Speaker 1: We'll start to Yoda presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester.
Speaker 2: And Matt Flynn.
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Speaker 1: You're locked in to Off the Bench Control the Alive
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Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 4: Welcome.
Speaker 5: I was just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I was so lazy of a yo.
Speaker 5: Try again. It was your running into a seat. He
had something to do.
Speaker 4: I forgot change.
Speaker 2: I forgot to change the panel before the show.
Speaker 4: Guys. Okay, it hits the open.
Speaker 2: I look up. I'm like, that's not the right one.
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Speaker 2: But the worst part is the worst part.
Speaker 7: Is I changed one of them. That It is not
like I just forgot that, like I changed one.
Speaker 3: Just you haven't forgotten to set up Flynn's microphone yet.
Speaker 5: You used to do that to me every never.
Speaker 7: Wanted once about randomly once a month, which anyway, he
would just look at me and I'm like, look up,
well I never when I used to come in just
for the hour, I never had a chair, I never
had a microphone.
Speaker 4: And I certainly never had any headphones. I have to go.
Speaker 8: Digging, digging through the closet in there, things flying out
of there.
Speaker 4: But guess what that.
Speaker 5: Wasn't really tatoes?
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, fairness, we only have like two chairs, got
this a little one over here.
Speaker 8: Well he solved it for a while, you are you
would stand up the whole show, and we were kind
of bringing it back a little bit. But so we
didn't need chairs for a while, right, But then all
of a sudden I go in there and y'all are
being lazy one time Wednesday, y'all are sitting for like
a year.
Speaker 5: We stood, yeah, all show long.
Speaker 3: We do it kind of well, we about half and half,
right about halfway through and get a little antsy, start
to see some squirrels running by.
Speaker 5: Gotta stand up, gotta move the body.
Speaker 4: Were health freaks, you know.
Speaker 6: I do always find myself wishing this chair, this desk
was a little higher up because I always feel like
I have to be like leaned over and I'm like hunching,
and I just feel like gross.
Speaker 8: You don't want to hunch No, Yeah, then you get
the little button, a little buzz buzz button.
Speaker 5: What has a standing desk?
Speaker 9: And that's what Oh yeah, that's what I need.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is a load costco. It's a very low desk,
a weird angle, like.
Speaker 9: At first they were accounting for Mario and Musso.
Speaker 8: Like I'm short jokes seven o three am Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Short, probably average height.
Speaker 7: I'm like the second tallest producer as far as like
nails his waist, I mean sitting straight up like it's
at my waist.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, I don't like I've like always had
an issue with how this dusk is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, love man wins lifted up, wet.
Speaker 4: We can bring some bricks or something.
Speaker 9: Sugar packets.
Speaker 4: Some sugar packets is shaky.
Speaker 6: No, it's actually pretty sturky sugar packets.
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have a lot going on today with would you rather?
Speaker 3: We've got Roddy Jones joining us as well from ESPN,
and we've got the laundra.
Speaker 9: I'm so excited about this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how do we want to go about?
Speaker 9: Should people put their questions in now?
Speaker 5: I think so it's actually ahead.
Speaker 3: I think they should get the questions in now and
then that way you can throw them in the dock
and then you know, whatever time we decide to do it,
then you'll have questions and you can kind of get
a feel for how you want to answer them and
what song maybe you want to play as you.
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Speaker 4: Do we want to kind of guide these questions?
Speaker 8: Are they supposed to be like sad life with like
in a sporty way, no life?
Speaker 6: Or if you want sports questions, I'm more than happy
to answer them. I know so much about hockey, So
if you got hockey questions, this is the place to
do it.
Speaker 5: Hockey answering all of them.
Speaker 9: Every sport on Earth, I know all of them.
Speaker 3: Only hockey team I really you know know a lot
about is the Shreveport Mumbugs.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, all right, right on.
Speaker 5: Sure Tyler had a team.
Speaker 8: Tyler did not have a team. We had like a
semi pro baseball team that I came to Tyler.
Speaker 5: Team or just independent, but it was I think it
was independent.
Speaker 8: It was just semi pro. I think it was old.
It was either people post college that didn't make it
or people.
Speaker 4: That had been like in the minors that were no
longer to get there. I remember our our FM radio station,
one of seven point three. They were running a country.
Speaker 3: They getting a lot of shout out to the old
radio hands Tyler Texas.
Speaker 8: So at the time I think we were middle school,
was like fourth or fifth grade, and they did a
middle schools elementary Oh yeah, that's what's up.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 8: They did a thing where you can't even nominated a
team name, so like the city chose the name of
the baseball team.
Speaker 5: So it was coming there and there was.
Speaker 4: A lot of cool and it's like a lot of
the waiters. The meth gators were one of them. Certainly
laser beams, white, you know, whatever it was. But we
ended up being the Tyler Wildcatters.
Speaker 9: That is.
Speaker 5: Catters.
Speaker 4: Nobody voted on that wildcatters.
Speaker 5: Is that bigger than a normal cat.
Speaker 4: I think a wild catter is like a oil chaser
or something like that, prospector an old prospector who sinks
exploratory oil whales. So Tyler.
Speaker 9: Was going to be the West Texas name than a
East Texas name. I feel like I agree.
Speaker 4: Well, Actually, East Texas a lot of oil there, especially
early nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 9: It was kind of like, I mean the show Dallas,
remember Tyler. I loved that show.
Speaker 8: It was always known to like Tyler kind of skipped
the Great Depression because of the oil there at the time.
Speaker 4: Anyway, let's not do it wildcatters. Why not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, skipped the eat depressions. Well that's cool.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and they got off easy.
Speaker 4: I got off easy. I actually don't know that, so
I don't fashion I remember saying, like the.
Speaker 7: Sounds like six miles over, like you softies, you didn't
even have the Great Depressions.
Speaker 5: About, says Tyler.
Speaker 8: So we used to take a little Wes take field
trips in elementary school to kill Gore Texas. Uh, and
they had like East Texas like oil museum. Yeah, kill
gor Junior college joke, George Bush's favorite city.
Speaker 4: I don't know if we should say that on there,
but it's George Bush's favorite joke. It was like the
middle school joke and.
Speaker 5: Two thousand when they had the rook count.
Speaker 4: It's George W.
Speaker 8: Bush's favorite city in Texas.
Speaker 4: Not cool, cool, George, I mean us.
Speaker 5: Joke even a bad.
Speaker 2: It's a good joke.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 6: No, it's not even like a like a bad You
can't take that. But he didn't really actually kill.
Speaker 5: And he didn't say that. Yeah, he just said watch
his drive watching.
Speaker 4: The draft Weapons of Mass Destruction. I watched his draft.
Speaker 9: What a guy.
Speaker 5: What a guy?
Speaker 9: What a president?
Speaker 5: What a guy? Great guy.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm proud of you for doing your film study.
By the way, I'm still doing it.
Speaker 5: I know we're not going to get fully into it.
Speaker 9: Those are some really late text messages in the Well.
Speaker 4: Look, I I woke up.
Speaker 9: And was like, whoa, what happened last night?
Speaker 4: I'm burning the candle guys.
Speaker 3: Funny the youngest on set was asleep and the old guys.
Speaker 9: Yeah, chopping I sleep.
Speaker 4: Oh you did like go work out like four thirty
yesterday or something? Yea, yeah, yeah, I was up late
studying film, just crunching film on Kate Club Nick for
absolutely no reason. I mean, I don't have a you know,
dog in a fight.
Speaker 8: You know, I'm not game planning for him, just coming
here to give you a little four minute breakdown tomorrow.
Speaker 3: That's your dog in the fight, Mit? Is you doing
your job and breaking down Kate Club Nick?
Speaker 4: That's kind of like.
Speaker 8: I like watching film and I like watching football. Is like,
when I start watching it, that's probably gonna be my thing.
Like if I'm breaking down a team to give a
breakdown on the show or a player.
Speaker 4: I'll probably watch like twelve hours of film for eight minute. That.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we probably need to get you a clicker. Definitely
need to give me a clicker. Definitely have to have
good internet for that. That website, it's just pretty it's
a pretty robust website.
Speaker 3: Well, if you weren't watching card Breaks while you were
watching the tape.
Speaker 4: Card Breaks on my phone, were you on Wi Fi?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you're taking some of it if you would
just give it all, all the bandwidth to the internet.
Speaker 8: Actually, I got a new I got a new modem
the other day because our modem that we've had for
like five years.
Speaker 5: Like fried, just died.
Speaker 4: So I went and got a new one. Suckers humming
doesn't sound like it. Oh, I Actually I came in
this morning. I was watching film this morning in the studio.
It was better at a house than here. This.
Speaker 5: Well, I can tell you that, no for being a media.
Speaker 3: Company, media company, this little internet some fiber over here?
Speaker 5: Is that what y'all have over there?
Speaker 4: Look, we got whatever internet everybody else got. I don't
know what we have over here.
Speaker 5: It spins a lot over here.
Speaker 7: I doubt this is fiber, just because like it kind
of goes out a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like well and.
Speaker 7: Like this goes out because of like like weather and
all that, like the wind and like fibers in the ground.
Speaker 4: Doubt this is fiber.
Speaker 8: You gotta fill in the wire here coming from the
road or wherever it comes from.
Speaker 4: It's just like laid on the tape.
Speaker 2: It it's it's fiber.
Speaker 7: They never buried the lines there.
Speaker 8: They put tape on it. They forgot about it. Some
parts is exposed a little bit, so don't touch it.
And when like someone drives over it, that's when the
internet goes out, when someone drives over to the parking lot.
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Speaker 3: All right, So I'm gonna kind of combine a couple
of the segments together here that are in the doc
and Taylor, you did a good job of putting at
eight am, if you'll see there.
Speaker 5: The LSU Freak of the Week is Chris Hilton. June.
Speaker 3: The Freak of the Week is somebody that in the
weight room out there on the field doing the drills
has caught the eye of the shrink staff. It's crazy
me and Flynn never won the Freak of the Week
demand to recount, but not officially, not officially, we're.
Speaker 5: Not even on like the little the wall that they
used to have back there.
Speaker 3: But Chris Hilton Junior is, and as we know, Chris
Hilton Junior is somebody that certainly LSU fans were excited about.
Speaker 5: He gets hurt during training camp, it was a long road.
Speaker 3: Back to the field, and once he got back to
the field, you saw the rust. But at the end
of the year he was thriving and he was that target,
that deep threat that Garrett Nessmeyer had been waiting on.
Had a great game against Oklahoma, did great in the
bowl game. So there's Chris Hilton Junior well over on
ESPN dot com. And here's where we combine some of
the segments they for every top twenty five team kind
of highlighted somebody that is going to be a sleeper
for that team. Well, there is is receiver Barry and Brown.
Speaker 5: So you start to look.
Speaker 3: At some of the things surrounding these targets for Garrett
Nusmeyer some of the preseason hype, and those are you know,
two guys that weren't.
Speaker 5: The leading receiver.
Speaker 3: The leading receiver was actually Aaron Anderson, who's also back
on this team. You get Nick Anderson to transfer from Oklahoma,
you get two new tight ends to come in to
this offense. And so when you start to look around,
and by the way, Barrion Brown and Chris Hilton Junior
the NCAA video game, the you know, the ratings got released,
they are two of the fastest ten people on the game.
Speaker 5: They're both top three fast ten.
Speaker 3: Yeah, overall, regardless of position, those two guys are top ten.
So you got some real burners. You got a little
bit of everything. Nick Anderson has the size. Aaron Anderson
thrived in the slot trade. As Green's gonna kind of
be all over the place. He'll be like a true f.
Probably not lining up a lot as a why, but
he's gonna be a true F. He's going to kind
of move around, think like Antonio Gates, Travis Kelcey, that
kind of role. I think the weapons are better this
year for Garrett Nesmier than they were a year ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're.
Speaker 8: The offense we said at the other day, the offense
that LSU is going to be able to put there
weekend week out in twenty twenty five has the potential. No, no,
you know, barn, there's's gotta have some fortune. You got
to you gotta stay healthy, you gotta do all the
things right, you gotta do all the things you have
to do anytimes you want to make a run. But
they're gonna have the opportunity to have a squad that
anytime they touch the ball, LSU fans are gonna feel
pretty comfortable that we got a shot to go down
and score at least three. Now, we had this with
with Jayden Daniels in his senior year. Hey, it doesn't
matter what the time of the game it was, it
doesn't matter what yard line it was on, what the
situation was.
Speaker 4: We were all really.
Speaker 8: Really confident that Jaydon Daniels in that offense was gonna
cook and they were gonna go down there.
Speaker 5: They were shocked if they didn't score a touch, you
really were.
Speaker 8: And it was because we kept seeing it and they
like even at the beginning middle of the year, we're like,
all right, man, this is there's no way this is
gonna happen. There's no way they can score six times
in a row, right like, and they just kept doing
it and doing it, no matter what the no matter
what the situation was. So we have a chance because
of the talent, because of the the experience that we
have at quarterback. It's such it's such an important thing.
So you're one to year two for Garrett Nessmayer as
a full time starter is going to be a big
jump in a positive way. Now there are things that
he did last year that you can't really improve on
because he was making NFL throws, NFL reads. But there
was lulls.
Speaker 4: During the season. We saw it in the second half
versus Texas Day and now we see it, we see
little mistakes here and there.
Speaker 8: Those things will get cleaned up. Now, everything's not going
to be perfect all the time. No one can expect
that in any any situation or any sport. But there
is that jump from your one to year two. It's
going to be exponential, I believe from the little little
things from the quarterback position, so from the timing, his
pre snap reads, post snap reads, how he gets the
ball out, his rhythm, his comfortability reading over the middle,
getting from first read secondary third read and just like
you described that first read secondary third read are all dudes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just said it. Two guys that.
Speaker 8: Are in the top ten and speed and you know
video game, but that's based on real life statistics, right
Aaron Anderson receiver leading receiver receivers, shifty, a trustworthy guy.
And this seems like we're putting together a wide receiver
corps that not only understands what to do in the offense,
but they understand the why of what they're doing, Like
not only like, Okay, I have I have a backside
twelve to fourteen yard end route. Okay, great, I know
how to run that route. I do it every day
in seven on seven. I do it every day routes
on air. But they understand why why is that route
added to as a backside tag to a three by one?
Speaker 4: I'll go special with a hinge on the outside, Like,
why is it added to that? What is the timing
of that route? Okay, it's cover three? I know right
now based on cover three, I'm the third read. So
do I need to run a four to two nine
to get to my spot? No?
Speaker 8: I don't need to do it because I'm gonna get
past the hall before the quarterback's right coming to me.
So they under and that's what you get with experience.
That's what you get with an experienced quarterback, but experience
wide receiver group and an offense that has been doing
it at a high level for multiple years.
Speaker 3: So, as we mentioned Aaron Anderson coming back, sixty one catches,
eight hundred and eighty four yards, over fourteen yards per catch,
and had five scores. Now you lose a couple of
guys to graduation. C DA Daniels goes to Miami, so
he moves on there. But again like you're replacing him
with Brian Brown and you got Nick Anderson coming in.
But also like Chris Hilton Junior last year, I know,
I know, I know how many catches he had. Look,
we talked a lot about him on the show. It
was nine catches, but he averaged twenty seven yards per catch,
and in those nine catches he had three touchdowns. At
the end of the year, defensive backs were terrified that
he was going to run past him, and for good reason,
because he did. Right, you finally started to see that
connection if that connection can continue to grow. Right when
he even talked about Xavion Thomas yet who Look, he's
kind of a jack of all trades. I think you're
gonna see him line up kind of everywhere. I mean, hell,
he ran counter like three times last year from the
running back position. So I think Chris Hilton Junior, though,
is going to be massive for how far this team goes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you need a guy that can take the top off, right,
you have to have that. You gotta got.
Speaker 8: You have to have a deep threat, a speed threat.
But I think, thank he's so much more than that.
I think he's a crisp we're outrunner. I think he
does all the things well that you need him to
do on the outside. And yeah, you saw him when
he came back from injury last year.
Speaker 4: He had missed.
Speaker 8: We had some some misstime jumps and little things that
it's like, I mean, hell, this dude has been out
for a long time. He's getting thrown in there, and yeah,
there's gonna be some some missteps, but that got cleaned
up real fast. And so man, it's a lot to
look forward to. Chris Hilden's gonna be a huge, huge
part of it. Looking forward to him staying healthy and
getting out the field and kind of looking for a
lot of these guys to take over.
Speaker 4: Man, there's gonna be this.
Speaker 8: This has like the the potential. This has the feeling
of an offense that you know I'm gonna do. Like
comparisons from my experience, right uh So, like when we
were in Green Bay and we had wide receiver corps
with Greg Jennings, James Jones, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, Jerichael
Finley at tied end, like we had some point like this,
it was spread out evenly, like everyone had a different
skill set. And I feel like that's like this with
this LSU team. Everybody we very talented across the board,
different skill sets. But like when we were in Green Bay,
it was like, Okay, well this week it was James
Jones's day one and seven, right, Oh, next week, all right,
it was Jordi caught three touchdowns in two twenty The
next day, next game, Greg Jennings, Like you just never
knew you didn't have just that one dude. Everybody had
a key on, like Calvin Johnson with the Lions that
we always had a key on that guy.
Speaker 4: You don't.
Speaker 8: This is a kind of a luxury, an embarrassment of riches.
I guess from a talent standpoint, because they can't just say,
all right, we're gonna double this guy and zone everybody else.
Speaker 3: So what would you like to see them do with
trade as Green? Now he's you know, obviously going to
fully move back to tight end. Last year a little
back and forth between tight end and receiver. I mean
last year he had thirteen catches, but of those thirteen catches,
four went for touchdowns.
Speaker 4: That's decent. Yeah, pretty good, low percentage there.
Speaker 3: Look, he is going to be a unique part of
an offense because he's not going to be a hand
in the dirt y tight end.
Speaker 5: He's not going to always just live in the slot.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 3: He's going to have to do some things in the
run game as well, because like, the last thing that
you want to do is fall into tendencies. Okay, man, Hey,
when Treds is lined up here, they're not running the football, right.
You've got to be able to run the football. You've
got to be able to do the things that we're
talking about. And you are an X factor in the
past game, and you brought in two other tight ends
to help you out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the tight end position has changed so much,
Like there are very few just old school traditional tight
ends that are gonna.
Speaker 8: I mean you have like your your George Kittles that
are that can that can do both be explosive in
the past game but also knock your block off in
the in the running game.
Speaker 5: You have very few of that.
Speaker 8: So we were talking about tight ends last week and
we were talking about Travis Kelsey as well. Yeah, he's
just a glorified like big wide receiver.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 8: He does blocking and he can get it done. But
how they use him a lot of shifts motion. There's
a lot of bluff blocks, like so you fake the block,
go to the flat, fake the block, run a drag
right across the middle, whatever it is. Like, if you
do it that way, then you can you can make
a guy that's not such a natural like hard nosed blocker,
you can make him a successful blocker because if a
defensive end never knows if he's actually blocking or he's
bluffing and going around him, you keep him off balanced
a little bit.
Speaker 4: But you very expert. I mean in college football we.
Speaker 3: Would do that stuff too, where all right, you got
you know this grown man rusher on the edge, well,
at fullback, I would run right at him and then
the last minute, I would, you know, kind of duck
outside and then go to the next level, and here
comes somebody to wipe him out. Right, here comes maybe
a backside tight end, and maybe it looks like a
two poll er kind of Look, it's because the tight
end you're trying to help him out as much as
you can. You're trying to slow the edge rusher down
so he can just kind of clean him up on
your way to the second level. Like, there's ways, and
I don't want to say to hide it, but there's ways.
Speaker 4: Look for any advantage you can.
Speaker 8: That's what good good offensive coordinators do, is like Taylor,
the offense around your skill set. Right, So, like I said,
there's not many just I'm gonna line up in front
of you. I'm gonna put my face mask in your
face mask. I can block anybody. Well, we used to
have some tight ends to who was it in Seattle?
He had a guy Zach.
Speaker 4: Miller. Yeah, Arizona State Zach Miller. Is that right? Oh
my god?
Speaker 8: Like that dude would block your face off like he was.
He could pass block almost better than our offensive tackles. Yeah,
that dude. You just don't see that a lot in
this day and age, in this type of game and
in that and frankly that position wouldn't fit in the
offense right now. So yeah, they can utilize him obviously
touchdown threat, red zone threat, but utilize him just like
you do like a he the like Travis.
Speaker 4: Kelcey in Kansas City.
Speaker 8: A glorified big wide receiver creates matchup problems, especially when
you if you can per like with personnel, with formation,
with motions, if you can get a matched up on
a smaller dB too. That's the job of Joe Sloan.
How can I create advantageous matchups for my personnel, for
my strengths, for my tall guys or my big guys,
for my fast guys.
Speaker 3: Also, I think, look, you got to be able to
run the football, and you got to be able to
do that to take some pressure off of your passing game.
Last year, the offensive line, we talked about it. They
were elite in past protection. They were I mean, you
looked at at some of the pockets and outside of
maybe one game, they did a really nice job of
protecting Garrett Nesmyer, giving him the opportunity to step up
in the pocket.
Speaker 5: It has to go up in the run game.
Speaker 3: And look, you had four offensive linemen drafted off that
offensive line last year, so a very talented group. They
got to figure it out how like whatever it is schematically,
the running backs being able to read it, just a
lot of like Look, Kateen Dorman was a freshman, did
a fantastic had a hell of a freshman year. He
was banged up most of the year. I believe it
was like he had a broken towers, like two toes
or something crazy like that, and he still went out
there and played at a really high level. But that
part of it has to go up because you got
to take some pressure off the passing game to not
have to go out there and feel like they got
to do it through the air.
Speaker 5: And again, Katin Dorm was good last year.
Speaker 3: Seven hundred and fifty three yards over five yards almost
five and a half per carry, had an eighty six yarder,
six touchdowns. Josh Williams was kind of mister consistent. He
came in. He gave you four hundred and eighty two
yards on the ground as well. But it was like
you got to be able to dictate the pace of
the game sometimes impose your will on the defense and
say now we're running the football and there's nothing you
can do about it.
Speaker 5: They didn't have that last year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 8: That was that was the most frustrating part of this
season last year, watching just from home or the stands
where we were watching, it was, I get it, like
in this this with our offense, with our skill set
that we have, Yeah, we're gonna throw the ball. It's
gonna be a throw first situation.
Speaker 4: That's what we're.
Speaker 8: Gonna like when the backs against the wall, that's what
we're gonna lean to. And then we're gonna throw you
off balance with with some running game here and there.
But the frustrating part for all of us was when
we had to run, when we got in third and
short and lots of fourth and shorts and we had
to run. When you told the defense, I know we're running.
You know we're running. Let's just see who wins. We
didn't win. We just didn't do it.
Speaker 4: And so you can say, you can you can call
it a lot of things.
Speaker 8: You can call the running, the woes and the running game,
you know, lack of creativity. We need to add this
and that, and we can get into those x's and
o's about what we feel like they should do in
the running game. From from a schematic standpoint, but at
the end of the day, when it's worth the one,
you have to there's an attitude that's involved. You have
to the offensive line that have to be taught to
they have to get the first down with their body
if they won any chance of the running back getting
the first down. That's where you used to always teaching
the goal one. That's what all of our coaches, whether
it was Jimbo krista.
Speaker 4: Less crowdon, whatever it was, it was telling the offensive
lineman on if it's third and one, fourth and one
on the.
Speaker 8: Goal, you have to score. You have to score, finish
in the end zone if you want any chance. And
you know, it just was very disappointing last year from
that standpoint. I don't know if it was just physical matchup. Maybe,
you know, obviously the offensive line.
Speaker 4: They were more talented at pass blocking, and that's what
that's why they got a bunch of them playing in
the next level, because that's what NFL lineman they'd always
used to come to me and be like, you know,
I don't really care about run blocking.
Speaker 8: Run block for show, pass block for dough buddy, Like
they didn't bring me here, they didn't draft me in
the first round to come here and run block.
Speaker 3: Are all turns, leaving us out there on an island
to do it all by ourself.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we gotta get better this year.
Speaker 8: We gotta be better running the ball, whether it's third
and short, fourth and short, or just.
Speaker 4: First and ten.
Speaker 8: We have to be able to threaten if we can't threaten,
because play action is such a big part of this offense,
and it needs to be if we want to be
able to make the run we want to.
Speaker 3: Last year, real quick, before we take a break, Lsu
ran the football three hundred and forty six times. Forty
nine were outside zone. That's fourteen percent inside zone one
hundred and sixty one of the three forty six, so
about half the time forty seven percent when you were
running the football it was inside zone. You ran only
eight powers all year long. Two percent of your runs.
Now you did run counter a bunch. Twenty two percent
of your runs came from counters, which you ran seventy
seven times.
Speaker 8: And I'm basing all this on memory of watching the
game last year, watching all the games last year, probably
with few pops in me at the time too, But
I like a lot of you said forty seven percent
on inside zone on our running plays. I would say
the first half of that game or first half of
the season was probably like seventy five eighty percent. Now
they started sprinkling in some new schemes later on in
the season.
Speaker 5: Counter I mentioned that was one of your bigger runs, but.
Speaker 4: It was more towards the end of the year.
Speaker 8: Right beginning of the season, it was inside inside, inside, inside, inside, outside, inside,
inside outside, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It was. It was that kind of deal.
Speaker 8: And that's the that's the difficult part about going fast
as an offense and running muddle huddles or no huddles,
and just the new day and age in football is
there's not that many schemes you can get to. Like
that's what we used to always say on offense, like
if we go fast, the defense doesn't have a time
or a chance to like get into these intricate like
walk around defenses. They don't have a lot. They can't
you know, bluff you a lot. They have to run
pretty much base. But it also affects you because you
kind of have to run bas But you see teams
doing it all the time. They're running counters, they're running powers,
they're running ISOs, They're running different things in that situation.
So I'm sure it's been a point of emphasis. It
has to be like they can't.
Speaker 4: They can't sit there and look at the film last
year and say, yep, let's Prinson repeat that. Baby?
Speaker 5: What was yase code word for counter you're talking about
like muddle huddle.
Speaker 4: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: I don't know for us Laddell for Chuck, Liddell was left,
all right, Shamrock for Ken, Shamrock was right.
Speaker 4: I like that because it's counterpunchers. I had to learn
a lot of offenses. Buddy, I can't remember all right.
I don't remember the run plays either, the run places.
Speaker 5: Think I knew that was coming as well.
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Speaker 1: Com, Tigers Turn Talkers. This is off the bench right.
Speaker 5: Down to this day, shine where you.
Speaker 3: We will school, all right, Welcome back in OH TB
one O four FI I, ESPN, Beton Rouge. Waiting on
that list for SEC Media Day for players. We got
the Big ten and the Big twelve over the last
couple of days. So for the Big twelve, some teams
are sending three, some are sending five.
Speaker 5: There's one.
Speaker 3: I think that save there's one that's sending like seven.
I think nobody is like sending the same amount. Now
for the Big ten, it's the normal three. But Colorado
is sending their kicker, sure, and also two quarterbacks? Why
not including one of them being a true freshman.
Speaker 4: It's a great experience for that young man. What are
we doing? What we doing?
Speaker 5: You gotta send two quarters?
Speaker 3: I mean you got a quarterback coming over from Liberty
that fully expects to be the guy. It's not something
we're like, wait, we just wanted to go get some
experience be around some of those guys, because it's supposed
to be like an honor to be able to like
if if you were the quarterback and they sent the
true freshman quarterback with you, when you'd be like, hold up,
wait a minute, I.
Speaker 4: Don't know's that's a good question.
Speaker 8: So I was a fiftier senior and I didn't I
didn't even get invited.
Speaker 3: Did you go I was getting married? You were with me?
Oh yeah during c media to day yep. It's when
you were asking am I an usher or a groomsman
in this deal?
Speaker 8: After there's no there's no dumb questions out there, buddy, who.
Speaker 3: I think early? Definitely definitely Glenn. Who else would have
gone if we didn't know?
Speaker 9: Wait, I don't know what you're y'all are talking about, but.
Speaker 5: Didn't t Bob.
Speaker 4: Bob was a freshman, was back in eleven's Little s
Bird freshman at the time seven.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess these guys that are on the team
for a while that year, Chennis Jackson.
Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe I'm trying to look it up,
but I just don't know that to.
Speaker 8: Your point, it is weird that freshman considering that, like
I would, we were indoctrinated to Nick Saban having a
rule that freshman can ever talked to the media for
a full year that.
Speaker 5: You weren't even allowed to.
Speaker 3: Like, you could have the best game in the world,
you could be.
Speaker 5: The reason that your team won.
Speaker 8: I think the exception for Justin Vincent.
Speaker 3: He but he was even different. You mentioned it yesterday
because JV. Gray shirted, so he wasn't his first year
on campus. If you don't know what gray shirted like
really means, it kind of it's a deal that Saban
used to do, and different reasons for different people. But
you know, you can kind of hide and get an
extra scholarship in there if you gray Shirt.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just someone just like shifting things around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like he liked.
Speaker 5: To medical people a lot as well.
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, oh, you weren't as good as we
thought you were going to be. Your toes kind of
hurting right now. I just don't know if football is
the thing for you. But if we medical you, you
can still stay on scholarship.
Speaker 5: You just can't really come around here anymore.
Speaker 4: Don't let the nowhere hit you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can still go eat at the Pentagon. We'll
stay you know, we'll pay for your West Campus apartment,
but you stay on scholarship. But we get that scholarship
back to be able to give it to someone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: The gray shirt was Yeah, Trindon Holliday gray shirt did right.
Speaker 5: He was my class and then end up till the
next one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: If like you report the school, you still go to school, Yes, okay,
to school, just can't be around the football team. You
can't do any team activities. You gotta work out on
your own. I really don't even think you could come
in the building. But again, it was a way. So
Trenton was my signing class, and for whatever reason they
decided to gray shirt you.
Speaker 5: Well, then you get to use that scholarship for that.
Speaker 3: Football season on someone else, even though you're still tied
in with the school as well. If there was a
way to get an extra scholarship, that staff was.
Speaker 5: Gonna do it.
Speaker 4: We're gonna find it.
Speaker 3: I remember, like I got I kind of got hurt
when I first got here, like a couple a month
or two months in, we were doing the ladder drill and.
Speaker 5: I hit my toe on that metal.
Speaker 3: Ladder that we used to use, and it was just
like broke my like a bone in my I think
probably my big toe, right, And so I was out
there hobbing on a little bit.
Speaker 5: I was just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 3: I remember saving being like, hey, you can't get this
deal figured out, like in the next two weeks, like
we might have to gray shirt you.
Speaker 5: I'm like, shoot it up, do whatever you gotta do.
I don't know, I am not about to.
Speaker 8: Go I haven't thought about those metal ladders in a
long time. Yeah, we used to bust out those metal
and you're running on them with cleats on back in
the day.
Speaker 4: You had different cleats, so you had some cleats that
were pretty.
Speaker 8: Slick, and if you hit one of those, man like
usually like a speed ladder. If everybody you know, I'm
just assuming, like most listeners know what it is. It's
like and now now you just you like a rope ladder,
little squares, it's like a quick foot drill, foot accuracy,
foot speed, whatever. But these were metal and if you
hit the side of him, your your foot was coming
out from under you. You were stubbing a tail, you're
breaking a tail, you were slipping with a cleat on it.
But you know, just all to make as better football players,
really mentally tough.
Speaker 3: I'll never forget the day, and we tell the story often.
But when it was hotter than hot en baton Rouge,
like it often is in the summertime, you could see
the heat rising if you're on the ground, so we're stretching,
we're on the ground, I mean, just miserably hot. And
when Saban's walking up and you had the oil refinery
in the background.
Speaker 4: That was my first experience a.
Speaker 5: Fire.
Speaker 3: The flames going over coach Saban's head as he walks
towards you to whisper sweet nothing's to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: It was my first training camp and I was laying
on the ground stretching, like probably second week ald training camp.
Everyone's miserable. We had just taken the prison buses over,
sitting there on the ground stretching.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was.
Speaker 8: It was, you know, stretching your quads, hamstrings, whatever it was.
I'll look up and yeah, Savings just stretting towards us,
and the you know how it gets hot. It's just wavy,
just waving, and I see Saving come walking through the waves,
and that oil refinery back there is blowing fire like
right over his.
Speaker 4: Head, and I'm like, oh god, this is the devil.
This is him. I don't think that anymore, but that
at that moment, on that yep, because you are in hell.
So if there's a hell, there's a devil.
Speaker 3: And on that note, we'll take our last break of
our number one deer Alandra coming up in our number
two Alandra.
Speaker 5: I think we should do it at eight.
Speaker 9: Am, just ride out the gates. There's like a couple
of questions, well, would you okay.
Speaker 4: Can we confirm is it dear Landra or is it
Delandra or.
Speaker 6: Which one do we we did do the music yesterday.
Speaker 8: You play because Jays I don't know this, but Jake
and I have really good singing, really really good.
Speaker 5: Shocked.
Speaker 9: I was shocked by how good it was.
Speaker 8: Delandre one of our generation, shout us out. I think
it's gotta be dear Delandrix and.
Speaker 3: Delila, That's what I'm saying. Okay with it. Get your
questions in. We could look if you don't get them
in and we can move it. We can move it
to eight thirty, just depending on you.
Speaker 4: Oh and don't like like dumb questions, Okay, make them good.
Speaker 5: If you're trying to get real advice from Delandra.
Speaker 9: I mean I give good advice.
Speaker 5: Like for real fun I know, for real, for real.
That's why. That's why it's a segment.
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Speaker 5: Does your brain hurt when you had to have to
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Speaker 3: What's the big music festival? It's I think it's going
on right now. It's in England.
Speaker 9: I just went, oh Glastonbury.
Speaker 5: Yes, Yeah, this is Likeston.
Speaker 9: That's like Glastonbury or something like that.
Speaker 5: We're thinking about the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like this song, Like songs like this remind me
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Speaker 5: Are electric, they're crazy electric.
Speaker 9: I think y'all the one of I think Gordy will
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High pay for a trip to Glastonbury?
Speaker 5: You can write it off. I'll get tell you what my.
Speaker 4: High can sponsored?
Speaker 8: The per diem twenty three dollars a day.
Speaker 5: That didn't really gets very far.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're asking for they just give us when we
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Speaker 3: Do you want my High to be just here in
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Speaker 9: True, are we.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Glastonbury is a word that I would have thought
you just made up. Yeah, for sure, it sounds like
it made up word. But y'all both knew it, which
is surprising. Yeah, no, I never heard of this.
Speaker 9: I sent y'all the video of the verb doing Bittersweet Symphony.
Speaker 5: You're very much? And when do they do that music?
Speaker 4: People?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 9: We are music people.
Speaker 4: They can still play that.
Speaker 9: That was a while.
Speaker 2: The video means they they.
Speaker 4: Got sued like a long time ago for a lot
of money for plagiarism.
Speaker 9: Wait, who did really?
Speaker 8: Yes, they got sued like long time ago, lots of Yeah,
they stole that whole song.
Speaker 4: They had to pay it all back.
Speaker 9: No way, no way, that's a great song. Ruined the
song for me.
Speaker 4: Well, Glastonbury twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 5: I did not know this.
Speaker 4: In fact, look it up, we'll figure it out. You
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