WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:07.080 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:30.559 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. 3 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:34.520 That's right, Coffee and Company hour number two here on 4 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.000 a Tuesday afternoon. Hopefully everybody had had themselves a good 5 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:41.200 holiday weekend. We now have week one of the college 6 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:43.200 football season in the books, and I'm not sure we 7 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:46.840 learned really much of anything about the local teams here, 8 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:49.240 but that's what you'd expect. I mean, Louisville took on 9 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:52.000 an FCS opponent in Austin p and did exactly what 10 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:55.079 you're supposed to do, win sixty two to nothing. As 11 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:58.920 for Kentucky, you know, they dominated a Southern miss team 12 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:02.880 until the weather and mother nature decided that it was over. 13 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:05.400 And you know, Tugie, by the way, we haven't talked 14 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:07.599 about it yet. We probably won't much the rest of 15 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:09.359 the way today. But they've got a big game against 16 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:12.159 South Carolina only because like if they're gonna, you know, 17 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:14.719 their schedule is very challenging this year in the SEC, 18 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:17.879 and that's when they like kind of got to win, right, 19 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:20.439 Like if they're gonna have a season where they're you know, 20 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:22.719 getting north of six wins, which is I'm sure what 21 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:25.640 they're aiming for. South Carolina's one they got to get 22 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:27.480 and South Carolina's had their number for the last couple 23 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:27.760 of years. 24 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:28.439 A's for Louisville. 25 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:30.599 They've got another game against you know, an opponent that 26 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:33.359 you hope doesn't provide much of a challenge in Jacksonville State, 27 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:36.120 but still plenty to react to from the weekend elsewhere 28 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:39.719 against some good games, some marquee matchups. In Week one, 29 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:42.640 I know, I was highly entertained with just about everything 30 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:44.400 when it comes to college football, and joining us now 31 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:46.480 to discuss that is the one the only mister, Zach 32 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:50.120 Barnett of FootballScoop dot com, how was your Week one 33 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:51.920 experience in college football? My man? 34 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:57.079 It was a fantastic The games were I mean the 35 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:00.319 games were good, not great for the most part, but 36 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:04.400 it was college football and basically a forty weekend. 37 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:05.599 What more can you ask for? 38 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:06.920 Yeah? 39 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:07.359 I got. 40 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.520 I mean, if I was gonna do like the the 41 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:14.479 typical sports radio stuff like biggest winners, biggest losers from 42 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.199 the weekend, I mean when it comes to the loser, 43 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:19.280 I mean it's it's Florida State, not only this weekend, 44 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:21.560 but last weekend as well. Can you think of a 45 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:25.560 comparable situation, like everybody is pointing and laughing at Florida 46 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:28.000 State in a way that I really can't. I can't 47 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:30.560 think of any other program that's been in a situation 48 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:32.919 quite like this, going back to December where they sue 49 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:36.199 their conference because they're you know, they're bitter. They claim 50 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:37.840 the league's holding them back, they get left out of 51 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:40.199 the playoff, and you know, now they come out and 52 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:42.719 start zero to two, and you know, I mean, they're 53 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:45.039 easily the biggest disappointment of the season thus far. 54 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:49.360 Oh yeah, I can't point to Obviously, there's there's no 55 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.840 parallel to I mean, there was unprecedented and getting left 56 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:55.520 out of the playoff and this acc stuff is unprecedented. 57 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:58.599 But as as far as like on the field stuff, 58 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:00.759 I believe there was a I think it was like 59 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:03.520 two thousand and one Alabama. Maybe I'm wrong here. I 60 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:06.639 think it was two thousand and one. Alabama started the 61 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:09.240 year top ten and they did three and eight. I 62 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:11.280 think that's the only parallel to what we've seen so far. 63 00:03:11.560 --> 00:03:13.400 And I don't think Florida State's gonna end up going 64 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:17.680 four and eight. But as far as a top ten start. 65 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:19.479 To just completely falling off the map. 66 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:23.240 And obviously this is just a bad not that were 67 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:26.120 ranked them ten and they're actually, you know, twenty five. 68 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:28.240 It's like we ranked them ten and they're not even 69 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:29.759 good at all. 70 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:33.080 Yeah, I mean, could anybody have seen this coming? 71 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:33.520 Is this? 72 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:35.840 Is this just them thinking they were going to be 73 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:38.520 in good hands with a quarterback like dju. I mean, 74 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:41.240 they did lose a lot off of a good team 75 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:43.800 that put dudes in the NFL, But I mean like this, 76 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:45.599 I mean, there's a chance that you mentioned they're not 77 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:47.199 going to be four and eight, but I mean, like 78 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:49.120 last night, they just got their ass whooped. I mean, 79 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:50.719 it didn't really looked as if they were. You know, 80 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:52.680 you would have never if you didn't know anything about 81 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.039 Florida State previously as far as last year and what 82 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:56.919 their expectations were. I don't think any if you just 83 00:03:56.960 --> 00:03:58.919 looked at those two teams and didn't know their record 84 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:01.560 or name or anything like that, Boston Colleges looked like 85 00:04:01.560 --> 00:04:02.159 the better team. 86 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:05.560 Yeah, Florida State. 87 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:09.319 Became the team we saw last year because they had 88 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:12.120 really good wide receivers, they had a really good quarterback, 89 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:15.840 and they had an extremely strong defensive line and all 90 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.879 those positions seem. 91 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:19.639 Negative at best. 92 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:23.079 The Florida State d line, I mean, poor Pete Thammill 93 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.319 went on ESPN before the first game and said that 94 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:28.600 the scouts told him this is the best defensive line 95 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.800 in the country, and they were getting run over by 96 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:36.519 Boston College after getting run over by Georgia Tech DJU obviously, 97 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:39.079 I mean I was closer to I mean I was 98 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:41.680 watching that game thinking at different points, like you can't 99 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:44.199 put him back out there, like he's destroying the team, 100 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:46.160 is destroying himself. And then the very next drive they 101 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.920 didn't score, but he put two passes right on the 102 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:51.600 money and the tight end dropped it. So it was 103 00:04:52.279 --> 00:04:54.439 an all hands on deck failure for the Knowles. 104 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:58.920 So of the other big matchups, was there a result 105 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:01.279 that maybe surprised you more than others? I mean, I 106 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:03.480 think everybody expected some of the games to be close, 107 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:05.839 but Notre Dame did pull up, you know, did go 108 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:08.560 down and win at Texas A and M. Despite being underdogs. 109 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:11.279 LU wasn't able to hold on a big win for 110 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:13.399 Lincoln Riley to get things started. I mean, of the 111 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:15.920 other matchups, what what stepped out to you more maybe 112 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:18.399 than others as far as a result you didn't expect. 113 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:21.279 I mean, I have to say the biggest result I 114 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:24.560 didn't expect was I had Wyoming beating Arizona State outright, 115 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:26.600 and I was only forty two points off. 116 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:27.199 Close. 117 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.319 You were close, brother, I mean. 118 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.879 So Arizona State in terms of weight class was it 119 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:35.639 was the biggest in totality. 120 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:36.720 Was the biggest surprise. 121 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:40.600 I had Oklahoma State losing outright to South Dakota State. 122 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:44.360 That was a mistake. They won that game pretty easily. 123 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.800 As far as the big games, I had Miami beating Florida, 124 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.839 but I did not have Miami embarrassing Florida on its 125 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:52.439 own field. 126 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:54.519 And that's another. 127 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:59.519 It's it's these two I guess it's one week and 128 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:02.000 these two Floord State games have showed that. 129 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:04.600 I mean, we're in an age where. 130 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:09.680 Teams are just filling unless you have a generational type 131 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:10.600 guy at quarterback. 132 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:12.839 Teams aren't usually willing. 133 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:17.560 To wait out a struggling freshman or sophomore year from 134 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:20.399 quarterbacks anymore. They go out and get the next best 135 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:22.560 portal guy and they're just willing to live in the 136 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:23.680 poral at that position. 137 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:26.839 And it shows how much you can live and die. 138 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:31.800 By who you select at that position, and who you 139 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:33.680 go out and purchase at that position. 140 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:35.360 I mean, if kam Award's playing for. 141 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:38.160 Ford State, Florida State's probably two to zer right now. 142 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:41.519 And if dju is playing for Miami, they probably lose 143 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:42.959 that game in Florida. 144 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:46.079 Now, I'm with you, and you know you have I mean, 145 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:48.079 coaches are in a tough spots. No coach wants to 146 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:50.240 be young, right, I mean I don't know, because why 147 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:51.879 would you, And now you don't have to. You can 148 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:55.600 be experienced and you can now have guys who stick 149 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:58.639 around and play six seven years in certain instances, so 150 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:00.480 you know, the portal has made it to you don't 151 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:02.040 have to sit out. You have to wait on a 152 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:04.040 guy and think, okay, well, hey it's his turn. We'll 153 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:06.240 see what he can do. You know, you may give 154 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:08.600 that guy an option, but then again you're gonna know, hey, 155 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:09.959 I can go to the portal. Get a guy who's 156 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:12.240 won his job three years at a lower level. Maybe 157 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:14.120 he's going to be good enough to do it here, 158 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:15.959 like Miller Moss at USC like it's a guy who 159 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:19.720 waited for years behind really really good quarterbacks and Lincoln Riley. 160 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:21.240 You know, I don't know if it's what he saw 161 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:23.839 in the bowl game last year where Miller mass shredded Louisville. 162 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:27.160 But you know that what we saw with Miller Moss, 163 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:29.319 I feel like that's going to become really really rare, 164 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:29.720 is it not. 165 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:35.079 I already it was extremely rare to face off against 166 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:37.319 a guy who is largely I mean, ESPN did a 167 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:39.439 great job showing the graphic of these are guys who 168 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:42.360 waited their turn and then got cut in line by 169 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:45.560 portal guys that went on to win the Heisman, and 170 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:48.560 they still stuck around and both of them played really well. 171 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:52.000 And I think one thing this season has shown, if 172 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:54.879 we're just looking at Florida State is that was a 173 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:57.319 program that was built largely by a portal. But at 174 00:07:57.319 --> 00:07:59.439 the same time, it's not like guys were just swooping 175 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.160 in in Florida State was immediately going thirteen to no. 176 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:03.680 I understand they had some new. 177 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:05.279 Guys last year, but most of those guys, I mean, 178 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:09.279 especially Jordan Travis, as you well know, was a technically 179 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:11.920 a transfer, but he spent what four years at Florida 180 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:15.800 State after Louisville, so technically he was a transfer, but 181 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:17.639 really he was a guy that Florida State developed. 182 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.399 Yeah, yeah, not in the sense you see a transfer 183 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:22.759 quarterback at a big time school now, usually it's hey, 184 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:25.279 you know, they rented him for a year, like you know, 185 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:28.240 like a lot of schools are doing now. But it's 186 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:30.360 just I don't know, like if like, for example, not 187 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:33.480 that you're plugged in and give a damn about what's 188 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:35.200 going on at louis But there's a good example here. 189 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:37.559 They've got a kid named Pierce Clarkson who has been 190 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.759 waiting and he's a red shirt freshman this year. He 191 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:42.399 got some reps last year. You know, he's the backup 192 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:45.240 right now, and I think the hope is that he 193 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:49.480 takes advantage of opportunities to play when Louisville's beating a 194 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:52.440 Jacksonville State and beating an Austin p maybe beating a 195 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:55.799 Virginia and he doesn't get you know. I mean, it's experienced, 196 00:08:55.799 --> 00:08:57.360 but it's not the same thing as being a starter 197 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:58.600 and going out there and trying to win the game. 198 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:00.440 You're in the game because it's mop up, dude. But 199 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:02.639 I justo, if I'm Jeff Brohm'm thinking, Okay, I've seen 200 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:04.279 enough from this kid. I really do like him. But 201 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:06.639 then again, I know what's in the portal, and it'd 202 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:08.320 be hard for me not to just know, Hey, I 203 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:11.399 could probably go get another you know, big name guy. 204 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:15.799 I could probably go get another quarterback. Coaches choosing to 205 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:18.440 not go to the port unless your name's Debo Sweeney, 206 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:20.000 I just feel like it's gonna be really, really rare. 207 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:25.480 Yeah, And it's the ultimate push pull that coaches. I mean, 208 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:27.559 this is this question right here is going to make 209 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:33.679 or break so many coaches. Is obviously, you can't just 210 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:37.320 live in the portal. You have to the portal should 211 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:40.159 be a supplement to your high school recruiting. But at 212 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:44.000 the same time, how many guys have that equity in 213 00:09:44.039 --> 00:09:45.600 their jobs. 214 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:50.320 Where if you go eight and four, can you survive. 215 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:53.519 A five and seven season while you build up and 216 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:56.200 develop your high school guys, or do you feel the 217 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:58.840 need to, well, if I need to win at least 218 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:01.240 seven games next year, to go get some portal guys, 219 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:03.639 And then you're you leads, you. 220 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:06.600 Sin and in your depth, and. 221 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:10.159 You you're constantly just trying to refill what you're You're 222 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:12.600 Robin Peter to pay Paul. Sure, at that point, I 223 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:14.159 I don't have the answer to that. 224 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:17.039 Yeah, And I I think it's going to become an 225 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:19.120 annual thing. When you get to the end of the season, 226 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:21.600 these coaches are going to say, well, I need a 227 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:23.320 few good men. Let me look at this portal and 228 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:25.480 see who can come and save my career. Because that's 229 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:28.200 how that's how desperate I needed. So there's you know, 230 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.120 when that didn't exist, it would be much more unlikely 231 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:32.960 for a guy to have a big, out of nowhere 232 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:35.840 special season. But with the portal, again, you you take risks. 233 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:37.279 You never really know what you're gonna get, but there 234 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.399 are the occasional finds to where it can it can 235 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:42.279 it can create something special. So real quick on a 236 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:43.960 couple of other big games, as far as you know 237 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:47.360 big brands, these weren't. These weren't competitive games. But with 238 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:51.440 Georgia and Clemson, it's impossible to know. But thirty four 239 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:53.039 to three was the score. It was actually six to 240 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:56.200 nothing at halftime. What did that's in your opinion? Did 241 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.480 that say more about Georgia or more about Clemson. 242 00:10:59.679 --> 00:11:01.759 I think said more about Clemson, just for the fact 243 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:03.879 that no one expected him to win the game. But 244 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:07.759 they were two touchdown underdogs, which is obviously significant, and 245 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:11.480 they weren't even I mean they lost by they didn't 246 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.720 even cover the spread by what's seventeen points. Yeah, their 247 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:18.679 offense they just had nothing. I mean, they could still 248 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:20.600 be out there playing and Clemson win them scored a 249 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:26.240 touchdown yet, And so every time I watch Clemson, they're 250 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:30.480 asking kid Clubnick to do everything, and he's running for 251 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:33.039 his life and has to make sixty decisions a game 252 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:36.960 between the run game and the throw game, and he's 253 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:38.039 often he's late. 254 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:42.320 He didn't have a lot of huge windows to throw to. 255 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.919 I remember the one throw on the corner route that 256 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:47.559 was really nice that got them to midfield that I 257 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:50.039 think that was as far as they penetrated until the 258 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:55.600 second half. So I don't think Caid club Nick is great. 259 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:57.679 But I also don't think he's got a whole lot 260 00:11:57.960 --> 00:11:59.279 of help on that side of the ball. 261 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:00.679 And obviously it's. 262 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:04.120 Been well documented Dabo has been negligent in getting him help. 263 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.799 Let me let me ask the same question, but about 264 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:12.360 Miami in Florida, because I think with with with Florida. Obviously, 265 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:14.720 Billion Napier has been discussed as a guy who has 266 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:17.759 you know, I think odds said that he was the 267 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:19.600 most likely to be the first Power five coach fired. 268 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:21.039 I'm not sure if that's nded up happening or not, 269 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:23.879 but let me let me rephrase, is it. Is it 270 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:27.440 accurate to say that, despite all the talk and the 271 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:31.399 heat surrounding Billion Napier, that his season actually has gotten 272 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:33.120 off to a worse start than anybody would have expected, 273 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.360 not only to get embarrassed at home by Miami, but 274 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:38.039 then to come out and kind of criticize fans for 275 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.399 their criticism, like, I feel like this guy's trying to 276 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:41.320 lose his job, Zach. 277 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:45.840 So I actually wrote about that today and I went 278 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.320 back and watched the press conference, and in his very 279 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:51.919 next sentence, he comes out and says that he understands 280 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:56.159 that they're they're going to be criticized and that they're. 281 00:12:57.440 --> 00:12:58.320 That's part of the job. 282 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:00.600 So I feel like that part of it was overblown, 283 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.840 but the statement leading up to that was overlooked because 284 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:08.120 he's ventured into Butcher Jones Champions of Life territory, where 285 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:12.799 he's talking about they have great they have great character, 286 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:15.279 they just need to work on the football part, Like 287 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:19.039 that's kind of your entire job is to work on, 288 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:21.240 quote quote the football. 289 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:22.480 And those those are some of the last signs that 290 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:23.360 it's over, is it not? 291 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:24.679 Yeah? 292 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:28.600 I mean, as I wrote, he's ventured into these college 293 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:31.720 football coaches are so powerful, but when they lose the plot, 294 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:35.120 they become substitute teachers who have lost control of their 295 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:38.720 eighth period class. And they say eventually gets clowned on 296 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:42.720 and people start suiting them out. And that's happened very 297 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:45.919 quickly for Napier after and again, it's not that they 298 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:50.279 lost the game as an unranked team to a ranked opponent, 299 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:51.480 it's that they got blown out. 300 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:53.120 Have you published that yet? 301 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:54.120 Oh? 302 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:56.080 Yeah, I need to see it. I want to read 303 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.639 it because I mean I find myself fascinated, not that 304 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:01.399 I'm you know, getting great in enjoyment in somebody's downfall, 305 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:03.279 but I think with billiy Napier again, like it is 306 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:05.559 wild to me, and I watched it kind of play 307 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:07.720 out here in basketball, where you can just when you 308 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:10.840 follow a program close, you know, the little things you see, 309 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:14.080 body language, mannerisms, the way coaches say things. You can 310 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:16.759 kind of tell they like they kind of they probably 311 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:19.480 won't let their mind acknowledge it, but they know it's over. 312 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:21.200 And I kind of sense that that's the way things 313 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:24.240 are going with billiy Napier. I know I asked you 314 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:25.840 this last time we talked, but I got to ask 315 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:28.639 again since we're talking about it. Who you calling? If 316 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:30.360 you're the AD at Florida and you get rid of. 317 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:35.080 Him, that's such a good question. I feel like. 318 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:39.960 At this point this is never really a good answer. 319 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:43.799 But they're in a weird situation where their interim president. 320 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:47.360 Is also their previous president. The AD is the guy 321 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:52.080 that hired him. The AD before him hired Dan Bullen. 322 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:55.679 So usually when you fire your second coach that you've hired, 323 00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:59.000 you follow him out the door. Sure, in this situation, 324 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:01.679 if that doesn't happen, and you kind of got to 325 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.600 I mean, we're in such an age where you got 326 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:04.960 to go to the money people and be like, who 327 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:07.279 will you guys support because it does no one any 328 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.440 good to go higher. 329 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:13.000 You know, coach X if as soon as. 330 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:15.720 You gets there, he's dead on arrival because the money 331 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.360 for facilities and the money for players drives up. 332 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:19.919 I mean, you got it, you kind of. 333 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:23.279 If Scott Circling stays around, I think you've got a 334 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:24.960 crowdsource your next hire. 335 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:26.200 Is it? 336 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.279 I mean, it's it's an elite job, right, Like actually 337 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:29.639 let me ask you this again. I'm just throwing these 338 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.120 rabid fire questions at you. Where would you rank that 339 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:33.120 job in the sec? 340 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:40.440 Below Georgia, below LSU, below Alabama? He's probably right there 341 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:45.840 for in it it's it's very similar to the Texas job, 342 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:50.759 and that people think it's easier than it is. I 343 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.720 rate it below Oklahoma just the resources aren't there. But 344 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:57.000 Oklahoma has a tradition of winning now, and I mean, 345 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:03.799 we look at it's beginning to raise the question where 346 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:04.720 Steve Spurry. 347 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:06.279 Or Irban Meyer are just too all time. 348 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:08.039 Great that happened to do what they did at Florida 349 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.080 and no one else there to figure it out. 350 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:12.080 It's a good point. They are close to where if 351 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:14.559 one if another one just doesn't seem to take off. 352 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:16.919 I think that, I mean, I'm sure that already is 353 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:18.399 probably being said by a lot of people, but I 354 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:20.519 hadn't thought about that, that it was really just two 355 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:23.039 guys that really had it at its peak and others 356 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:25.519 have kind of not only struggled to get there, but 357 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:27.600 some have just had a really really tough time. I mean, 358 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:29.879 I feel like more often than not, the Florida football 359 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:32.360 programs since Urban Meyer when you're talking about it is 360 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:34.879 that it's underwhelming and that they're going to need to 361 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:36.759 make a change. Can they get back to where they were? 362 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:38.879 And they haven't done that just yet. All right, one 363 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:40.879 more question for you of the games here coming up 364 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:44.200 in week two. Obviously, I know your Longhorns are involved 365 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:46.600 in the biggest one Texas in Michigan. That should be 366 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.120 a hell of a game. But outside of that, what 367 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:50.320 do you make of a slate? I mean, you have 368 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:52.639 much interest in the Tennessee and C State game, Colorado 369 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:55.120 and Nebraska. Just curious if there's any games that stand 370 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:56.720 out to you that you're really looking forward to watching, 371 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:57.799 not that you're not going to enjoy all of it 372 00:16:57.840 --> 00:16:58.720 because you're a football guy. 373 00:16:59.759 --> 00:17:02.919 Yeah, Colorado Nebraska will be fun to watch, for sure. 374 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:05.640 I'd like to see if Nebraska can keep it rolling. 375 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:10.960 Colorado was very fortunate to beat North Dakota State and 376 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:12.440 to now have to go on the road and play 377 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:15.640 a team that should be better. That's gonna be interesting. 378 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:18.119 And the Tennessee and C State doesn't do a whole 379 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:20.519 lot for me. But I am interested in that South 380 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:23.039 Carolina Kentucky game because I agree with what you were 381 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:25.799 saying before I came on that people are now starting 382 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:27.839 to circle South Carolina is like, this is the one 383 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:29.559 we got to get. I mean, if you can't beat 384 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:33.319 South Carolina, we're in trouble. And I know they've had 385 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:33.920 trouble with him. 386 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:34.880 I was just watching. 387 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.359 Earlier today that the clips from the last time South 388 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:41.400 Carolina was in Lexington and Shane was dancing and to 389 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:45.400 make fun of Mark Stoops. This is a game where 390 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.279 both sides are pointing at each other saying, if we 391 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:51.200 can't beat these guys, we're in trouble. And those are 392 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:54.480 always fun games because as we saw last week, someone's 393 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:56.599 gotta lose that game and it's gonna be uncomfortable. 394 00:17:57.359 --> 00:17:59.200 All right, i'lled one more thing. I just want to 395 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:01.039 open up and be honest with you because I consider 396 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:02.759 you a friend, Zach. I have had to come to 397 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:05.920 grips with the fact that I'm a hater. I I 398 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:10.079 genuinely want nothing more than to see Dion Sanders fail, 399 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:12.480 and he's not done anything to me. I don't care 400 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:15.359 about Colorado football. Maybe this is me just being like 401 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:17.680