Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Poker Go Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Donny Peters. His name is Tim Duckworth.
Speaker 1: It is one am exactly on Thursday, June twelfth. Baby, listen.
Speaker 1: This is one of those nights you live for when
Speaker 1: you love to cover poker. You love to be here
Speaker 1: at the World Series of Poker. Absolutely iconic night, historic night,
Speaker 1: incredible stuff. And guess what, I wasn't here for most
Speaker 1: of it. Bummed, absolutely freaking bummed that I had to
Speaker 1: go handle duties elsewhere. But I did make it back
Speaker 1: for half of the history of the night. As you
Speaker 1: guys might have heard by now, we got Nick Shulman
Speaker 1: winning the ten K no limit Duce to seven Championship.
Speaker 1: We got Jason Kuhn winning the fifty K high Roller.
Speaker 1: Truly incredible stuff there from both of those legendary players.
Speaker 1: Of course, we have other bracelets that were awarded, or
Speaker 1: at least one other bracelet that was awarded. Jason Dwong
Speaker 1: won the fifteen hundred dollars limit hold him epic comeback
Speaker 1: for him in that one, and then a whole bunch
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Speaker 1: three K freeze out we got I don't know what else.
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Speaker 1: But we'll get to all of it. Of course, you
Speaker 1: were here all night. How you doing.
Speaker 2: Of course that was here all night. I'm committed to
Speaker 2: the WSFP. Unlike some people over here, I'm good. I'm
Speaker 2: a little tired. I'm being tired with last few days.
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Speaker 2: some big moments, and it's kind of always cool to be,
Speaker 2: you know, on the ryo watching along and seeing how
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Speaker 1: the take of one of the absolute greatest to ever
Speaker 1: do it. Tops two hundred and thirty three entries to
Speaker 1: win four hundred and ninety seven thousand dollars, his seventh
Speaker 1: gold bracelet, third time win the ten K Nolan Mitduce
Speaker 1: to seven Championship. I mean, this guy is just absolutely
Speaker 1: positively one of the best ever. He has to be,
Speaker 1: absolutely has to be. I listen, sure, maybe he doesn't
Speaker 1: have as many bracelets as Helmuth or Ivy, right, but
Speaker 1: Shulman is a legend, he's an icon, he's a goat,
Speaker 1: and he's still doing it and he's gonna continue to
Speaker 1: do it. I don't think this guy is slowing down
Speaker 1: anytime soon. He joins the extremely rarefied air of players
Speaker 1: at the World Series of Poker to win the same
Speaker 1: event three times. We also got Adam Friedman did it
Speaker 1: in the Dealer's Choice. We got some people that I'll
Speaker 1: put an asterisk next one. Go ahead and tell me
Speaker 1: who are they.
Speaker 2: The legendary Johnny Mosh and ste On good stu Ivers
Speaker 2: for sure counts.
Speaker 1: Johnny moss is kind of counts. Did he did he
Speaker 1: get a bracelet? Yes? Or no? You answered me, well,
Speaker 1: I mean no, he didn't. He gotta he got a
Speaker 1: cup or a glass or something.
Speaker 2: Okay, first year was technically an ice bucket. Yes, that's yeah,
Speaker 2: it was an ice po We gotta get we gotta
Speaker 2: get more on the pod to talk about. I don't
Speaker 2: even know if anyone would know it would be more.
Speaker 1: Though, No, it would be mister Bannion himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it went from selling cop of silver
Speaker 2: plate back to a brass but he was retroactively given
Speaker 2: a braces so it has to count.
Speaker 1: You have to rub that asterix out. Buddy, who else
Speaker 1: you got? You got any more? You're the stat guy
Speaker 1: forgetting to two goats, two legends.
Speaker 2: Someone that's won our favorite event three times, mister Brian
Speaker 2: Rass PVC Champions, Grinder, that's the favorite event, by the way,
Speaker 2: should be uh the Grinder PPC champion as well. You
Speaker 2: said Adam Freed, right, yeah, but wait, Grinder did three times? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's one more. Now this one you can put an
Speaker 2: asterix on.
Speaker 1: There's one more. There's one more. God, I, what's this
Speaker 1: like the tag team event from the seventies back then,
Speaker 1: So it wasn't a tag team event. It was a
Speaker 1: mixed up ye whatever. Please get it right, Please get
Speaker 1: it right.
Speaker 2: For the people we're trying to educate, these people at home,
Speaker 2: you're calling it.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, we have give me the list, Give me
Speaker 1: the list right now, but don't name this other person.
Speaker 2: Okay, list Johnny Moss, ju Wanga, Yeah, Adam Friedman, Brian Rast,
Speaker 2: Brian Rasts, Michaels, grind Or Grin and obviously now Nick Shulman.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's one more. Yeah, what's the event that
Speaker 1: will give it away? What's the event? Five Codstud I
Speaker 1: god idea? Bill Boyd? Yeah, alright, isn't this the one
Speaker 1: where they yeah, this is this is for sure the
Speaker 1: asterisk one because about this one, but that's not the
Speaker 1: why of the asterix.
Speaker 2: Ninety seventy one, Bill Boyd won the thousand dollars buying
Speaker 2: five Cod stud tournament.
Speaker 1: The next year the buying changed. This is where the asterisk.
Speaker 1: The buying changed to ten thousand. He won that one.
Speaker 2: Next year ninety seventy three, still ten thousand dollars, he
Speaker 2: won that that has an asterix because why and he
Speaker 2: had one player that was Bill Boyd because he has
Speaker 2: the best five cuts up player. The next year, ninety
Speaker 2: seventy four, buying changed a getting down to five k
Speaker 2: way more entrance.
Speaker 1: He won that for forty K.
Speaker 2: So he won the same event four consecutive years, but
Speaker 2: the buying change. So that's where I put the asterisks.
Speaker 2: I think it counts. But if you want an asterix
Speaker 2: that either way four events in a row, you're not
Speaker 2: going to get any better than Billy Voyd putting it.
Speaker 1: You know, he's just like a right, let's bring this back.
Speaker 1: This just trained back on the tracks. I mean I
Speaker 1: derailed it, so I'm not going to I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: get mad at anyone but myself. I derailed it. I
Speaker 1: just feeled it out. But we're feeling good. This is
Speaker 1: this is timidized version of up till. When you get
Speaker 1: a night like this is the work up till like
Speaker 1: you're just you're feeling pumped up like you're Is that
Speaker 1: the right word? One hundred percent? Up till? What is
Speaker 1: wrong with you?
Speaker 2: Have you never ever heard of even work in poker?
Speaker 2: I've never heard that tilt. Yes, I've heard like, no,
Speaker 2: that's not I've never heard that.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, trust me. Listen the viewers and stuff, and
Speaker 1: the people out there can can message us if they
Speaker 1: think that I'm lying. I'm not saying you live just
Speaker 1: never heard of it, exactly up till interesting exactly all right.
Speaker 1: So Shulman third time winning this event. It was the
Speaker 1: record setting tournament or the record setter for this tournament
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty three entries, four hundred ninety seven
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. So it's it's it really is fitting that
Speaker 1: Shulman wins it. You know, this really is the Nick
Speaker 1: Shulman signature event. You know, if you were to if
Speaker 1: you were to list poker players and then next to it,
Speaker 1: list like their signature event, you know Shulman would be
Speaker 1: ten K, Nolan Deuces seven Championship, Yes, Deil's choice, Bill
Speaker 1: BOYD five. We got it. Yeah, see I knew I
Speaker 1: went off the rails for a reason. He also won
Speaker 1: it in twenty twelve for two hundred and ninety four k.
Speaker 1: He won it in two thousand and nine for two
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy nine thousand dollars. Now let's not also
Speaker 1: for let's Let's also not forget twenty fifteen he came second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know he's an absolute crusher. I did a
Speaker 1: video the other day twenty eleven he finished fifth. There
Speaker 1: you go. I did a video the other day when
Speaker 1: they got into the money in this event. Because when
Speaker 1: they got into the money, Shulman cast for enough that
Speaker 1: the mint cash was twenty thousand and change. He cast
Speaker 1: for enough to move to the top of the ws
Speaker 1: AP all time money list for this game no limitduced
Speaker 1: to seven according to hendonmob dot com. So there was
Speaker 1: that little accolade, little achievement that he unlocked, and then
Speaker 1: he just goes on and wins the damn thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: just just simply incredible stuff he did have to endure.
Speaker 1: And trust me, it was a freaking end endurance match,
Speaker 1: eight hour heads up match with Darren Olias. These guys
Speaker 1: they I got here. I don't know what time I
Speaker 1: got here today, two o'clock. Yeah, they were three handed.
Speaker 1: It was Nick, it was Darren Olias, and it was
Speaker 1: Chatty Sledge Chatty Sledge Bus around two thirty or three
Speaker 1: something like that. I go, I have to go do commentary, Venetian,
Speaker 1: I go over there. I come back. There's still heads
Speaker 1: up Nick and Deren. I mean, just absolutely incredible stuff.
Speaker 1: And I've been around the was AP, I've been in
Speaker 1: the studio, Like I've seen Nick win plenty of things
Speaker 1: now and I've never really seen him act as he
Speaker 1: did afterwards. You know, you could just tell that it
Speaker 1: was like a big release, like in Adrenaline dumb Like
Speaker 1: he kind of had his hands on his head and
Speaker 1: was kind of walking around just like like I'm free
Speaker 1: in a way. Like it was. It was very weird,
Speaker 1: you know. I can't imagine being in that intense of
Speaker 1: a match. And Darren Is He's an incredible poker player.
Speaker 1: He is extremely proficient in this game, which I think
Speaker 1: might be overlooked by many people out there. Nick gave
Speaker 1: him plenty of credits last night on the broadcast. When
Speaker 1: I did that alongside Jared Bleslink and Joe Stapleton, Blesnik
Speaker 1: gave a lot of credit to Darren Elis as well.
Speaker 1: Darren Ellis I thought played exceptionally well, and he obviously
Speaker 1: has a ton of results that we'll talk about in
Speaker 1: a little bit in this format, you know, so just
Speaker 1: having to go heads up, plus you know, Darren Is,
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys who's searching for a bracelet
Speaker 1: still you know, he's won so much stuff, but he
Speaker 1: still has yet to claim a wsity bracelet. So I
Speaker 1: think that when Darren gets gets to heads up, like
Speaker 1: he just he locks in to another level, which means
Speaker 1: that if you're Nick, you need to lock in to
Speaker 1: at least match that if not, you know, exceed it.
Speaker 1: So I think a lot was taken out of these
Speaker 1: two in this heads up match, and you know, ultimately
Speaker 1: Nick came out on top. And then afterwards as if
Speaker 1: this guy wasn't tired enough and beaten down and all
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. From everything that that happened today,
Speaker 1: he was kind enough to spend a few minutes with
Speaker 1: me through an interview. So let's go to that interview
Speaker 1: with Nick right now.
Speaker 3: I would say, both emotionally and professionally, this this one
Speaker 3: really is really does kind of mean the most to me.
Speaker 3: I've said it to everybody asking me about to play
Speaker 3: Darren heads up for six hours. That was like, that
Speaker 3: was the first time I was really at peace with
Speaker 3: the result no matter what, which is which is a
Speaker 3: pretty uh kind of freeing feeling.
Speaker 1: You know, you can learn from that.
Speaker 3: But he's just such a great player and never gives
Speaker 3: an inch. So I just feel lucky and and thankful.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you keep showing up, stuff like this happens.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and I love single draw, so to win
Speaker 3: it three times and all of this stuff, it does
Speaker 3: mean a lot to me. And I'm just I'm very happy,
Speaker 3: you know. Just everybody says it's the kind of og
Speaker 3: like you know, everyone says that, and I love how
Speaker 3: it's got a little buzz about it, and you need
Speaker 3: you need players to just win it a few times
Speaker 3: for some reason, to to just kind of inspire. Not
Speaker 3: like I'm out here inspiring people making a low poker hands,
Speaker 3: but like you know, any sport, like if somebody goes
Speaker 3: off and does something like so, I've for a long
Speaker 3: time I felt like in poker, single draw just that's
Speaker 3: my shit, you know, Like I just I've played with
Speaker 3: everybody I played with with Doyle, I played Johnny Chan
Speaker 3: three handed once.
Speaker 1: For a week.
Speaker 3: It was why with this other guy, it was a
Speaker 3: crazy experience. I went to I basically moved to La
Speaker 3: to play a single draw. You know, it didn't just
Speaker 3: happen by accident. I mean, really, it's just the reps
Speaker 3: and and caring about the game and yeah, so I'm
Speaker 3: really overwhelmed. I mean, this guy's not looking for anybody
Speaker 3: to feel sorry for him and stuff. But I just
Speaker 3: I was emotional playing Darren, like I feel like we
Speaker 3: just became best friends kind of like you know, it's
Speaker 3: just something like that is crazy, you know, like and
Speaker 3: it's it wasn't just that, it was it was all
Speaker 3: day yesterday and and uh or today even I don't
Speaker 3: you know, it was this was a wild tournament. I
Speaker 3: mean it was really one of the best structures ever.
Speaker 1: That I recall.
Speaker 3: You know, it went to ninety minute levels, and yeah,
Speaker 3: I was overwhelmed. I got a little misty, you know.
Speaker 1: Was it hit me hard.
Speaker 3: It was just when I had my daughter, who you know,
Speaker 3: it's not that cash. Cash may even be a smarter
Speaker 3: way to go, but it was just I just started
Speaker 3: liking to just wake up in the morning and go
Speaker 3: to sleep at night and kind of hang out with
Speaker 3: the family and just know when I'm playing and when
Speaker 3: I'm not playing, and you know, I might return one
Speaker 3: day to cash, but it just I just decided to
Speaker 3: sort of go go all out in tournaments, at least
Speaker 3: here in Vegas. I felt like there was enough stuff
Speaker 3: I could play and I really enjoy them, you know.
Speaker 3: And I also kind of refound a love for no limit.
Speaker 3: So I'd be lying if if I didn't say that.
Speaker 3: It's basically my primary source of income. And you know,
Speaker 3: I've made a few mistakes over the years, so I'm
Speaker 3: not just retired, so to speak. And I want to
Speaker 3: build and you know, do it right this time. So
Speaker 3: that's a big part of what keeps me coming. However,
Speaker 3: even if I was didn't have to play, I would play.
Speaker 3: I just you know, poker makes me better. It's just
Speaker 3: if you're not right with yourself and you know, you
Speaker 3: don't find some humbleness and stuff like that. You know,
Speaker 3: this game it really will mess you up bad, you know.
Speaker 3: And I don't wish that on anybody, but for me,
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I can come in, I can lose, I can get
Speaker 3: my heart broken. It's okay, you know. I just try
Speaker 3: my best and let God handle the rest. And I
Speaker 3: really do believe that, So it means a lot, you know,
Speaker 3: It's it's a profound thing. I don't you get to
Speaker 3: a point where all these guys, you know, I'm wishing
Speaker 3: all these guys. I love seeing people do you know,
Speaker 3: tremendous things and stuff, and like, I don't know what
Speaker 3: to say, but it does mean something to me. I
Speaker 3: don't want it to define me. I don't want it
Speaker 3: to because these things are fleeting in a sense like
Speaker 3: there's more to you know, but I'm proud and you know,
Speaker 3: big shout out to my mom, love you, miss you.
Speaker 1: So there was Nick Shulman. I mean you could hear
Speaker 1: it from him, right. It definitely means a lot to him.
Speaker 1: He touched a bit on his legacy. He talked, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of briefly about you know, past mistakes that he
Speaker 1: had made and how he kind of wants to write things.
Speaker 1: A big turning point in his life was having his
Speaker 1: daughter again. He spoke very highly of Darren, you know,
Speaker 1: he talked about how this event really caters to him
Speaker 1: and like what it means to him and what it
Speaker 1: means to have success in this uh in this specific event.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, just great stuff all around from
Speaker 1: Nick Shulman. He's you know, one of the coolest cats
Speaker 1: and poker for sure, and it's good to hear him,
Speaker 1: you know, open up like that in the wake of
Speaker 1: a of a win. Now my question for you, sir,
Speaker 1: where does Nick Shulman rank all time in poker?
Speaker 2: All time?
Speaker 1: Yeah? All time? I mean, I'm asking it because I
Speaker 1: have an agenda here. I believe that he is among
Speaker 1: one of the absolute best all time, like like short
Speaker 1: list best, like top five all time, top six, like
Speaker 1: like like guaranteed for sure, top ten I think, you know,
Speaker 1: So where does he rank for you? Like you would?
Speaker 1: So a lot of people say, like, okay, well where
Speaker 1: is where does somebody rank all time? And then they'll
Speaker 1: just be like, well, this guy has this many bracelets,
Speaker 1: this guy's this many brasis. Let's run down the list, right,
Speaker 1: or they'll go, okay, this is the all time money list,
Speaker 1: this guy is this is like you know, and Nick
Speaker 1: isn't at the top of those lists. Yeah, okay, right,
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that he's not one of the
Speaker 1: greatest of all time. People often talk about Chip Reese. Yeah, now,
Speaker 1: he's nowhere near the top of tournament leaderboard lists, right,
Speaker 1: but if you ask anyone, he's arguably, if not the
Speaker 1: greatest poker player of all time. Right, So that's kind
Speaker 1: of what I'm getting at here. You know, where where
Speaker 1: does Nick Rake all time. I would say he's surefire
Speaker 1: like top ten for me in this, you know, I
Speaker 1: would have probably said that before this he's up there,
Speaker 1: and this I think only like really solidifies that he's
Speaker 1: definitely not top five. You know we can rule that out. Wow,
Speaker 1: just just right away, just right away.
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's be honest if we're trying to factor
Speaker 2: everything in with what is poker, not just telling you results.
Speaker 2: Helmuth Doyle, m'gronor ivy Eh, maybe he could be five,
Speaker 2: He's definitely top ten. It's more of a question of
Speaker 2: you know, where do we rank Shulman versus Eric Sidel?
Speaker 2: Where we ran Shulman versus you know, we go We've
Speaker 2: got to wind the clock way back to the Johnny Moss.
Speaker 2: You know where did John Hennigan stand in this? Gott
Speaker 2: sever Johnny Chan, some of these names definitely top ten
Speaker 2: and well some.
Speaker 1: Of those names, by the way, now that Nick has
Speaker 1: seven bracelets, sever John Hennigan, Nigran new you know, Billy Baxter,
Speaker 1: you know they all have seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so Nick is right there with them. I'm
Speaker 2: going to read you just said he won his seventh bracelet.
Speaker 2: He's tied for fifth fastest to seven bracelets. Okay, so
Speaker 2: if we are talking about you know, the longevity and
Speaker 2: the legacy. You know, we have mass ivy Helm with
Speaker 2: Sidel and Shulman's tied with Doyle was at sixteen years
Speaker 2: to get his seventh bracelet. Side note, side fact on
Speaker 2: Doyle it was thirteen years between six and seven. So
Speaker 2: he won six bracelets in three years, then took thirteen
Speaker 2: years off well off Slash didn't want to play tournaments,
Speaker 2: was winning millions of dollars in cash hands.
Speaker 1: But either way, so just taking that stat which which
Speaker 1: on it? Which is? And you heard Nick talk about it,
Speaker 1: Ask him about he used to play a lot of
Speaker 1: cash games, and I believe he even told our colleague Remco,
Speaker 1: you know, several years ago when it was over at
Speaker 1: the Rio, that you know, oftentimes just the cash games
Speaker 1: are too good, that the money is too big, Like
Speaker 1: he'll skip tournaments for him. You know, now as you
Speaker 1: heard him in the interview, he has transitioned essentially fully
Speaker 1: two tournaments. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Perfect, So he's right on the cosp of breaking into
Speaker 2: that top five. You know, is there a world where
Speaker 2: he is regarded as in Poker's mounts Rushmore? You know,
Speaker 2: it's going to be always going to be hard to
Speaker 2: knock off both Phils and Daniel. It's that fourth spot
Speaker 2: that I think the modern generation of poker fans and
Speaker 2: poker media could see him, you know, pushing out a Doyle,
Speaker 2: pushing out an Eric Sidel or whoever they may have
Speaker 2: in fourth.
Speaker 1: So he's making a case.
Speaker 2: And as you said, the biggest thing about him, plays
Speaker 2: all the games, has bracelets in all the games, right, Like,
Speaker 2: It's not like he's a one trick pony or he
Speaker 2: can only win in mixed, or can only win no limit.
Speaker 2: You know, he's got the no limit bracelet last year,
Speaker 2: he's got the deuce bracelets, he's got the stud bracelet,
Speaker 2: plays everything, plays all the buyings too, you know, he
Speaker 2: plays from fifteen hundred all the way up to you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes one hundred k, fifty k's and and all that.
Speaker 2: So one of the most well rounded players in WSP history,
Speaker 2: and he is forging a legacy that is going to
Speaker 2: be hard to be matched by anyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the reason why I wanted to bring
Speaker 1: this up is I kind of got started to thinking,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what exactly it was. I know,
Speaker 1: Nick is a big boxing guy. I enjoyed boxing as well,
Speaker 1: probably way more than I should, because you know, every
Speaker 1: time I watch a fight, I want to rip my
Speaker 1: breaking teeth out because of what just happened or how
Speaker 1: they judged it or whatever. And I was trying to think, like,
Speaker 1: you know, pound for pound rankings, right, because it's it's
Speaker 1: often hard, Like, well, it's hard in boxing because you
Speaker 1: know all these different weakhasses, right, And my like drawing
Speaker 1: to that is that you have like all these different
Speaker 1: very and poker right, like when people say that who's
Speaker 1: the greatest poker player of all time and then you
Speaker 1: throw out her name like I don't know, like let's
Speaker 1: just say Fador Holes because he had that crazy run
Speaker 1: once and I remember at the time, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: he's the greatest Nolan Holme tournament player right now, and
Speaker 1: maybe he goes on to be that ever, yes, but
Speaker 1: like when you say poker player, like I think everything,
Speaker 1: like you gotta be able to do it all, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's where I come back to then boxing saying,
Speaker 1: you know, like pound for pound, like when you're able
Speaker 1: to stack everyone up against each other, like you can
Speaker 1: take someone who's already won two braces. This year been
Speaker 1: a Glasar right. I mean he's known as a mixed
Speaker 1: game specialist, but you can still like somehow put him
Speaker 1: in the conversation for different things, right, you know, So
Speaker 1: it's hard to take like kind of a one trick pony,
Speaker 1: but Nick is not. He does everything, you know. So
Speaker 1: I ended up landing on Bernard Hopkins was my pick.
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of thought that one Bernard Hopkins
Speaker 1: called the Executioner, Nick was called the Takeover. So like
Speaker 1: they're like just I mean, it's the cool nickname. It
Speaker 1: doesn't they don't really draw to each other at all.
Speaker 1: You know, they're cerebral surgical age like fine Wine. I
Speaker 1: think Nick is like this like like the aging like
Speaker 1: fine Wine. To me, like when it comes to poker,
Speaker 1: is you just get better and better as time goes
Speaker 1: on and you're able to stick with the modern game.
Speaker 1: But also you have to be able to take it
Speaker 1: to the streets at some point, which again in the interview,
Speaker 1: like you heard and it kind of hint at that
Speaker 1: like like this game specifically, you kind of be able,
Speaker 1: got to be able to just get in there and
Speaker 1: like you know, throw some some punches. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's the there's a super technical modern game, right, but
Speaker 1: at least as it pertains to this game that many
Speaker 1: people refer to many of the greats referred to as
Speaker 1: the purest form, if not one of the purest forms
Speaker 1: of poker. You just got to be able to get
Speaker 1: in there like bare knuckle and just just go at
Speaker 1: it with people, right, look your guy in the face,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's it. There's there's two streets of betting.
Speaker 1: There's pre draw, there's post draw. Like you know, you
Speaker 1: got to really feel it out. You heard Blessnik talk
Speaker 1: a lot about this last night in the in the broadcast,
Speaker 1: So you know, I just think when it comes to
Speaker 1: like the aging like fine wine. You know, again, you
Speaker 1: see so many people in poker that come and go.
Speaker 1: They're a flash in the pan. Now maybe that flashes
Speaker 1: a little bit longer than you know, a couple of seconds.
Speaker 1: It's a year long, or it's two years long. But
Speaker 1: they kind of come in, they pop in, they have
Speaker 1: their run, and then you kind of don't hear from
Speaker 1: them anymore in terms of winning big things or whatever.
Speaker 1: Nick is also a technician in every game which you
Speaker 1: pointed to. He's done it all over the place, right,
Speaker 1: and he continues to do it. We see that, you know,
Speaker 1: every single series on the PGT it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: it is Nicks in the studio blasting. Yeah, here the series,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what it is Nixon the tournament blasting.
Speaker 1: It can be one hundred k high roller, you know,
Speaker 1: it can be a three K horse tournament, it can
Speaker 1: be a fifteen dollars seven cards stud Like, he's all
Speaker 1: over the place, but he's so well and good at everything.
Speaker 1: And again there's like that old school intensity, which which
Speaker 1: I think also makes Nick like so cool to people.
Speaker 1: He's like he's he's old school. He's like old Vegas.
Speaker 1: You know, you can tell by like the kind of
Speaker 1: the clothes he wears and whatnot. Like you can feel
Speaker 1: it when he's locked in. You know, he doesn't need
Speaker 1: to say much, but then when he does speak, it's
Speaker 1: just incredible. He's like his own brand in a way exactly.
Speaker 1: So Yeah, I mean, I also think that again, he
Speaker 1: understands the game now. He talked about a bit about
Speaker 1: that maturity thing in the interview, and I think that
Speaker 1: he understands the game more now than he ever did.
Speaker 1: And he's also kept himself up with you know, studying
Speaker 1: and getting better. I think you see a lot of
Speaker 1: players who they kind of just get complacent with where
Speaker 1: they are and they get so they like win a
Speaker 1: bunch because they're obviously very good and they probably studied
Speaker 1: some but then they they might not try and push
Speaker 1: to that next level. So you know, there's that sort
Speaker 1: of stuff. So, yeah, that's where I'm at with him.
Speaker 1: He's he's Poker's Bernard Hopkins is where I'm at. Authentic
Speaker 1: poker is his craft, you know, the way he carries himself,
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. He commands the table in
Speaker 1: any format, you know. So yeah, no gimmicks. He's just
Speaker 1: a guy. He's freaking dead serious and he's just like
Speaker 1: the realest one in the game. So I think that
Speaker 1: in and of itself is worthy of being considered one
Speaker 1: of the best I'll say, pound for pound poker players.
Speaker 1: And you know, I would rank him near the top. So, okay,
Speaker 1: top ten for me, like all time. All of those
Speaker 1: names that you said, I agree with, but you know,
Speaker 1: for me, I think Shulman is certainly up there.
Speaker 2: I think it's always going to be very individualized, right,
Speaker 2: like how you perceive someone, what do you classify as
Speaker 2: part of your you know, key fact I seen deciding this.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that stuff for you and me.
Speaker 2: I think at our ages is all about ambassadorship, and
Speaker 2: I think that's why like Negrono Helmwith gets some bonus points.
Speaker 2: You know, in my mind, I think that's why some
Speaker 2: people that might not be in the top ten and
Speaker 2: get a few more points, like to me, like a
Speaker 2: Mattisaw gains a little bit more because of what he
Speaker 2: did when we were kind of growing up in this
Speaker 2: industry and you know, watching it on ESPN and all
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So I think it's always like
Speaker 2: any sport list, it's when you're ranking either favorites or
Speaker 2: who you think best, you're always going to have your
Speaker 2: own thoughts or outver value certain categories, right, And I
Speaker 2: think you've kind of nailed some of those ones with Shulman.
Speaker 1: So Shulman tops Darren Olias in Heads Up Play Now,
Speaker 1: Darren Ollias is another one. Want I want to spend
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes on here, second in this event
Speaker 1: this year to Shulman for three hundred and thirty six thousand. Now, Darren,
Speaker 1: He's like, first of all, you have to just hang
Speaker 1: your head high when you lose to Shulman, who's arguably
Speaker 1: the greatest player in this game. So how can you like,
Speaker 1: how can you feel upset about it?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: Of course, it sucks to lose in second. It sucks
Speaker 1: to lose in any place in a tournament other than
Speaker 1: first place. Right, It's one of those things I was
Speaker 1: telling I was talking with Tristan Wade the other day
Speaker 1: about this sort of stuff. And if you were to
Speaker 1: tell me before a tournament, I'm gonna get second place
Speaker 1: or I'm going to get seventh, make the final table,
Speaker 1: yeah I would, And I could sign for that right
Speaker 1: now before the tournament even started. Snap sign. No one
Speaker 1: would ever not sign. But then you get that far
Speaker 1: and the only thing you want is to win, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you end up because the only
Speaker 1: thing that matters is first place. So it's just it's
Speaker 1: just such an fed up game tournament voter, It really is.
Speaker 1: It just really messes with your mind and in order
Speaker 1: to keep doing it and keep persevering and coming up coming,
Speaker 1: you know, to play every single day, and a lot
Speaker 1: of times it's getting your teeth kicked in. Like, there's
Speaker 1: a lot to be said about that. Now. Darren Olias
Speaker 1: has had this second place this year. He had a
Speaker 1: third in twenty nineteen in this event this is just
Speaker 1: this event, a third in twenty seventeen, and a ninth
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. I know, Darren Olias is known as
Speaker 1: the end boss of you know, like big Field nolanan
Speaker 1: Holden tournaments, also some high rollers as well. But this
Speaker 1: game Nolan Deduce. He's incredible as yeah, and I thought
Speaker 1: it would have been like tremendously fitting if he were
Speaker 1: to win his first bracelet in this variant. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people would have thought, Okay, like he'll
Speaker 1: just win some Nolan hold him bracelet sometime someday like that,
Speaker 1: that'll probably come. But he performs so well in this tournament.
Speaker 1: He's been close so many times, and this one again,
Speaker 1: I mean just he's right there and at times he
Speaker 1: has the chip lead heads up and he just you know,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, maybe he just ran bad, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, he just can't come out on top.
Speaker 1: So he also had as it pertains to w s
Speaker 1: ap stuff because you know, Darren Olias is still searching
Speaker 1: for a World Series of Poker gold bracelet. A third
Speaker 1: in the twenty five K high Roller in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: hit a fourth and three K six max in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two. You know how when you think of Darren Olias,
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of us think of Darren
Speaker 1: Ollias and we say, okay, he's the WPT goat, Like
Speaker 1: do you do you think having a bracelet or not
Speaker 1: having a bracelet affects his legacy in any sort of way?
Speaker 1: Like are people looking at him and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he couldn't do it there? You know the old
Speaker 1: saying shout out producer rich Ryan, you know, do it
Speaker 1: on a cold night in Stoke.
Speaker 2: I just continue, You know what, it's a probably good
Speaker 2: question to ask him because you know, he's such a
Speaker 2: measured like how does he feel?
Speaker 1: I reckon he does?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to guess that even though through that,
Speaker 2: you know that stoic demeanor that he you know, portrays
Speaker 2: at the table, that there's a little bit of a
Speaker 2: burn inside that I've gone so close so many times,
Speaker 2: and this is the one like notch that I don't have.
Speaker 2: You know, I have the WPT titles, I have the
Speaker 2: higher LATAs, I have PGT titles. I just don't have
Speaker 2: the WSP bracelet. And you know, kind of similar to
Speaker 2: Brian Olman, who is like a crush around the WPT
Speaker 2: as well. He won a w SP bracelet. I think
Speaker 2: it was either the last year of the year before
Speaker 2: it was online, but he still won one. You know,
Speaker 2: he got that monkey off his back. You know, he
Speaker 2: was always regarded as one of the WBT goats along
Speaker 2: with along with Darren, and I think Darren wants to
Speaker 2: kind of break through and have a WSB bracelet along
Speaker 2: with all his other accomplishments to like, you know, we
Speaker 2: talk about Nick being well rounded. I think that goes
Speaker 2: the same for Darren in terms of accomplishments. And you know,
Speaker 2: he doesn't play a lot anymore. Does play WBTS does
Speaker 2: come for some of our series and obviously the World series,
Speaker 2: but he's not out there traveling the world anymore. He's
Speaker 2: got some kids at home, loves to pet a golf
Speaker 2: club around the golf courses back East. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I think if we asked him to say, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's something I really really really want and I'm sure
Speaker 2: you know it's going to come eventually.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's at least I feel like
Speaker 1: I think you feel there with what you just said
Speaker 1: that it really is a matter of time for Daron Olias. Again,
Speaker 1: I would have thought that it would have been very
Speaker 1: fitting for him to win this tournament because I think
Speaker 1: that it's one he holds, you know, very highly and
Speaker 1: would have loved to win it. And then you know,
Speaker 1: had he beaten Nick Shulman two like, that's that's just
Speaker 1: icing on the cake to do it. But again, you know,
Speaker 1: just gotta hold your head high because you know, second place,
Speaker 1: a super super tough field final table is freaking stacked.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta go heads up with the great
Speaker 1: the greatest to ever do it in this game. You know,
Speaker 1: you ultimately come out in second. So nothing to be
Speaker 1: ashamed of there. But eventually Darren's gonna get one, right,
Speaker 1: And and I'll say that it's either going to be
Speaker 1: in the ten k nolam at deuce. He's either gonna
Speaker 1: win that or he's gonna win like one of the
Speaker 1: high rollers, maybe not the highest high roller, like maybe
Speaker 1: not the two fifty k, but a twenty five k,
Speaker 1: like ten K six max, you know something like that. Right,
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's right in Darren's wheelhouse.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go to the opposite I'm going
Speaker 2: to go and say he wins like the fifteen hundred shootout,
Speaker 2: like the four hundred, like no limit hold him on
Speaker 2: WSPN lote.
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't even know if he would bother
Speaker 1: to play that anymore? Why not? I just I just
Speaker 1: don't know if he would. I mean, I don't know, maybe,
Speaker 1: but I don't see him doing it. He I know
Speaker 1: he had that was it a five hundred dollars bracelet
Speaker 1: of it online that he had a final table? I
Speaker 1: think he took fifth or something like that. Like, I
Speaker 1: just don't see darennalized grinding online anymore. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: while he's here would make good bitterness. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: like when he's here. I think he's in the he's
Speaker 1: in it out there, like he's not like grind it online.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Now, maybe I would say that if he does win
Speaker 1: it all, let's say he wins it online bracelet, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say it's more likely to come at home
Speaker 1: in New Jersey than here. He's just home during some
Speaker 1: online bracelet series and he just you know, fires it in.
Speaker 1: Jason Kuhn fifty K high Roller Champion. He told us
Speaker 1: the other day he was going to win the two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty K super high Rollers, so that one's
Speaker 1: still out there for the taking for now. But in
Speaker 1: the meantime he had to go and win the fifty
Speaker 1: K high Roller almost two million dollars for first place
Speaker 1: in this one one million, nine hundred and sixty eight
Speaker 1: thousand for kun top day fuel of one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy one entries. He beat Andrew Lucky Chewy Lichtenberger and
Speaker 1: heads up play who's good friends with? And he is,
Speaker 1: you know, he said in the post win interview with
Speaker 1: Jeff Platt that he's gone back fifteen something years with
Speaker 1: Andrew Lucky Chewy Lichtenberger and then his best friend Ben
Speaker 1: Toleeran finished in third place. Yeah, so that was very cool.
Speaker 1: I know that you talked with him afterwards and you
Speaker 1: asked him about, you know, playing with your friends and
Speaker 1: how is that sort of thing, because you know, once
Speaker 1: you get onto the table and you're playing for this
Speaker 1: much money, it's ultimately war. But these are also your
Speaker 1: very close friends and a whole bunch of other stuff
Speaker 1: that you hit on with him. So let's go to
Speaker 1: that interview right now, and then we'll come on back
Speaker 1: and we'll continue here.
Speaker 2: With Jason Kern, two time WSP Bracon winner, When you
Speaker 2: first in two thousand and twenty one Heads Up Championship
Speaker 2: and now this incredibly tough event, How important is it
Speaker 2: building upon your own personal WSP legacy.
Speaker 4: I every time I win a tournament, especially since I
Speaker 4: only play really big ones anymore, it just feels kind
Speaker 4: of like a dream. You know, I'm like, Wow, I
Speaker 4: still get to win these Sometimes this is really hard
Speaker 4: and incredible. You know. You look around at the table
Speaker 4: and it's just legend after legend and the fact that
Speaker 4: I get to come in with only thirty percent of
Speaker 4: the chips and win the whole thing. You know, it
Speaker 4: doesn't happen very often.
Speaker 2: You've accomplished so much in poker. What keeps you motivated
Speaker 2: to come here? Battle and you know, take down tournament
Speaker 2: off to tournament.
Speaker 4: I really like to compete. I really like to compete.
Speaker 4: I like to test myself. If I have a slow
Speaker 4: couple of months, I start to feel this itch if
Speaker 4: I need to be tested at something, and poker is
Speaker 4: a great proving grounds for me because it's something that
Speaker 4: I'm very good at. And then I've you know, put
Speaker 4: my entire life into for two decades, So it's just
Speaker 4: something that's it fills something inside of me. That's the
Speaker 4: whole reason I do it.
Speaker 2: Playing these high sex tournaments, the plays, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of small. You've made some great friends, and he obviously
Speaker 2: been tolerating the place, Finisha and even you know, Lucky
Speaker 2: chewing you you know your question, Yeah, when you're playing
Speaker 2: for these high stakes, how hot is it to separate
Speaker 2: the friendship from pure competition.
Speaker 4: It used to be a lot harder for me whenever
Speaker 4: I had my ego wrapped up in the game. But
Speaker 4: once I separated worrying about the way that other people
Speaker 4: looked at me, and I just let all my friends know, Hey,
Speaker 4: you know, I love you, but let's just poker is poker.
Speaker 4: Let's compete the best that we can, and that way
Speaker 4: we respect each other the most. And once I split
Speaker 4: the ego from the game, it's freeing and we all
Speaker 4: just go at it. And that's why you see us
Speaker 4: play so hard against one another. You know, Like I
Speaker 4: said at Triton, when Ben and I got heads up
Speaker 4: in that tournament, it's some of the most violent poker
Speaker 4: I've ever played in my life has been against Ben.
Speaker 4: It's just absolutely violent. You know, we're just just battle
Speaker 4: at one another and wouldn't have it any other way.
Speaker 2: You've talked about playing less, you know, kids at home, family,
Speaker 2: and just kind of hand picking the events you play.
Speaker 2: Is there like a special satisfaction when you can actually
Speaker 2: win one of these ones that you've kind of picked
Speaker 2: out for your schedule?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean, like I was saying, this thing
Speaker 4: had one hundred and seventy seven runners. I was in
Speaker 4: for one bullet to get to be here and win
Speaker 4: the thing. You know, you don't get to do that
Speaker 4: every year you play eight tournaments of the World Series.
Speaker 4: Don't just get to show up and win one. So
Speaker 4: it's it's it's really incredible, and I still don't really
Speaker 4: know how how it's even possible. You just kind of
Speaker 4: sit down and you you do the thing, and you
Speaker 4: do what you know to do, and sometimes you.
Speaker 1: Look up and you're holding bracelet.
Speaker 2: The other day, we were walking the field, me and
Speaker 2: Donny Peter's, and we saw you and you said, I'm
Speaker 2: going to win this two fifty K.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's this year it's going to happen. Yes,
Speaker 1: you just want the fifty k. Yeah, is the two
Speaker 1: fifty steal that white way. I'll seal that thing.
Speaker 2: You'll chase.
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, the two fifty k is my main event.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win it.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it'll be this year. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: win that tournament you've won.
Speaker 2: You know, we mentioned how much you've won, twelve trning
Speaker 2: titles now to bracelets, pgt titles. When the dust settles
Speaker 2: on your career, what do you want your legacy to
Speaker 2: be defined?
Speaker 1: As well?
Speaker 4: That I was honest and hard working, and I think
Speaker 4: a lot of the people that saw me from the
Speaker 4: beginning how raw I was. I think that I've grown
Speaker 4: exponentially as a person and as a player, and I
Speaker 4: think that my career could be a testament to persistence
Speaker 4: in showing up and working your ass off, and being
Speaker 4: honest with yourself and just iterating day in and day out,
Speaker 4: what can I do to be better? What can I
Speaker 4: do to be better? And you know, look back twenty
Speaker 4: years later, and you did some stuff?
Speaker 1: All right? That was Jason Kuhn. You obviously know Jason
Speaker 1: pretty well. I know Jason pretty well. You know what
Speaker 1: kind of stood out to you talking to him after
Speaker 1: that win. I think it's when I always talk to
Speaker 1: Jason Kerhn. I always find he's just so measured in
Speaker 1: these responses, so calm. He did a round of interviews
Speaker 1: up on the stage onder the bride Ly Its got
Speaker 1: moved down to where we were sitting with WSP, then
Speaker 1: did with us.
Speaker 2: He's he answers so perfectly everything. You know, I just
Speaker 2: I don't get how these guys can do that sometimes,
Speaker 2: Like you've just that.
Speaker 1: That, well, let me just say that the large majority
Speaker 1: of them do not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe it's look, maybe it's so we decide
Speaker 2: to talk to and we just we just pick right.
Speaker 2: But like you just know that these guys are going
Speaker 2: to give you the good answers and and you know,
Speaker 2: provide all the stuff you need. And like you touched
Speaker 2: on it. I think it's interesting that you know, he
Speaker 2: is dialing down. He's poker a little bit. You know,
Speaker 2: he does obviously still play try AND's, he plays the
Speaker 2: biggest stuff, but yeah, he's hand picking his events and
Speaker 2: obviously you know, played one of them, maybe what eight
Speaker 2: events he might play this summer. He ripped off that
Speaker 2: second bracelet and yeah, but he still has that that
Speaker 2: big golden carrot weight that he wants to chase down
Speaker 2: which is the two fifty K super Hirola.
Speaker 1: And and listen, once we know how important confidence and
Speaker 1: momentum are and poker. So now that because he mentioned
Speaker 1: in his interview, you know how at times he'll go
Speaker 1: along period of time without really having results and he'll
Speaker 1: kind of get out of himself. But now it's early
Speaker 1: in the series. He's already had this success to the
Speaker 1: best degree in terms of winning this high role or
Speaker 1: super stacked field. So does he have the momentum? Does
Speaker 1: he have the extra confidence now to go into that
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty k and just you know, ravage
Speaker 1: the thing, right, Yeah, I mean he'll start with the
Speaker 1: hunter K. I'm assuming tomorrow. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I did ask him about the interview, like a two
Speaker 2: hundred K tomorrow or tonight, and he goes tomorrow would
Speaker 2: definitely being that one tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I get this like very robotic vibe from Jason
Speaker 2: Cooney in a way that nothing affects him win all loss,
Speaker 2: And I think that I don't think the confidence changes.
Speaker 1: I think it's always high for him. Well, I think
Speaker 1: I think it goes both ways with him in terms
Speaker 1: of the like being a robot and being a human
Speaker 1: because I think on the felt he just can turn
Speaker 1: it on. Yeah, I mean he's he's always been an athlete,
Speaker 1: and he's been a very good athlete. He did a
Speaker 1: lot of track, a lot of sprinting, and I think
Speaker 1: when you are a very good athlete, you have to
Speaker 1: be dialed and you have to just be able to
Speaker 1: like flip that switch and like lock in. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what you see when you see him compete
Speaker 1: in these high rollers. Okay, but then off the felt, right,
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, let's go get a Starbucks. You know,
Speaker 1: he's like a normal dude like you, but he has
Speaker 1: that gear where he can just turn it on, you know,
Speaker 1: when the lights are the brightest, when it means the most.
Speaker 2: I've seen him bust you know, two bullets in our
Speaker 2: main event over at the Pugo Studio very quickly, and
Speaker 2: all he does is just goes, Okay, guess it wasn't
Speaker 2: my day.
Speaker 1: Everyone to see light. I'll see you next series.
Speaker 3: Have fun.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you, like, I'm pretty sure he did
Speaker 1: not used to always be like that, because I've seen
Speaker 1: him kind of I mean, not that he's like going crazy,
Speaker 1: but like you know, you visibly frustrated at times back
Speaker 1: in the day, but even even in the interview with you,
Speaker 1: he hit on like how he's matured, do it all
Speaker 1: you knows. He's basically like like I'm at peace in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways with things. So you know, and
Speaker 1: I likened Nick Shulman to Bernard Hopkins. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: another one, another another box Can we go to a
Speaker 1: sport on It's not another boxer, but it's close. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start jumping I f L and cricket people and throwing.
Speaker 1: That's fine. I don't need to understand it. As long
Speaker 1: as someone out there understands it, then it works. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going with GSP. Do you know who that is?
Speaker 1: He's the French Canadian George Saint Pierre, hyper disciplined, physically gifted.
Speaker 1: Not that that necessarily matters a whole ton in poker,
Speaker 1: but you know, it probably matters when you're when you're
Speaker 1: physically like up to speed with everything, it helps you mentally,
Speaker 1: it helps you emotionally. GSP was always obsessed with optimal performance,
Speaker 1: which I think Jason Kuhne is. We know that he's obsessed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we know, And I think he hit it on
Speaker 1: a bit in the interview, and I think people just
Speaker 1: Jason Kuhn is EFN obsessed. Okay, he's obsessed. He he
Speaker 1: doesn't play a lot these days, but you better believe
Speaker 1: he is constantly studying and working to get better. The
Speaker 1: guy is freaking obsessed. And GSP was like he was obsessed.
Speaker 1: He studied every single edge, from diet to mindset to movement,
Speaker 1: you know, to different styles, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: And I think Jason Kuhn probably approaches poker similarly to
Speaker 1: how GSP approached fighting, you know, in MMA. So that's
Speaker 1: that's what I do. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: GSP is seems like a kind of he seems like
Speaker 1: he has that switch. I mean, I know he has
Speaker 1: that switch. I've watched plenty of YOUFC. You can tell
Speaker 1: he has that switch. When he gets in the ring,
Speaker 1: he's a total f N killer in the octagon, total
Speaker 1: cook killer. When Kuhn gets on the table, total killer.
Speaker 1: But when he's off of it, you know, nice normal guy.
Speaker 1: So it's that brains, it's that precision, you know, it's
Speaker 1: that physical specimen. Again, not that that necessarily means all
Speaker 1: that much in poker, but it is if you're sitting
Speaker 1: at a table, Kuhn, it must feel imposing when he's
Speaker 1: sitting there, broad shoulders, you know, fucking chisel jawline, just
Speaker 1: like staring you down, like you know, raising you for
Speaker 1: betting you, like whatever? Right? I mean, how did brock
Speaker 1: Wilson feel today when Coon pushed him off that chop?
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean, It's like it's like
Speaker 2: this effing guy, like the freaking iceman over here. It's
Speaker 2: just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: So Kun is the tactician, and that's why I'm going
Speaker 1: to compare him to GSP. So we got we got
Speaker 1: Shulman's the Bernard Hopkins, we got Kuhn is the GSP.
Speaker 1: We should do this for every person who's a like
Speaker 1: I don't know this. We can have your own here.
Speaker 1: Jason Jason Dwong, the fifteen hundred dollars limit holding player,
Speaker 1: who's he I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. Is Jason
Speaker 1: Kuhn the best high roller of all time? Like just
Speaker 1: when I say that, think of somebody who like only
Speaker 1: focuses on high roers. Because we know Kun, you know,
Speaker 1: we've joked about it many times. He's not getting out
Speaker 1: of bed for anything twenty five k, and at this
Speaker 1: point in his career it might be anything lower than
Speaker 1: a fifty K.
Speaker 2: There's only about four names that can really be up
Speaker 2: for debate in this category. And I think that Well,
Speaker 2: you mentioned fatal Hols. You know you have to consider, Hey,
Speaker 2: he doesn't play that much anymore, but you know one
Speaker 2: time couldn't lose.
Speaker 1: Well, that's but that's that's got to be part of
Speaker 1: the question in that you know, similarly to Shulman, and
Speaker 1: it's it's also kind of coincidental that Shulman and Kuon
Speaker 1: are good friends. Yeah, but Kuhn is still doing it
Speaker 1: like you have to still do it right, like you
Speaker 1: can say Dan Coleman, for example, came in lit the
Speaker 1: world on fire and some of the biggest buy ins
Speaker 1: around the tournament circuit. But where is he now? So
Speaker 1: can you really put him in like yeah, I think
Speaker 1: now one second, Like someone like that you would say
Speaker 1: had an all time run, right, so continue, No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, you know, he doesn't play that much
Speaker 2: more anymore, but he did focus solely on the high
Speaker 2: roll as another person, you know, you have to mention
Speaker 2: his brain. Kenny is on top of the old time
Speaker 2: money list.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason. Maybe it's the whole Shaman frog poison crap,
Speaker 1: who knows, But like I feel like Brin Kenny just
Speaker 1: doesn't get his respect. Now, I don't care if you
Speaker 1: respect someone or don't respect someone as a person and
Speaker 1: what they do and all that sort of stuff. I'm
Speaker 1: just talking about his results on the film and brit
Speaker 1: Kenny freaking performs in the when there is a massive
Speaker 1: buying tournament. Brin Kenny is always just like one of
Speaker 1: the favorites for sure, and he's gonna perform. M hm.
Speaker 2: He might just be uber high rollers, only it feels
Speaker 2: sometimes like two fifty knet higher, although he did play
Speaker 2: this fifty k he did two more names one we
Speaker 2: haven't really seen it all this once. There is Justin
Speaker 2: Bonomo used to be high roll around the Isaac Hackson
Speaker 2: is another one. But going back to your question, without doubt,
Speaker 2: Jason curt is number one when it comes to high roles,
Speaker 2: mainly because the consistency over the years he plays. He
Speaker 2: still is playing everything as high as he can go.
Speaker 2: You know, he plays down. We say down to twenty
Speaker 2: five ks down right for him down and you know,
Speaker 2: even out off the felt you know, as we kind
Speaker 2: of touched on the interviews, you know, the way he
Speaker 2: kind of interacts with players, fans, you know, peers, people
Speaker 2: he doesn't know. He's just a world class individual and
Speaker 2: while also being a world class poker player and a
Speaker 2: crusher at high stakes.
Speaker 1: So number one by a landslide. I think I would
Speaker 1: agree with you. The only reason why I say I
Speaker 1: think is because I think if you asked Kun, he
Speaker 1: might say his best friend Ben Tolering, because I think
Speaker 1: all these guys hold Ben Toleran so high. But I
Speaker 1: agree that I think Kun is the best high roller
Speaker 1: of all time and will continue to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Ben's obviously a crusher. He's won a
Speaker 2: bunch of our van's last year. One of the reasons
Speaker 2: it's just not is because PLO too like including.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean Kuhne plays some of the big feels.
Speaker 1: I sets jumping into that as well.
Speaker 2: But you know, those other guys just don't have that
Speaker 2: resume that you know, Jason does twelve I've tried and
Speaker 2: titles to WSP bracelets, PGT Champion, PGT Championship winner. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you know, Band and Seth may be better, but
Speaker 2: they just don't have those accomplishments that Jason has a
Speaker 2: mass over the last you know, ten years while he's
Speaker 2: been in the game.
Speaker 1: Is he going to get that white? Well? The two
Speaker 1: fifty k this year? This this year?
Speaker 2: How many people played it last year? Seventy Santos win it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: seventy something. Ye, I mean I would say he could.
Speaker 2: He will get it.
Speaker 1: If there's an odds board for that tournament, Santos's number one.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jesse Lonas being whatever the hell he
Speaker 1: was sixteen to something ridiculous. Kun's got to be number one, right,
Speaker 1: I mean right, like the odds on favorite. I mean,
Speaker 1: it has to be the favorite. He's he's for sure
Speaker 1: in the top three.
Speaker 2: Well, are you talking this from the sportsbook perspective or
Speaker 2: are you talking this from.
Speaker 1: The I'm saying if we were, I'm saying, if we
Speaker 1: were to set the odds like I would have him
Speaker 1: in the I would have him probably number one, if
Speaker 1: not top three, Yeah, I mean top three for sure,
Speaker 1: but likely number one. Yeah. And especially now, you know,
Speaker 1: because this is like you win a couple of games,
Speaker 1: you're going into the you know, the big game. So
Speaker 1: he's got that momentum again, he's got that confidence with him. No, definitely,
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, if it's going to have seventy to eighty
Speaker 2: player fields for a few more years, who knows for
Speaker 2: how long, I would say, yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Might be able to get it.
Speaker 2: But his winning Parker is not easy, especially that one.
Speaker 2: He could go to the rest of his career without
Speaker 2: winning it, and that's not a knock against.
Speaker 1: And he also feels like a type of guy where
Speaker 1: and this is like kind of silly, but I kind
Speaker 1: of also do believe in this sort of stuff where
Speaker 1: he really believes it and he's going to do everything
Speaker 1: in his power to make it happen yea. And I
Speaker 1: just feel like that sort of self belief, self will,
Speaker 1: uber confidence is going to propel him to get it done.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be this year,
Speaker 1: but I think it could very well happen in the
Speaker 1: next two to three years. So that's where I'm at
Speaker 1: with him winning the two hundred and fifty K Super
Speaker 1: high Roller. But congratstick Jason Kuhn one point nine to
Speaker 1: sixty eight million dollars for winning the fifty K high Roller.
Speaker 1: Jason Dwong won the fifteen hundred dollars limit hold them.
Speaker 1: According to Poconus, he was down to two big bets
Speaker 1: in heads up play, but ultimately stormed on back listen
Speaker 1: when you're down, but not out the whole chip and
Speaker 1: a chair thing. I know everyone jokes about it. It
Speaker 1: is legit. We have seen people time and timing, and
Speaker 1: we just saw it the other day Chin or even
Speaker 1: nik wa GENTI I mean, don't Nick, I don't think
Speaker 1: it was down to two big bets. He was down
Speaker 1: to six, yeah, and Chino had a pile over there,
Speaker 1: and Chino was running his mouth, I mean in a
Speaker 1: friendly way, running his mouth, you know, talking crap, like
Speaker 1: having fun, all that sort of stuff. No, Nick stood
Speaker 1: strong and fought all the way back. And one here
Speaker 1: Jason Dwong fights all the way back and wins his
Speaker 1: first goal brace at one hundred and thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: as well, he topped a field of four hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety one entries. Adam Taiberski finished in second, Lawrence Robinson
Speaker 1: third in this one eighty six thousand dollars for Adam Tiberski,
Speaker 1: Lawrence Robinson fifty and nine K. We talked about it yesterday,
Speaker 1: but again Chris Unikan finishing eighth place. Had no idea
Speaker 1: he played limit hold him, had no idea he would
Speaker 1: ever be in a fifteen hundred dollars by a tournament period,
Speaker 1: So that was a surprise. And then Ian Johns finished
Speaker 1: in ninth place. There the three thousand dollars. Nolamit hold
Speaker 1: them freeze out? They are down to eight players?
Speaker 2: Yeah, eight players? Yeah, who do we got anyone? Brenett
Speaker 2: Bodanov is the chip leader, bracelet win. Varis kolev is
Speaker 2: in the drafted the wrong Borus. We did every time.
Speaker 2: Every time I go to the app and I look
Speaker 2: at the names, I look up Boris and I see
Speaker 2: Boris Cola and I'm like, God, damn it, we drafted
Speaker 2: the wrong Bores. And I honestly had Boris in some
Speaker 2: of my research, and I ultimately we picked Boris Angelo.
Speaker 1: It's the wrong one. Yeah, we got a blame Jonathan
Speaker 1: Tomorrow for the bors Angelot.
Speaker 2: Then come back tomorrow chasing four hundred and fifty one
Speaker 2: thousand for first. It's a nice little payday for players
Speaker 2: sitting fourth. Anatoly Nicotin, he what did he catched the
Speaker 2: fifty k or the twenty five k? One of those
Speaker 2: he just cashed like the other day. So he clearly
Speaker 2: hopped straight into this event. And then yeah, maybe catch
Speaker 2: the thirteenth in the twenty five k or ninety thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: There you go. I remember seeing him around there quite
Speaker 1: a bit. Ten thousand dollars plow high low eight or
Speaker 1: better championship. That's a mouthful. How much is PLO eight? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's better. Where are we at?
Speaker 2: Twenty seven players left from three hundred and eighty six entrance,
Speaker 2: whopping seven hundred and sixty three thousand dollars first prize.
Speaker 1: They're all in the money. Is this guarantee a record?
Speaker 3: I big?
Speaker 1: Is this field? I shouldn't say is it a record?
Speaker 1: I should say, how does this field compared to I.
Speaker 2: Think it will beg It feels big, but I think
Speaker 2: it's that big. Lots of legends still in Kwanzo, Chip
Speaker 2: Later second and Chips, Chris Fitch, Sean Dave, fifth and Chips,
Speaker 2: John Shuman, Eric Wassson, Phil Sternheim.
Speaker 1: Johnny Blessed, baby Brian. We need a chance. I need
Speaker 1: producer Rich. I need to make one of those soccer chance. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: but it's got to be. Rich is really good at
Speaker 1: this and and like he like, make it for John
Speaker 1: John Shrman. Okay, yeah right, we need we need it, Rich,
Speaker 1: We absolutely need it.
Speaker 2: Alan Kess, Brian Rass, Andy McLeod, Ronald Kaija, Matt Vangram
Speaker 2: ben Yu straight from the deuce, straight into this after
Speaker 2: busting today he's sitting nineteenth in chips.
Speaker 1: This name, I'm not so sure on and I wish
Speaker 1: I saw it earlier.
Speaker 2: If Guinny Timshenko, okay, I saw this in the app today, okay,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, clearly somebody changed their name
Speaker 2: to have Guinny Tamashenko another person that I saw.
Speaker 1: I think it was this tournament. They were at the
Speaker 1: top of the chip guns earlier. It said retracted like
Speaker 1: sill in that guy's skill in So but is that
Speaker 1: is that actually retracted or did they just change their name.
Speaker 2: I think his name is retracted. That's the code name.
Speaker 2: I think that's if Ganny is probably who would.
Speaker 1: No listen, Guiney. I went over there. I went over
Speaker 1: there and it was Guiney. And when I went over there,
Speaker 1: I ran to the bathroom and I was coming back
Speaker 1: and I saw you Guiney, and Daniel was at the
Speaker 1: other table. Is Daniel Stilling no yes, I don't know. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Daniel was at the table next to
Speaker 1: his and he comes over and he said something to
Speaker 1: ye Genny like oh, I haven't seen we haven't seen
Speaker 1: you in forever or something like that, and he asked
Speaker 1: him where he was and if Guenny was like he
Speaker 1: started to kind of try and answer, and Dan just goes,
Speaker 1: are you doing drugs? Are you doing drugs? Just you
Speaker 1: know Daniel, he just like goes in with crazy ship
Speaker 1: and Guinny's like kind of like, what, what's what's happening?
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, I was. I was just
Speaker 1: in Europe for the past couple of summers and Dan
Speaker 1: was like, doing drugs just so random, But yeah, so
Speaker 1: it is legit, Getty, I mean obviously, yeah, he looks
Speaker 1: the same. I mean I I surefire recognized him right away.
Speaker 1: And I was immediately thinking, like we got to get
Speaker 1: a camera on. You're getting Team of Sanko, Like, where
Speaker 1: the heck has this guy been Team a Tanko? Remember
Speaker 1: that that series he was Remember when he was taken
Speaker 1: forever in the tournament? Do you remember that it was
Speaker 1: the Dubbest Speed main event. They were down to like
Speaker 1: three tables yeah, and Charlie from the tournament staff comes
Speaker 1: over because he knew we were doing this is the
Speaker 1: It was either the first second the first second year.
Speaker 1: We were doing hand for three tables because we were
Speaker 1: the freaking goats. Okay, hand for hand coverage three tables
Speaker 1: left in the doublet spamin event. Goat ship okay. So
Speaker 1: remember that we're doing that. And because we were doing that,
Speaker 1: you could tell which tables were ahead of the others
Speaker 1: and how fast tables were playing. So it was found
Speaker 1: out that like the one table I think it was,
Speaker 1: I think he might have been on the main feature,
Speaker 1: but that table was behind a lot and it was
Speaker 1: because of Guinea taking forever and they had to basically
Speaker 1: go up and be like, dude, you need to speed
Speaker 1: it up, like what are you doing? So and I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember Charlie, who was you know, he kept coming
Speaker 1: over because he was like the head tournament director, and
Speaker 1: he would kept coming over. He'd be like Peters, what's
Speaker 1: the update. And I would just show him the page,
Speaker 1: you know, the reporting page, and I'd be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, this table's on hand twenty seven, this table's
Speaker 1: on hand eleven, you know, or whatever. He's like he
Speaker 1: would write it down on his spiecepaper and he would
Speaker 1: go back and then he would come back like twenty
Speaker 1: minutes later.
Speaker 2: But what's the update that would that kept happening. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was the best when we did that that, I mean,
Speaker 2: it was it was fun, it was chaos. It was
Speaker 2: we were doing the outer table, so we didn't have
Speaker 2: stats of graphics, so we had two field reporters just
Speaker 2: running may hands.
Speaker 1: That's when the Jim guy almost hit Mickey happen. It
Speaker 1: might be our jib guy. Yeah, yeah, I remember. I
Speaker 1: remember Rich Ryan was doing it, producer Rich shout out
Speaker 1: he I mean, he this is this was the best.
Speaker 1: That was the best, is I see. I always thought that,
Speaker 1: like because we I remember, I remember we talked about it.
Speaker 1: I remember like that day we because I was running
Speaker 1: the team and I was like, guys, you think we
Speaker 1: can pull us off? And everyone was on board. Everyone's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can do it, Like we can get this done.
Speaker 1: You know, it's really no different than doing hand for
Speaker 1: hand on a single table. You just need to have
Speaker 1: you have enough people that can do it on your team,
Speaker 1: and you need to all be able to coordinate and
Speaker 1: like get it all on the blogs and just make
Speaker 1: sure that it's happening.
Speaker 2: You know those days though it was it was like
Speaker 2: there was a day where you and me I remember
Speaker 2: it might have been rich producer rich, but like I
Speaker 2: think Pava set us a challenge to do like X
Speaker 2: number of pages in a blog, and we just did it,
Speaker 2: like we wanted to challenge ourselves back then. And when
Speaker 2: you bring up, hey, let's try hand for hand three
Speaker 2: titles out, I was like, oh, yeah, let's try it.
Speaker 1: But it was like we wanted to, like we wanted
Speaker 1: to do it and make sure we like achieved it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we did it, and I think we did it
Speaker 1: for two years, yeah, and if I remember correctly, but
Speaker 1: I always thought my idea was like, Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do this, and I remember the next year came up
Speaker 1: like okay, we're doing it again for sure. And then
Speaker 1: I just had always thought that, like you know, kind
Speaker 1: of every year you would like add a table. Essentially
Speaker 1: you would do four tables, then you would do five tables,
Speaker 1: like and eventually you get to like you're freaking hand
Speaker 1: for handing like thirty tables. It's like it's like day
Speaker 1: six of the main right, but like that that's how
Speaker 1: I thought like the evolution of live reporting would kind
Speaker 1: of go yeah, you know, because and a lot of
Speaker 1: it also was over Like as I'm running the team
Speaker 1: at Poker and New it was like, you pee, all
Speaker 1: these different people come up to you. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have this app or I have this product, or
Speaker 1: I have this tablet or this system or whatever to
Speaker 1: that solve live reporting, and they all sucked. Nothing worked, okay,
Speaker 1: Like honestly that we would always revert to pad and
Speaker 1: paper and put right on our computer, you know, or
Speaker 1: if you had one of those like electric notepads, like
Speaker 1: that was good too.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: Again, Producer Rich always ahead of the curve, he had
Speaker 1: one of those. Yeah. I always just thought that it
Speaker 1: would that's how it would like it would advance or progress, right,
Speaker 1: and it's it didn't. But that's I mean, that's fine whatever.
Speaker 1: But I just always thought that, you know, we'd get
Speaker 1: to like now, and then we could look back and
Speaker 1: we'd be like, remember when we started doing that, and
Speaker 1: look how crazy it is now when they're they're hand
Speaker 1: for hand and forty five tables and there's there's six
Speaker 1: thousand reporters here running around. I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like that a tient right in a way. Yeah kind of.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and they and they did develop an appeah
Speaker 1: or their platform or whatever it is. I haven't personally
Speaker 1: worked with it, but you know they have like it's
Speaker 1: essentially an extra dealer standing behind the table, punching in
Speaker 1: all of the actions. Yeah, you know, so they definitely
Speaker 1: did develop and it is sick. Now. It does involve
Speaker 1: a lot of extra manpower, like you got to have
Speaker 1: an extra dealer or two or whatever it is for
Speaker 1: every single table. So that that's you know, much like
Speaker 1: we talk about in the studio, things are just more controlled.
Speaker 1: There's fewer tables. You can do certain things, whereas you
Speaker 1: know Doubsby Main Event Day one D when there's four
Speaker 1: hundred tables in play, like you can't do it then, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean unless you want to hire four or five
Speaker 1: hundred people. But sure, you know, good luck with that.
Speaker 1: That's just ridiculous. Anyway. I have no idea where we are,
Speaker 1: but we're here, So all right, let's go, John Shorman.
Speaker 1: Did you already talk about first place in this event? Yes,
Speaker 1: so we did. So if if the PLO eight gets
Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty six entries, what is the ten
Speaker 1: k PLO get to get six fifty five? What did
Speaker 1: it get last year? Let me pull it up and
Speaker 1: who won last year? I wasn't lou Garza was here
Speaker 1: the year before.
Speaker 2: Or two fifty nine last year? What won by Sean Troja?
Speaker 2: So quite a big that's insanely bigger. Yeah, it's three
Speaker 2: eighty six this year. Yeah, and then the two fifty.
Speaker 1: K might have one hundred and ten entries. By the way,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: The ten thousand version is this is this the time
Speaker 2: of the summer when we say the main event is
Speaker 2: going to have eleven thousand.
Speaker 1: Probably.
Speaker 2: Ten k below had a billion people eight hundred and eleven.
Speaker 2: That was one by Elie Nakashi. Yeah, so that one's
Speaker 2: going to have something around that. Yeah, e eleven. Did
Speaker 2: we see a bit of a down. We saw a
Speaker 2: bit of a down in the half and half. We
Speaker 2: thought that might be higher because a lot of the
Speaker 2: Euros here.
Speaker 1: We we don't think that the twenty five k have enough.
Speaker 1: The new event would just be higher than what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm wonderful that I'm wondering, you know, Like
Speaker 2: I was out there today, I didn't see the Yonis
Speaker 2: and the Elias.
Speaker 1: Now I know they don't play. Every time I see
Speaker 1: Yoni's Instagram, he's on some gold. Yeah, he's got he's
Speaker 1: got the best life. So will they be here in
Speaker 1: time for the ten k?
Speaker 2: Or are they waiting for the bigger stuff, the fifty
Speaker 2: to twenty five, the hundred. You know, maybe they don't
Speaker 2: get out of bed for a ten k anymore. We're
Speaker 2: not really sure with these guys. The finish Jason Coons. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we'll see with that one. But your massive increase
Speaker 2: in massive, massive shout out the plow White Championship.
Speaker 1: Shout out massive. All right, Thomas Boyven over in the
Speaker 1: one hundred k high Roller. This is another one of
Speaker 1: those events that bags at like, you know, six pm
Speaker 1: or some crazy so everyone can get home for dinner.
Speaker 1: But he busted Jesse Lonis, I believe, on the last
Speaker 1: hand of play to take the chip lead. Thomas Boyven
Speaker 1: has three point eight million. I don't even know how
Speaker 1: to say this name, nor have I ever even seen
Speaker 1: it in my life. Emilion Patavi, who's that?
Speaker 2: He's been playing the like he's beading the Day two
Speaker 2: coverage for US. I don't think he's made the stream yet,
Speaker 2: but he's been playing well. Good benchman, I think right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Second Chips Jia Vira, we all know him. Third
Speaker 1: Chips Vinni Lingham, who spent plenty of time on high
Speaker 1: stakes poker, is in fourth. Brandon Steven also on I
Speaker 1: S this is this is the high stakes poker tournament.
Speaker 1: See this is a ninth place. Chris Unickan this is
Speaker 1: more big. He must have miss click registered the living.
Speaker 1: I really like seeing this name in sixth place. It
Speaker 1: makes me feel kind of all kind of warm, warm
Speaker 1: and tingling tice. Wow, like the kid's all grown up.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's playing one hundred k's, he's playing
Speaker 1: fifty k's twenty five k like he's he's made it.
Speaker 1: I love it. It warms my It's like it's like
Speaker 1: poker's little kid is just growing up before our eyes
Speaker 1: and we are sending him off to high school, you know,
Speaker 1: or maybe this is sending him off to college. I
Speaker 1: don't know, whatever it is. He's he's growing up before
Speaker 1: our eyes, and it's just it's just simply incredible. Isaac
Speaker 1: Hackxton has a stack, not Joe Barbaro. I'm sure that's
Speaker 1: an absolute party, Jeremy Osmas. Come on, Jeremy, let's go, buddy.
Speaker 1: Come on. You know funny thing. I got my haircut today,
Speaker 1: as you know. And the woman who cuts my hair,
Speaker 1: who is best friends with my wife her this is
Speaker 1: this is a long o god thing. Her brother, her
Speaker 1: brother's kids are friends with Jeremy's kids. Okay, so she
Speaker 1: knows Jeremy like through this connection. But she was asking
Speaker 1: me today, She's like, oh, I haven't seen Jeremy's name anywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he hasn't done shit. Okay, he isn't anything. And
Speaker 1: I know because we spend one hundred and forty one
Speaker 1: dollars on him and twenty five ky fansy and he
Speaker 1: hasn't done much. So let's go now. That said, I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about it yet. Jeremy's going to do plenty
Speaker 1: of stuff this summer. It's still early, Okay. This event
Speaker 1: is number thirty eight. Remember there are one hundred gold
Speaker 1: Bracelet events. Okay, I think Jeremy is in for some
Speaker 1: big stuff still this year. D Nags also bagged chips
Speaker 1: in this tournament. Set Davies also on our team. Here
Speaker 1: we go, he also bagged chips, So let's go, and
Speaker 1: then I'm guessing this one we'll have, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know a dozen or two dozen Max lay Red
Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. Fifteen hundred dollars Monster stack,
Speaker 1: how many this thing get?
Speaker 2: Alright, so far, eighteen hundred and seventy three entrance Statman's
Speaker 2: four hundred and seventy six are through to day two.
Speaker 2: Biggest noteb I saw was poker Face Ash She's she's
Speaker 2: a lugger. She's up there in the top twenty. Cherish
Speaker 2: Andrews thirty third in chips, Andreospachenko fresh off his runner out,
Speaker 2: finished forty first.
Speaker 1: In chips, andros A Chenko, you know, crushing.
Speaker 2: Crushing now eighteen hundred players last year twenty three hundred players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they have the extra plate. We've got an
Speaker 1: extra fly.
Speaker 2: And there's been some big one days over at the Aria,
Speaker 2: over at our friends Paul Campell, Ryan Kirk over there
Speaker 2: crushing some big one one day one keys and stuff.
Speaker 1: Mystery Bounie's here and there.
Speaker 2: So you know, knowing that there's four flights with the monsters,
Speaker 2: that you probably expect a few of those guys to
Speaker 2: to dabble in in some of those one dayers in
Speaker 2: these early days. So last year Monsterstak had a total
Speaker 2: of eighty seven hundred players. You know who might be
Speaker 2: your We're in some of those one days, Uh, Steven Song,
Speaker 2: Jeremy Becker because he bagged in the Monster Stack. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was here on the rail for a while. I
Speaker 2: feel like he's on and then go play like a
Speaker 2: couple of Ario one days between.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was sweating Nick Shulman. Is Nick's
Speaker 1: on the fantasy team. No, I'm pretty sure Nick is
Speaker 1: on team Splash Sports who had a freaking day because
Speaker 1: they have Yeah, it's Nick is on there to Nick
Speaker 1: and Jason Kuhn are on this team. Wow, they on top. No,
Speaker 1: they're not on top, but they're in second.
Speaker 2: That's the Monster Stack numbers obviously right now trending to
Speaker 2: be lower than last year.
Speaker 1: But we know that's good. Not gonna yes, but also
Speaker 1: at least I thought Colossus was gonna get up to
Speaker 1: last year and then it felt pretty short. So the money,
Speaker 1: the money structure, it's the structure too. Yes, it's the money.
Speaker 1: The structures. Also, I would be curious, is this structure
Speaker 1: the same and they simply just added a day for the.
Speaker 2: Monster Stack for the Monster well, what I found out
Speaker 2: today and I think this is not Rosemont but a
Speaker 2: colleague of ours, Jason, the guy that we you know
Speaker 2: good Snacks Rum.
Speaker 1: He was playing the Monster Stack today. Wow. Now he
Speaker 1: was going to maxilate. No wonder the snacks have sucked.
Speaker 2: She was going to maxilate with twenty bigs and we
Speaker 2: were looking at the app together. He only had to
Speaker 2: play one level before they bagged.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah.
Speaker 2: Now we were like, is the app wrong? It's a
Speaker 2: structure sheet wrong. But like we thought that was a
Speaker 2: little weird.
Speaker 1: I wish it. Let's see if he bagged.
Speaker 2: So, you know, that seems very odd to me that
Speaker 2: you would play that long, that you'd have such late
Speaker 2: registration and then only played one hour after that. Looks
Speaker 2: like he bagged twenty six k eight big blinds, so
Speaker 2: he's through to day two. Nice little hour of work
Speaker 2: there to make day two.
Speaker 1: So that's to me to be weird. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the structure sheets for last year and this year. It
Speaker 1: looks the same. I got fifty thousand starting stack, sixty
Speaker 1: minute levels, you started one hundred, two hundred. Everything looks
Speaker 1: the same, registration same. Let me look at that. Where's
Speaker 1: it say that late registation ten levels, ten levels yep
Speaker 1: on day one, same eleven levels, So weird, right, both? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean everything seems the exact same in this one. Yeah. Both.
Speaker 1: You know, they did the thing where it's anyway, they
Speaker 1: did the thing where you can re enter the next flight,
Speaker 1: so freeze out per flight. Oh okay, that's what remember,
Speaker 1: that's what they do in the Monstack. And everyone always
Speaker 1: asks Kevin Math eight thousand times yep on social media
Speaker 1: if if you can re enter in a Monster stack.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so this one does look identical structures. Forgive
Speaker 1: me if I am wrong, but looking at it does
Speaker 1: look the same. So I would say that because it's
Speaker 1: the same and they added another flight, I think they'll
Speaker 1: at least meet last year, if not top it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I also think that they got a nice starting window,
Speaker 1: not running this in the middle of the week, kicking
Speaker 1: it off on Thursday. So I think this one's going
Speaker 1: to be quite big and people love this tournament. I
Speaker 1: always wanted to play it. I've never been able to
Speaker 1: because it takes like it once. It takes like seven
Speaker 1: days if you go deep. Not that I'm ever going
Speaker 1: to go deep, but you know, I always just I
Speaker 1: like to, you know, in my head have a little fantasy,
Speaker 1: you know, future projection that I'm going to go deep,
Speaker 1: but you know that's never gonna happen. The fifteen horse,
Speaker 1: I go, I got the up there for you. Get
Speaker 1: it up baby.
Speaker 2: On a day to one hundred and ninety five playes Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you've already saying.
Speaker 1: That, Yeah that's my boy, Nico Baby.
Speaker 2: I eat hundred sixty seven entrance to about sixty from
Speaker 2: the money thirteen chips, as you said, by this especial
Speaker 2: celebrating Nicko.
Speaker 1: See the best he might be. I mean he's he's
Speaker 1: the greatest. The guy is. The guy is awesome. Another
Speaker 1: another notable up there, Greg Mule eighteen chips and Drew
Speaker 1: Kelso Ryan last Horse. Yeah, he place horse. I've seen
Speaker 1: him play horse. Oh my gosh. Calvan Andersen I did
Speaker 1: get yelled at the other day for saying that Josh
Speaker 1: Reiker plays Piolo like I questioned it and I got
Speaker 1: yelled at. Wow. But yeah, that doesn't mean they play
Speaker 1: it well. I know that is true. One hundred ninety
Speaker 1: seven k there for first eight sixty seven. Have a
Speaker 1: quick look. Freaking good is Nico man? This guy is
Speaker 1: the best. So here we go. This is interesting.
Speaker 2: Eighty sixty seven only a small increase last year thirty
Speaker 2: two entrants more.
Speaker 1: But that's that's what that's that's fine.
Speaker 2: That was one by Phil Hoe, by the way, for
Speaker 2: Crusher one ninety three k in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: They're bagging up over in that Plowe. Yeah. Do they
Speaker 1: have the chip guns in yet? Probably not. We got
Speaker 1: to know how Johnny Johnny Shortman did. What else are
Speaker 1: we missing today? Sure? Just just the just the best,
Speaker 1: the hit rate that we have for sub five dollars players,
Speaker 1: and this should drop sub five I should really just
Speaker 1: have sub five dollars players. It's just simply incredible, it
Speaker 1: really is. It's absolutely incredible. You're gonna talk about tomorrow's events.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've got the the Sweet lou Special, the
Speaker 2: Limit Hold Them Championship. He came and got a lucky
Speaker 2: hold on.
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 4: Oh that?
Speaker 2: I was really confused. I was like, wait, Lou is
Speaker 2: playing Limit the Sweet Loue. He came and got a
Speaker 2: hat from us yesterday. I believe in preparation for the
Speaker 2: Limit Hold Them Championship, which is playing with Chi final table.
Speaker 2: I believe last year, so that kicks off Limit Hold
Speaker 2: Them Championship. That's the afternoon event. Now in the morning,
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we have the Day one B the
Speaker 2: month SAC, but we have the five thousand dollars by
Speaker 2: Seniors high Roller, and this is one of the events
Speaker 2: on the schedule that I kind of marked that. Let's
Speaker 2: see how this app does. Are we going to see
Speaker 2: the scene is just jumping now before.
Speaker 1: It's your new sea draws on your phone. I can't
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 2: I can't get yeah exactly, but I'm gonna look at
Speaker 2: this singing is hyrolla nine hours away? Right ten hours away?
Speaker 2: They've already got one hundred and thirty one players registered.
Speaker 1: In the course of course, they're all gonna meet for
Speaker 1: fucking pastries and coffee in the fucking way at eight
Speaker 1: thirty am. What are you talking about it? I have newspapers.
Speaker 2: I often scroll the app to see how many people register,
Speaker 2: and you know, like salute to wires for example.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I always think it's twenty nine.
Speaker 1: I go into the appsentime and I'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: one hundred k high Roller who's registered? Yeah, exactly. The
Speaker 1: scen is day one sixty eight already.
Speaker 2: So this thing is we might be thinking all this wrong,
Speaker 2: but they may be on top of everything when it
Speaker 2: comes to the verification.
Speaker 1: The WS people, for sure, they're they're they're more organized.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get things sorted at time. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: your normal pocaviers and show up day of and screw
Speaker 1: you know. Look, we might still have an issue. How
Speaker 1: many people are register for the ten K limit? Hold
Speaker 1: them two?
Speaker 2: Who do we think they are? Sweet lou is he Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, I haven't looked yet. And then Terrence Chan.
Speaker 2: Those are my two guesses, gonna say Matt Grapen thing. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I got Sweet Lou, I like, I like Hillman
Speaker 2: and Terrence Chan. I should take one more then give me.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I got no one. Yeah, we don't know
Speaker 2: either of these. Alex Tori, Riley Rosengren.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we tried, We tried. Is there anyone signed
Speaker 1: up for the two fifty k? Jason kuons White, Well,
Speaker 1: let's find it. Where When is that that's coming up soon? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It starts on the fifteenth. I heard one play.
Speaker 2: Oh this is gonna be I'll say, David Peters. But
Speaker 2: I'm saying that because I've seen.
Speaker 1: I've seen him registered only too. He was one of
Speaker 1: the two players registered for the letter. I saw that too.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the other person that was registered,
Speaker 1: Belcher or whatever his name. Take Belcher. Okay, I got it.
Speaker 1: Register for everything. He might have registered. Yea, he might
Speaker 1: be that guy. He just register everything and can withdraw. Right.
Speaker 1: Remember when you used to I heard a story. I
Speaker 1: have no idea if this is confirmed or not, but
Speaker 1: back at the Rio, you could register for tournaments and
Speaker 1: they would give you the food comp the food come
Speaker 1: didn't Alan Kestler like register for all of them and
Speaker 1: then get the food comps and then if you if
Speaker 1: you just don't play it, you still get the company. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If that's not true, I'm sorry, but that's what I heard.
Speaker 1: Definitely allegedly I'm saying allegedly Alan. Okay, he's saying.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it to Alan, but definitely you could
Speaker 2: do that and get the food comps that I had
Speaker 2: also heard that.
Speaker 1: Alan, Well, I'm gonna say that if anyone did do that,
Speaker 1: is is Alans for sure? Uh? Yeah? The senor is tomorrow.
Speaker 2: The limit had them championship Day one of the month,
Speaker 2: second most importantly too, of the hundred k that we
Speaker 2: astream me on Poker Go kicking off at about four
Speaker 2: point thirty cards in the s seven pm stream, that's
Speaker 2: gonna be a good one to watch, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm going to be a Venetian for the
Speaker 1: early part of the day, putting the here at I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this right now. As much as I love
Speaker 1: doing commentary over at the Venetian, because I do, I
Speaker 1: really do, I just you guys know how I am.
Speaker 1: I don't like to be pulled away from the World Series.
Speaker 1: I want to be here. I want to be in it.
Speaker 1: This is the greatest tournament series in the world. I
Speaker 1: want to be here until they pry me off of
Speaker 1: this place or off the floor like I want. I
Speaker 1: want to be here, I want, And then when I
Speaker 1: come in late, I feel like I'm just all out
Speaker 1: of swords. I gotta figure out what the heck is
Speaker 1: going on. So, yeah, Senior's high Roller? How many did
Speaker 1: it get last year? That was in Mark Chekwitz run it.
Speaker 1: He was dressed. I think we'reing a cookie monster off it,
Speaker 1: something like something whackl like that.
Speaker 2: Well, it was after the other seniors event, so that
Speaker 2: I think matters had before.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it had six hundred and eighty players.
Speaker 1: Isn't that weird? Like why wouldn't you go like seniors
Speaker 1: super seniors seniors high roller because then people that cash
Speaker 1: for good money in the seniors and the super seniors
Speaker 1: then just throw it into the senior's highroller. Yeah, obviously
Speaker 1: that is the smartest way to do it. Also, different
Speaker 1: siroller be ten k. Didn't they just have a ten k?
Speaker 1: They just had a ten K seniors hiroller at the win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but last year as it was five K, I like
Speaker 1: five K though I like the five hit price one.
Speaker 2: Uh, this year's Seniors Championship, I should actually check last year,
Speaker 2: but it's starting off the Father's Day. Previous years it
Speaker 2: has started kind of on that Father's Day weekend. But
Speaker 2: yet the high roller before is a little odd. But
Speaker 2: you know, like we've kind of touched on with the
Speaker 2: additional flights in some of these kind of bigger field events,
Speaker 2: you know, things have had to be slotted in spots
Speaker 2: where they're not normally used to. So sure it is
Speaker 2: a giant puzzle piece, just like the MLB's schedule or
Speaker 2: any kind of the NFL schedule and anything like that
Speaker 2: same kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So they're doing their best.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that will affect the numbers definitely,
Speaker 2: and we'll kind of I guess we'll kind of gauge
Speaker 2: that tomorrow and then into day two when prize pool
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff is set.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the worst tournament on the schedule
Speaker 1: was coming up, and it is hands down the worst tournament.
Speaker 1: For what reason would you say that? Come on, man,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get in your head about chop one
Speaker 1: tournament off of the schedule. This wouldn't be me. It
Speaker 1: was a fifteen hundred limit. Hold them, No, that one
Speaker 1: is way better than what I'm going to say.
Speaker 2: Give me one sick, give me one sick coming up.
Speaker 2: You're not going to say that because you would get
Speaker 2: yelled at. What would I can yell at about if
Speaker 2: you wanted to chop the salute to Warriors Charity?
Speaker 1: You know, And I like, you're gonna say that for
Speaker 1: some bro?
Speaker 4: Get this?
Speaker 1: What hot nonsense? I can't handle. That's a classic. It's
Speaker 1: been around forever. Yeah I know it, Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know it should be extinct like the dinosaurs getting out
Speaker 1: of here. This is the tournament every time I hear
Speaker 1: people play it, they all they do is complain about
Speaker 1: it the whole time. That's the why it's the best.
Speaker 1: It's a giant pain in the ass to cover. It's
Speaker 1: hard to follow. It feels like it's never ending. It
Speaker 1: feels like you're just walking in quicksand the whole time
Speaker 1: with is non stop split pots. No see, y'all.
Speaker 2: I canna tell you the numbers for the events. Sure,
Speaker 2: that's incredible. Five hundred and then lost four to six
Speaker 2: year before that. That took a couple of years off
Speaker 2: four O one four O two four our five three
Speaker 2: eighty four four seventy four four seven.
Speaker 1: This event performs. Okay, if you were to chop one
Speaker 1: tournament off the skin fife, I P limit hold all right,
Speaker 1: i'm r I P the Oe tournament. Is that all
Speaker 1: we got? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well yeah, we're streaming tomorrow. We'll streaming today Thursday, June twelfth,
Speaker 2: seven pm. We're gonna pick up day two coverage of
Speaker 2: the hundred K. That's the important watch.
Speaker 1: It on go. How many hats do you give out?
Speaker 2: That that's the next I gave out a lot of hats,
Speaker 2: gave one guy I wanted two hats because he's friend
Speaker 2: asked him to get one at the same time.
Speaker 1: He was good, Yeah, I allowed it if that's if
Speaker 1: this happens. Okay, I don't know if this is a
Speaker 1: thing because you're Australian and but like in the school
Speaker 1: system when you were like out of school, you had
Speaker 1: to bring a doctor's note. Yeah. Yeah, like if you're
Speaker 1: claiming to have for yourself, okay and your buddy, I
Speaker 1: need a note from the buddy, like I need a note.
Speaker 1: It needs to be handwritten, signed. We don't have to
Speaker 1: go as far as notarizing it, but he should have
Speaker 1: the password on it and all that sort of stuff. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: I understand there might be some shenanigans that go on
Speaker 1: with that. Maybe there's forgery, maybe there's not. But I
Speaker 1: still want a handwritten note from the front. Hey, I
Speaker 1: couldn't make it because I'm stick in bed. This is why,
Speaker 1: signed Jim Smith from Iowa. Yeah, family, I think that's fine.
Speaker 1: Handnotes people are. We ain't giving up multiple hats. I've
Speaker 1: had a lot of hats today gave us.
Speaker 2: I gave out one to I believe his name was Sam,
Speaker 2: gave out Probably messed that up last year's hats because
Speaker 2: a couple of people didn't get it, and we still
Speaker 2: have some of those. So if you miss out on
Speaker 2: this hat and you didn't get last years, we still
Speaker 2: have that. We have some of those. Yeah, gave out
Speaker 2: a few. I would say we have forty six left.
Speaker 2: I'm completely guessing, but you know, I just had a
Speaker 2: DM from a poker player right right. Henson was like, hey,
Speaker 2: can I get a hat? Password is this?
Speaker 1: Said?
Speaker 2: All right, well, you have to come tell me where
Speaker 2: you're sitting. I can't just bring it to Houston or
Speaker 2: something use that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's playing. I haven't seen it
Speaker 2: a few days. So yeah, we do have seal some
Speaker 2: come get them, you know, justin.
Speaker 1: Zaggie get his head. No, no, yeah, I haven't seen him.
Speaker 2: Actually, it's been busting to theaments early because he left
Speaker 2: these guddamn lucky hand on the ground. One guy actually
Speaker 2: was wearing the first year's hat, right, the og hat,
Speaker 2: and he said, as he tracked me down, I'm walking
Speaker 2: back to our area to give him the hat. Some
Speaker 2: of the guy comes running down the hall. He's like, family, family,
Speaker 2: Can I get one too? I was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: For him, and they were saying, yeah, lucky you hat.
Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna I just got into town. I'm
Speaker 2: playing tomorrow the guy that was running odd ones. Well,
Speaker 2: the trick is you have to rub the logo, you know,
Speaker 2: before you tell the car, so before you go all in.
Speaker 1: I'm going to try that next time I play and
Speaker 1: I wear that hat.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we given about We're given at least half
Speaker 2: the hats, maybe a few more. So if you are
Speaker 2: in town and you want one, please come by. We
Speaker 2: are not playing any favorites, no favoritism. You have to
Speaker 2: come here and get it. Say the the magic words
Speaker 2: family Pot. You met you, you gave one to Zach
Speaker 2: Zach Gilbert, Yes, I did that, gave one to him, yep.
Speaker 1: He told me he met you. Yep, when I was
Speaker 1: a Revenetian.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so we probably need a family pot story
Speaker 2: soon too, don't really haven't you know what I've got
Speaker 2: to You know, it's my son's birthday this weekend turns nine.
Speaker 2: Going back to we've gone to those was the jumping Castle,
Speaker 2: the explode zone, exploded sky zone, we got the trampolines
Speaker 2: in the ground. Okay, we've been there last four years
Speaker 2: doesn't want to change his birthday party venue. And what
Speaker 2: it means is, after leaving here at three am, I
Speaker 2: have to go sleep four hours, wake up, drive him
Speaker 2: to this thing, and I'm obviously going to jump around,
Speaker 2: so I'm tired. I'm gonna get sweaty, maybe throw out
Speaker 2: my back or pull a hamstring, chasing kids, and then
Speaker 2: come here for fifteen sixteen hours to work with you.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure something's going to developed from that today,
Speaker 2: and maybe that's our first family part.
Speaker 1: All right, well, I'm looking forward to it. I'll try
Speaker 1: and drum on myself, but for that, we're out here
Speaker 1: for this episode. His name is Tim Duckworth. My name
Speaker 1: is done. We didn't wait, wait, we didn't mention the
Speaker 1: poker pea cus Oh my god, hold on, rewind, okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead. We talked about the poker peak cards. I
Speaker 1: ordered some.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, right, if you guys can see them here, right,
Speaker 2: I can't believe these are actually real things. You got there?
Speaker 2: You take those ones. It's got the peaks on all
Speaker 2: four sides, so you know you don't look at it
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: You peak it. That's the whole point. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you got it wrong.
Speaker 2: What do you mean I'm peaking the corner. No, you
Speaker 2: don't look at them like normal cards. You look at them,
Speaker 2: you put them like this, and then you're just like,
Speaker 2: look at the bottom.
Speaker 1: That's what I was doing. Look, I'm peaking from any side.
Speaker 1: That's the literally peeling up the corner. That's the beauty
Speaker 1: of them. You know, you got every side, you can
Speaker 1: look at them. These are the poker peaks. We are
Speaker 1: for sure going to get a message in the morning
Speaker 1: from producer Richmond like, what the hell was the last
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of this.
Speaker 2: Podcast and I brought this to so put some batteries,
Speaker 2: you guys are going to save this time. May take
Speaker 2: a picture of Milwaukee best Light.
Speaker 1: There's a reason these cards did not survive. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at these things. They're hideous.
Speaker 2: If you guys are listening, this is the time to
Speaker 2: tune into the YouTube version. But for you guys watching
Speaker 2: Milwaukee best Light, this is a meeting. I'm going to
Speaker 2: try and describe this. So mini be a can about
Speaker 2: an inch and a half tall, but it's a torch.
Speaker 2: Push the little button here. Okay, you can't really see this,
Speaker 2: but maybe I'll do it on the hat.
Speaker 1: So what the torch is.
Speaker 2: It's the WSP logo and it says twenty two thousand
Speaker 2: and seven WSP Main Event. So this is what we
Speaker 2: got when we played the main event. I played the
Speaker 2: main event this year that year. You can kind of
Speaker 2: see you say, look, it's pretty cool. Okay, let's let's
Speaker 2: get out of here. I can't sit here with Daniel bubblehead,
Speaker 2: Daniel with that Burgo podcast, with our timing cention, with
Speaker 2: out it's overnight, and that poker peacause the set is
Speaker 2: slowly building.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a ginormous set come July sixteenth,
Speaker 1: A ginormous set, he says, come July sixth. Look we
Speaker 1: are the best of these things. We've got a plant.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you do with all the aces? Huh?
Speaker 1: What do you do all the other over there? All right,
Speaker 1: all right, that's Tim Duckworth. I am Donnie Peters. We'll
Speaker 1: talk to you guys next time.
Speaker 2: J Well