1 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: Hey, Michael Steel podcast listeners. Michael Steele here with another 2 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:14,800 quick take from the Michael Steel Podcast. Check out what's 3 00:00:14,839 --> 00:00:20,480 going on right now? All right, Democrats, stop pissoning your 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,800 own soup, get your act together, get your head out 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,320 of your ass, and understand the moment you're now confronting. Okay, 6 00:00:28,399 --> 00:00:33,079 so everything you've now come to realize, the dirty secrets out. 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,479 Everybody knows Joe Biden is old now, all right, so 8 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,600 help us, help you fix this and move this thing forward. 9 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:42,399 Speaker 2: Yep. 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: And it's been frustrating listening to democrat after democrat Wine 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,000 always got to get out, well, get out of the 12 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:52,840 race and replace him with who at this stage, who 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,240 are you going. 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,799 Speaker 2: To do with you? 15 00:00:57,439 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Where you're gonna go. 16 00:00:58,679 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: I talk with a very senior Democrat the other day 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,960 who said to me, Okay, play this out with me. 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,920 Here's what happens. Joe Biden says, I'm out. Then we 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,239 scramble around for a month and a half till the convention. 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,439 On the first night of the convention, and this person 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,040 said to me, all the lunatics come out and they're like, 22 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:19,040 we're gonna put Jamal Bowman or Bernie Sanders or whoever 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,120 on the ticket. All the crazies roll there, crazy out 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,159 in front of America. The second night, it's an even 25 00:01:25,159 --> 00:01:28,599 worse cat fight. The third night, it comes down to 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,920 Gavin and Kamala, and Gavin wins, and every African American 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,879 member walks out of the goddamn auditorium and the election 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,560 goes into the fucking gutter. And this is a person 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,200 who you would not think is a moderate Democrat. This 30 00:01:42,239 --> 00:01:45,040 is a fairly liberal Democrat who's like our own people 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:51,239 are fucking us, yes, are playing these games, and it's dumb. 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,079 And you know, Michael, I said this right after the debate, 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,680 and I told people this right after the big We're 34 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:00,480 gonna have a lot of different approach on how we 35 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:03,920 do this. My approach and the approach of the organizations 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,599 that I'm privileged to be part of at the Lincoln Project. 37 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:11,960 We are going to continue to cave Donald Trump's head 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,599 in with an iron pipe every goddamn day. There's nothing 39 00:02:15,599 --> 00:02:18,599 else we can do. I can't fix the Democratic Party. 40 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,639 I can't. I don't have standing to tell them how 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,960 to how to do their little selection. I can't talk 42 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,280 to the Biden White House or the campaign. By law, 43 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:32,360 I stay out of those things. All I can do 44 00:02:33,479 --> 00:02:36,280 is drive Donald Trump's numbers down. All I can do 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,479 is drive Donald Trump crazy. All I can do is 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,319 stay in the fight and keep pushing. Because what the 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,719 Trump people want everybody is for everybody to freeze the campaign. 48 00:02:46,759 --> 00:02:49,919 On Thursday night, they go, I want to freeze the 49 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,560 campaign and never do again. That's it, and pretended that 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,639 there's the end of the campaign. We have one hundred 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,400 and twenty plus days to go. We should be spending 52 00:02:59,439 --> 00:03:02,000 every one of these days up in Donald Trump's shit. 53 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:05,120 We should be we should be pounding away on the 54 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:07,960 fact that this guy still is a criminal. He is 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,560 not getting out of that conviction. He was convicted. He's 56 00:03:10,599 --> 00:03:12,599 a felon. He doesn't get to get out of jail 57 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:14,800 free card on that one, folks. It happened before he 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,919 was president, and the actions are not inside his official 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,080 ambit at all. He is going to be Donald Trump 60 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:24,919 every day. That means he's gonna fuck up. That means 61 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,039 he's gonna get weird. He's gonna say stupid shit. He's 62 00:03:27,039 --> 00:03:30,280 gonna talk about sharks and washing machines and crazy shit, 63 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,080 and we're gonna we're gonna hammer him away every single 64 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,080 minute of this campaign, because there's nothing, there's no better 65 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:41,240 or higher calling right now than to fight this guy. 66 00:03:41,719 --> 00:03:44,599 The Democratic Party will have to work this out. The 67 00:03:44,639 --> 00:03:47,319 White House has to figure this out. We can't change that. 68 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,599 But what I can do is not be out there 69 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:52,919 bitching and moaning about it in public to everybody and saying, oh, 70 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:57,080 it's over, and get in the fight people. 71 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:02,599 Speaker 1: Thank you, get in the fight. Thing is, Democrats, from 72 00:04:02,599 --> 00:04:05,639 my experience, really don't know how to do that thing 73 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,599 call fighting politically. They they you know, they think they 74 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:12,039 can beat you with ideas. They think they can beat 75 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,600 you with policy formulations. You and I come from the scrappy, 76 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:20,680 you know, Middle Earth environment where you know you've got 77 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,800 to crawl up out of the ground, right, That's right. 78 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,639 You've got to create the lane in which to win. 79 00:04:27,519 --> 00:04:30,800 And this race requires that right now. I mean, you know, 80 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:37,920 Democrats listening to this conversation, Independent voters listening to this conversation, Democracy, 81 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,439 Republicans listening to this conversation, you know, existentially what's happening 82 00:04:43,519 --> 00:04:48,360 right now, you are watching the disintegration of everything your 83 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,759 family came to this country, whether as a slave or free. Right, 84 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,079 we hear from the very beginning to build this idea, 85 00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:02,519 and we're watching in literally one ruling of the Supreme 86 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,240 Court empowering a crazy asshole. 87 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: Yep, with the potential s as. 88 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: Rick said, pick out his enemies, use the justice system, 89 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,959 use the finance markets, the irs, everybody to go after 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,959 these individuals, and you, at some point you don't think 91 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,319 that shit turns in on you. 92 00:05:24,399 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: That is my point, Michael. You did speak to the 93 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:32,319 right audiences there of democracy. Republicans and Democrats and independents 94 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,240 and independent conservatives are Bannon line, we call it in 95 00:05:35,319 --> 00:05:38,560 the in the Linken Project. But I want to send 96 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,199 a message to our former Republican colleagues who still think 97 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,560 that they're immune all those people around Mitch McConnell, let 98 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,319 me tell you something. When the day comes, Donald Trump 99 00:05:49,399 --> 00:05:52,160 will take his revenge on all of you who criticized him. 100 00:05:52,319 --> 00:05:56,360 That anybody who ever said damn harsh word about him 101 00:05:56,519 --> 00:05:59,720 is going to be on the chopping block. And some 102 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:02,120 of you people who think you're his loyalist right now, 103 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,360 Someday you will step wrong. Someday you will make a mistake, 104 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,399 Someday you will piss him off. And guess what, all 105 00:06:09,519 --> 00:06:12,720 those magnificent tools that you're cheerleading for right now, yay 106 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,519 Trump posts ultimate power, They'll turn on you. And you 107 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,120 know it always works people. You know what when Saddam 108 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,079 Hussein took power in Iraq, he called all of the 109 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,920 Iraqi leadership and the whole legislature into one big hallway 110 00:06:24,959 --> 00:06:27,759 and they shut the doors. Yep, and some of his 111 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,839 most loyal lieutenants ended up being shot in the head 112 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,920 that day because he wanted to show that he could 113 00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:38,040 do anything to anybody and nobody was ever safe. That 114 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,680 is what Donald Trump will do to these people. They 115 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,839 will never You will never If you're a Republican elected official, 116 00:06:43,079 --> 00:06:47,000 you will never be safe. He can betray anyone. Think 117 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,279 about it, folks. If he can screw a porn star 118 00:06:49,399 --> 00:06:52,959 with his recently pregnant wife and infant son in arms, 119 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,720 believe me, he can fuck you too. 120 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:05,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes he will, and yes he will. How do 121 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:08,360 you see say so? Yeah? Steve Bannon going to prison 122 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,480 on Monday, and I just in case y'all missed it, 123 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,560 the TikTok from Rick Wilson with virtually every tweet leading 124 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,240 up to Monday, was just it was Lincoln project goal. 125 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:26,560 Let's just put it that way. So Rick We've put 126 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,879 out a tweet going I'm going to the grocery store 127 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,240 and you know, I know I got to grab a 128 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,560 bunch of things. Oh and Steve Bannon is going to 129 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,000 prison in three days. You know. It was just one 130 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,920 of these things that sort of was hung out there 131 00:07:41,439 --> 00:07:44,360 as a reminder to the very thing you're just talking about, 132 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:49,360 is that in this collection of misfit characters that are 133 00:07:49,399 --> 00:07:53,319 now seemingly being repositioned to take control of the government, 134 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:59,279 you have people who will bring back into this space 135 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,800 and agenda a revenge retribution. Bannon amongst all of them, 136 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,639 when you're out in four or five months, whatever his 137 00:08:07,839 --> 00:08:11,079 sentence is, is going to saddle back up and be 138 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:16,399 right in that space. How does this play out? Do 139 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,079 you think and what is it? What do you think 140 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,759 happens with some of these players like Gates and Green 141 00:08:21,959 --> 00:08:25,720 and Lauren Baalbert and others as they get repositioned for 142 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:29,759 I think the point that you just made an assault 143 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,879 on the good people who stood in the way to 144 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,480 prevent bad things from happening. 145 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: Every single one of the people that have grudgingly accepted 146 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:47,360 Donald Trump over the years, including Mitch McConnell, Mitch McConnell 147 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,039 made a deal with the devil. They decided that they 148 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,399 could build a coalition of Trump's base without the crazy 149 00:08:54,799 --> 00:08:56,399 and so all they had to do was just be 150 00:08:56,519 --> 00:09:00,000 nice to Trump. They couldn't. They never, they never really 151 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,159 understood what the base really is now. But those people 152 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:08,440 like Matt Gates and Lauren Bobert and Margine Taylor Green 153 00:09:08,519 --> 00:09:12,879 and Paul Gosar, the real fanatics. They will lead the 154 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,399 charge to purge and purify the party. They will lead 155 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,879 the charge to be the ones I'm the most loyal Donald, 156 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,720 I'm the most loyal right now. Will they fall on 157 00:09:21,759 --> 00:09:25,039 the endto they always do, But in the meantime they're 158 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,559 gonna be the ones collecting scalps. Look, McCarthy went down 159 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:35,200 in part because Trump was insufficient in his love and 160 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,720 watched and enjoyed watching him be tortured. Trump loves to 161 00:09:39,799 --> 00:09:42,720 humiliate people. He loves to make them beg for his 162 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,080 regard and his love and his forgiveness. And he's never 163 00:09:47,279 --> 00:09:55,000 going to forgive any of them.