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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property. And for this week of June

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<v Speaker 1>twenty third, we are continuing with Lost season three, episode four,

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<v Speaker 1>every Man for Himself, which is a Sawyer flashback episode. Predictably,

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<v Speaker 1>we want Sawyer once again thinking only of him and

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<v Speaker 1>taking advantage of poor Ian Gomez. Hi, I and Gomez.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to see my old friend from Cougartown Days.

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<v Speaker 3>A fellow prisoner. Yeah, it is a new hairstyle for

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<v Speaker 3>Sawyer that we haven't seen before. It's a little half up,

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<v Speaker 3>half down ponytail.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, these things are important, but so it shows him

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<v Speaker 1>basically being the Sawyer we have known all along. We

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<v Speaker 1>find out I guess that he maybe has a daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>which he is both saying to the child's mother, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not my daughter, and then you know, leaving a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of ill gotten gains for her any bank account that

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<v Speaker 1>presumably somebody at some point will tell her she has.

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<v Speaker 1>But right, And then meanwhile in lost Land, Ben Ben

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<v Speaker 1>place some mind games. He's having himself a good time

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<v Speaker 1>playing mind games with Sawyer and Sawyer being I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you would have no reason not to think

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<v Speaker 1>that he was doing to you exactly what he said

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing to you. But Sawyer hasn't had that

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<v Speaker 1>much contact with Ben previous to as he hasn't he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't in the hatch chatting them up. Yeah, so perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>he's unfamiliar with the man's work. But those of us

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<v Speaker 1>watching at home are going, your heart's not going to explode. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's playing you. Yeah, but supposedly inserts a pacemaker like

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<v Speaker 1>item in Sawyer's heart that his heart rate goes up

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<v Speaker 1>above a certain level, like if he's fighting or escaping

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, making time with Kate, watching Kate will

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<v Speaker 1>his heart will explode and he buys this hook line

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<v Speaker 1>and sinker, which, Okay, it's a stressful time. His instincts

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<v Speaker 1>aren't at the top of their game. But he is

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<v Speaker 1>a con man, like doesn't recognize like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you need to.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to ask some more questions about this. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like an impractical thing under the circumstances. But in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Ben comes clean and just sort of humiliates

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<v Speaker 1>him in a variety of ways. Yeah, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really sorry for Sawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben, didn't you know, let Sawyer dangle for very long?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he no, He told him like the next day,

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<v Speaker 3>probably because his heart rate was going to go over

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<v Speaker 3>that that number it was at any point and then

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<v Speaker 3>so it'd be like, oh, look it's still here. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>still here. So I guess that was all a big scam.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to take the advantage of, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to take the opportunity to humiliate him without it

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<v Speaker 1>happening just independently, right and smack him in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>With an excerpt from of Mice and Men. After Sawyer

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<v Speaker 1>was acting all haughty about.

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<v Speaker 3>It, so we have known, sorry to be quite the reader,

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<v Speaker 3>the avid reader.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll read whatever he got right, But apparently those pages

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<v Speaker 1>that Ben quoted back at.

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<v Speaker 3>Him he missed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and uh, let's see we have some impromptu island

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<v Speaker 1>surgery which is unsuccessful, right because there's no crash car.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack being a professional expected that in this island hospital

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<v Speaker 1>and there would be all the latest equivalent under the

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<v Speaker 1>crash car. What do you mean this?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, yeah, this is where we do life saving surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm used to a better kind of set up here.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you guys doing? And Juliet Is is doing

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<v Speaker 1>surgery though she is a fertility specialist, which you know.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm going to lose their license Island hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>She's I'm not used to lost. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of loss in fertility.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean does this mean that like a pregnancy loss

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<v Speaker 3>is I don't know like that that was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's your name as your friend dying.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you say you're a pediatrician or so, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, like, yeah, that's true. It was a weird

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's viscerally different, right, It's about like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's hard is in your hands and dying.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct?

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<v Speaker 1>But uh? And then Jack notices that there's evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody with a giant spinal tumor and he just has

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<v Speaker 1>to be a spinal surgeon. And he's starting to put

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<v Speaker 1>two and two together a little better than faster than

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<v Speaker 1>Sawyer did. Yes, that he is there for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>So who do we think? But we know at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's been I mean, that was just

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I believe it is too, So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should get to that plot because it seems

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more interesting. Though. Are we just going to

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<v Speaker 1>torture Sawyer for another week or two? Or are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to get down to it people? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, are we going to keep alternating between the beach

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<v Speaker 3>Castaways and this island where Jack and Sawyer and Kada,

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<v Speaker 3>which we learned by the end of the episode is

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<v Speaker 3>a separate island from someone that I thought they were on.

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<v Speaker 1>So we needed here was another island, We.

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<v Speaker 3>Needed, more characters. We needed that's l.

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<v Speaker 1>Pallo is golfing by the sea high Man. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea who you are, but you suddenly seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be around.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't take kindly to Desmond's golf tips. But of

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<v Speaker 3>course Desmond turned out to be right.

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<v Speaker 1>Assertion of these characters is so clumsy. I at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>watching it the first time, I didn't know that necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>they were being inserted in this way, but man, right

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<v Speaker 1>they could like, I don't know, it just seems ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking to this guy on the beach. So

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<v Speaker 1>Desmond is puttering around.

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<v Speaker 3>And just happened to put up a lightning rod right

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<v Speaker 3>next to Claire's tent, right before a lightning struck.

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<v Speaker 1>After previously telling her you might want to move down

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<v Speaker 1>the beach, right and she didn't listen. Well, you might

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<v Speaker 1>want to repair your roof, and she didn't listen. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, okay, well fine, you're gonna get wet, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put this here so you don't get fried.

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<v Speaker 1>So the question is he still singing into the future? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>It would appear so, yes, And according to los Pedia,

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<v Speaker 1>this showed him both that he was accurately seeing into

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<v Speaker 1>the future and that he could do something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be an interesting feeling, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, also, by the way, speaking, shall we note that

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<v Speaker 3>there's a wood chipper and a chainsaw happening outside my window. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it is not. It is not you know, island construction.

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<v Speaker 3>It is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would not all be surprised to find a

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<v Speaker 1>wood chipper and a chainsaw over on otherville.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. So although they just used manual like take this

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<v Speaker 3>rock and move it, that's true from here to there,

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<v Speaker 3>like the classic you know, prisoner job is absolutely meaningless. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So this, this woman who died was the one that

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<v Speaker 1>Sun shot, right, So that was no repercussions from that.

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<v Speaker 3>That could not save because too late.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was shot and then she was put in

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<v Speaker 1>a submarine and and she was brought over land to

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<v Speaker 1>this uh you know, rudimentary surgery and she was still alive.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty impressive, right, Maybe Son's not as good a

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<v Speaker 1>shot as with them, but it's close range, as I recall, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would, I would sort of think she would not

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<v Speaker 1>have made the submarine ride. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and once again we haven't we have like three

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<v Speaker 3>groups and three locations because we haven't now seen Sun

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<v Speaker 3>and engine and SAYID for a week or so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you don't, right, where are they there's there trudging?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they on the right island?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, if they had to take a submarine to

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<v Speaker 1>get her to the uh you know, hospitals r US,

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, they must be on the right island, right,

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<v Speaker 1>making their taking their time right, strolling in a leisurely fashion.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think any of them wire.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. Oh, we need to find some some parenting

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<v Speaker 3>lessons within this this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, what exactly the whole uh bit of I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Sawyer and Kate do not seem to realize yet, although

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<v Speaker 1>both of them have reason to be hyper suspicious of

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<v Speaker 1>their surroundings, but neither of them has copped to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there are cameras on you and they are

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<v Speaker 1>watching you all the time. They are listening to every

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<v Speaker 1>one of your conversations. So maybe don't plot escapes and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, electrocutions out loud.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of reminds me of kids never really having privacy,

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<v Speaker 1>right that mom is, Mom, can hear what you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>in your room? Mom? Can? Mom has maybe put a

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<v Speaker 1>baby monitor up for that purpose. You think that you

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<v Speaker 1>are plotting something all by yourself, but people are hearing

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<v Speaker 1>you and writting on you school. People are telling your

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<v Speaker 1>parents what happened at school. You never really can get

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<v Speaker 1>away with stuff, and yet you are so confident that

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<v Speaker 1>you can yes, And then as a parent you have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, do I, you know, expose my knowledge or

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<v Speaker 1>do I just find a way. That's hard sometimes because

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<v Speaker 1>you want you want to keep the channels open, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time you want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>spring the trap. So it's all it's all a big

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<v Speaker 1>Other Island experience playing mind games. You know, suggest you

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<v Speaker 1>trying to use the power of suggestion to get people

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<v Speaker 1>to do things without coming right out and doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully not playing one child against the other.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we do we do you avoid that impossible? So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>every time you do things like this and you will

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit of satisfaction of it. Think about

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<v Speaker 1>your Ben in this scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not the good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not the not the good guy. He's a little

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<v Speaker 1>thing of the importance of reading. You know, it's good

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<v Speaker 1>to know your literary references right right.

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<v Speaker 3>And also going back to the Castaways, you know, preventative maintenance, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's like actual maintenance on your home, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>also like you know, predicting where things are going to go, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>if I do this, then then that will possibly be

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<v Speaker 3>the result, So let me see how I can influence

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<v Speaker 3>this in the way that I needed to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, as a parent, you're always thinking

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<v Speaker 1>three steps ahead of all the things that could go wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're running around being Desmond and your kids are

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<v Speaker 1>being Claire, going eh, yeah, I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 3>What's the big deal. I've been living just fine under

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<v Speaker 1>Who asked you? And so the times when, like Desmond,

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<v Speaker 3>You can live with that satisfaction for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>It sustains us absolute And will they listen the next time? No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>But people are gonna nod and back slowly away, like Hurley.

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<v Speaker 3>Is doing every time he encounters to husband. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>first he was just all naked and yeah, you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks remarkably healthy, though in this episode, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just a normal castaway trying to blend in. He could

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<v Speaker 1>he is right looking handsome. But no, then he has

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But at least he protected Claire and Aaron and

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<v Speaker 1>Even Charlie, he did not. Charlie possibly did.

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<v Speaker 3>Not deserve it exactly. He may not have deserved it,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie is like the most territorial dude over somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>is antenna twitches when anybody comes within five feet of Claire.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's never been like formerly sort of established

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<v Speaker 3>like okay, we're kind of back.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she's tolerating him. Yeah, for a while there

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<v Speaker 1>she stopped, and now she's doing it. She is tolerating

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<v Speaker 1>him again. But yeah, there's no evidence that it's anything

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. It's like I have to have some

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<v Speaker 1>a moment when Kate and Sawyer are in their cages

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably Jack. But I was thinking it was because

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<v Speaker 1>of his tattoos, which were showing, right, so they have

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<v Speaker 1>to subtly point out, did you notice jackass tattoos?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you notice?

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<v Speaker 1>They want us to notice? So I guess they can

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<v Speaker 1>say that Kate and Sawyer have noticed also, and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>guy about his height, with those tattoos, it's gotta be Jack.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And they turned on like the sort of all

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<v Speaker 3>these sirens and made all this noise. So yes, they

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<v Speaker 3>could talk to him, like again, sounds like sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, wellly you could, you know, if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to impress on people that your kid was

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<v Speaker 1>with the bag over the head, walk them through, walk

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<v Speaker 1>them past. Look that's gonna happen to you if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, cautionary tape.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad bad parenting strategy. There are others. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hand Nope, nope. And Kate did the equivalent of

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<v Speaker 1>the teenage girl climbing out the window. You know, how

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<v Speaker 1>can they possibly get out of the cage. It's impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of the cage. Oh wait, you can

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<v Speaker 1>just lift this thing and get out of the tree

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<v Speaker 3>In, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there an oak tree there for you to climb down?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that's the traditional thing, when you climb out

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<v Speaker 1>the window and then climb back in. Well, that stayed

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<v Speaker 1>by your guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well for once. He he was telling her to do

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but as we know now, even if she'd gotten

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<v Speaker 1>well or find the submarine, it pretty much stuck.

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<v Speaker 3>Although I wouldn't put it past her to be like submarine. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna figure out how to drive this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's go, Daddy, Chevy's in the driveway. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. I guess stuff happened in this that

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<v Speaker 1>will pay off in future episodes. But the flashbacks are

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<v Speaker 1>just we need to we need to move on. These flashbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean giving rate of Hey, do you know Sawyer's

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<v Speaker 1>a con man?

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<v Speaker 3>They're just giving us the tiniest drop of information, you know, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got it, he's got a daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, and also he will stab you in the back,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you are kind of a dummy, flubby guy

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<v Speaker 1>like I Gomez. So yeah, kind of been there, done that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, right, But okay, what I really want to

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<v Speaker 1>know is what's the deal with Nikki and Palin?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I can't wait to find out about those two.

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<v Speaker 1>Dear or or you know how a fertility specialist winds

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<v Speaker 1>up on the island doing whatever sort of doctory things

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<v Speaker 1>they need, which we will get some of an episode seven,

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<v Speaker 1>so not too far away.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, and that's They do seem to be kind

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<v Speaker 3>of obsessed with children and babies.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's true. Could be connected.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably why. But how you know, if could we

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<v Speaker 1>take a break from the big three for a while

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<v Speaker 1>and or four including lock, can we get just like

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<v Speaker 1>we get it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep?

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<v Speaker 1>Moving along, but I guess they have. They're stuck there.

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<v Speaker 1>They got all the time in the world. Before we

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something else, you want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll circle back around took to Sawyer being a con

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<v Speaker 3>man and Kate being a fugitive and Jack being a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>And Locke being a sad sad.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye there going four. That's all cover.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you can't get enough of that. Next Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>we will continue with season three, episode five of Lost,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cost of Living, which is I am happy to

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<v Speaker 1>report an echo flashback episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, did you know how much with a drug dealer?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on with that? Yeah? Did you know? He's

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<v Speaker 1>a drug dealer and he had a brother who was

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<v Speaker 1>a priest and you know, caused his death and it

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<v Speaker 1>was very traumatic. Let's look at that again, shall we,

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<v Speaker 1>And then we will see you back here tomorrow to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss Duster. Thank you for listening. You can find all

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