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Speaker 1: Yet another day in paradise?
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Speaker 1: Oh Mary gosh. We have an angel of a guest.
Speaker 1: See what I did there?
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yes, we have a very special guest to you for
Speaker 2: you today. But before I get to that, let me
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Speaker 1: True.
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Speaker 2: with Fan Expo this year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been good so far. Has very live actually
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Speaker 2: This is working on and we got some upcoming dates
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Speaker 2: to Anaheim.
Speaker 1: Rings a Bell. I've heard of it.
Speaker 2: Anaheim. There's Disney, so potentially Anaheim. There's still some negotiations
Speaker 2: going on. But if you see this in time, then
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Speaker 2: And I like the atmosphere of the Live Fan Expo podcast.
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Speaker 2: You know, we can't edit any Yeah, well, the energy
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Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: We've had some hack shows, I mean, I know, holy yow.
Speaker 2: I mean with Erica, Durance and Calgary that was like
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Speaker 2: So if you're in the area for any of those dates,
Speaker 2: be sure to come check it out. And with all
Speaker 2: that said and done, our special guest today here is
Speaker 2: Angelie Binmani thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 1: Yes, I did, thank you.
Speaker 3: Thank you, yes, yes, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: All right, very cool, very cool. You You have been busy.
Speaker 1: I always do my homework. Look see on this high
Speaker 1: tech that I have.
Speaker 3: Creative people I know right anywhere they can.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well that's what I meant to say exactly.
Speaker 1: I was just being creative and writing anywhere that I could.
Speaker 1: But h yeah, I mean you are are kind of busy.
Speaker 1: You have been busy for a while.
Speaker 3: I don't sit still very well.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not great at it. I tend to panic
Speaker 3: when I'm trying to sit still. I was thinking about Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was thinking about this the other day. I actually
Speaker 3: wrote this down, and then I was like, whoa I wrote?
Speaker 1: I wrote.
Speaker 3: The panic that I feel when there's too much to
Speaker 3: do is nothing compared to the panic I feel when
Speaker 3: I'm not doing anything and think I'm supposed to be
Speaker 3: doing something. Wow, yeah, where I'm like, I know, I know,
Speaker 3: I know there's something I'm not getting done that I
Speaker 3: was supposed to do and I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got that gap in your head and you're going,
Speaker 1: oh God, what did I forget? I just forgot to
Speaker 1: remember it, that's all. Yeah, I've got that one.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I look, we're very lucky because we live
Speaker 3: in a world where there are so many different ways
Speaker 3: to tell stories and there's so many different media that
Speaker 3: we can work in and uh, and so I just
Speaker 3: like to do it as often as I can with
Speaker 3: cool people.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, well, but you're here anyway.
Speaker 3: I'm appreciate it, right that a deprecating humor won't fly
Speaker 3: with me. Yeah, that's the one making the self deprecating.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, that's it works right, Otherwise it's an insult,
Speaker 1: like if you throw it, it's it's not as much
Speaker 1: fun for me. Not that I'm insecure. Oh but thanks
Speaker 1: for being here. This is so great, This is so cool.
Speaker 1: You've been very busy. I've been doing homework on you.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you are in probably one of the biggest
Speaker 1: video games ever. I mean, come on, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: what do we have here? The world famous overall Overwatch.
Speaker 1: That's got to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's it continues to be mind
Speaker 3: blowing to me how not just well received but embraced
Speaker 3: and run with that game has been And I do
Speaker 3: I do think there are a lot of great reasons
Speaker 3: for that, But you know, Blizzard tends to do big
Speaker 3: awesome things and big awesome games, So obviously, when when
Speaker 3: when I first recorded with them, I knew that this
Speaker 3: was going to be a big game. But what I
Speaker 3: don't think any of us prepared for how much the
Speaker 3: community grabbed onto it and then ran with it and
Speaker 3: turned it into something even bigger and more beautiful than
Speaker 3: I think that that anyone had imagined it would be,
Speaker 3: both for those of us creating it and for the
Speaker 3: community itself.
Speaker 1: Can you tell that when you when you first get
Speaker 1: a script, when when you first get when you first
Speaker 1: look at it, when you first look at the layout,
Speaker 1: the characters that this that can you go, oh, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a good one.
Speaker 3: Honestly, this one that was not? So no short answer, no, okay,
Speaker 3: The short answer is no. I don't trust my opinion
Speaker 3: of most things, of most things that involve my performance.
Speaker 3: So I think I have finally given over, after being
Speaker 3: in this business for three decades, I have finally given
Speaker 3: over to the fact that what it feels like on
Speaker 3: the inside is not what it sounds like or looks
Speaker 3: like on the outside. And then I have to be
Speaker 3: okay with that that you know, you learn the lesson,
Speaker 3: hopefully early, but you learn the lesson If you had
Speaker 3: a bad performance and someone comes up to you and
Speaker 3: compliments you, you don't tell them, oh God, that was
Speaker 3: the worst show ever. You allow them to have that experience, right,
Speaker 3: you know that much. But over time I have also
Speaker 3: learned whatever my perception of it is, chances are it
Speaker 3: is completely different than what it was for people on
Speaker 3: the outside.
Speaker 1: That's right, because it takes getting used to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really does. And it takes a level of
Speaker 3: letting go of control that I'm not. It's not easy
Speaker 3: for me, but it is very freeing when I can,
Speaker 3: because it means I'm working with people that I really trust.
Speaker 3: If I really trust the director, if I really trust
Speaker 3: the editor, if I really trust the people around me,
Speaker 3: then I can just do what I do and not
Speaker 3: be thinking about is it good or is it bad.
Speaker 3: I trust that they're doing it. I trust that they're
Speaker 3: handling it and they see the vision better than I do. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: so ahead. My audition for Overwatch was a perfect example
Speaker 3: because I was I was my husband's a touring musician,
Speaker 3: and we were at the end of their tour in
Speaker 3: Europe and the UK. So we were about to leave
Speaker 3: for sound check for the final show, and I knew
Speaker 3: the plan for the evening was just based on like
Speaker 3: where we were and what travel was going to look
Speaker 3: like that I was going to have to stay up
Speaker 3: all night to get back to the hotel at seven
Speaker 3: in the morning, grab my bags and then hop on
Speaker 3: a plane.
Speaker 1: Shack all night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like that was just going to be it.
Speaker 3: That was just going to be how it was. So
Speaker 3: that the audition came in right as we were leaving for
Speaker 3: sound check, and I realized exactly, I realized what the
Speaker 3: sound with the time difference, The only way I'd be
Speaker 3: able to get this in by the deadline, given the
Speaker 3: fact I was going somewhere very loud, the only way
Speaker 3: I'd be able to do it would be to record it.
Speaker 3: When I came back to the hotel room seven o'clock
Speaker 3: in the morning, bleary eyed with no sleep. So I
Speaker 3: came back, turned on my phone, asked my now husband, Hey,
Speaker 3: just be quiet for ast couple of seconds. I'm going
Speaker 3: to do this. Two takes sent it off, and then
Speaker 3: it was like cool, I did my job. I'm There's
Speaker 3: no way I'm going to book this, but I'm just
Speaker 3: going to get out of there, like I don't. I
Speaker 3: have no idea how that sounded, and not how that sounded.
Speaker 3: I obviously made sure that it was you know, it's assisted,
Speaker 3: but and that ended up being the audition that got
Speaker 3: me the job. And I look back on that and
Speaker 3: it's such a reminder not to discount yourself before someone
Speaker 3: else does, because I think a lot of us performers
Speaker 3: and artists do what we decide before someone says no,
Speaker 3: why it's going to be a no, rather than saying like, no, look,
Speaker 3: if I've got the audition and I whatever, I'm going
Speaker 3: to make it happen. I'm not going to give them
Speaker 3: a reason that I don't get the job. They can decide, YEA,
Speaker 3: let them come on their own. Yeah, exactly. I'm sure
Speaker 3: there will be plenty of people in the world who
Speaker 3: are going to say no to me for a million
Speaker 3: different things. I'm not going to be the first person
Speaker 3: to do it right, which I do think is part
Speaker 3: of why, going back to what you said, part of
Speaker 3: why I've stayed busy is because I just like saying
Speaker 3: yes to opportunities to try new things. Even if there
Speaker 3: are things I'm terrified of almost especially if they're things
Speaker 3: that I'm terrified of. I kind of love that. I
Speaker 3: kind of love trying things for the first time in
Speaker 3: front of an audience.
Speaker 1: Is that is that? Would you say that when it
Speaker 1: comes to film animation? You know, singing? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: what is your what is what drew you first into
Speaker 1: the into the circus?
Speaker 3: You're sure? I was definitely so. So theater was my
Speaker 3: first language, which I feel like is the case for
Speaker 3: a lot of people because in school, in grade school,
Speaker 3: even you got the school play, right, very few people
Speaker 3: have the school film or the school or the school
Speaker 3: animated series. Right, very few people have that. We all have.
Speaker 3: We all have the school play, we all have the
Speaker 3: you know, the Puppets show.
Speaker 1: A very rich school.
Speaker 3: Yeah. If you've got that, man, more power to you,
Speaker 3: like go get it.
Speaker 2: We had school news that counts the school news. It
Speaker 2: was like filmed. It was like they broadcast like school
Speaker 2: news every day.
Speaker 3: We just have the announcements over the last Yeah that's
Speaker 3: right over the PA system. But yeah, so theater was
Speaker 3: my first love, and I I you know, I did
Speaker 3: the school plays and then I did community theater, and
Speaker 3: I didn't really understand, which this is going to sound
Speaker 3: so dumb in hindsight, but I didn't really understand that
Speaker 3: this was a thing that people actually did for a living,
Speaker 3: that this was a viable job path. And I shouldn't
Speaker 3: say it was dumb. It was just I hadn't I
Speaker 3: hadn't put two and two together. They're like, oh, those
Speaker 3: people who were doing it on Broadway, and oh those
Speaker 3: people who were doing this at whatever theater I have
Speaker 3: gone to see a play. They are also doing this
Speaker 3: as a profession, some of them. So once I really that,
Speaker 3: I told my parents, who at first were in a
Speaker 3: little bit of denial, and then they were like, oh, cool, cool, cool.
Speaker 3: You know what, if you want to do this three rules.
Speaker 3: One treat it like a real job. Two, get really
Speaker 3: good at it, and three pay your own bills. We're
Speaker 3: behind you. One. Just do those three things.
Speaker 1: That's not bad. No, that's pretty good advice.
Speaker 3: Pretty incredible advice. And I think it it's great advice
Speaker 3: to get as a young person going into an artistic field,
Speaker 3: because I think a lot of us get kind of
Speaker 3: caught up in the I'm anto, yeah, I have to
Speaker 3: feel the things. You're like. You also have to pay
Speaker 3: the bills, like you have the roof over your head, right,
Speaker 3: So you learn how to do that, figure out how
Speaker 3: to do that at the same time as you're as
Speaker 3: you're as you're pursuing whatever exciting field you want to be,
Speaker 3: whether that's brain surgery or acting or being a lawyer
Speaker 3: or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had that too. I said, well, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to do this and I wanted to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but how are you going to pay the bills? No,
Speaker 1: I'll do that well enough that it pays the bill, Okay,
Speaker 1: but in case you don't, cause he's not going to
Speaker 1: what what are you going to? You know?
Speaker 3: There was that, Yeah, I definitely like there was a
Speaker 3: there was a moment a short period of time where
Speaker 3: my mom was like, you know what, why don't you
Speaker 3: get a degree in something else? Just in the state, right?
Speaker 3: And I kind of felt like, Well, if I'm going
Speaker 3: to do this and I have to be really good
Speaker 3: at it, and I have to treat it like a
Speaker 3: real job, I need to go study it like I
Speaker 3: would if it was the real job you're asking me
Speaker 3: to get a degree in. I don't want to get
Speaker 3: really good at the thing that's my backup. I kind
Speaker 3: of don't even want to have a backup. I just
Speaker 3: want to be able to pursue this and if I
Speaker 3: fail at it, then cool, I will pivot. And yeah,
Speaker 3: so and and I did you know, of course, like
Speaker 3: I had a day job for the I'm very lucky
Speaker 3: for a very short period of time in my early
Speaker 3: theater days. But but it was not something that felt
Speaker 3: like it was because I couldn't be an actor, right,
Speaker 3: And that mindset difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big one, that's right.
Speaker 3: It's not I'm doing this. It's not I'm doing this
Speaker 3: until I'm an actor. It's I'm doing this while I'm acting.
Speaker 3: This is this is this is the thing I do
Speaker 3: during the day, and that is the thing I do. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so to spun money. Yeah, and sometimes look, sometimes what's
Speaker 3: fun is keeping the roof over your head. That's fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely.
Speaker 3: That's definitely a little more fun than not having.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, under a bridge, living under bridge. It's not
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 3: It's just not this just the same. I do it
Speaker 3: for research for right, right, not necessarily by choice.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a lot what you say all the time, Jim,
Speaker 2: is like you take a blue collar attitude towards a
Speaker 2: no caller job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great way to put it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: a great way to put it. And I do think
Speaker 3: some of the most I don't know what the term
Speaker 3: is for it now, like journeyman actors, but that obviously
Speaker 3: applies to all genders. But like the people who have
Speaker 3: been doing it consistently for years and years and years
Speaker 3: and years, and you may not recog their face, I mean,
Speaker 3: you may not know their name, but you definitely recognize
Speaker 3: their face or know their voice. Those are people who
Speaker 3: have been treating it not just as an art, but
Speaker 3: as a craft, as a as a vocation, and that
Speaker 3: practicality I think is really important. Having your feet on
Speaker 3: the ground but your head in the clouds, like both
Speaker 3: of those at the same time, is really great.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good expression.
Speaker 3: Thanks, Oh, thanks kind of.
Speaker 1: I think I just wrote it. That's awesome. Well.
Speaker 2: I think it's so easy, especially these days, to like
Speaker 2: hyper focus on like the stars, you know, like the
Speaker 2: of anything. You know. I had a I played football
Speaker 2: in college and I had a friend who was in
Speaker 2: the NFL, played for the Cleveland Browns, and he didn't
Speaker 2: look like an NFL player, you know, he was like
Speaker 2: probably like fifth on the depth chart at receiver. It
Speaker 2: was like, you know, six foot one, like one hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety pounds. And I remember going to a seven
Speaker 2: to eleven with him one time and the cashier set
Speaker 2: his shirt and it, you know, says Cleveland Browns Football.
Speaker 2: And then she's like, oh, that's that's cool. Who do
Speaker 2: you play football for? And he was like, Cleveland Browns
Speaker 2: And then she's like, I didn't know there was a
Speaker 2: high school named after the Cleveland Browns. And he was
Speaker 2: just like, you know, I'm in the NFL, you know.
Speaker 2: And it's because you know, there's a sixty five man roster,
Speaker 2: but how many players do we really know? We know
Speaker 2: that Tom Brady's we know that. You know. Yeah, same
Speaker 2: thing with a movie or a TV show. You know,
Speaker 2: we know that the star of the show, there's like
Speaker 2: hundreds of actors all around them. You know, there's background,
Speaker 2: there's guest stars, there's you know, reoccurring, there's all these
Speaker 2: different actors, and the same thing even into voiceover. You know,
Speaker 2: there's the main voices and then there's you know, you
Speaker 2: see all the credits. I mean, doing research on so
Speaker 2: many people, there's I was just going to say, you
Speaker 2: know it doesn't even have a character name. But it's
Speaker 2: like I was in that movie, you know, I was
Speaker 2: in that show.
Speaker 3: And especially I think now with social media and that
Speaker 3: sort of that whole economy, the creator economy and all
Speaker 3: and what's you know what goes along with that, I
Speaker 3: think it's even more of a trap now to fall into.
Speaker 3: It's more important for me to be known than for
Speaker 3: me to have that job notoriety have that. You know,
Speaker 3: you have to do both if you're going to pursue
Speaker 3: being known, if that's going to be part of what
Speaker 3: you do, pr and all of that. And look, I'm
Speaker 3: absolutely into that. I do it all the time. I
Speaker 3: love it. I love it. I love being out there
Speaker 3: in the world. But you also need to be focused
Speaker 3: on doing a better job and doing a better job
Speaker 3: and your craft and getting the job done. And I
Speaker 3: think it can be very easy for people to look
Speaker 3: at the stars or the names and think that's success
Speaker 3: rather than additional voice.
Speaker 2: And yeah, in my experience too, it comes from the
Speaker 2: top down. I mean, I've been you know, acting for
Speaker 2: eleven years now out of college, and right when I
Speaker 2: graduated college was kind of like the beginning of the
Speaker 2: era of casting by social media following.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, And.
Speaker 2: I just did. I just literally did a movie a
Speaker 2: couple months ago where half of the cast was all
Speaker 2: because of their Instagram or social media following. Interesting, you know,
Speaker 2: as an indie movie.
Speaker 1: So it craze.
Speaker 2: They want to bring eyes in and I mean even,
Speaker 2: I mean look at this year even you know, there's
Speaker 2: been what three major movies done by YouTubers, right, you know.
Speaker 3: Iron Although I do think that that is more a
Speaker 3: factor of you know, the studio system and everything kind
Speaker 3: of being reimagined, and also people just getting sick and
Speaker 3: tired of having to go through a bunch of gatekeepers
Speaker 3: to get something done. If you have a successful YouTube
Speaker 3: channel and you are surrounded by talented people and you
Speaker 3: know how to produce a show, why not create an
Speaker 3: independent show or independent movie. You know, it used to
Speaker 3: be just okay, we'll kickstart it. Well, okay, now maybe
Speaker 3: people can do that through their following. It's just that
Speaker 3: if that movie is not good, or if those actors
Speaker 3: are not good, and of course that's not going to
Speaker 3: be a good movie. It's just common sense. But if
Speaker 3: they're if they have built their following based on their
Speaker 3: talent and based on how fun it is to watch
Speaker 3: them and listen to them. Then I'm all for it.
Speaker 3: I'm all about it. It's I think that the negative
Speaker 3: thing happens when it's just about people's followers and not
Speaker 3: about why they're going to followed.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, and that's so many likes, Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe you had a really cute dog video.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like, anything is possible. That's
Speaker 3: why even my social media, my social VIDIA is relatively big.
Speaker 3: But I take it with such a grain of salt.
Speaker 3: Also because all of those people are following for different reasons.
Speaker 3: Some people know me from overwatch or video games. Some
Speaker 3: people might know me from TV, some people might know
Speaker 3: me from my charity work. Some people they're all there
Speaker 3: for different reasons. So no one thing is going to
Speaker 3: please all of those people, and they're not all there
Speaker 3: for that. So that number is exclusive is mutually like,
Speaker 3: it's not necessarily a selling point. I should be saying that,
Speaker 3: like no hireman. On the other hand, on the other hand,
Speaker 3: please buy. But I don't. I don't ever want people
Speaker 3: to misconstrue that those numbers equal people who are taking
Speaker 3: in what we are creating. Because I think That's also
Speaker 3: a big trap for actors, you know, is to think, oh,
Speaker 3: well I don't have a big following, so therefore I'm
Speaker 3: not going to get this job, and.
Speaker 1: You get a false image of yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or of the other people who you feel like
Speaker 3: you're competing against.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, well the hell with them. That's just
Speaker 1: you know, there's no competition.
Speaker 3: I'm in the game, that's right.
Speaker 1: That's don't worry. There's plenty of room to be number two.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, what do.
Speaker 2: You think about this evolution, Jim, of this transition. I mean,
Speaker 2: you've been in the industry for so long that it
Speaker 2: was you know, it was probably a circle of like
Speaker 2: one hundred people when you started in voice acting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there wasn't There were not There were not many.
Speaker 1: I remember being at Burbank at the voice Caster, the
Speaker 1: good old Voicecaster, and this is a long time ago,
Speaker 1: it's got to be maybe twenty years ago, and people
Speaker 1: were talking about their social media following, their following, Well
Speaker 1: how many followers? You know, I was at an audition
Speaker 1: the other day and they think, oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: are you on blah blah blah, Yes, I am. How
Speaker 1: many followers? Well, you know, and it's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't imagine that being a factor, but it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think it's kind of stinks.
Speaker 3: I think it again. I think it's unfortunate because I
Speaker 3: think it can it can divert people's attention from from
Speaker 3: their own level of talent, you know, from their own
Speaker 3: I think it's so easy for people to get discouraged
Speaker 3: because of it, or to think I have to do
Speaker 3: that in order to be a successful actor. Is it helpful? Sure?
Speaker 3: So are a million other things that are helpful and
Speaker 3: look great. Example in Mandalaani, who was our lead on
Speaker 3: MS Marvel. She's wonderful, exceedingly talented, wonderful, rounded, brilliant person
Speaker 3: does not have social media because she's like, I don't
Speaker 3: feel like that's going to be good for me. I'm
Speaker 3: not really interested in that. That's not my jam.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: She's doing just fine. She's doing just fine.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I know that's an extreme example, but I think I
Speaker 3: don't know. And again, I am very active on social media.
Speaker 3: I just hate the idea that people would think that
Speaker 3: they have to have a certain set of criteria there
Speaker 3: in order to be successful. Whatever here is, whether we're
Speaker 3: doing voiceover, whether we're doing TV, film, whatever. For me,
Speaker 3: It's also just been another another way I'm saying cool,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to give anyone else a reason not
Speaker 3: to hire me. So I'm going to have whatever I
Speaker 3: need to have or all the things, and then you decide.
Speaker 2: I think the key is to oh sorry, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: if you're going to say something.
Speaker 1: No I was. I was just thinking about Kats who
Speaker 1: see she played she played dark Wing Duck's girlfriend on
Speaker 1: a dark Wing Duck. And she doesn't have any social media,
Speaker 1: doesn't post, doesn't do this, doesn't have a website, doesn't
Speaker 1: have a I don't know, she might not even email.
Speaker 1: Who knows. But she just said that's not why I'm here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and boom. But she's doing great. You know, she's morgana
Speaker 1: macab on dark Wing Duck in case you're wondering. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean she's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I don't and I don't want to be again,
Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not saying that one is good and
Speaker 3: one is bad. I just think it has to be
Speaker 3: a very personal decision, just like any other choices you
Speaker 3: make in this industry.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it and it can be really time consuming.
Speaker 3: It is. It is very time consuming, and I have
Speaker 3: certainly gone through phases of like, this is not joyful anymore.
Speaker 3: Why am I doing this? So I slow down and
Speaker 3: just don't or or do it with friends because that's fun.
Speaker 3: But I so much of what has worked about my
Speaker 3: trajectory through the different media that I've worked with is
Speaker 3: following the fun.
Speaker 1: It's following the fun.
Speaker 3: If it's not fun anymore, I'm kind of like, Okay,
Speaker 3: there is a great disturbance in the forest. What am
Speaker 3: I doing? Is there something in me that's making this
Speaker 3: not fun? Is it my expectations, is it me being tired?
Speaker 3: Is it all of these things? Or is it just
Speaker 3: not fun because I've burnt myself out on this one
Speaker 3: thing and I need to reassess.
Speaker 1: Well, I could not agree more. I you know, I'm
Speaker 1: thank god I found something, but I'm just too immature
Speaker 1: to follow. Okay, Well you can make a couple of
Speaker 1: bucks doing that, yeah, but I don't want to, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to punch a time card because it
Speaker 1: feels like that I've done that for real, sure, like
Speaker 1: at a steal mail and you know, the things like that.
Speaker 1: But I'm not good at that part. So if I'm
Speaker 1: not having fun if I'm not getting intellectually or or
Speaker 1: creatively stimulated. Yeah, it's like, eh, got go.
Speaker 3: Our version of fun might look completely different than someone
Speaker 3: else is. Like, I am fully aware that to me,
Speaker 3: screaming and crying through a Greek three hour Greek tragedy
Speaker 3: that's fun.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily something.
Speaker 3: It's pretty awesome to begin to leave it all out
Speaker 3: on table and they go back home and you're like,
Speaker 3: I'm so well adjusted, this is amazing, look at this.
Speaker 3: But I but so it might look completely different. But
Speaker 3: knowing what that means to you is I think is
Speaker 3: also really important. And for me, one of the things
Speaker 3: that's fun about what we do is never getting bored.
Speaker 3: Is that I'm I'm gonna look for things that scare me.
Speaker 3: I'm going to look for things I think there's a
Speaker 3: little voice in the back of my head saying you
Speaker 3: can't do that. Oh shit, I'm gonna do that now.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. Boy, I hope we can curse on here.
Speaker 3: Leave that out. But like, I love going to those
Speaker 3: places also, well for two reasons.
Speaker 1: Challenging one.
Speaker 3: Because I think the more we just push the envelope
Speaker 3: a little every day or week or whatever, on what
Speaker 3: we realize we are capable of. The more we trust
Speaker 3: ourselves not to die when we do something new, and
Speaker 3: then it's not necessarily about oh, I'm so brave. It's about, no,
Speaker 3: I have enough proof that I can try new things
Speaker 3: and survive them. So I like it for that reason.
Speaker 3: And I also like it because if I go do
Speaker 3: something for the first time in front of an audience
Speaker 3: and I don't, literally all I have to do is
Speaker 3: not die, then the world then someone else out there
Speaker 3: might be able to say, well, she's okay, so let
Speaker 3: me try it. And that's exciting.
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Speaker 2: I think that's something very unique to artists though, because
Speaker 2: a lot of people, you know, they seek comfort and
Speaker 2: you know, repetition and yeah, com schedule and everything. I mean,
Speaker 2: even like, did you guys know that they pulled people.
Speaker 2: I can't name a source, but on average, people are
Speaker 2: more scared, more afraid of public speaking than death. Yeah
Speaker 2: than death.
Speaker 3: Oh, because when you die, you're not feeling anything after
Speaker 3: you're dead. Public speaking of the public speaking, you're like,
Speaker 3: I'm experiencing the horror in real time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard that. I don't know what, No, I know.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I didn't get that change.
Speaker 2: I think it's like it's like a primal thing too,
Speaker 2: you know, like we're hardwired. When you know you have
Speaker 2: all these eyes staring at him. Other people are predators,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, Oh my god, like I'm under a threat, like.
Speaker 1: A judgment implied. Yeah, but applid judgment for sure.
Speaker 3: Here's another thing that helped me so much, and this
Speaker 3: is relatively recent. I would venture to say, like maybe
Speaker 3: in the last ten years that when I started to
Speaker 3: look at acting, at acting as a service industry, rather
Speaker 3: than looking at it as like ooh, that audience is
Speaker 3: gonna judge me. Ooh, are they gonna pick me? Are
Speaker 3: they gonna choo? Are they gonna pick me? Are they
Speaker 3: gonna hate me? Are they gonna like me? I don't care?
Speaker 3: Am I gonna help them. Am I gonna take them
Speaker 3: on a journey? What can I do for them? If
Speaker 3: I walk into well, we don't get to walk into
Speaker 3: the room anymore, but if I walk in walked into
Speaker 3: an audition room when it started being about taking making
Speaker 3: sure everyone in the room was cool, like saying to them, Okay, cool,
Speaker 3: I got you. Don't worry about it. We're gonna have
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. Worst case scenario, you'll be entertained.
Speaker 3: Best case scenario, you get to go home because you
Speaker 3: pick me. Like if that's if that's a way to walk,
Speaker 3: If I can walk into a room like that, or
Speaker 3: walk onto a stage and and tell people I got you.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. I'm gonna take you on this journey.
Speaker 3: It's going to be crazy. I'll do the heavy lifting.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the night, you get to
Speaker 3: go back to your life. It's completely intact. But you
Speaker 3: went somewhere with me. I held your hand through that.
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, A, you realize you're not
Speaker 3: that big a deal. It's not all about you, and
Speaker 3: B you feel like you've given something rather than been
Speaker 3: afraid that you're not going to get something. At the
Speaker 3: end of the night.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I love I love the fact we all we all
Speaker 3: think about at a curtain call. We think of a
Speaker 3: curtain call as applause. There's also when we come out
Speaker 3: and we bow to the audience. We are bowing to them,
Speaker 3: We're bowing to that energy. We're saying thank you for
Speaker 3: letting us do this, thank you for coming on this
Speaker 3: crazy journey where you had to pretend that all this
Speaker 3: stuff was happening on stage. Thank you for your willing
Speaker 3: suspension of disbelief so we could create something really fun.
Speaker 3: So it's a it's a it's a two way street,
Speaker 3: and then it becomes a again, at least for me,
Speaker 3: it becomes so much more fun because it feels like
Speaker 3: I'm being of service rather than taking and before.
Speaker 1: So you're doing this to break into waitressing?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 1: I tell you, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's a sneaky way to do it. But here's the thing, Like,
Speaker 3: I have so much respect for servers attendance because I
Speaker 3: do not have that level of patience. I don't have
Speaker 3: the patience to say to someone, oh, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 3: didn't tell you that Spanish was a leafy green vegetable.
Speaker 3: Let me take that off of your check. I'm likewise likewise,
Speaker 3: but being able to be of service to people in
Speaker 3: general and be aware that I have a skill that
Speaker 3: can serve you. I have a skill that can make
Speaker 3: your life. I'm not going to say better, but bigger.
Speaker 3: I can expand your experience.
Speaker 1: Put on your face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then it feels a little more. It feels less
Speaker 3: self centered, you know, And it feels less because it
Speaker 3: can be. It can also be so lonely, especially when
Speaker 3: we're doing voiceover and we're in oh boy, yeah, right,
Speaker 3: it can be so lonely if you're in the.
Speaker 1: Past few years, especially with COVID and all this, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's radioactive and thank goodness, that's starting to break down
Speaker 1: a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're getting to go back into the studio again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, enough ready, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't my idea.
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, they definitely did not order that. That was
Speaker 3: not on my I did not order that off the
Speaker 3: universal menu, and I don't think anyone did. But again,
Speaker 3: going back to I don't want to you know, beat
Speaker 3: this over beat, this dead horse over the head. What
Speaker 3: was I about to say?
Speaker 1: I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I don't want to people I don't want to keep
Speaker 3: focusing too much on this. Yeah, but again, especially during
Speaker 3: that time, how useful did you feel when you could
Speaker 3: entertain people even though everybody was stuck at home? I
Speaker 3: know I did. I felt so good that people were
Speaker 3: playing games that I could help bring to them, or
Speaker 3: or even during that time, I was doing a lot
Speaker 3: of social media that felt like it was for other people,
Speaker 3: Like how good did it feel to be able to say,
Speaker 3: we are all in a terrible situation right now, and
Speaker 3: it is easy to feel so despondent and loane and
Speaker 3: just awful. How lucky are we to be in a
Speaker 3: position to take some of that away, to relieve some
Speaker 3: of that from people. That's why I ended up writing
Speaker 3: my book. It was the whole same thing. It was.
Speaker 3: I just want people to know they're not alone, Even
Speaker 3: if they are physically solo in a space, they are
Speaker 3: not alone.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, you've you've dipped your you know your hat
Speaker 1: or no, that's not right.
Speaker 3: My hat.
Speaker 1: I ruined.
Speaker 3: I ruined all of the metaphors. I apparently beat a
Speaker 3: dead horse over the mouth. I don't know what I did,
Speaker 3: What did I do? I don't know what I did?
Speaker 1: But you've worn a lot of hats I have. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing. Author, I mean, I mean you
Speaker 1: do tap dance as well.
Speaker 3: I did it. Oh no, I wasn't great at it,
Speaker 3: but I did. I was kidding, But apparently it's a
Speaker 3: little hard to do in five inch heels, so I stopped.
Speaker 3: I chose my heels. I know. Well, I'm a tiny human,
Speaker 3: so I like having a little height in the world. Also,
Speaker 3: my husband is six foot four, so rather than end
Speaker 3: up with neck problems, I just wear high heels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, good for you. Well congratulations.
Speaker 2: Do you lean into any one venture the most? Is
Speaker 2: there one that brings you the most joy?
Speaker 3: People ask me this question, and I feel like I
Speaker 3: feel like I should change the answer. But it's like
Speaker 3: picking your favorite child. I can't do it, like not
Speaker 3: that I know, because I don't have children. So maybe
Speaker 3: you could pick your favorite child. But I think it
Speaker 3: changes moment to moment depending on what I'm getting from
Speaker 3: each one. I love each medium for different reasons, and
Speaker 3: then each one is challenging for different reasons. I do
Speaker 3: find that I don't stick with any one uniformly for long,
Speaker 3: fear periods of time unless forced to.
Speaker 2: You mean, medium I mean like writing or performing, producing,
Speaker 2: I know you're I mean.
Speaker 3: I probably of all of those, I definitely love performing
Speaker 3: the most, and I don't really want to produce things
Speaker 3: that I'm not in because part of producing. To me,
Speaker 3: producing is helping people fulfill a dream, taking it from
Speaker 3: your head and then and then putting it in the world.
Speaker 3: It's producing the result of that thing, right, And so
Speaker 3: as much as I love helping other people achieve their dreams,
Speaker 3: it is so much work to put into something that
Speaker 3: might not be your own. If it's not your own,
Speaker 3: And so I began producing out of necessity because I
Speaker 3: wanted to be able to play the roles or do
Speaker 3: the projects that I wanted to.
Speaker 2: Creative control yeah yea, and not even control.
Speaker 3: But just just the freedom to be like, I have
Speaker 3: more agency to make sure this happens.
Speaker 2: I think it's okay to say control, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: But it is. It is okay, But it's not even
Speaker 3: because half the time when I'm producing, I don't have control.
Speaker 3: I'm you know, it's a whole group of people that
Speaker 3: that's way in the But the freedom to say, you know,
Speaker 3: when you're an actor, a lot of times you're waiting
Speaker 3: for the job right, you're waiting to be picked, you're
Speaker 3: waiting for the audition, all of those things. I don't
Speaker 3: like waiting. I don't have I have limited time on
Speaker 3: this earth. I gotta go. So for me, it's like cool,
Speaker 3: I know, I want to see that thing get made.
Speaker 3: Here are the skills that I have that can be
Speaker 3: applied to that. Yes, I am an actor, and I
Speaker 3: feel like I have a certain amount of talent. I
Speaker 3: also am good at raising money. I also have a
Speaker 3: lot of connections where I can author, you know, and
Speaker 3: I'm an author, so I have I have a difference.
Speaker 3: I have a particular set of skills like be abacent
Speaker 3: and so if I'm really huge skills, if I can
Speaker 3: apply any of those to help further something down the
Speaker 3: line that also gives me the joy of acting in it,
Speaker 3: then it just makes sense to me. The acting is
Speaker 3: definitely the core for me. I love performing on a
Speaker 3: very selfish level. I love and I mean I don't
Speaker 3: feel bad that this is selfish, because if you're gonna spend,
Speaker 3: if you're going to work as hard as we work,
Speaker 3: you better doing something you love.
Speaker 1: You have to like yourself a little bit too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I love I love the tabletop performances,
Speaker 3: tabletop role playing games that we do now. It's it
Speaker 3: feels like it's really come come to the forefront in
Speaker 3: the last maybe ten years, fifteen years. But because you
Speaker 3: get to spend more of your time actually acting, you know,
Speaker 3: So I love that. I love getting to improvise through
Speaker 3: the story. So you're the actor and you're the writer's
Speaker 3: room while you're playing this game.
Speaker 2: You played D and D, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Played D and D in a bunch of other game systems.
Speaker 2: Of course, she plays as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she just started like a year and a half
Speaker 3: ago or so, and she's she's she loves it now.
Speaker 3: She loves it, which is exciting. I feel like I
Speaker 3: have been so excited to just bring more and more
Speaker 3: friends into it. My best friend Gorilina Ravasa just started
Speaker 3: playing recently and she's loving it. And I I feel
Speaker 3: like it is I feel like it is a form
Speaker 3: of creativity that everyone should experience at least once. I
Speaker 3: started playing when I was eight, so I've had it
Speaker 3: in my.
Speaker 1: World.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's just such a wonderful. It
Speaker 3: teaches you so many things. It teaches you creative collaboration,
Speaker 3: it teaches you thinking on your feet. It teaches means.
Speaker 3: For some people, it teaches you basic arithmetic because we
Speaker 3: do have to add a lot of numbers together. Not
Speaker 3: that I always have D and D brain and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden I forget how to do math.
Speaker 3: But there are so many skills that we learned. When
Speaker 3: I was playing as a little girl, I was, you know,
Speaker 3: a little eight year old girl in Orange County, California.
Speaker 3: We didn't have any proof that this was the dominant
Speaker 3: genetic makeup. We thought that everybody should be blonde haired,
Speaker 3: blue eyed, look a certain way, and so it would
Speaker 3: have been very easy. Yeah, it would have been very
Speaker 3: easy for me to feel not good enough, or othered,
Speaker 3: or just something that I wasn't supposed to be. But
Speaker 3: here was this game where we were all sitting at
Speaker 3: a table, all people of all different backgrounds and different
Speaker 3: skill sets, playing people of different backgrounds and different skill sets,
Speaker 3: and it didn't matter which one of them you were
Speaker 3: one way or the other. It was possible for you
Speaker 3: to save the world. Well, wow, you could be a halfling,
Speaker 3: you could be a giant, didn't matter one way or
Speaker 3: the other. It is possible for you to roll those
Speaker 3: dice and save the world, and that feeling of getting
Speaker 3: to be with your friends and work together toward a
Speaker 3: common goal.
Speaker 1: That's not bad.
Speaker 3: No, it's not bad at all. And I kind of
Speaker 3: wish that school system was a little more like that
Speaker 3: back then, because it was very much a you know,
Speaker 3: achievement oriented rather than learning oriented. Back at least, I
Speaker 3: feel like that was much a lot of my experience,
Speaker 3: whereas with D and D you were helping each other.
Speaker 3: You were actually like, Okay, my skill set as this
Speaker 3: character is, these are my skills, and these are the
Speaker 3: things I'm bad at. Someone else at the party is
Speaker 3: good at these things and bad at these So we
Speaker 3: go together.
Speaker 1: There you go?
Speaker 3: Which is what yeah, which is what we need to
Speaker 3: do in real life? Terrible attack. I am a medical Indian.
Speaker 3: I am not a tech Indian, so I should not
Speaker 3: be the engineer. I should not be that person. But
Speaker 3: someone out there is great at that and maybe not
Speaker 3: so comfortable acting. So we're a great team.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 3: I don't have to know everything as much. Don't try to.
Speaker 1: Now you tell me. I know.
Speaker 3: But we were talking about that. We were taught we
Speaker 3: had to be straight A students.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, work, It didn't work for me.
Speaker 3: That was a lot of work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, you know, I was the way I was.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I liked it, I would get an A.
Speaker 1: If I didn't like it, I was. And I told
Speaker 1: I made the mistake of actually telling one of the
Speaker 1: good sisters I'm shooting for the lowest D possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got on your secret. That was a mistake,
Speaker 3: but your mistake was not was not like even my I.
Speaker 3: You know, my husband is one of the greatest human
Speaker 3: beings I've ever met. And we grew up complete like
Speaker 3: we had such a different mindset. Screw I was like, straight,
Speaker 3: a's got to get the A. If you don't get
Speaker 3: the A, cool, you got this A. You gotta work
Speaker 3: on the next day. You got to focus, focus, focus, learn,
Speaker 3: learn learn, study study study. And he was like, I
Speaker 3: am going to do the bare minimum I need to
Speaker 3: do to be able to get through this and then
Speaker 3: go do the things that I want to do. He
Speaker 3: is so smart, and part of his smarts where I
Speaker 3: know where I want to put my energy. Okay, I
Speaker 3: know where I want. I'm going to learn the things
Speaker 3: I think I want to learn I need to learn.
Speaker 3: I'm going to have to apply in the world I'm
Speaker 3: also going to go surfing. I'm also going to go
Speaker 3: do these things. Meanwhile, I cut class. I was cutting
Speaker 3: class to study for other classes.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, just.
Speaker 3: I mean I did not live a very racy life. Yeah,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, one, No, I remember because there were a
Speaker 3: couple of classes where I was like, this is stupid.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be able to read. This is fine. I'm
Speaker 3: going to go study for the hard one, the one
Speaker 3: that I that I'm so, I'm going to go home.
Speaker 3: I'm going to get all my life's side and I'm
Speaker 3: going to study biology or I'm going to you know
Speaker 3: whatever it was. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I so with with all that, I mean, did you
Speaker 1: have a different career path in mind? I back then?
Speaker 1: I mean, were you going to be a surgeon? Were
Speaker 1: you going to be a real estate mogul?
Speaker 3: I toyed around for a very short time with going
Speaker 3: into medicine because my parents are both doctors, right, But
Speaker 3: it didn't appeal to me on the level that I
Speaker 3: think it needed to for it to stick, and my
Speaker 3: parents were not pressuring me to go into it, which
Speaker 3: was great. I for a while I thought being an
Speaker 3: architect might be the thing, because it was artistic, but
Speaker 3: at the same time, it also applied math, and it
Speaker 3: applied a lot of skills that I was I was
Speaker 3: good at at the time. And then you know again,
Speaker 3: as soon as it opened up in my brain that
Speaker 3: I could do this for a living, that just changed everything.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, sign me up.
Speaker 3: Sign me up. Because also I can apply anything I
Speaker 3: learned to what we do, and I get to be
Speaker 3: all of those professions.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 3: Even have to go to medical school, and yet I
Speaker 3: played gazillion doctors. I saved a bunch of fake lives
Speaker 3: and no one actually died on my on my watch,
Speaker 3: and we saved medal school.
Speaker 1: So like it was always a good sign.
Speaker 3: You know, generally speaking.
Speaker 1: It's good when people don't have to die for.
Speaker 3: Your because you failed it something. Yes, no, I agree, No,
Speaker 3: so yeah that I think architecture was the closest to
Speaker 3: something that I was considering doing. But even when I
Speaker 3: went to college, you know, my my major was theater
Speaker 3: and then I had a minor in musical theater. So
Speaker 3: it wasn't like I was diversifying in a way that
Speaker 3: was particularly notable. Uh there, don't get me wrong. There
Speaker 3: are plenty of things I could have done. That would
Speaker 3: have absolutely served my career. A marketing double major would
Speaker 3: have been brilliant, would have been a very smart thing
Speaker 3: to do. Or a business double major very smart thing
Speaker 3: to do because you can apply it to your artistic career.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, once I, once I was in it,
Speaker 3: that was all I wanted to do. I did study
Speaker 3: because I knew that I would probably not enjoy waiting tables.
Speaker 3: I tried it for a little while. I was not
Speaker 3: good at it. I was not good at it. It's
Speaker 3: not my jam. Again, more power of such respects for
Speaker 3: people who do that. But I knew that, and so
Speaker 3: I studied and got certified to be a personal trainer,
Speaker 3: and then I specialized in post rehab medical exercise. So
Speaker 3: that was the closest I got to being Wow doctor
Speaker 3: ish because there's this gap between when you finish rehab
Speaker 3: from an injury and when you are at full speed
Speaker 3: as an athlete or a dancer, there's this big gap.
Speaker 1: You're in the middle.
Speaker 3: So that's where I would fill in Wow, getting people
Speaker 3: from that you can walk back to you can do
Speaker 3: a two and a half hour dance performance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not easy either. I mean I can speak
Speaker 2: from experience. I had hip surgery in college. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I was a football player and I destroyed my knee
Speaker 2: trying to play professional football in Canada, and oh man,
Speaker 2: that was the hardest part. Wasn't even the injury, it
Speaker 2: was the recovery from it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I a similar situation. So I was also a
Speaker 3: dancer in school. They decided in college that I was
Speaker 3: a dancer. It was not something I had studied for
Speaker 3: a long time, but then I went headfirst into it.
Speaker 3: And then right after I graduated, we did a performance
Speaker 3: at the Kennedy Center and then just a couple of
Speaker 3: months later, we were rehearsing a new a new partner
Speaker 3: in for me, and long story short, my knee bent sideways.
Speaker 3: That was the end of dancing. But it was also
Speaker 3: around the time that I had been studying this so
Speaker 3: I could apply it to myself and I knew all
Speaker 3: the things that I was going to all the things
Speaker 3: that I was going to say that were supportive and
Speaker 3: encouraging to all my clients, were the things I needed
Speaker 3: to say to myself because I felt like a huge
Speaker 3: part of my life was over. Yeah, I didn't know
Speaker 3: where I was going to.
Speaker 2: Have a lot of people I mean look at like,
Speaker 2: to use a movie example, like Friday Night Lights with
Speaker 2: Boobie Miles, you know, like that was such a memorable
Speaker 2: scene because it's so real. You know, yeah, he's crying
Speaker 2: in the car, what am I going to do with
Speaker 2: my life?
Speaker 1: And his dad had said he was banking on it
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is like so real for so many people, you.
Speaker 3: Know, absolutely absolutely, and it's I'm very grateful that it
Speaker 3: happened to me so early in my career because you know,
Speaker 3: in a way, it set me back on the path
Speaker 3: that I had originally intended to be on as a performer.
Speaker 3: I had never really intended to be a dancer, and
Speaker 3: I was doing it kind of because people were saying
Speaker 3: I was good at it and I should and so
Speaker 3: I fell into this. It's a very tough gig.
Speaker 1: It's a very tough run. Now.
Speaker 3: I think you ultimately you end up choreographing and ultimately
Speaker 3: end up, you know, teaching in choreographing. And a lot
Speaker 3: of people are have tremendous careers well past what they
Speaker 3: are considered like like prime dancer years. My friend Valerie
Speaker 3: Peediford is a great example of that. She was in
Speaker 3: the original Foss and she's like, she's an extraordinary woman
Speaker 3: who also does TV and film and all everything. So
Speaker 3: she's been doing it her whole life, so it is
Speaker 3: a thing that can be done. But for me, what
Speaker 3: I had wanted to do was act and sing, and
Speaker 3: the dancing was like incidental to it, but it wasn't
Speaker 3: the main focus. And the first audition I had after
Speaker 3: I could actually bend my knee again was for a
Speaker 3: director named Mary Zimmerman, who I went on to do
Speaker 3: eighteen shows with eighteen productions, and that kind of set
Speaker 3: me back on the path of performing and acting.
Speaker 1: What was the show?
Speaker 3: The show was called Mirror of the Invisible World. So
Speaker 3: Mary Mary does a lot of adaptations of ancient literature,
Speaker 3: so this one was based on a twelfth century It
Speaker 3: was an ancient Persian poem about a king who he
Speaker 3: is when he is the prince, and then he's about
Speaker 3: to become the king. He opens a door to the
Speaker 3: castle and he finds the portraits of seven princesses and
Speaker 3: he has to learn a lesson from each one of
Speaker 3: them before he's allowed to be king. And so we
Speaker 3: told all of these stories at the seven as the
Speaker 3: seven Princesses we played all of the characters, and it
Speaker 3: was very physical and very poetic and very satisfying. Uh.
Speaker 3: And because it was very physical theater, it scratched that
Speaker 3: itch of the dance, but in a way that made
Speaker 3: more sense to me as a as an actor, and
Speaker 3: in a way that didn't make me feel like I
Speaker 3: was struggling to catch up.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I've been very lucky in my especially in
Speaker 3: my theater career, to get to do some really exceptionally
Speaker 3: cool stuff. The first Broadway show I did was with Mary.
Speaker 3: It was a play called Metamorphoses, which was based on
Speaker 3: Ovid's Metamorphoses.
Speaker 2: Oh my God, my theater profess. That was his favorite plays.
Speaker 3: That I'm here. I'm the cover girl on that book,
Speaker 3: on that play. But it was set in a pool
Speaker 3: of water, So the entire higher show was in and
Speaker 3: around water, and so that became member be here all week.
Speaker 3: But but it made such a difference in terms of
Speaker 3: what we were capable of doing and the emotion we
Speaker 3: were capable of evoking in people. There was a scene
Speaker 3: spoiler alert if you haven't read the play and you
Speaker 3: plan on going to see the production of it. There
Speaker 3: was a scene where one of my characters, because we
Speaker 3: were playing multiple characters, gets found out by someone close
Speaker 3: to her and they tried to drown her and that's
Speaker 3: exactly what happened on them. We could literally do it.
Speaker 3: We could literally do the Okay, this is a tiny
Speaker 3: woman being attacked and being and so we were able
Speaker 3: to create that fear and that visceral reaction in the
Speaker 3: audience because we had the water.
Speaker 1: Okay acting.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I call it method, but it
Speaker 3: was definitely It just made it. You know. There were
Speaker 3: also just simple things like if you moved, if you
Speaker 3: moved your arm like this, it wasn't just your arm
Speaker 3: that was moving, it was the water dripping off. And
Speaker 3: if you flung your arm, water would go across the stage.
Speaker 3: So there was this real ability to there was just
Speaker 3: a whole other element. There was an eleventh cast member
Speaker 3: and it was the water m So so yeah, getting
Speaker 3: to do that and getting to do you know, all
Speaker 3: the other shows that I did with Mary and.
Speaker 2: Where was this all over the world?
Speaker 3: That one was that one. We started in Chicago, then
Speaker 3: we went we went Chicago, Berkeley, Seattle, Los Angeles at
Speaker 3: the Taper and then we went off Broadway and then
Speaker 3: to Broadway.
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, that's a nice path.
Speaker 3: It was a great path, but it was also here's
Speaker 3: again circling all the way back. It was an example
Speaker 3: of I'm gonna say yes, and then I'm going to
Speaker 3: keep saying yes. When we started that show, we were
Speaker 3: making like two hundred and ten dollars a week and
Speaker 3: we hadn't figured out how to really heat the pool
Speaker 3: and it was in Chicago, so you know, you can
Speaker 3: figure out how hard that was. But that was the
Speaker 3: show that hit me on the inside and the cast
Speaker 3: and everything felt so right, so you stick. So I
Speaker 3: stuck with it, and I stuck with it, and then
Speaker 3: that became the one that went to Broadway. You know,
Speaker 3: so very much was following my heart and following the fun. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I yeah, there's so many, so many cool things
Speaker 3: that I've really gotten to do that came out of
Speaker 3: a not saying no to myself and then be waiting
Speaker 3: to see what's gonna is this gonna fill me up?
Speaker 3: I've had to take plenty of jobs that didn't fill
Speaker 3: me up. We all do, you know, but but it's
Speaker 3: it's fun to again having that roof over your head
Speaker 3: again and not be underestimated the value of that. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I think of I did an opera, which
Speaker 3: was not something that I was. I was a music
Speaker 3: theater performer, but I hadn't been opera trained per se really,
Speaker 3: and I didn't.
Speaker 1: Know, are you a soprano rano? Call?
Speaker 3: It depends on like if it's early in the morning
Speaker 3: and I'm in Vegas for a week and it's early
Speaker 3: in the morning, I'm abased, gotcha? But yeah, So because
Speaker 3: I went to the audition instead of being like, there's
Speaker 3: nowhere why would I do this audition? I'm not an
Speaker 3: opera singer. But it looked like a cool project and
Speaker 3: it was with a theater company that I loved and
Speaker 3: a director that I loved. So I'm like, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: at least do the audition. And it worked out, and
Speaker 3: so I got to work with Tony Kushner and Maurice Sendak,
Speaker 3: the late children's author who designed all of the sets,
Speaker 3: in the costumes everything was based on. It was very cool. Wow,
Speaker 3: all because I didn't say no to myself.
Speaker 1: Wow. Right, there's power in that.
Speaker 3: I think there really is.
Speaker 2: You're clearly very passionate about stage acting. I'm curious how
Speaker 2: you feel when you're on a television or film.
Speaker 3: Set, a whole different kind of excitement, a whole different
Speaker 3: kind of excitement, I feel like. So I tried to
Speaker 3: explain this to new actors who aren't familiar with the
Speaker 3: different the difference that if you are theater trained, if
Speaker 3: you are used to the theater, being on television or
Speaker 3: on film feels on a set feels like a tech rehearsal.
Speaker 3: It is a full day tech rehearsal because a lot
Speaker 3: of your time is spent waiting for tech, and then
Speaker 3: you have this limited amount of time to get the
Speaker 3: scene right, and you might have to do this portion
Speaker 3: of the scene, you might have to do the whole scene.
Speaker 3: You might have to do it ten times in order
Speaker 3: for the boom to not be in the shot, all
Speaker 3: of that, but you have to do it at your
Speaker 3: top ability because that might be the shot that might
Speaker 3: be the thing. And so tech rehearsal for me in
Speaker 3: theater was always one of my favorite things because it
Speaker 3: was when you first got to be on stage with
Speaker 3: all of the elements and everybody was working together and
Speaker 3: we were all there figuring out these problems. And I
Speaker 3: feel like that on a TV set when everyone's there
Speaker 3: kind of working together for a common goal, and sometimes
Speaker 3: it's the simplest shot and sometimes it's the most complicated shot,
Speaker 3: but when you get it, it feels so good. And
Speaker 3: when you're on a set where, like you said, from
Speaker 3: the top down, people are exhibiting the kind of I
Speaker 3: don't want to say leadership, what's the word. I'm looking for, enthusiasm, care,
Speaker 3: the care that they take of each other. Marishka Hargatee
Speaker 3: is like, hands down, one of the most incredible number
Speaker 3: one is on the call sheet in the history of mankind.
Speaker 3: She has been the lead on Law and Order SVU
Speaker 3: for the twenty something years that it's been on TV.
Speaker 3: It was my first TV job, and then I went
Speaker 3: back twenty years later and did a show, did an episode,
Speaker 3: and she is the same, incredibly caring, takes care of
Speaker 3: the other actors. She knows she has a certain amount
Speaker 3: of power on that set, so she uses it for
Speaker 3: the common good, like that feeling. When you have that,
Speaker 3: when you have that energy there, or when you are
Speaker 3: lucky enough to get to be the number one on
Speaker 3: the call sheet and you can provide that for other people,
Speaker 3: then it really Yeah, it's just it's magic. When you
Speaker 3: can do that, and it's magic when you can be
Speaker 3: there for another actor who has to go somewhere hard,
Speaker 3: When you get to be there for their coverage and
Speaker 3: you get to feed them what they need and you
Speaker 3: see it, then you get to appreciate their virtuosity in
Speaker 3: those tiny moments. I love that will.
Speaker 2: Need to be there for their coverage. I've worked with
Speaker 2: actors who don't even yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Know, and I'm you know, I'm not a fan of that.
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of that. I suppose I would
Speaker 3: understand if it was a particularly grueling schedule or they
Speaker 3: were tight on time and they needed you to run
Speaker 3: back to your trailer to change or whatever. But I
Speaker 3: have not been a fan of the times I've been
Speaker 3: on set where people are like, cool, I'm off camera,
Speaker 3: I'm out of here. Yeah, And it happens. It does happen, unfortunately,
Speaker 3: very often. But that's just not the kind of person
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: Is there an equivalent and voiceover that that happens? Does
Speaker 2: anybody record their lines and like, I got to go
Speaker 2: do something else?
Speaker 3: You guys, we're already recording solo most of the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, well, I'm referring to like when you guys,
Speaker 2: you know, back in the nineties, eighties.
Speaker 3: We've been in the room together for animation in the
Speaker 3: last couple of decades too.
Speaker 2: But no, I'm referring more to like, you know, like
Speaker 2: I don't know, Dark Ducker, Like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like in my head, like the greeny footage
Speaker 2: of when you guys are all standing in a circle.
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to make you feel no, no,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying it's definitely changed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, Well I prefer having other people there
Speaker 1: acting is reacting, Yeah, at least half of it's reacting.
Speaker 3: It's so much more fun when.
Speaker 1: Other people are oh god, yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think the recently, gosh, recently, I think the
Speaker 3: only place I've gotten to do that where we were
Speaker 3: all in the same room were a couple of episodes
Speaker 3: of The Loudhouse Nickelodeon, and all the kids were there,
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, this is great, oh awesome. Ye
Speaker 3: we're all here together, we're doing a thing together. This
Speaker 3: is amazing.
Speaker 1: But it feels like a tree good stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, it feels more like it feels more like
Speaker 3: the It doesn't feel like the norm anymore, for sure.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if that's the case necessarily with
Speaker 3: all even I even am recording right now, I'm recording
Speaker 3: a movie for a large studio, and I think I'm
Speaker 3: like second lead from what I can tell.
Speaker 1: And do you do you sit there and count the lines? Yes,
Speaker 1: you do.
Speaker 3: No, it's about like the script and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I see where this character is in the story. But
Speaker 3: but even that I'm recording by myself.
Speaker 2: How did you record for Overwatch? So low?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean solo in the sense of the actor
Speaker 3: you had, you know, we had the voice director there,
Speaker 3: writers and all of that, but it was yeah, it
Speaker 3: was solow. I do remember there being some of the
Speaker 3: animated the animated shorts that they did. They had some
Speaker 3: actors do that together. I distinctly remember them showing some
Speaker 3: behind the scenes footage of Darren de Paul and the
Speaker 3: actor opposite him and his animated short for reyn Hart.
Speaker 3: I remember seeing them kind of playing off each other.
Speaker 2: So when was the first that I just had this
Speaker 2: experience myself. I was telling you Befre before we started
Speaker 2: recording that I just did this anime that premiered a
Speaker 2: couple of months ago, and it was weird for me
Speaker 2: because obviously we're recorded alone. And then at the premiere,
Speaker 2: you know, we did like a question and answer at
Speaker 2: the end, and it was the first time I ever
Speaker 2: met you know, the other actors.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: Been And it was literally like walking up on stage
Speaker 2: and like hi, ye.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I killed you in the second act.
Speaker 3: Literally literally for me in my voice over, because I
Speaker 3: started voice over relatively late. Like Overwatch was my second game.
Speaker 2: It's not about second gig.
Speaker 3: Not about second gig. I mean, it came after decades
Speaker 3: of theaters. You know, we're working in the theater and
Speaker 3: working in television. So it wasn't like overnight success. But
Speaker 3: but uh, we were very lucky because Blizzard put together
Speaker 3: a sort of cast party celebration after blizz Con that
Speaker 3: first year, so a lot of us got to meet
Speaker 3: in a way that most voice actors don't get to
Speaker 3: meet their cast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: And now I feel like it's becoming more and more
Speaker 3: of a thing where we we do celebrate. We do
Speaker 3: get to have a premiere, and we do get to
Speaker 3: have a cast party, or we do get we get
Speaker 3: to go to conventions together, and we need to hang
Speaker 3: out with each other and become friends that way.
Speaker 2: I was just about to say, I think that's one
Speaker 2: the cool thing about conventions. I mean, it's really cool
Speaker 2: for me to see, you know, you with your peers
Speaker 2: and people that you've known for years and decades and
Speaker 2: done shows with and everything like that. But not only that,
Speaker 2: and I've mentioned this on the podcast before, but I
Speaker 2: really like the atmosphere of a podcast because we're in
Speaker 2: a studio, you know, and we're sitting down together and
Speaker 2: talking together. Might not be performing, well, we're going to
Speaker 2: perform in a little bit.
Speaker 3: I mean, it feels a little bit like cheating. I
Speaker 3: was telling my friend Leanna Maria Riva the other day
Speaker 3: because she has a podcast, and I went on and
Speaker 3: I was like, it feels a little bit like we're
Speaker 3: cheating because really we're just making an excuse for us
Speaker 3: to hang out and talk. But it's work. I love it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's what I want my whole career to
Speaker 3: be at this point now. I just want to make
Speaker 3: cool things with people I love.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well it's like you said earlier, you know,
Speaker 2: like what people consider fun, Like I consider this really fun,
Speaker 2: you know, me meeting people industry professionals, you know, like
Speaker 2: hanging out with your friends, meeting different people that I
Speaker 2: look up to.
Speaker 3: It's fun and conventions. I know they're not for everyone,
Speaker 3: but they're one of my favorite things on the planet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3: I love them for so many reasons.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's always interesting for me because I've
Speaker 1: been doing this, what I've been doing for so long.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll have three generations. Sure, you know. I
Speaker 1: have a guy my age, then his forty year old son,
Speaker 1: then that guy's forty four year old little girl, you know,
Speaker 1: and they all know Dark Wing or Pooh or Tigers,
Speaker 1: you know, And so I just love it, you know.
Speaker 1: I like to see those little faces light up, and also.
Speaker 3: The older faces because you're such a part of their life.
Speaker 3: Oh you know, You've gotten to be a part of
Speaker 3: their a part of their upbringing, a part of them
Speaker 3: raising their own kids, something that they get to share
Speaker 3: in the family. It's been the same for video games
Speaker 3: for me, getting to see families that share their love
Speaker 3: of the story. Yeah, they don't play together, they have
Speaker 3: the Lord that they can get together, the Lord that
Speaker 3: they can connect over or or the shorts or the whatever.
Speaker 3: And yeah, especially again with Overwatcher, with Apex Legends or
Speaker 3: with some other games where there is a certain amount
Speaker 3: of representation that people haven't necessarily seen. In Overwatch, my
Speaker 3: character is not only South Asian, but she's on the spectrum.
Speaker 3: So there have been a lot of occasions where I
Speaker 3: have met families who have said this brought us together
Speaker 3: in a way that they couldn't necessarily understand, because now
Speaker 3: we could all center around this experience or center around them.
Speaker 1: So many friends on the spectrum over the years, Right,
Speaker 1: It's just a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: And again, conventions such a perfect place for that, for
Speaker 3: neurodiverse people of all different flavors, all different neurospicy folks. Yes,
Speaker 3: and getting to I say this all the time, and
Speaker 3: it sounds so pithy, but I really do believe it.
Speaker 3: I think conventions are a place to go to celebrate
Speaker 3: the things you love and then be celebrated for loving
Speaker 3: the things you love.
Speaker 1: Oh, there you go.
Speaker 3: Like how they take care of each other, How cos
Speaker 3: players get so excited, or someone sees a cosplay from
Speaker 3: their favorite anime and they go running across the room
Speaker 3: to ask this person about that, or they're the meetups
Speaker 3: and the fan art and all of this wonderful stuff
Speaker 3: that brings people together in a way that we don't
Speaker 3: really have in many other places in the world.
Speaker 1: And so often you'll you'll see people that you know
Speaker 1: that they're just you can tell, you know. Again with
Speaker 1: the different folks that are on the spectrum, you know,
Speaker 1: the parents will be there and the kid just opens
Speaker 1: up and just just pours it all, all the love
Speaker 1: out and they'll say, gosh, she's really really got a
Speaker 1: lot to say, and because he usually doesn't in this
Speaker 1: and that, and it just makes my day. It just
Speaker 1: makes me.
Speaker 3: So happy and just and again on a on a
Speaker 3: on a selfish or not maybe not selfish level, that's
Speaker 3: not the right way to put it, but it is
Speaker 3: definitely fuel. It is definitely fuel to say cool, on
Speaker 3: those days when I don't want to get out of bed,
Speaker 3: or I don't want to do the thing or whatever
Speaker 3: it is, someone out there needs me to get up
Speaker 3: and do the thing, because someone out there is going
Speaker 3: to have that experience that that kid or that adult
Speaker 3: or that whoever it is, somebody out there needs it
Speaker 3: and it's going to mean something to them, even if
Speaker 3: to me, even if to me today it's just a job,
Speaker 3: to someone else, it's way bigger than that. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: I love conventions. They really fuel It did take me
Speaker 3: a while. It did take me a while to learn
Speaker 3: how to do them without losing my voice because I
Speaker 3: get so excited and so it took me a while. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it took it took me a while to be like, Okay, listen,
Speaker 3: you got to be able to do the job that
Speaker 3: gets you the conventions in order to be able to
Speaker 3: do the conventions. So let's let's let's save a little energy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's yeah. But they but yeah, but that's
Speaker 3: a different that's a different set of skills.
Speaker 1: It's it's the same as I was just preferring to
Speaker 1: the voice.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, So I didn't treat it as such until
Speaker 3: I clocked it, you know, until I clock Oh, you
Speaker 3: know what, you're speaking eight nine hours a day here.
Speaker 3: You got to treat this like you're in rehearsal for
Speaker 3: a Broadway show, because I can do eight shows a week.
Speaker 3: But being at a convention and not necessarily managing your
Speaker 3: energy levels because I get really excited. I know, it's
Speaker 3: a shock, right that I would.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get now, I'm so bored.
Speaker 3: All the time, and so boring it's really sad. I
Speaker 3: really like to Yeah, I really like to cover my emotions.
Speaker 3: You can't even say that without laughing. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: had to start being a little a little smarter about it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: But but if I'm going to spend it, I mean,
Speaker 3: if I'm going to spend that energy on someone, it's
Speaker 3: going to be someone. She's coming to my table, and
Speaker 3: even if they're not there to get anything signed or
Speaker 3: anything like that, I want to hear their story. I
Speaker 3: want to I want to hear what touches them and
Speaker 3: what excites them and what lights them up. And that
Speaker 3: conventions are such a perfect place for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's for sure certain Yeah, yeah, I've said
Speaker 1: it a hundred times. Where nowadays we're almost always alone
Speaker 1: when you're recording. Yeah, and so you really don't get
Speaker 1: much because you know, the producer he's doing the director's
Speaker 1: or she's doing that, and the recording engineer couldn't care
Speaker 1: less no slam in there. But it's like you don't
Speaker 1: get any feedback, you know. But when you get out
Speaker 1: there and you talk to the people, you know, the
Speaker 1: one and then people will they'll name episodes, you know,
Speaker 1: the fourteenth episode of goof Troop where you were, and
Speaker 1: I'll go, wow, okay, yeah, good old fourteenth.
Speaker 3: Well, they'll quote lines back to me that I don't
Speaker 3: remember recording.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Love that so much. When they're like, what's your favorite line,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not going to tell you because I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's in the game yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I might have recorded this and it might not
Speaker 3: be in the game yet. It's entirely possible.
Speaker 1: I've always said no, no, no, no, what's your favorite
Speaker 1: and then they'll say, well, blah, oh my god, that's fine.
Speaker 3: It's the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I definitely have some favorites, so I definitely clock.
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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of voice lines, to play a little game
Speaker 2: on this podcast.
Speaker 1: A game game.
Speaker 2: It's the voice swap game. Where is how it works
Speaker 2: is Jim will say one of his character lines, say
Speaker 2: Winnie the Pooh or darkwing Ducker.
Speaker 3: Who so exciting am I going to say the lines
Speaker 3: of a adorable bear with no pants on? As an
Speaker 3: Indian architect?
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, have you been reading aheadating.
Speaker 3: A student business?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 3: I'm just jumping ahead, baby, you can't stop.
Speaker 2: Me, all right, so I don't even have to explain it.
Speaker 2: And then we'll do vice versa.
Speaker 3: Okay, great, I love it.
Speaker 2: And then if you could just say the name of
Speaker 2: the character's.
Speaker 3: Voice, absolutely, okay, all right, are you ready?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, all right. Since you brought
Speaker 1: up Pooh, I will have to if only he had
Speaker 1: a few sayings to Okay, I got one. Would you
Speaker 1: please pass the honey?
Speaker 3: Would you please pass the honey? That's symmetra from her.
Speaker 1: Yes, she was very symmetrical, very.
Speaker 3: Very elegant, Yes, very elegant and very matter of fact.
Speaker 2: What's her ultimately a little.
Speaker 3: Hoti yeah bottom, which in Hindi means this is the
Speaker 3: ultimate reality y that is exactly how you say it? Yes, yes, okay,
Speaker 3: also has she has an English version of her ultimate
Speaker 3: which is reality bends to my will.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: You got to do that one. You got to do
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: Reality bends to my will? That always has a button.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of who characters would actually say that.
Speaker 2: Who's the most evil character that you play?
Speaker 1: The most evil? Probably the terror Mask?
Speaker 2: Terror Mask?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in while he was in? Okay, what
Speaker 1: was the name of that video game? I don't play
Speaker 1: video games.
Speaker 3: That's all right.
Speaker 2: Can you do it as scary?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, give me the line again, reality bends to
Speaker 1: my will, Reality bends to my will.
Speaker 3: That's scary. I like it.
Speaker 1: So be pretty bad. I had had to get that
Speaker 1: in there, of.
Speaker 3: Course, clearly. Okay, what else? What else? Give me one?
Speaker 4: Okay, I have a good character to pull from.
Speaker 1: Okay, how about how about Bunker Spunker's d Bobcat bring it.
Speaker 1: I'll have you know that I am the very first
Speaker 1: tune detective in all of Tnetown.
Speaker 3: I have you know that I am the very first
Speaker 3: tune detective in all of Tontown. That is Medusa from
Speaker 3: Stray Gods.
Speaker 1: She is not she's a little punkin.
Speaker 3: She's well, here's what's fun about Medusa. So Stray Gods
Speaker 3: was a musical video game it was a musical role
Speaker 3: playing game. So instead of so if you can imagine,
Speaker 3: you know, obviously branching dialogue and all of these things,
Speaker 3: we had branching music. So the decisions you would make
Speaker 3: as a player would affect which part of the song
Speaker 3: you heard, which lines in the song, which music, all
Speaker 3: of that, and so Medusa my m My first recording
Speaker 3: session was the first recording session they did with any
Speaker 3: of the actors, and the music that they gave me
Speaker 3: was like some dude plugging it out on a piano,
Speaker 3: and so we didn't really have a sense of what
Speaker 3: it was going to sound like. So they were very
Speaker 3: very lovely about, like, well, what do you want to do,
Speaker 3: why do you bring us bring bring to this what
Speaker 3: you want to bring to it? And so I asked
Speaker 3: if I could have her monster sort of like what
Speaker 3: her speaking voice and when she was in kind of
Speaker 3: that that ensnaring place that she would that she would
Speaker 3: sound like she just did, but when she was hypnotizing
Speaker 3: people to be able to lure them in, she would
Speaker 3: have full like sirens song musical legit. So I got
Speaker 3: to flip back and forth between those and again use
Speaker 3: the music theater enough for.
Speaker 1: This and Medusa. So tell me who does your hair?
Speaker 3: Athena did my hair because she forced me to have
Speaker 3: those snakes in my head. I see, it's all Athena's fault.
Speaker 3: I know. Okay, let me think of what. Okay, who else? Oh,
Speaker 3: here's a fun one. If you don't like what you see,
Speaker 3: put a bag over your head.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay.
Speaker 4: If you don't like what you see, put a bag
Speaker 4: over your head and bounce on out of here. Tfne
Speaker 4: Now I can still see you.
Speaker 1: Goodbye? Okay.
Speaker 3: Can I just tell you this is one of the
Speaker 3: reasons I love what we do is because I am
Speaker 3: feeling the delight at hearing these voices that that children
Speaker 3: and everybody else is hearing. I remember being with you
Speaker 3: in the bar of our hotel at MCM London and
Speaker 3: there was a little girl or there was a family
Speaker 3: and the parent came over to you, and we're like,
Speaker 3: our little girl really loves Winnie the Pooh. Do you
Speaker 3: think you could maybe come over and talk to her
Speaker 3: and just watch them? Oh my god, Winnie the Poo
Speaker 3: is in front of me. It's right there. And that
Speaker 3: feeling I get it too. I get it.
Speaker 1: We all get it.
Speaker 3: When it's something it became a part of us, whether
Speaker 3: when we were young or now. And if we feel that,
Speaker 3: we know someone else is feeling it. So we got
Speaker 3: to go do the thing. That's the message of today's podcast.
Speaker 3: Go do the thing. Yes, do the thing.
Speaker 1: You know the thing.
Speaker 3: You know that the thing is. Go do the thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about being right, don't worry about being wrong,
Speaker 3: don't worry about being great at it. Go do the thing.
Speaker 1: And not the one and the fantastic for.
Speaker 3: No, don't do that. That's a that's a whole different
Speaker 3: kind of doing that. We are not endorsing wrong thing.
Speaker 3: I mean I shouldn't say we aren't endorsing I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know who's listening to this podcast. So whatever
Speaker 3: floats your boat.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you all good?
Speaker 2: Yeah children listening?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, would hope not. There's some stuff we've talked
Speaker 3: about it I would edit out.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, we're talking about cartoons. No kids,
Speaker 1: just kidding's.
Speaker 2: I think most of our audience is like in the thirties.
Speaker 2: It's like probably it's even thirty five, but it's skewed
Speaker 2: more to my kids.
Speaker 3: The twenty eight we are grown kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty eight to thirty two. I think the prime
Speaker 2: all right, cool, Yeah, you know they have a little
Speaker 2: kids grow up.
Speaker 1: I don't want about about Yeah you got the one,
Speaker 1: you got the idea.
Speaker 2: But thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 3: Really appreciate you guys. So much fun to talk with you.
Speaker 2: It's great fun to.
Speaker 3: Get a chance to say bless you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Do you have anything you need to announce or on.
Speaker 2: When this is coming out in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Wonderful? I do then, Oh I'm so excited. Okay, So
Speaker 3: I have a charity event that I put on every
Speaker 3: year called the Puppy Roll where we playpy role like
Speaker 3: the Puppy Bowl, but not the Puppy Roll is this
Speaker 3: one And for this particular charity event, I and familiar
Speaker 3: faces from stage and screen will come play D and
Speaker 3: D as our dogs. Interesting We play our dogs in
Speaker 3: this game, and we do it in order to raise
Speaker 3: awareness and funds for an organization called pet co Love,
Speaker 3: which is a five oh one C three that supports
Speaker 3: animal rescue efforts and welfare nationwide. They are incredible. I
Speaker 3: met them years ago when I went to a Red
Speaker 3: I was on the Red carpet for an awards show,
Speaker 3: and they brought puppies to the red carpet and I
Speaker 3: was like, this must be required from now on, all
Speaker 3: red carpets must have puppies. So, yeah, we do this
Speaker 3: every year. This year we are doing it at gen Con.
Speaker 3: So we will have a live audience of about five
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty people along with streaming it worldwide, and
Speaker 3: so we will have the donations coming in from there.
Speaker 3: We will have the donations coming in hopefully from the audience,
Speaker 3: and there may or may not be live puppies involved, and.
Speaker 1: There may or may not be a lot of newspapers
Speaker 1: on the ground.
Speaker 3: There may or may not be anything impossible.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, forget the newspapers on the ground.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So if you're going to gen Con, please grab
Speaker 3: your tickets. It's going to be on August first, which
Speaker 3: is Saturday, ten thirty to two thirty at the D
Speaker 3: and D Tower, which is the Indiana Repertory Theater. And
Speaker 3: if you are not sorry ten thirty to two thirty
Speaker 3: Eastern Standard time because time zones, and if you are
Speaker 3: not going to gen Con, then at that time it
Speaker 3: will be streaming on my YouTube channel along with the
Speaker 3: support of the good folks at Dungeons and Dragons, and
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a wonderful time. I shall be reprising
Speaker 3: my role as our late dog Charlie aka Charle b
Speaker 3: bargainter Bard and Biscuitologist and the mayor of Dogo, our
Speaker 3: and our new dog Chili. We just got him, and
Speaker 3: he's a trouble maker.
Speaker 1: Oh my, I'm Chili, are you? I could say, I
Speaker 1: think I'm chilly from the streets.
Speaker 3: I'm from the mean streets of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: The mean streets too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom promoted me to Senior nap manager and
Speaker 3: Minister of Treats.
Speaker 1: Look out into a Minister of treats. Well done, ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Oh my goodness, thank you, thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for being wonderful.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it, and thank you all for watching.
Speaker 2: Once again, I say this every episode, but honestly, this
Speaker 2: podcast couldn't happen without you. Really appreciate the support everybody watching,
Speaker 2: all of our Patreons, subscribe subscribers. I can't talk all
Speaker 2: of you. All of our Patreon subscribers really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: And if you like this content, be sure to like
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Speaker 2: And with all that said and done, one more thing
Speaker 2: almost forgot about live tour with fan Expo. Jim. We're
Speaker 2: doing the podcast live a live audience with partnership with
Speaker 2: fan Expo's really cool.
Speaker 1: It's a great vibe it. Uh, you know, come and participate,
Speaker 1: won't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the feel of the live audience. I
Speaker 2: feel like it puts me a little on edge.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like exciting. You know, I can't screw up like
Speaker 2: I just did, fumbling my words.
Speaker 3: Or if you do, you got a lot of people
Speaker 3: in front of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'll be there to enjoy it exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but beautiful. The next day's coming up for it
Speaker 2: if you want to come and see it live. Are
Speaker 2: in Chicago August fourteenth and sixteenth, Toronto August twenty seventh
Speaker 2: to the thirtieth, Dallas September eleventh to the thirteenth, and
Speaker 2: San Francisco November twenty seventh to the twenty ninth. We're
Speaker 2: still working on Anaheim. We're not sure. I don't even
Speaker 2: know if this episode is going to come out before
Speaker 2: Anaheim ins in a couple of weeks, but if it is,
Speaker 2: then be sure to be there. And we're adding more
Speaker 2: to her dates as the year goes on, so be
Speaker 2: sure to check that out. And with all that said
Speaker 2: and downe once again, I'm producer Chris Mister, Jim Cummings
Speaker 2: and Angelie Mamani. Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 2: We will see you in the next one.
Speaker 1: There you go, nice, Thank you, thank you. Our podcast
Speaker 1: has partnered with the largest comic con in North America,
Speaker 1: fan Expo, the Juggernaut. We're touring all over North America live,
Speaker 1: so get your tickets and come be a part of
Speaker 1: the live audience. It'll be fun. Go to fanexpohq dot
Speaker 1: com for the tickets. We'll see you in a city
Speaker 1: near you or a little bit away, but you can drive.
Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in to Tuned In with Jim Cummings