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Speaker 2: Yay.
Speaker 1: Tmzero reports that the Spider Man star got down on
Speaker 1: one knee between Christmas and New Year's at one of
Speaker 1: Zendaiah's family homes. It was a romantic, intimate and small
Speaker 1: proposal between just the couple.
Speaker 2: Good for them. Is that why he's quitting acting?
Speaker 1: She was appearing at the Golden Globe sporting a ring
Speaker 1: matching a Bulgary necklace. Okay, could feed a country several
Speaker 1: states for president and Vice President of the United.
Speaker 3: States, that is live in the House Chamber right now,
Speaker 3: Vice President Harris presiding over this joint session of Congress
Speaker 3: to certify the November election. Feels like we're going to
Speaker 3: have to do this every four years from now on.
Speaker 3: This used to be something that no one covered ever,
Speaker 3: but now it's going to be a thing.
Speaker 1: President Biden will be in New Orleans today to meet
Speaker 1: with family members of the victims of that Bourbon Street attack,
Speaker 1: to which I always say, after all of these things,
Speaker 1: who's waiting for that? Like you're in the shock, in
Speaker 1: the horror and the complete numbness that comes with a
Speaker 1: family member getting mowed down by a terrorist and a
Speaker 1: celebration who's asking for whoever the president is, to come
Speaker 1: into the room and give you a pat on the back.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would have no stomach for that. God, God for
Speaker 1: a bid.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing is you would It's not like
Speaker 3: you're forced to go to that.
Speaker 1: That's true, you know, a good point.
Speaker 2: But I agree. I mean, I think there is a
Speaker 2: certain amount of I don't want to I.
Speaker 3: Don't want to politicize. It's my horror. Yeah, it's already
Speaker 3: the worst time in the film. And as Stranger president
Speaker 3: or not, isn't it going to make it better? I mean,
Speaker 3: the one thing I would say is that he's We've
Speaker 3: said this many times during his president this is a
Speaker 3: guy who's seen tragedy in his life. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: and maybe there's a shared sense of pain.
Speaker 1: That's a good I guess that's a good way.
Speaker 3: Canada's Prime minister is going to step down. He announced
Speaker 3: today Justin Trudeau did that he's going to step down
Speaker 3: as leader of the Liberal Party. He will stay in
Speaker 3: office as Prime Minister until a new leader is elected
Speaker 3: selected well.
Speaker 1: While other parts of the country are Jack Nicholson at
Speaker 1: the end of the shining, we are not. We have
Speaker 1: a major Santa Ana wind event that will be making
Speaker 1: its way into our area this week for extreme fire conditions.
Speaker 1: A red flag warning is back starting at ten am
Speaker 1: Tomorrow through six pm Thursday. They say that the gusts
Speaker 1: could reach eighty miles an hour and we'll get to it,
Speaker 1: but we are in the midst of a drought yet again,
Speaker 1: so they're worried about down trees, power outages, a lot
Speaker 1: of fuel, a lot of just dry conditions with the winter.
Speaker 1: You know that this is a recipe for disaster.
Speaker 3: And as strong as the sayas have been in the
Speaker 3: last couple of months, they said that this is likely
Speaker 3: going to be the strongest wind event that we have
Speaker 3: seen through the winter.
Speaker 1: Where is it going to be the biggest problem. It's
Speaker 1: that two to ten corridor from Silmar to AZUSA.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 1: It's right right there.
Speaker 2: As of right now.
Speaker 3: So cal Edison says they don't have any public safety
Speaker 3: power shut off plans, but obviously they do have shut
Speaker 3: offs that are being considered so about seventy thousand people
Speaker 3: in La County, maybe seventy seventy two thousand in Ventura County.
Speaker 3: The potential for public safety power shutoffs, which is where
Speaker 3: they de energize those lines because there's an expectation that
Speaker 3: they're going to be knocked down.
Speaker 2: We don't want them starting any fires.
Speaker 3: Speaking of which, AI has spotted a wildfire or did
Speaker 3: spot a wildfire. Last month the first time the Orange
Speaker 3: County Fire Authority received an alert from an a from
Speaker 3: artificial intelligence cameras about a wildfire without getting an emergency
Speaker 3: call from a human being.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should have a positive AI desk since all
Speaker 1: the news is negative. Nah Naes's crazy.
Speaker 3: But the University of California, San Diego's alert California Camera Network.
Speaker 3: If you have not checked that out, it's pretty it's
Speaker 3: pretty stunning the number of cameras that are available in
Speaker 3: this network. Now they have hooked up artificial intellig I
Speaker 3: don't know how it works. They've hooked up artificial intelligence
Speaker 3: to it so that in the middle of the night,
Speaker 3: for example, in this case, it was December fourth, about
Speaker 3: two in the morning, several cameras located around southern California.
Speaker 3: They found a vegetation fire in black Star Canyon, which
Speaker 3: is just east of Irvine Lake, and this fire solely
Speaker 3: detected by these cameras monitoring the high risk areas around
Speaker 3: the county. Said the location's not heavily trafficked at night,
Speaker 3: which likely contributed to the fact that zero reports of
Speaker 3: smoke or fire came in from any human being. This
Speaker 3: was only an anomaly that was found by the AI
Speaker 3: camera and then they alerted the OC Fire Authority.
Speaker 1: Because they alerted the OC Fire Authority so quickly, they
Speaker 1: were able to contain the fire to less than a
Speaker 1: quarter of an acre, no injuries, evacuations, or homes burned.
Speaker 1: This was an area that could have really taken off.
Speaker 3: There was a map that was released just last week
Speaker 3: fifty nine point one percent of our state impacted by
Speaker 3: drought conditions as far north as Lassen County, stretching down
Speaker 3: into the Bay Area, most of the Central Valley, and
Speaker 3: obviously in southern California.
Speaker 1: I feel like drought news is like government shut down news,
Speaker 1: where everybody just shuts down their hearing when they hear
Speaker 1: drought or government shut down.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, it ain't getting any better.
Speaker 1: Right But until people are told you can't water your
Speaker 1: lawn or wash your car, not like anyone washes their
Speaker 1: cars anymore.
Speaker 2: But you just remembered. I'm supposed to turn off my sprinklers.
Speaker 1: Did you forget to turn them off? Are they autumnate?
Speaker 1: Can you turn them off from your phone?
Speaker 2: I can't?
Speaker 1: You cannot?
Speaker 2: What do you no? Can't?
Speaker 3: So like when the WiFi goes down, it's my WiFi.
Speaker 3: Your WiFi doesn't work. Your sprinklers are supposed to be
Speaker 3: turned off.
Speaker 1: I don't sound like that.
Speaker 3: My son said that to me last night too. I
Speaker 3: don't sound like that, Dad.
Speaker 1: He doesn't sound like that. You do this voice in
Speaker 1: my head, he sounds like that. Well, it's funny because
Speaker 1: you use the same voice for your son and your daughter.
Speaker 3: That's true, which is fun Some of the other stories,
Speaker 3: obviously that we're following right now, they are continuing to
Speaker 3: count the votes in Congress. Vice President Harris is overseeing
Speaker 3: the count of the Electoral College to certify the results
Speaker 3: of the election.
Speaker 2: Your president and jd.
Speaker 4: Vance in the state of Ohio received ten votes for
Speaker 4: vice president.
Speaker 3: And they're just going through the old the old standby.
Speaker 3: This is how they do it. This is sort of
Speaker 3: the last step to certify the election before inauguration two
Speaker 3: weeks from today.
Speaker 2: So she doesn't look too upset. No, she's fine.
Speaker 1: Jenny'll do that to you.
Speaker 2: You think that's what we's in that glass?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay. So this was a story out
Speaker 1: of the self driving car folder. The last we heard
Speaker 1: about Waimo, there was a guy downtown LA who jacked
Speaker 1: one or tried to jack Weimo. Was able to make
Speaker 1: his way into the driver side of the way MOO
Speaker 1: before officers pulled him out. Well, now we've got another
Speaker 1: antecdote about Waimo gone wrong.
Speaker 3: Guy named Mike John's La tech entrepreneur. That'd be a
Speaker 3: nice way to go about your day having the title
Speaker 3: of tech entrepreneur. About three weeks ago, posts a video
Speaker 3: of his call to customer service representatives at Waimo because
Speaker 3: he is stuck in the driverless taxi in a parking
Speaker 3: lot near Lax and he wanted to go to Lax.
Speaker 1: He got near it, and he notices that the car
Speaker 1: keeps turning in circles over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: He's worried about missing his flight, but also worried about
Speaker 1: his nausea. He's like, I got a flight to catch.
Speaker 1: Why is this thing going in a circle. I'm getting
Speaker 1: dizzy the customer, he said, is somebody playing a joke
Speaker 1: on me? He says, I feel like I'm in the movies?
Speaker 1: Has this thing been hacked?
Speaker 3: A customer service representative tells him to open his Waimo
Speaker 3: app and that she was going to try to pull
Speaker 3: the car over but was struggling with getting this thing
Speaker 3: to stop. He was returning home from Scottsdale and that
Speaker 3: he nearly missed his flight. On his post, he said
Speaker 3: Weaimo had not followed up with him after the experience,
Speaker 3: and they said you'd think by now that they might
Speaker 3: email or text or call for a follow up. Waimo
Speaker 3: spokesperson said the incident occurred back in mid December and
Speaker 3: was the writer was delayed by roughly five minutes.
Speaker 2: I don't care, but then was driven to his destination.
Speaker 1: I don't care. That's that's irrelevant to me. The fact
Speaker 1: that you were circling for five minutes does make you
Speaker 1: dizzy and makes you freak out that you're going to
Speaker 1: be stuck in this hell loop for hours. You don't
Speaker 1: know how long it's going to last. It's that toll
Speaker 1: of human anxiety or trauma or what have you. Maybe
Speaker 1: not trauma, but you know what I mean of. It's
Speaker 1: not just oh, it was no big deal. What happens
Speaker 1: the next time when it doesn't circle for five minutes,
Speaker 1: it circles for.
Speaker 2: An hour, or it drives off the pier.
Speaker 1: It drives off the pier, I mean, better scenario.
Speaker 3: I don't like the idea of this. There's nothing in
Speaker 3: it for me. I know people who have used them before,
Speaker 3: and they you know, they're on the cutting edge, and
Speaker 3: they love the technology and this and that.
Speaker 1: As much as I. When I start to seriously think
Speaker 1: about ubers and getting into the car with a stranger
Speaker 1: who I don't know what their morning looked like. Did
Speaker 1: it look like fentanyl and meth pipes? I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm getting in the car with them. There's no there's
Speaker 1: no real vetting process. It's not like you get a
Speaker 1: drug test every time you get it into a an
Speaker 1: uber vehicle that you're using, So I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is. And tho these people, you don't know who
Speaker 1: these people are, but you get in their vehicles. I
Speaker 1: still would rather get into a vehicle with a person
Speaker 1: and the off chance that they spent their morning on
Speaker 1: meth than an automated.
Speaker 3: Vehicle, right, well, and part of it you might be able.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say.
Speaker 3: The belief is that either A you'd be able to
Speaker 3: intervene or be you would start to see some of
Speaker 3: the telltale signs that your driver was on meth. A
Speaker 3: that's true, and that you would be able to make
Speaker 3: a decision one way or the other, like, eh, you
Speaker 3: know what, you could just let I'm you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm going to change my destination. It's fifty feet that way,
Speaker 3: So now I'm good. Thank you for your time, have
Speaker 3: a great Appea.
Speaker 1: That's a really good point. Humans put up red flags, yeah,
Speaker 1: machines do not. Just you have no idea.
Speaker 3: You know, left turn after left turn after left turn
Speaker 3: is probably the only red flag you're going to get.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could open up the door of that
Speaker 1: uber and a pile of smoke comes out and it
Speaker 1: smells a little METHI I don't know what that is,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Tell you can tell when you know,
Speaker 1: and maybe there's you know, there's signs that guy's been
Speaker 1: living in there.
Speaker 3: You don't get that with the machine, he John says, Mike,
Speaker 3: I should say. Says that he loves technology, hence the
Speaker 3: tech entrepreneur, and he would love it if something like
Speaker 3: way Moo were to succeed, but this is not the
Speaker 3: way to go about doing it. The robotox taxis launched
Speaker 3: in la just a couple of months ago, so that's
Speaker 3: the problem. You ever heard the term ghost in the shell? No,
Speaker 3: it's kind of a reference to a potential glitch in
Speaker 3: the system. And there was a I think it was
Speaker 3: a Japanese anime called Ghost in the Shell. There's a
Speaker 3: bunch of different references too. I think there's an actual
Speaker 3: live action movie about it too. But it's all about
Speaker 3: this kind of something exists in the computer that will
Speaker 3: eventually come back to haunt us.
Speaker 2: And he was saying that maybe this is right.
Speaker 1: Right, that sounds very Westworld.
Speaker 3: Yes, I am not going to get into any West
Speaker 3: World cabin.
Speaker 1: You fell deep into the West World hole when that
Speaker 1: hole was exposed.
Speaker 2: Huh. That's an interesting choice of words.
Speaker 1: The most memorable moments, the biggest moments of the night
Speaker 1: that you missed on the Golden Globes, the best outfits,
Speaker 1: the worst, the snubs. We have all of that news
Speaker 1: coming up. In fact, let's get to your Jeopardy question,
Speaker 1: so we can get that out of the way. How
Speaker 1: about that? Oh, this is an easy one because I
Speaker 1: know how you love kids stuff, which is the category
Speaker 1: for two hundred dollars this kid's stuff. As a grown man,
Speaker 1: how would you fall for that? I don't know. Here's
Speaker 1: the answer. The Minions grew into a pop culture phenomenon
Speaker 1: after appearing in this twenty ten animated.
Speaker 2: Film, Uh, what is Despicable Me? Yes, sir?
Speaker 3: Last Night, the eighty second Annual Golden Globes, hosted by
Speaker 3: Nicki Glazer.
Speaker 1: I do want to remind you.
Speaker 2: If you do.
Speaker 5: Lose tonight, please just keep in mind that the point
Speaker 5: of making art is not to win an award.
Speaker 1: The point of.
Speaker 5: Making art is the start of tequila brand so popular
Speaker 5: that you never have to make art again.
Speaker 3: Ten minute opening monologue, and she did pretty good. She
Speaker 3: seemed genuinely happy to be there. This is very funny.
Speaker 3: She did not get into the roast thing that she's
Speaker 3: been known for, at least most recently, in a lot
Speaker 3: of well.
Speaker 1: That can get very very dirty, and this is the
Speaker 1: Golden Globe, so you got to kind of dance on
Speaker 1: the edges.
Speaker 3: She did say she had a couple of sex jokes,
Speaker 3: but one of them was like, she's saying hello to
Speaker 3: Glenn Powell and thanking him for all the work showing
Speaker 3: up in Twister and these other movies.
Speaker 1: You've spent in everything, including the dreams that she has
Speaker 1: with her boyfriends. Right, and then she said, thanks for
Speaker 1: the assist I'll see you later tonight.
Speaker 3: It's very funny, all right, watching all all of this
Speaker 3: take place in the world of Hollywood. Is our friend
Speaker 3: Jason Nathanson, the entertainment reporter. What's going on? Jane, Tell
Speaker 3: what's going on? And remind me also, never to go
Speaker 3: to Shanon's house to eat. If that's how she's cleaning
Speaker 3: her cutting boards.
Speaker 1: That was at the Delisca nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but those habits continue on. I have a feeling.
Speaker 1: No, No, those weren't. That wasn't how I was cleaning
Speaker 1: the cutting boards.
Speaker 2: You said you just wiped it down with That was
Speaker 2: a joke with a rat.
Speaker 1: There was a joke this thing called.
Speaker 4: There's truth in jokes, Shannon, little bet don't know that
Speaker 4: little bit exactly, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So, Golden Globes, there are moments people can't stop
Speaker 1: talking about appearances. People can't stop talking about it about
Speaker 1: tell us what you what stood out to.
Speaker 4: You really can't stop talking about Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 3: Don't come in here with a weak stream. You gotta
Speaker 3: have a strong You're not the Prime Minister of Canada.
Speaker 3: We need some high tea here. I'm also I'm not gonna,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna.
Speaker 4: You know, give the kudos to the show where it
Speaker 4: doesn't deserve it, because it was fine.
Speaker 2: Nicky Glazer was fine. I think she was good.
Speaker 4: I've seen her be much better though, and the roast,
Speaker 4: you know, I think she The problem is she has
Speaker 4: to live up to that bar, and she set the
Speaker 4: bar so up.
Speaker 1: Like I just said, though she can't do what she
Speaker 1: does at the roast on the Golden Globes, Absolutely.
Speaker 4: She can, because we've seen Ricky Gervais do it, and
Speaker 4: we've seen Tina fan Amy Poehler do it, and they're
Speaker 4: they're the two standards by which you measure, especially the
Speaker 4: Golden Globes.
Speaker 2: Because the Golden Globes you can go a little further.
Speaker 3: And what this wasn't even on broadcast television was it
Speaker 3: was on CBS, so it was okay.
Speaker 1: But if I'm Nicky Glazier, and everyone knows I can
Speaker 1: be dirty as hell. I want to use the Golden
Speaker 1: Globes to show that I can be funny and open
Speaker 1: myself up to other opportunities in the funny, not dirty,
Speaker 1: realm interesting.
Speaker 2: I guess. I.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I've seen her be better her comedy
Speaker 4: special last year. If you want to see the peak
Speaker 4: Nicky Glazer, it's the Roast and it's her comedy special.
Speaker 2: Someday I'll die on I don't know where that's from. HBO. Max.
Speaker 4: I think is so good and so dark because she's
Speaker 4: really really good, and I think last night she was
Speaker 4: pulling punches because maybe I don't know, she wants more
Speaker 4: work or whatever, but I've seen her be better. But
Speaker 4: she did have some really good jokes. One of the
Speaker 4: bits that I liked later on in the show was
Speaker 4: when she came back and they did the scoreboard of
Speaker 4: how many people had been thanked who've been thanked, and
Speaker 4: you know, like moms were in the lead and the
Speaker 4: cast and crews in the lead.
Speaker 2: God had zero, but Mario Lopez had won.
Speaker 1: That's funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was good. So there are some good moments
Speaker 4: there from her, for sure, But I mean you know,
Speaker 4: kind of the takeaway from the actual show itself. Speech wise,
Speaker 4: I think to me, More's speech was probably the best
Speaker 4: she won for lead role in the substance.
Speaker 2: Let me play a little bit of any More speech.
Speaker 6: Just know you will never be enough, but you can
Speaker 6: know the value of your worth if you just put.
Speaker 2: Down the measuring stick.
Speaker 6: And so today I celebrate this as a marker of
Speaker 6: my wholeness and of the love that is driving me,
Speaker 6: and for the gift of doing something I love.
Speaker 1: She had talked about how earlier in her career she
Speaker 1: was told by a director that she was a popcorn
Speaker 1: movie actress, and that's kind of how she went through
Speaker 1: her life thinking that that was all that she was.
Speaker 4: She was going to make money, her films were going
Speaker 4: to make money, but she didn't deserve awards, basically, and
Speaker 4: this is the first time she'd ever want anything, which
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's pretty amazing because she's been
Speaker 4: in some great movies and had a great career and
Speaker 4: at this age to kind of get that recognition, I
Speaker 4: think it's fantastic. There wasn't a whole lot of politics
Speaker 4: in the night, which I think a lot of people
Speaker 4: probably enjoyed after you know, years of having politics being
Speaker 4: thrust into these shows, especially right after an election and
Speaker 4: right as we're coming up to a new term, to
Speaker 4: see that there that wasn't I mean, there was a
Speaker 4: little bit of talk of you know, immigration generally and
Speaker 4: dark times generally, but overall.
Speaker 2: You know, Trump's name wasn't mentioned once.
Speaker 4: So I think a lot of people probably enjoyed that
Speaker 4: that they can finally watch award shows again and not
Speaker 4: be preached to.
Speaker 3: Well, outside of Demi Moore, we'll get into some of
Speaker 3: the other specifics.
Speaker 2: Can you hang on for another segment?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, speaking of Demi Moore, I mean she's been a
Speaker 1: wonderful actress in several things, you know, you think about
Speaker 1: like g I Jane, if these walls could talk. She
Speaker 1: was fantastic in that Capoti versus the Swans, excellent in
Speaker 1: that the juror Few good Men. I mean, she's been
Speaker 1: in not just popcorn movies. She's had some great roles absolutely,
Speaker 1: and great arms.
Speaker 2: Okay that we're not objectifying women based on the come on,
Speaker 2: are you.
Speaker 3: Okay? I'll stick to boobs, good idea, feel better. Jason
Speaker 3: Nathanson is joyous entertainment reporter. We're talking about the golden
Speaker 3: globes from the last left good, thank.
Speaker 1: You well, appreciate that. I'll tell you all you need
Speaker 1: to know.
Speaker 4: By the way, Trump, he won the election, also won
Speaker 4: a Golden Globe this morning. Strangely, they gave him a
Speaker 4: golden globe for what as well, just you know, for
Speaker 4: being good. I think he would want a golden Globe
Speaker 4: more than the presidency. He he really wants to be,
Speaker 4: you know, part of that Hollywood thing, and I think
Speaker 4: he would.
Speaker 2: He would be so thrilled. I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 2: Oh he was. He's he was dying.
Speaker 3: I mean your point of what they said and didn't
Speaker 3: say last night. You know that politics wasn't a big deal.
Speaker 3: It's he would love to have the attention exactly.
Speaker 1: He they're ignoring him on purpose, and it's driving him crazy.
Speaker 2: He loves he loves the attention.
Speaker 4: A couple of times that I've seen them where he'd
Speaker 4: come to Hollywood to do press conferences for The Apprentice
Speaker 4: or things like that. He wants to be, you know,
Speaker 4: he wants everybody to know he's got the best gratings
Speaker 4: and you know, everybody's watching the show and stuff. So
Speaker 4: to get an award from Hollywood. I think he'd love it,
Speaker 4: he'd eat it up. Who was the big winner last night?
Speaker 3: I mean, was there one show that really stood out
Speaker 3: as getting all of the Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah. So on the movie side, Amelia Perez, which is
Speaker 4: a movie. It's on Netflix right now, it's streaming. It
Speaker 4: had the most nominations. It had the most wins, including
Speaker 4: Best Musical or Comedy.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: This is a And this is the case with a
Speaker 4: lot of the movies. These are not mainstream movies that
Speaker 4: most people are gonna watch. They're they're very difficult. The
Speaker 4: barrier to entry is very high. Emilia Perez is a
Speaker 4: It's a story of Zoey Sadana plays a lawyer who
Speaker 4: gets in with a drug cartel and has to make some,
Speaker 4: you know, questionable decisions.
Speaker 2: It's a musical though.
Speaker 4: At the same time, which I think is you know
Speaker 4: a lot of people are gonna hear that and they're like,
Speaker 4: I'm out. It's it's also mostly in Spanish.
Speaker 2: It's good, but it's also polarizing.
Speaker 4: It's one of those movies that I think some people
Speaker 4: are either gonna love or they're gonna hate.
Speaker 2: And the Golden Globes voters really liked it. The Golden Globes.
Speaker 4: The body of the Golden Globes voters is a more
Speaker 4: international voting audience anyway, so they'd be drawn to something
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 2: Typically.
Speaker 4: The Brutalist which I think is also going to do
Speaker 4: very well when we get the Oscar nominations in a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks, and has a good shot right now,
Speaker 4: as you know, we're trying to see what's going to
Speaker 4: do well come Oscar time. The Brutalists, which stars Adrian Brody,
Speaker 4: and the story of an immigrant and a Hungarian immigrant
Speaker 4: who comes to the US right during World War Two.
Speaker 4: He's Jewish, his family's Jewish, they escape concentration camps. He's
Speaker 4: an architect and he comes here and he can't really
Speaker 4: apply his trade until he's given the opportunity to.
Speaker 2: This movie is three and.
Speaker 4: A half hours long. There is a fifteen minute intermission
Speaker 4: if you go to see it in the theater.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, this is not again. This is not movies,
Speaker 2: and it's beautifully done.
Speaker 4: It's a fantastic movie, but it's not something I can
Speaker 4: imagine most people watching. I watched it at home and over,
Speaker 4: you know, I watched most of it at night, and
Speaker 4: then the next morning got up and watched the final
Speaker 4: hour or so.
Speaker 1: Isn't that what we say about most of these award
Speaker 1: winners critically acclaimed films is they're not the popcorn movies.
Speaker 1: To use Demi Moore's language, that we flock to theaters
Speaker 1: to go see.
Speaker 4: It used to be no, I mean, it used to
Speaker 4: be the case where people would go see a lot
Speaker 4: of these things and we had a more collective experience
Speaker 4: where we were all kind of consuming the same culture.
Speaker 4: That has changed dramatically with the advent of streaming and
Speaker 4: everything competing for people's time. And you know, the less
Speaker 4: the influence of the award shows on most regular people.
Speaker 4: They don't care. They're not bothering to see most of these. So,
Speaker 4: you know, the Brutalist, which which won for Best Drama,
Speaker 4: which is the big one, right, Nickel Boy September fifth
Speaker 4: things people are probably you're not seeing or haven't seen.
Speaker 2: There's a couple that.
Speaker 4: Were nominated that were big. Wicked was nominated for Best
Speaker 4: Picture of Musical or Comedy. That's the big one and
Speaker 4: that'll probably get Oscar nominations.
Speaker 2: What else? Dune Part two got some nominations.
Speaker 4: But those movies, the bigger movies, didn't get wins last night.
Speaker 4: These ones that are getting wins and we'll get more
Speaker 4: nominations are not movies most people are going to see.
Speaker 3: Your point about, you know, these are at least an
Speaker 3: indicator maybe of which ones would get Oscar nominations. Is
Speaker 3: it that we wait until the Golden globes come out
Speaker 3: and then people get to see and then make their
Speaker 3: decisions or it's just this is sort of the winds
Speaker 3: the wind vein perhaps of the way people's attitudes are.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's much like a presidential campaign
Speaker 4: or any kind of election or something like that, where
Speaker 4: there is momentum and there's timing and you got to
Speaker 4: strike at the right time and get hot and things
Speaker 4: like that. So right now, Oscar nomination voting opens next
Speaker 4: Sunday night, this coming Sunday night, right and you have
Speaker 4: the Critics' Choice Awards this coming Sunday as well, And
Speaker 4: so these films that are getting momentum put them at
Speaker 4: top of mind for people who are starting to do
Speaker 4: that voting. And then the voting for Oscar nominations I
Speaker 4: think ends. I think we get the nominations on the seventeenth,
Speaker 4: so somewhere around there. So it's all you want to
Speaker 4: be a part of the conversation right now. You want
Speaker 4: to be popping right now. So that's why it's tough
Speaker 4: for a film like Challengers, the Zendea film, which was
Speaker 4: nominated last night and won for Best Score, which I loved.
Speaker 4: I thought it was a fantastic film. It's a lot
Speaker 4: of fun, it's stylish, it's cool.
Speaker 2: It came out in March of last year, so that's really.
Speaker 4: Early to kind of get into that, you know, to
Speaker 4: get a lot of momentum going right now. So a
Speaker 4: lot of it is about timing. That said, everything ever
Speaker 4: where all at once. A couple of years ago, which
Speaker 4: won the Oscar that came out also early in that year.
Speaker 2: I think it was maybe in March and it ended
Speaker 2: up winning, So you know, it's.
Speaker 1: All about the publicity machine too. In Hollywood, a lot.
Speaker 4: Of it is about that, so you know. And then
Speaker 4: also I think something like Demi Moore's win last night,
Speaker 4: a lot of people really noticing her for the Substance,
Speaker 4: which is another A Bnker's movie which most people are
Speaker 4: not going to see. It's very polarizing, but that gives
Speaker 4: her a little more high profile attention for that role.
Speaker 4: And I think that's gonna you know, as the Oscar
Speaker 4: voters are going to put.
Speaker 2: Their nominations in, I think that's going to be on
Speaker 2: their mind.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm glad you brought up a Zendeia because how
Speaker 1: exciting is it? These are two very likable people in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: Tom Holland and Zendeia announcing their engagement today.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just love love.
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like adjacent.
Speaker 2: No, I do.
Speaker 1: Actually I expected some excitement from you like this one.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Sure, there are two people that are likable in Hollywood
Speaker 1: that are together.
Speaker 4: That's okay, But like I don't you know, I'd been
Speaker 4: excited if they were my friends.
Speaker 2: Look, I have interviewed both of them in the past.
Speaker 4: Zendaea, who was when she was on Dancing with the
Speaker 4: Stars and I was covering Dancing with the Stars every week.
Speaker 4: I would talk to her every week. One of the
Speaker 4: nicest people in the.
Speaker 1: World, Tom Holland.
Speaker 4: Tom Holland also one of the nicest guys. So I'm
Speaker 4: I'm I'm very happy when two nice people. But you know,
Speaker 4: also we've seen, especially when young people in Hollywood get married,
Speaker 4: it's not usually.
Speaker 1: I guess he doesn't love love I do love love,
Speaker 1: but I am also a realist and we've seen you know.
Speaker 4: I wish only the best for them, but you know,
Speaker 4: for every one of them, there's a j Lo and
Speaker 4: a Ben Affleck.
Speaker 1: I hope that you find some hope in the new year.
Speaker 4: Thank you, welcome, I guess thank you as always, great
Speaker 4: to talk to you guys.
Speaker 2: Jason Nathanson, entertainment reporter. There.
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