12>ready to sell. When you you know, when you commit,

780
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<v Speaker 12>I'm sending you a product.

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<v Speaker 8>So we do a lot of remote stuff at the university,

782
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<v Speaker 8>right we do. We have sports venues spread out on

783
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<v Speaker 8>all across campus. We use a lot of fiber. If

784
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:01.880
<v Speaker 8>I connect to this via a pair of single mode fiber,

785
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:04.480
<v Speaker 8>what is my connectivity to the device? Is it just

786
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:08.320
<v Speaker 8>video coming back? How do I control remotely from the

787
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<v Speaker 8>user end?

788
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<v Speaker 12>Just on a pair of fiber, you can get video

789
00:41:11.079 --> 00:41:15.639
<v Speaker 12>and audio because the camera has dual onboard mics. Plus

790
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:17.679
<v Speaker 12>it's got an audio jack in the back, so you

791
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:20.840
<v Speaker 12>can essentially put a mic onto it if you wanted

792
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:27.320
<v Speaker 12>to control is over USB. But what we've done is

793
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<v Speaker 12>we build a module that creates a mesh network, so

794
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<v Speaker 12>then the camera becomes part of its own network and

795
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<v Speaker 12>you can daisy chain these things together and so you

796
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 12>can control you know, one hundred cameras from a single location,

797
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:49.239
<v Speaker 12>all over wireless mesh network and then you would just

798
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<v Speaker 12>be running cable. You just be running either fiber or

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<v Speaker 12>SDI back to wherever your editing station was.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great stuff, Richard, give us the website address.

801
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<v Speaker 1>Our listeners can get more about the green screen and

802
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of course the cameras and you know, and getting on

803
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.519
<v Speaker 1>this list because I might want to put my name

804
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:11.760
<v Speaker 1>on that list as well, because this is great quality

805
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<v Speaker 1>and for broadcasts for on the list.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you yeah, just put my name on the list.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>So it's it's it's www dot sub to our sub

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<v Speaker 12>the number two the letter R dot com. And then

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<v Speaker 12>you know, if anybody out there has questions, just info

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<v Speaker 12>at subto our dot com, drop me an email. I

812
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<v Speaker 12>respond as fast as possible and you will get a

813
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<v Speaker 12>response from me, not from an AI bought or some

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<v Speaker 12>call center and some random part of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it'll be me awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you so much for coming on tech talk Radio.

817
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Great stuff and looking forward to seeing this continue to develop.

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you everyone for your hospitality and sing again soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Richard are if we want to

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, if you have a question for

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826
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<v Speaker 1>one coming up a little bit later. You can just

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<v Speaker 1>drop us an email tech guys at tech talk radio

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<v Speaker 3>And on YouTube we're also on there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We feature our tech segments, but most everything goes through

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<v Speaker 1>our blog blog dot tech talk radio dot com. We

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<v Speaker 1>will take a quick break, come back with more of

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<v Speaker 1>tech talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 12>Now back to tech talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, I'm Rick Darringer Rock and Roll Uchi Ku, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're listening to tech talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 9>So during the break, I was just spewing information about

840
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<v Speaker 9>that camera.

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<v Speaker 3>Right we were talking about the camera.

842
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<v Speaker 9>Were talking about that all day long, but Andy told

843
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<v Speaker 9>me I how to wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 8>So back to So let's shift gears and talk about

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<v Speaker 8>drugs because everybody knows I love druns.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's been no update to.

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<v Speaker 8>The Anti Drone Act, right, We've talked about how there

848
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<v Speaker 8>was a bill in the House that got passed to

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<v Speaker 8>ban drones from China and specifically Dji. Well, we talked

850
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<v Speaker 8>two shows ago about their new drone, the Air three S.

851
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<v Speaker 8>The US Customs and Border Protection is currently blocking imports

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<v Speaker 8>of that dram.

853
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:23.719
<v Speaker 7>Oh my god man.

854
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 8>They say the action stems from concerns about forced labor

855
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:31.119
<v Speaker 8>practices and some other technology based concerns. Like I said,

856
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.440
<v Speaker 8>I think Dji was cramming in as many new models

857
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:35.800
<v Speaker 8>of drunes as humanly possible.

858
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

859
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.480
<v Speaker 4>Probably at the cop that I can put my drone

860
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:42.079
<v Speaker 4>that's almost brand new, I can put it up on

861
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:44.360
<v Speaker 4>eBay for like a premium right now.

862
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:48.320
<v Speaker 8>I bet once the if they passed the Anti Drone Act,

863
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:51.559
<v Speaker 8>people are going to be flocking to places like eBay

864
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:56.079
<v Speaker 8>and other third third party resellers to buy existing drones.

865
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 9>So hold on to them.

866
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:00.000
<v Speaker 8>But if you can, if you can get the new

867
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.280
<v Speaker 8>one's in great, but it'll be interesting to see how

868
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:04.199
<v Speaker 8>the drone the drone market goes forward here.

869
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.920
<v Speaker 1>They had told me at best Buy that because I

870
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:09.639
<v Speaker 1>went in and I was like, where's their DJ They

871
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:12.039
<v Speaker 1>used to have a display and it was gone and

872
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.559
<v Speaker 1>I was like, where's your display? And I said, always

873
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it in advance. He said no, no, we're just moving it.

874
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:20.440
<v Speaker 1>And then the next time I had gone in, they

875
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>had put the display back up, but they had no

876
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:25.360
<v Speaker 1>drones in there. Does that mean like Best Buy doesn't

877
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:27.079
<v Speaker 1>even have them on the retail shelf.

878
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I don't know from what I could just quickly

879
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:31.119
<v Speaker 9>google and find out.

880
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:32.960
<v Speaker 8>I'll to do some research on it, but right now

881
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.119
<v Speaker 8>it seems like they're not being allowed to import it

882
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:35.480
<v Speaker 8>right now.

883
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about something I showed on television

884
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:39.880
<v Speaker 1>on Fox eleven this past week.

885
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:41.159
<v Speaker 3>But what it is.

886
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.280
<v Speaker 1>You may have seen the commercials with Shaquille O'Neill and

887
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:48.480
<v Speaker 1>his mom, Lucille, and they're talking about preserving Priceless Memories,

888
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>which is a great ad campaign. It's the EPSO in

889
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Fast Photos six ' eighty w. This is a different

890
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:58.199
<v Speaker 1>type of scanner, not a flatbet scanner. It looks like

891
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>a little printer and you just like you would feed

892
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:03.719
<v Speaker 1>the paper, and you feed the photos in and coordinating

893
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>with your smartphone or your PC, you hit the scan

894
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>button and it's scans of photos about two seconds per photo.

895
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:13.320
<v Speaker 7>Oh that's really fast.

896
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's amazing.

897
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:18.559
<v Speaker 1>So and you know, I've been playing around with the

898
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:24.039
<v Speaker 1>YouTube and a snapchat and TikTok, and so I found oh,

899
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:26.679
<v Speaker 1>I'll do a video on this one. And I did,

900
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:31.119
<v Speaker 1>and Sean saw it, and unfortunately I cost Sean five

901
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:32.360
<v Speaker 1>hundred bucks.

902
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:34.559
<v Speaker 8>I haven't bought it yet because I have to talk

903
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:38.480
<v Speaker 8>to Klan about it, right, But so you guys, I've

904
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:42.679
<v Speaker 8>talked about this before. I did this massive photo and

905
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:46.599
<v Speaker 8>video archive for my family, right all throughout COVID, you know,

906
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:49.360
<v Speaker 8>twenty nineteen through COVID. And the one thing I was

907
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:51.440
<v Speaker 8>struggling with, and the thing I haven't tackled yet, is

908
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:53.559
<v Speaker 8>if I showed you the other side of my room,

909
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:58.599
<v Speaker 8>the basement. Down here, I have a few cardboard beer

910
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:04.000
<v Speaker 8>crates full of years and years and years and years

911
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:08.000
<v Speaker 8>and decades worth of four by sixes, oh man, without

912
00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 8>the negatives. So the negatives got destroyed, got lost, got

913
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 8>thrown away. So I just have the four by sixes.

914
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:17.480
<v Speaker 8>Now it's a painstaking process. I have the absent V

915
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:21.039
<v Speaker 8>six hundred, which is a fantastic scanner, right, but I

916
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.400
<v Speaker 8>can only fit about four in there at a time,

917
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:27.199
<v Speaker 8>and when I'm scanning at eight hundred tpi, it takes

918
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.239
<v Speaker 8>four to five minutes per four and then I got

919
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:32.119
<v Speaker 8>to open it and take them out. I get fingerprints

920
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:33.960
<v Speaker 8>on the glass. Like it's it's a big pain.

921
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:37.840
<v Speaker 9>Andy had sent me a one minute video of this

922
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 9>thing spitting out eight or nine pictures in about two minutes,

923
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.079
<v Speaker 9>so that's I could just I could just stack them

924
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:50.280
<v Speaker 9>in there and let it run. It's gonna go.

925
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 8>Like I was immediately said this, I have to have

926
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:54.159
<v Speaker 8>this for this archive project I'm working on.

927
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 1>If you're doing them on the computer or you're doing

928
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:59.239
<v Speaker 1>on in your smartphone, the cool thing, Sean is you

929
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:02.719
<v Speaker 1>can actually in just before you hit start scan, you

930
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:04.800
<v Speaker 1>can tag them so you can tell that this is

931
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>from nineteen forty eight, this is from nineteen forty nine,

932
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>this photo is was taken in the summer. You could

933
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:15.679
<v Speaker 1>tag it this is you know the weird family, or

934
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:17.800
<v Speaker 1>you know Caitlin's family, or.

935
00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:20.239
<v Speaker 8>Right, that's that's one of the big things that I've

936
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.760
<v Speaker 8>been struggling with is who puts the data in?

937
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Yep, And that's right.

938
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:25.920
<v Speaker 9>The medicata isn't get there by itself.

939
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so I'm adding that stuff in manually when i'm

940
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.159
<v Speaker 8>you know, I bulk it, right. So it's like, I

941
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:36.679
<v Speaker 8>have this folder from nineteen eighty and I'm telling it

942
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:39.000
<v Speaker 8>this is these these files, these ones i'm scanning, are

943
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:42.360
<v Speaker 8>this nineteen eighty, this event, these people are in them,

944
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:45.239
<v Speaker 8>and I'm typing all that in while I'm scanning. So

945
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 8>this is like, this is relatively do I've never seen

946
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:51.239
<v Speaker 8>this before. I would have searched for this.

947
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:54.920
<v Speaker 9>But the only thing, obviously obviously the faster you do it,

948
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:57.679
<v Speaker 9>the lower the dpi. Right, it says it'll scan up

949
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:00.800
<v Speaker 9>to one photo per second at three hundred Pi. That's

950
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:02.119
<v Speaker 9>pretty low for archive.

951
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:06.599
<v Speaker 8>Just from the BNH Photo review, it says optical residents

952
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:08.880
<v Speaker 8>and six hundred ppi max resolution twelve hundred ppi.

953
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:11.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's even better. Well, that's what he can.

954
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:13.800
<v Speaker 8>Do, one photo per second at three hundred. Now, if

955
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.199
<v Speaker 8>you're just doing it for like uploading him for people

956
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:18.559
<v Speaker 8>to look at on the web, that's more than a life.

957
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:21.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you don't need to go six, you can go

958
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:22.599
<v Speaker 3>three hundred and there. Look fine.

959
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I said them to my kids and just to see

960
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:26.960
<v Speaker 1>what they would say, because you know, my my daughters

961
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:29.119
<v Speaker 1>are in them, and my daughter sent me, you know,

962
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:32.159
<v Speaker 1>back saying I can't get my eyes off dad's mullet.

963
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:35.639
<v Speaker 5>Oh you still have that there?

964
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:39.719
<v Speaker 3>I had the mullet back then. Yes, kids, Yeah, I

965
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:40.159
<v Speaker 3>mean I.

966
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:43.119
<v Speaker 8>Encourage anybody that's doing any any sort of photo archiving.

967
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:46.280
<v Speaker 8>Look at this and it's it's on sale a little

968
00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:48.159
<v Speaker 8>bit right now on B and H.

969
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:50.599
<v Speaker 5>So come on, Sean, just you know, you don't ask

970
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.559
<v Speaker 5>for permission, just forgiveness. You know, it's come on, you

971
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 5>can do no. You don't know, you know, I'm divorced

972
00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:00.199
<v Speaker 5>guy on the progra.

973
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 1>It's the single guy on the show, the single guy

974
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:07.039
<v Speaker 1>of the show that said that, didn't.

975
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.480
<v Speaker 6>We have a tagline for one of the shows a

976
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:12.480
<v Speaker 6>few months back was me saying, I've only had to

977
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:15.760
<v Speaker 6>miss make that mistake one.

978
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:20.960
<v Speaker 9>Not to be fair, I have I have Impulse purchased

979
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.400
<v Speaker 9>on the show before, and Caitlin was the recipient of that,

980
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:26.760
<v Speaker 9>so maybe I could get away with something because it

981
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:31.320
<v Speaker 9>was the mad was like get the ution, I mean

982
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:34.559
<v Speaker 9>went online and bought it immediately, so I am an

983
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.039
<v Speaker 9>online impulse buyer, so I have to be careful.

984
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:40.440
<v Speaker 1>We're coming up to November before before we take a break.

985
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Who's getting the Microsoft sweater this year? Are they gonna

986
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:44.079
<v Speaker 1>do a new one?

987
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:46.440
<v Speaker 9>I don't know, but I probably buy it right now.

988
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 9>It's gonna be hard to beat last year's with the

989
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:50.079
<v Speaker 9>Windows XP background.

990
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:52.559
<v Speaker 4>Oh, speaking of the Windows XP background, they actually just

991
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:57.719
<v Speaker 4>released a four K upscaled version of what do.

992
00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:58.320
<v Speaker 7>They call it? Is it?

993
00:50:58.440 --> 00:50:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Is it Bliss?

994
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:00.000
<v Speaker 7>Bliss? Yeah?

995
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they released a four K version of Bliss that

996
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:05.199
<v Speaker 4>you can download now for Windows eleven. That would that

997
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:06.920
<v Speaker 4>will fit you know, four K monitors.

998
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:08.760
<v Speaker 8>And I still have the tag from that sweater. Just

999
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:10.320
<v Speaker 8>happen you'd be sitting on my desk.

1000
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:11.280
<v Speaker 7>So that's cool.

1001
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:14.199
<v Speaker 3>Matt was looking that up. Did you see anything, Matt?

1002
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:18.159
<v Speaker 6>I see something in the Xbox gear shot, but I

1003
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:21.400
<v Speaker 6>don't see the official Microsoft one yet.

1004
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:25.559
<v Speaker 1>They usually put them out by November first, so we'll

1005
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:28.320
<v Speaker 1>have to hope that we'll have to take another look

1006
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:28.880
<v Speaker 1>next week.

1007
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:32.719
<v Speaker 6>Well, I definitely found what I'm gonna buy from my

1008
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:36.480
<v Speaker 6>own ugly Christmas sweater that somebody made on their own

1009
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:38.840
<v Speaker 6>is Clippy.

1010
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:40.880
<v Speaker 3>The Clippy.

1011
00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:44.039
<v Speaker 6>It's it's Clippy sitting there on a stack of documents,

1012
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:45.760
<v Speaker 6>and instead of like would you like help, it.

1013
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:47.760
<v Speaker 3>Says happy holidays with a little.

1014
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:51.079
<v Speaker 6>OK like right underneath it. So I'm gonna I'm gonna

1015
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:54.000
<v Speaker 6>pick that up and just give tons of people uh

1016
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:57.119
<v Speaker 6>PTSD flashbacks off on the shelf.

1017
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.840
<v Speaker 1>We should sell shirts with Slick as the elf of

1018
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the shelf and put him in different situations. I think

1019
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:07.320
<v Speaker 1>that would be great.

1020
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:10.639
<v Speaker 4>Elf hat Why why why are we doing that for Christmas?

1021
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:13.199
<v Speaker 4>That's more like a Halloween thing. We want to scare.

1022
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:17.400
<v Speaker 1>All Right, We're gonna take a quick break, we come

1023
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:19.079
<v Speaker 1>back more of tech Talk Radio.

1024
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:20.639
<v Speaker 3>A listener question. We'll see if we can get to

1025
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:21.440
<v Speaker 3>that one real quick.

1026
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.679
<v Speaker 6>I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean Weird, i am Sick, I'm

1027
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:27.639
<v Speaker 6>Matt Jones, and I'm justin send us an X at

1028
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:28.719
<v Speaker 6>tech Talk Radio.

1029
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.280
<v Speaker 5>And now back to tech Talk Radio.

1030
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:33.119
<v Speaker 8>So during the break we will take a look at

1031
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:38.519
<v Speaker 8>the listener questions. And we have Bill Rancho from Mirage, California.

1032
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:40.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh, Rancho, Mirage, we used that's where we started.

1033
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:47.800
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, from over there, I'm from Midwest. That's Rancho.

1034
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:54.559
<v Speaker 4>There's nothing mister Mirage, we have your answer, he asks.

1035
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:56.920
<v Speaker 8>I'm tired of type trying to type into my iPhone

1036
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:59.320
<v Speaker 8>with that little on screen keyboard. One of the reasons

1037
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:01.119
<v Speaker 8>I missed my black Berry is that there was an

1038
00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:03.719
<v Speaker 8>actual physical keyboard that would easily connect and give me

1039
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:04.280
<v Speaker 8>a keyboard.

1040
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he said he.

1041
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.480
<v Speaker 9>Would carry his desktop computer computer keyboard with him, but

1042
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:11.880
<v Speaker 9>it would be covers. Well, I mean, yeah, right, yeah,

1043
00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:14.159
<v Speaker 9>any Bluetooth keyboard will work.

1044
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:15.559
<v Speaker 3>They've got a couple that.

1045
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:18.440
<v Speaker 8>Even They even have some that connect to the lightning

1046
00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:21.360
<v Speaker 8>adapter or the USBC for the new phone. So if

1047
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:23.840
<v Speaker 8>you don't want to have a battery powered one, if

1048
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:26.519
<v Speaker 8>you're looking for ones that are going to be more orgonomical,

1049
00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:27.880
<v Speaker 8>like get the ones that you can look at the

1050
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:30.639
<v Speaker 8>ones they have for the iPads. They have them other So.

1051
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:33.039
<v Speaker 1>The Logitech K four eighty is kind of cool. It's

1052
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:35.119
<v Speaker 1>got a little groove you use it with the tablet

1053
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>or a smartphone. That one's kind of nice. And you

1054
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.719
<v Speaker 1>could switch between three Bluetooth devices.

1055
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:41.920
<v Speaker 3>So that's cool.

1056
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:45.079
<v Speaker 1>But I want to check out and I think you

1057
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:47.079
<v Speaker 1>just you just did a highlight of one.

1058
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I want to check this out. Clicks.

1059
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:54.119
<v Speaker 1>They it actually so your phone snaps into it and

1060
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:54.840
<v Speaker 1>it gives you.

1061
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:57.159
<v Speaker 3>Like a black blue it looks like a BlackBerry. Yeah,

1062
00:53:57.400 --> 00:53:58.360
<v Speaker 3>exactly like it.

1063
00:53:58.440 --> 00:54:01.719
<v Speaker 6>If he's talking about missing the BlackBerry keyboard specific I

1064
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:04.440
<v Speaker 6>think clicks. I'm looking at this right now. Clicks is

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<v Speaker 6>definitely the way to go. Your phone will snap in

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<v Speaker 6>there and you'll have the same old school feel of

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<v Speaker 6>that BlackBerry keyboard with like the physical pressable buttons. But

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<v Speaker 6>you know, a concern someone would have with that is like, well,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm I going to lose the other features with this case.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm seeing like you're still having mag Safe is

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<v Speaker 6>built in there. It's got passed through USB, so you're

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<v Speaker 6>still able to transfer your data like you're you get

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<v Speaker 6>all that space on your screen that normally where your

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<v Speaker 6>keyboard like comes up, get all that back because you

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<v Speaker 6>have the physical keyboard, so your screen looks like two

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<v Speaker 6>times size. Now, So that's that might be the way

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<v Speaker 6>to go.

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<v Speaker 3>A little pricey though, aren't they. I mean it's yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 7>Looks like a little prissy. About one hundred and.

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<v Speaker 3>Sixty clicks dot tech is the website addressed.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's it for this week's tick Maark Radio. I

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<v Speaker 1>made me tailored I'm Sean.

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<v Speaker 6>Weird, I am Slick, I'm mat Joe, and I'm Justin.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me find us on the web tech talk radio

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<v Speaker 4>dot com. Have yourselves great week.

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<v Speaker 7>See you, m
