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your support getting more acclaim and praise for my flawless

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pronunciation of all of the Iranian names. Again today, thank

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you very much. I appreciate I you know, I do

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it for you like I. It's like I blend. I

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could probably blend in in the Iranian population with these pronunciations.

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So much time I have spent working on the pronunciations. Okay,

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we have a statement that was issued yesterday by the

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First Lady Milania Trump, and I'm not sure, okay, is

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this is this the distraction or because okay, you'll understand it, man,

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if you haven't heard this. Milania Trump came out, she

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gave like a five minute speech. She walked out and

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didn't take any questions afterwards. She came out. She read

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a statement. I'm going to give you some of the

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highlights here, but she made her statement regarding Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: The lies linking me with the disgraceful Jeffrey Epstein need

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to end today. The individual's lying about me a devoid

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of ethical standards, humility, and respect. I do not object

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to dear ignorance, but rather iro jagged their means spirited

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attempts to defame my reputation.

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Speaker 1: All right. She then goes on to say that she

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was never friends with Epstein. She said Donald Trump and

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she and she were invited to the same parties as

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Epstein from time to time, since they have overlapping social

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circles in both New York City and Palm Beach. So

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if they were ever at an event and he was there,

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then obviously they would both be at this event because

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they both got imitations and they both lived in both

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of these cities.

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Speaker 2: To be clear, I never had a relationship with Epstein

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or his accomplice Maxwell. My email reply to Maxwell cannot

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be categorist as anything more than casual correspondence. My polite

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reply to her email as an amount to anything more

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than a.

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Speaker 1: Tribal note trivial notes.

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Speaker 2: I am not Epstein's victim. Epstein did not introduce me

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to Donald Trump. I met my husband by chance at

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the New York City party in nineteen ninety eight. This

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initial accounter with my husband is documented in a detail

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in my book Millennia.

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Speaker 1: All right, so what is this email she's talking about.

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Among the documents released by the Justice Department was a

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brief email from two thousand and two with the sender

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and the recipient blacked out. The email begins dear G.

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The letter G with an exclamation point, and then it

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ends love, Millennia, and it complements the recipient on a

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magazine article about Jaye. It says, I know you are

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very busy flying all over the world. How is Palm Beach?

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I cannot wait to go down. Give me a call

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when you are back in New York. That email was

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sent the same month that a New York magazine article

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was published about Epstein in which Trump called him a

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quote terrific guy. Among other documents released was an image

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from Epstein's home showing a series of photographs that were

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lined up in frames along a credenza and some in drawers.

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In one image, inside a drawer. Among other photos was

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a photograph of Trump alongside Epstein, Millenia and Gallaine Maxwell.

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You've probably seen this photo. So this is what she

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is responding responding to regarding the email which people have

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been apparently trying to say proves that she was like

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a victim of Epstein's or she was like part of

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the operation or something, or in you know that she

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was introduced to Trump by Jeffrey app She said the

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first time she ever crossed paths with Epstein was in

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the year two thousand, at an event that Donald Trump

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and she attended together. She said, at that time, I

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had never met Epstein and had no knowledge of his

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criminal undertakings.

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Speaker 2: Numerous fake images and statements about Epstein and me have

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been calculating on social media for years now. Be cautious

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about what you believe. These images and stories are completely false.

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I'm not a witness or a name witness in connection

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with any of Epstein's crimes. My name has never appeared

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in core documents, the positions, victim statements, or FBI in

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interviews surrounding the Epstein matter. I have never had any

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knowledge of epstein abuse of his victims. I was never

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involved in any capacity. I was not a participant, was

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never on Epstein's plane, and never visited his private island.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I have been informed, that reliably informed that

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the war in Iran it was meant to be a

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distraction from the Epstein files. So is this a distraction

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then from the Iran war? To distract us from the

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Epstein files? Because this seems like it's going to draw

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some more attention onto the Epstein files issue. No, guys,

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I'm losing track of what the distraction is, you know,

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and what they're trying to distract me from. She went

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on to say, I have never been legally accused or

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convicted of a crime in connection with Epstein's sex trafficking,

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abuse of minors, and other repulsive behavior.

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Speaker 2: The false smears about me from mean spirited and politically

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motivated individuals and entities looking to cause damage to my

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good name to gain financially and climb politically must stop.

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My attorneys and I have fought these unfound and baseless

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lies with success and will continue to maintain my sound

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reputation without hesitation. To date, several individuals and companies have

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been legally obligated to publicly apologize and retract their lies

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about me, such as Daily Beast, James Carville and Harper

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call Uk.

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Speaker 1: All right, so from the story at the Associated Press,

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it was not clear what prompted the First Lady to

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revive the issue, She notes, either again just I'm distracted again.

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She noted that several individuals and organizations have had to

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apologize for their lies about her, and of the example

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she cited, the most recent was in October. In that case,

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book publisher HarperCollins UK apologized to the First Lady and

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retracted passages from a book suggesting that Epstein played a

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role in introducing her and Donald Trump when they actually

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just met at a party in nineteen ninety eight in

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New York City. She then went on to conclude that

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now is the time for Congress to act. Epstein was

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not alone. Several prominent male executives resigned from their powerful

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positions after this matter became widely politicized. Of course, this

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doesn't amount to guilt, but we still must work openly

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and transparently to uncover the truth. I call on Congress

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to provide the women who have been victimized by Epstein

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with a public hearing specifically centered around the survivors. Give

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these victims their opportunity to testify under oath in front

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of Congress with the power of sworn testimony. Each and

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every woman should have her day to tell her story

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in public if she wishes, and then her testimony should

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be permanently entered into the Congressional record. Then and only

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then will we have the truth. Yes, let's get some

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of these people under oath, because while there are a

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lot of victims, there are also some people in the

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mix that are taking advantage of the money that has

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been opened up. So yes, let's get everybody under oath

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and then let every victim tell their story and get

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the Associated Press. After Milanie's speech, two of Epstein's accusers,

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Maria and Annie Farmer, said in a statement quote what

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we want is accountability, transparency, and justice. Former Congresswoman Marjorie

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Taylor Green, one time fierce Trump's supporter who resigned from

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Congress after a public falling out with the president, posted

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on Twitter, I am grateful to the first Lady for

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her brave statement today about Epstein and his victims. Democrats

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meanwhile jumped on Mlanie. Wow, they jumped on her comments.

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Democrats jumped. I mean they didn't pounce. Pouncing and seizing.

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That's what Republicans do, right, That's how the media always

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describes the reactions of Republicans. They're always pouncing or seizing,

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sometimes both. But Democrats apparently have this ability to jump

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on some comments too, So that's okay. So they were like, yes,

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we agree. Congressional hearing Marjorie Taylor Green speaking of her

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she was She was named in a truth social post

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by Trump, along with the residents of podcast to Stand.

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I'm gonna get to that in a minute. Let me

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get to some text messages. Uh seven o four number,

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says Pete. I've been saying this for years. Why should

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it take congressional action? Any girl could talk to the

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Feds and take the stand. We could really get this

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moving if they wanted to. Why is it so complicated?

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Look there, I have I've got questions. I've watched some

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interviews with a guy named Michael Tracy. I don't know

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how much, you know, I get. I get a certain

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vibe off of this guy that makes me not really

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want to believe all of the things that he's saying,

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But he raises I think some valid questions about some,

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not all, but some of the people that have come

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forward as quote victims, some of whom in their depositions

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and interviews that they gave years and years ago, like

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they never claimed any kind of abuse. They claimed they

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went there and did massages for Epstein, but there were

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no other men that were ever named. Some went on

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to recruit other girls from their school in order to

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you know, make some money doing the massages and stuff.

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and there was this big fund that was created millions

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and millions of dollars from the Epstein estate, all of

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a sudden you start getting a lot of people that

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are coming out claiming that they were victims, and so

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I mean I don't know, like where are the the

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you know, people that are accusing men of being the offenders, Like,

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where are those Where are those accusations. Let me see here,

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I've got okay, good, I think I'm caught up there, Carvel, Carvill,

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James Carvill, Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Nick Fouentes, all examples

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of why you should never wear a tinfoil hat that

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is too tight. Good advice, John from Jersey, Some good advice,

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all right. So Donald J. Trump truth socialed a scathing,

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darn near essay on how terrible a bunch of people are,

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and he right out of the gate, he says, I

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know why. Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Candace Owens, and Ali

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Jones have all been fighting me for years, especially by

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the fact that they think it is wonderful for Iran,

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the number one state sponsor of terror, to have a

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nuclear weapon, because they have one thing in common low

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IQ's they're stupid people. They know it, their families know it,

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and everyone else knows it too. Look at their past,

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look at their record. They don't have what it takes,

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and they never did. They've all been thrown off television,

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lost their shows, and aren't even invited on TV because

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nobody cares about them. They're nut jobs, troublemakers and will

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say anything necessary for some free and cheap publicity. Now

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they think they get some clicks because they have third

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rate podcasts, but nobody's talking about them, and their views

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are the opposite of MAGA. Or I wouldn't have won

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the presidential election in a landslide. Now I would point

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out that he did win the election with the help

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of these people who told their audiences that they supported

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him campaign for him. In Megan Kelly's case, he says,

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Maga agrees with me and just gave CNN a one

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hundred percent approval rating of Trump, not hand flailing fools

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like Tucker Carlson who couldn't even finish college. He was

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a broken man when he got fired from Fox, and

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he's never been the same. Perhaps he should see a

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good psychiatrist. Or Megan Kelly who nastily asked me the

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now famous only Rosie O'Donnell question. Or crazy Candace Owens,

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who accuses the highly respected First Lady of France of

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being a man when she is not and will hopefully

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win lots of money in the ongoing lawsuit. Actually, to me,

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the First Lady of France is a far more beautiful

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woman than Candace. In fact, it's not even close or

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bankrupt Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest things

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and lost his entire fortune as he should have for

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his horrendous attack on the families of the Sandy Hook

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shooting victims, ridiculously claiming it was all a hoax. These

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so called pundits are losers and they always will be.

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New CNN, the failing New York Times, and all of

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the other radical left news organizations are hailing them and

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giving them positive press for the first time in their lives.

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They're not MAGA. They're losers just trying to latch onto MAGA.

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As president, I could get them on my side anytime

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I want to, But when they call, I don't return

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their calls because I'm too busy on world and country affairs.

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I only care about doing right for our country. MAGA

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have nuclear weapons. MAGA is about making America great again,

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and these people have no idea how to do that,

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but I do. Because the United States is now the

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dot com. So Yeah Podcast is Stan took a hit

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from the president rattling off all of these names, Tucker Carlson,

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Megan Kelly, Candice Owen's, Alex Jones, Marjorie Taylor Green, I

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threw in CNN, the New York Times, They're all in there.

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I'm sure there are a lot of people that are

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mad that they did not get a mention in any

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of this. But so is this the distraction from the

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Melania Epstein distraction from the war, which was a distraction

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from the Epstein files, which was a distraction from the economy, Right,

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was that I think I have that right? Just so distracted? Yeah,

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I did not. I did not expect Trump to to

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go after all of these people. And by the way,

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these hosts have been going after Donald Trump on Israel

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and the Iran war. They've been beating that drum and

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hammering Donald Trump, and Tucker Carlson called him evil and

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all of this. It's you know, so like, yeah, if

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you're going to dish it out, you're going to take it.

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You knew what you were doing by poking the bear,

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And like in Megan Kelly's case, he had previous experience

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with his very thing. So yeah, I'm of the opinion,

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you know, like the meme says, let them fight. Go

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for it, guys, you' all have at it. In a

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related story from Discover magazine, headline, a rare split of

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the world's largest known chimpanzee group turned former allies into enemies.

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A group of chimpanzees once groomed each other, traveled together

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and shared the same territory. After splitting into two groups,

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some are now hunting and killing their former allies. In

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a study published in Science, researchers analyzing nearly thirty years

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of observation of the Ingogo chimpanzees in the Kabale National

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Park in Uganda, they document a permanent split in a

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once unified group. By twenty eighteen, the community had been

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divided or had divided into two separate groups, and the

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two groups would no longer mix together, and that was

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followed by years of coordinated lethal attacks, a pattern some

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researchers say resembles a form of chimpanzee civil war. Did

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you have that one on your Bengo card for twenty

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twenty six No? I did not. For most of the study,

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the Ingogo chimpanzees functioned as a single, cohesive community. Individuals

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moved between flexible subgroups. They maintained social ties across the population,

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a pattern typical for chimpanzees, but that began to change

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around twenty fifteen with the housing market collapse I believe

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prompted that No, I'm kidding it began to change around

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twenty fifteen two clusters within the group, known as the

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Western subgroup and the Central subgroup. I have no idea

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how they came up with these subgroup names, but these

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two different subgroups they started spending more time apart and

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interacting less with each other. The shift followed a period

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of instability, including changes in the male dominance, hierarchy, and

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the deaths of several adult males that may have helped

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hold the larger group together. So over time the separation deepened,

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and by twenty eighteen, the split was complete. The chimps

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no longer mixed, and then each group had its own territory.

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And as the division solidified, aggression escalated, multiple attacks targeting

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adult males as well as infants. What does this all mean?

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Well break it down with Brett Winnable in a segment

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Pre Gaming with Brett winterbal Brett Winterable. Hello, sir, it

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is so good to be with you. Brett can be

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heard three to six right here on WBT weekdays. So

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before you entered el studio, Yes, I was talking about

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this study published in Science magazine. Have you heard about

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the chimpanzee civil war? Okay?

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Speaker 3: I love this because I'm a huge fan of monkeys

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and things like.

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Speaker 1: Well, this may make you said. These are the Google

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chimpanzees in the Kabale National Park in Uganda. They've been

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monitoring these chimps in this colony or whatever for years

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and years and years, and around twenty fifteen, two clusters,

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the central and the western clusters, start splitting apart. And

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they think it was because some of the male dominant

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leadership died off, and by twenty eighteen they were fully separated,

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and then they started doing targeted attacks. They started killing

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each other, going after adult males and male infants.

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Speaker 3: So adult males and male infants, okay.

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Speaker 1: So male apes or chimpanzees. Permanent splits like this rarely

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happen in chimp communities. Evidence suggests they may occur only

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once every five hundred years. WHOA. The findings point to

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a key driver shifting social relationships because they stopped interacting

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with each other. As alliances changed and key individuals disappeared,

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bonds that once held the group together fell apart. Over time,

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Familiar individuals became members of opposing groups. Once the split

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took hold, cooperation gave way to coordinated aggression.

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Speaker 3: That's fantastic, fantastic analysis.

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Speaker 1: Is there an example here, Well, sure, there's a couple

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of ideas that we can or a lesson. I should

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say that we can that we can draw from this research.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've only got like, thinking about this, I've

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only got two words.

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Speaker 1: No kings. That's not the that's not it. That's the

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answer to everything. No kings, no king. Well, you know what,

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maybe they didn't have kings in this colony, and maybe

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if they had a king, the king could have held

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them all together. I always thought that you might be

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one of those guys. The study challenges the idea that

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human conflict is driven primarily by cultural differences like ethnicity

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or belief systems. Instead, it points to changing relationships being

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enough to divide groups and fuel violence because like these chimps,

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they don't have a language, they don't have ethnicity and ideology,

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none of that.

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Speaker 3: Sure, but but you if you're doing that kind of thing,

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it's this is raw power. You're just looking for raw power.

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There's no reasoning with them or anything like that. So

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you want to be you want to be the top

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of the pile.

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Speaker 1: And so if you separate out, yes, you segregate yourselves. Yes,

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then you start looking at the other group as a threat,

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as the other, as the other.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: If division can emerge from changing relationships, then efforts to

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maintain connections may play a role in preventing it. Yeah,

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which kind of makes sense. It does.

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Speaker 3: We're all kind of connected through that kind of DNA

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kind of stuff, you know, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean all the different things. Wow, this is why sports

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is so important, huge, and things like the artemists too. Yeah.

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People who don't pay attention to, like anything current events.

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Oh gosh, but they makes me sad. They're aware of

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what's going on and they're excited about it, you know.

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So it's like a unifying thing, and we need more

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of those types of unifying things because it seems like

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a lot of people keep trying to tear apart off

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the country. So that's why I always try to say, like,

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let's look at ourselves as Americans sure as the American community, right, yeah,

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like people big on communities, community careful with these no kings.

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You're just two no kings.

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Speaker 3: You're just im away from that.

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Speaker 1: The breaking news out of the UN You'll never guess

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who has just been nominated to the United Nations Committee

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for Program and Coordination, which they shape policy on women's rights,

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human rights, disarmament, and terrorism prevention. You know who just

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got nominated?

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Speaker 3: Is it Khalil?

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Speaker 1: Who's that? Is that a? Is that a comedian? They

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got no.

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Speaker 3: Khalil, the guy from Columbia University where there's.

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Speaker 1: Oh Makamud Khalil. Yeah, no, they're getting ready to deport

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him again. I just saw like the immigration board was like, yeah, no,

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you're still getting deported. So there, everybody's very upsetting that

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I don't know who this is the United Nations. I'm

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looking for a country, John carrett O, a country that

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would you would think would be a good appointment to

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do women's rights, human rights, disarmament, and terrorism prevention. Uh, Greta,

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it's a country Norway, Iran. That is impossible, It's true.

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They really all right, that'll do it for this episode.

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