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Everything's there. I want to welcome everyone back to the

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Peaking Yona Show. Aaron's just right back here, like you know,

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like a good co host. Hey, what's happening here?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Man? Happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Well, what we talked about last time, Yes, I got

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a couple of reactions from that. That was that was interesting.

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Also going on Tim Kelly Short, Tim Kelly Show, Our

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Interesting Times. Shortly after that we talked a little more

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about that. But you like, like Tim, Yeah, he's cool

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as Helena. You know, I'm fascinated by coninc mostly because

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con inc is, you know, the enemy. But when the

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enemy starts doing things that seem you know, that that

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seem out of place and seem like something that they

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wouldn't do, I take note of it, and I'd take

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an interest in it. Now that it's giving me any

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hope or anything. I just think it's real interesting and

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it's like a mirror of what we're seeing in uh

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of what we've been seeing for a while now.

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Speaker 2: There's certainly some glimmers of hope, certainly some opportunities, certainly

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some risks.

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Speaker 1: What we do know is is that these are people

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who don't they're not operating at our best interest or

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operating in other people's best they're operating in their own

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best interests, the best interests of their donors, the best

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interests of their you know, their constituents wherever they are.

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And you know, if if, if change does happen and

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it happens to benefit us in some way, well good, Yeah,

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I won't counter signal. Uh, counter signal too bad. If

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you know, if someone's looking to take down you know,

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or at least put a message out there that I

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think is a message, it needs to be heard. So

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you want to you want me to play this video

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from Evan Roberts of the Heritage Foundation that I mean conspicuously.

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I mean, I mean it is a coincidental that it

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happened right after Tucker Carlson interviewed Nick Flansas.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean that interview enraged a lot of people,

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and people that most likely didn't even watch it, didn't

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need to watch it. And I remember for the week

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prior to that, there were rumblings that it was going

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to happen, and people were already working themselves up into

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a frenzy over it.

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Speaker 1: M yep, all right, let's play this. This is interesting.

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Play it's our two minutes and thirty nine seconds. I'll

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just play it, play it all the way through. If

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Speaker 3: I'll have more to say on this in the coming days,

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but today I want to be clear about one thing.

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Christians can critique the state of Israel without being anti Semitic,

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and of course anti Semitism should be condemned. My loyalty

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as a Christian and as an American is to christ

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first and to America always. When it serves the interests

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to the United States to cooperate with Israel and other allies,

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we should do so with partnerships on security, intelligence, and technology.

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But when it doesn't, Conservatives should feel no obligation to

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reflexively support any foreign government, no matter how loud the

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pressure becomes from the globalist class or from their mouthpieces

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in Washington. The Heritage Foundation didn't become the intellectual backbone

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of the conservative movement by canceling our own people or

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policing the consciences of Christians, and we won't start doing

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that now. We don't take direction from comments on x

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though we are grateful for the robust free speech debate.

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we are inherently grateful for their support, and we're adding

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more every day. This is the robust debate we invite

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American public. We will always defend truth, we will always

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defend America, and we will always defend our friends against

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the slander of bad actors who serve someone else's agenda.

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That includes Tucker Carlson, who remains and as I have

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said before, always will be a close friend of the

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Heritage Foundation. The venomous coalition attacking him or sowing division

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their attempt to cancel him will fail. Most importantly, the

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American people expect us to be focusing on our political

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adversaries on the left, not attacking our friends on the right.

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challenge those ideas and debate. And we have seen success

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in this approach as we continue to dismantle the vile

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ideas of the left. As my friend Vice President Vance

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any country coming before the interest of American citizens, and

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it is important for all of us, assuming we are

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American citis, to put the interest of our own country first.

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Speaker 1: All right, So was there any one word? There's like

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one word in there that really stood out to me?

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Do you know do you have any idea what word

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Speaker 2: Uh? When he's talking about prioritizing the interests of America first.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's one. No, there's another, a single word, he

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says before that, Now, do tell he uses the word globalists.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, and your audience might know that globalist is a

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is a substitute for another word.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the thing, is exactly you know,

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he says, Oh, we have boor Anti Simmons's and area,

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I mean anti said, I don't. I hate the term

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anti Semitism. I prefer Jewish aware, no Judeo aware.

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Speaker 2: You know. So the.

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Speaker 1: Well you you were talking about the comments, So apparently

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Nick got the got the comment first comment in here.

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He says, I don't know what exactly you a bore

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about my views, but we can all agree that free

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speech christ in America FIRS should be the pillars of

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our movement. Thank you for your courage and standing up

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rope and discourse and defending Tucker against the israel first

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woke right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he had to be a little bit bitchy, but overall, uh,

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very positive. Yeah that can't help himself and being just

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a little bit bitchy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Briggs says, I'm well, I'm amazed, amazed and

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quite cheered. God bless Roberts. The shrieking class won't take

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this quietly. Stephen Wolfe says Patriot. Avid Petrudi says, when

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we disagree with someone's thoughts and opinions, we challenged those

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ideas and debate. It's shocking how many people on the

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right have forgotten this. Sandra McDonald, my respect for you

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just shot through the roof dis in it media. I

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think this is Michael Heiss actually, well said, meltdown from

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neo cons in coming. There's a mel village crazy lady.

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It's one of the greatest at names on Twitter. Village

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crazy lady. This is a great statement. Thanks for addressing this,

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Clint Russell, good for you. Thank you, our buddy. Brandon

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Harnish patriot, So what do you what do you take

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away from this, uh, you know, defending defending Tucker and

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it coming from Heritage.

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Speaker 2: I was a little bit taken aback, you know, knowing

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what I know about Heritage Project twenty twenty five and

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their relationship there recently strained relationship with Tucker, if I'm

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not mistaken, they went through and kind of washed their

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sight of him fairly recently. You know, they went in

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and kind of removed him from a lot of mentions,

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a lot of credits.

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Speaker 1: It makes you wonder, you know, if Kevin Roberts had

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the had the sanction of Heritage to do this.

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Speaker 2: It does it It begs the question, what's going on

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in the office. Is there a firefight right now? Is there?

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You know, are we going to get some leak gcs

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from them?

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Speaker 1: Well, I've yeah, I was told at the beginning of

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last year that there were are a lot of divisions

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in Heritage, especially in the boardroom.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: People wanted Project twenty twenty five to go through. Some

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people were saying it, you know, it went too far.

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People were saying it didn't go far enough. You know,

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there was a lot of a lot of talk, you know,

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and Project twenty twenty five was made. You know, what

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was part of you know, I'm sure people remember last year,

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maybe they don't. Project twenty twenty five was the boogeyman

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for the left anytime they wanted to bring something up

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during the campaign. It was Project twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: But there was a there was a part of Project

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twenty twenty five that was kind of at least it

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gave me concern. It was Project Esther combating anti Semitism

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and trying to trying to treat it as like a

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national security threat. And you know, the the former Libertarian

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and US always says like, you know, how is this

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going to affect me? Knowing what I've posted on my timeline,

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on you know, higher education, pro Palestine activism, you know,

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all all all these institutions and people that you know,

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if you need to stick the FBI on him, like,

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I don't think we have very much to say on it.

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Speaker 1: No, you know, and it's it really goes to show

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that if you have Project Ester there and Tucker has

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become such a pariah. You know why this video was

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put out because Tucker is just not stopping. I mean,

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other day was let's see if I can find it.

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he said something recently that was Douglas McGregor said something

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some when it posted it up and in my supporter chat,

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but it was basically like, let me see it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, to paraphrase him. In the Fuentes interview, he said,

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straight up he despises Christian Zionists. He thinks that they're heretics,

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and he'd basically like to see them ejected from you know,

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ejected from the discourse, which right, you know, I can't

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help but really respect him for saying that in front

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of you know, his his entire audience was I'm sure

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is a mix of a lot of different fass still here.

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Speaker 1: Let me, uh, let me play this. This is he

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was with colonel Colonel McGregor, and this is a short

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clip from his interview with Colonel McGregor. Who who is

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naming them? I mean, it's I mean, it's just openly

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and yeah, hold on, let me see. Yeah, let me

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Speaker 4: If you haven't heard this, why don't any politicians in

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the Congress put the open air drug market in Philadelphia

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above the threat of hamas well?

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Speaker 5: I think you have an answer of sorts, and it comes,

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interestingly enough, from missus Muschado. She's the lady that just

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won the Nobel Peace Prize and she's from Venezuela. And

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she said, if we're liberated by the US Armed Forces

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and they remove Maduro, our first act will be to

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move the Venezuelan embassy to Jerusalem.

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Speaker 4: What does that have to do with I'm completely confused,

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Speaker 5: Hit on something very important. She's figured out where the

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power lies, and she's playing to the audience that makes

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the decisions. And I think we can pretty much conclude

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that we're ruled now by a small group of extraordinarily

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wealthy people. Billionaire oligarchs. Those are the terms they use

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in Eastern Europe, in places like Ukraine. Yeah, I think

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they're in George. I think they're calling the shots.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to be a genius to read

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between those lines. And that's that's kind of what Tucker.

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Tucker's function is. He has a lot of normies that

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really like him still, and even to the most boomer

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it just seems like, yeah, if Heritage

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wanted to disconnect from Tucker completely, that video would have

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sounded a lot different. Mm hm, you know that. I

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mean it's easy. You know, Nick is a Nick is

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a boogeyman that anybody you can use to dismiss anyone

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who's ever talked to him, although I mean basically everybody's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's starting to moderate, he's starting to realize that, uh,

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you know, they're his His whole thing is like, all right,

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they put these ten second clips of him on TikTok, which, uh,

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because of all kinds of reaction videos and all kinds

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of outrage from the usual you know, left or center

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media outlets, and he's just a foil for why we

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can't have any type of discourse. And uh, he I

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that and is desperately trying to moderate and we'll see,

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we'll see where that goes.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's like I've been trying to tell

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people lately. Yeah, the the part of the right, you

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know that that knows the JQ and is very important.

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They're literally they literally act like libertarians in that they

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think that the only way that any of this gets

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solved is they have to wake everyone.

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Speaker 2: Up by smashing them in the face with a hammer.

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You are not allowed to be a normy. There is

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no transition period like here is a nine thousand point

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post about you know, naming them and going through the

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entire higher history of the ethno religion of Judaism, and

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every single time that you know, every single time, well

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going through literally every single time.

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Speaker 1: I remember this, this plan by the Mesas Caucus and

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the Libertarian to take over the Libertarian Party run Dave

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Smith as president because he delivers the message very well,

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and he's a good debater and you know, very presentable,

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so that you know, they could redo the Ron Paul moment.

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They need to wake people up, they need to know

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you if we just deliver the message perfectly, everybody will

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want to become a libertarian. And that's the same thing

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on our side. If you just deliver the message perfectly,

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everybody will become woke to the JQ and become a radical.

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And that's literally impossible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nope, everybody's different the way you reach I mean,

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know individuals in real life. I've the most success I've

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My coworkers are like blue collar Catholics. How do I

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wake them up to Hey, you know what it's it's

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your Your unconditional support for Israel is neither blue collar,

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nor Catholic.

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Speaker 1: Or American.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you just have to know your audience and

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know what buttons to push to kind of at least

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get them to think. And I've I don't know, I

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think I've made a good amount of progress in my

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very limited sphere. My contribution. There's a tiny droplet of

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water in a giant bucket.

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Speaker 1: And if you just do what you can to help

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your you help people realize exactly how the world works,

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they can better navigate it so they don't have to

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become they don't have to become radicals in order to

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be you know, in order for your for your goals

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to be achieved.

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Speaker 2: No, if I can just get them to be apathetic,

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that's progress.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or to you know, or if you if they

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understand exactly how the world works, they can better navigate

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it and that could be to their benefit. Yeah. So

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there's this, there's this other conservative thing. I've found that.

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This is from the American Conservative magazine And this was

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dropped on the same day that Kevin Roberts dropped that video.

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And it says title of it says, and this is

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by Daniel bogus Law. FBI use a secret threat category

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for Israeli criminals operating in the US. Did you know

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that there were Israeli criminals operating in the US?

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Speaker 2: I had an idea. I had a vague idea.

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Speaker 1: The FBI's growing listed domestic threats has mutated in recent

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years to include every conceivable affiliation of Americans across the

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political spectrum, right wing violent extremists, left wing violent extremists,

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black identity extremists, and animal rights extremists. The current administration

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has even added nihilistic violent extremists those who believe in nothing,

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believe in nothing, Lebowski, we believe in nothing to the

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laundry list, the Biden administration, for its part, aided in

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this exercise by vastly overstating the threat posed by Trump

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aligned conservatives in the waken Jen seven. But neither Democrat

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nor Republican administrations has ever grand standard about another significant

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group threat that the FBI secretly monitors on US soil,

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Israeli based organized crimes indicates or IBox that sounds serious,

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Like if you call it a syndicate that I assume

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they have some power.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would assume too. I mean, knowing, knowing the

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little bit of history I know about organized crime.

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Speaker 1: You mean that it's that it's not Italian.

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Speaker 2: Yes, very little to do with the Irish and Italian mafia.

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Speaker 1: Leaked FBI records and court filings detailed widespread money laundering,

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taxpayer theft, and drug smuggling. Enterprises operate drug smuggling. That's

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isn't that beneath them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought that was more Chinese.

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Speaker 1: Operated in the US by Israeli citizens connected or belonging

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to Israeli crime groups. Despite the trickle of prosecutions over

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the past twenty five years, the FBI has never publicly

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disclosed the fact that it has designated resources allocated to

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investigating Israeli crime organizations. Twenty twenty FBI intelligence report from

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the Blue Leaks hack conducted by the hacker group Anonymous

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and archive by the nonprofit Dedas Secrets describes Eyebox operating

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in Nevada and Florida embezzling money from the PPP from

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PPP loans Nevada and Florida. I know you're shocked, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like did they change their name to Israeli? Like?

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Speaker 1: Eyebox have defrauded US government relief programs and manipulated tax documents.

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It's at least twenty to fifteen or reduced tax liability

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and conceal money laundering activities, as well as have access

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to companies and agents which are necessary to process PPP

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loan applications. The report found.

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Speaker 2: This next part is absolutely insane.

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Speaker 1: The report also lists instances of eyebox can hitting both

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disaster relief and tax fraud, and notes that IBox are

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involved in money laundering, extortion, illegal gambling, fraud, and narcotics

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trafficking in Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Miami, and New York.

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According to FBI investigations, No no.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, it's the next. It's the next part

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talking about the visa loopholes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. As far back as two thousand and nine, leaked

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State Department cables obtained by WikiLeaks detailed one of the

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reasons why criminals belonging to are associated with Israeli crime

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families and syndicates have been able to operate inside America

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with ease. The State Department is not authorized to block

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their visas.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you think Marco Rubio is going to close that loophole?

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Speaker 1: The cables warned the Israeli mafia taking on a greater

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role in the American trie of ecstasy, and the loophole

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which prevents US embassies from automatically denying Israeli crime figures

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travel documents.

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Speaker 2: Oh Man, that through me.

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Speaker 1: While the State Department has formalized powers in its Foreign

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Affairs Manual to restrict visas from Chinese triads, Japanese Yakusa,

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the Italian Mafia, the Hell's Angels, Banker Gang Outlaws, Bendido's Mongols,

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and two dozen Latin American gangs, including Trend de Aragua,

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Israeli organized crime groups remain absent. More than a decade

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after the State Department cable first warned of the Israeli

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mafia loophole. Ah, I will remind people the reason we're

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reading this is I would this would have never if

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this would have been put out by like, you know,

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occidental observer or something like that, I probably would have

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just read this and forgot about it. The fact that

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is put out by the American Conservative on the same

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day that Tucker, you know that Kevin Roberts from Heritage

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puts out that little message. I mean, who the hell

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would have thought?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the visa exemptions just destroyed me. Like I

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don't know whether to laugh or cry or get angry,

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but like an exemption car vote for known criminal like

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organized crime members for every country, every group in the

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world except this one.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you take into consideration, you know, one of

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their people got arrest they caught up in a sting

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in Las Vegas trying to solicit a fourteen or fifteen

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year old, and then the the state's attorney, acting state's

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attorney appointed by Trump just let him go.

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Speaker 2: I mean this is just yeah, law enforcement was instructed

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to let him go, right, to not pursue correct, Yeah,

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all right, I just wanted to make sure I didn't

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get that wrong.

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Speaker 1: So going on, given the volume of trade, travel and

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trade between the United States and Israel, it is not

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surprising that israel OC organized crime has also gained a

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foothold in America. When Cable reads, the Consular Section has

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revoked several visas for those who have been convicted of

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crimes in Israel, but many organized crime figures have no

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prior criminal convictions and carrying no visa in eligibilities. As

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a result, many hold valid non immigrant visas to the

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United States and have traveled freely and attempted to travel

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for a variety of purposes. A former FBI special agent

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who worked on investigations involving IBox told The American Conservative quote,

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there is real Israeli organized crime in this country, and

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there's a formalized FBI program for investigating these groups, adding

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that they look for the success of other criminals and

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then try to build a better model on those. He

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also said, quote, once you move beyond that and your

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target becomes more sophisticated, they are presumed to be intelligence

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operatives and operatives of the Israeli government, and then that

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gets moved high side in the National Security Division. Yeah, yep,

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a sentence by the way, Oh yeah, I mean it's

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Just who the ones who researched this and put it

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out is the surprising part. But the information is still

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good for people to have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: A sentencing letter for an international narcotic smuggling case prosecuted

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in the Southern District of New York hints at this reality,

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referencing the eye box designation and connection to an international

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ecstasy smuggling conspiracy. Quote the defendant engagement internationally laundering narcotics

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proceeds as part of an Israeli based organized crime syndicate.

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In addition to his demonstrated ability to launder drug money

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across borders, he also possessed ample global connections in the

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narcotics trade and access to narcotics themselves. That sounds like

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anti semitism.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like we need to send fifteen billion

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dollars more. Can we just ad their aid package.

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Speaker 1: A second former FBI agent pointed to the recent West

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Coast indictment of quote a suspected high level member of

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an Israeli transnational organized crime group running an illegal poker

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game in Hollywood. Quote. It's no secret that politics inevitably

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shaped enforcement priorities, the agent said, explaining why the bureau

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has never highlighted its eebox enforcement quote that has not

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been a popular thing to wave around in the press,

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which is why you see a steady stream of prosecution

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as related to Israeli crime figures without the same discussion

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of organization you might have with cartels or gangs. So

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basically no rite.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I mean, let's let's say that the FBI

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as as as an institution exists in a vacuum and

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is not captured by any any interests, any ethno religious interest.

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What do we do with this? Like, I mean, is

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there is there any chance that like we can we

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can close this loophole? I mean, I know the American

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Conservative isn't like, isn't a giant think tank or anything,

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but this seems like a slam dunk, especially now.

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Speaker 1: It's if there let me just let me act like

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a normy conservative or enormy maga maga guy. Well, if

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they're not going to go after Epstein, why would they? Yeah? Yeah, true,

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All right, there's only two more paragraphs here. So politically

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unpopular as criticism of illegal activities by israelis that repeated

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espionage efforts have been swept under the rug or at

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the very least restricted from public view. In twenty nineteen,

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Politico reported that intelligence officials suspected Israel was behind the

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placement of cell phone surveillance devices planted around the White

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House and in other locations in Washington, d C. According

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to the report, the Israelis were not sanctioned with a

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formal reprimand from the State Department.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, and we just need to do

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something about these Kataris.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember who it was. It was a brit

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It was like I remember if it was Starmer or

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Boris Johnson, who like one of them like said that

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they Benjamin at Yahou was over their house and they

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caught Benjamin at Yahoo trying to leave something in their bathroom.

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Speaker 2: They can't help themselves.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's every single time. Oh God, last paragraph.

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Another potential reason for the lack of visibility of Eyebox

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is the changing face of Israeli politics and the increasing

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proximity of organized crime figures to the ruling Lakud party.

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Ten Lakut officials chose to spend the Jewish holiday of

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Sakat with convicted mobster Rafi hiam kodieshim this year. In

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the past, members of Israel's mafia. Families elected to parliament

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on the Likud line have attempted to use their positions

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to quash investigations in organized crime. The FBI did not

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respond to the American Conservatives request for comment about the

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current status of the bureau's eyebox investigation. I guess Cash

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Battel was too busy trying to get get someone's email

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and Bob's and regime. Yeah, yep, I mean this is

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but you know, I mean, all right, there's a lot

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in here that a lot of people wouldn't know and everything.

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But I mean the American Conservative why would they put

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this out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's a good sign. Yeah, you know,

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we're in a tough on crime phase right now, and

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I guess you could frame it as that, but you know,

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you're still going to be investigated for antisemitism.

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Speaker 1: Here I got another one for you. Here we go.

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This is from RT so you know, we know it's

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not real. This is from yesterday. US lawmaker accused of

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sex tape blackmail. Dalia Atar became the first Orthodox Jewish

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woman to serve in the Maryland Senate. This January. US

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federal officials have charged a Maryland Democratic State senator with

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extortion for allegedly masterminding a blackmail scheme involving secretly filmed

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explicit videos. According to an indictment unsealed on Thursday, Dalia Atar,

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who was first elected to the Maryland House of Delegates

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in twenty eighteen and was re elected in twenty twenty two,

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became the first Orthodox Jewish woman to serve in the

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Maryland State Senate. Earlier this year, court documents alleged that

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Atar devised a plan to stop a former employee from

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speaking out against her twenty twenty two real election shouldn't

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have been reelection bit. Prosecutors say she conspired with her brother,

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Joseph Attar, and Baltimore police officer Common Finkelstein, who had

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worked on her campaign.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, first of all, would.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, It's just there's no conspiratory I mean, how

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can art be this anti semitic? I thought that Putin

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was owned by the Jews. It actually says that prosecutors

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say she conspired with her brother and Finkelstein, who had

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worked on our campaign. I mean, that's anti Semitism.

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Speaker 2: They they when they're gaming this out, I have to

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wonder if they ever consider, like the implications of what

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happens if we get caught. How is this going to

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make us look like? For for how for how much

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in group preference they have? Like do they consider the

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consequences to their reputation as a whole when they get

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caught for shit like this, Like it's it's just insane

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to me?

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Speaker 1: Or well here, I mean this is actually pretty promising.

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I mean people magazine picked it up, the Baltimore Banter

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or the Washington Post, so it's not like it's being hidden,

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you know, you know, it's not like the only place

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you can read about it is in RT. But do

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they care? I mean, though they don't care. There used

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to be. They're used to being able to get away

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with doing whatever they want. Look at the article we

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just read.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the contingency is all right where this is not

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going to be in any media outlet that anybody cares about,

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and if it is, then they're anti Samis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's as Starting in twenty twenty, they work

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to threaten the ex employee into silence using covertly taken

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videos of her in bed with a married man. The

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court documents alleged according to WhatsApp message is cited in

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the case, Atar said she wanted the ex consultant to

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be a non issue in my mind, that she was

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only doing this for her mental health. Yes quote two

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years later, she is still looking to screw me badly.

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Even more reason why the ladies should be afraid to

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come out with anything at any point. Atar was cited

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as saying the group allegedly conspired to follow the ex

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consultants' movements using a tracker on her loaned car, and

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to secure intimate videos intimate videos of her with her

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lover by installing cameras disguised as smoke detectors. The documents

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say the victim was staying in an apartment owned by

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Finkelstein's family at the time. So their landlords, are you

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fucking I'm kidding me.

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Speaker 2: I can't, I can't.

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Speaker 1: The truth is so so antisemitic, it's ridiculous. The indictment

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says that Joseph Atar, the brother, later approached the ex

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consultant's lover to threaten them with the release of a

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video and demanded she stay out of this election. All

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three have been charged with extortion, whire it tapping in

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other offenses, and face a sentence of at least twenty

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years if convicted on all accounts. Do you want to

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take a bet as to whether whether any of them

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do one day in jail. I'm talking about like after sentencing.

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I'm sure they have spent a little bit more jon jail.

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Speaker 2: What color is the judge?

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Speaker 1: Well, in this case, some weird kind of Turkish kasari.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, sorry, oh god, yeah, I just hey, they're

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they're probably gonna get off. And uh, I just for

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how prolific h anti Semitism alarmism is right now, they

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have to have some better contingency of what happens if

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we get caught.

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Speaker 1: Ah, I don't know, man, I mean, what's the one

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word they said? What was? What did they say in here?

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There was something in here that made me think that,

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like this was intern They worked to threaten the lay

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using covert court documents, according to alleged Oh yeah, according

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to alleged WhatsApp messages cited in the case, Using WhatsApp

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makes me in the United States makes me think they

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were community kading when people overseas. The only time I

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ever use WhatsApp is to is to communicate with people overseas.

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I used signal for for everything here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is that is a good point,

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Like why, Yeah, that's the only reason why you have

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it WhatsApp? When my brother went to India and ended

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up getting danky fever and almost dying, Like, that's the

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only reason why I got what's app?

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Speaker 1: Did he get a chance to at least like take

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one dump in the street? I mean, like when in

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a room? Right?

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Speaker 2: He got sick, like within an hour of being in India.

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He had the most stereotypical India trip ever. He actually

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went there like for for a mission. And yeah, he

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got sick as soon as he landed and then within

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a week got danky fever. Uh, transported to the US consulate.

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They flew him to Hawaii. Hawaii couldn't do any thing

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for him, so they flew him to California and like

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in the meantime, he's just dying.

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Speaker 1: Dad, Why would did why did he go to India?

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Speaker 2: He my my brother has lived like twelve lives. He's

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twenty six years old, and he's been all around the world.

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He has he's actually in Singapore right now. You know.

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He complains about how like I'll never afford a house,

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I'll never be able to like find like a normal

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woman and live the American dream like like every zoomer

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and then like he's just like, I'm going to go

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to Europe for like a month and just like live

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in hostels. He knows, he knows people all around the world.

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But he went to India for I think like a

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because he just wanted to go and see it. This

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was This was a couple of years ago, so before

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India was what we know it to be. Now we

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kind of knew what it always was, but uh now

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we definitely know. But yeah, so he went there just

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like with a mission, like a Christian missionary group and

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uh yeah, it was like his ticket to just go there. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So, I guess we'll do this last one. This is uh,

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this one actually came out today and you sent me

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this one, so you can comment on this one. While

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you thought this one was so important, I'll start reading.

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So Fyodor Fyodor, Fyodor, Look Lukaya luk luke kyanoff, Yeah, Lukianoff.

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As the US and China collide, other civilizations for prepare,

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prepare their own course. The era of polite globalization is

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over and civilian civilizations are back. So I think we're

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gonna have some Aaron wants to talk about serious stuff here, guys,

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Everybody strap in. The well worn business phrase push and

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pull neatly captures the essence of today's US China relations.

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What once looked like a competitive partnership has hardened into

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a contest of wills, power, and identity, one that will

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shape the global order for years to come. For much

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of the late twentieth century, in the first decade of

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the twenty first, the dominant Western assumption was that the

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world was moving toward a liberal universal order. Economic interdependence,

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global markets, and a single rules set were supposed to

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smooth away historical grievances and cultural differences. In that vision,

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civilizational identities, the deep structure, the deep structures of tradition, culture,

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and worldview were treated almost as relics. That era is over.

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The liberal order began to crack long before Donald Trump

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entered the White House, but his arrival made the rupture

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visible and irreversible. As the old framework faltered, the pendulum

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swung back toward identity, difference and civilization civilizational self assays.

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The question now is not whether this Trump this shift

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is happening, it clearly is, but how the world will

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function within it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Anything Now, I think It's a pretty good encapsulation of

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what the last forty years was like. We were just

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rocketing towards this ideal of I mean, I'll see a

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global government that was supposed to make everything, you know,

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you'll own nothing and like it. And that was never

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meant to be. And I don't think I think regardless

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of whether Trump came about or not, it was destined

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to fracture. It just so happened that the United States,

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that US politics were the catalyst.

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Speaker 1: And without even really trying, Trump basically helped move that along,

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maybe sped round it a little bit. You know. Yeah,

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it's that whole thing about you know, Trump demands not important,

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it's what he represents. I mean, I know that that's

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a most a cliche at this point, but I think

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there is a lot of truth behind it. So the

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next section is titled the Trump Effect. George W. Bush

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once promised compassionate conservatism. Barack Obama framed power and eloquent

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multilateral terms. Trump dispensed with such packaging. In less than

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a year in office, he changed not only American diplomacy,

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but global expectations. The global expectation surrounding it. Washington, under

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Trump rediscovered a bluntness that previous generations tried to bury

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under layers of institutional polish. Part of this is personal theater,

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his brusqueness, his disregard for protocol, and his habit of

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airing grievances and demands in public. His supporters view this

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as refreshing authenticity, a break from the professionalized hypocrisy of

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the establishment. His critics call it dangerous. Either way, it

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has been effective in forcing other players to adjust. Yeah, yeah,

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I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's actually a little bit later in this article, but

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the way he describes just the mode of our foreign

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policy and our diplomacy as like just very polite layers

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under just extremely complicated bureaucracy, Like I think that perfectly

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encapsulates like the Obama era, and I could never really

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articulate to normies, Like, you know, why was Obama bad?

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He seemed like such a nice guy. He was such

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an eloquent speaker, and like that's actually the problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you can. It's easy to hide behind form

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and yeah, form, and I guess I don't know a

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nice brown suit.

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Speaker 2: His only scandal.

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Speaker 1: Form dictates substance peace through strength, long a core American

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formula now translates into course of bargaining, tariff threats, open blackmail,

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and public humiliation of rivals and allies alike. The administration

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has embraced this as a governing philosophy. Diplomacy is a battlefield,

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hesitation is weakness, and courtesy is optional.

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Speaker 2: Base.

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Speaker 1: In a cultural sense, Trump resurrects a caricature Europeans once

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drew of Americans, brash, self assured, contemptuous of nuance, Convinced

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that power is the most honest argument, the farmer republic

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instincts that nineteenth century observers attributed to America confidence of

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one's rightness suspicion of subtlety are back on display. Trump

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is proud of this, and whether one likes it or not,

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he remains leader of the most powerful country on earth.

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Everyone must factor that reality into their strategies. There is

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a paradox here. Let me finish this part of this section.

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There is a paradox here. Trump's bluntness, while abrasive, can

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be easier to deal with than Washington's more polished double speak.

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As President of Vladimir Putin has implied, it is simpler

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to negotiate with someone who states his demands plainly than

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with a smiling technocrat who buries intent under abstractions. But

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bluntness without proportion is dangerous, and Trump often treats diplomacy

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as if it were television stage, where escalation is drama

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rather than consequence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that paragraph you now. For the last forty years,

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or or at least prior to Trump, I mean, Washington's

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more polished double speak. It's simpler to negotiate with someone

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who states his demands plainly then with a smiling technocrat

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who buries intent under abstractions. That's what we've had our

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entire lives. That's been our foreign policy. Everything needs to

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be layered in like this flowery language can stilly language,

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but you know, we'll also drone strike you.

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Speaker 1: I think that's why Trump likes someone like Lindsay Graham.

715
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Lindsay Graham comes right out and just says shit, yeah,

716
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well yeah, I don't like I don't like the homo.

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Speaker 2: But it's gonna say, like take your pants off, boy,

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direct to the point.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean about bombing other countries and just I

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mean just insane, a different civilization. The most revealing contrast

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to the style is China. In raw capacity, Beijing has

722
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either reached parity with Washington or will soon do so.

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That makes its America, That makes it America's primary geopolitical rival,

724
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a structural fact that transcends personalities. Culturally, the two powers

725
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cannot be more different. Where Trump prizes dominance and spectacle,

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Beijing values continuity, discipline, pat face saving, compromise, and a

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belief in gradual managed evolution, whereas we believe more in

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gradual managed decline. China entered the global system expecting mutual

729
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benefit and predictable rules. It did not expect and doesn't

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particularly like, the American turn toward open intimidation during Trump's

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first term. Chinese officials hope this was a passing phase.

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Trump's second term disabuse them. The pressure is heavier, the

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confidence greater, and the provocations more deliberate. China has responded

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in kind, abandoning its previously understated posture for sharper language

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and reciprocal signaling. Beijing is learning to answer bluntness with bluntness,

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though it does so reluctantly. It is still cultural and

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culturally uncomfortable with open confrontation. Yet the leadership understands that

738
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the era of polite strategic ambiguity is gone. This phase

739
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coercion versus resolved threat versus counter threat is no temporary disruption.

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It's the new normal, push pull and the new order.

741
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The future of US China relations will follow a rhythm

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familiar to business negotiators. Pressure, pause, partial deal, break down, repeat.

743
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Each side will test how much harm it can threaten

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without tipping into disaster. Washington will push first, that is

745
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Trump's instinct. Beijing will push back, no longer willing to

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absorb blows silently. This is not a new Cold War.

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It is something more fluid and unpredictable. Today's world is

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not bipolar. It is a system in which other major actors,

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from Russia and India to regional coalitions in the Middle East,

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Eurasia and Latin America will assert themselves. But the central

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access of what God.

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Speaker 2: I disagree with him here. I think that all of

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those regions he just mentioned are going to come under

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the auspices of either usagemony or Chinese emy, and that's

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going to be the great power competition.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of I mean saying that, I

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mean I would like Russia to be our friend, yeah,

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but I mean that doesn't seem to be, you know,

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with the people who you know, with with with all

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the best ethnic Ukrainians in the in our government.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the h I think the best we can hope

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for is that Russia is simply just not We're not antagonistic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be best.

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Speaker 2: You know, historically I don't think like and correct me

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if I'm wrong, but I don't think the US and

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Russia have historically been friends per se, but certainly not in.

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Speaker 1: Definitely been friendly at times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, thanks for Alaska.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I I was recording an episode

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this afternoon and we were talking about, you know, like

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the future of Europe, and we basically said, if the

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future of Europe is not going to be Islam, then

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Europe is looking at two things to solve that problem.

774
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One is going to be a race war. Yeah, and

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two they're going they're going to have to have Dayton

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with Russia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, day Tent with Russia. I mean there, but you

778
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still think they're going to be a pan European super state, right, yeah,

779
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all right, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Think well, I mean who Russia.

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Speaker 2: No, no, Europe.

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Speaker 1: I yeah, well, I mean if Russia falls, if they

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fall under the influence of Russia, then I think it'll

784
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be very much like a very watered down version of

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what East Germany was like. You still get to you

786
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still get to be German, but you know, you're basically

787
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our partner because you know, you're you're a peninsula that

788
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has no natural resources and we have them all. Yeah, yeah,

789
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but you have manufacturing, so you know, you can help yourself.

790
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You know, Europe can help themselves at least in that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I mean there's going to have to be a

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big Yeah, there's going to have to be a big

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shift in Europe before that's even consideration. And I think

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the race war happens first.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the race war happens if the industrialization

797
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happens first?

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Speaker 1: I think it's inevitable no matter what. Yeah, all right,

799
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but the central access of the transformation is US China. Divergence,

800
00:54:57,559 --> 00:55:00,880
the symbiosis of interests that define the last forty years

801
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has ended. Interdependence is now a battlefield, not a stabilizing force.

802
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So after Trump, but.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I remembering what little I do about Pat Buchanan,

804
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he had always said that that the entire system of

805
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globalism is based on interdependence being a stabilizing factor. But

806
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:28,519
it's actually the exact opposite, because you have civilizational cultural

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religious differences that cannot be overcome.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we had a long discussion about that this

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afternoon too. How how Christians can no longer live alongside

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non Christians?

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Speaker 2: Yep, I was just thinking about it earlier, you know,

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the nationalism part of being a Christian nationalist and the

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tendency for Christian nationalists to wander away into internationalism, especially

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with what's going on in certain Sub Saharan African nations

815
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right now.

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Speaker 1: M Yeah, you know, And I mean we have a

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common enemy we need to defeat, and any non Christians

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who want to join in that fight, I'm good with.

819
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But after that, we're just going to have to We're

820
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gonna have to figure something out. Yeah, after Trump, Trump

821
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:34,320
will not remain president forever, and China itself is evolving.

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A calmer phase may follow, or tensions may sharpen even further.

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The decisive variable will be will not be ideology, but

824
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power distribution. I mean that's what it always is, right,

825
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It's never ideology. I mean, ideology is the excuse ideology

826
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can be most of the time. Ideology is harmful. But

827
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you know, power is where everything is at. Civilization an identity,

828
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,440
civilizational identity adds depth to the contest. Economics and technology.

829
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Given urgency, leadership styles determine the tempo. The only certainty

830
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is that we are witnessing a structural shift, not a

831
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passing quarrel. Globalization's most ambitious phases over a world of

832
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civilizational players, sometimes cooperating, often competing, has arrived, and the

833
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relationship between the United States and China will define its

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contours more than any other single factor. I think that's

835
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pretty much hard to argue with at this point.

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Speaker 2: M h yeah, that's that's what drew me to this article.

837
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Is it just perfectly summarized the past, present, and future.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's uh, you know, talk about

839
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a couple of things where you know, it's really just

840
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:03,239
stuff that needs needs to be isn't really isn't really

841
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applicable until the occupation regime is defeated. But you know,

842
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,440
in the meantime, if you are, if you're one of

843
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:19,480
those people who understands it the best way right now

844
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:22,159
is not national politics because you're not going to fix

845
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:28,840
national politics, but local, county and state, then you know,

846
00:58:29,039 --> 00:58:32,719
you really do have to think about who you can

847
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,920
start thinking now and planning and talking about who you

848
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want to live around and who you don't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the only, the only contribution we can make to

850
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:52,280
national politics realistically is just leverage, leveraging on the margins.

851
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Speaker 1: As a movement, helping us to try to burn faster

852
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than it could possibly could.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just letting letting our elected officials know that

854
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:11,599
come election time, if you are not taking us into account,

855
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then you're not getting our vote. Doesn't mean we're going

856
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:18,400
to vote for your enemies. But you know, that's that's

857
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something that Foytase has figured out. I don't know successfully

858
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or not, but it'll be interesting to see the the

859
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midterms and the next election.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and I think it's one of those things

861
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where you where a lot of people are going to

862
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threaten with their vote and not even vote. Yeah, I mean,

863
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I think, yeah, it's really it's at this point, at

864
00:59:50,599 --> 00:59:52,719
this point, it's more important for you to vote for

865
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your school board, your school board, and your mayor and

866
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your sheriff than it is president of the the United States.

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M Yeah, at least you at least you can know

868
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them and know where they live. Yeah, just see, just

869
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so you can take them cookies on the holidays.

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Speaker 2: Spoken like somebody who lives in Alabama and not Massachusetts. Yeah,

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you're fucked.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know that's where your people are from. Man,

873
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,079
it's kind of hard to kind of kind of. I know.

874
01:00:34,159 --> 01:00:39,079
I tell people it's you know, if things are getting

875
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:41,400
really bad and get out, But I also understand people.

876
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,519
You know, people's culture and people's family and where they're

877
01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:48,360
from is really important. So it's hard for me, you know.

878
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,480
That's Yeah. I try to just say, you know, you

879
01:00:51,519 --> 01:00:56,639
got to just do what's best for you your family. Yeah,

880
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,119
if you're raising kids, like, if you're raising a kid

881
01:00:59,239 --> 01:01:03,039
like you are, being around family is important, not only

882
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:06,119
because you have built in babysitters, but you know, you

883
01:01:06,159 --> 01:01:07,639
want your kids to be around their family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You have to trust that your enemies are too

885
01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:19,840
incompetent and also not bring too much attention to yourself. Unfortunately,

886
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,320
that's the best I can do.

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01:01:23,199 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, man, let me get out of here.

888
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:29,599
Everybody go. So Timeline Earth released a ten and a

889
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:32,400
half hour Halloween episode. Are you anywhere on it?

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Speaker 2: I am? I am actually on the last segment.

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01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't gotten that far yet. Good good good

892
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,159
to you to put some time in over there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think I've recorded with you more hours

894
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than I have with TL in the past three months.

895
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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm certain like you've recorded more with me in

896
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,360
the last five years than you have with TLE. Completely

897
01:01:57,719 --> 01:01:58,880
like overall.

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Speaker 2: I know where my bread'spoked. It is certainly not at

899
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a crackhouse.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, have you good weekend. Thank you.