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Speaker 1: not just talking about Turkey Day, talking about this moment
Speaker 1: we're living through together, which I think is going to
Speaker 1: go down in history, already starting to write as one
Speaker 1: of those watershed moments in all of American and by extension,
Speaker 1: human history, where all of the sudden, you see things
Speaker 1: turn around and you see dramatic improvement, and you know
Speaker 1: how momentum works in your own life and in the
Speaker 1: life of a nation in the world, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, this momentum gets going in the right direction
Speaker 1: for a change, because we've had momentum in the wrong
Speaker 1: direction for way too long, and we and it just
Speaker 1: it not only turns into a snowball, it turns into
Speaker 1: an avalanche, and that it begins to change expectations. That
Speaker 1: that wait a second, Okay, now we're heading on a
Speaker 1: right track. And now hey, now our expectations rise, and
Speaker 1: now we really want our city, our state, our country
Speaker 1: to be what we always envisioned it to be, because
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were given up on that.
Speaker 1: So think of how much has been triggered pun intended
Speaker 1: by this Trump victory. And the reason I start to
Speaker 1: show this way today is, first, hey, this celebration should
Speaker 1: continue even if we didn't get this monumental, this monumental
Speaker 1: assist to the GOP and by extension America. You know,
Speaker 1: in the last few hours, we'd still be celebrating today
Speaker 1: because of all the great stuff that's happening just by
Speaker 1: Trump winning.
Speaker 2: But now you layer.
Speaker 1: On top of it, maybe the best thing to happen
Speaker 1: in the Republican Party since a Blincoln with Joe Biden
Speaker 1: now just fully exposing the Democratic Party for the fraud
Speaker 1: it is, right, just the intellectual moral fraud it is.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what's just happened through this pardon of
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, and that the benefit to the GOP, I
Speaker 1: think goes so far beyond what people are talking about
Speaker 1: right now, because as a former Democrat myself who made
Speaker 1: that journey and I know a bunch of people have,
Speaker 1: but not everybody has yet, but made that journey from
Speaker 1: being a Democrat for all the right reasons as I
Speaker 1: saw them as a kid, and then thinking I would
Speaker 1: never in a million years vote for a Republican, only
Speaker 1: had one in the whole extended family. To now making
Speaker 1: the journey, you know, to celebrating the election of a
Speaker 1: Republican president as saving the Union. That's a long journey
Speaker 1: to make. And the only way you make that journey
Speaker 1: is if you're following the facts, You're following the truth.
Speaker 1: You would never make that journey for selfish reasons, because
Speaker 1: where the heck's are going to get you?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: The GOP brand has been so down for so long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to be one of the cool kids, you
Speaker 1: want this and that you don't gravitate to the GOP brand,
Speaker 1: at least not at the time I did, indeed.
Speaker 2: But you do right now.
Speaker 1: And that's my point is between Donald Trump just dramatically
Speaker 1: changing the image of the GOP shifting it to a
Speaker 1: party of the working people. And this is the key now, okay,
Speaker 1: because for all the great things Trump has accomplished, hey,
Speaker 1: he only has one more four year term, and as
Speaker 1: a practical matter, after the midterms and it becomes even
Speaker 1: tougher to get things done.
Speaker 2: It saves America right, but it doesn't last forever.
Speaker 1: And as I've pointed out repeatedly since Election Day, an
Speaker 1: awful lot of these people who gave the margin a
Speaker 1: victory on election Night were Trump voters, not Republican voters.
Speaker 2: But there's a window there to keep them.
Speaker 1: And that's why this gift that Joe Biden has given
Speaker 1: to the GOP, I don't think can be fully grasped yet,
Speaker 1: because what it does is it causes a lot of
Speaker 1: people who don't see the world like you and me.
Speaker 1: It causes a lot of people who don't like the
Speaker 1: Republican Party, who don't like conservatism, who have this areotype
Speaker 1: of Conservatives and Republicans. It causes an awful lot of
Speaker 1: people now to shift away from the Democratic Party. That's
Speaker 1: the key is, I was saying down the stretch in
Speaker 1: the campaign. Yeah, we got to win first and foremost,
Speaker 1: got to win the presidency. But the other thing that
Speaker 1: has to be accomplished is exposing the left. Because if
Speaker 1: you're looking for this tectonic shift in America and you
Speaker 1: want it to last long term, then it's not enough
Speaker 1: for the GOP to get a boost. You have got
Speaker 1: to expose the Democratic Party for what it's become. Because
Speaker 1: I know it may be hard for you to relate
Speaker 1: to if you've never been a Democrat, like I used
Speaker 1: to be a Democrat. But there are a whole lot
Speaker 1: of Democrats who just vote that way out of habit
Speaker 1: and out of not liking the GOP. So to really
Speaker 1: turn this battleship around and keep it going in the
Speaker 1: right direction, you've got to open the eyes of a
Speaker 1: lot of Democrat voters and Democrat leaners to the reality
Speaker 1: of what their party has become. Because you get so
Speaker 1: many Democrats, they don't listen to shows like this, whether
Speaker 1: they're on the right or the left. They live their lives,
Speaker 1: they're not immersed in politics each and every day. It
Speaker 1: takes something pretty big to open their eyes and get
Speaker 1: them to rethink assumptions.
Speaker 2: So when you get something.
Speaker 1: Like this that just helps expose the modern Democratic Party
Speaker 1: for what it is that that can make. That's the
Speaker 1: kind of generational changer right there. So this is huge,
Speaker 1: and the fact that comes on top of all of
Speaker 1: this success that Trump has been having even before being
Speaker 1: sworn in. Yeah, this is what makes for lasting change
Speaker 1: in America and the world. So words that we rarely
Speaker 1: speak on the show, but we have to today. Thank
Speaker 1: you Joe Biden. Thank you for Joe Biden, for exposing
Speaker 1: your party for what it is, exposing yourself for who
Speaker 1: you are. And what a gift to Trump, I mean
Speaker 1: a kind of a side note, what a gift to Trump.
Speaker 1: And there's real poetic justice in this too, right because
Speaker 1: on this I note. Now, Trump can pardon anybody wants to. Ryan,
Speaker 1: you got to go out and commit some crime, so
Speaker 1: Trump can pardon you. Trump can pardon anybody he wants to.
Speaker 2: Right now. Who's going to say a word about it?
Speaker 4: Nope?
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you a good place to start. I
Speaker 1: haven't studied each in every case, but it's very clear
Speaker 1: you got a bunch of pro lifers wrongfully convicted and
Speaker 1: thrown into jail by this Biden administration, So you can
Speaker 1: start there. I know an awful lot of people, and
Speaker 1: I haven't studied those cases individually, but an awful lot
Speaker 1: of people believe you've got a bunch of not all,
Speaker 1: but a bunch of j six convicted people who should
Speaker 1: be pardoned.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 2: So Trump can pardon anybody who wants to. Yep.
Speaker 1: And truly, who is going to say a word unless
Speaker 1: it was like Charlie Manson, is he still alive? But
Speaker 1: I think those were state charges as well. We all
Speaker 1: Tina Peters he well state charges. Yeah, so he wouldn't
Speaker 1: have that power that would have to come from Polis
Speaker 1: and not holding my breath at all, hold on there
Speaker 1: and we are going to talk about Polis.
Speaker 5: But you're the legal mind here, and I think we're
Speaker 5: going to try to get Andy McCarthy on for Tuesday. Wonderful,
Speaker 5: But this blanket pardon, it wasn't just for specifically tax evasion.
Speaker 5: The gun charges done is for whatever he might have
Speaker 5: done dating back over ten years, almost eleven years on the.
Speaker 2: Calendar before an agent charge.
Speaker 5: So what you're saying it's only for federal charges, But
Speaker 5: what if there were state level charges? I mean, I
Speaker 5: don't know everything that Hunter Biden's done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but which prosecutor would be in a position to
Speaker 1: bring those But we all know by now right. I
Speaker 1: don't even want to take your time with it, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you covered it on your great show. We
Speaker 1: all know by now that what I've been saying for
Speaker 1: a very long time is true. Hunter Biden owns Joe
Speaker 1: Biden and he has for a very long time, because
Speaker 1: in my constitutionally protected opinion, and I think it's reinforced
Speaker 1: by what Joe Biden just did you know, Hunter Biden
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden I believe were involved in.
Speaker 2: Mega corruption together.
Speaker 1: I believe Hunter was the bag man, and so Hunter
Speaker 1: can destroyed Joe, as I've been saying for a long time,
Speaker 1: any time he wants to, is is my belief. And
Speaker 1: so so yeah, I mean, why do you think we
Speaker 1: talked about it at the time. Why do you think
Speaker 1: all of a sudden after the debate debacle, Hunter Biden
Speaker 1: moves into the White House or at least is in
Speaker 1: the White House advising Biden. I mean, just goofy stuff
Speaker 1: like that, Hunter Biden can destroy Joe and a heartbeat,
Speaker 1: and he still might after Joe dives.
Speaker 2: You know, Hunter Biden's going to need money, now, was
Speaker 2: there some was there?
Speaker 1: I underline that some kind of big payoff involved, whether
Speaker 1: it's in book deals or other legal means, you know,
Speaker 1: to get Biden out of the race. You know what
Speaker 1: I expect, well probably know someday. But if Hunter Biden
Speaker 1: needs big bucks someday, you know, once Joe's gone, he
Speaker 1: can still go out and tell the full truth now
Speaker 1: that he's got this pardon. But yeah, he has owned
Speaker 1: Joe Biden for a long time. And think about what
Speaker 1: a scary position that has put to the United States
Speaker 1: of America.
Speaker 2: And Dean and Arvada. You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 6: Welcome, Hey, Dan, Thank you. I wanted to go back
Speaker 6: to uh, you know, we took the house two years ago,
Speaker 6: and you know Comer and Jordan. Jordan's Oh, we're going
Speaker 6: to get the Biden crime family. Oh, but we're not
Speaker 6: gonna We're not gonna impeach Joe because it'll never get
Speaker 6: through the Senate. Well, I wonder why the team to
Speaker 6: go with the Democrats and peached Trump. They knew that
Speaker 6: would get through the Senate, but they they won the
Speaker 6: label Trump and you know, a too impeached president.
Speaker 1: What a great question, Diana, What a great day to
Speaker 1: ask that question. I want to pick that up after
Speaker 1: the break as well, because we covered that. I think
Speaker 1: Comer did fantastic work and he put a lot on
Speaker 1: the table that that I think was powerful evidence a
Speaker 1: very deep seated corruption on the part of Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: So why didn't they take it further? Eight five five
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Speaker 2: We'll come back to that in some.
Speaker 1: Really fun sound of the day as as Dems now
Speaker 1: try to run for and Polus's political play, which is
Speaker 1: truly laughable because in modern political history, in my constitutionally
Speaker 1: protected opinion, there has not been any governor who has
Speaker 1: come close to the kind of obstruction of justice that
Speaker 1: Polus engaged in when, apparently to please Kim Kardashian, he
Speaker 1: spits in the faces of these victims and spits on
Speaker 1: the graves of these people burned to death by this
Speaker 1: homicidal trucker, all to please Kim Kardashian, which means all
Speaker 1: to get some future benefit for Polis. Right, isn't that
Speaker 1: a fair assumption? You want to talk about obstruction of justice?
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I'm not talking about criminally prosecutable. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about morally practically obstruction of justice. It doesn't what
Speaker 1: Polis did in Colorado at least rival what Biden just did.
Speaker 1: And then Polis is out there now trying to make
Speaker 1: his political bones on calling out Biden.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's going to work for him.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 4: And now back to the dan kaplas show.
Speaker 2: The law before a family. I said, the jury decision,
Speaker 2: and I will do that, and.
Speaker 7: I'll not part letting the world know that he will
Speaker 7: not wipe away the decision of twelve of his son's peers.
Speaker 1: Was asked directly, and he has said he wouldn't pardon
Speaker 1: his son if he gets convicted.
Speaker 2: Let's see what happens if he loves Yeah, but I mean,
Speaker 2: but he said it. He's going to get pardoned by
Speaker 2: his dad. There's no question about that. The President has
Speaker 2: ruled out pardoning his son.
Speaker 4: Major commitment from the President accepting the outcome of the
Speaker 4: trial and also pluging not to pardon his son.
Speaker 1: And listen, anybody paying attention is always no, Joe Biden's
Speaker 1: a liar.
Speaker 2: He was born lyon. He'll lie till the day dies.
Speaker 2: He's just a congenital liar.
Speaker 1: But what this does to expose the left, to expose
Speaker 1: the party which held him out to be this paradigm
Speaker 1: of virtue, it is wonderful. It is wonderful the way
Speaker 1: it exposes the Democratic Party. And that is the long
Speaker 1: term benefit in this to the GOP, because to win
Speaker 1: you need the combo pack, right, You need your own appeal,
Speaker 1: but you need people saying, people in doubts saying, wait
Speaker 1: a second, Okay, I may not like the Republicans, but
Speaker 1: they're better than those idiots. And right now Joe Biden
Speaker 1: has gone a long way toward exposing how bad those
Speaker 1: idiots really are. So thank you to Joe Biden for
Speaker 1: that eight fi five for zero five two to five five.
Speaker 1: The number takes da N five seven seven three nine
Speaker 1: A lot more hot sound on that today. A great
Speaker 1: caller in the last segment who said, wait a second, Dan, now,
Speaker 1: Gop they had the house and then you know, you
Speaker 1: had Jim Jordan and James Comer. They did their investigation,
Speaker 1: but there was never an impeachment of Biden. And I
Speaker 1: get the frustration, but listen, my take is that Comer,
Speaker 1: head of House Oversight, did a really good job of
Speaker 1: digging in and fighting hard and getting a lot of
Speaker 1: really good, hard facts that to me absolutely confirmed the
Speaker 1: corruption of Joe Biden. The problem is he never got
Speaker 1: that they considered in the court of public opinion, they
Speaker 1: would need to be able to get people to back impeachment,
Speaker 1: which would be some big old direct obvious you know, say,
Speaker 1: a big old check or a big old wire transfer
Speaker 1: straight to Joe Biden. They got a few little things.
Speaker 1: And listen, here's the point. In a court of law,
Speaker 1: the benefit to Joe Biden didn't have to be cash.
Speaker 1: They could trace into his account. The benefit could be
Speaker 1: financial benefit to his son in a court of law.
Speaker 1: But as we know, the impeachment process is about the
Speaker 1: court of public opinion. I think the Republicans made the
Speaker 1: political calculation they were not going to win an impeachment
Speaker 1: fight there, and I think they were concerned about, you know,
Speaker 1: losing the presidential losing how Senate, etc. If they went
Speaker 1: down that road. So that's that's what I think that
Speaker 1: was all about. My constitutionally protected opinion. Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind that Joe Biden is deeply,
Speaker 1: deeply corrupt and was engaged in deep corruption with with
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is his bag man.
Speaker 2: That's the way I view what's been publicly.
Speaker 1: Reported, and I think the pardon today just confirms what
Speaker 1: I've been saying. Hunter Biden owns Joe Biden because he
Speaker 1: knows where all the bones are buried, and he's owned
Speaker 1: him for a long time. And one other thing I
Speaker 1: want to throw into this before we get back to
Speaker 1: text and calls, and George Brockler joins us at four
Speaker 1: thirty six to talk about a really disturbing story that
Speaker 1: George has done a deep dive on out of Colorado Springs.
Speaker 1: Ym name Mobilatti, the mayor down there who we've had
Speaker 1: on the show and I liked him and enjoyed him.
Speaker 1: You know, there are concerns that he may have lied
Speaker 1: to the FBI, and George has been digging into that,
Speaker 1: and we'll be with us at four thirty six to
Speaker 1: discuss that. But the one thing I wanted to just
Speaker 1: blend into this is, you know, people ask, wait a second,
Speaker 1: why did Joe Biden, who could have governed from the middle.
Speaker 1: He ran on quote normalizing things and on being a
Speaker 1: moderate and all this and that. Why did Joe Biden
Speaker 1: go so crazy far left as soon as he got elected.
Speaker 1: My own personal theory on that is that the left
Speaker 1: owned him. That it was implicit extortion, implicit blackmail. If
Speaker 1: Joe Biden didn't do everything the left wanted him to do,
Speaker 1: the Left could have destroyed him any and every day
Speaker 1: of the week because of his corruption. Because my personal
Speaker 1: belief that he is deeply corrupt and there's a ton
Speaker 1: of evidence out there of it. If all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the left had green lighted that those stories, that line
Speaker 1: of attack, etc. Hell, if the left hadn't essentially conspired
Speaker 1: to prevent most of the media from reporting on the
Speaker 1: Joe Biden Hunter Biden corruption just before election day twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: Biden wouldn't have won a narrow victory then. So, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe the Left was in a position to destroy
Speaker 1: Biden from day one because he is corrupt and they
Speaker 1: could have dropped that hammer anytime. So I think that's
Speaker 1: why he did the bidding of the left from beginning
Speaker 1: and when so far goofy left, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what was going on there. Nothing else makes sense, right,
Speaker 1: that was just insanity to get this nation.
Speaker 2: To the point where, all of a sudden, our top.
Speaker 1: Value, and I put that in quotes, is to worship
Speaker 1: the right of a guy with a penis to walk
Speaker 1: into a girls shower or to go play their sports.
Speaker 2: It's just madness. That's just goofy kind of madness, right.
Speaker 1: So, and that's one of fifty different ways Biden went
Speaker 1: crazy Left. Yeah, I think they had him. I think
Speaker 1: they had him over a barrel hit five five five
Speaker 1: two five five text d An five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 1: You know, another broader point here, and another reason we
Speaker 1: should be celebrating a larger victory today of the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party being exposed as the frauds they are, is this
Speaker 1: attitude of obviously Joe Biden that he's above the law,
Speaker 1: his son's above the law. That extends to many of
Speaker 1: these Democratic office holders. I believe, my personal opinion, including
Speaker 1: Mike Johnston, the mayor of Denver, I think you've had
Speaker 1: and we saw it recently when he's openly talking about
Speaker 1: an insurrection using Denver police to go out and you know,
Speaker 1: oppose the Fed, stop the Feds from enforcing federal law,
Speaker 1: calling for fifty thousand to take to the streets to
Speaker 1: stop the Feds from enforcing federal law. I think you've
Speaker 1: had a whole bunch of these Democrats elected Democrats operating
Speaker 1: under the assumption that the law doesn't apply to them,
Speaker 1: and that the law can be used to destroy their
Speaker 1: political opponents. So they've been operating in this Banana republic
Speaker 1: mindset where they're not constrained by the law, and even
Speaker 1: if their political opponents haven't done anything wrong, they can
Speaker 1: use the law to destroy their political opponents. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about a kind of a broader mindset I believe among
Speaker 1: a lot of these elected Democrats. And I think when
Speaker 1: you have a a Mike Johnston, a mayor of Denver,
Speaker 1: come out and openly promise you know that kind of insurrection,
Speaker 1: I think that just shows that mindset. And so it's
Speaker 1: so great for America to see that that is.
Speaker 2: The mindset of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: Oh, you can't elect Trump, no matter how good things
Speaker 1: were under him, because because the democracy.
Speaker 2: Would be ruined, it's gone.
Speaker 1: And then in fact, obviously it's the Democrats because they
Speaker 1: always accuse you of doing what they're doing. Right, it's
Speaker 1: the Democrats who believe the law doesn't apply to them.
Speaker 1: And yeah, they believe so much in democracy. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: even be able to vote for President Trump in Colorado.
Speaker 1: That's how committed they are to democracy. George Brockler.
Speaker 4: Next you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 7: He said, I am not running again because he understood
Speaker 7: the self restraint was absolutely essential to this country.
Speaker 2: So you don't have a king. He did not pardon
Speaker 2: his son.
Speaker 7: He did not order the Department of Justice to say,
Speaker 7: don't prosecute my son.
Speaker 1: So impressive that Andrew Weisman, one of the acoust right
Speaker 1: that coup they tried to pull on Trump over the
Speaker 1: Russia hoaks. Hey, let's go to the VIP line and
Speaker 1: George Brockler, one of our favorite people, newly elected DA
Speaker 1: in the twenty third George, when do you take office?
Speaker 2: Is that January fifteenth?
Speaker 3: January fourteenth will be the swearing and the official ribbon cunty.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, you don't want to be a day late
Speaker 2: for that, but no, I don't think so. Hey, before
Speaker 2: we get.
Speaker 1: To your column, and by the way, you've written a
Speaker 1: lot of great combs over the years, this may be
Speaker 1: your most important one, not to detegrate any of the others.
Speaker 1: But before I get to that one, our friend Alexa
Speaker 1: text ask George about his announcement on twelve eighteen at
Speaker 1: one pm. Is this when People comes out with its
Speaker 1: Sexiest Man in America edition?
Speaker 2: Is I'm trying to remember the timing of that.
Speaker 3: No, I couldn't even win that in my own household.
Speaker 3: There's no chance of that. I know what she's talking
Speaker 3: about is we're going to do a big presser all
Speaker 3: of Douglas County and Elberton, Lincoln County law Enforcement, me
Speaker 3: and some other folks, and really just an announcement that
Speaker 3: it's almost like a public service announcement, Dan, and that
Speaker 3: is to let people know the beginning January one, if
Speaker 3: folks come to our jurisdiction to victimize us, if they
Speaker 3: come there to steal from us, their expectation ought to
Speaker 3: be to go to jail. And if they expect to
Speaker 3: mistreat our law enforcement or to run from them when
Speaker 3: they try to contact them, their expectation ought to be
Speaker 3: that they're going to be incarcerated. And that we just
Speaker 3: want to send that message loud and clear, so that
Speaker 3: in January and February when things get super real, no
Speaker 3: one can be heard going, my gosh, I had no idea.
Speaker 2: How would I have had?
Speaker 3: Yeah, how would I have?
Speaker 2: How about some billboards?
Speaker 3: Billboards sound great?
Speaker 2: There are.
Speaker 3: Ye, yeah, you're right, And you know what, it's a
Speaker 3: good idea though, to set them up in the surrounding jurisdictions,
Speaker 3: but especially north of us. Maybe we'll get at that.
Speaker 3: That's a good idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just keep your crime here like the billboards
Speaker 1: in Denver, right, Mike Johnston wants you. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of potential there, George. Yeah, wow, Okay, well we'll
Speaker 1: look forward to twelve eighteen. But I got to tell
Speaker 1: you you have had so many great columns over the years,
Speaker 1: this one in the Gazette, Springs Mayor owes public some answers. Now,
Speaker 1: before we ask George to give you an overview of this,
Speaker 1: please read the column in the Gazette because it is
Speaker 1: so well put together and it raises such profound questions
Speaker 1: that I just wish every coloradden would read it.
Speaker 2: But go ahead, if you wouldn't give people the opening
Speaker 2: on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, By the way, it dovetails perfectly with your first segment,
Speaker 3: and which is the idea of a politicized justice system
Speaker 3: and above the law taking place here and above the law.
Speaker 3: So for folks that don't know this, and I get
Speaker 3: why you wouldn't because the major media outlets just haven't
Speaker 3: done what you've done here, and that is to shine
Speaker 3: a light on it outside of the Gazette. And that
Speaker 3: is that. Back in about May of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: there was that heated mayoral campaign between Yemy and Wayne Williams.
Speaker 3: I've met Yemy multiple times, super nice, like you. I'm
Speaker 3: taken with his backstory, but this story calls for something else.
Speaker 3: So back in May of twenty twenty three, all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, there is a huge story that develops where
Speaker 3: there is racism a foot in the campaigns. In fact,
Speaker 3: someone has taken a cross and set fire to it
Speaker 3: in front of one of Yemi's campaign signs with an
Speaker 3: epithet scrawled across that thing. Well, initially it becomes a
Speaker 3: bit of a firestorm, and of course Colorado Springs PD
Speaker 3: and the FBI get involved, and they investigate and lo
Speaker 3: and behold. A long time later, and that is to say,
Speaker 3: last month, I think it was actually October, maybe earlier November,
Speaker 3: the US Attorney's Office comes out and indicts three people
Speaker 3: for pulling off what is in essence a hoax. It's
Speaker 3: not racist, after all. It was a hoax perpetrated by
Speaker 3: a guy who's a ringleader, who's also a black man,
Speaker 3: by the way, a convicted felon. He ultimately gets convicted
Speaker 3: of murder after this. He's been convicted of shooting and
Speaker 3: trying to kill police.
Speaker 8: A horrible guy.
Speaker 3: But during the course of this investigation and the indictment
Speaker 3: is online, people can look for this. There is reference
Speaker 3: to communications that took place between him and the mayor.
Speaker 3: And then lo and behold, the Daily Wire comes out
Speaker 3: about two or three weeks ago with a story that
Speaker 3: says there's an FBI official that came forward furious that
Speaker 3: the US Attorney's office has refused to prosecute the mayor.
Speaker 3: And here's why they would. The mayor sat down with
Speaker 3: the FBI twice, was interviewed and denied having any contact
Speaker 3: with that hoaster slash killer multiple times, said he just
Speaker 3: never had contact with him. And it turns out there
Speaker 3: are multiple contacts that show that he had had contact
Speaker 3: with them.
Speaker 1: Well wait a second, I'm I'm you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: a US attorney or anything.
Speaker 2: But isn't that an open and shutcase.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an open and shutcase. And for folks that
Speaker 3: don't appreciate this, look at the state level, we don't
Speaker 3: have a ulied the cops charge. We have a false
Speaker 3: report in charge where if you pretended that someone committed
Speaker 3: crime that didn't, you could be held accountable for that.
Speaker 3: But when you interview with the police here in Colorado
Speaker 3: for the sheriff and you tell them lies, that isn't
Speaker 3: isn't in and of itself a federal or a crime.
Speaker 3: But for the FED that's different. If you lie to
Speaker 3: a federal agency, it doesn't have to be the FBI.
Speaker 3: If you lie to a federal agency as a prosecutable crime.
Speaker 3: And for those who think how big a deal is it,
Speaker 3: someone needs to reach out to someone named Martha Stewart.
Speaker 3: She went to prison for lying to the FBI. General
Speaker 3: Flynn was convicted of lying to the FBI. This is
Speaker 3: no small thing. This is a big deal for the FBI.
Speaker 3: The story from the Daily Wire says, wait a minute.
Speaker 3: The US Attorney's office said we're not going to bring
Speaker 3: charges because we're not going after the first black mayor
Speaker 3: of Colorado Springs. I don't know if that's true or not,
Speaker 3: but here's what we do know is true. Right now,
Speaker 3: the mayor has had multiple opportunities to directly, not through
Speaker 3: a spokesperson, directly address Colorado Springs and the state of
Speaker 3: Colorado and say what his involvement was, and he refuses
Speaker 3: to do it. Every statement he has given has been
Speaker 3: the sort of demur from having to answer the question.
Speaker 3: And so the question that has to be asked repeatedly
Speaker 3: until he gives an answer is did you lie to
Speaker 3: the FBI?
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's that direct George Brockler, our guest, as
Speaker 1: you've been saying this and again George's fantastic column in
Speaker 1: the Gazette, Springs Mayor Oh's public some answers the Trump
Speaker 1: administration won't there DOJ be in a position to dig
Speaker 1: into this.
Speaker 3: See this is where I think we're going to see
Speaker 3: a huge benefit from the latest election. In addition to
Speaker 3: all the others that you've covered on the show, there's
Speaker 3: going to be an Attorney General named Pam Bondi, and
Speaker 3: Pam Bondy is going to be able to look at
Speaker 3: a whole host of cases that are currently in the
Speaker 3: pipeline and those that could be. And this particular charge
Speaker 3: has a five year statute of limitations to it, and
Speaker 3: so I don't know how long the Senate can drag
Speaker 3: out confirmation. But my guess is there's going to still
Speaker 3: be time on the clock left for Pam Bondi that DOJ,
Speaker 3: including her US attorney out here, to say we want
Speaker 3: to take another look at this and take a fresh approach.
Speaker 3: The problem that creates for the mayor, of course, is
Speaker 3: it's too late for him to get out in front
Speaker 3: of this right like had he rushed right away and said,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I had contact with this guy. I
Speaker 3: had no idea what he was up to. There's no
Speaker 3: way I would have ever participated, but that ship his sale.
Speaker 3: Having refused to talk to the public directly and having
Speaker 3: honestly not have to face to kind of scrutin me
Speaker 3: that you know, a mayor Wi Williams would have had
Speaker 3: to have faced into the same. Certain, right, this guy
Speaker 3: is in a really tough spot right now, but he
Speaker 3: needs to come forward and own it. Otherwise it feels
Speaker 3: like we're getting more politicized prosecution decisions like we just
Speaker 3: saw with Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and since this really does go to like the
Speaker 1: very foundation of America, right which is equal treatment under
Speaker 1: the law, and this growing accurate perception in general that
Speaker 1: that elected Democrats are above the law and you know,
Speaker 1: aren't held to legal accountability, whereas Republicans, even if they
Speaker 1: don't violate the law, may be falsely charged politically motivated charges.
Speaker 1: A story like this right now, no matter where the
Speaker 1: chips fall in the end of story like this goes
Speaker 1: right to the heart of it. But I'm just stunned
Speaker 1: that it isn't dominating media everywhere in Colorado right now,
Speaker 1: I mean, how could that be?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think you know the answer. I
Speaker 3: think I have a suspicion, and that is it's the
Speaker 3: Maybe what that person said from the FBI is right
Speaker 3: that people are afraid to bring up questions to a
Speaker 3: person of color who's found their way into the mayorship
Speaker 3: down there. That's embarrassing. But like, where's his Jenna Griswold
Speaker 3: with Kyle Clark moment right, like where is where's Channel
Speaker 3: seven or four or even Fox thirty one.
Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly what I'm saying, because it wasn't that
Speaker 1: long ago that you would see that happening, what ten
Speaker 1: years ago, maybe that you would see stations that claimed
Speaker 1: to be and were at that time true investigative reporters.
Speaker 1: They would follow if a mayor, if you've had this,
Speaker 1: this story that an FBI agent has come forward and
Speaker 1: said these things about America, they would follow him or
Speaker 1: her everywhere until the questions got answered directly.
Speaker 3: That's absolutely right. The other person we should not let
Speaker 3: off the hook, though, is Attorney General Merrick Garland and
Speaker 3: Acting US Attorney Matt Kirsh. I've known Matt for a
Speaker 3: long time. I've had dealings with him in many, many years.
Speaker 3: He has been the acting US Attorney multiple times. A
Speaker 3: good guy, smart guy, what the hell right like? He
Speaker 3: needs to be confronted, not his spokesperson him with why
Speaker 3: aren't you pursuing this, Merrick Garland, Why aren't you pursuing this?
Speaker 3: This should be a national story about what is going
Speaker 3: on here? How do we send Martha Stewart to prison? Yeah,
Speaker 3: lying to the FBI. This guy doesn't even get a charge,
Speaker 3: not an indictment, nothing, George.
Speaker 1: Can you hang on it with to carry this over
Speaker 1: on the other side? And I want to I want
Speaker 1: to extend this Democrats above the law question to a
Speaker 1: Polis as well, because he's out there now trying to
Speaker 1: get political advantage, you know, tisking Biden over, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously putting Biden in his family above the law, while
Speaker 1: at the same time, Polis, apparently to please Kim Kardashian
Speaker 1: and whatever favors that might bring him in the future,
Speaker 1: spits on the graves of Coloradden's burned to death by
Speaker 1: a homicidal truck or on the roadway.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Never Trumper Joe Walsh. See, I told you so. They're
Speaker 2: all They're all like that.
Speaker 8: So the next time any of us complain about anything
Speaker 8: Trump does this, this pardon is just deflating for those
Speaker 8: of us who have been out there for a few
Speaker 8: years now yelling about what a unique threat Donald Trump is.
Speaker 8: For Joe Biden to do something like it is Trump
Speaker 8: nobody's above the law.
Speaker 2: We've been screaming.
Speaker 8: Well, Joe Biden just made clear his son Hunter is
Speaker 8: above the law. Donald Trump lies every time he opens
Speaker 8: his mouth. We've been screaming. Joe Biden repeatedly lied about this,
Speaker 8: the politicization of the justice system. Donald Trump and his
Speaker 8: people have been screaming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe Wall's former Republican now a never Trumper independent.
Speaker 1: I'll put that in quotes. Just so beautiful to hear that, George,
Speaker 1: you know what a great job Bryan does back there
Speaker 1: as that sound was plain he whispered into my headset,
Speaker 1: Joe Walsh at five thirty six, like I was going
Speaker 1: to forget that. You think I'm playing that by accident.
Speaker 1: You think that's a coincidence, But no, I appreciate Ryan
Speaker 1: looking out for me, and he's right Joe Walsh at
Speaker 1: five thirty.
Speaker 2: Six, he'll join us live.
Speaker 6: Amazing.
Speaker 2: Hey, let me ask you about that. George Brockler kind
Speaker 2: of enough to join us.
Speaker 1: One of the most important columns, in my opinion, that
Speaker 1: he has ever done. It's in the gazette right now.
Speaker 1: Springs mayor Oh's publics. There's the big question, did the
Speaker 1: mayor of Colorado Springs lie to the FBI? Did he
Speaker 1: commit a major felony? One or more major felonies? And
Speaker 1: Daily Wire claims to have an FBI whistleblower saying the
Speaker 1: FBI wanted and prosecuted and that the US attorney would
Speaker 1: not do it for political reasons. So we need to
Speaker 1: get to the truth. So please read George's column. It
Speaker 1: has It is so deeply layered with with facts and
Speaker 1: important information. Quick question, my friend, I'm noticing now that
Speaker 1: among the most prominent, well I wouldn't say prominent, but
Speaker 1: there's a cluster of Democrats who've come out now to
Speaker 1: whale about Biden putting himself an hunter above the law.
Speaker 1: But there's this Colorado cluster now of Bennett and Polists
Speaker 1: and Crow. Do you think that signals that they're worried
Speaker 1: about Colorado they're worried about Colorado for Democrats because you do.
Speaker 1: It's not like you have elected Democrats everywhere are coming
Speaker 1: out and pounding Biden on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's probably true. But I also think
Speaker 3: they recognize the veracity of what Joe Wall shood and
Speaker 3: that clip you played, which is you've just handed the
Speaker 3: Republicans the answer to every time we scream about any
Speaker 3: decision Trump makes regarding pardons or prosecution or whatever. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is big and all the Dems that are out
Speaker 3: there that are trying to pooh pooh this as he
Speaker 3: made the right choice, and it was politicized prosecution. And
Speaker 3: if you read that first paragraph Dan of Biden's comments
Speaker 3: on the pardon and struct the word hunter or my
Speaker 3: son and put in their Trump, it would read exactly
Speaker 3: the same as it pertains to the Manhattan DA's prosecution
Speaker 3: of Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the only way the prosecution of Hunter was politicized
Speaker 1: is that he wasn't charged with the things he should
Speaker 1: have been charged with. I mean, you should have been
Speaker 1: charged with what he was. He was guilty of those,
Speaker 1: but he was guilty of so much more that he
Speaker 1: wasn't charged with him My constitutionally protected opinion. But hey,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. And under the category of
Speaker 1: Democrats who believe they're above the law. Obviously Mike Johnston
Speaker 1: recently calling in my opinion, for an insurrection against the
Speaker 1: Feds if they try to enforce immigration law here. But
Speaker 1: how about Jered Polis And I know we talked about
Speaker 1: it at the time, but now that he's out trying
Speaker 1: to score political points about Biden, you know, treating his
Speaker 1: son as above the law. How about police being above
Speaker 1: the law. When Kim Kardashian whispers sweet nothings in his ear,
Speaker 1: he spits on the grave of these four Colorados burned
Speaker 1: to death on the highway by this homicidal trucker who
Speaker 1: prosecutor out in Jeffko does a great job of convicting Jerry,
Speaker 1: convicts him of these multiple homicide counts. He gets sentenced
Speaker 1: to one hundred and ten years because that's what the
Speaker 1: law requires, and he takes it a police right, took
Speaker 1: it away from the judge. The judge was going to
Speaker 1: reconsider the sentence, and then Polis rides in and just
Speaker 1: arbitrarily says, after talking to Kardashian, no, it's going to
Speaker 1: be ten, which really means five. Doesn't that fit the
Speaker 1: I'm above the law category.
Speaker 3: It certainly fits into politicized prosecution authority. And remember too,
Speaker 3: Jared has yet to confirm that he spoke with Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 2: Oh, he just won't answer the question.
Speaker 3: He won't answer the question. Yeah, he won't answer the question.
Speaker 2: That doesn't confirm it for you.
Speaker 3: Won't answer the question. Well, no, for sure he talked
Speaker 3: to Kim Kardashian. Because if you didn't, you would say,
Speaker 3: there's no chance in the world I talked to a
Speaker 3: person who's famous for being famous about what to do
Speaker 3: with a case here involved in four deck colorads. Of
Speaker 3: course you would say that unless you talk to her.
Speaker 3: So you're absolutely right, but that this process, the rule
Speaker 3: of law, has been so battered and damaged. I got
Speaker 3: the guy who uses that as a punchline more than
Speaker 3: any other is still wiser our attorney general. He waited
Speaker 3: until Michael Bennett came out a couple hours ago and said, hey,
Speaker 3: I think what Biden did was wrong, and jumped on
Speaker 3: top of him said hey what he said. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: I thought, leadership, where were you last night? To say
Speaker 3: this is an upfront to the rule of law right.
Speaker 1: No, well said George, and grateful for the time today,
Speaker 1: my friend, and hopefully everybody reads your column.
Speaker 2: It's really important and it's deep with facts and logic.
Speaker 1: Springs Merrow's public some answers that and the Gazette thank you, George,
Speaker 1: have a great one you get, thank you, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe Walsh never Trumper will join us. At five thirty six.
Speaker 1: He's outraged and that's a great thing. You're on the
Speaker 1: Dan Kapla Show.