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Speaker 1: Wrestling too for a mature audience.

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Speaker 2: I don't develop her.

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Speaker 3: Population and that relationship lines.

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Speaker 4: In this case, I could true by everything in bens

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Bean Bency Welch, and she had two children that were

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adults now by the name of Deborah, and I can't

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think of the other the boy's name. His name speaks

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to me, but ironically he got Sereuper Palsey like me.

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It just didn't affect him quite as much as it

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did me. But his name for the purpose of the

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story doesn't matter. But for the record, I have none

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against him, nothing against Deborrah, nothing against any member of

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the Welsh family, including Betsy's husband, William Welch. That she

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called Chad this whole time she said she was getting

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in the divorce from Chad, and there was no Chad.

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William wels turn out to be William Welton, not Chad Welch.

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The only way I was able to find out about

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it is because when her story started to collapse, when

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she didn't drive to see me, or didn't drive to

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as she put it, flucked my brains out. I got

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a subscription to Ben b E in benverified dot com,

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which now has grown to do many other other things.

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But at the time it was only for background checks

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and phone numbers and addresses and stuff like that. Now

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it's with ve hipples and ancestry and various other things

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besides everything I just told you a background jack and adresses'sonner.

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Speaker 5: Was all that.

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Speaker 4: And I only spent one dollar to find out that

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Betsy Welch was married to a William Welch and not

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Chad Welch.

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Speaker 3: And then somehow I met and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: Now it's with v Hipples and ancestry, and I got

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a subscription to being. The only way I was able

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to find out about it is because when her story,

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think of the other who's gonna run into any woman

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or any type of relationship where at least half of

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the population and that relationship lies well in this case,

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I puld true a boy everything, and Betsy Welsh gold

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true about nothing basically except for her name them Betsy Welsch,

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and she had two children that were adults now by

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the name of Debra, and I can't think of the other.

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The boy's name, his name mistakes me, but ironically he

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gets Ruper Palsey like me. It just didn't affect him

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quite as much as it did me. But his name

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for the purpose of the story doesn't matter. But for

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the record, I have none against him, nothing against Debra.

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I have nothing against any member of the Welsh family,

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including Betsy's husband, William Welch. That she called Chad this

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whole time she said she was getting in the door

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from Chad, and there was no Chad. William Welch turned

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out to be William Welch in not Chad Welch. The

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only way I was able to find out about it

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is because when her story started to collapse, when she

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didn't drive to see me, or didn't drive to as

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she put it, flucked my brains out. I got a

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subscription to bend in benverified dot com, which now has

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grown to do many other other things, but at the

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time it was only for background checks and phone numbers

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and addresses and stuff like that. Now it's vehicles and

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ancestry and various other things besides everything that I just

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told you. A backround check, addresses, if numbers, all that,

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and I only spent one dollar to find out that

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Betsy Welch was married to a William Welch and not

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Chad Welch, and then somehow I met Betsy's sister Brenda,

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who doesn't speak to me anymore because I put videos

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on this channel which I have since taken down, complaining

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about Betsy Welch and the rest of the Wells family. See,

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even though I don't have anything against William Welch, William

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Welch is the only one that could stop Betsy from

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being a pathological liar. Because William William Welch had a

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good job as a minor working underground in the mines

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in Alabama and other places and made good money, allowed

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Betsy Welsh to sit at home and never work a

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day in her life, while myself and many others, both

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with and without disabilities, worked more in one week, even

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tho i've been more than one week, more than one week,

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even though not working now as a June of two

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thousand twenty six, we've done more in one week than

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Betsy wels has ever done entire life because she's been

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leaning on William Welsch's income and not having to work

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for a living. That's why she has no consequences her

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lives in deceptions and anything else. And William Welch on

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the other hand, while he's never done nothing to be personally,

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William Welch has never made Betsy Welsch pay for cheating

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on him with me or Lane or any of the

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other hundreds of men that Betsy Welch has cheated with

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in the past, either on the Internet or in person.

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Because you can't tell me that Betsy wilk hasn't drove

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somewhere in dunk Hoo Dunk, Alabama and fleck some man,

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probably for some money, and told him the same story

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of the Chad wels thing instead of William Welch. If

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you know what I mean, well, I have respect for

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Betsy Welch's mother or Iphy James, who I'm not sure

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is a live now or not.

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Speaker 3: I took down the videos I say.

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Speaker 4: I had like three videos up here complaining about the

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Betsy Welll situation at that time, and I was hoping

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that the Wells's family would rally behind me and do

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something about Betsy Welch, because I truly believe that's he

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needed to pay for her mistakes. I wasn't going to

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try to kill her or put a contract out or

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anything like that because I need but prison. But I

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thought the Wells family would do something when in fact

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all the Westmam media was absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 3: I don't hold down on Misty too any member the

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Speaker 4: But until you do something or get William Wells, her husband,

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to cut Betsey's money off, there's not gonna be any

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any complications or consequences, I should say for Betsy's passed

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presidental future actions, because I'm sure Bessy hasn't stopped.

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Speaker 3: She's just become more undercover about it than she had

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in the past.

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Speaker 4: So I got very upset at the time I thought

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about the big suicide, came close to doing it.

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Speaker 3: I almost tried it.

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Speaker 4: I even told him I actually tried, even though I didn't,

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because I wanted them to understand the seriousness of Betsy's

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actions and try to do something to make William Welsh,

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who is the only person that could make Betsy pay

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by cutting her money off, because that Betsy had to

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go get a job. Oh my god, she probably wouldnt

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know how to flip a hamburger. And McDonnell's I've sent

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saying more current of Betsy's pictures and she's really going downhill,

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looks wise, and I'm sure hasn't stopped her bullshit. But anyway,

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long store short for this video, she never trained as

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the worst fler. She was never a real estate agent.

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The only thing that was true about Bessy's life was

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her name and her children's name, Deborah, and I can't

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think of the other guy's name. I really can't forgive me,

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I mean no disrespect. But the only good thing that

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came out of that was I met Betsy's doaller Dipper,

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who was Debora Bagker at the time.

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Speaker 3: She's now married to another guy, but at the time,

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strangely enough, I.

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Speaker 4: Thought I might have a chance with Depper, But the

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reality was even if I had not met Pittsy first,

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and I don't think debver would give me a chance

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to good to my age. But more importantly than that,

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I don't live near phil Campbell, Alabama, And for some reason,

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Deborah is gonna dig in her heels and make sure

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that her man comes from phil Campbell, Alabama, so she

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can stay in phil Campbell, Alabama, just like oars.

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Speaker 3: Some people in North Carolina, where I come from, even

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thought of.

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Speaker 4: In Pittsburgh now that are in smaller towns than Charlotte

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stair Onne where I come from, And I like it's

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a small time. Know if you're on called Walkingham, North Carolina.

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And I've heard women say I've been in rocking him

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all my life. I've been in Gason County all my life.

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Speaker 3: I'm not leaving.

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Speaker 4: So they get in one geographic area and they don't leave,

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and they expect their man, whoever that may be, excuse

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me to come from that one area. And when it

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doesn't work out and they get a divorced, they wonder

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why it didn't work out. Well, if you only try

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to find me in from one geographic small area in

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the first place, you kind of cut your choices down,

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regardless of their age or in my case, age and disability.

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I can't put in the words how much I love

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Debbora back then. I can't put in the words how

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much ever saved my life. I can't put in words

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how much I still love Debber. But it's one of

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those things that I know Deber is never going to

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love me, because Deborah is only wanting to love somebody

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from phil Campbell, Alabama. And even if I hadn't met

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Betsy before, I didn't have many conversations about whether Debver

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would get made doing my disability or not. And even

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if I hadn't met Betsy, I still want know the

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Debber would take me. But that's irrelevant. That's last time

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I heard. Deborah got married to somebody in phil Cambell

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and they had a couple of kids. So see Debra's

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prophecy came true. She found her a man in fil Cambell,

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Alabama who gave her a couple of kids. And I

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probably should shut up after that. Otherwise I sound like

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a jealous person and I don't want to do that.

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I love you, Deborah. Folks, that's the story about what

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happened to Betsy Welsh, and no, she never was a

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pro wrestler. That's gonna do it for me, Rusty, I'm here.

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As a matter of fact, Betsy Welch is still nothing.

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To the best of my ability. Betsy Welch is in

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her sixties and still never work outside the home a

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day in her life. One lazy bitch living off of

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That's gonna do with me, Rusty, I my matter else

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be about Betsy Welsch.

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Speaker 3: I have much respect for the rest of the Wells family.

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Speaker 4: Will of the Wells family got mad at me towards

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the end for putting videos up like this, I don't

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even have anything against Brenda. The only person I have

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anything against in the Wells family past presidental future is

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Betsy Welsch. But for the rest of the wels family,

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if you see this video, I have nothing that respecting

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admiration for you all.

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Speaker 2: This is a three x speed by the way, folks,

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Speaker 4: Know, anybody and get divorced, you deserve it. It's time

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you'd be freed from the prison that is Betsy Welsch. Deborrah,

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I love you, even though you're by a no man.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, folks. That's gonna do with me, Reussy, I'm

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not out here.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you next time for another addition of wrestling

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with rest you right on YouTube and until we get

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again in my friends. As the voice of aw Ian Recobunting,

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say happy wrestling everybody, and thank you for you past

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president you support.

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Speaker 3: Thanks everybody, how bye.

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Speaker 2: Just so you know, guys, that was found by thank

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you to Dan for that that was found because it

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carried the hashtags, uh, JD from NY and Sola Monster,

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and it was the dude talking about how he'd been

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catfished by a lady from Alabama and that, yeah, I

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was playing at a three x speed and yeah, yeah,

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that's that's that's nice, isn't it when you think about it.

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That's for his wrestling channel. So if you tune in

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to his wrestling channel, he's going to tell you about

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how he was catfished by a woman who told him

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that he was or she was trained to be a

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wrestler and that he was a promoter. But she was

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actively just a liar.

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Speaker 1: But what happened. I kind of came in late. I

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saw that you and Dan.

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Speaker 2: Were playing video or whatever, enjoyed that maybe maybe that's

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a frank and gust material video to play again. It

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was so I'm assuming Dan was just like trying to

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find whatever a video like Jason or No.

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Speaker 1: There was no likes on the video or nothing, so

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I knew, oh no, no, no, it was hotting off

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the presses.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't have hundreds of comments, you know,

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because it was a no. I guess it had the

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tags for Jason and JD and it was just some

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dude with cerebral policy talking about how he was catfished

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by a woman in Alabama that told him that she

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was a wrestler and a promoter and she stole his

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money and shit, and yeah, I mean, I guess it

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was kind of it's kind of sad, but it's also

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a little absurd at the same point, because this was

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like a fifty year old man.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know all fifty year old men with

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cerebral palsy need love too.

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Speaker 2: Joe, Well, yeah, but at some point you got to

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think to yourself to offer they just give it up.

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You won't even meaner than me. I was gonna say,

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I don't know, be a little cautious, maybe keep it local.

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You're like, end it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how many makeup wishes are left

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for fifty year old cerebral palsy.

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Speaker 2: You got wheels, we got high places, fucking peanut butter

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and jelly buddy, you.

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Speaker 1: We like make a wish with prostitutes, you know, like

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they give out coupons depending on how bad your your

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affliction is. Cerebral palsy's got at least be thirty percent off, right,

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So you'd.

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Speaker 2: Think to yourself, it would come with some sort of

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group on. Oh no, I was just thinking Thelma and

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Louise style. But that's yours is you see, this is

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how this is how it goes full circle like a wheel.

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You know, you started out mean and then I went

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mean or.

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Speaker 1: That's just right, right of course.

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Speaker 2: It's just that's a circle of life here, you know.

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Yeah, no, it's been. It's been a fucking

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dumb week for wrestling. Like there's really not much going on,

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but the news that is going on is dumb as shit, right,

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And I know we talked a little bit yesterday. I'll

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still have to edit that and post it. I'm I'm

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really upset by myself yesterday. I went back and I

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listened to that and I was just an absolute mess.

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I was very tired, cranky, me mish was a little cranky.

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I just iah. I wasn't good, man, It wasn't good.

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It was an hour and fifty minutes of me going

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uh huh, yeah yeah whatever.

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Speaker 2: Well. I was also as I had the zuomies.

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Speaker 1: Street fighter, go fuck yourself, piece of shit. Nobody noticed,

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go fuck yourself. I hope you get cerebral palsy. Fucking yeah, yeah,

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you know what, I'm going to introduce you. That lady

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from Alabama. Yeah, yeah, dude, that promoter. Oh, she's gonna

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make him a big stop, big star was cerebral palsy.

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We're gonna put you in the ring with Sammy Callahan.

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He doesn't have a job right now. Rise, at least

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it'd be a fair fight. At this point. If you've

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seen Sammy, it's uh, oh my goodness, is he doing bad.

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I haven't seen Sammy in a while.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, have you physically seen what he looks like now?

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Speaker 1: No, honestly, I think the last time I was paying

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attention is no. No, I saw him on a couple

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of teenage things. But yeah, no, its just been a minute. Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks like he cloned himself and ate it

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real like.

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Speaker 1: Really, yes, yeah, I mean he wasn't exactly a fucking

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a goddamn Hollywood starlet to begin with.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean he played the game. You know,

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he lost a bunch of weight and when he blew

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up on the Indies for a while, that's you know,

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that's how he played it. But he put it all

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back on and then some man, he looks, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: Good That's that's what happens when you lose that TNA contract. Huh,

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that's what that'll get you. The sadness. You feel a deep,

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deep sadness within your soul that can only be filled

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with Uh. I don't know, Nacho Cheese. I was actually

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laughing my ass off of TNA. Right. So TNA is

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trying to get up ratings for their their pay per

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view coming up, and so what do they do? Do

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they do marketing? Do they do heavy pushes of like

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commercials on TV or on streaming sites. Do they do

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a big social media push like maybe an Ama on

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a Reddit or something like that. No, No, Now they

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have a Lena Black standing in front of a fucking

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a port underneath a goddamn viduct in half a swimsuit,

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and that's and that's that's what's supposed to draw people

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into TNA.

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Speaker 2: Apparently, Well, this is this is one of those versions

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of TNA that always has come to pass.

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Speaker 1: You know, it goes through smell. Is that you or

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the fishes?

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Speaker 2: Mmmm? Well that's where that's where all these fired people's

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money went, I think, was to pay and to pay

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in just one attractive girl to be on the show. Apparently.

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But yeah, I mean that's one of those forms of

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T and A right where they've now been around so long,

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where they go through these different eras where it's like, look,

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it's all the ex WWE and WCW guys. Oh fuck that,

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We're not going to do that for a while. Look,

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we got a bunch of random indie strays that are

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outcasts from ROH and shit or middle aged guys. And

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then they're like, hey, well also women, look book, we

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found some good looking girls that haven't been signed away

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by other companies.

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Speaker 1: That's ship. You can smell the ratings and literally smell

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the ratings on that. Come on, that's what unattractive? It

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probably is, yes, unattractive. It's like, you know, hey, ladies,

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I want to see you in a beautiful, skin tight

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cat suit in front of a leaky nuclear a reactor.

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Oh that's just my fetish. What the fuck is that?

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Speaker 2: Do you know? What? Do you know what? It's also

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kind of weird just looking at that picture and this

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is no slight on her that there's.

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Speaker 1: Probably been at least three murders within five feet of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just right, yeah, right then, it actually looks

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like a place where Conkey's in Florida live.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an ongoing investigation right now.

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Speaker 2: Like if you they actually had to ai out all

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the police tape. I think in the background was.

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Speaker 1: Literally shut up. I hate this, dude. Do you know

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it's dude, I can't hear nothing, Dude, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: Every time I call me in here, I don't hear ship.

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Bro fuck show has been going on for sixteen years.

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How does anybody hear it?

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Speaker 2: Fus just figured it out years.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you mean I'm supposed to put the headphones

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on my head. Nobody told me.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find out one day that he's that he's deaf,

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and he just has gotten more progressively deaf and he

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doesn't know it.

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Speaker 1: He's waiting for the Braille instructions on the show. I'm deaf,

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not blind, you asshole. Yeah, he's just here sitting there.

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Just start giving a Morse code in the chat dash dash.

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There you go.

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Speaker 2: We did a lot of interesting things happen. You know

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from our live listeners, people have gotten engaged while listening

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to the show. People have been sitting there waiting for

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their children to be born. Shout out to jail. It

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would be interesting if we were the people that advised

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someone that they'd gone deaf, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, why not?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, can I get blamed for that one too, I'd

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love to take that badge and uh for the STITCHR

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Awards In twenty twenty six, Anthony Thomas made somebody deaf.

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Speaker 1: It's just.

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Speaker 2: And Mark Marin's there. It's crazy, man, my fucking mind.

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Bam how uh it's it's not bad. It's a good.

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Speaker 5: There's no more children bothering you. Jesus Christ, that's good.

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I mean, I'll tell you the lack the lack of

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things right. And I was saying this to you the

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other day when people, you know, if I retire, I'm

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going to be bored.

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Speaker 2: Good. Give the free time to me. I'll take it,

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all right, thanks, Yeah, that sounds good to me. Oh man,

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I just wouldn't know what to do with myself. I'm sorry.

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You can't entertain yourself as an adult?

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Speaker 1: Horazy? Are you that somebody gives you an infinite amount time?

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You're like, I have nothing to do?

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Speaker 2: Well? I mean I could spend this time like learning

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or you know, enriching myself or learning this new skill,

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maybe cooking, or you know, coming up with some No,

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I'm just I just can't handle it, man, I need

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to be making someone else money. Why, yeah, just to

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just stop, you know, Like the last two days, I've

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gotten up, I've gone to breakfast. I've eaten breakfast by myself,

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which is one It's wonderful. I love it. Like when

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I see like little guys at the McDonald's eat.

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Speaker 1: You still have the kids in the house. You still

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have the kiddies in the room.

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Speaker 2: Ba like you Si well the cat the cat's kadie.

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Speaker 6: Where are you going?

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Speaker 2: Fuck you?

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Speaker 1: I gotta go eat.

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Speaker 2: You get the breakfast burrito. Your cats don't bother you

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about food, mesh. I feed them in the moon.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: I don't get up and just walk right by them.

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Speaker 1: And it's like.

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Speaker 2: I got like a little nineteen nineteen hundreds fucking popper

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hats on, Papa, Can you please crack a can for me?

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I got Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You you act like cats are like these just poor

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little victims. Man. My cats will eat their entire bowl

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of food, and then if I grab myself anything, they're

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both sitting by my lap. Now now, now.

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Speaker 2: I like the Jeff gold blooming of the cat right now,

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that's my father.

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Speaker 1: Oh food, Yeah, it's filthy, just like that. That is

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what my cat looks like. She shows out her cuca

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and she just looks at you with her kuka fucking

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spread out waiting for a French fry or something. It's

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just it's horribly it's horribly adorable. It's absolutely adorable. That's

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why I hate her so much, because it's like they

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know what they do, and they know.

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Speaker 2: They know. I mean, well, you know what, I think

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it's a good idea because we as guys, as we age,

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we should stick to our cats. Because look what happened

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to guys like Tommy Dreamer. Oh wow, get away from

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the ladies. Just get yourself a couple of cats. Like

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I said, get a breakfast burrito. You don't need none

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of this. Get trying to get yourself.

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Speaker 1: Tommy Dreamer thing, because something happened to them online on

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social media enough where the board news sheets were highlighting it.

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I guess some black streamer or something like that called

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out Tommy Dreamer and then they deleted their counter some bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Well I like the alliteration you had.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no idea, I'm literally going by. I passed

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by this news story because I thought it was a

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nothing burger and I was like, oh, somebody, somebody said

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something mean to Tommy Dreamer on social media.

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Speaker 2: But apparently there's some story about, uh, he said something

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to an indie kid like I don't know how to

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promote a cocky black and you wrestler or something, which

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is weird, which is kind of odd. I don't know

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what he was going for with that. And then I

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guess there was another one too, where some indie girl

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said that they did a spot in a match where

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he did a fucking spank. He basically did his nineties shit,

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that's all. It was like, Tommy Dreamer has done that

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same girl getting fucking r you know, she comes into

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the ring and tries to hit him with the kendo

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stick and he spanks her. He's been doing that fucking

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spot for thirty years.

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Speaker 1: And now someone's getting offended by it. Is that what

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you're saying?

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Speaker 2: Apparently, Well, the girl was like I felt like I

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couldn't say no to him, because yeah, but this is

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one of those things I think, where all right, this

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is where community there's a communication breakdown right where yes,

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obviously Tommy Dreamer should know in the year of our

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Lord twenty twenty six that those types of spots like

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Sandman fucking rubbing his pouring beer on tits and rubbing

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his face like it's like we're still fucking We're not

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doing that shit anymore, dude, that was literally nineteen ninety

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six fucking type wrestling spots. But also I get people

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in that we can't say no, don't.

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Speaker 1: Hire the wrestler from nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point. I'm yeah, yeah, that's also a

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really good I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not victim blaming or nothing, but that is really silly

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that you're looking for something innovative and new from a

471
00:22:50,079 --> 00:22:52,839
guy whose best time happened thirty fucking years ago.

472
00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,039
Speaker 2: Just what And he certainly is not He's not a

473
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,000
spry fifty something year old guy, you know what I mean. Like,

474
00:23:05,079 --> 00:23:07,440
it's not like you're bringing him in and you know.

475
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,839
Speaker 1: People are going like there's girls that have like resting

476
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,400
bitch face to Tommy has like natural stroke face, Like

477
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:19,279
I just guess he's he's very tired, Tommy needs a nap.

478
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 2: So Tommy Dreamer is the type of guy where you

479
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,960
look at him and you reconsider your own reflection in

480
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,559
the mirror when you look at him, because you go,

481
00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:35,440
Tommy Dreamer might look at himself in the mirror and go,

482
00:23:35,839 --> 00:23:39,319
all right, I look older, but you know, all right, yeah,

483
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,359
you know we're like, am I doing the same thing?

484
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,400
Do I want to go? Do I have to gott

485
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,400
to pull out a microscope really or a little fucking

486
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,319
magnifying glass and just look at myself and go, my

487
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,160
Tommy Dreamer in this right now? Because holy fuck?

488
00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:54,039
Speaker 8: But no.

489
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six, the year of our Lord. In

490
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,279
the professional world, I am surprised to even hear people

491
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,599
tell or younger wrestlers tell the story of like you

492
00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:09,799
just do whatever the vets tell you to do or

493
00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:12,319
you're just supposed to do that. I'm like, people are

494
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,599
still training wrestlers like that. I thought by a hooker,

495
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,160
by crook, or like you know, for better or worse,

496
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:24,480
that they just weren't doing that anymore? Does that he that? Well?

497
00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but do people say that to like relieve accountability.

498
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,599
So in one scenario, right, if you're a young cat

499
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,839
and you're in wrestling and you're coming up and there's

500
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,640
a veteran around, you just do whatever they say, not

501
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,200
necessarily because you know anything better, but because if it

502
00:24:40,319 --> 00:24:42,640
all goes horribly wrong, you have a finger to point

503
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,680
at I.

504
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: Well, it's also supposed to be a yes, you listen

505
00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:52,079
to the VET in that situation, not only just because

506
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,359
they're uh, they should know better than you do in

507
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,759
this situation because their experience, but also you're right if

508
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,759
if the shit goes and it doesn't work out well,

509
00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:05,039
and they fuck up or they do something, no one

510
00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:07,039
can then turn around and look at you and be like,

511
00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:10,119
what the hill's wrong? Would you agree? Horn? And you're like, well,

512
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,559
I was a guy who's been wrestling for twenty years

513
00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:14,400
told me that that's what we're supposed to do.

514
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:16,599
Speaker 1: I was actually just joking and being a dick. But

515
00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:17,720
sure that works too.

516
00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:19,279
Speaker 2: Oh no, well, I mean.

517
00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: That all the reason my career didn't take off was

518
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,960
because William Regal doesn't know how to wrestle, Like.

519
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:33,759
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, wow, well no, but this this is

520
00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:37,440
also one of those moments where and once again to

521
00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:41,359
not like shift blame onto her in the situation, but

522
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,960
absolutely just fucking like any young younger woman in wrestling

523
00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:48,839
right now, just fucking say no to shit, Like just

524
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,119
if you don't want to fucking do it, just absolutely

525
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,119
positively say no to it, because once again, it's not

526
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,720
nineteen ninety six, you know, where it's like, oh, what's

527
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:02,240
good Tommy Dreamer, they gonna turn around and don't fucking

528
00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:04,480
ruin my career, Like, fucking hell he is.

529
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: Tell me about Tommy Dreamer, then let's let's be honest.

530
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,000
Then is Tommy Dreamer one of those guys that's unapproachable?

531
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,440
Is he one of those people that you know he

532
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:16,960
inspires or commands fear in people, or is he? Because

533
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,960
I mean, like, right, right, I know I'm saying this

534
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,799
and it's like half joking, but I don't know.

535
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:24,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's like he's just he's like a half of.

536
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: Every I mean, he's not like a build a mode

537
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,720
or nothing. Right, He's not going around slugging people in

538
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,680
the air and shit.

539
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,559
Speaker 2: No, he's not even like a fucking Tubby there, Tubby

540
00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:37,920
fucking Dudley, Like he's not. He He's not like some

541
00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:42,920
overly aggressive fucking dude, which is why your girl Mickey

542
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,160
there came to came like basically came to his defense

543
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,480
and was like, what the fuck's going on? This seems

544
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,000
really odd? You know, like she she was kind of

545
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,640
outright like, hey man, I've known this guy for twenty

546
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,000
five years. This doesn't seemingly add up to me, but yeah,

547
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,839
it really, like I said, it goes back to I'm first,

548
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,519
like I said, first and foremost surprised that anybody is

549
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:11,079
getting trained in a wrestling school environment in this day

550
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,799
and age and being told you just listen to the

551
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,160
vat which, like I said, for better or worse. Sometimes

552
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,240
it's good, sometimes it's not so fucking great. And then secondly,

553
00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:28,799
I'm very, very surprised to hear that this this girl

554
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:30,720
had the feeling that she couldn't just say no, that's

555
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,079
fucking weird. I don't want to do that. I think

556
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,440
if she has just said that to Tommy Dreamer, it'd

557
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,119
have been like, well, like, what's he gonna say? No,

558
00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:44,359
I must fucking spank your ass, like he's I have

559
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:48,559
I have an image to protect lady. Yeah, don't you know?

560
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:55,359
This is my entire gimmick. I'm fairly sure in that

561
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,519
moment if she if she would put her foot down

562
00:27:57,559 --> 00:27:59,960
and been like, yeah, that's a fucking no, I'm just

563
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:05,519
absolutely not, he'd have been like the Booker at this point,

564
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:09,200
I'm pretty sure Tommy Dreamer probably has kids or daughters.

565
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:12,359
This girl's age, right, assuming she's like in her twenties

566
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,599
or whatever, you know, because like Tommy Dreamer is an

567
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,079
older guy. Him and Beulah had kids in like the

568
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,960
early two thousands. Yeah, they gotta be, like I said,

569
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,640
the late teens, twenties. Like I have a feeling that

570
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,480
that was one of those moments where, yeah, it's a

571
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,720
communication thing, and yeah, I know it's like, well, Tommy

572
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:38,279
Dreamers fucking gonna get raked over the colls to this.

573
00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:41,880
I'm like, man, it's no one's gonna be honest to God.

574
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,720
By the time that Dan clips us and puts us

575
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,559
on YouTube for us, the people probably might have already

576
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,279
moved past it, because that's just how wrestling goes now,

577
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:56,799
where it's like I can't believe this egregious fucking thing,

578
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,880
and then twenty four hours later they're like ooh squirrel,

579
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:06,000
like it's it's it will be done incredibly quickly. So yeah,

580
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,720
you're right when you're like, I fucking just perceived this

581
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:10,440
as nothing burger well.

582
00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:13,279
Speaker 1: Because it was even present, like the dirt sheats did

583
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:18,039
a horrible job then trying to uh click people in

584
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,799
with the gravity of the situation, it just really sounded

585
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,720
like he was having a beef with somebody online. That

586
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:27,079
shit happens all the time. Yeah, I didn't know anything

587
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:30,640
about this perceived sexual assault by Tommy Dreamer.

588
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: Well, once again it goes back to wrestling and life

589
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,759
in general is going to be tougher for anybody that

590
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,519
struggles with communicating.

591
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, back to everybody wants to be a victim. Victims

592
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,160
get paid. We used to say that for fucking years,

593
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,880
that's all it is. Now somebody's getting attention to themselves

594
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:56,000
if they If Tommy Dreamer spanking her ass couldn't bring

595
00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:58,960
attention to her, well now her outing him as this

596
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000
big sexual de will right.

597
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: So which what's what's weird to me, hm is I

598
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,839
don't even think there's any currency in this type of

599
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,920
attention anymore. And I say that because not like, oh, hey,

600
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,519
you can pardony that into a gig, good for you,

601
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,400
but just because there's so many fucking people and like

602
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:27,119
you're not skipping the line because somebody looks at you

603
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,920
and goes like, I can't believe Tommy Dreamer touched your

604
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,440
ass and you weren't thrilled about it, or something like

605
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,519
it's just where seemingly past that we are at the

606
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,880
point in wrestling where what's her name? The girl that's

607
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,279
the champion for I always pronounce it wrong. Aw girl?

608
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:47,480
Is it tech techla?

609
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, necklace.

610
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:56,119
Speaker 2: She's like the next big thing for AW. And I

611
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,920
have not seen her. Yeah, I haven't seen her wrestle once.

612
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,079
Because she's really good. She good, she's really good. But

613
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,079
there's just so but missed. There's so many people that's

614
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,000
kind of like that's just where it's at. Like it's

615
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,680
like a hey man, here's this girl, Like she's got

616
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,400
a good look and a great attitude. Because like I

617
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,880
literally I'm only acknowledging this because I saw some interview

618
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,599
with her and there were a couple of clips with that.

619
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,240
I was like, yeah, she seems like pretty pretty chill,

620
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:27,119
like charismatic, charismatic lady. You know, maybe I should see

621
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,279
her wrestle once, you know, Like that's where my brain went.

622
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:34,400
But there's just so many people, men and women that

623
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,680
are wrestling to where when someone's like, yeah, you you

624
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,480
can use this as like as a launchpad. It's like

625
00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:43,680
a launch pad to what a fucking shitty indie show

626
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:46,880
in Ohio in front of seventy five people? What is

627
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,400
a what is getting somebody attention at this point other

628
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,000
than just like almost instantaneously being platformed by a bigger company.

629
00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: She's trying to be female stone Cold in a lot

630
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,119
of ways.

631
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,319
Speaker 2: She's She'sla Okay, She's or Techler or whatever name is.

632
00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:06,599
She's trying to be female stone Cold. Is that what

633
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:06,960
you're saying?

634
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she's dropping f bombs, you know, stone

635
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,720
Cold drop f bombs.

636
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I was just hoping you weren't talking about the

637
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,359
Assmac girl. I was like, she's trying to bet.

638
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: He put me over his heat.

639
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 6: What Tommy Dream respects my ass? What I said, Tommy,

640
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:35,559
Tommy Dream respects my ass? What stone was not feeling?

641
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:41,160
Tommy Dream respect his ass? What if you don't want.

642
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:47,599
Speaker 2: Tommy Dreamer, just clap your cheeks, give me a hell no.

643
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:50,359
Speaker 1: Now you've brought up the visual of Tommy pressing up

644
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,839
deep against the backside of Stone Cold, and that is

645
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,839
a visual, my friends. You don't He's just got.

646
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: An elbow resting in his lower back and he can't move.

647
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:02,480
He's just.

648
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: You're a little stiff with that forearm there.

649
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,799
Speaker 2: Tommy his knee brace and his george digging into the

650
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,400
mat to.

651
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: He's just like, well, it's not my forearm.

652
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:31,279
Speaker 2: Leading all my weight. Yeah, it's a fucking clown show. Well,

653
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:33,480
I guess now I gotta I gotta look at this,

654
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,440
this techla teclo lady.

655
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: I gotta see be something. She's just trying to be

656
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:40,839
cutting edge right now. She's mouthing off and stuff, and

657
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,839
she's kind of trying to build up a buzz by

658
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,680
being a little uh not not parent friendly, not family friendly,

659
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,759
which is fine. It works, you know, especially for the

660
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:53,960
a W fan base. They're eating it up. But yeah,

661
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:56,599
now that she's no, is.

662
00:33:56,559 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: She better than Tony Storm.

663
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,759
Speaker 1: I never liked Tony Storm though, and I know there

664
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:06,119
are people that ride or die for Tony Storm. I

665
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:12,599
just ah, it's you know, dressing up as a monochrome

666
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,519
fucking movie character from the nineteen twenties really didn't just

667
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:18,599
connect with me. I don't know. I mean, I'm old.

668
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:22,440
I'm just not that fucking old, you know. And well

669
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:22,960
she was.

670
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:25,639
Speaker 2: She was another one, and she's just like bad words.

671
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:28,679
You're like, yeah, but hers.

672
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: Was the allure of oh look it's a girl from

673
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,760
the nineteen twenties. Wrestling in the twenty twenties isn't that

674
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,639
for wacky. It's just these are all like punchlines, So

675
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,039
Tony Storm was an actual punchline. And then she went

676
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:46,119
back to being British punk rock chick, aussy punk rock chick,

677
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:50,079
whatever the fuck it was, putting a little bandaiana, the bandana,

678
00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:52,719
the little band aid, the little fucking what is it,

679
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,760
the seal or Nelly a little Nelly band aid on

680
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,559
her fucking cheek out of here.

681
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 2: Saint lunatic style. No, she was, Yes, she was a

682
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,519
backwards hack girl for a while. Maybe that's what it

683
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:07,440
was like, just the part of the reason why that

684
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:10,400
might have caught fire the way that it did, other

685
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,519
than it being pretty creative in a time where AW

686
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,800
was not very different than now, where I'm sure the

687
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,679
creativity is just flowing throughout that company, but at a

688
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,840
time where not a lot was going on, she went

689
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,039
from being a backwards hat indie girl, you know, to

690
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,440
actually having a gimmick. I guess I'm to.

691
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: Be clarified, small mustache. You're right, dude, I didn't say

692
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,440
she was ugly at all. Please don't misconstrue the way

693
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,559
I felt about her character and her TV shit is

694
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:41,480
saying that the girl was ugly. She is absolutely dropped

695
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,119
at gorgeous. It's just there's more to being a I mean,

696
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:47,079
if that was the case in Elena Black would have

697
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:49,079
at least a million views on TNA to I.

698
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:53,599
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, well, we've now hit the point where

699
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,760
and me and you have talked about this before, where

700
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,840
it used to be if they could get a sable

701
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:06,199
type woman to show up and be on WW anymore. Yeah, yeah,

702
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:10,760
well about this, but Miss's already like the last one, honestly, Joe,

703
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,559
the last one that they had that could pull that

704
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:16,400
off was Mandy Rose. Yes, yeah, and but Mandy can

705
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:18,800
actually work to an extent, well.

706
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,639
Speaker 1: Even before Mandy. All right, then if you want to

707
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:23,039
go with somebody who couldn't work, Eve Eve Torres or

708
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,800
whatever her name was, Yeah, all she did was come

709
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,199
out there, look pretty, almost wrestle and then that was it.

710
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,039
That was her whole giving right, right, right? But Torres?

711
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:35,159
Who was it? Am I wrong?

712
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: Ship?

713
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,199
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right.

714
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,639
Speaker 2: Whatever, it's all interchangeable.

715
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: Sorry, thanks for correcting me. I appreciate that, not like

716
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,079
there's a million fucking Eves in wrestling, all right, go on, sorry.

717
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:53,199
Speaker 2: But no, that's that is still, uh, that's dated. I

718
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:55,800
should say, it's not even a big thing anymore. It's like,

719
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,239
oh my god, you're able to get some like a

720
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,840
bikini model, fucking Fort Lauderdale bar tender girl to be

721
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,840
in a wrestling show. Like that's that is so fucking

722
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:12,679
like passe at this point where now they've gotten to

723
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,320
this point and I don't know what it is. I mean,

724
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,760
I know it's a series of like little factors and

725
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,480
have to just adds up over time. Culturally, I'm sure

726
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:25,800
all of the social media influence of this doesn't hurt.

727
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:31,639
But we've now gotten to this point where everybody becomes

728
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:34,719
so good at whatever the makeup and the styling and

729
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,400
the hair and shit, because they can just learn it

730
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:42,679
from the fucking TV where you're seeing even like WNBA

731
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,880
girls or like when they show whatever it is a

732
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,159
college basketball like if you watched any of the marsh

733
00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:52,400
Madness shit, they'll show like pictures of the team and

734
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:58,199
you're like, all these girls have like modelesque professional makeup done.

735
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,639
Like it's just it's not what it was where you know,

736
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:04,719
you just had a lot of people where a lot

737
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,199
of women I should say, where they're just kind of

738
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,639
like winging it where they're like, what if I just

739
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,800
mush a bunch of fucking uh the blue eyelighter, you

740
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:17,000
look like fucking Mimi bowback out there. Now, it's like

741
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:22,039
everyone has that skill or they just they learn it

742
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:25,320
earlier on in life and quicker and how to do

743
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,320
it more efficiently. So where like I said, you go,

744
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,320
oh my god, look at this this girl in wrestling

745
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,760
where she has a nice makeup and good hair and

746
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:40,320
good gear, and you're like, yeah, but that's baseline now, right,

747
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,400
It's like basic shit, like that's not even considered whoa

748
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,960
I oh my god, this girl looks so different professional,

749
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,480
and she's so highly above all these other ones. It's

750
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,760
like takes a lot to stand out, dude, takes a

751
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,320
hell of a lot. And I guess, going back to

752
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,480
Tony likes were like, well, well you stay at these stores,

753
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:03,960
not go looking pretty much, all go looking now all

754
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:04,360
the women.

755
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's also who they pick, right, There's there's

756
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,920
like levels to it too, because you say that, but

757
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,840
then you know, there's obviously the contingent that are very

758
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,039
negative against Naya Jacks, and there's people that think that.

759
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 2: This is pretty she's just a terrible wrestler who wears

760
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,079
horrible fucking clothes.

761
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,639
Speaker 1: You say that like it wasn't just a few short

762
00:39:24,639 --> 00:39:27,800
weeks ago, if that where everybody told us that last

763
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,840
legend was a dude who just got married.

764
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: So yes to Trippindales.

765
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, Like you're talking about, Oh,

766
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:36,760
it's so easy to get over for being so beautiful.

767
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,039
Here you have a girl who we thought was attractive

768
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:42,639
and obviously attractive enough to get married, and yeah, it's

769
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,960
just you know, it's just a dude dating another dude

770
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:45,920
marrying another dude.

771
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: Like it's just well, maybe that's also part of it too.

772
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:53,679
It's not saying like just being attractive is easier. Well,

773
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:55,880
I mean it can be easier for you to get over, obviously.

774
00:39:56,679 --> 00:39:59,440
I'm just saying like, it's not the last.

775
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: Time a girl went out there and tried not to

776
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,239
be attractive so young in TNA.

777
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:08,519
Speaker 2: Like, and the funny thing is a lot of that

778
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:10,400
time where they would go, oh what.

779
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,519
Speaker 1: Was that girl in a w fuck I forgot her name.

780
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's who I was thinking of, and absolutely.

781
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: Got attractive because she was still she was still smoky,

782
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,760
got all the zombie baked.

783
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,519
Speaker 2: And even yeah, I remember like then just seeing her, oh.

784
00:40:25,559 --> 00:40:31,639
Speaker 1: Damn, like Valhalla was always attractive. Stop it.

785
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if I remember correctly, she did date

786
00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:37,719
the hottest guy in wrestling ever, mad Man Pondo.

787
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: So with those yeah yeah.

788
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Man Bondo sit there and he just he's looking

789
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,400
at her. It's like she's just facially ten thousand times

790
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,960
more attractive than any woman he's probably ever been in

791
00:40:58,039 --> 00:40:59,679
the Meanwhile, he's like the slow.

792
00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 1: Pigmy when market bring me over those betty rubble feet.

793
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 6: Like.

794
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a weird Oh boy, well that was like

795
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,639
when she ended up with with Rowan, which Rowan's not

796
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:16,360
a bad looking guy either, but you know, just once again,

797
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,920
it's the wrestling world where people just say it's like

798
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,000
won people used to be like Russev's ugly, Like russ

799
00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:25,480
is not an ugly guy. He's just not a supermodel

800
00:41:26,039 --> 00:41:29,199
type whatever. But like I remember, really.

801
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: Well you've seen him before in a suit and ship

802
00:41:31,159 --> 00:41:33,159
that guy cleans up real well, that's why it's like

803
00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:37,079
all gimmick with Rusev, the giant Uni brow and yeah

804
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:38,840
that's all yeah.

805
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 2: He's he's ugging up. He has to ug himself up,

806
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,679
like that's what he's that's what he's going for. But no, like, uh, who,

807
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,280
what the fuck? What was her name?

808
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 6: Oh?

809
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Sarah whatever whatever she became Valhalla.

810
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

811
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: The people are like, oh, she's with Eric rowan guy.

812
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,800
I'm like, yes, she was a Madman Pondo. Come on,

813
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,800
come on, I think she's doing all right.

814
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: I think any girl owes it to herself to go

815
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,320
out with a man whose nickname is madman. Huh. Yeah,

816
00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:12,679
maybe she thought his name was actually man Madman Pound. Oh,

817
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,360
and she was like, oh that sounds the great time.

818
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:19,599
Speaker 2: She heard it. She heard at some point in her

819
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:24,360
life like some some some girls that she worked with,

820
00:42:24,639 --> 00:42:28,360
was just like, listen, the ugliest guy you can find.

821
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,559
They put forth the most effort. She's like, hmm Madoud.

822
00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:39,239
Oh yes, something about that name rings out to me. Oh,

823
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,199
somebody is starting to uh starting to know f with that.

824
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:45,639
Now that'll be their name, Madman Pound Tho.

825
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: What wrestler would do the Madman poundell on OnlyFans.

826
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: Joe Maybe Nick Gage now is fucking what else? Fucking fuck?

827
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:13,480
What a fuck from my penis? Fucking fucking shots, fucking intercourse,

828
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:23,800
fucking fucking shuts. Yeah, and that's just the whole video.

829
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:28,679
It's just him, just videos. That's his that's his trick

830
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:36,480
off instruction. He's just got no sh on his further. Damn,

831
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:44,280
it was fucking uh were Caddis's just like fuck fucking shut.

832
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:48,519
Speaker 1: Oh man, he's gotta wear one of those fucking uh

833
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:51,000
those Luca masks too, because I mean, it's not a

834
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,280
it's not an only fans page. If you're not wearing

835
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,760
a Luca Lucha mask as a guy, right.

836
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:01,679
Speaker 2: Uh your mask person, Well, then you have the masks.

837
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,519
Speaker 1: Mask versus hood, mask versus raincoast.

838
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, oh, mask versus hood. Then the yeah,

839
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,679
loser has to get circumcised. That would be Now, that

840
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:17,679
would be a stipulation, you know what. I mean, how's that?

841
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,599
You know what? Maybe that's you know what, that's the

842
00:44:19,639 --> 00:44:23,519
perfect match for like Russ V. And what's another European.

843
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: Dragon hood. There you go, a dragon off. Looks like

844
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,000
he could be the the victim of a Madman Pound just.

845
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: In a forced circumcision match. That's what.

846
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,519
Speaker 1: Oh sign it, Tony U.

847
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 2: Nick Age comes in fucking oil. Well it caught it like.

848
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,639
Speaker 1: John Moxley versus mad Man Pound.

849
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,679
Speaker 2: Yes, well, don't bring up John Moxley because yeah, I'll

850
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:04,559
get a Bubbaret Dudley all all flustered. I guess, poor guy,

851
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,840
you saw that that whole thing with uh, with Bubbaret

852
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,840
Dudley being like I could beat up John Moxley. It's like, dude,

853
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,679
John Moxley fucking sucks. But you know he'd kicked the

854
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,880
shit out of you, dube.

855
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: Is he just vying for a job.

856
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like there's some part of

857
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:27,360
me that feels like this is all promotion for some

858
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,880
fucking indie show and everybody's just buying it though it well.

859
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,039
Speaker 1: That's what they were doing for braun Strowman, right like

860
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:37,280
braun Stroman got in trouble. I guess trouble quote unquote

861
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:43,119
because he started talking shit about OBA online and.

862
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: Which unless he's saying something like, I don't know.

863
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,599
Speaker 1: I didn't even get to see the tweets. I saw

864
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:51,960
the fucking after effects, right, and people called out there like, uh,

865
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:55,239
he's stupid. You know that. You know w We was

866
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,159
paying him for months for his cooking show after they

867
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:02,000
fired him, right like, this is probably all part of it.

868
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:04,840
Probably is, It's probably all part of something where and

869
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,840
you even said it first, when we were talking about it, like,

870
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,400
dude will come back for fucking thirty days to lose

871
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:11,840
to Oba?

872
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course he would. I need to have a

873
00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:16,000
good attitude about it too, I'm sure.

874
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: The first thing I thought of was, oh, food fight.

875
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,360
They're gonna have a food fight. That way, Russev can

876
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,039
promote the next season of his cooking show or whatever,

877
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,559
and Oba can kick the ship out of them.

878
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: Like there you go. You know what they do? They

879
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,559
have a they have a match, and then they beat

880
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:34,360
the ship out of each other and they shake hands

881
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,280
at the end, and then Oba goes on his show

882
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,159
and has a.

883
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:38,679
Speaker 1: Yeah is it?

884
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: Is it Nigeria or Kenya? Which is the I don't know.

885
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:45,199
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Bronz Stroman isn't from either of those places.

886
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:54,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you sure? What would give you that impression?

887
00:46:57,639 --> 00:47:00,519
Brun Stroman, SAT's wearing the beating now is go to

888
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:10,719
woo a Southern accent? Oh yeah, no, that would honestly,

889
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,880
that would be the kind of the move right. We'd

890
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,000
have bron come back at some point and they have

891
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:19,360
a fight and then they he earns his respect and

892
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,760
then he goes on Bronz Strumman show and He's like,

893
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,119
I'm gonna fucking take you to a Nigerian restaurant and

894
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,719
lead everything on the menu or something.

895
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe right around Survivor series and everybody's doing Thanksgiving

896
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,360
and shit, I don't know, maybe that's a time for

897
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,440
a for a food guy's food show when it comes

898
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,920
back to get involved with something.

899
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:39,079
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's not bad And I actually, honestly,

900
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:41,360
I kind of like that. I don't think that's a bad,

901
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:42,719
no good idea, you know what.

902
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: And Triple H was talking with stephen A. Smith about

903
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,119
wrestling fans take shit too seriously, where a bunch of

904
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:52,320
curmudgeons we forget that WWE is supposed to be fun. Well,

905
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:54,960
how about you start by bringing some of the fun

906
00:47:55,079 --> 00:47:59,599
back and not just plastering Dan Hausen's face on. Everything's

907
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:00,800
gotta be more fun than that.

908
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: In w w E, stephen A. Smith was saying that

909
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:15,840
no s like steven A. Smith being like, wrestling's not fun.

910
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,599
I'm just not having fun with it. It's like stephen A,

911
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,000
you're not having fun with anything. You have like a

912
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:27,199
hundred million dollars and you're fucking miserable. Like every time

913
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,920
I see the guy, he's miserable.

914
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to see most of it,

915
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,719
but yeah, he was on there talking about Nick Conn

916
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,159
is a good boss, the best boss ever. That's just

917
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,639
boss that somebody could ever work for. And I'm like,

918
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,719
all right, so this is what he says, right, and

919
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,599
this is the readoff. It's hard to put down because

920
00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:46,880
I love it. I love being around those kids. I

921
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,400
love collaborating with them and helping them and sort of

922
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,519
riffing ideas with them. It keeps you young and it's

923
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:57,000
the greatest part of my job. I've never been around

924
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,480
a better businessman. Regarding to Nick Conn, what is incredible

925
00:49:01,559 --> 00:49:04,800
out of him is not only his mind for the

926
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,519
business for you know, rights, fees and ratings and analyzing

927
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:12,519
all those things, but he grew up a fan of this.

928
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,039
He grew up a fan of the boxing and combat sports,

929
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:21,679
but especially of pro wrestling. He's as deep a knowledge

930
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:27,039
as anybody I've met out there, and he's just straight forward.

931
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:30,239
What you see is what you get. And man, I

932
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,760
love working with him every day. So to me, he

933
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,920
and I together it's like this perfect partnership of being

934
00:49:40,039 --> 00:49:44,440
able to do the business side, but this energy that

935
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:49,840
we both feel and have and love for this business

936
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:54,880
like nothing else. If there's anybody that's gifted at helping

937
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,239
people find out there why it is Nick Khan. It

938
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,400
is a Nick con which is why the WWE is

939
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:11,480
in tremendous hands. Make no mistake about it.

940
00:50:12,199 --> 00:50:17,679
Speaker 2: I gotta wipe my chin, give me a break, by

941
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:22,679
the way, I the private equity fucking pro wrestling shit

942
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,840
where it's just like no one loves this more than him.

943
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,880
It's like, yeah, I'm sure the paying yourself fucking sixty

944
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,559
million dollars a year also too, that doesn't that might

945
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:35,599
make you like it a little bit more too, But

946
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,440
I'm just guessing you know where that's that's a possibility. Yeah,

947
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:45,360
he's he's just saying whatever he's got to at this point.

948
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,440
And also the hilarity of him saying, this is the

949
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,360
best businessman I've ever been around. As if like you

950
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,400
can almost just hear Vince make like a fucking gollumn

951
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,880
noise from one thousand miles away from a penthouse in Connecticut.

952
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: It's difficult for you to even get me to believe

953
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,599
that they're in control anymore. I'm sorry when TKO is

954
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:09,800
openly embarrassing WWE, the company as a whole and saying

955
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,960
we're in control of all the creative shit. Everything that

956
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,519
goes on is pretty much our ideas or our hand fashions,

957
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:18,920
all of your wrestling, and these guys, you know, Triple

958
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:20,719
H and Nick kind of going, oh, yeah, we've got

959
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,760
great control of the business. No, you don't, now when

960
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,880
the parent company is calling you the bastard step children

961
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,920
of their wallets like.

962
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,119
Speaker 2: It's right, when when they're literally using us and at

963
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,159
M to fund their fucking yeah little little rallies. You

964
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:36,719
know what I mean?

965
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: It feels less like WWE than it ever did before ever.

966
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:45,840
I mean, I guess maybe because it was always in

967
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,519
control of Vince, but I mean, some of the worst storylines,

968
00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:53,159
worst years that we've had in wrestling, nothing even comes

969
00:51:53,159 --> 00:51:58,079
close the way everything feels now. Everything is so exploitative,

970
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,079
everything is just it's only here for the pops. It's

971
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:05,440
almost as if WWE is in on the joke that

972
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,039
the fans have been in on for years, but now

973
00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:11,360
the joke isn't any any more fun because they're just

974
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,480
using it to make money off of it, like there's.

975
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: Just one Yeah, It's just it's funny to me because

976
00:52:18,039 --> 00:52:22,639
TKO and UFC and Power Slap and I don't know,

977
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:26,119
the Amazing Jousting League or whatever the fuck. They're also

978
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,440
just feeding off of WWE from and it's honestly making

979
00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:34,480
me think of like Demi Moore in the substance, you know,

980
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:38,559
where it's just like, you know what, let's just take

981
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:42,599
more WWE's money and just put it into UFC.

982
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: Dude, I'd rather go back to COVID Wrestling. AJ Daniels

983
00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:49,559
is like worse than twenty nineteen, Dude, worse than twenty twenty.

984
00:52:50,119 --> 00:52:53,519
Give me back the fake fans behind fucking monitors. That

985
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:55,559
was more intriguing than the shit that I see on

986
00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:56,239
TV today.

987
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the main driving factor in that too is

988
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,519
when you're going, like, oh, I you know, I miss

989
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:10,840
when it was because there was at least a level,

990
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,960
like you said, of earnesty to it where now at

991
00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:16,440
this point you're right, it's like everyone's just in on

992
00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:20,280
this joke where they're like, fuck whatever whatever. Like I

993
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:23,840
you don't want the people that are running the company

994
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,920
to openly fucking tell you that they're not particularly interested

995
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:33,760
and everything that they're putting out into the world for you.

996
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,400
I mean, it is amusing to me still I guess

997
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,159
going back and talking about TNA earlier where they had

998
00:53:41,159 --> 00:53:43,599
the opportunity to and I'm not saying TNA or some

999
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,280
like business fucking geniuses, clearly not. Uh, but the second

1000
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,000
that they had the opportunity apparently to hire a road dog,

1001
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:54,079
they were like, yeah, everyone, get the fuck out. They

1002
00:53:54,199 --> 00:53:58,079
literally can't. They're like, Tommy Dreamer sands all the bullshit

1003
00:53:58,119 --> 00:53:59,960
you just had go on this week. You've been here

1004
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:01,880
for like eight years, to get the fuck out. Leave

1005
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:07,880
by uh, Sammy Callahan, Uh, I don't know, squish yourself

1006
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,039
through the doorframe. Fucking leave. Because he he fully believed,

1007
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:14,559
like I saw the things where like he thought that

1008
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:17,480
he was going to become the booker for TNA. I

1009
00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:20,840
buy that because I remember going back a decade he

1010
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,760
was one of the few people that was like, I

1011
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,760
want to run my own indie and I want to

1012
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,320
do my shit, like he always seemed to kind of

1013
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:33,239
like be halfway in almost even on a WWEE career anyways,

1014
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,280
probably because he's got that got that lazy gena. I mean,

1015
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,719
his health. It's almost like what's it No, No, But

1016
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:40,639
it's I love.

1017
00:54:40,519 --> 00:54:43,199
Speaker 1: That you're equating, you know, one of the most important

1018
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:45,960
positions to get a wrestling show off the ground with

1019
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:46,719
the lazy guy.

1020
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: But he's fucking but it's just you can almost smell

1021
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,920
it from him, like like he's like he'd rather be

1022
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,320
playing video games and fantasy book. Yeah, that's probably you know,

1023
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,119
like that's part of why. Like it's like he went

1024
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:02,360
down to n XT and he was like missed the

1025
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:05,920
Devil's crow Boy and he was there for three months.

1026
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,679
They probably asked him to work out too much and

1027
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,960
he was like, no, I want to go play World

1028
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,599
of Warcraft or whatever. These fucking chuds are playing from

1029
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:17,480
Ohio Fort. And he was like, yeah, you were Minecraft.

1030
00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:22,400
Maybe they're big Minecraft players, and no, what was what

1031
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:27,800
was popular at the time. Let me try to think, oh, opiates, Yes, yes,

1032
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:30,800
well they're still kind of popular, but different flavors.

1033
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: They'll never know the style. Really, you can wear.

1034
00:55:33,039 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 2: Them the classics, you know what I mean. Yeah, he

1035
00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:40,840
didn't want to fucking he didn't want to put all

1036
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,079
the work in. It's like Keith Lee, like just some

1037
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,639
people you see them where they're like they're willing to

1038
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,440
be eighty percent of what they're supposed to be doing.

1039
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: That's not fair. Keith Lee has been afflicted for years now.

1040
00:55:53,199 --> 00:55:55,239
He's still battling COVID. Can we.

1041
00:56:00,679 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: Listen, man, When COVID was going on and people were

1042
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,840
overly minimizing it, you know that I was sitting there

1043
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,440
and I'm like, let's fucking relax. Like people are just

1044
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,760
like I understand that there were a lot of people

1045
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,239
that in their minds they wanted to minimize it completely

1046
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,159
because they were like kind of scared and freaked out.

1047
00:56:18,199 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: Well, you mean the gym the gym bros that had

1048
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,920
to have their gym open in the middle of fucking

1049
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,280
COVID and sweat on each other a problem.

1050
00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: Maybe I need to rip deadlifts, dude.

1051
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: Everybody that goes to my gym is clean. Bro. We

1052
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:35,320
cough on each other for fun, to keep our to

1053
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,880
keep our desk us road, our our levels up. Jesus Christ, listen.

1054
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: If I'm not Jack sweating around other men and breathing,

1055
00:56:42,519 --> 00:56:45,760
they say emarism. That makes me gay, So I have

1056
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,760
to go. I have to do that in the middle

1057
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,440
of a.

1058
00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: Going to enough gyms during COVID. Oh yeah, always.

1059
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: Builds his immunes. Yeah, he builds his immunes.

1060
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,559
Speaker 1: Like chicken boxes and what just hangs out with his

1061
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:02,800
hot wife all day. Poor guy, poor guy.

1062
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 2: Well he's just like I said, there's just some people

1063
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,719
you can tell where they're like eighty percent of the

1064
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,000
way into it, where when Bush comes to shove, like, yeah,

1065
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:17,039
they would rather be home fucking playing video games and

1066
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:20,519
low and behold there it is. But yeah, with you

1067
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,599
with Keith Lee, like I said, I don't minimize it.

1068
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:25,880
I know there's people that definitely got fucked up from COVID,

1069
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,679
that had long term issues from it and whatnot. But

1070
00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:34,000
when it's like six years later and he's like, man,

1071
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:37,519
I just can't I just can't get in shape, but

1072
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:40,880
I can't fuck it overcome these injuries. It's like since

1073
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,519
COVID has happened, they've put out what a half a

1074
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:50,039
dozen GLP ones that help people lose weight, and like

1075
00:57:50,679 --> 00:57:54,639
you could, you could make some tangible lifestyle changes to

1076
00:57:54,639 --> 00:57:57,960
earn that fucking quarter million dollar contract I'm sure you

1077
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:01,519
got from Tony Kahan, but you don't want to. You'd

1078
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:05,320
rather fucking sit at home and play fucking I don't

1079
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:10,599
know ed whatever MLB or fucking man, I don't fucking

1080
00:58:10,639 --> 00:58:12,199
know what these doors are. Play in some Lord of

1081
00:58:12,199 --> 00:58:15,199
the Ring shit. I don't care, but that's it. It's

1082
00:58:15,239 --> 00:58:18,079
like you're not all the way in. But that was

1083
00:58:18,159 --> 00:58:21,960
what TNA did. Like the message was right, yes, oh

1084
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,679
we can get road Dog, get the fuck out, bye bye.

1085
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,960
They'd rather have paid him, which, once again not saying

1086
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,920
they're brilliant, but maybe they know something we don't know

1087
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,800
in this moment, they're like, yeah, road Dog might have

1088
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,599
been the driving force with him in Triple H. Behind

1089
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:41,920
the time that we were talking about a few years ago,

1090
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,039
we were like, remember when this shit made sense for

1091
00:58:44,119 --> 00:58:44,719
five minutes.

1092
00:58:45,239 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it was just pieces of the puzzle, that's

1093
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,760
what it is. And I still kind of stand behind

1094
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,400
that idea too, is that even if something seems like

1095
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,280
it's not working, if the whole show is working, then

1096
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,800
you don't fucking start taking a part other pieces just

1097
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,400
for the sheer sake of doing it right. If wwe

1098
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,320
had figured out that formula, and you're right, when Triple

1099
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:09,800
H first took control after Vince McMahon had taken his leave,

1100
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,199
at least the first time and technically the second time too,

1101
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,960
there was a point where it was arguable but a

1102
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,119
lot of fans and I guess the talent too, felt

1103
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:21,440
like the shows were going in a real creative direction.

1104
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,480
They were a lot more fun, They were a lot

1105
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:26,719
more relaxed, They weren't as corny. Talents were able to

1106
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,920
showcase themselves a lot better, even though there was still

1107
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,840
the marketing element, which hasn't changed. If anything, it's gotten

1108
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,760
much worse. But WWE for a while there had a

1109
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,400
grace period of what what would you say about a

1110
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,239
year and a half, two years, whereas where it felt like, Wow,

1111
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,920
we've really turned the corner. Maybe Vince McMahon was the

1112
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,280
problem the whole time. Maybe Vince was completely out of

1113
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,840
touch and that's the problem. Do you know how many

1114
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,760
articles are popping up left and right on random sites

1115
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,840
now of oh ww would be so much better if

1116
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:02,199
Vince McMahon was in control. W would return to its greatness.

1117
01:00:02,239 --> 01:00:06,400
If Vince McMahon was back in control. No, it wouldn't.

1118
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,000
Vince McMahon is even more out of touch now than

1119
01:00:10,039 --> 01:00:14,159
ever before, because at least when Vince McMahon was still

1120
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:17,599
in the company, regardless of how ancient he was, he

1121
01:00:17,719 --> 01:00:21,480
was surrounded by people that could affect his decisions. He

1122
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:25,159
was listening to people that had at least good ideas

1123
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:28,639
that he used his own judgment to weigh in and

1124
01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:31,079
weigh out whether it was good or not. He's been

1125
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:35,360
away from these kind of counselors for a while, now,

1126
01:00:35,719 --> 01:00:38,199
What the fuck would Vince McMahon come back to the

1127
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,239
voices in his head? Oh, that's gonna be a fun

1128
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,760
fucking show. You want to worry about Tommy Dreamer spanking

1129
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,199
some indie girl on the ass and a fucking in

1130
01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:49,480
front of fifteen people in a hot dog. What do

1131
01:00:49,519 --> 01:00:51,760
you think Vince mcmahnon was gonna do after he got

1132
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,920
done getting caught shitting on girls heads?

1133
01:00:54,639 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: A guy who's probably progressively going into dementia himself.

1134
01:00:59,079 --> 01:01:02,119
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like, it's not gonna get better. And

1135
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,480
and Triple H and Nick Con and I don't even

1136
01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:08,719
fault them, You know what it is. They're the frogs

1137
01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:11,599
in the pot. Joe Triple H is the frog in

1138
01:01:11,639 --> 01:01:16,400
the pot. He is just waving and kissing babies until

1139
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,360
it's his time to retire, until he collects his four

1140
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,199
oh one k and gets the fuck out of there.

1141
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,639
Nick Khn, I don't know. Nick Con still strikes me

1142
01:01:25,679 --> 01:01:29,079
as a guy who has things to do, like he

1143
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:34,199
strikes me as there are there are directions that he

1144
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,480
wants to take WWE financially and squeeze more blood out

1145
01:01:38,519 --> 01:01:42,440
of this stone. He strikes me as a completionist, and

1146
01:01:42,519 --> 01:01:46,559
he hasn't completed WWE yet. TKO. I think we were

1147
01:01:46,599 --> 01:01:49,239
all in an agreement that tk OO is just here

1148
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:54,159
to take whatever profit they can possibly get from WWE

1149
01:01:54,679 --> 01:01:56,960
until they don't think it's worth the squeeze, until they

1150
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,519
don't think it's worth the trouble, and then just toss

1151
01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:02,800
it off to whoever I'll buy it after that, Right,

1152
01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:06,119
So that's where you're at. Triple H doesn't care because

1153
01:02:06,119 --> 01:02:08,800
he doesn't have to anymore. And I believe him, I

1154
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,360
really do. I believe the guy when he says I

1155
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,000
love the kids, you know, I like going out here

1156
01:02:14,039 --> 01:02:16,440
and talking with them and giving them advice. And I'm

1157
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,119
sure he does. I'm sure there's absolutely a part of

1158
01:02:19,159 --> 01:02:22,519
him that genuinely believes that, and that might even be

1159
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:24,400
one of the things that he strongly holds on to.

1160
01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:28,719
The Triple H isn't looking to further his career. Triple

1161
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,679
H doesn't have the vision pun intended of where to

1162
01:02:33,719 --> 01:02:37,000
take WWE in the future. That's why they've stuck us

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01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,639
with Roman and Seth for the last five years.

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01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the five is generous, and I mean.

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01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:47,199
Speaker 1: Code Road sits on the back burner doing almost absolutely nothing.

1166
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:52,400
It's like everybody's just treading water since TKO got there.

1167
01:02:52,639 --> 01:02:55,599
Who is really being built up big? I know, I

1168
01:02:55,639 --> 01:02:57,679
know Triple H was in that interview with Steven and

1169
01:02:57,679 --> 01:03:00,719
he was talking about oba Oba's to be as big

1170
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,719
as anybody else in WWE?

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01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 8: Is he?

1172
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,119
Speaker 1: Because I don't know about that, and I mean and

1173
01:03:06,159 --> 01:03:08,840
I don't. That's not a shot on Oba Femi. That's

1174
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,840
not even a shot on Triple H. It's a shot

1175
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,840
on how the company handles people. What faith? What faith

1176
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,920
has WWE given anybody to believe that oba Femi is

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01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,920
going to be the next to Roman Reigns or Seth Rollins?

1178
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,199
What what reason do we have to believe that the

1179
01:03:25,239 --> 01:03:28,800
company is going to make this guy bigger or worth

1180
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,880
more than those guys? Nothing?

1181
01:03:32,039 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's the belief that you know the WWE

1182
01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:43,920
when they get their mind set on somebody, that's what it's.

1183
01:03:44,519 --> 01:03:46,519
There's I think there's fans that are trying to will

1184
01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:50,840
that into existence too. Forget it's gonna be gunther Joe.

1185
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,079
He is going to be fucking gun the people that

1186
01:03:54,239 --> 01:03:58,920
have this high hopes for Oba. You need to realize Gun,

1187
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,079
there was the baddest man on the fucking show. They

1188
01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:07,280
gave him titles, they gave him time, they made him

1189
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,320
a monster in every fucking way. They had him kill

1190
01:04:11,559 --> 01:04:16,559
John Cena. He was retiring motherfuckers left and right, and

1191
01:04:16,599 --> 01:04:21,119
now he can barely barely be bothered. He's a three

1192
01:04:21,199 --> 01:04:25,559
way in a sub main event. It's just this should

1193
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:28,440
be the guy who's running the show. He should be

1194
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,800
the big bad that everybody's trying to stop. But they

1195
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,519
can't get over Roman, they can't get over Set. They

1196
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:36,960
have these small ideas. And yes, I agree with you,

1197
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,119
goof WWE's lack of building new stars was a problem

1198
01:04:40,159 --> 01:04:43,639
before Vince sold to Endeavor, Yes, But when Triple H

1199
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,119
got it. For that two years, there was new life

1200
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,719
being breathed into the company. There was potential happening with

1201
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,840
people that nobody expected before. There were doors opening, or

1202
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,159
at least willing to be opened by talents and by

1203
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:02,320
the company. That's why people fell in love with the

1204
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,119
Triple H rain In the beginning, there was a chance,

1205
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,679
there was a chance that somebody was going to fucking

1206
01:05:08,239 --> 01:05:11,599
listen to the fans and listen to the talents, and

1207
01:05:11,639 --> 01:05:16,119
then t KO took absolute control, absolutely, And this is

1208
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:21,920
where we're at Ai fucking wrestling and in the past decade,

1209
01:05:22,599 --> 01:05:26,719
and nobody could say that the audience has not given

1210
01:05:27,239 --> 01:05:31,519
Triple H a chance and I let him cool, could

1211
01:05:31,519 --> 01:05:33,639
give him time or whatever the fuck. No one could

1212
01:05:33,639 --> 01:05:38,639
say he's had two big Bello of the ball ballerina

1213
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,440
moments in the past decade. Right, he had the NXT

1214
01:05:42,679 --> 01:05:45,360
Black and Gold era. Sure, well, like I said, he

1215
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,480
got to stand in the ring and do his ballerina

1216
01:05:47,559 --> 01:05:51,079
twirl with the camera following him as the smarts cheer him,

1217
01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:55,239
and he goes, look, they finally like me. They love it.

1218
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: I did like him when he brought Poppy in for

1219
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:01,360
Yo Skuy. So just for all my two cents.

1220
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,719
Speaker 2: Well that was it was. He had that moment down

1221
01:06:04,719 --> 01:06:08,760
there at NXT where he was doing the thing that

1222
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:14,920
the audience that always despised him, like, hey, we're acknowledging

1223
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:19,159
that you people exist and we think that your opinions matter,

1224
01:06:19,639 --> 01:06:22,239
and we think there's value to some of the people

1225
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,199
that you guys put on a pedestal. And they rolled

1226
01:06:25,239 --> 01:06:28,960
with it for that period of time and Lo and behold,

1227
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,320
most of them failed miserably, but that's its own thing, right,

1228
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,639
And then the start of the Triple Hr after Vince

1229
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,840
McMahon went away and he was the main roster, fucking

1230
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,599
he was booking all the shit there, and people were going,

1231
01:06:43,679 --> 01:06:47,119
oh my god, there's a real change here, which to me,

1232
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,719
I think about if we were to break up the

1233
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,280
amount of different times we've done this show for the

1234
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:59,119
portions of whatever that was a good year and a

1235
01:06:59,159 --> 01:07:01,960
half or two, is where the people that we would say,

1236
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:06,440
you guys never say anything nice about anybody or anything.

1237
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,840
It's like I could just point you directly at those

1238
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,159
shows and just be like we were fucking saying how

1239
01:07:13,199 --> 01:07:14,679
good everything was at that point.

1240
01:07:14,679 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: For the most part, I remember being excited to come

1241
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:22,199
on the show and talk about fucking Rawary Week and yeah, shit,

1242
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:23,400
matter of fact, we.

1243
01:07:23,239 --> 01:07:30,199
Speaker 2: Were talking about SmackDown too. I mean, it feels crazy,

1244
01:07:30,639 --> 01:07:33,440
It feels like that that might as well have been

1245
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:38,039
a decade ago, but it was. It was really relatively soon.

1246
01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:41,360
But yeah, like I think to myself, the people that

1247
01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:44,679
might have just listened to why is it it's like

1248
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,119
because it's not good, not.

1249
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,239
Speaker 1: Pretending it is. That's the problem too, is that these

1250
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,159
people are pretending it is good. Oh, you guys are

1251
01:07:55,280 --> 01:08:00,159
just mean to Seth signed Seth Richards, Yeah, like I

1252
01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:05,199
got it. You know, you guys are just mean. Roman Dude,

1253
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,840
re read this because this was absolute fucking And I

1254
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,880
know it's Paul Haman, but he's got to stop. I

1255
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,520
don't know who he's doing this for. I don't know

1256
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,680
if Paul Haman is just trolling everybody at this point.

1257
01:08:22,399 --> 01:08:26,399
But he goes on, well was he Chris Chris van

1258
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:33,039
Fish And he started talking about what inspired Roman Reigns

1259
01:08:33,039 --> 01:08:37,840
to be Roman no Boy, And he's talking about where

1260
01:08:38,039 --> 01:08:40,439
Roman Reigns has ended up now at this point of

1261
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:48,079
his career. And he says, Apocalypse Now, Marlon Brando's portrayal

1262
01:08:48,199 --> 01:08:54,119
of Kurts. If you watch Apocalypse Now, it's Francis Ford

1263
01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:58,279
Coppola's great epic masterpiece. And it's about a warrior Kurtz

1264
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:04,159
or a wrestler Roman Reigns, who is a warrior of

1265
01:09:04,359 --> 01:09:09,800
such magnificence that he takes over an entire island. Well,

1266
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:13,359
it's not the island of Samoa, but it can be

1267
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,800
the island of relevancy in that he takes over the

1268
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:23,119
entire island. The horror, Paul, what the fuck are you saying?

1269
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,000
Everyone on that island. Let's say that there's members of

1270
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:31,800
the bloodline, and then the wise man and at some

1271
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:36,680
point Sammy's aim. But all these constituents, these constituents on

1272
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,199
the island look to this general. Well, let's not call

1273
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:42,920
him a general. Let's call him the tribal chief for

1274
01:09:43,079 --> 01:09:47,920
food and shelter and security, sustainability and life what. And

1275
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,560
they all rely on this general, this tribal chief, for that,

1276
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,600
and may all worship him. But let's not use the

1277
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,680
word worship. Let's use the word acknowledge. So they all

1278
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,640
acknowledge their tribal chief for the many things that he

1279
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:04,159
brings is life, security, food and shelter. So who shows

1280
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:08,359
up to gun down Roman reigns because I'm waiting for that?

1281
01:10:09,039 --> 01:10:12,880
Is it L? Knight? Because I think L. A. Knight

1282
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,239
is coming on a pontoon, but with a fucking ar

1283
01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:16,119
and a six pack?

1284
01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 2: Okay, right?

1285
01:10:19,079 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 1: And at some point, it's not just the responsibility and

1286
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,079
the obligation and the accountability, it's the burden. It's the

1287
01:10:25,079 --> 01:10:28,399
burden that every consituent on that island feels and relies

1288
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,720
on the general relies in the tribal chief for food, sheltered, security, safety,

1289
01:10:32,039 --> 01:10:38,720
and that burden. So the burden, who are you doing

1290
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,920
this for? Paul? And it goes on, he keeps going on.

1291
01:10:43,039 --> 01:10:45,479
It's like, who are you trying to get? Are you

1292
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,439
just trying to piss off Chris? That's got to be

1293
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:49,600
what it is, right.

1294
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, Roman hears all of this and

1295
01:10:54,119 --> 01:10:57,279
looks up from his Chipotle fucking rice and chicken bowl

1296
01:10:57,319 --> 01:11:03,680
and goes, oh, dudo, Yeah that's all that. Yeah, yeah,

1297
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:04,960
that's definitely what I'm doing.

1298
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: I love but this is so bad. And you know

1299
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,000
what the weird thing is too, is Paul Hayman could

1300
01:11:11,039 --> 01:11:12,960
do so much more with a guy like Rowan Rains.

1301
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,840
There is no way you can tell me that this

1302
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,239
guy is handcuffed when it comes to Rowan Rains, because

1303
01:11:18,279 --> 01:11:20,880
you know what, at this point, what does Rowan Rains

1304
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:25,520
have to offer other than losing? He has nothing to offer.

1305
01:11:26,079 --> 01:11:28,399
The only thing he has left at this point is

1306
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,600
to lose, right, right.

1307
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,520
Speaker 2: When you've already won every single fucking thing you can,

1308
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,399
You're right. The only thing that has left after that

1309
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,800
is for you to start making some kings on your own,

1310
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,640
to start putting some people over, to start going to

1311
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,000
have your moment where you're fucking passing the torch, as

1312
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,880
they say, and that just seemingly isn't gonna happen. Also,

1313
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,399
by the way, like when I hear him talk about

1314
01:11:57,399 --> 01:11:59,319
this type of shit and put this sort of like

1315
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:05,239
in blind fucking just love and admiration, it makes me

1316
01:12:05,359 --> 01:12:07,520
want to be like I want to see what he

1317
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,600
writes to his wife and her fucking anniversary card, you

1318
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,600
know what I mean, Like.

1319
01:12:12,359 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: I thank you, Sweeten for supporting me and jiggling my balls.

1320
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,039
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Thanks you, babe. And then that's it, Like

1321
01:12:20,079 --> 01:12:21,800
and then he puts in a twenty dollars gift card.

1322
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:28,319
What what?

1323
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:28,560
Speaker 8: What?

1324
01:12:29,039 --> 01:12:31,399
Speaker 1: What do you? How much do you want to bet

1325
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,520
that he probably has an assistant that comes up with

1326
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,960
his fucking anniversary cards for him I know, right, And

1327
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,399
he's gonna be one of those guys. Like I know

1328
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,359
most people don't understand this, but when when people become rich,

1329
01:12:44,359 --> 01:12:47,720
when guys become rich, they have secretaries to do all

1330
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,319
that ship for them.

1331
01:12:49,359 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because you'd hate you'd hate to put any

1332
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,600
sort of emotional investment into anything in your life at

1333
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:55,960
that point.

1334
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:56,239
Speaker 6: What.

1335
01:12:57,359 --> 01:13:01,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I paid enough money to not be emotionally attached.

1336
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:05,960
Eddy one, what get your forearm off my ass, Tobby,

1337
01:13:06,319 --> 01:13:13,479
I don't wanna. It's not my fore arm. He sounds

1338
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,000
like the kid, the kid from Malcolm in the Middle

1339
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:31,119
of Stevie. Yeah, I'm trying the Yeah, the the innovator

1340
01:13:31,159 --> 01:13:34,359
of fry Rylin. I don't know.

1341
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: We got we have Frank and Gust tomorrow, everybody, we

1342
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,760
will be back to do Frank and Gus. We got

1343
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,880
Saturday at noon or at one o'clock. Right one o'clock

1344
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,079
it starts, so probably the pre show starts at what eleven?

1345
01:13:47,039 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 2: Yes, brunch, fucking WWE presents eat a fucking bacon, egg

1346
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,960
and cheese.

1347
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 1: Earlier though, what two o'clock. I'm thinking that'd be nice,

1348
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,279
wouldn't it. Oh, well, meet me two o'clock. Well, no,

1349
01:14:00,399 --> 01:14:01,399
maybe me three o'clock.

1350
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it'll be I think it'll

1351
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,319
be done by like four for me over here. You

1352
01:14:06,359 --> 01:14:08,960
know what, Maybe that's what I'll do is I'll I'll

1353
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,840
wake up, I'll make a pot of coffee, I'll make

1354
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:16,119
some flapjacks, you know, I'll make some pancakes, and then

1355
01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:18,439
I'll just sit. I'll sit in front of the TV

1356
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,880
and I'll say, feed me my slock t k O.

1357
01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: I'll just go over YouTube clips of Steve bent Over

1358
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:39,359
going that's my forearm. Steve Roman Rains is our generations,

1359
01:14:40,399 --> 01:14:41,279
Colonel Kurtz.

1360
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 8: He's like the Rocket, so cold and bruno all and

1361
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:56,439
what he's just he's the best.

1362
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,239
Speaker 1: All right, much love everyone might of here see you pis.

1363
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,920
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1364
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:10,159
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