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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Pastor Rick's Daily Hope, the Bible

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<v Speaker 1>teaching ministry of Rick Warren. We're pausing our current series

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<v Speaker 1>to bring you a special message from Pastor Rick, one

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<v Speaker 1>that will help you reflect on God's goodness and grow

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<v Speaker 1>a heart of gratitude. And now Rick brings you the

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<v Speaker 1>final part of a moving message called being Thankful even

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<v Speaker 1>in bad times.

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<v Speaker 2>John fourteen says this, Jesus said, I'm going there. He's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about heaven. I'm going there to prepare a place

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<v Speaker 2>for you. And if I go and prepare a place

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<v Speaker 2>for you, I will come back and take you to

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<v Speaker 2>be with me that you also may be where I am.

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<v Speaker 2>What an incredible promise. Whenever I read that very circle

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<v Speaker 2>the phrase prepare a place for you, whenever I read

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm going to prepare a place for you. The

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<v Speaker 2>Bible says God wanted a family, and the Bible calls

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<v Speaker 2>the church the bride of Christ. He's preparing a place

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<v Speaker 2>for his bride, those who put their faith in him.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always think about how nearly thirty nine years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>as a young man, and I fell madly in love

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<v Speaker 2>with a woman named Kay Lewis, and I was head

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<v Speaker 2>over heels in love with this woman, and we got engaged,

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<v Speaker 2>and I lived in La County and she lived up

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<v Speaker 2>in Fresno, and I knew I needed to prepare a

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<v Speaker 2>place for my bride where we would live together. And

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a whole lot of money, but I

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<v Speaker 2>found the coolest little condo I could find, and of course,

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<v Speaker 2>being in the nineteen seventies, that meant had had lime

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<v Speaker 2>green shag carpet and burnt orange fixtures. If you remember that,

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<v Speaker 2>you're really old. And I remember, over the next several

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<v Speaker 2>months of our engagements, scouring because I didn't have any money,

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<v Speaker 2>every flea market and every garage sale, trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>cool things to put up in that house because I

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<v Speaker 2>was preparing that place for my bride, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>it so badly to be as cool and as beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>as I could possibly afford. But it's nothing compared to

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<v Speaker 2>the place that Jesus has been preparing for his bride.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to know how long God has been preparing

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<v Speaker 2>heaven for you, You want to know how long He's

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<v Speaker 2>been redecorating Heaven for you. Look at the next verse.

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew twenty five, Verse thirty four. Jesus says, then the

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<v Speaker 2>King will say, come, you who are blessed by my Father,

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<v Speaker 2>take your inheritance. The Kingdom prepared for you. Since the

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<v Speaker 2>creation of the world, Holy guacamole, that's a long time

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<v Speaker 2>to redecorate. He's been preparing heaven since the creation of

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<v Speaker 2>the world. What is heaven going to be? Like? The

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<v Speaker 2>Bible says, I have not seen nor ear heard, neither

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<v Speaker 2>has entered into the heart of man, the wonderful things

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<v Speaker 2>that God has prepared for those who love him. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine it. Most people have such a poor idea

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<v Speaker 2>of heaven. Who would want to go there? Television always

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<v Speaker 2>portrays heaven as completely colorless? Are you kidding me? Who

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<v Speaker 2>do you think created color? It's not going to be white.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to sit in a robe with angels

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<v Speaker 2>wings playing a harp on a cloud. That would be hell.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't think of anything if that's heaven. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to go there, honestly, I don't. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who got that idea. Satan got that idea, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>it came from. I mean, think about this. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of cool and beautiful things on this planet, and

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<v Speaker 2>God created it. I mean, you think about sunrises and

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<v Speaker 2>sunsets and beautiful beach landscapes and borah and tall redwood

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<v Speaker 2>forests and all the beauty of flowers and colors and green.

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<v Speaker 2>The earth is broken and it's still a cool place.

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<v Speaker 2>This place is marred by sin. It's why nothing works,

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<v Speaker 2>including the environment, and it's still a cool place. Think

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<v Speaker 2>about what a place with no sin and no suffering

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<v Speaker 2>and no sorrow and no destruction and no global warming

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<v Speaker 2>and nothing else, And what's going to be like? We

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<v Speaker 2>can't even imagine it. God has been preparing it. In

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<v Speaker 2>the CNN interview, Peers asked Kay and I about heaven

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<v Speaker 2>and about hope after Matthew's death.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what we said, Is there any sin trick despite

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<v Speaker 3>the appolling dispair that you've gone through, isn't any s

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<v Speaker 3>of relief as a family that Matthew is now with

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<v Speaker 3>God in heaven out of pain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. If I didn't have that hope, I would be

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<v Speaker 2>in ultimate despair. But we have built our lives, our faith,

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<v Speaker 2>our family, our ministry on the belief that because of

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ, and because of what He did on the

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<v Speaker 2>cross for us, we can have our past forgiven. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a purpose for living, and we have a home

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<v Speaker 2>in heaven that takes care of my past, my present,

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<v Speaker 2>and my future.

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<v Speaker 3>How would you like him to be?

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<v Speaker 2>Remember?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, my funny, quirky, ridiculously silly, deeply compassioned, had such

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<v Speaker 4>a sense of justice. We put on his marker Compassionate Warrior,

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<v Speaker 4>and that pretty much sums him up in deep compassion.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we probably received over thirty thousand letters of condolences.

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<v Speaker 2>The letters that meant the most to me were the

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<v Speaker 2>people that Matthew had led to faith in Christ that

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be in heaven because of him, And that said,

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<v Speaker 2>I know the Lord, I have a relationship with Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>because of your son over the years. And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>writing in my journal that in God's garden of Grace,

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<v Speaker 2>even a broken tree bears fruit. And that was true

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<v Speaker 2>in his life. And you know, i'd like you say,

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<v Speaker 2>are you happy that it's making a difference? Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>to him? I still want my son back. I still

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<v Speaker 2>want my son to Dad. But as David said in

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<v Speaker 2>Second Samuel, who David lost a son, he said, he

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<v Speaker 2>will not come back to me, but I will go

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<v Speaker 2>to him. And that is the hope of heaven. That

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<v Speaker 2>we have and that has strengthen us even through the

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<v Speaker 2>darkest day. You know, David says, when I go through

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<v Speaker 2>the valley of the shadow of death, wherever there's a shadow,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a light. And so the key to walking through

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<v Speaker 2>the valued shadow of death is to turn your back

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<v Speaker 2>on the shadow, which is scary, and look at the light.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how you get through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel he's he's here now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I know that he's in heaven looking down on us.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have many loved ones there, my parents, Kay's

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<v Speaker 2>mom and dad. And that presence of God is more

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<v Speaker 2>important than the presence of Matthew in my life. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that I've since the presence of God in my life

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<v Speaker 2>very close. That I'm not going through this alone. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a comfort.

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<v Speaker 3>Ricking Caseby is such an honor and a privilege to

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<v Speaker 3>do this interview. Thank you, thanks letting me do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And my heart goes out to you. It's a heartbreaking story.

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<v Speaker 3>There's hope, but.

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<v Speaker 4>There is so important that people know no matter how

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<v Speaker 4>desperate they're despair, there is hope. There's and not to

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<v Speaker 4>give up.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you both very much. Indeed, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter what I go through, I know it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to last. And I know that this is not

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the story. And I know that God

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<v Speaker 2>has prepared a home for me in heaven forever. What

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<v Speaker 2>is heaven going to be like? I'll say it again.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bible says, I has not seen nor ear heard,

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<v Speaker 2>neither hath entered into the heart of man, the wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>things that God has prepared for those who love him.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that in heaven we will be reunited with

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<v Speaker 2>loved once. I have a father in heaven, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a mother in heaven, I have a brother in heaven,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a son in heaven. I will be reunited

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<v Speaker 2>with those who love the Lord and who are there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that we will be released from all pain,

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<v Speaker 2>that in heaven there will be no more broken minds

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<v Speaker 2>from mental illness. There will be no more broken bodies

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<v Speaker 2>that don't work right. There will be no more broken dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be no more broken relationships, no more broken communication,

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<v Speaker 2>no more broken hearts, no more broken promises.

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<v Speaker 3>Who will be released?

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<v Speaker 2>The Bible says there will be no more death. There

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<v Speaker 2>will be no more pain, no more tears, no sorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>no more suffering. We know that we will be rewarded.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bible says, according to what you did with what

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<v Speaker 2>you were giving. We talked about this last week. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you storing up treasure in heaven? Are you spending it

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<v Speaker 2>all on yourself? Now? The Bible says, we will be

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<v Speaker 2>reassigned that in heaven you're not gonna sit around and

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<v Speaker 2>do nothing. There's gonna be things to do. There's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be work projects. Only there's no weeds and no problems

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<v Speaker 2>that don't work, and no committees to deal with, no

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<v Speaker 2>office politics. That you're gonna enjoy what you do. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna sit around just do nothing. The Bible says,

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<v Speaker 2>this first Peter, Chapter one, God has reserved for his children. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, let me stop right there. God put

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<v Speaker 2>that reservation in a long time ago for you. God

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<v Speaker 2>has reserved your place in heaven. God is reserved for

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<v Speaker 2>his children, the priceless gift of eternal life. Is everybody

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in heaven? Absolutely not. If God let

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<v Speaker 2>hitler and axe murders and child molesters and rapists and

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<v Speaker 2>genocidal dictators into heaven, it'd be no better than this.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bible says, Only his children are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in heaven. Is everybody child of God. No, everybody is

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<v Speaker 2>created by God. Everybody is loved by God. God has

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<v Speaker 2>never made a person he doesn't want in heaven. God

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<v Speaker 2>has never made a person he doesn't have a plan

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<v Speaker 2>for their life. But you don't become a child of

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<v Speaker 2>God till you choose to join his family. God's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to force you to love him. Love only is love.

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<v Speaker 2>If I have the choice, then a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>today say, forget you, God, I don't need a savior.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need God. I'm God. I'm gonna be my

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<v Speaker 2>own God. I could get to Heaven on my own.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't stand a snowball's chance of hell of getting

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<v Speaker 2>into Heaven on your own, because it's perfect and you're not,

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<v Speaker 2>and neither am I. And the height of ultimate arrogance

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<v Speaker 2>is to say that I get to decide how I

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<v Speaker 2>go to God's house. Really, you can't earn it, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't deserve it, you can't work for it, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>be good enough, you can't be religious enough. The only

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<v Speaker 2>way you're getting into heaven, friend, is by grace, by

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<v Speaker 2>God forgiving you. And you would you saying God, I

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<v Speaker 2>need your forgiveness, I need your grace I need you

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<v Speaker 2>to save me. That's what Jesus came at Christmas to

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<v Speaker 2>do for unto you is born as savior. If you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't need a savior, God wouldn't have sent one. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no way you're getting into Heaven on your own. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to go the way you only get in, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is through the grace of God and the Mishaven.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to do the almost impossible. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>reject the love of God out of pride. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need forgiveness. I don't need a savior. God is reserved

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<v Speaker 2>for his children, the priceless gift of eternal life. Now

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<v Speaker 2>look at this. It's kept in Heaven for you, pure

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<v Speaker 2>and undefiled, beyond the reach of change and decay. And

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<v Speaker 2>God in his mighty power, will make sure circle that,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that you get there safely. It is the

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<v Speaker 2>job of the captain of the cruise line to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you get there safely. It's not your job. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not my job to make sure I get to Heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>It's God's job. Once I've put my hand in his,

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<v Speaker 2>He's not letting go. He will make sure you get

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<v Speaker 2>there safely. You see, if I could work my way

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<v Speaker 2>to heaven. Then the moment I stopped working, it would

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<v Speaker 2>stop working. My salvation would stop working. But since I

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<v Speaker 2>don't earn or work for my salvation, since it's simply

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<v Speaker 2>a gift, God's not going to take it back. That

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<v Speaker 2>is called eternal security. He will make sure that you

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<v Speaker 2>get there safely to receive it. It's not based on

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<v Speaker 2>my ability, because you are trusting Him. So be truly glad.

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<v Speaker 2>I can be grateful even in pain, because I know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to heaven no matter what happens, and no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what I do or what happens. Ever since I

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<v Speaker 2>am getting there by God's grace, because I put my

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<v Speaker 2>trust in what Jesus did for me. You know, my

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<v Speaker 2>greatest comfort has been this fact right here, because I

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<v Speaker 2>know that Matthew was not in heaven one second when

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<v Speaker 2>mental illness and all the struggle and all the stigma,

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<v Speaker 2>he faced in school was all wiped out, and it

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<v Speaker 2>all made sense. And I know that if my son

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<v Speaker 2>could talk to me right now from heaven, he would

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<v Speaker 2>say this, Dad, you were so wrong. You tried to

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<v Speaker 2>explain heaven to me, but it is so much better

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<v Speaker 2>than we ever imagined. Dad, you can't believe it. You

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea how cool it is here. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait for you to get here too and spend

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<v Speaker 2>eternity in the loving presence of God. That's why I

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<v Speaker 2>can be thankful this Thanksgiving. Two Corinthians for says this.

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<v Speaker 2>We often suffer, but we're never crushed. Even when we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to do. We never give up in

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<v Speaker 2>times of trouble. God is with us, and when we're

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<v Speaker 2>knocked down, we get up again. We know that God

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<v Speaker 2>raised the Lord Jesus back to life, and just as

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<v Speaker 2>he raised Jesus, he will also raise us back to

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<v Speaker 2>life and will bring us into His presence together. So

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<v Speaker 2>we don't focus on the troubles we see right now. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>we look forward to what we don't see yet. For

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<v Speaker 2>the troubles we see now are temporary, but the joys

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<v Speaker 2>to come will last forever. If you have not settled

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<v Speaker 2>this issue, need to do so right now, because you're

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<v Speaker 2>not guaranteed tomorrow, much less next week or next year.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were to die tonight and Jesus were to

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<v Speaker 2>say to you, why should I let you into my heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you say? Do you know the right answer?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not Oh, I was trying to be a good person.

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<v Speaker 2>I had more good than bad. Sorry, wrong answer. You

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<v Speaker 2>need to accept the grace and forgiveness of God in

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<v Speaker 2>your life, and you need to turn your life over

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<v Speaker 2>to the God who made you. Let's bow our heads.

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<v Speaker 2>If you haven't settled that issue. I'm going to lead

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<v Speaker 2>a prayer right now and I want you to pray it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the most important words you'll ever say in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>It determines eternal destiny. It is the height of arrogance

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<v Speaker 2>to think that you can come to God on your

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<v Speaker 2>own terms. God has done everything for you. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to do anything, You just receive it by faith.

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<v Speaker 2>So would you pray this prayer? Dear God, First, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to thank you for my ungratefulness. Everything I have

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<v Speaker 2>is a gift from you, and I don't express that

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<v Speaker 2>gratitude very often. I thank you that you have a

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<v Speaker 2>good plan for my life. I thank you that you've

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<v Speaker 2>promised to never leave me. I thank you that when

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<v Speaker 2>people are working against me, you want to work in me.

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you that there is a hope of heaven

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<v Speaker 2>in eternity and you preparing a home that you want

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<v Speaker 2>me to be a part of. Dear God, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way I can get into heaven on my own effort.

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<v Speaker 2>I need a savior, and so I humbly ask you, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>to forgive all my sins, to show me your grace

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<v Speaker 2>and to accept me into your family. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be your child, and as best I know how, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to learn to love you and trust you the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of my life. And I want you to take

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<v Speaker 2>me safely to heaven. And I pray this in your name. Amen.

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<v Speaker 2>You know if you just prayed that prayer for the

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<v Speaker 2>very first time, or you just recommitted your life to

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus again today, would you let me know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something real about sharing your commitment. So write me

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<v Speaker 2>Rick at pastor Rick dot com and say, Rick, I

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<v Speaker 2>prayed that prayer of commitment. I gave my life to Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll send you some material that will help you

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<v Speaker 2>on your journey with Jesus. And I'll also pray for you.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless you.

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<v Speaker 1>What life giving message from Pastor Reg. Now let's join

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<v Speaker 1>Reg with one last closing thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, this is Pastor Rick. You know there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>we can be grateful for during Thanksgiving. No matter how

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<v Speaker 2>things go wrong in your life, there's still something you

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<v Speaker 2>can thank God for. But let's remember those who are

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<v Speaker 2>less fortunate. Reach out to somebody with the love of

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<v Speaker 2>God this Thanksgiving, maybe with a meal or a blanket,

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<v Speaker 2>or invite them to church. Think about what you can

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<v Speaker 2>do to let them know they're not forgotten during this

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<v Speaker 2>season of giving. Thanks God bless you all and have

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<v Speaker 2>a great Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to join us next time as we look

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<v Speaker 1>into God's word for our daily hope. This program is

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<v Speaker 1>sponsored by Pastor Rick's Daily Hope and your generous financial support.
