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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're playing this for a reason. All of our

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<v Speaker 2>scheduled guests, our ladies. We were going to lead off

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<v Speaker 2>with Cheryl Findaka from Call for Action on Channel four,

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<v Speaker 2>but for whatever reason, we are unable to get her

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<v Speaker 2>on the line. So I moved my nine o'clock to

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<v Speaker 2>eight o'clock, and if we do get Cheryl, will put

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<v Speaker 2>her on at nine o'clock. But you have seen these

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<v Speaker 2>commercials on TV with Eric McCormick and Oh what's the

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<v Speaker 2>name from the Sopranos Edie Falco talking about abused animals,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've got on the line someone who has done

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<v Speaker 2>something about it. She has a sanctuary for dogs. She's

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<v Speaker 2>out in the Great State of Minnesota. I say the

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<v Speaker 2>Great State of Minnesota because that's where Nancy is from,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's about to tell us about her organization. Even

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<v Speaker 2>though she's in Minnesota. You you hear Massachusetts or any

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<v Speaker 2>one of the thirty eight states that we hit with

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<v Speaker 2>our signal can get one of her abused K nine friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Cindy Bruce, Welcome to Night's Side.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Morgan, how are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing very very well. Tell me about your organization.

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<v Speaker 3>My main organization that I foster for is PNC Midwest Rescue.

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<v Speaker 3>They do mostly Pekinese and Japanese chins. We have gotten

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<v Speaker 3>dogs from puppy mills, we've gotten dogs from owner surrenders,

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<v Speaker 3>all sorts of them. The thing with Pekines is they're

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<v Speaker 3>very cute. They're just teeny tiny when they're little, but

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<v Speaker 3>they are born with an attitude. They like to growl

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<v Speaker 3>and they like to bite, and people think it's really

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<v Speaker 3>cute when you know, they're like two pounded dogs out

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<v Speaker 3>of the sea. Yes, yes, it can, okayes definitely, but

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<v Speaker 3>most people think it's just really cute when this little

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<v Speaker 3>fluffball that fits in their hand is growling at them

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<v Speaker 3>and snapping at them, and you know, then it turns

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<v Speaker 3>into a fifteen pound dog that is still growling and

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<v Speaker 3>snapping at them. So the in fact, the very first

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<v Speaker 3>foster dog that we had, that was the case. He

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<v Speaker 3>was a cute little fluffball who growled and bitted his

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<v Speaker 3>owner and thought he was the boss, and they just

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't handle him anymore after he got to be a

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen pound dog. Okay, so he came to us. He

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<v Speaker 3>came to us with food aggression, and he just thought

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<v Speaker 3>he was the boss and intelligent.

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<v Speaker 2>Back up one second. What is food aggression?

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<v Speaker 3>If you usually it starts out with other dogs or

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<v Speaker 3>other animals. They guard their food dish. If you come

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<v Speaker 3>near their food dish, they growl, they snap at you.

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<v Speaker 3>They do the same thing with owners sometimes. But all

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<v Speaker 3>of all of these things can be they can be fixed.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, There's there's very few issues with the dogs

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<v Speaker 3>that we've had that have come in that could not

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<v Speaker 3>be fixed.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to tell I'm gonna this story. This

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<v Speaker 2>story happened when I owned two German shepherds back in

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<v Speaker 2>the eighties, got them as puppies. I trained them, and

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<v Speaker 2>shepherds have a series of training methods different than most

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<v Speaker 2>other dogs, so I followed the rules from a book

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<v Speaker 2>and a videotape. They were very well trained. There were

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<v Speaker 2>sister and brother from the same litter my feet. I

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<v Speaker 2>would feed them in two different bowls, her bowl and

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<v Speaker 2>his bowl. She would woof down all of her food

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<v Speaker 2>then eat almost to the measurement half of his food.

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<v Speaker 2>And I tried moving the dishes, I tried putting them

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<v Speaker 2>in different rooms. I tried everything, and finally I decided,

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<v Speaker 2>let me put all the food in one bowl. She

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<v Speaker 2>would eat half, he wouldn't go near it. She would

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<v Speaker 2>eat half walk away, and then he would eat the remainder.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that common for dogs?

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<v Speaker 1>Not?

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<v Speaker 3>The dogs are on my house, not a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 3>They wolf down their food and then they try to

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<v Speaker 3>join in on the other ones. But I think with

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<v Speaker 3>German shepherds that's a big thing, especially if you have

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<v Speaker 3>a brother and a sister. I think that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>common thing. So, yeah, we feed. We have I currently

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<v Speaker 3>have five dogs at my house and we feed them

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<v Speaker 3>all in the same room, out of their own dishes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so we just make sure. We just make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>they don't go from dish to dish.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me ask a question. I know you will

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<v Speaker 2>ship dogs once you've proven this is a worthy home,

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<v Speaker 2>you will ship dogs anywhere in America. How do you

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<v Speaker 2>work that? How do we okay? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 3>Usually we have one of the Usually we have one

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<v Speaker 3>of the volunteers from the group fly with the dog.

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<v Speaker 3>The people who adopt the dog have to pay the

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<v Speaker 3>ticket to get the dog there. They have to pay

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<v Speaker 3>the expense to get the dog there. But we try

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<v Speaker 3>not to put we keep them in the cabin with

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<v Speaker 3>us because Pekinese, especially the Pekinese and Japanese chins, they're

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<v Speaker 3>small enough dogs. We're uh, flying them in the cargo

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<v Speaker 3>area is not healthy for them. Okay, consider to have

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<v Speaker 3>them in the cabin with you. And if we don't fly.

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<v Speaker 3>We have done relays where we have volunteers. It starts

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<v Speaker 3>in Autana and then we just do different legs of

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<v Speaker 3>the trip in order to get it to the to

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<v Speaker 3>the new owner. I've made trips from Autana to South Dakota, Missouri,

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<v Speaker 3>places like that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, you know again we hit thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>states with our sign. Though, how could somebody here in

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts or in New York or Wisconsin and check out

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<v Speaker 2>the dogs? Is there a website that they can see

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<v Speaker 2>one of these dogs and fall in love with it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, there is. There are tons of very worthy rescues

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<v Speaker 3>all over the country. So I would recommend checking a local,

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<v Speaker 3>either a shelter or a rescue group because there are

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<v Speaker 3>tons of dogs also in kill shelters and non kill

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<v Speaker 3>shelters that are looking for homes. It's amazing how many dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, people breed them and it's not just puppy mills.

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<v Speaker 3>It's people backyard breeders breeding them because they think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>female dogs should have at least one litter of puppies.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, people get these dogs and usually over

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<v Speaker 3>half of the litter ends up in a shelter or

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<v Speaker 3>abandoned out in the country. If they're a big dog

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<v Speaker 3>German shepherds, that's a big thing. You take them out

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<v Speaker 3>to a farmer and you dump them off and they

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<v Speaker 3>drive away. But there's like you said, all you all

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<v Speaker 3>you need to do is go out onto the internet

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<v Speaker 3>and search dog rescues and they're listed all over the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Pekan chin is PNC Midwest Rescue dot com for other

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<v Speaker 3>people in Minnesota, there's that organization. There's also MARS Midwest

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<v Speaker 3>Animal Rescue Services. They do a very good job. I've

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<v Speaker 3>fostered for them before. But yeah, okay. Big thing is adopt, adopt,

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<v Speaker 3>don't shop and pet shops. Pet shops they don't directly

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<v Speaker 3>buy from the puppy mills, but they buy from the

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<v Speaker 3>brokers that buy from the puppy mills. So there's not

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<v Speaker 3>a there's not a pet shop anywhere that doesn't get

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<v Speaker 3>their dogs from a puppy mill.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me take my break. When we come back, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get more information and I hope I'll throw out the

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<v Speaker 2>phone number that we get some calls that are informative

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<v Speaker 2>and within this subject matter about Now it's not cats,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, I I just foster dogs, all right. Mars does

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<v Speaker 3>have does have cats that they foster. They have people

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<v Speaker 3>that foster cats for them. Most there's rescue groups for

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<v Speaker 3>cats everywhere too.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, okay, phone number six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine, two, nine ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Denray is off. He's off until Wednesday, the first of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. I am here. My name is Morgan White, Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>Time and temperature eight sixteen thirty three degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm speaking with Cindy Bruce. She's saying minutes so of

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<v Speaker 2>all places, and she runs a dog sanctuary and Sidney.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the official name.

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<v Speaker 3>PNC Midwest Rescue.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have not a suspicion, but I know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people give their children pets during the holiday season,

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<v Speaker 2>especially little small Pekinese and other fur ball type of doggies.

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<v Speaker 2>They give it to little Bobby, Little Susie, and for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason it doesn't work out. Tell me about the

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<v Speaker 2>people that try to give the dogs back for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 3>If you adopt it through a rescue group, you sign

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<v Speaker 3>excuse me, you sign a contract saying that if you

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<v Speaker 3>ever do not want this dog anymore, that you will

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<v Speaker 3>contact us and you will give us the dog back.

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<v Speaker 3>We take the dog at any time for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 3>If you adopt it from us, we'll take it back.

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<v Speaker 3>And norm now for our dogs, when our dogs are adopted,

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<v Speaker 3>the adopters get our phone number and they can call

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<v Speaker 3>us with any questions and will help them with any

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<v Speaker 3>behavioral things that come up or anything like that, because

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<v Speaker 3>the dog is moving to a new home obviously, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know there's going to be issues that come up

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, it's stressful for anybody to go to

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere where they don't know anybody in that so we

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<v Speaker 3>are we are always available to answer any questions that

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<v Speaker 3>they have them to help them through any of the

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<v Speaker 3>issues that they have. But yeah, we you can if

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<v Speaker 3>you go out on the website and you find a

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<v Speaker 3>dog that you like. All of the adopt all of

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<v Speaker 3>the dog rescues that I've worked with. They have an

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<v Speaker 3>app VACATIONI that you fill out and they call you

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<v Speaker 3>and they talk to you and we request references so

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<v Speaker 3>we can call people and make sure and we try

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that the whole family is involved in

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<v Speaker 3>this because we don't want the wife buying a dog

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, the husband isn't you know, doesn't want it,

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<v Speaker 3>because nine times out of ten then it ends up

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<v Speaker 3>coming back and then we have we send somebody to

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<v Speaker 3>do a home visit to make sure that it's a

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<v Speaker 3>good home for the dog. And then usually the foster

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<v Speaker 3>talks to the potential adapter because we've been living with

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<v Speaker 3>the dog for however long and so yeah, so then

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<v Speaker 3>we go through that and it kind of makes me

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<v Speaker 3>cry when people get their kids pets for Christmas presents,

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<v Speaker 3>because pets are a big I mean, it's a big

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<v Speaker 3>step and then they take a lot of time and

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of yeah, a lot of time, time, a

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>So but yeah, but we are and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times if you go on to if you find it,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're having problems with your dogs, you can or

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<v Speaker 3>any of your pets. You can usually go online and

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<v Speaker 3>if you search up rescue groups. They are usually even

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<v Speaker 3>if you didn't get the dog from them, they are

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<v Speaker 3>more than willing to help you out with suggestions and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, try to help you so you can keep

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<v Speaker 3>your pet soul.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you in Minnesota? You say you do a

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<v Speaker 2>home visit? How do you manage that? You Let's say

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<v Speaker 2>I got a dog, I live in Illinois and you're

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota. How do you manage coming there from? Is

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<v Speaker 2>it directly from your organization or a sister organization that

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<v Speaker 3>We will try to use a sister organization. If we can't,

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<v Speaker 3>we have done video tours of the home with the owners.

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<v Speaker 3>If there isn't an organization that we can get a

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I was just curious how that works.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and you mentioned that the give me the exact

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<v Speaker 2>breed of the Pekinese, the breed, the breed, because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, we do. We do mostly Pekinese. They're they're short

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<v Speaker 3>They're just very they're usually very laid back. Pekinese, on

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, and other breeds. Because the three breeds you mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>all are basically teeny weeny dogs. What about the bigger dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>the labs, the German shepherds, the Great Danes. How often

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<v Speaker 3>Just about as just about as often as Pekinese are.

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<v Speaker 3>There are organizations that that's all they do, is they

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<v Speaker 3>by the Cities. It's a they have a pit bull

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<v Speaker 3>rescue group just for pit bulls. Yeah, so yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, most people are kind of leery about adopting

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<v Speaker 3>pitbulls because it's a bad press they've gotten. But no,

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<v Speaker 3>if we get a call from somebody, we've We've had

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<v Speaker 3>We've had a German shepherd who came with nine puppies.

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<v Speaker 3>She was at my house for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me tell people, get paper and pencil when

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<v Speaker 2>take a news hit when we come back from the news.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have Cindy give her phone number and

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<v Speaker 2>also the website, the computer, email, and that way you

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<v Speaker 2>have a number of different options to get in touch. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you said P and.

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<v Speaker 3>C yep, PNC Midwest Rescue, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because around here we have a P and C

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<v Speaker 2>organization that uses bicycles for fundraising. So I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to make that mistake, and I want you to give

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<v Speaker 2>your phone number and your email address when we come

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<v Speaker 2>back from news. I'm about to take my news hit. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to call in and speak with Cindy,

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<v Speaker 2>Cindy Bruce, that's who you're hearing here on Nightside. Her

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<v Speaker 2>phone number six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>or eight eight eight nine two nine ten thirty. So

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<v Speaker 2>let me sow to Rob. Rob's back tonight where he

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be in the production booth. Here on Nightside

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<v Speaker 2>time and temperature eight twenty nine thirty three degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan is off obviously for the rest of this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been here since Monday. I will be here tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>Monday and Tuesday, and my own show on Saturday, The

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<v Speaker 2>Morgan Show. This is Cindy Bruce and she makes sure

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<v Speaker 2>dogs have a safe place to be. She has a

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<v Speaker 2>dog sanctuary in Minnesota. PNC is its name, and Cindy,

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<v Speaker 2>give whatever numbers you need to give that people can

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<v Speaker 2>get in touch with you and check out your website

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<v Speaker 2>see what pooches are available.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, The website is Pncmidwest dot org. My phone number

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<v Speaker 3>is five oh seven two one three four five eight one,

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<v Speaker 3>and my email address is cool Grandma of six. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the number six at gmail dot com. And I can

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<v Speaker 3>forward it on to the people who need to get it.

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<v Speaker 3>And we are always always always looking for people to

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<v Speaker 3>foster dogs also to take them into their home and

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<v Speaker 3>get them socialized. And quite a few of them come

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<v Speaker 3>in there, not potty trained, house train them, get them social,

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<v Speaker 3>get to know the dogs, help help them get to

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<v Speaker 3>the right home. We're always looking for volunteers.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it conceivable dog a will watch dog b uh

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<v Speaker 2>do the right things when it comes to being party trained,

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<v Speaker 2>request to go outside or maybe you have a doggy

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<v Speaker 2>door and your your kitchen door wherever, and the dog

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't know about being party trained learns from observing

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<v Speaker 2>the other dogs. Can that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, definitely, yep. They learn good and bad habits from

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<v Speaker 3>the other dogs. They usually pick up on the bad

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<v Speaker 3>habits faster. I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right now, give me two bad habits.

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<v Speaker 3>For male dogs. They like to mark their territory.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what we do.

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<v Speaker 3>What we do for that is we put a belly

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<v Speaker 3>band on them. It's just a keith of material and

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<v Speaker 3>wrap it around so that when they pee it goes

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<v Speaker 3>on the sanitary pad instead of on your house. And

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<v Speaker 3>another one is chewing on things.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, y I'm looking at the box right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a box with generic stuff in it. And

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<v Speaker 2>my cat, for whatever reason, started the claw at the

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<v Speaker 2>corners of the box like he picked that area specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>the left corner and the right corner that box right there,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the way that he is marking his territory

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<v Speaker 2>his area. Are there other ways that they mark their

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<v Speaker 2>area beside your nation and scratching?

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<v Speaker 3>Usually for dogs, it's just like you said, the male dogs,

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<v Speaker 3>they lift their leg and they pee on things. That's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much the way they do it. So female dogs

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<v Speaker 3>not so much. They don't mark so much. They get

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<v Speaker 3>protective of their people on that. So you just got

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of keep an eye out for that. But

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<v Speaker 3>and I haven't. I grew up with big dogs. They

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how I ended up with a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>little dogs at my house. But I grew up with

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<v Speaker 3>German shepherds and stuff like that. But yeah, but the

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<v Speaker 3>only thing we've really fostered is, you know, the littler dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>But yep, and cats. If if your cat is doing

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<v Speaker 3>anything other than scratching, if they're going to the bathroom

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<v Speaker 3>outside the litter box, that's definitely of that visit because

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<v Speaker 2>He he knows. We have two litter boxes and they'll

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<v Speaker 2>use one more than the other, but no examples of

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<v Speaker 2>comes to that, yes, yep. Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>And when when you do adopt a dog from us,

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<v Speaker 3>there is an adoption fee. What pekan Chin does when

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<v Speaker 3>we have dogs come in, they get a vet visit,

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<v Speaker 3>they get all they get check ups done, They're checked

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<v Speaker 3>spade or neutered, we spay and neuter them. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>some some of our dogs. The adoption fee absolutely does

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<v Speaker 3>not cover what we've sunk into the dogs with the

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<v Speaker 3>set visit. So yeah, so this is.

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<v Speaker 2>I have such a love of dogies, even though I

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<v Speaker 2>own a cat. Now I have found that I still

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<v Speaker 2>have a love and I missed my shepherds. I had

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<v Speaker 2>them till they both were about eight or nine years old.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to put each of them down about six

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<v Speaker 2>weeks in between. One my female got leukemia and we

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<v Speaker 2>and they thought they got it all, but within two

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<v Speaker 2>my male had hip displasure, which is common in German shepherds,

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<v Speaker 2>or five weeks of each other. And they were my children.

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<v Speaker 2>It just tore me, tore me up. Yep. And I

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<v Speaker 2>want anybody out there that gets a dog, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>from PNC or the pet sharp at the mall, train it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it takes time, it takes love. Don't beat it.

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<v Speaker 2>I never ever beat my dogs ever, words of encouragement

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<v Speaker 2>and the scruff of the year behind the air. I

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<v Speaker 2>me to do. I lived in the city of Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in the Austin Brighton area. I could walk

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<v Speaker 2>them without a leash. More often than not. I walked

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<v Speaker 2>them with a leash, but I could walk them without

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<v Speaker 2>a leash. My male stayed on my right side, my

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<v Speaker 2>female stayed on my left side. And it was the

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<v Speaker 2>three of us and we were eight unit. And I

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<v Speaker 2>missed them to this day. It's been over thirty years

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<v Speaker 2>since I've had Hack and Honey, and what are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to do? Time March is on. But I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure they were well trained. Living in the city, definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing is even with you know, like German

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<v Speaker 3>shepherds or pit bulls or Rottweiler's. My brother has from

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<v Speaker 3>the time he was an adult on his own, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>Rottweiler's and pit bulls, and they have been just the

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<v Speaker 3>sweetest dogs ever. And if you're looking for a dog

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<v Speaker 3>to help protect your family, you don't have to put

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<v Speaker 3>them through the training for being a guard dog or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>If you love them and take care of them, they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to help protect your family. You know, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>need to put them through the you know, the police

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<v Speaker 3>dog training or anything like that. As long as you

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you make sure that they know you're the

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<v Speaker 3>boss and you treat them right, they will protect your

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<v Speaker 3>family no matter what.

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<v Speaker 2>And I saw evidence of that. They knew how to

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<v Speaker 2>protect and more importantly, when to protect. Definitely, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what my cat would do so somebody broke into

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<v Speaker 2>the house. I would hope he would be in protect mode,

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<v Speaker 2>but you never know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, yeah, my cat would run away and hide. He

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And how do how do your dogs, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think you said you have as many as a dozen

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<v Speaker 2>at a time, how do they get along? Obviously you've

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<v Speaker 2>got different breeds different sizes. Do they play nice with

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<v Speaker 3>Usually I do. Sometimes we run into my personal dog

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<v Speaker 3>that was the oldest dog in the house. I'd have

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<v Speaker 3>him put down last summer, but he once in a while,

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<v Speaker 3>when another male dog would come in the house, he

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<v Speaker 3>would definitely have to let him know that this was

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<v Speaker 3>his house. And that's that's one of the things that's

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<v Speaker 3>nice about having organizations that foster the dogs and homes

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<v Speaker 3>because you can help them get used to other animals.

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<v Speaker 3>And there have been some dogs where we've had to say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they got used to being in a house

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<v Speaker 3>with other dogs, but they're really not comfortable with it,

431
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<v Speaker 3>you know, because there are some dogs who are not

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable with you know, multiple animals in the house. But

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, that's what works really nice with the

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<v Speaker 3>foster groups is they come into the house, you get

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<v Speaker 3>to know the dog. You can say, okay, probably not

436
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<v Speaker 3>a good fit with cats. We've had a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>dogs come in that just they were not kid dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>They you know, they didn't want anything to do with kids.

439
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<v Speaker 3>They didn't like it when my grandkids came over. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was you know, this dog needs to go to

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<v Speaker 3>a home that doesn't have kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yeah, let me tell you my last break

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<v Speaker 2>of this hour, and for people who tuned in to

444
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<v Speaker 2>hear Sheriffian Daka, she will be joining us at nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Cindy was kind enough to come in an hour early,

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<v Speaker 2>so again, let me say thank you for you doing

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<v Speaker 2>that and let me take my break. Give the phone

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<v Speaker 2>numbers six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty or

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<v Speaker 2>eight eight, eight, nine, two, nine, ten thirty if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to call in and talk about adopting a dog

451
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<v Speaker 2>or your history dealing with how you brought a dog

452
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<v Speaker 2>into your home and the details of that adoption, we

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<v Speaker 2>want to hear about it. This is Nightside. Dan Ray

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<v Speaker 2>is off. My name is Morgan Here. I am time

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<v Speaker 2>and temperature eight forty five thirty three degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World

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<v Speaker 1>Life Sights to you on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>My name Morgan White Junior. I am filling in for

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Ray here on Nightside. Night Side happens, and when

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<v Speaker 2>Dan takes a vacation, night Side still happens. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to call in to speak to my guest,

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<v Speaker 2>Cindy Bruce six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight eight eight, nine, two, nine, ten thirty. And where

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<v Speaker 2>do you see your business, your company growing from here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't think it's going to go away because

466
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 3>people get animals without doing research and then they don't

467
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<v Speaker 3>know what to do with them once they've got them.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, we're we're still trying, like I said, we're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to find new foster homes, uh and we're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to find volunteers that'll help us out with things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>At and even if you don't foster for P and C,

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<v Speaker 3>there's organizations all up and down the East Coast, all

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<v Speaker 3>over the United States that are just crying for people

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<v Speaker 3>to help them. The shelters, both the kill shelters and

475
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<v Speaker 3>the non kill shelters and the rescue groups are just

476
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<v Speaker 3>hecked to the ceilings with animals and critters and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are.

478
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<v Speaker 2>The parameters at a kill shelter and a non kill shelter?

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<v Speaker 3>So we know the difference a kill shelter, Well, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a deadline for the amount of time the dogs can

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<v Speaker 3>be there. The city organizations that have animal control officers,

482
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<v Speaker 3>they have dog they don't call them dog palms anymore,

483
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<v Speaker 3>but they come in and these animals have a very

484
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<v Speaker 3>limited amount of time to either find the owner or

485
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<v Speaker 3>to be adopted, and then they are put down. They're

486
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<v Speaker 3>euthanized if they don't get adopted.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 3>They that's that's the kill shelter usually and normally it's

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<v Speaker 3>like two weeks to a month. Usually not a month,

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<v Speaker 3>but usually it's it's as little as two weeks to

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<v Speaker 3>either find the owner or adopt the dog or cat

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever animal it is out and then because they

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<v Speaker 3>don't they don't have the resources to keep the animals

494
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<v Speaker 3>longer than that. So yeah, and then the no kill

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<v Speaker 3>shelters are usually they they will keep them forever if

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<v Speaker 3>they have to.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Times, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, you've got a phone call.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to Chelsetort and speak to Chris. Chris, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for calling Nightside. Hope you've had a happy holiday

503
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<v Speaker 2>week and happy New Year to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Every New Year to you, you guess and the provided Nightside.

505
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<v Speaker 4>I had a good Christmas here at the group home

506
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<v Speaker 4>in Jumford. When I used to live in Dorica, we

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<v Speaker 4>did have a dog and it was a very nice

508
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<v Speaker 4>they named its Sport. But for some reason he would

509
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<v Speaker 4>he when when he was over one was around today,

510
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<v Speaker 4>he did two of some things. And I'm wondering, how

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<v Speaker 4>could dogs get out of that habit of doing that? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I forget when the dog died, but I didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to was over three years of age, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Cindy. How do you break a dog from chewing things?

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<v Speaker 3>There are some dog breeds that chew their whole life.

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<v Speaker 3>At the times, dogs just chew when they're teething, but

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<v Speaker 3>some dogs chew their whole lives. My house is filled

518
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<v Speaker 3>with dog toys. There are things for them to chew

519
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<v Speaker 3>on all the time, so they don't chew on my

520
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 3>things anymore. And that's that's usually the best way to

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<v Speaker 3>go about it is buy them things that they're allowed

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<v Speaker 3>to chew on. How do they.

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<v Speaker 2>Know the difference? I'm sorry, how do they know the

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<v Speaker 2>difference from your house shoe to that rubber bone?

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>Usually I keep my shoes away from my dogs. I

527
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<v Speaker 3>keep them in closets and things like that. A lot

528
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<v Speaker 3>of times, I think your pets will train you much

529
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<v Speaker 3>better than you will ever train them. You learn you

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<v Speaker 3>know what things not to.

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<v Speaker 4>And for women's dogs and men's men's dogs, like men

532
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<v Speaker 4>and juice for example.

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<v Speaker 2>Well as as Cindy just said, you're hoping that the

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<v Speaker 2>dog will know his chewable toys, his toys, her toys.

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<v Speaker 2>You're hoping that the dog will know that that reddish

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<v Speaker 2>bone looking thing over there is for him, that thing

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<v Speaker 2>with the fur on it, and the place for a

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<v Speaker 2>foot is mommy's. You can't chew mommy's shoe, good, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 3>We usually we usually try to when we buy them

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<v Speaker 3>a new chew toy. We had a black lab, who

541
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<v Speaker 3>you know, black labs chew on things their whole lives,

542
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<v Speaker 3>and we bought we use pot bottles, empty pot bottles,

543
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 3>and that way it made noise. He thought he was

544
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<v Speaker 3>chewing on something he wasn't supposed to do and that

545
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<v Speaker 3>that worked fine for us. Or when we get them

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<v Speaker 3>a new toy, we play with the toy and we

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that they know this is for them to

548
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<v Speaker 3>chew on and play with. So that's so far, that's

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00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:04.039
<v Speaker 3>worked really well for us.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Chris, anything else.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know that's aboute it And you have a

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<v Speaker 4>good weekend, Wigan, and you guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Same to you, Chris, thank you for the call, Bye bye,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, and before I run out of time. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got maybe two or three more minutes left with you. Cindy,

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<v Speaker 2>could you give your phone numbers or email website what

557
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<v Speaker 2>have you?

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<v Speaker 3>Once again please Yep, It's Pncmidwest dot org. And my

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<v Speaker 3>number is five oh seven two one three four five

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<v Speaker 3>eight one and I can definitely if they call me,

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<v Speaker 3>and then my email address is cool GRAMDMA of six

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<v Speaker 3>the number six at gmail dot com. And I can

563
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.440
<v Speaker 3>definitely get them to the people that they need to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to about fostering or adopting or any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me state the obvious, Like I told you,

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<v Speaker 2>we hit thirty eight states, and I'm sure you and

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<v Speaker 2>your P and C company outreach to all thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>states through sister organizations and what have you.

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<v Speaker 3>True, Yes, true, And we have also one of the

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<v Speaker 3>dogs that I've had at my house was adopted to

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<v Speaker 3>a couple in Canada. And we have also adopted out

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<v Speaker 3>one of our dogs to a couple in Alaska, so

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<v Speaker 3>we can get them. And a couple of the head

574
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<v Speaker 3>of our organization has taken a couple of dogs that

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<v Speaker 3>were adopted to Italy. Wow, so they go everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>We hit Canada with that signal. So Canada is no issue,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure they need dog help up there as

578
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:03.800
<v Speaker 2>well as the rest of the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh definitely, yea.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for green to come on. I know you reach.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having and we will do this again

582
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<v Speaker 2>maybe in.

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<v Speaker 3>The spring, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Cindy Bruce, you take care. Bye bye bye bye bye.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, rest of the show. Trophy and Doctor will

586
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<v Speaker 2>be here after the nine o'clock news. You know her

587
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<v Speaker 2>from her segment on Channel four News. She's been doing

588
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<v Speaker 2>it for if I'm not mistaken, ten years. Maybe, yeah,

589
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:53.079
<v Speaker 2>call for action. I've got Joyce Cole Haywick. I call

590
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<v Speaker 2>her the Empress of Entertainment. And at eleven o'clock Susan

591
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<v Speaker 2>Brigman will be here. She's written several books based around Massachusetts,

592
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<v Speaker 2>New England, one on Candlepin Bowling and one on Route

593
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<v Speaker 2>one and the Places to Go Sightseeing and Enjoy and

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<v Speaker 2>Sharp and Eat or Root one. So three more hours

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<v Speaker 2>of Nightside here just for you time eight fifty eight
