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Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm.
Speaker 4: Seana Weird, I'm Slick, I'm Matt Jones, and I'm justin leme.
Speaker 1: It's good to see everybody. I think this is the
Speaker 1: most we've had on a show in months.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Can you is it room for all of these people
Speaker 5: in the screen.
Speaker 3: We're all fitting in here.
Speaker 5: Boy.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we were gonna have a guest today and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm kind of bummed because they weren't able to make it.
Speaker 1: And we were to talk about UFOs hmm, a little
Speaker 1: different kind of interested in that, So here for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you were like the first one to chime in. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready. The reason is we'll just go
Speaker 1: We'll go ahead and talk about this. There's a guy
Speaker 1: named Luis Elizondo and he's written a book. It's called
Speaker 1: Immiment Imminent Imminent, Thank you. What is an imminent Imminent
Speaker 1: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt.
Speaker 6: Andy, do you smell burnt toast?
Speaker 5: What? Wait that?
Speaker 3: What would that mean?
Speaker 6: That would mean the stroke is real?
Speaker 3: Oh man, you were saying, thanks a lot, Thanks a lot, guys.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: Anyway, this guy, Lewis Alessandro has written a book called
Speaker 1: Imminent Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs and I guess
Speaker 1: he's the former head of the Pentagon program investigating UAPs.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what those are.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: And he's been on Joe Rogan's show. Uh.
Speaker 1: And this woman who knows him, Teresa Tendell, was gonna
Speaker 1: come on because he's going to be at the rialto
Speaker 1: theater coming up on the third. Uh. And she knows
Speaker 1: him as a former director of the Maryland State Muffun Chapter.
Speaker 3: M What is Muffun? Anybody know?
Speaker 5: I had that up on my screen. I did look
Speaker 5: that up in advance because you can find it keep
Speaker 5: going often Mutual UFO Network.
Speaker 6: Wow, all right, Oh well, okay, two UFO and UAP
Speaker 6: is Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well sounds like kind of cool. I
Speaker 1: really wanted to get her on the show, but just
Speaker 1: doesn't look like we were able to do that. Either way,
Speaker 1: we got us. So how's everybody doing?
Speaker 5: I like my flying sauces in purple?
Speaker 1: And all right, here's here's here's the go around here
Speaker 1: it is, has anybody experienced a unidentified flying object?
Speaker 7: Well, I tell.
Speaker 4: You what this one time he's up by the park.
Speaker 4: I saw this and they took me. Man, they took me,
Speaker 4: I swear.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, don't ask any new questions.
Speaker 7: You don't want to know what they did to me
Speaker 7: up there.
Speaker 3: Was it bad?
Speaker 7: It was bad? Yeah, I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 6: Did you like it?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: Well that's a good answer.
Speaker 7: Okay, this show is getting off to a weird start.
Speaker 1: It really is really bizarre. Uh sho, sean your way
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 8: And uh, I can't say that I have. I mean,
Speaker 8: I've seen a lot of weird stuff in the sky,
Speaker 8: try and chasing the door of the lights in the
Speaker 8: space station, but it's usually something that can be explained
Speaker 8: or tracked, like a plane or space debris or satellites
Speaker 8: or whatever. But yeah, nothing, nothing in the extraterrestrial category.
Speaker 7: Anyways.
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of want did people talk about
Speaker 1: UFOs before Close Encounters of the Third Kind? You know,
Speaker 1: before the movie came out.
Speaker 8: I mean, you have to define UFOs, right, because it's
Speaker 8: like historic There is documentation of tribes and Indians with
Speaker 8: just the depictions of stuff in the sky, right, So
Speaker 8: what is that to them?
Speaker 9: That's in a UFO?
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 8: So I'm sure that over the years things have evolved
Speaker 8: and you get those legends that turn into myths and
Speaker 8: things like that, Right, So they kind of get passed
Speaker 8: down over the years and turn into you know, stuff
Speaker 8: that spooks spooks people slick.
Speaker 3: Well, have you ever experienced anything?
Speaker 5: Well, I was gonna say, I'm here in the two
Speaker 5: sumth metropolitan area. I'm going to assume that you and
Speaker 5: Justin may have heard of some people saying, because I've
Speaker 5: you know, I've heard it multiple times over many years.
Speaker 5: There were three lights and they moved in a manner
Speaker 5: that's unusual to you know, how airplanes fly. And there
Speaker 5: was a time I was staying far west of let say, Tucson,
Speaker 5: to be on the mountain over there and right yeah,
Speaker 5: picture yeah, and off in the distance I'm gonna say southwest,
Speaker 5: there seemed to be some aerial vehicles. You know, I
Speaker 5: won't say three lights, but yeah, it could have been
Speaker 5: three lights that seemed to be moving in a way
Speaker 5: I can't explain. You know, I'm not going to say
Speaker 5: I ever saw UFO, but because I remember somebody going, hey,
Speaker 5: come take a look, and I'm like, well, okay, but
Speaker 5: I'm just not sure. Have you not heard those stories,
Speaker 5: cause it's been you know, a lot of people around
Speaker 5: here have told it for many.
Speaker 1: Many I remember about ten years ago driving on the
Speaker 1: ten heading to California for a trip to visit the family,
Speaker 1: and it was over i would say, between Phoenix and Tucson,
Speaker 1: just a string of lights. And you know, now people
Speaker 1: say the string of lights and right away people say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's that's Starlink. You know, that's the Starlink satellites, and
Speaker 1: that's how it's But ten years ago they weren't doing that,
Speaker 1: and I remember seeing them and I've thought, what the
Speaker 1: heck is that? And it was just like in a row.
Speaker 1: But then again, I guess it could have been satellites
Speaker 1: were up ten years ago, so it's very possible.
Speaker 7: I've never personally had an experience.
Speaker 3: Even up in Colorado.
Speaker 7: Nope, no, no, I can't say I have.
Speaker 8: I will say though, that in my amateur radio days,
Speaker 8: right the stuff that I didn't hand radio. It's fun
Speaker 8: to tune in and listen to stuff that you don't
Speaker 8: necessarily know what it is, right, It's usually just garbled,
Speaker 8: but it sounds cool. So you could count that as
Speaker 8: I've probably heard alien stuff. But who here remembers doing
Speaker 8: SETI at home?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, SETI.
Speaker 1: SETI was the search for Extraterrestrial intelligence, right, correct?
Speaker 8: Yeah, So one of my mentors who just recently passed away,
Speaker 8: got me into SETI when I worked at Fox, So
Speaker 8: this would have been back in twenty ten, and I
Speaker 8: had it on any computer that I owned, and it
Speaker 8: was running twenty four to seven until they shut it down,
Speaker 8: probably four or five years ago. And it was just
Speaker 8: cool to watch, right, And who knows what they did
Speaker 8: with the data. It got sent to Berkeley and they
Speaker 8: analyzed it. But what did that mean?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 8: So maybe one day I'll get an email saying, hey,
Speaker 8: this piece of information that your CPU calculated was alien
Speaker 8: technology or something.
Speaker 9: That's what I'm hoping for.
Speaker 5: Help me out. It said it, because I remember hearing
Speaker 5: about it, and it was to me it was you
Speaker 5: installed a bunch of people installed software on the computer
Speaker 5: to assist with processing and searching of something.
Speaker 8: So basically think of it like crypto mining data data
Speaker 8: from Berkeley off of satellites and radio telescopes, Like they
Speaker 8: was just a peer to peer data exchange. Your CPU
Speaker 8: was processing raw like data from satellites and the gigahertz
Speaker 8: spectrums and very I mean you could kind of watch it. It
Speaker 8: would tell you what chunks you were you were scanning,
Speaker 8: so it would tell you like, you're on this array
Speaker 8: and it's scanning in the twenty three gigaheard spectrum, and
Speaker 8: it would just tell you was scanning that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and it's just there was just I mean,
Speaker 4: with all the different radio telescopes arrays out there, there's
Speaker 4: just so much data that we're pulling down. There was
Speaker 4: no way they would ever be able to do it themselves,
Speaker 4: even with a supercomputer. So that's why they created this
Speaker 4: happens And it was one of the forgive me if
Speaker 4: I'm wrong, but I think it was one of the first,
Speaker 4: if not the first, like distributed cloud computing.
Speaker 9: I would agree with that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And it was very popular in the in the
Speaker 8: nerd community, and it was kind of fun to compete
Speaker 8: with your friends and say, hey, I've got this many
Speaker 8: chunks decoded.
Speaker 9: Or whatever whatever. It was you have this many points
Speaker 9: and it got people in trouble.
Speaker 8: So this was before crypto, right, right, So you had
Speaker 8: people installing them on work servers and things like that.
Speaker 8: I actually got in trouble for putting it on some
Speaker 8: computers at work that had higher processing power at the time.
Speaker 9: And was using the you know, the company's power on
Speaker 9: the internet.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 9: So it just was because you could get a higher
Speaker 9: score than your friends.
Speaker 1: Isn't it a shame that you got in trouble for
Speaker 1: doing that? Not mining crypto?
Speaker 9: It was it, I know, I mean I knew better
Speaker 9: than that with crypto.
Speaker 4: Well that's the thing you mentioned using the you know
Speaker 4: company's internet or whatever. Honestly, it really didn't require hardly
Speaker 4: any internet because it would just go online. It would
Speaker 4: download a chunk of data and then it would sit
Speaker 4: there and chew on that data for hours and hours
Speaker 4: and hours and hours, and then once it had its results,
Speaker 4: then it would just upload that back to the to
Speaker 4: Berkeley and then it would download a new set of data.
Speaker 4: So it's not like you had to be connected to
Speaker 4: the Internet at all times.
Speaker 1: Wow, So you were actually helping the government and doing
Speaker 1: the research through different parts of the world.
Speaker 3: Wherever you were, and however you were able to connect.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so like the SETI is still exists, right, so
Speaker 8: that that part didn't go away. It's just this part
Speaker 8: of it the funding ran out or whatever, so you
Speaker 8: can still go check out and do SETI and all
Speaker 8: that stuff. And there's actually another program that kind of
Speaker 8: an offshoot event called HARP. It's I don't remember what
Speaker 8: the acronym stands for, but it's another high frequency radio
Speaker 8: project that uses your CPU power GP power to scan.
Speaker 6: High frequency active oral research program. They actually did something
Speaker 6: similar in order Lands three. When you got to a
Speaker 6: certain town in the game, they actually in game they
Speaker 6: had what looked like the standard arcade machine and they
Speaker 6: told you when you started playing this game in a game,
Speaker 6: they were like, hey, just to let you know, this
Speaker 6: is not just a game. You are researching folded proteins, yes,
Speaker 6: and the work that you're doing here. So now any
Speaker 6: gamer that played Borderlands three, and even if they only
Speaker 6: played that for like two minutes, they're now listed on
Speaker 6: a research paper because enough people played and did that
Speaker 6: that they actually managed to get the answers that they
Speaker 6: were looking for. Doing all the simulated protein holding and
Speaker 6: things like that. I'm like, you, guys, all you have
Speaker 6: to do is tap into the competitive nature of gamers,
Speaker 6: Like that's all you have to do, Like as Sean
Speaker 6: put it out, like, you know, coming in being like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I bet that really awesome new PC. These are a
Speaker 6: number of pieces I've gotten decoded. How about you there, Johnny,
Speaker 6: And Johnny's like, well, dang it, I gotta go get
Speaker 6: a new processor and catch up. Like just tap into
Speaker 6: that competitive nature and yeah, well we'll get it taken
Speaker 6: care for you.
Speaker 1: You know, kind of wonder with the technology that we
Speaker 1: have and the satellites that I've been put up, do
Speaker 1: you think that that's going to help in community, either
Speaker 1: communication or actually justifying that there could be intelligent life
Speaker 1: out there as an alternate world.
Speaker 6: There's a couple of theories as to why we haven't
Speaker 6: or you know, if we have, why we haven't had
Speaker 6: sustained communication with any form of extraterrestrial the couple of
Speaker 6: different theories. There's one that is the young universe theory,
Speaker 6: which the Milky Way is relatively a young galaxy in
Speaker 6: terms of the age of our universe. You know, we
Speaker 6: are we are still kind of at the at the
Speaker 6: early lengths of how long this place is gonna last.
Speaker 6: So it could just be through some works and flukes.
Speaker 6: We have just showed up first, and other biological life
Speaker 6: forms are still evolving, still catching up. There's also the
Speaker 6: Great Barrier theory, which is as civilization becomes sufficiently technologically advanced,
Speaker 6: they have to try and pass through what they refer
Speaker 6: to as the Great Barrier and survive and move on
Speaker 6: towards interstellar explorations. The great barriers basically, you discover the
Speaker 6: power of the atom, don't kill yourselves with it, don't
Speaker 6: nuclear planet, and so far known as the that and
Speaker 6: we're walking down the way to being like time for
Speaker 6: that test of the Great barrier that we are. We're
Speaker 6: gonna take an l on that one.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: And the scariest one for me is the great silence,
Speaker 6: which is there are tons of other species out there,
Speaker 6: and right now we're basically doing the equivalent of like
Speaker 6: taking a megaphone and screaming into like downtown.
Speaker 10: I'm from Earth and my name is Bob. Here's my address,
Speaker 10: here's the code to my front door. Here's how you
Speaker 10: find me in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we are telling everyone exactly how to find this,
Speaker 6: But the great silence theory is that all these other
Speaker 6: life forms that are out there, like there is one
Speaker 6: super predator species and everyone is like, dude, shut up,
Speaker 6: he is going to find you like you are telling
Speaker 6: him how to get in the shut up. It's gonna
Speaker 6: show up in your planet's gonna get turned into a marble,
Speaker 6: all right, marvel.
Speaker 1: When it comes to when it comes to movies, think
Speaker 1: about it. I mentioned Close Encounters of the Third Kind,
Speaker 1: which is a great movie. I mean even I think
Speaker 1: it still holds up today pretty much. I mean, the
Speaker 1: visual effects were outstanding, so it didn't you know, crack
Speaker 1: that that belief that something really wasn't happening. You had
Speaker 1: this amazing photography and then you had that great score.
Speaker 1: But you have the great characters, Richard Dreyfus, Melinda Dillon,
Speaker 1: the people they ran into that also believed in UFOs
Speaker 1: And then you know, is it a government conspiracy and
Speaker 1: just just a great movie?
Speaker 3: Again, I think it just it stands up today.
Speaker 1: But is there another movie that we're missing that maybe
Speaker 1: best highlights the search for extraterrestrial intelligence that maybe we're
Speaker 1: not even thinking about. I mean, Interstellar was that would
Speaker 1: that be close to it or Fire in the Sky,
Speaker 1: which a lot of people said that that was, and
Speaker 1: that was based on a story here in Arizona. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember that one came
Speaker 1: out in nineteen ninety three, and again it was based
Speaker 1: on a true story. James Garner I think was in
Speaker 1: the movie, and it took place in the White Mountains
Speaker 1: up near a globe, Arizona.
Speaker 3: Just a pretty pretty.
Speaker 1: Scary, pretty freaky movie about an actual you know, alien abduction.
Speaker 1: If you want to see the movie, it's streaming on
Speaker 1: Pluto TV, which is that free service again, Pluto TV.
Speaker 3: You can check it out there. I know, Slick. What
Speaker 3: are your thoughts?
Speaker 5: Justin just said I was thinking about the same thing
Speaker 5: with methemal sale Meg. It only takes one borg, just one.
Speaker 7: Just the one. What about what about the movie Contact.
Speaker 6: With Yeah, no, that that is another good one.
Speaker 4: And what's the other one that just came out recently
Speaker 4: with Amy Adams or whatever? It was this kind of
Speaker 4: the same style of contact. It was people said it
Speaker 4: was very similar to that Arrival.
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I'll hear the thing.
Speaker 4: But here's my I wanted to mention this my favorite
Speaker 4: theory on one on all this is. You know, obviously
Speaker 4: technology has increased and we start to see more and
Speaker 4: more of these quote unquote sightings of of UFOs or
Speaker 4: potential aliens. I think my favorite theory is all of
Speaker 4: these other alien species out there are they're just funneling
Speaker 4: into the arena and getting their front row seats because
Speaker 4: we're about to blow ourselves up and they just want
Speaker 4: to get the best view possible.
Speaker 3: Weren't you cheery?
Speaker 6: I mean, I agree with them. I'm sorry. And there's
Speaker 6: the the one of the other things. Two things one
Speaker 6: looping backs. When we were talking about the movies, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna go a real old school I'm gonna go for
Speaker 6: the nineteen fifty one version the Day of the Earth
Speaker 6: stood Still?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah are oh yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Not the Keanu Reeves one, you know.
Speaker 6: The OG nineteen fifty one, the original version of the
Speaker 6: Day the Earth stood Still where we had somebody land
Speaker 6: and they're like, we're here to help kind of because
Speaker 6: you guys are screwed. Man, Wait, what was it?
Speaker 3: What was the other one? There was a movie with
Speaker 3: a dog, do you remember?
Speaker 1: The dog was walking around with a human head, and
Speaker 1: that's when they said, okay, there's something wrong here. Uh,
Speaker 1: Pierce Brosnan was in it. It was a huge mass attacks,
Speaker 1: Mars attacks.
Speaker 5: That's the one.
Speaker 11: Jack Nicholson playing like eighteen different roles in that movie.
Speaker 11: I remember watching that in high school and we we
Speaker 11: I was in Navy j R.
Speaker 6: O TC in high school was the elective I basically
Speaker 6: lived in and we just like we had to pause
Speaker 6: the movie and stop when we saw Jack Nicholson's uh,
Speaker 6: his his army jacket when he was one of his
Speaker 6: general characters. Because there's there's a rule that they're always
Speaker 6: in Hollywood, if you're doing if you're portraying somebody in
Speaker 6: a military uniform, there always has to be something wrong.
Speaker 6: You not be a true, entirely accurate uniform. There always
Speaker 6: has to be something wrong so that people can't just
Speaker 6: be like, oh, you wear that and I can walk
Speaker 6: on base. He his army jacket had the same ribbons
Speaker 6: that my Cadet j R. O T C uniform had
Speaker 6: on because they use Navy Junior R O T C
Speaker 6: ribbons relative Like, wait a minute, that looks like a
Speaker 6: participation ribbon he generates. Look, there's the unit citation ribbon.
Speaker 6: I got that online like funny.
Speaker 5: Mean, as you mentioned that because I got in trouble
Speaker 5: for wearing a general steps like Big Time used to
Speaker 5: work on the basis, Yes, yeah, I lived on a
Speaker 5: military installation. I'm a military brat and I was wearing
Speaker 5: it because I got it in the second hand store
Speaker 5: and got I got my got my sponsor, I got
Speaker 5: my second step father. Big trouble because I refused to
Speaker 5: take it off. It's like, well, you can take off
Speaker 5: the hat and we can take off your stripes, all right.
Speaker 1: So if if you want to attend this event, uh,
Speaker 1: Louis Celizan though the author of this book, he looks
Speaker 1: pretty serious, looks like a very serious guy, h imminent
Speaker 1: inside the Pentagon's hunt for UFOs. It's going to be
Speaker 1: at the rialto Theater tomorrow as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: so you can get more information about that if you
Speaker 1: want to check out the show. The doors will open
Speaker 1: at seven pm. Tickets are twenty bucks up to sixty
Speaker 1: dollars depending where you're going to be seating. It's reserve
Speaker 1: seating all ages six and over. And again, the door's
Speaker 1: open at seven The show will start at eight pm.
Speaker 1: And again, the guy's former ahead of the Pentagon's UFO
Speaker 1: investigation unit and it should be a really interesting discussion,
Speaker 1: especially if you like extraterrestrial science. You know, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a serious talk about UFOs.
Speaker 3: I honestly enjoyed it. I thought that was pretty good.
Speaker 5: All right, we don't forget about served man. By the way, guys,
Speaker 5: that's to one the other morning when I think.
Speaker 1: That's the Twilight the Twilight Zone episode. Do you all
Speaker 1: remember that one?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Oh, just okay, you've got Justin. You had one
Speaker 5: episode Justin. I can't tell you, but you got a watch?
Speaker 3: Oh you have it? Seen it?
Speaker 5: Justin?
Speaker 4: It's really into the I'm not in a Twilight Zone
Speaker 4: or Black Mirror or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love Black Black Mirror was great too.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for him Charlie Booker to put out a
Speaker 1: brand new season of that.
Speaker 3: Sean, did you see any of those?
Speaker 5: No, why don't you two get together like this weekend?
Speaker 6: How are we gonna do this viewing party?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'll tell you what. We'll take a break,
Speaker 1: we come back. We're we've got a guess that I
Speaker 1: do believe we're gonna have on the show. So again, uh,
Speaker 1: talking about a camera they've developed. He's been on the
Speaker 1: show before, So that'll be good. I know that'll be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And with both Sean and Justin,
Speaker 1: you know, with the broadcasting background, it should be interesting
Speaker 1: to see what he's gonna tell us about this brand
Speaker 1: new camera.
Speaker 6: I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean dea Weird, I'm Slick, I'm
Speaker 6: Matt Jones, and I'm Justin.
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Speaker 1: Some months ago, we were blessed to have Richard Newman
Speaker 1: from sub to R on the show and sub to
Speaker 1: are at the time it's put out this amazing green
Speaker 1: screen that kind of changed the whole process. And you
Speaker 1: may have seen the interview. It's available up on our
Speaker 1: website at tech talk radio dot com.
Speaker 3: But Richard had kind.
Speaker 1: Of teased a little bit that they were working on
Speaker 1: a brand new camera design. When somebody tells you that,
Speaker 1: you say, well, wait, you've got so many cameras out
Speaker 1: there on the market, how is yours going to be different? Well,
Speaker 1: when we all got a chance to see Richard pop
Speaker 1: into our screen here and the quality of the camera,
Speaker 1: we all kind of stepped back a little and said Wow,
Speaker 1: it's what they have developed at sub to Are and
Speaker 1: we're happy to have Richard Duman on the show again.
Speaker 3: Richard, it's good to talk to you.
Speaker 12: Thank you for having me back. I really love being here,
Speaker 12: so it's great. And of course you're just gonna have
Speaker 12: to hit mute and kick me off. I'm going to
Speaker 12: blather about our camera like crazy.
Speaker 1: So well, you know, the camera is neat because it
Speaker 1: speaks for itself. I mean, we look at the quality
Speaker 1: that we're getting off the camera.
Speaker 3: It's it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 12: It really is what we've set out to build from
Speaker 12: day one, which which is to give people a professional
Speaker 12: broadcast quality but with the ease of use of a webcam.
Speaker 5: And we do not.
Speaker 12: I think we called a webcam because we're not. I mean,
Speaker 12: that gives people the idea that you know, we're fifty
Speaker 12: two teeny tiny sensor, right, you know, we're not. We
Speaker 12: built this camera using a Sony iMX two ninety four
Speaker 12: image sensor, which is a micro four third censor for
Speaker 12: you guys and broadcast, you know that they're much bigger sensor,
Speaker 12: not quite cinematic yet, but for what we're doing, it's
Speaker 12: amazingly huge. It's like sixteen times bigger than what you
Speaker 12: find anywhere else. Allows us to use micro four thirds glass,
Speaker 12: which I should hold it up. This is this is
Speaker 12: all the bigger it is.
Speaker 7: Oh wow, not big at.
Speaker 12: All now, little teeny tiny guy.
Speaker 4: Is it front heavy with that lens on it? Or
Speaker 4: does it have like a mounting bracket to hold it
Speaker 4: onto a mount?
Speaker 12: Thank you for asking that question. It's got two quarter
Speaker 12: twenties on the bottom which allow you to adjust the
Speaker 12: center of gravity depending upon how heavy a lens you
Speaker 12: put on, because some glasses really heavy, some is really light,
Speaker 12: so you have a chance to adjust the balance. We
Speaker 12: have three of those on the top so you can
Speaker 12: also hang it from above. We also have rack mount groups.
Speaker 12: Can't see them too well, but you've got rock mount
Speaker 12: groups on the side, and you have rock mount groups
Speaker 12: on the bottom, which means that you can hang this
Speaker 12: thing and mount this thing from a gazillion different directions.
Speaker 3: In developing this camera, Richard, you're obviously we're looking for
Speaker 3: a solution for maybe a something that you had not
Speaker 3: seen in them market. What was that?
Speaker 12: What we started out with, you know, building a camera
Speaker 12: for Twitch and what we saw is when people got
Speaker 12: tired of a webcam. The next thing they did is
Speaker 12: they moved up to a DSLRYE. And DSLRs are complicated,
Speaker 12: they're cumbersome to set up, they're expensive by the time
Speaker 12: you get all the fake batteries and all the other
Speaker 12: stuff you have to do, and they're really not easy
Speaker 12: to use. I'll be honest. I got a DSLR that
Speaker 12: we use for, you know, behind the sceneshoots, and the
Speaker 12: first thing I do is put it on auto because
Speaker 12: I will never learn all of the commands in there, right,
Speaker 12: And we realize that that's kind of who our audience is.
Speaker 12: I mean, you really don't want to become an expert
Speaker 12: camera person. That takes years of study and and a
Speaker 12: lot of knowledge. So the thing that makes webcam great
Speaker 12: is that you know, you plug it any turn on works,
Speaker 12: but the quality you'll never get there with the teeny
Speaker 12: tiny sensors that they use. So we set out to
Speaker 12: build a camera that was based on larger format image sensor,
Speaker 12: larger format glass and then make that as easy to
Speaker 12: use as a webcam, and then keep the price down
Speaker 12: to where it's reasonable and it's comparable. And we went
Speaker 12: with micro four thirds because when you move up to
Speaker 12: a DSLR, you find that if you have a Sony
Speaker 12: camera or a canon Ae camera, only canon Ae lenses
Speaker 12: will work on it. And you can get lens of
Speaker 12: adapters in some work and some don't. But yeah, that's
Speaker 12: the problem. So the idea was Golden micro four thirds
Speaker 12: because micro four thirds is an industry standard. And while
Speaker 12: I will tell you that anything universal is not universal,
Speaker 12: it realized as it supports. We learn the hard way,
Speaker 12: but we support the basic power functions of micro four
Speaker 12: thirds lenses and this gives the end user the opportunity
Speaker 12: to select from a massive amount of glass that's out
Speaker 12: there and a really reasonable price. The lenses are interchangeable.
Speaker 12: That's the point we wanted to get to. The other
Speaker 12: thing we want We learned is that people need power lenses.
Speaker 12: They need power focus, they need power aperture. Our original
Speaker 12: camera that came out was a manual focus and if
Speaker 12: the camera is too far away, they can't reach the
Speaker 12: lens to focus.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 12: Going with microphort, the it's allows you to have on
Speaker 12: desktop control of focus and zoom and aperture. But now
Speaker 12: the fund begins because on the output side, so this
Speaker 12: is a this is a development camera, and what you'll
Speaker 12: see is you've got an HDMI output here, you have
Speaker 12: a USB going to get it right, Yes, you have
Speaker 12: USB output. We actually have video out over USB. We
Speaker 12: have dual on the studio four sixty. We have dual
Speaker 12: twelve gig SDI outputs. Plus we have a gen lock input,
Speaker 12: so if you're doing multiple cameras, you can genlock them.
Speaker 12: And then this sweet little thing, this is called an
Speaker 12: SFP plus cage, and the SFP plus cage allows you
Speaker 12: to buy little off the shelf modules I see Matt
Speaker 12: nodding his head, and convert the video output in absolutely
Speaker 12: anything you want that's off the shelf. So if you
Speaker 12: wanted this to be optical output and have a forty
Speaker 12: kilometer range on it, you can get you can get
Speaker 12: a module that slides in the back. If you have
Speaker 12: a square one that has HDMI and you go, I
Speaker 12: really want upgrade SDI, you can buy an SDI, can
Speaker 12: vert or vice versa. That's really the advantage of these
Speaker 12: SFP cages. You can ndi IP. That's what I think
Speaker 12: is a really cool feature about the camera is that
Speaker 12: you're not stuck with a video output and all of
Speaker 12: our outputs are depending upon the video format is a
Speaker 12: four K sixty output camera is a native twelve bit
Speaker 12: color depthning find your outpuit it usually drops to ten,
Speaker 12: but inside all of our processing is done. It's all
Speaker 12: the color. The other thing that's important for broadcasters is
Speaker 12: that we have virtually no latency. The most you will
Speaker 12: be is one frame behind reality or sixteen milliseconds.
Speaker 4: So does the processing happen on board or does it
Speaker 4: utilize the computer that it's connected to to process.
Speaker 12: No, all the all the processes happen on board. We
Speaker 12: run at This is an FPG eight that based camera.
Speaker 12: There's no ask on board, which means that all of
Speaker 12: the video pipeline is software based, and so we can
Speaker 12: you can upgrade it, you can modify it. Our dream
Speaker 12: down the road is to make it modulars and you
Speaker 12: actually have access to parts of the ip you know,
Speaker 12: the image processing pipeline, and can make changes yourself. So
Speaker 12: if you want to, for instance, adjust the color converter
Speaker 12: at the end, if you want to add in you
Speaker 12: know you don't like the way we do, demo's egg
Speaker 12: and you can implement your own demos agging. Our goal
Speaker 12: of this camera was to make it an open architecture,
Speaker 12: not open source open architecture because we believe that building
Speaker 12: a platform for people to innovate is where this is
Speaker 12: going to be very powerful. I'm willing to bet we're
Speaker 12: the only camera company in the world that if you
Speaker 12: crack the case etched on our motherboard, it says, if
Speaker 12: you've come this far, explore, innovate, and create, And we
Speaker 12: actually give you places to hook into the major components
Speaker 12: on the motherboard, and we give you the knowledge base
Speaker 12: and the tools to play.
Speaker 7: Oh wow.
Speaker 12: We started out being R and D guys, right, you know,
Speaker 12: engineers exploring and we needed to build a platform. So
Speaker 12: this is basically a dead kit shoved in a box
Speaker 12: to make it look like a beautiful camera. On the back,
Speaker 12: there's a little bank of square connectors.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was wondered about that.
Speaker 12: We offer a external ice wirt C comport. Ice wort
Speaker 12: C is kind of a universal language that electronic components
Speaker 12: talk to each other the very simple slow communication protocol.
Speaker 12: We also have a PTO of power takeoff on the
Speaker 12: back as well, five bolts, so it's available to drive
Speaker 12: certain things. If you wanted to control, for instance, our
Speaker 12: green screen, you don't have to have a separate control
Speaker 12: panel for the green screen and for the camera camera
Speaker 12: can control a green screen. Our goal again down the
Speaker 12: road is it can also control the lights in the
Speaker 12: It can also control a gimbal. It can also control
Speaker 12: a cat feed. Or we don't care. That's the beauty
Speaker 12: of I squirts see is it doesn't really care. You
Speaker 12: just say this address is this device, here's the registers,
Speaker 12: here's how you write to it, you know, and you
Speaker 12: can send commands back and forth to the host command panel,
Speaker 12: the control panel. You have one point of entry that
Speaker 12: allows you to control what's going going on in the room.
Speaker 12: And if you carry this to the extent that we
Speaker 12: want to. You think of auto exposure. Auto exposure just
Speaker 12: changes the aperture and the exposure on the camera itself,
Speaker 12: but does nothing to the outside environment. What if auto
Speaker 12: exposure could adjust your lights?
Speaker 7: Oh wow, that's a good thought.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 12: Now when you talk about the single person's studio, which
Speaker 12: is really where we're focusing, which is what everybody is
Speaker 12: right here and now every one of us is a
Speaker 12: single person's studio. We've designed this not just to be
Speaker 12: a camera, but be the focal point of a single
Speaker 12: person studio and make it easy to use.
Speaker 1: What was that moment, like when you got it together
Speaker 1: and you looked at it and you said, this is amazing,
Speaker 1: Like we're looking at it, looking at the quality. And
Speaker 1: for our listeners that are listening on the radio, if
Speaker 1: you go to our website, you'd be able to see
Speaker 1: the quality we're talking about.
Speaker 12: You've been a long journey. We've been on this path
Speaker 12: to twelve years. We can spend hours and probably shots
Speaker 12: of tequila talking about all the disasters that we've faced,
Speaker 12: from exploding motherboards to a vendor promising a forty dollars
Speaker 12: part that ended up costing us almost thirteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 12: You know, I mean it's just every mic dropping engineers,
Speaker 12: I mean taking everything with them, everything you can imagine.
Speaker 12: But this has always been our dream. And seeing the
Speaker 12: video coming off of our camera was was that moment,
Speaker 12: you know, and we said we did it. We pulled
Speaker 12: it off. We did what we had set out to do,
Speaker 12: which is not a simple task. And I remember us
Speaker 12: sitting around going when we first thoughted this, going, how
Speaker 12: are can you be to build a camera?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 12: And we had you know, we had the pontificating trolls
Speaker 12: and said, wow, you can build a camera. For forty
Speaker 12: dollars in parts. What are you guys talking about? You
Speaker 12: can if you slap a module on in our duino, maybe,
Speaker 12: but if you really want to build a camera and
Speaker 12: you start from the ground up, it is is not
Speaker 12: an in significant task. I mean, the last statistic I
Speaker 12: saw is Apple has eight hundred w two engineers doing
Speaker 12: nothing but working on the camera for their I phone.
Speaker 12: We laugh, We build our camera for what they spend
Speaker 12: on coffee and bagels.
Speaker 1: So the marketing that's got to be a chore as well,
Speaker 1: because the next step is getting it into either retail
Speaker 1: or getting it into the hands of the person that
Speaker 1: wants to buy it. How will you do this? Is
Speaker 1: it going to be through you.
Speaker 3: Know, somebody goes to the website they could order it,
Speaker 3: or will they.
Speaker 1: Be able to walk into a high end camera store
Speaker 1: or a best buy and be able to buy it?
Speaker 7: So we're.
Speaker 12: We found it with the green screen, and the green
Speaker 12: screen was a great way of understanding our customer base.
Speaker 12: It was it kind of a fun experiment. You know,
Speaker 12: who's interested? Who's buying this thing? Wasn't people we thought
Speaker 12: we're going to buy. What drives people to us to
Speaker 12: buy that are experts in the field using it going wow,
Speaker 12: this just was like, why didn't I think of this?
Speaker 12: This is a mind blow. So our plan is to
Speaker 12: build a small set of the cameras. We've got most
Speaker 12: of the parts in stock right now, and to get
Speaker 12: those in the hands of people who have two qualifications.
Speaker 12: One they understand a camera, so they understand and can
Speaker 12: talk about why this camera is different, why it's different
Speaker 12: than a webcam, why it's different than a DSLR, why
Speaker 12: it's the kind of camera if you are going to
Speaker 12: elevate your strain you want. I mean, they just you know,
Speaker 12: somebody who sells cosmetics is not our kind of influencer,
Speaker 12: and not necessarily every gamer could be an influencer. We're
Speaker 12: really looking for those people who understand and can convey
Speaker 12: to their base what it is, and then some as
Speaker 12: obviously people who have a respected following. Doesn't mean you
Speaker 12: have a million people, but it means that people come
Speaker 12: to you and seek advice. But honestly, we have a
Speaker 12: larger challenge before we get to market, and what is
Speaker 12: that up into the pandemic. We were founder funded, We
Speaker 12: were self funded. It it was you know, I joke, but
Speaker 12: slaughtered for o one case and liquidated savings in every
Speaker 12: body part we could sell on craigs and this straight
Speaker 12: we found a sole investor. I had four hundred and
Speaker 12: fifty doors slammed in my face and found a sole
Speaker 12: investor and absolutely look to be the perfect combination. I
Speaker 12: love this guy, by the way, super nice guy. We
Speaker 12: weren't even talking about investing. He said, Hey, just had
Speaker 12: a curiosity. You guys looking and raise money? Yeah, said
Speaker 12: how much? Throughout a number? He said, okay, And we
Speaker 12: got half of it, which carried us through the pandemic
Speaker 12: and got us to this camera. It got us the
Speaker 12: green screens, it got us the mouse, it got the
Speaker 12: glasses in production. I mean it was fabulous. And it
Speaker 12: came time for the second half in their bankrupt oh man.
Speaker 12: So that kind of was a shock to us because
Speaker 12: we kept asking them and they said, oh, we won't
Speaker 12: take carry no more. Don't worry about So we cut everything,
Speaker 12: absolutely everything except the very essentials. It's down to the
Speaker 12: four of us again in one engineer and the four
Speaker 12: founders again, keeping it afloat as best we can while
Speaker 12: we seek for a replacement. And that becomes the challenge
Speaker 12: for us. The difference is we have a product that's amazing.
Speaker 12: We're ready to go into production, and it's finding that
Speaker 12: person that says or that investor that says, hey, I'm
Speaker 12: willing to pick up the pieces and run with it.
Speaker 12: That's a huge challenge for any startup. Hardware is tough.
Speaker 12: Telling me build a camera. Nobody wants to talk to you.
Speaker 12: But I only have two hundred more to go and
Speaker 12: then I catch up with the last last numb which
Speaker 12: I'm doing pretty good.
Speaker 1: A man, So are you planning to go to CS
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five and obviously too, you know they
Speaker 1: have the exhibitor showcase where people get out there and
Speaker 1: they show they're good looking for investors.
Speaker 12: So I'm wondering, Yeah, they have that, they have that
Speaker 12: investor out I mean, you know, that's a good idea.
Speaker 12: I wasn't thinking I'm going to see us. We uhould
Speaker 12: get NAB right, just right, Yeah, because NAB is more.
Speaker 3: Like that's the focus.
Speaker 12: Yeah, but I should look into CEOs. I haven't been
Speaker 12: to see us in a couple of years.
Speaker 6: The other thing to think of, when you're talking about
Speaker 6: trying to find potential investors, who had said, you know,
Speaker 6: kind of the start that you were looking at creating
Speaker 6: this for you know, looking at streamers and creating a
Speaker 6: more professional feel for those streams. So you could also
Speaker 6: look at going to something like Whitchcon. I mean, you
Speaker 6: have big name streamers who have more money than frankly
Speaker 6: any of us are ever going to see in our lifetime,
Speaker 6: and it would I mean, uh, I off the top
Speaker 6: of my head, there's uh, there's a guy he's now
Speaker 6: what is it streamer sense say. I used to follow
Speaker 6: him for your when I was starting out for all
Speaker 6: my tips things like that. But you know there are
Speaker 6: people like that who would happily slap their name to
Speaker 6: be associated with something like that out the gate and
Speaker 6: be like, oh you need X amount of dollars. Well, okay,
Speaker 6: let me call my finance guy. But you know if
Speaker 6: you also if you go to something like twitch Con,
Speaker 6: then you're getting in front of all those people.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and we usually we usually do twitch Con. We
Speaker 12: did twitch Con last year. That was a blast. It
Speaker 12: was in Las Vegas and and we had tons of fun.
Speaker 12: And just the thing that that blew people away there
Speaker 12: is when I put a battery pack on the green
Speaker 12: screen and one of the guys picked up the green
Speaker 12: screen walk walked down the alley aisle with it. Oh
Speaker 12: oh my god. It just follows me wherever I go,
Speaker 12: you know, And we had is on display there. It
Speaker 12: was kind of a weird layout done and done Vegas before.
Speaker 3: So well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, Richard, and I'm just thinking, again,
Speaker 1: I'm blown away by it. We talked about a little
Speaker 1: bit about it last time we talked, and I know
Speaker 1: that we'll talk again too. I am again excited about this.
Speaker 1: Can people purchase this now?
Speaker 3: Or is this? Is this going to be coming up?
Speaker 12: So that will be coming up. What I do right
Speaker 12: now is I'm taking reservations. They just go on our
Speaker 12: website and you can reserve it. It's a no obligation reservation.
Speaker 12: But what it does is it gives me a list.
Speaker 12: And it's very important for us because when I sit
Speaker 12: in front of an investor, I go, look, we're not
Speaker 12: only promoting this, and I've got to listen. You know,
Speaker 12: one hundred and two hundred people they're lying up ready
Speaker 12: to buy this thing right now. And so that's kind
Speaker 12: of the the approach we've taken. We're we're always very cautious.
Speaker 12: It was an interesting group. We don't like it to go
Speaker 12: out and antipicate, you know, in a marketing you know,
Speaker 12: spew and then I'll produce anything. We're the other way around.
Speaker 12: We want to have a finished product and say okay,
Speaker 12: now we're ready to go. You know a lot of
Speaker 12: people say, you know, when you take pre orders, I personally,
Speaker 12: I don't want to do that till I know one
Speaker 12: hundred percent I'm going to ship your product.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, excitement.
Speaker 7: There's been many people gotten words about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah. And it's just not where It's not how we work,
Speaker 12: it's not how we want to build that reputation. I'd
Speaker 12: rather have one that we waited and when we were
Speaker 12: ready to sell. When you you know, when you commit,
Speaker 12: I'm sending you a product.
Speaker 8: So we do a lot of remote stuff at the university,
Speaker 8: right we do. We have sports venues spread out on
Speaker 8: all across campus. We use a lot of fiber. If
Speaker 8: I connect to this via a pair of single mode fiber,
Speaker 8: what is my connectivity to the device? Is it just
Speaker 8: video coming back? How do I control remotely from the
Speaker 8: user end?
Speaker 12: Just on a pair of fiber, you can get video
Speaker 12: and audio because the camera has dual onboard mics. Plus
Speaker 12: it's got an audio jack in the back, so you
Speaker 12: can essentially put a mic onto it if you wanted
Speaker 12: to control is over USB. But what we've done is
Speaker 12: we build a module that creates a mesh network, so
Speaker 12: then the camera becomes part of its own network and
Speaker 12: you can daisy chain these things together and so you
Speaker 12: can control you know, one hundred cameras from a single location,
Speaker 12: all over wireless mesh network and then you would just
Speaker 12: be running cable. You just be running either fiber or
Speaker 12: SDI back to wherever your editing station was.
Speaker 3: It's great stuff, Richard, give us the website address.
Speaker 1: Our listeners can get more about the green screen and
Speaker 1: of course the cameras and you know, and getting on
Speaker 1: this list because I might want to put my name
Speaker 1: on that list as well, because this is great quality
Speaker 1: and for broadcasts for on the list.
Speaker 6: Did you yeah, just put my name on the list.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 12: So it's it's it's www dot sub to our sub
Speaker 12: the number two the letter R dot com. And then
Speaker 12: you know, if anybody out there has questions, just info
Speaker 12: at subto our dot com, drop me an email. I
Speaker 12: respond as fast as possible and you will get a
Speaker 12: response from me, not from an AI bought or some
Speaker 12: call center and some random part of the world.
Speaker 3: You know it'll be me awesome.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming on tech talk Radio.
Speaker 1: Great stuff and looking forward to seeing this continue to develop.
Speaker 12: Thank you everyone for your hospitality and sing again soon.
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Speaker 9: So during the break, I was just spewing information about
Speaker 9: that camera.
Speaker 3: Right we were talking about the camera.
Speaker 9: Were talking about that all day long, but Andy told
Speaker 9: me I how to wrap it up.
Speaker 8: So back to So let's shift gears and talk about
Speaker 8: drugs because everybody knows I love druns.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been no update to.
Speaker 8: The Anti Drone Act, right, We've talked about how there
Speaker 8: was a bill in the House that got passed to
Speaker 8: ban drones from China and specifically Dji. Well, we talked
Speaker 8: two shows ago about their new drone, the Air three S.
Speaker 8: The US Customs and Border Protection is currently blocking imports
Speaker 8: of that dram.
Speaker 7: Oh my god man.
Speaker 8: They say the action stems from concerns about forced labor
Speaker 8: practices and some other technology based concerns. Like I said,
Speaker 8: I think Dji was cramming in as many new models
Speaker 8: of drunes as humanly possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Probably at the cop that I can put my drone
Speaker 4: that's almost brand new, I can put it up on
Speaker 4: eBay for like a premium right now.
Speaker 8: I bet once the if they passed the Anti Drone Act,
Speaker 8: people are going to be flocking to places like eBay
Speaker 8: and other third third party resellers to buy existing drones.
Speaker 9: So hold on to them.
Speaker 8: But if you can, if you can get the new
Speaker 8: one's in great, but it'll be interesting to see how
Speaker 8: the drone the drone market goes forward here.
Speaker 1: They had told me at best Buy that because I
Speaker 1: went in and I was like, where's their DJ They
Speaker 1: used to have a display and it was gone and
Speaker 1: I was like, where's your display? And I said, always
Speaker 1: it in advance. He said no, no, we're just moving it.
Speaker 1: And then the next time I had gone in, they
Speaker 1: had put the display back up, but they had no
Speaker 1: drones in there. Does that mean like Best Buy doesn't
Speaker 1: even have them on the retail shelf.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know from what I could just quickly
Speaker 9: google and find out.
Speaker 8: I'll to do some research on it, but right now
Speaker 8: it seems like they're not being allowed to import it
Speaker 8: right now.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about something I showed on television
Speaker 1: on Fox eleven this past week.
Speaker 3: But what it is.
Speaker 1: You may have seen the commercials with Shaquille O'Neill and
Speaker 1: his mom, Lucille, and they're talking about preserving Priceless Memories,
Speaker 1: which is a great ad campaign. It's the EPSO in
Speaker 1: Fast Photos six ' eighty w. This is a different
Speaker 1: type of scanner, not a flatbet scanner. It looks like
Speaker 1: a little printer and you just like you would feed
Speaker 1: the paper, and you feed the photos in and coordinating
Speaker 1: with your smartphone or your PC, you hit the scan
Speaker 1: button and it's scans of photos about two seconds per photo.
Speaker 7: Oh that's really fast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: So and you know, I've been playing around with the
Speaker 1: YouTube and a snapchat and TikTok, and so I found oh,
Speaker 1: I'll do a video on this one. And I did,
Speaker 1: and Sean saw it, and unfortunately I cost Sean five
Speaker 1: hundred bucks.
Speaker 8: I haven't bought it yet because I have to talk
Speaker 8: to Klan about it, right, But so you guys, I've
Speaker 8: talked about this before. I did this massive photo and
Speaker 8: video archive for my family, right all throughout COVID, you know,
Speaker 8: twenty nineteen through COVID. And the one thing I was
Speaker 8: struggling with, and the thing I haven't tackled yet, is
Speaker 8: if I showed you the other side of my room,
Speaker 8: the basement. Down here, I have a few cardboard beer
Speaker 8: crates full of years and years and years and years
Speaker 8: and decades worth of four by sixes, oh man, without
Speaker 8: the negatives. So the negatives got destroyed, got lost, got
Speaker 8: thrown away. So I just have the four by sixes.
Speaker 8: Now it's a painstaking process. I have the absent V
Speaker 8: six hundred, which is a fantastic scanner, right, but I
Speaker 8: can only fit about four in there at a time,
Speaker 8: and when I'm scanning at eight hundred tpi, it takes
Speaker 8: four to five minutes per four and then I got
Speaker 8: to open it and take them out. I get fingerprints
Speaker 8: on the glass. Like it's it's a big pain.
Speaker 9: Andy had sent me a one minute video of this
Speaker 9: thing spitting out eight or nine pictures in about two minutes,
Speaker 9: so that's I could just I could just stack them
Speaker 9: in there and let it run. It's gonna go.
Speaker 8: Like I was immediately said this, I have to have
Speaker 8: this for this archive project I'm working on.
Speaker 1: If you're doing them on the computer or you're doing
Speaker 1: on in your smartphone, the cool thing, Sean is you
Speaker 1: can actually in just before you hit start scan, you
Speaker 1: can tag them so you can tell that this is
Speaker 1: from nineteen forty eight, this is from nineteen forty nine,
Speaker 1: this photo is was taken in the summer. You could
Speaker 1: tag it this is you know the weird family, or
Speaker 1: you know Caitlin's family, or.
Speaker 8: Right, that's that's one of the big things that I've
Speaker 8: been struggling with is who puts the data in?
Speaker 3: Yep, And that's right.
Speaker 9: The medicata isn't get there by itself.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I'm adding that stuff in manually when i'm
Speaker 8: you know, I bulk it, right. So it's like, I
Speaker 8: have this folder from nineteen eighty and I'm telling it
Speaker 8: this is these these files, these ones i'm scanning, are
Speaker 8: this nineteen eighty, this event, these people are in them,
Speaker 8: and I'm typing all that in while I'm scanning. So
Speaker 8: this is like, this is relatively do I've never seen
Speaker 8: this before. I would have searched for this.
Speaker 9: But the only thing, obviously obviously the faster you do it,
Speaker 9: the lower the dpi. Right, it says it'll scan up
Speaker 9: to one photo per second at three hundred Pi. That's
Speaker 9: pretty low for archive.
Speaker 8: Just from the BNH Photo review, it says optical residents
Speaker 8: and six hundred ppi max resolution twelve hundred ppi.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's even better. Well, that's what he can.
Speaker 8: Do, one photo per second at three hundred. Now, if
Speaker 8: you're just doing it for like uploading him for people
Speaker 8: to look at on the web, that's more than a life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't need to go six, you can go
Speaker 3: three hundred and there. Look fine.
Speaker 1: I said them to my kids and just to see
Speaker 1: what they would say, because you know, my my daughters
Speaker 1: are in them, and my daughter sent me, you know,
Speaker 1: back saying I can't get my eyes off dad's mullet.
Speaker 5: Oh you still have that there?
Speaker 3: I had the mullet back then. Yes, kids, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean I.
Speaker 8: Encourage anybody that's doing any any sort of photo archiving.
Speaker 8: Look at this and it's it's on sale a little
Speaker 8: bit right now on B and H.
Speaker 5: So come on, Sean, just you know, you don't ask
Speaker 5: for permission, just forgiveness. You know, it's come on, you
Speaker 5: can do no. You don't know, you know, I'm divorced
Speaker 5: guy on the progra.
Speaker 1: It's the single guy on the show, the single guy
Speaker 1: of the show that said that, didn't.
Speaker 6: We have a tagline for one of the shows a
Speaker 6: few months back was me saying, I've only had to
Speaker 6: miss make that mistake one.
Speaker 9: Not to be fair, I have I have Impulse purchased
Speaker 9: on the show before, and Caitlin was the recipient of that,
Speaker 9: so maybe I could get away with something because it
Speaker 9: was the mad was like get the ution, I mean
Speaker 9: went online and bought it immediately, so I am an
Speaker 9: online impulse buyer, so I have to be careful.
Speaker 1: We're coming up to November before before we take a break.
Speaker 1: Who's getting the Microsoft sweater this year? Are they gonna
Speaker 1: do a new one?
Speaker 9: I don't know, but I probably buy it right now.
Speaker 9: It's gonna be hard to beat last year's with the
Speaker 9: Windows XP background.
Speaker 4: Oh, speaking of the Windows XP background, they actually just
Speaker 4: released a four K upscaled version of what do.
Speaker 7: They call it? Is it?
Speaker 3: Is it Bliss?
Speaker 7: Bliss? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they released a four K version of Bliss that
Speaker 4: you can download now for Windows eleven. That would that
Speaker 4: will fit you know, four K monitors.
Speaker 8: And I still have the tag from that sweater. Just
Speaker 8: happen you'd be sitting on my desk.
Speaker 7: So that's cool.
Speaker 3: Matt was looking that up. Did you see anything, Matt?
Speaker 6: I see something in the Xbox gear shot, but I
Speaker 6: don't see the official Microsoft one yet.
Speaker 1: They usually put them out by November first, so we'll
Speaker 1: have to hope that we'll have to take another look
Speaker 1: next week.
Speaker 6: Well, I definitely found what I'm gonna buy from my
Speaker 6: own ugly Christmas sweater that somebody made on their own
Speaker 6: is Clippy.
Speaker 3: The Clippy.
Speaker 6: It's it's Clippy sitting there on a stack of documents,
Speaker 6: and instead of like would you like help, it.
Speaker 3: Says happy holidays with a little.
Speaker 6: OK like right underneath it. So I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 6: pick that up and just give tons of people uh
Speaker 6: PTSD flashbacks off on the shelf.
Speaker 1: We should sell shirts with Slick as the elf of
Speaker 1: the shelf and put him in different situations. I think
Speaker 1: that would be great.
Speaker 4: Elf hat Why why why are we doing that for Christmas?
Speaker 4: That's more like a Halloween thing. We want to scare.
Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna take a quick break, we come
Speaker 1: back more of tech Talk Radio.
Speaker 3: A listener question. We'll see if we can get to
Speaker 3: that one real quick.
Speaker 6: I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean Weird, i am Sick, I'm
Speaker 6: Matt Jones, and I'm justin send us an X at
Speaker 6: tech Talk Radio.
Speaker 5: And now back to tech Talk Radio.
Speaker 8: So during the break we will take a look at
Speaker 8: the listener questions. And we have Bill Rancho from Mirage, California.
Speaker 3: Oh, Rancho, Mirage, we used that's where we started.
Speaker 9: Yeah, from over there, I'm from Midwest. That's Rancho.
Speaker 4: There's nothing mister Mirage, we have your answer, he asks.
Speaker 8: I'm tired of type trying to type into my iPhone
Speaker 8: with that little on screen keyboard. One of the reasons
Speaker 8: I missed my black Berry is that there was an
Speaker 8: actual physical keyboard that would easily connect and give me
Speaker 8: a keyboard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said he.
Speaker 9: Would carry his desktop computer computer keyboard with him, but
Speaker 9: it would be covers. Well, I mean, yeah, right, yeah,
Speaker 9: any Bluetooth keyboard will work.
Speaker 3: They've got a couple that.
Speaker 8: Even They even have some that connect to the lightning
Speaker 8: adapter or the USBC for the new phone. So if
Speaker 8: you don't want to have a battery powered one, if
Speaker 8: you're looking for ones that are going to be more orgonomical,
Speaker 8: like get the ones that you can look at the
Speaker 8: ones they have for the iPads. They have them other So.
Speaker 1: The Logitech K four eighty is kind of cool. It's
Speaker 1: got a little groove you use it with the tablet
Speaker 1: or a smartphone. That one's kind of nice. And you
Speaker 1: could switch between three Bluetooth devices.
Speaker 3: So that's cool.
Speaker 1: But I want to check out and I think you
Speaker 1: just you just did a highlight of one.
Speaker 3: I want to check this out. Clicks.
Speaker 1: They it actually so your phone snaps into it and
Speaker 1: it gives you.
Speaker 3: Like a black blue it looks like a BlackBerry. Yeah,
Speaker 3: exactly like it.
Speaker 6: If he's talking about missing the BlackBerry keyboard specific I
Speaker 6: think clicks. I'm looking at this right now. Clicks is
Speaker 6: definitely the way to go. Your phone will snap in
Speaker 6: there and you'll have the same old school feel of
Speaker 6: that BlackBerry keyboard with like the physical pressable buttons. But
Speaker 6: you know, a concern someone would have with that is like, well,
Speaker 6: I'm I going to lose the other features with this case.
Speaker 6: But I'm seeing like you're still having mag Safe is
Speaker 6: built in there. It's got passed through USB, so you're
Speaker 6: still able to transfer your data like you're you get
Speaker 6: all that space on your screen that normally where your
Speaker 6: keyboard like comes up, get all that back because you
Speaker 6: have the physical keyboard, so your screen looks like two
Speaker 6: times size. Now, So that's that might be the way
Speaker 6: to go.
Speaker 3: A little pricey though, aren't they. I mean it's yeah, it.
Speaker 7: Looks like a little prissy. About one hundred and.
Speaker 3: Sixty clicks dot tech is the website addressed.
Speaker 1: So that's it for this week's tick Maark Radio. I
Speaker 1: made me tailored I'm Sean.
Speaker 6: Weird, I am Slick, I'm mat Joe, and I'm Justin.
Speaker 4: Let me find us on the web tech talk radio
Speaker 4: dot com. Have yourselves great week.
Speaker 7: See you, m