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Speaker 1: What's up everybody. Welcome back to the show. My name

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is Adam.

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Speaker 2: I'll be your host here on Hobby Hotline. This is

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episode two twenty three. I'm here with Orlando and I'm

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also here with Uncle Rich Kline. Start with you, Orlando.

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How's your week been going.

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Speaker 3: It's great, Adam, Good to be with you guys, and

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good to be Rich. Yeah, it's good. Good week. Busy

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week with the with the election going on, and we

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had the election for Hobby President from Sportscard Radio. Yeah,

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we're gonna talk a little bit about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll start. We'll start out with that and then

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I'll start. We'll go to you first, Rich. How is

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How is your week?

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Speaker 1: What you got going on was fine?

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Speaker 4: I have no cards at home. I sold out again.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, I can't do hobby showing.

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Speaker 4: Tell I keep telling I had nice and I actually

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told out without that pesky little detail of having a

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table nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got you. Love when that happens. Love when

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you can get the inventory back in.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's one of the fun parts about cards,

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is the buying of the cards. I mean, so like

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with you're in a position where you're selling all of them,

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you know, now you get to go buy and that's

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kind of that's one of the fun parts.

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Speaker 4: And I'm pretty good at that. Nobody bottom feed. Nobody

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bottom feeds better than I do.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe doctor Beckett.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah he is.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he is a little more. He is a little

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more uh money than I do. So yeah he can

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boydom feed even better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So over this past week, here's when we got the

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first topic we had. Sports Card Radio did like a

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sports card hobby election and we had two winners here.

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I mean, I know, Orlando, you were talking about this

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a little bit before the show, So I'll let you

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kind of get into it. I'll flip flop between the two.

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We had the hobby winner and then the the hobby

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first lady, which is also you can probably tell who

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that might because she's already on the screen here, but

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I'll let you kind of get into it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just a fun thing that sports Card

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Radio decided to go along with the presidential election. They

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decided to go ahead and do a sports card YouTube

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hobby president So you know, they put up they nominated

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a whole bunch of people in there that you could

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see the top eight that were there, and there were

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a few more on there, and they did it for

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like a month and they would ended right when the

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election ended, and they did like you see the Hobby President,

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Hobby First Lady, So Alex who worked for Golden and

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doing the uh the show's uh you know on on Netflix,

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she was the Hobby First Lady and uh and Manginie

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ended up winning the Hobby President and it was great

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to see a collector like John win it, you know,

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over people like you know, the sportscard Dad or Jeff

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Wilson and yeah, Bryan Gray was in the company. They're

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Bojo Sports. We are really more flippers type thing, so

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it was kind of good to see collected there. And

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then John actually did a challenge for everyone this week.

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Anybody who does YouTube it wants to put out a video.

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He wants any ideas on how we can grow the

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hobby through collectors, mainly any ideas versus you know, the

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flipping type thing, so uh tenext to hobby but doing

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it for so that was his idea. I just thought

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it was a fun thing to do. And it's kind

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of interesting that I think John probably has one of

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the fewest UH subscriber based but the more most friends, I.

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Speaker 5: Would get yeah, right right makes YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean that's like that's one of the

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I think that's one of the biggest changes within sports cards,

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is like the social media aspect to it, because you know,

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years ago all these you know, you had people you

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probably saw at shows, but then you leave the show

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and you never you didn't hear about you didn't hear

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from him until maybe the next show. But you know,

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now with so much online content, you know somebody who

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again only you said, only has like three which now I'm.

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Speaker 3: Sure thirty eight or something like that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm sure I'm sure subscribers

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have probably gone up since winning this. I mean that's

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you know, uh, sports car Radio with thirty thirty k

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and I know they have a pretty lively audience. Let's

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just I could I think that's probably one way to

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describe the chat. I'm sure that they probably you know,

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went and subscribed, I would hope.

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Speaker 3: So quite a bit of vote you could see I

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think it was twenty eight thousand, oh yeah, yeah, right here,

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so that's quite a few people that participating in there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And.

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Speaker 3: I guess the first lady got fourteen thousand votes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, And I mean that's kind of

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one of the cool things about social media and cars nowadays.

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together like that to vote on something cool that you know,

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people are having a good time, they're you know, voting

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for stuff like that. It's all cool to see within

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the sports card industry. I guess we will transition to

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maybe a not so cool story. In February of this year,

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there was a Wayne Gretzky case that sold through Heritage

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Auctions for three point seven million dollars and the collector,

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or not the collector, the person who bought it, didn't

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pay the tab and now it's unfortunately going back up.

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So you know, Rich, I'll kick it to you first.

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What were kind of your initial thoughts when you saw

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Speaker 4: I was just as these kids nowadays say. I was smh,

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shaping my head. This is like the grepiest story I've

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heard in a long time. If you're going to bed

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three point seven million on something, don't you think somebody

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should have checked to make sure you had the money,

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or don't you think you should have had the money

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in escrow ready? If you're going to split let's say

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it's a twenty box case and each box is two

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hundred K or whatever, and you get and you get

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everybody to pay you in advance, and you just put

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that money away and you just send send the money

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to Heritage at that point and you say, okay, I've

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got my money. Everybody's going to get their boxes and

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we move on. It's just so goofy. This this is

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like missing missing things on every single level. I mean,

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I don't know the Canadian exchange anymore. Was he bidding

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in Canadian dollars, which is not a yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot, there's I mean, there's so

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many questions. It's really pretty wild.

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Speaker 4: It's just goofy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, my understanding is that he was kind of

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like an investor or something like that and not really

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as knowledgeable in the sports car business as he should

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have been, and again from canad from Canada, so obviously

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probably paid more than than that, you know. But I

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think what he was trying to do, and I heard

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that when he when he ended up buying the case,

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he was trying to either resell it or like like

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way he was even going to get his return back

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on his investment. So I think that's where he kind

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of gave up. And I also heard that he did

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have that he did give some deposit or something down

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and he probably lost that. I don't remember how much.

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had to send him some portion of the money, you know,

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it is. Yeah, yeah, that's what he tried to do,

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tried to flip it, and he was unable to and

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after all this time, he finally just gave up on it.

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whatever money he had put. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: Crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was unfortunate, and I mean, you know, I

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s I and it just didn't like looking into the

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story and reading the article on the Athletic, it just

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was like there were it seemed like there were a

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lot of red flags along the way, But at the

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same time, it's like it it could have just been

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this guy was just stringing them along. I mean, it's

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really just it's unfortunate that it had to happen with

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what what is and probably will only be the it'll

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be the only case, like you know, it's yeah, I

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think two with these, with these one of a kind items,

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it's like it almost adds to the story, I guess,

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So maybe it was a three million dollars. Maybe the

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deposit was seven hundred and twenty thousand potentially maybe, and

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then the three million dollars on the tab is what

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it says here, so maybe that's potentially what it was.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know exactly, but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it says the initial buyer said he paid three

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million of the tab.

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Speaker 2: No, it's like seven seven hundred, seven hundred thousand, probably

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because like that's if I'm I'm and I'm justind of

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piecing these two numbers together here, So I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know, yeah, you know, he he, I know, he

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paid a deposit, so he put some money out there

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and he lost it. And I think it was just

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a gamble this guy took and just when you have

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a product like that, which is a one of a kind,

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the only one that exists like that, where there is

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no comp so people are going to bid what they

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feel it's worth. But obviously the collectors knew that it

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wasn't worth that much, and this guy just kind of

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went all out for it. And you know, and when

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out because it's the only one you had, the only

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one that exists, and it could be worth what you want,

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but you know, it could also take a few years

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for get to get to that point where it will

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sell for more than the what you paid for it.

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you have to be careful with one of the kind

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items because you just never know, you know, you may

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be the only one that has that desire to pay

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that much money for it, right.

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Speaker 2: And I think the seventies Card Show had a comment

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here that, yeah, so it's the case was because when

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Baseball Card Exchange, who I believe is who wrapped the case,

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they open all the They opened the product to make

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sure everything is in there, so it gets it's not

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it is open technically, but it's not. They rewrap it basically,

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saw that in the chat and I.

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Speaker 1: Thought that was important to make.

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Speaker 2: The right Yeah, I mean, especially especially after that huge G. I.

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article they wrote that they could see that it probably.

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Speaker 1: They could see that. Sorry, I lost my train of thought.

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Speaker 3: The owner had put a hole in a little hole

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in the box to see in it. I think that's

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what it was, to make sure that the boxes were

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Speaker 1: But he in the case itself, you're saying, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 3: He kind of opened a little hole to look inside

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and see if the boxes were in there, but it

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wasn't completely open until authenticator got it right.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Oh, And I remember what I was gonna say.

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Speaker 2: In the article they were talking about how they think

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that it probably will still sell in the same range.

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completely honest, Rich, what do you think or where do

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you think this ends up selling. Do you think it

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gets back up to the three point seven or do

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you think it's not really or do you think it's

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not worth three point seven? I mean that three point

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seven million dollars is a lot, But like, what do

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Speaker 4: You know, and I'm gonna say this, I have no

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And the question is if you think it's one of

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a kind. But if the box, but if the case

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is open, then it's no longer an unopen case. And

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so what do you do then? If the case it's

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not a pure unopened case anymore? So if all the

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boxes are done, you don't have another open cases. So

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you're really trying to buy each box, And then what

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are the boxes worth? And you multiply it by whatever,

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and you say, okay, and if the box is worth

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X thousand times twenty, well then that if that's more

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than three point seven, you get it. If it's less

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than you don't, right. And it's not like the T

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tool six Wagner the Kendrick in Arizona owns that had

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a book written about it. Now, if this ever has

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a book written about it, then the prices goes up

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to the sky. This is not that type of a story.

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It's not going to have a book written about it,

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so it's not going to have quite the same cachet

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as the Wagner in the Stamp World, the British Guiana

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one cent card stand from eighteen fifty six, which is

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unique and has had probably a book written about it

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as well. This will have stories written about it, but

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there won't be a book. Where are you going to

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trace the book from?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: It doesn't have quite the same backstory. So then it

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just becomes a matter of is it what is the

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level it's really worth buying it?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, go ahead, No, I was just gonna

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I was gonna ask another question to the group here.

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Speaker 1: But you can finish over your thought there, Richard.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, I want you to finish, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I was gonna ask you

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both would So if you were to hypothetically buy this,

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do you think that you would open the boxes and

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get the cards graded? Or are you keeping it like shot?

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Speaker 4: I'm selling a pack by pack. I mean, everybody gets

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a shot at it. I'm selling it by the packs.

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We know that, we know the boxes were authenticated. So

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I said, look, this came from. Here's where I'm getting

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the case from. I'm selling you a pack. I'm not

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opening them. I'm not doing anything. They're all sealed, they're

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all put you can pay me for each pack. And

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that's how I would do it, just to spread it out,

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make it accessible to more people. I mean, if I

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really wanted to have it fun and be we'll say

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John Mangini like and collector like, give everybody who can

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and granted it's going to be expensive and out of

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a lot of collectors' budgets anyway, even for a pack.

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Or you could do what like vintage what they call

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vintage breaks now did at the National few years ago

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with the fifty five Bowman pack, sell slats in each pack,

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and there was a guy who got a mantle out

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of one of the fifty five Bowman packs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know that, you know it's good. And

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you do it at a National and you get the

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cards sent right over to PSA or SGC or Beckett

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or CGC. You know, you get it to one of

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the major raiders and say there it is. You saw

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I was just opened. Granted, whatever it costs done and

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the persons were probably very happy. I mean, so there

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are certain things you can do to make this fun,

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but that's only if I have the X million I need.

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Speaker 2: Five right, yeah, right, exactly, Yes, the same question to you, Orlando,

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would you.

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Speaker 3: I'd have to agree with with Rich on that, you know,

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because you know what there are those boxes are available

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out there. You know, you can buy a box of

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those out there. So once this case now has been opened,

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it's just some wax boxes in a cardboard box, you know,

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so the cardboard box a million. I would do what

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rich says, I just go ahead and sell either buy

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the box or by packs, but personally I would not

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open them. Yeah, the chances to get the gretz Kis

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are really and to get one on a high grade,

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you know, those cars are all off centered and stuff.

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For the most part, you're not going to get a

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probably a nine or ten out of them. You may

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get one right closely, there's I think twenty five gret

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Skis or twenty six twenty somebody estimated a twenty five

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Gretzky twenty six gretz Kis in that case, you know,

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and out of that, you know you may only get

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two or three that could possibly be a nined, you know.

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So it's a big risk. But I but I do

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like the idea of just taking a chance and opening

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a pack and hopefully getting it out of it, because

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you know, there's gonna be one at least in that box.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, like like you guys were saying, it's

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the house always wins here, Like, if you're the one

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selling the thing, you're probably gonna do better than if

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you open all the boxes and try and get all

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the cards graded, especially with this product, because like the

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Opeach is notorious for having the like the rigid edges,

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because of the way that it was cut with a wire,

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and because it was made in Canada versus made in

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the United States. I mean, I think that the story

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behind the difference in the tops versus Opeach is very

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interesting to me. And then somebody said about twenty six

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gretz skis, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I agree with Mookie. It's not worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah No, I mean, and then like you said, the

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house always wins. So it's like if you're the ones,

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if you're the ones selling, it's probably you're probably gonna

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have a better chance of making at least some of

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your money back versus opening everything up and getting everything grated.

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Because I mean, off the top of my head, I

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don't really I mean, I only know about Gretzky in

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this case, but so I don't even know who the

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other players really would be in this product that are,

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But again that's just me not exactly knowing hockey as

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much as I know maybe other sports. But I mean,

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the Gretzky is obviously what you're shooting for there, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's not a couple of fun cards in the set,

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they're not super expensive, but you also have the last

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cards of both Bobby Hull and as a player, both

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Bobby Hull and Gordy App.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, there are.

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Speaker 4: Some cool cards, but Gretzky is so far above everybody else.

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I mean, he always was as a player, right, But

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you know, in this set, there's I mean there's no

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Mark Messier, there's no Yai Curry, there, there's no there's

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nobody else who's really even a you know, a Hall

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of Fame or close sect. And I think Raymond bark

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is the next year two. So the guys who were

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in that era all come a year or two later,

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which is why he's so far above in all levels,

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including the rookies in the set.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because even I just went to card Loader real

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quick and I looked up nineteen seventy nine OPAG and

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like the first one hundred are all basically Gretzky, Like,

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I'm not even seeing anybody else in this set that

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really would you know. It's not like the uh, it's

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not like the eighty six Fleeer set where you have like,

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you know a ton of other players. I mean, I

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guess you do, because I mean when you said the

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name's rich, I did know those names, So, like, you know,

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maybe you do have a chance. But it's like if

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you're looking at a you know, PSA nine or a

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PSA ten, which the PSA ten, I believe that there's

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only three. No, there's only two PSA ten, So I

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don't know the chances like this would probably be the

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only shot that you could get another PSA ten because

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of how rare the boxes and the cases are, So

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you know, either way, I think it's gonna be it's

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gonna be a tough, a tough flip if you're trying

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to open anything versus just buying anything. So we're actually

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gonna move on here to some big announcements that came

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out of the National coming up in July, which I mean,

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I guess it's November, so we still have some time there,

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but we're gonna switch over we've got. There's some expansion

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for the National, which I think is really cool. I mean,

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we saw in twenty twenty, the last time it was

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in Chicago, they opened up the whole floor basically, so

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they opened up the whole they opened up a whole

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nother section, which that whole other section was kind of

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like the Breakers Pavilion, which I would still expect is

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probably going to be pretty popular here. So I mean, Orlando,

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I'll kick it to you first. What were your thoughts

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when he saw the expansion here for the National?

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Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think we need as many

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dealers as we can in there now. When I first

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looked at it, I thought it was seventy five dealers,

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but it's seventy five tables, So maybe Rich can talk

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a little bit more about that. But it's always great

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to have more dealers. We'll just have to see, you know,

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who are the other dealers that came in in the

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last moment there. But I think all of those spots,

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of course, are all taken by now.

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Speaker 4: Well. My questions are more how much do they cost?

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They're very specific in calling these tables. How much do

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these costs compared to a booth? How are they located.

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I know the main room is well secured. Are these

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going to be well secured or do you have to

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kind of really protect your stuff and take your stuff

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home at night. You know, we've seen at shows some

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of the robberies, and I'd be very concerned about how

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the security works. You know, I'd also be concerned about

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the price point. I'm also concerned about how am I

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going and get enough people to see me? Am I

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going to be treated when I'm going to use this

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in parentheses? Is it going to be like a second

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class situation where you're sort of like a second thought

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or is it going to be that people have to

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see you almost as if you're going to the main room.

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You know, there's a lot of questions. I'm glad we're

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doing more tables, don't get me wrong, but how how

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is this going to be implemented is a key part

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of it, and that's not quite explained, and I think

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that's something that should be explained in a follow up post.

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It's a great start, but if you know, I'm speaking

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now as a vendor, I know what it's like. I

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used to run a show where I have what we're

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gonna call it a side room and I had X

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tables in the main room, and then you could see

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the other people, but you kind of had to pay

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attention to know they were there. So if I had

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a player signing, or if JSA was at the show,

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I make sure they went into the separate room. And

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the reason they went into the room where you could

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see it, but it wasn't as as considered the main

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room was people would come to see those people, so

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I could make I could put them in there. Is

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it that type of a situation. Again, these are questions

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I have. This is not saying it's bad. I just

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want to make sure these questions get answered. If I

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were to have a table, those are questions I would ask.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good point, Rich, You're usually uh, they'll go ahead

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and put the dealer map on the website, and they

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may I don't know, I've looked it up, but they

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may even show where those additional tables were added, you know,

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But like Rich, you know, I hope they didn't stick

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them somewhere a little corner, somewhere lost where they don't

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get seen anymore, you know, Hopefully they put them somewhere

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in the main area.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think, like last year at the National,

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they they had issues where people were like they are

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in they have the sign up where they were like

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no dealing in the lunch area, and then they like

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somebody took a video and they panned and everybody was

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just doing deals, and it's just like, I think adding

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more tables is very smart.

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Speaker 1: I think adding more space for the National.

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Speaker 2: Is always I think, in my opinion, especially in Chicago,

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like Chicago, I think is in my opinion, I would

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hope that they would keep it in Chicago because I

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think Chicago is the easiest for everybody to get to.

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I think it's the best location. I'm just I'm a fan,

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you know. I also like Chicago a lot, so I'm

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a fan there. I think Matt city Brew had an

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interesting conversation, an interesting question here. Just have two Nationals,

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one for vintage and collectibles and then one for modern

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and shooting a basketball throwing, which I'm assuming that's probably

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referencing the Fanatics Fest. So yeah, I mean I think

476
00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:51,599
that would be interesting. I mean I know that Rich

477
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,240
you probably have a little bit more knowledge here about

478
00:23:55,799 --> 00:24:01,119
about show like setting up for shows and stuff along

479
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,279
those lines. So like from your perspective, like do you

480
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,200
like what Fanatics Fest did where it really was more

481
00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:13,279
focused on almost a the atmosphere and the vibes, and

482
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:16,960
then the National was really just for selling cards, I guess.

483
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,599
But what did you kind of think of that specific?

484
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,720
Like it did feel like there was a specific split

485
00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:24,319
down the middle of what was going to happen at

486
00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:24,720
each show.

487
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,519
Speaker 1: What did you think of that?

488
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 4: Well, I was obviously not a Fanatics Fest, so have

489
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,839
I can only know from what I saw from reading

490
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,200
legitimate posts on the subject. And almost all dealers, with

491
00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:38,759
the exception of a small group against the back wall,

492
00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:40,559
which will be fixed for the next time they have

493
00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:44,279
a fanatics Fest. You know it is you are learning

494
00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:47,559
on the fly. Almost every dealer did well to very well,

495
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,039
despite how much it costs for the tables. Despite all that,

496
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,920
they still did well. There were so many people there,

497
00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:57,960
so it's a different type of show. You're not going

498
00:24:58,039 --> 00:25:00,240
to go dime box hunting.

499
00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 5: At Fanatics Fest, right, right, right?

500
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 4: I would love to, But I can go dime box

501
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,920
hunting or quarterbox hunting or dollar box hunting. We call

502
00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:11,359
value box hunting at the Dallas Cards Show to my heart's.

503
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:15,319
Speaker 5: Content, And that's okay, right right, And.

504
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be able to do that fanatics pest.

505
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:19,640
But fanatics best is in New York City. New York

506
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,480
City is a very untapped market, believe it or not

507
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,759
for people attending shows for the simple reason if you

508
00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,880
live in the city, it's kind of hard sometimes to

509
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,960
get to even white planes. You can take the train

510
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,400
of white planes. You have to know to do that,

511
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,559
but you may not take the train of white planes,

512
00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:38,599
but you may take the subway to the Datt Center.

513
00:25:39,079 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: Right.

514
00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 4: So you've got a lot of people. You've got a

515
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,000
lot of people who collect in the city that be

516
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,359
thrilled to have shows in the city. Way back in

517
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,519
the day in the seventies, we had great shows in

518
00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:52,079
New York cities in the seventies. That was where it

519
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,279
actually began. You know, for a lot of us in

520
00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:57,200
the East Coast, we would actually have to trek into

521
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,039
the city to go to shows. And then my friends started,

522
00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:03,359
my friends Tom Reid who's no longer with us, and

523
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,279
Bill Jakob, which is a great follow on Facebook. They

524
00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:08,960
started a show at Montclair State College in New Jersey

525
00:26:09,759 --> 00:26:11,759
that was a monster show and I'd saved my money

526
00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:14,200
for that each year. That was a great show twice

527
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,680
a year, and I set up at that show and

528
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:21,599
we went from there. But New York City was always

529
00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:23,279
a good place for a show back in the day.

530
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,359
It's a good place now. You know, shows in the

531
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,720
city have tricks, but New York City just has so

532
00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:30,279
much of a populace.

533
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: Even right right, totally yeah, and I mean I guess

534
00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:36,759
you could if you're going to a Fanatics faster or

535
00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:38,599
a show that's in the city, you could. It would

536
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:40,920
be expensive to stay in the city, but you could

537
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,839
stay in the city if you want. But with the Subway,

538
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,119
the New York the New York Transit, it's like it's

539
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,079
fairly easy to get in there. Like if you want

540
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,799
to stay somewhere in like New Jersey, or you want

541
00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:52,839
to stay like not in the city where I mean,

542
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,079
I guess Chicago, you are pretty much staying at the

543
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:56,680
venue like that.

544
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's Chicago.

545
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 4: You can take the train and it's about a quarter

546
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:07,039
mile walk to those Stevens Convention Center, so you're actual

547
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:09,400
and a lot of dealers I know, or back in

548
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,000
the day, we parked in the MTA lot the Chicago

549
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,920
because it was cheaper than parking and you could do yeah,

550
00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:22,000
so you can take the train to the National and

551
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,279
rosemant as well. You can also fly in. You're absolutely right,

552
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:29,319
and I should let Orlando speak, so, but I agree

553
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,960
with you, and that's one reason the next three Nationals

554
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,200
will all be in Chicago.

555
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I'm I mean, I'm a fan of that,

556
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,000
and so you know, Orlando, I'll ask you this question.

557
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:39,359
I saw in the chat a couple of people were

558
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,559
talking about it. Do you think that there should be

559
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,039
more of a distinction between vintage and modern when it

560
00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:48,240
comes to shows or do you think having them together

561
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,240
is the ideal way to do it or you think

562
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,119
they should s put it up?

563
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,279
Speaker 3: Well, No, I like it together. I mean I want

564
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:58,640
to go to a show where you can mingle with

565
00:27:58,799 --> 00:28:01,319
all types of collectors, you know. I mean there's modern

566
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,000
and there's people that collect modern ad vintage. So I

567
00:28:04,039 --> 00:28:06,839
do like to see it, you know, all together. I mean,

568
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,720
it'd be nice if they could kind of divide it

569
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:11,599
up and have like a vintage side, you know. Now.

570
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,440
I like what they did in Cleveland. It was kind

571
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,079
of that way. You had the vintage part of it,

572
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,839
a little bit of modern, but and then you had

573
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:20,839
all the breakers and all the other stuff on the

574
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,119
other side. So I kind of liked the way that

575
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,119
was set up. And as far as Chicago, I wish

576
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,519
that it would stay in Chicago. I think it's the

577
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:31,319
best place for everybody. It's so convenient. All the hotels

578
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,400
are there, you know, you can go everywhere. They have

579
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,359
trade nights everywhere and all the different hotels, everything within

580
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,000
walking distance. And for somebody that comes in from out

581
00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:42,039
of town, I think that's the easiest way. You know,

582
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:43,839
I don't have to uber, I don't have to look

583
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,759
for rides. So I wish that it would stay in Chicago.

584
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:48,200
I'm glad it's going to be there for the next

585
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,640
three years. As far as the fan fest, you know,

586
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,519
it's a different show than the National It's more of

587
00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:56,680
a comic con type thing, you know, it's more for

588
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:02,279
sports fans with cards, right right, you know. I was

589
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:05,960
I could see the one in Orlando the unfortunately they

590
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:07,880
canceled it. I was ready to go there. I had

591
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,079
my plans set up to see They said that was

592
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:11,920
going to be a little more of a card show,

593
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:15,279
but it was still going to have that sports end

594
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:18,200
of it, so I wanted to see that. Unfortunately, you

595
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:23,200
know that didn't come about. Now I heard and I

596
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,720
don't know, but I've heard rumors that Fanatics is trying

597
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:30,599
to buy out some of the bigger card shows and

598
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,440
maybe that's a way for them to kind of get

599
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,319
in there on an established show, yea, because my understanding was,

600
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,599
you know, I know they blamed it on the hurricane,

601
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,799
but I don't really think they had sold out everything.

602
00:29:43,359 --> 00:29:47,680
And that's just you know, rumors that they weren't completely

603
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,519
prepared for the show, and you know, maybe they're looking

604
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:57,680
to buy buy out other shows. I mean, you know,

605
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:00,480
I don't know the Dallas Card Show or some like that.

606
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,920
You know, yeah, buy that out. I think that'd be

607
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,240
a huge win for Fanatics and they could make that

608
00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:07,400
even bigger than it is now.

609
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: And you know I think that, Yeah, that's what I

610
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,279
was gonna say. I was gonna ask Rich. Actually, this

611
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:15,839
is this question, like do you think it's good for

612
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,839
the industry to have a bunch of different shows ran

613
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,359
by a bunch of different like companies I guess, or

614
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,799
you know, entities or like for you, I mean, you're

615
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,440
right next to the Dallas Card Show, so I'm you're

616
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,240
you're going there and you're seeing how that show is

617
00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:30,720
run versus like the National being a totally different show,

618
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:33,799
versus Fanatics vest being a totally different show, versus you know,

619
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:36,079
there's a they did, like the Fenway show, like that's

620
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,079
you know, that was one that I went to, probably

621
00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:40,079
in like April or May of this year. So like,

622
00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:42,680
do you think that it's you think that's the way

623
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,160
that it should be, or do you think it would

624
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,400
make sense to consolidate and have.

625
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,279
Speaker 1: A I don't know, a company like Fanatics.

626
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:50,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I know a lot of people will probably

627
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:53,119
say no, they don't want Fanatics buying something like the

628
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,240
Dallas Card Show, But like, do you think the consolidation

629
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,640
would be a good idea?

630
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,799
Speaker 1: So that way, I don't know what do you think

631
00:30:58,799 --> 00:30:59,039
of that?

632
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:01,799
Speaker 4: I guess maybe I'm gonna and I don't remember the

633
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,119
number of the episode, but doctor Beckett and I talked

634
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:05,880
about that on one.

635
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: Of his podcasts, Oh okay, yes, yes.

636
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:09,759
Speaker 4: And so we've actually talked about that, and I don't

637
00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:12,880
exactly remember exactly what I said. So I apologize to

638
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,720
the people in the chat, but I mean, I will

639
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:17,440
tell you and this is what I this is what

640
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:21,440
prompted it forty years ago because I'm old, not as old,

641
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,200
not as old as anybody else, but I'm old. You know,

642
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,799
I'm older than everybody else here, even older than Orlando

643
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,359
that forty years ago Crousey ran into trouble when they

644
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,680
wanted to They actually put a bid in for I

645
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,680
think the eighty five National Milwaukee, and we were all

646
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:47,000
screaming at the time about conflict of interest. Uh yeah, uh.

647
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,240
Nowadays you wouldn't even bad and eye I know my

648
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:52,400
friends Franken, Vivian Barney. It wasn't a great bid, but

649
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,640
they put in a bid for the ninety one National

650
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,400
in San Diego. I would have loved to have gone

651
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,440
to San Diego, just to go to San Diego. Yes,

652
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:03,400
I've actually been. I got there finally on a show trick.

653
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,480
But I mean, because I know it's so beautiful. But

654
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,759
we used to scream about conflict of interest. Now we

655
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,039
talk about it a synergy. Is it good, is it bad?

656
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,839
I don't know, but it's there and we don't look

657
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,880
at it quite the same way as we did forty

658
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,720
years ago. And that I know, I'm comfortable in.

659
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: Saying yeah, right.

660
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:32,119
Speaker 2: And so Mike had an interesting comment that he wouldn't

661
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,039
go to anything fanatics related, but he's.

662
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: In the minority.

663
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like he might not be. I mean,

664
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:44,680
I don't know. I mean, I think the criticism has

665
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:49,799
been very prominent, I think for fanatics really leading up

666
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:52,720
to in this first couple of years. I mean, I

667
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,599
guess it'll be interesting to see what happens when they

668
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,000
switch over the licenses, to see if that makes any difference,

669
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:01,759
like with their hobby strategy.

670
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:05,319
Speaker 1: I guess, but I think, you know, I don't know.

671
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:10,119
Speaker 2: I think keeping the shows, on one hand, I could

672
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:11,880
I see both ways. On one hand, I would like

673
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,039
to keep the show separate, so that way it's just keeps,

674
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:17,559
you know, a different feel and a different look to

675
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:20,880
each of the card shows. But I think also maybe

676
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,000
there's a little bit of consolidation might be decent for

677
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:27,519
you know, to increase maybe budget on some of the shows.

678
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:29,200
But at the same time, it's like, I don't know,

679
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,200
you know, who really knows one way or the other

680
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:37,559
if consolidation would really work, I guess. And let's see

681
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:41,759
if we've gotten any comments here. We got foul Ball

682
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:45,920
said I would go to the National when they go

683
00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:48,640
nationally and come to the West, the West coast. Yeah,

684
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,079
so like a West Coast Show. You know, I think

685
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,160
what that would be the the Burbank Show.

686
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,279
Speaker 1: Would that be considered the West Coast show? Probably?

687
00:33:59,160 --> 00:33:59,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

688
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean that's pretty impressive that, like Burbank

689
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,799
Sports Cards is able to put together a show of

690
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:06,799
that magnitude that a lot of people travel out to.

691
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,920
And then we got uh, is the Dallas Card Show

692
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,559
the right show for fanatics to buy?

693
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's maybe, I don't know rich.

694
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, the biggest show in the Southwest.

695
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 4: Yes, it's the biggest show for thousands of miles, and

696
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:28,920
you know, I don't know what you would call the radius,

697
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,159
but it's the biggest show for thousands of miles. So yeah,

698
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,559
it would be a very good show. And they've been

699
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:39,519
to the Dallas Card Show. Fanatics has been to the

700
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:42,719
Dallas Card Show, so they are well aware of all

701
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,320
the pros and cons thereof of.

702
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: The show, right exactly.

703
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: Let's see, So we're gonna move on here.

704
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,599
Speaker 3: As are good, you know what I mean? You get

705
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:58,079
different types of people into the hobby, and that's the key,

706
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:01,000
whether it's the new collector or the better collector. He

707
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:03,639
used to have a good show. A lot of attendance

708
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:05,400
and you know, a lot of fun at the show.

709
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:07,920
So I do like what Fanatics is doing, you know,

710
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,559
even though of course I'm more of a vintage guy, right.

711
00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 4: You know, I can speak because my synagogue show that

712
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,880
I run for my synagogue's brotherhood is now a twenty

713
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,679
table show. It used to be a forty five table

714
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,400
show with more of what today would be a Pelican

715
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,440
case show. But now I've because the facility is smaller

716
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,440
that we use. Now I've reduced it to a twenty

717
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,559
It's a twenty table show. And I have a bunch

718
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:36,559
of people who do the show that are that I'm

719
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:39,400
going to use the word collector dealers. They do one

720
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:42,639
or two shows a year, usually mine, and a lot

721
00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:45,639
of times they'll sell stuff to them to each other

722
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,400
and it's like trading within each other and it's a

723
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,000
fun show. And I try to have one or two

724
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:56,239
more I don't want to use serious dealers, but I

725
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,920
like having one or two more serious dealers and the

726
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,039
rest I actually prefer that they're collector based dealers. And

727
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,960
it pays off that everybody has a good time. It

728
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:11,400
is not the show for a lot of people. And

729
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,519
I tell you, if you're a Pelican case guy and

730
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:16,719
you want graded cards, don't come and they then I

731
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,280
actually tell people don't come if you're looking for Patrick Mahomes,

732
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,960
RPAS and ps A nine or yes, nice, I tell

733
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,599
people don't come for that. You might mind one, but

734
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:30,599
that's not why you want to come. I want to

735
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:34,320
come and have a good time and have a relaxed atmosphere.

736
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:36,960
Then come to my show and you'll enjoy it. The

737
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:40,239
Dallas Card Show the main room and even some of

738
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,920
the Starlight Room is like that. But there's also a

739
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,320
lot of people in the Starlight Room, and that I

740
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,760
call it the Focation Room, the Friends of Kyle's Room,

741
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,920
where a lot of us who have been in the

742
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,400
Starlight Room were the people who used to do Kyle's

743
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,840
Show at the Hilton Garden in before it kind of expanded.

744
00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:02,719
So it's got kind of the old school flare in

745
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,960
the Starlight Room.

746
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

747
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:08,519
Speaker 4: And the Dalla's Cards Show has something for almost everybody.

748
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

749
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: They also have an arrangement with GTSM, and GTSM has

750
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:18,960
brought in really star power in the autographs. They had

751
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,360
Dennis Rodman and Bo Jackson at the show last week.

752
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:24,679
Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, Yeah, and so I.

753
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: Mean the crowds for them were out were amazing, drawing people.

754
00:37:30,039 --> 00:37:33,800
They're drawing more people. Some people just come for the autographs,

755
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,039
some come from the new cards, some come for the

756
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,719
old cards, and some like me, come for the value boxes.

757
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:40,559
Speaker 1: Right right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

758
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: I mean I think ultimately, I hope that they can

759
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:48,039
just create shows that, like you said, that has a

760
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,639
has something for everybody. I think ultimately that's what I

761
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,679
consider a good show. Like, I mean, for me, I'm

762
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,639
not necessarily if I'm going to the National, I'm not

763
00:37:57,679 --> 00:38:00,599
necessarily buying a ton. So like maybe my idea of

764
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:02,760
what a good show is isn't necessarily the same as

765
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,000
you Rich or you Orlando in it.

766
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:05,519
Speaker 1: I think it's just it's the same thing.

767
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: It's maybe just like a microcosm for sports cards in general,

768
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,559
Like there's so many different ways to do cards. There's

769
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,760
so's the same way that there's so many different ways

770
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,760
to do shows. And it's like, you know, somebody might

771
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,320
like that there's not as much dealing, wheeling and dealing

772
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:23,679
at the Fanatics show, But then some people might like

773
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,440
go to your the show that you were just talking about, Rich,

774
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,199
and they might like, like to find the you know,

775
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,840
the the the non Patrick Mahomes r pas, like the

776
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,440
kind of the maybe not harder to find necessarily, but

777
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:37,559
like cards that are not like not everybody doesn't have them,

778
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:39,280
you know, like there for example, like you might not

779
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,360
be able to find a Wayne Gretzky PSA ten, but

780
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,480
maybe you'll be able to find like the Bobby Hall

781
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:45,599
PSA ten or somebody else from that set. Like it's

782
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:47,840
there's so many different ways to do it. I think

783
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,760
ultimately that's I hope that they continue to do that.

784
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,000
I hope that I hope that it doesn't on like

785
00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:55,519
I said, and I see it on both sides. I

786
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:59,920
hope on one hand it doesn't become too much too

787
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:03,119
much the same stuff, But at the same time, it's

788
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:04,599
like who knows, who knows what would be better?

789
00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: On who what wouldn't be better?

790
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: Well, the big advantage that fanatics has is the the athletes.

791
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,719
I mean, they have virtually almost all the athletes on contract,

792
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:16,480
you know, and when you can bring Brady in or

793
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:19,800
Gronkin and stuff like that, these shows, I mean that

794
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:26,119
really really gets you know, not just the regular card guys,

795
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:29,639
but it brings just sports fans in general. And you know,

796
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:31,519
that's what Fanatics brings to the table. I think it's

797
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:34,679
great to get that kind of excitement, you know, but

798
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,079
you know, they also need to cater to US collectors,

799
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,320
you know, and like Rick says, bring those bargain boxes,

800
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,800
you know, because Fanatics shows, they're not gonna have bargain boxes.

801
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:48,199
So I think they need to they need to adapt

802
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:51,360
a little bit. But us older collectors also need to

803
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,000
kind of adapt and realize that that is going to

804
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:57,639
be the future. Now. These guys are the monopoly they own.

805
00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:00,559
They're gonna own it all, and you know, we just

806
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:02,920
need to make sure that US collectors are included in

807
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,320
those shows the same way as the regular young sports

808
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,239
guys are bringing in.

809
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely.

810
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,079
Speaker 4: We all guys still have money.

811
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,599
Speaker 3: Yeah we do, that's for sure.

812
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,559
Speaker 4: And Orlando just did a great show about I believe

813
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:17,840
what was sixty eight Tops Games cards? You just did?

814
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,079
Speaker 3: Yes, I did, that's right.

815
00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:23,159
Speaker 4: I love you know. I collected that set because they

816
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:25,239
were in the third series of sixty eight, the first

817
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,280
series I ever collected as a kid, So I'm a

818
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,639
lot of familiarity with that, but I didn't know for

819
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,159
years you could order those directly from tops eventually. You know.

820
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could order those box sets, but they're very

821
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,239
I don't think i've seen the actual box set with

822
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,280
the box neither of.

823
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,199
Speaker 4: Which is what's so amazing, but you could order it,

824
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:46,400
so I'd love to see the box.

825
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's funny. But you know, those are

826
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,519
the type of cards that you know, I talked about

827
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:55,119
that the young collectors, if they want to get into vintage,

828
00:40:55,599 --> 00:41:00,320
you could buy that mantle for fifty bucks and great

829
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,239
way to get into vintage. And that's why I what

830
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,679
I'm trying to do is get some of these younger

831
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,519
collectors or so some of them say, oh it's too expensive,

832
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:12,599
I can't buy a Willie Mays or a rovertical mandink. Yeah,

833
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:14,960
you can get that Willie Mays card for fifteen to

834
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,440
twenty bucks, you know. So that was one of the

835
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,280
things I wanted to open the eyes for people, and

836
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,000
that's kind of what I try to do in my channel,

837
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:24,440
just kind of share with everybody that, hey, you know,

838
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:27,559
vintage is for everybody, not just you've got to have

839
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,679
money to get a Ty Cobb card or something.

840
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, Well.

841
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,559
Speaker 4: One of the things with people like Ty Cobb is

842
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:37,360
Eventually the numbers went out, and the guys with the

843
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,320
numbers are what people look at. But for people like

844
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,000
you and me who grew up with these people. Yeah,

845
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:45,880
when our friend Bo yesterday does his name the player

846
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,599
and he has the sixty eight tops game Rick Monday card, Yeah,

847
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:51,800
that's a card you can find in a quarterbox for

848
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,599
dollar boxing exactly. Monday's an American hero for what he

849
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:58,840
did with the flag. You get a really inexpensive card

850
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,960
from the six these of a guy that you know

851
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:05,239
every year you're gonna see the highlight of him grabbing

852
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,800
the live from the people trying to burn it out.

853
00:42:08,679 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 5: You know, it's a pet that's less than the dollar

854
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,000
right exactly.

855
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:16,679
Speaker 2: And you know too, like if you're going to a

856
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,880
show like you were explaining Richer and any of the

857
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,239
shows that aren't like a Fanatics Best show, you're gonna

858
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,519
be able to find cards like that probably where at

859
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:28,079
Fanatics Fest it's like more of the mainstream stuff. So

860
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,159
I think ultimately, ultimately I hope that every show can

861
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,320
kind of cater to whoever is trying to go. I

862
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,800
think ultimately that's where that's kind of my stance on

863
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,840
the show, is how I would want how I would

864
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,639
want them to rerun, I guess is one way to

865
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:41,960
put it.

866
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,039
Speaker 3: Now, they rescheduled the show in Orlando supposedly for next

867
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:48,960
year early next year, February or something. You're saying. They

868
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,519
haven't given a specific date. But we'll see what happens

869
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:54,280
with that, because really the only one they've done, I

870
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,199
guess is the New York one. So I'm still waiting

871
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,840
to see what, you know, what, what's the next one

872
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,719
going to be like? Is it going to be as big?

873
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,159
Is it going to be as popular? So we'll see

874
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:06,519
what happens when that comes around.

875
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think if Fanatics does it right, and

876
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,639
this is this is a personal opinion. There are certain

877
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,440
shows that should be fanatics Fests and certain shows that

878
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,880
should be card show fests, so to speak. Not every show,

879
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:27,239
not every place should be Fanatics Fest. Orlando could be

880
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,719
a Fanatics Fest because come the you know, the cooler weather.

881
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,280
People want to go to Florida anyway, there's for many

882
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,039
years the Big Coin Show is the fun Show that

883
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,320
Florida United or whatever they call it, but they call.

884
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: It the Fun Showstics or whatever.

885
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's huge, and people want to go to People

886
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:53,519
want to go to Orlando in January. Yes, an Orlando

887
00:43:53,679 --> 00:43:56,079
fan fest in January. I don't want to say I

888
00:43:56,079 --> 00:44:00,679
guarantee you because guarantee, but I'll wager, well, that may

889
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,239
not be the right, but I'll say that there's a

890
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,639
really good chance that that show would be a monster. Yeah.

891
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:08,559
Speaker 3: I mean, the weather's going to be in the sixties

892
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:11,559
and that around there. I mean, and for the family

893
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:14,239
to you know, the family can go to Disney and

894
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:18,119
then you know, the kids can the adults or whatever,

895
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:19,840
the father can go there. So there's a lot of things.

896
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 4: It's not just Disney. Don't you have also another everything? Yeah,

897
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:28,159
you have all these all these things in Orlando. I

898
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:31,519
mean it's not just Disney. Disney's the Biggie, but you've

899
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:33,840
got Paramount or whatever at least.

900
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have a whole Disney village that you can

901
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,840
go for free, and it's got the shops and the

902
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,039
restaurants and things. It's just you can spend the whole

903
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:46,280
day there and it's it's like Disney, but it's free.

904
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,440
You just don't have the rides, right, yes, and the weather.

905
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 4: It would make fanatics best work in Orlando. If you

906
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,360
can get the building for the right time of the

907
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,559
year when people want to go where it's warmer than

908
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,239
it is in New York in February. You don't really

909
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,880
want to go to New York in February.

910
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I used to.

911
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: Live in New York. Actually I lived in a suburb,

912
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,559
but we call it New York was twelve hours George

913
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:17,880
Washington Bridge. I used to live up there. You don't

914
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,800
want to travel up there in February. You don't even

915
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,840
know if you're going to run into a snowstorm.

916
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, you'll get stuck and you won't be

917
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,159
able to get out of there. Where Orlando, you probably

918
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,199
hopefully you get out of there. I mean, worst case

919
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,760
scenario in Orlando is you'll run it as a storm,

920
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:33,280
but not a.

921
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 3: There's no storms in that Yeah, there's no storms there

922
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,360
in that time, and the weather is beautiful usually.

923
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: Let's see if there's any comments here to people just

924
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,039
talking about all the stuff in Florida, which makes sense.

925
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:50,360
I mean, yeah, there's there is tons of stuff, so

926
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,840
really they really, uh, you know, there is a ton

927
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,239
of stuff to do in that area. Where Chicago there's

928
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,599
kind of the there's top golf, I know, like a

929
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,920
lot of people do like their corporate top golf trips

930
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,159
during the national But yeah, Orlando great.

931
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: You know, I love Orlando down.

932
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,559
Speaker 2: There because it's tons of stuff to do other than well,

933
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:13,719
not other than, but including the card show if that's

934
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,400
down there also.

935
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:18,519
Speaker 3: So I wanted to I asked Rich something so he's

936
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:21,400
a little more familiar with the situation with with what's

937
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,679
happening with Beckett. And now that PSA is opening up

938
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,679
a on office in Texas, what are your opinions on that, Rich,

939
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,760
are they actually going after Beckett?

940
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 4: I don't know how big it's going to be, what

941
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,840
they're going to do with the office. I will say.

942
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,599
The only thing I will say is if they have

943
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,519
enough manpower at PSA, they should set up at every

944
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:49,760
Dallas card show. They're really not that far away, and

945
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,280
that would be another way to hurt Beckett, because right

946
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,760
now Beckett has a major home field advantage at the

947
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,639
Dallas card Show. Their office is literally twenty minutes away

948
00:47:01,639 --> 00:47:03,599
from the show. And I know this because I live

949
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:06,559
ten minutes away and their office is five to ten

950
00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:09,280
minutes from my house. So on a bad traffic day,

951
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,599
it's twenty minutes to the Becket office from the Dallas

952
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:16,880
Card Show PSA. Then if they have enough bodies and

953
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,880
they have enough people working in the area, they should

954
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,360
set up at every Dallas card show because then you

955
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,039
don't have to pay a lot of people to fly in.

956
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:29,639
They'll learn how to do the shows, they'll learn how

957
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:32,880
to talk to people. It all depends what they're hired

958
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,199
for there too, But on a corporate level, with a

959
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,719
home field advantage, I would sure as Hex set up

960
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,079
at every Dallas card show.

961
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:43,199
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that definitely is a no brainer. But it's

962
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:46,679
I mean they're very strategic. I mean having an office

963
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:49,360
in the East Coast, on the West Coast, and now

964
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,119
in Dallas, and well they own SPC, who is in Florida.

965
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 4: Well Dallas also CSG Fanatics. We were talking about finance

966
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,440
and the Dallas car earlier a couple This has nothing

967
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,119
to do with buying out the Dallas card show. Fanatics

968
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:09,519
had one of their quarterly meetings in Dallas because it

969
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:13,599
is doubt The DFW Airport is a hub airport for

970
00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:16,800
American airlines, so you can get there from just about

971
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:21,000
anywhere in the country, just like Chicago with O'Hare. So

972
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:26,440
I remember they asked Kyle Robertson the promoter, and Kyle

973
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:30,840
gave everybody all access passes and he handed out like

974
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,199
seventy passes to people at Fanatics to attend the show

975
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,440
because most of them are going to be collectors spending

976
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,840
good money. So it was worth his vendors for him

977
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,599
to lose a little But I'm gonna use the word

978
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:43,960
lose a little bit of money to make all his

979
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:48,679
vendors happy. I'll make that trade any day. You know.

980
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,760
If I can make my vendors happy, they want to

981
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,480
come back. So if it costs me x thousand to

982
00:48:54,639 --> 00:49:01,199
do all access passes, but it gets me x thousand us,

983
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,639
that keeps my vendors happy and coming back. That's a

984
00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:05,840
good short term tree.

985
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,559
Speaker 3: You got seventy plus people with money coming.

986
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: In, yes, right, and and you have people saving a

987
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,280
little bit of money because they got the passes too,

988
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,639
so that definitely add that to add that to your

989
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:20,079
budget to buy cards.

990
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 4: So it's a good deal all around. And so Fanatics

991
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,519
hasn't has their I mean PSA has their office in

992
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:32,960
the New York area, big big collecting area. They had

993
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,760
the California office and now a Dallas office makes sense

994
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,679
because you're in a Midwest we're the south southern tip

995
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,119
of the Midwest, but you're in the Midwest area, it

996
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,280
makes sense to have an office where people can coalesce

997
00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:51,320
and it's easy enough to get to. So it's a

998
00:49:51,559 --> 00:49:55,719
it's a good forget everything else. It's a good marketing move.

999
00:49:56,039 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 3: And it's a great marketed period that the Texas area

1000
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,519
anywhere around there because it's very easy to drive from

1001
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:06,360
Texas from you know, Missouri, in any any place basically,

1002
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:09,079
but I don't know.

1003
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:12,679
Speaker 4: How easy to drive in Texas under construction since eighteen

1004
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:13,440
sixty six.

1005
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're kind of I guess that. I mean,

1006
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:19,559
that was great.

1007
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: I'm glad that we were able to get so much

1008
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:24,719
conversation out of the sport of that of the the

1009
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,920
National News because I think this one will probably pretty quick.

1010
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,639
We'll just we'll quickly, we'll quickly touch on this last

1011
00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:33,239
topic and then we'll kind of wrap things up. So

1012
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:37,079
let's see Bronnie James and I know some people are

1013
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:38,840
probably gonna roll the rides in the chat here. I

1014
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,519
can can I can already see it coming. Uh, Bronnie

1015
00:50:41,559 --> 00:50:44,280
James is going back to the G League. Not surprising

1016
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:49,199
really at all. I mean he shouldn't have really been

1017
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,800
on the team. He shouldn't have been on the starting

1018
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,079
roster anyways, I guess, but you know, we still had

1019
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:58,119
a couple different cards of his and his his father,

1020
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,559
And do you think I I don't know, I mean,

1021
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:03,800
rich this is all hypothetical and speculative, Like do you

1022
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:09,320
think that Lebron had anything to do with the cards

1023
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,679
that they produced, like at the beginning of the year,

1024
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:14,400
like with with him and Browny, Like, do you think

1025
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,519
they were like, we'll get a card and then then

1026
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:18,159
we'll send him down or do you think that's sort

1027
00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:21,199
of you know, that's maybe a little bit too conspiratorial.

1028
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 4: That's way too conspiratory, way too conspira However, he's a

1029
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:30,480
second round draft pick, right if he was really that good,

1030
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:32,960
he would have been a first round draft pick. I

1031
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,880
think they handled it appropriately. They got him on the

1032
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,119
floor with his with his father, They got him some

1033
00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:42,559
shots in the NBA, he scored points. And now if

1034
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:45,480
he's really good, he'll be alternating between the g he'll

1035
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,360
have whatever, if it's a two way contract or whatever.

1036
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,119
A lot of people in the G league, can you know,

1037
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:54,519
switch back and forth. You know, the NBA lasters are

1038
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:57,880
fourteen or fifteen people you are not, you know, and

1039
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,119
a lot of times your your rotation is players. So

1040
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,199
he's not going to be in the main rotation. It's

1041
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,960
not a big deal when it comes to playing. They've

1042
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,079
already taken care of they've played together, he scored points,

1043
00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:13,119
they've already taken care of all that. You don't have

1044
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,360
to do more at this point. Now you can alternate

1045
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,079
and he can learn NBA stuff and be with his dad.

1046
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:21,039
And his dad is still the best player on the

1047
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:24,639
Lakers almost an age, right, So you want to keep dad,

1048
00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:28,280
who is who is in the mount rushmore of NBA players.

1049
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,280
You want to keep that and it's still producing at

1050
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:30,840
a high level.

1051
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 5: You keep that happy, right, So it's okay, It really

1052
00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:38,599
is okay. Yeah, And I thought, as.

1053
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: I pointed out in our chap before, and I don't

1054
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,559
know if Orlando was in the room yet, did you

1055
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:45,039
all see that Scottie Pippen Junior had a triple double

1056
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,800
last night, making it the first father son combo to

1057
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:48,960
ever have triple doubles.

1058
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 3: That's great news.

1059
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely good.

1060
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: And so Orlando, I mean, what about what about you

1061
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,440
do you think this from a sports car perspective. Do

1062
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,559
you think it really matters like that he is getting

1063
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:03,079
sent down? Like, do you think people are still gonna

1064
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:05,639
want to buy his cards? I mean, like I think

1065
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,320
people will do and they will, But the interesting.

1066
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 3: I think people will still buy his cards, especially at

1067
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,880
least with Lebron, just to have that dual card, you know,

1068
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,360
like the King Griffy Senior and Junior type things. I

1069
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,440
think people would like that, just to have that. Really,

1070
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:22,239
for me, I think it was just more of a

1071
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,360
gimmick bringing him in. I don't think he would have

1072
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,559
been drafted by any other team other than the Lakers,

1073
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:31,400
And you know, it was just to make Lebron happy

1074
00:53:31,519 --> 00:53:35,119
and really to create history. And I think it's a

1075
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:36,719
nice thing to do. I think it was a good

1076
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,960
gesture and all that, you know, But I've always had

1077
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,800
concerns with Bronnie. You know, you know, he had a

1078
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,920
heart issue when he's in college, and you know, I

1079
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,840
don't know if he had actually has the skills you know,

1080
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,719
to be a starter, you know, at everyday starter. But

1081
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,360
we'll see what happens, you know. I mean I wish

1082
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,039
him well and all that, but I really think that

1083
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:02,440
it was it wasn't for Lebron on the team, he

1084
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,000
wouldn't have been drafted at all.

1085
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you're probably right about that. I mean,

1086
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,360
they did sell a one of one with Lebron and Bronny,

1087
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,039
so I think that'll be interesting to see what that

1088
00:54:14,159 --> 00:54:17,039
ends up selling for. I mean, we've seen that dual

1089
00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:19,559
auto sometimes don't work out when they have rookies like this,

1090
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:22,000
but I mean, it is Lebron, so it's like one,

1091
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:25,440
on one hand, it's like the best player of our generation,

1092
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:28,480
but then also like you know, I don't know, I mean,

1093
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,800
I don't know if that affects the Lebron I don't

1094
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,079
know if eventually one day people will just say, oh,

1095
00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:36,119
it's just a little like sure, it's a dual card,

1096
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:38,360
but if even if Briny doesn't pan out, it really

1097
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,599
is gonna stay sort of where the price is, Like

1098
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:44,960
it's not gonna drop because it's not like some random player,

1099
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,800
because it's the Sun and it's still a big deal.

1100
00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:49,880
But yeah, I mean, overall, we'll see how this goes

1101
00:54:50,159 --> 00:54:53,360
once Panini starts coming out with their basketball sets, Like, Rich,

1102
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,920
do you think Bronni's probably gonna be in these sets?

1103
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: Right? Like you would have to imagine a member of

1104
00:54:58,039 --> 00:54:58,960
the NBA PA.

1105
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,119
Speaker 4: He he will be, you know, as long as all

1106
00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:06,119
the contracts you're done, because you have the right to

1107
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:07,800
print the cards. You may not be able to get

1108
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,280
the autographs, but they'll have cards, and it will be interesting

1109
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,199
to see where his rookie cards fall and whether they

1110
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,000
do any dual cards with Daddy, and that's okay, that's allowed,

1111
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,679
whether they kind of put Dad on the card as well.

1112
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,039
You know, there are gonna be photos of them together

1113
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:27,159
in Lakers' uniforms.

1114
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 2: Somebody asked if if Brownie still gets to participate in

1115
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,599
Taco Tuesday, I mean, I don't know, you'd hope, So

1116
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:39,280
I guess I don't know. But with I think with

1117
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,000
those teams, at least i'm pretty well Salt Lake City,

1118
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,199
I guess that's or no South Bay, so I guess

1119
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:46,079
they're still in the California area.

1120
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 1: So maybe I don't I guess I hope you'd hope.

1121
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: So, so we are coming up a little bit on

1122
00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:54,079
the looks like we're coming up on the top of

1123
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:54,440
the hour.

1124
00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: Here.

1125
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,679
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back around the horn one more time. Uh,

1126
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,599
you know, give a shout out to whatever you're working

1127
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:03,199
on any stuff you want to talk about, Orlando, I'll

1128
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,000
kick it to you first, like what are your you know,

1129
00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:07,840
what you got coming up, what you got planned? Like

1130
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,320
anything you want to give a shout out to you

1131
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,320
on the show here as we're wrapping things up, I've.

1132
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 3: Got the next next weekend, I would be at the

1133
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:18,960
Palm Beach Card Show up here in West Pump Beach.

1134
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,280
It's about four hundred tables, so kind of a big

1135
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,800
card show for Florida. You we usually don't have too

1136
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,199
many big ones here, so I'll be doing that. And

1137
00:56:28,119 --> 00:56:29,760
you know that I like to follow a lot of

1138
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:33,239
collectors and stuff like that. And one thing I wanted,

1139
00:56:33,519 --> 00:56:36,480
you know, I checked Net fifty four and you know

1140
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,400
Riches on Net fifty four at the time. But I

1141
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,599
was on Net fifty four this morning and I was

1142
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:44,760
reading up on a collector who has completed a nineteen

1143
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:50,079
sixty one Flear basketball set completely autographed. Oh wow, and

1144
00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:53,800
it's the only one that could be completed because there

1145
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,159
are there's one player that there's only one autograph car

1146
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,519
that exists, and like the Chamberlain and Act there's only

1147
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:03,199
two autographs of that and only five of the regular

1148
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,360
Chamberlain autographs and a couple other autographs. Is only like

1149
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,599
one or two that are known, So I think that

1150
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:14,880
is a huge task for this guy that built the

1151
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,840
only nineteen sixty one for year basketball set completely signed,

1152
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,199
and it's the only one that can ever be completed,

1153
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,199
right right. So just I love to see stuff like

1154
00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:25,960
that go on there. Fifty four and you'll see that,

1155
00:57:26,199 --> 00:57:28,840
and then fifty four is great with Leon and all that.

1156
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,599
I love it. I'm always on there just checking out

1157
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:34,480
the news and stuff that's going on and just give

1158
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:35,320
them a little plug.

1159
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice, nice, Yeah, I love that.

1160
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: I mean that's one of the cool partsball collecting is

1161
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,639
like these random things that no one knew you could do.

1162
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:46,440
It's like, now you have a Now you have one

1163
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,480
of the only sets of this specific type of set,

1164
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,679
which I think is very cool.

1165
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:52,599
Speaker 3: The only one that could ever be complete, right.

1166
00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:54,079
Speaker 2: Right, and it's the only one that ever could be

1167
00:57:54,199 --> 00:57:57,440
right exactly exactly. You know, rich, same question to you,

1168
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,440
what you got coming up? Anything you want to plug here?

1169
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:03,159
Speaker 4: Well, there's a couple of things. One I sold out

1170
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:05,280
again at the last dollars cards show, this time without

1171
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,480
that pesky little detail of having a table I bought

1172
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:11,960
a deal, and then one of my friends came over

1173
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:14,039
and I sold everything else I had at home. So

1174
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,159
this time I got to sell out without having to

1175
00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:18,920
pay for a table, which was even better. Yeah, that

1176
00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:23,639
pesky little detail. And so I'm starting all over again.

1177
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:26,719
I'm actually having to run to I'm buying. I have

1178
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,599
to buy certain things I can only get out of

1179
00:58:28,599 --> 00:58:34,119
either a Walmart or a Target. So I'm probably going

1180
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to buy a blaster box or two today and just

1181
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have some fun. And I understand that's not a way

1182
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,920
to make money or anything. That is more like have

1183
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:45,800
some fun. You know, twenty dollars box is fine. And

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also our friends who donate us a lot of stuff

1185
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,239
at Triple Cards in Plano, but they're part of and

1186
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,239
I want to talk about this sometime. I'll call it

1187
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,920
the Triple Card family of stores. He's opening four more

1188
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,840
stores with they call it the Wax Stores. When they open,

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00:59:02,159 --> 00:59:06,360
he Lawrence and his team will have fourteen stores by

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sometime next year.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 4: He has figured out the Rubik's cube of how to franchise.

1193
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,599
That is something nobody else in this hobby has ever done.

1194
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:19,159
I mean, usually if you have stores, you have two

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or three you don't, you know. And our friend Rex,

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00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,719
so I didn't see in the chat. Rex has two

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00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:33,280
stores that's normally about how far you go fourteen is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, you know, and.

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Speaker 4: Some of them are some of them he bought established stores,

1200
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:41,400
like my friend Mike for in Colorado, and you know,

1201
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,440
Mike has stole the manager. Mike still runs the most

1202
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,400
of the day to day operations for the store, but

1203
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,480
he doesn't have to do things like payroll anymore, so

1204
00:59:49,679 --> 00:59:54,320
it still has his stamp on it. But they also

1205
00:59:54,519 --> 00:59:59,960
have each year a Secret Santa Project where you spend

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and if you're an adult, you have to spend two hundred.

1207
01:00:03,159 --> 01:00:05,480
If you're younger than adult or you want to be

1208
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,519
in the you know, there's also a fifty dollars children's

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01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,639
we'll call it kids group, and there's usually a i'm

1210
01:00:12,679 --> 01:00:15,800
gonna call it a trade night attached, and they're doing

1211
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:19,880
it December fourth. You know, I signed up. I signed

1212
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,119
up at the local Plano card the you know, like

1213
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,360
the day after the Dallas card. So I signed up,

1214
01:00:26,159 --> 01:00:30,960
and there you can sign up to like November twenty second,

1215
01:00:31,519 --> 01:00:33,679
and then you have like two weeks after that to

1216
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buy your gifts. Usually unopened, which lets them saw a

1217
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,320
lot of an open product right total, and then the

1218
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party will be December fourteenth, and there's oh and it

1219
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,119
becomes almost like a trade night too, so it's real

1220
01:00:48,199 --> 01:00:51,159
and plus I think that's also Fanatics has announced there's

1221
01:00:51,239 --> 01:00:54,559
some thing they're doing that day too, so it's actually

1222
01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:58,000
in conjunction, I believe, with a Fanatics event to oh nice,

1223
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:02,039
So I mean talk about time, I mean beautifully secret

1224
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:06,679
Samma Fanatics event Good Card Store where the Good Card

1225
01:01:06,679 --> 01:01:09,480
Store is literally, by the way, one of the best

1226
01:01:09,559 --> 01:01:13,320
Jewish style deli in town. Get away from the card store,

1227
01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:19,840
you can walk to itself and they get a break

1228
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,800
and catering from there. So any time I hear there's

1229
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,320
an event there, I say, I'm going to there, my wife, Okay,

1230
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,079
we're not going out to dinner on Saturday night. You're

1231
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:30,480
gonna have You're gonna have your sandwiches from there. Yeah. Yeah,

1232
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,639
pre planned. And it's a lot of fun. But you know,

1233
01:01:33,719 --> 01:01:36,519
if any it's it's seriously also a lot of fun.

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01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,400
And that to me is like it's a convey convivial

1235
01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:45,559
way to have fun with the hobby. There's low pressure

1236
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:48,360
because you're not you can sell. The stores will sell

1237
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:53,039
you stuff, obviously, but you're already bought your stuff. You're

1238
01:01:53,079 --> 01:01:56,719
gonna be surprised by what people get you. I'll open

1239
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,559
a pack, I'll open boxes thereever I.

1240
01:01:59,559 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: Get I get, yeah, right exactly.

1241
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,039
Speaker 4: And then if there's something to buy at the store,

1242
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:05,800
Oh great, let's buy something at the store.

1243
01:02:06,159 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1244
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,119
Speaker 4: And that, to me is one of the most joyful events.

1245
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:11,559
And I'm I know, I've got a little past eleven.

1246
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,719
Speaker 1: So I have It's all good.

1247
01:02:13,239 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, really one of the most fun events you can have.

1248
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:18,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that.

1249
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that does sound like a lot of fun. Now

1250
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:21,719
I'm now I need to go get a sandwich. I

1251
01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:23,760
think I'm starving now you mentioned the deli.

1252
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1253
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: So I want to thank everybody in the chat. Thank

1254
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,920
you for every This was very very lively today.

1255
01:02:30,199 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

1256
01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 2: You love all the comments except for the ones making

1257
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,800
fun of me asking if I was eating kitty litter.

1258
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,079
I think before that one, I lost my train of

1259
01:02:38,119 --> 01:02:39,320
thought when I read that one in the chat. I

1260
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,480
think that was a seventies card show. I think put

1261
01:02:41,519 --> 01:02:43,280
that one in there, so shout out, shout out to

1262
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:44,679
that comment. I guess I mean it did it?

1263
01:02:44,679 --> 01:02:46,239
Speaker 1: Did it? Three for a little bit of a loop.

1264
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: I can't lie, but yeah, I mean all all I've

1265
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,239
got is basically, well not all I've got, but I

1266
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,199
you know, I'm writing for Sports Illustrated, I've got the

1267
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,079
Hobby News daily podcast. Uh, and then I'm aaunched on

1268
01:02:58,119 --> 01:03:01,320
Twitter kind of promoting stuff and put post in tweets.

1269
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:02,480
So you know, we want to get check me out

1270
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,159
there at Heroes for Sale and then you know, like

1271
01:03:05,199 --> 01:03:06,320
I said, just go check out.

1272
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Speaker 1: All those places.

1273
01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 2: I want to shout out to everybody here in the chat,

1274
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,679
like I said, next week, we'll be back here on

1275
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:19,519
the bench Clear Media Channel with episode three I guess

1276
01:03:19,519 --> 01:03:22,679
twenty four now at this point. So I want to

1277
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,960
thank you everybody for listening watching, Make sure you go

1278
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:27,920
like and subscribe, and we will see you.

1279
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: We'll see you in the chat next week. I guess.

1280
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,639
Have a good one.

1281
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:34,599
Speaker 3: Thank you guys, have a good weekend.

1282
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:35,159
Speaker 1: Nope,