Speaker 1: Wrestling too for a mature audience.
Speaker 2: I don't develop her.
Speaker 3: Population and that relationship lines.
Speaker 4: In this case, I could true by everything in bens
Welt told true about nothing basically except for her name,
Bean Bency Welch, and she had two children that were
adults now by the name of Deborah, and I can't
think of the other the boy's name. His name speaks
to me, but ironically he got Sereuper Palsey like me.
It just didn't affect him quite as much as it
did me. But his name for the purpose of the
story doesn't matter. But for the record, I have none
against him, nothing against Deborrah, nothing against any member of
the Welsh family, including Betsy's husband, William Welch. That she
called Chad this whole time she said she was getting
in the divorce from Chad, and there was no Chad.
William wels turn out to be William Welton, not Chad Welch.
The only way I was able to find out about
it is because when her story started to collapse, when
she didn't drive to see me, or didn't drive to
as she put it, flucked my brains out. I got
a subscription to Ben b E in benverified dot com,
which now has grown to do many other other things.
But at the time it was only for background checks
and phone numbers and addresses and stuff like that. Now
it's with ve hipples and ancestry and various other things
besides everything I just told you a background jack and adresses'sonner.
Speaker 5: Was all that.
Speaker 4: And I only spent one dollar to find out that
Betsy Welch was married to a William Welch and not
Chad Welch.
Speaker 3: And then somehow I met and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Now it's with v Hipples and ancestry, and I got
a subscription to being. The only way I was able
to find out about it is because when her story,
think of the other who's gonna run into any woman
or any type of relationship where at least half of
the population and that relationship lies well in this case,
I puld true a boy everything, and Betsy Welsh gold
true about nothing basically except for her name them Betsy Welsch,
and she had two children that were adults now by
the name of Debra, and I can't think of the other.
The boy's name, his name mistakes me, but ironically he
gets Ruper Palsey like me. It just didn't affect him
quite as much as it did me. But his name
for the purpose of the story doesn't matter. But for
the record, I have none against him, nothing against Debra.
I have nothing against any member of the Welsh family,
including Betsy's husband, William Welch. That she called Chad this
whole time she said she was getting in the door
from Chad, and there was no Chad. William Welch turned
out to be William Welch in not Chad Welch. The
only way I was able to find out about it
is because when her story started to collapse, when she
didn't drive to see me, or didn't drive to as
she put it, flucked my brains out. I got a
subscription to bend in benverified dot com, which now has
grown to do many other other things, but at the
time it was only for background checks and phone numbers
and addresses and stuff like that. Now it's vehicles and
ancestry and various other things besides everything that I just
told you. A backround check, addresses, if numbers, all that,
and I only spent one dollar to find out that
Betsy Welch was married to a William Welch and not
Chad Welch, and then somehow I met Betsy's sister Brenda,
who doesn't speak to me anymore because I put videos
on this channel which I have since taken down, complaining
about Betsy Welch and the rest of the Wells family. See,
even though I don't have anything against William Welch, William
Welch is the only one that could stop Betsy from
being a pathological liar. Because William William Welch had a
good job as a minor working underground in the mines
in Alabama and other places and made good money, allowed
Betsy Welsh to sit at home and never work a
day in her life, while myself and many others, both
with and without disabilities, worked more in one week, even
tho i've been more than one week, more than one week,
even though not working now as a June of two
thousand twenty six, we've done more in one week than
Betsy wels has ever done entire life because she's been
leaning on William Welsch's income and not having to work
for a living. That's why she has no consequences her
lives in deceptions and anything else. And William Welch on
the other hand, while he's never done nothing to be personally,
William Welch has never made Betsy Welsch pay for cheating
on him with me or Lane or any of the
other hundreds of men that Betsy Welch has cheated with
in the past, either on the Internet or in person.
Because you can't tell me that Betsy wilk hasn't drove
somewhere in dunk Hoo Dunk, Alabama and fleck some man,
probably for some money, and told him the same story
of the Chad wels thing instead of William Welch. If
you know what I mean, well, I have respect for
Betsy Welch's mother or Iphy James, who I'm not sure
is a live now or not.
Speaker 3: I took down the videos I say.
Speaker 4: I had like three videos up here complaining about the
Betsy Welll situation at that time, and I was hoping
that the Wells's family would rally behind me and do
something about Betsy Welch, because I truly believe that's he
needed to pay for her mistakes. I wasn't going to
try to kill her or put a contract out or
anything like that because I need but prison. But I
thought the Wells family would do something when in fact
all the Westmam media was absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3: I don't hold down on Misty too any member the
Wells family.
Speaker 4: But until you do something or get William Wells, her husband,
to cut Betsey's money off, there's not gonna be any
any complications or consequences, I should say for Betsy's passed
presidental future actions, because I'm sure Bessy hasn't stopped.
Speaker 3: She's just become more undercover about it than she had
in the past.
Speaker 4: So I got very upset at the time I thought
about the big suicide, came close to doing it.
Speaker 3: I almost tried it.
Speaker 4: I even told him I actually tried, even though I didn't,
because I wanted them to understand the seriousness of Betsy's
actions and try to do something to make William Welsh,
who is the only person that could make Betsy pay
by cutting her money off, because that Betsy had to
go get a job. Oh my god, she probably wouldnt
know how to flip a hamburger. And McDonnell's I've sent
saying more current of Betsy's pictures and she's really going downhill,
looks wise, and I'm sure hasn't stopped her bullshit. But anyway,
long store short for this video, she never trained as
the worst fler. She was never a real estate agent.
The only thing that was true about Bessy's life was
her name and her children's name, Deborah, and I can't
think of the other guy's name. I really can't forgive me,
I mean no disrespect. But the only good thing that
came out of that was I met Betsy's doaller Dipper,
who was Debora Bagker at the time.
Speaker 3: She's now married to another guy, but at the time,
strangely enough, I.
Speaker 4: Thought I might have a chance with Depper, But the
reality was even if I had not met Pittsy first,
and I don't think debver would give me a chance
to good to my age. But more importantly than that,
I don't live near phil Campbell, Alabama, And for some reason,
Deborah is gonna dig in her heels and make sure
that her man comes from phil Campbell, Alabama, so she
can stay in phil Campbell, Alabama, just like oars.
Speaker 3: Some people in North Carolina, where I come from, even
thought of.
Speaker 4: In Pittsburgh now that are in smaller towns than Charlotte
stair Onne where I come from, And I like it's
a small time. Know if you're on called Walkingham, North Carolina.
And I've heard women say I've been in rocking him
all my life. I've been in Gason County all my life.
Speaker 3: I'm not leaving.
Speaker 4: So they get in one geographic area and they don't leave,
and they expect their man, whoever that may be, excuse
me to come from that one area. And when it
doesn't work out and they get a divorced, they wonder
why it didn't work out. Well, if you only try
to find me in from one geographic small area in
the first place, you kind of cut your choices down,
regardless of their age or in my case, age and disability.
I can't put in the words how much I love
Debbora back then. I can't put in the words how
much ever saved my life. I can't put in words
how much I still love Debber. But it's one of
those things that I know Deber is never going to
love me, because Deborah is only wanting to love somebody
from phil Campbell, Alabama. And even if I hadn't met
Betsy before, I didn't have many conversations about whether Debver
would get made doing my disability or not. And even
if I hadn't met Betsy, I still want know the
Debber would take me. But that's irrelevant. That's last time
I heard. Deborah got married to somebody in phil Cambell
and they had a couple of kids. So see Debra's
prophecy came true. She found her a man in fil Cambell,
Alabama who gave her a couple of kids. And I
probably should shut up after that. Otherwise I sound like
a jealous person and I don't want to do that.
I love you, Deborah. Folks, that's the story about what
happened to Betsy Welsh, and no, she never was a
pro wrestler. That's gonna do it for me, Rusty, I'm here.
As a matter of fact, Betsy Welch is still nothing.
To the best of my ability. Betsy Welch is in
her sixties and still never work outside the home a
day in her life. One lazy bitch living off of
William Welch's income while lying and calling him Chad Welsh.
That's gonna do with me, Rusty, I my matter else
se nextcat for another addition of wrestling, Rusty in won't
be about Betsy Welsch.
Speaker 3: I have much respect for the rest of the Wells family.
And even though Brenda kid.
Speaker 4: Will of the Wells family got mad at me towards
the end for putting videos up like this, I don't
even have anything against Brenda. The only person I have
anything against in the Wells family past presidental future is
Betsy Welsch. But for the rest of the wels family,
if you see this video, I have nothing that respecting
admiration for you all.
Speaker 2: This is a three x speed by the way, folks,
just so you.
Speaker 4: Know, anybody and get divorced, you deserve it. It's time
you'd be freed from the prison that is Betsy Welsch. Deborrah,
I love you, even though you're by a no man.
Speaker 3: Thank you, folks. That's gonna do with me, Reussy, I'm
not out here.
Speaker 4: We'll see you next time for another addition of wrestling
with rest you right on YouTube and until we get
again in my friends. As the voice of aw Ian Recobunting,
say happy wrestling everybody, and thank you for you past
president you support.
Speaker 3: Thanks everybody, how bye.
Speaker 2: Just so you know, guys, that was found by thank
you to Dan for that that was found because it
carried the hashtags, uh, JD from NY and Sola Monster,
and it was the dude talking about how he'd been
catfished by a lady from Alabama and that, yeah, I
was playing at a three x speed and yeah, yeah,
that's that's that's nice, isn't it when you think about it.
That's for his wrestling channel. So if you tune in
to his wrestling channel, he's going to tell you about
how he was catfished by a woman who told him
that he was or she was trained to be a
wrestler and that he was a promoter. But she was
actively just a liar.
Speaker 1: But what happened. I kind of came in late. I
saw that you and Dan.
Speaker 2: Were playing video or whatever, enjoyed that maybe maybe that's
a frank and gust material video to play again. It
was so I'm assuming Dan was just like trying to
find whatever a video like Jason or No.
Speaker 1: There was no likes on the video or nothing, so
I knew, oh no, no, no, it was hotting off
the presses.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't have hundreds of comments, you know,
because it was a no. I guess it had the
tags for Jason and JD and it was just some
dude with cerebral policy talking about how he was catfished
by a woman in Alabama that told him that she
was a wrestler and a promoter and she stole his
money and shit, and yeah, I mean, I guess it
was kind of it's kind of sad, but it's also
a little absurd at the same point, because this was
like a fifty year old man.
Speaker 1: So I don't know all fifty year old men with
cerebral palsy need love too.
Speaker 2: Joe, Well, yeah, but at some point you got to
think to yourself to offer they just give it up.
You won't even meaner than me. I was gonna say,
I don't know, be a little cautious, maybe keep it local.
You're like, end it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how many makeup wishes are left
for fifty year old cerebral palsy.
Speaker 2: You got wheels, we got high places, fucking peanut butter
and jelly buddy, you.
Speaker 1: We like make a wish with prostitutes, you know, like
they give out coupons depending on how bad your your
affliction is. Cerebral palsy's got at least be thirty percent off, right,
So you'd.
Speaker 2: Think to yourself, it would come with some sort of
group on. Oh no, I was just thinking Thelma and
Louise style. But that's yours is you see, this is
how this is how it goes full circle like a wheel.
You know, you started out mean and then I went
mean or.
Speaker 1: That's just right, right of course.
Speaker 2: It's just that's a circle of life here, you know.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Yeah, no, it's been. It's been a fucking
dumb week for wrestling. Like there's really not much going on,
but the news that is going on is dumb as shit, right,
And I know we talked a little bit yesterday. I'll
still have to edit that and post it. I'm I'm
really upset by myself yesterday. I went back and I
listened to that and I was just an absolute mess.
I was very tired, cranky, me mish was a little cranky.
I just iah. I wasn't good, man, It wasn't good.
It was an hour and fifty minutes of me going
uh huh, yeah yeah whatever.
Speaker 2: Well. I was also as I had the zuomies.
Speaker 1: Street fighter, go fuck yourself, piece of shit. Nobody noticed,
go fuck yourself. I hope you get cerebral palsy. Fucking yeah, yeah,
you know what, I'm going to introduce you. That lady
from Alabama. Yeah, yeah, dude, that promoter. Oh, she's gonna
make him a big stop, big star was cerebral palsy.
We're gonna put you in the ring with Sammy Callahan.
He doesn't have a job right now. Rise, at least
it'd be a fair fight. At this point. If you've
seen Sammy, it's uh, oh my goodness, is he doing bad.
I haven't seen Sammy in a while.
Speaker 2: Honestly, have you physically seen what he looks like now?
Speaker 1: No, honestly, I think the last time I was paying
attention is no. No, I saw him on a couple
of teenage things. But yeah, no, its just been a minute. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks like he cloned himself and ate it
real like.
Speaker 1: Really, yes, yeah, I mean he wasn't exactly a fucking
a goddamn Hollywood starlet to begin with.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean he played the game. You know,
he lost a bunch of weight and when he blew
up on the Indies for a while, that's you know,
that's how he played it. But he put it all
back on and then some man, he looks, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: Good That's that's what happens when you lose that TNA contract. Huh,
that's what that'll get you. The sadness. You feel a deep,
deep sadness within your soul that can only be filled
with Uh. I don't know, Nacho Cheese. I was actually
laughing my ass off of TNA. Right. So TNA is
trying to get up ratings for their their pay per
view coming up, and so what do they do? Do
they do marketing? Do they do heavy pushes of like
commercials on TV or on streaming sites. Do they do
a big social media push like maybe an Ama on
a Reddit or something like that. No, No, Now they
have a Lena Black standing in front of a fucking
a port underneath a goddamn viduct in half a swimsuit,
and that's and that's that's what's supposed to draw people
into TNA.
Speaker 2: Apparently, Well, this is this is one of those versions
of TNA that always has come to pass.
Speaker 1: You know, it goes through smell. Is that you or
the fishes?
Speaker 2: Mmmm? Well that's where that's where all these fired people's
money went, I think, was to pay and to pay
in just one attractive girl to be on the show. Apparently.
But yeah, I mean that's one of those forms of
T and A right where they've now been around so long,
where they go through these different eras where it's like, look,
it's all the ex WWE and WCW guys. Oh fuck that,
We're not going to do that for a while. Look,
we got a bunch of random indie strays that are
outcasts from ROH and shit or middle aged guys. And
then they're like, hey, well also women, look book, we
found some good looking girls that haven't been signed away
by other companies.
Speaker 1: That's ship. You can smell the ratings and literally smell
the ratings on that. Come on, that's what unattractive? It
probably is, yes, unattractive. It's like, you know, hey, ladies,
I want to see you in a beautiful, skin tight
cat suit in front of a leaky nuclear a reactor.
Oh that's just my fetish. What the fuck is that?
Speaker 2: Do you know? What? Do you know what? It's also
kind of weird just looking at that picture and this
is no slight on her that there's.
Speaker 1: Probably been at least three murders within five feet of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just right, yeah, right then, it actually looks
like a place where Conkey's in Florida live.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an ongoing investigation right now.
Speaker 2: Like if you they actually had to ai out all
the police tape. I think in the background was.
Speaker 1: Literally shut up. I hate this, dude. Do you know
it's dude, I can't hear nothing, Dude, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: Every time I call me in here, I don't hear ship.
Bro fuck show has been going on for sixteen years.
How does anybody hear it?
Speaker 2: Fus just figured it out years.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you mean I'm supposed to put the headphones
on my head. Nobody told me.
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out one day that he's that he's deaf,
and he just has gotten more progressively deaf and he
doesn't know it.
Speaker 1: He's waiting for the Braille instructions on the show. I'm deaf,
not blind, you asshole. Yeah, he's just here sitting there.
Just start giving a Morse code in the chat dash dash.
There you go.
Speaker 2: We did a lot of interesting things happen. You know
from our live listeners, people have gotten engaged while listening
to the show. People have been sitting there waiting for
their children to be born. Shout out to jail. It
would be interesting if we were the people that advised
someone that they'd gone deaf, you.
Speaker 1: Know, why not?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, can I get blamed for that one too, I'd
love to take that badge and uh for the STITCHR
Awards In twenty twenty six, Anthony Thomas made somebody deaf.
Speaker 1: It's just.
Speaker 2: And Mark Marin's there. It's crazy, man, my fucking mind.
Bam how uh it's it's not bad. It's a good.
Speaker 5: There's no more children bothering you. Jesus Christ, that's good.
I mean, I'll tell you the lack the lack of
things right. And I was saying this to you the
other day when people, you know, if I retire, I'm
going to be bored.
Speaker 2: Good. Give the free time to me. I'll take it,
all right, thanks, Yeah, that sounds good to me. Oh man,
I just wouldn't know what to do with myself. I'm sorry.
You can't entertain yourself as an adult?
Speaker 1: Horazy? Are you that somebody gives you an infinite amount time?
You're like, I have nothing to do?
Speaker 2: Well? I mean I could spend this time like learning
or you know, enriching myself or learning this new skill,
maybe cooking, or you know, coming up with some No,
I'm just I just can't handle it, man, I need
to be making someone else money. Why, yeah, just to
just stop, you know, Like the last two days, I've
gotten up, I've gone to breakfast. I've eaten breakfast by myself,
which is one It's wonderful. I love it. Like when
I see like little guys at the McDonald's eat.
Speaker 1: You still have the kids in the house. You still
have the kiddies in the room.
Speaker 2: Ba like you Si well the cat the cat's kadie.
Speaker 6: Where are you going?
Speaker 2: Fuck you?
Speaker 1: I gotta go eat.
Speaker 2: You get the breakfast burrito. Your cats don't bother you
about food, mesh. I feed them in the moon.
Speaker 1: Oh my, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I don't get up and just walk right by them.
Speaker 1: And it's like.
Speaker 2: I got like a little nineteen nineteen hundreds fucking popper
hats on, Papa, Can you please crack a can for me?
I got Yeah.
Speaker 1: You you act like cats are like these just poor
little victims. Man. My cats will eat their entire bowl
of food, and then if I grab myself anything, they're
both sitting by my lap. Now now, now.
Speaker 2: I like the Jeff gold blooming of the cat right now,
that's my father.
Speaker 1: Oh food, Yeah, it's filthy, just like that. That is
what my cat looks like. She shows out her cuca
and she just looks at you with her kuka fucking
spread out waiting for a French fry or something. It's
just it's horribly it's horribly adorable. It's absolutely adorable. That's
why I hate her so much, because it's like they
know what they do, and they know.
Speaker 2: They know. I mean, well, you know what, I think
it's a good idea because we as guys, as we age,
we should stick to our cats. Because look what happened
to guys like Tommy Dreamer. Oh wow, get away from
the ladies. Just get yourself a couple of cats. Like
I said, get a breakfast burrito. You don't need none
of this. Get trying to get yourself.
Speaker 1: Tommy Dreamer thing, because something happened to them online on
social media enough where the board news sheets were highlighting it.
I guess some black streamer or something like that called
out Tommy Dreamer and then they deleted their counter some bullshit.
Speaker 2: Well I like the alliteration you had.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no idea, I'm literally going by. I passed
by this news story because I thought it was a
nothing burger and I was like, oh, somebody, somebody said
something mean to Tommy Dreamer on social media.
Speaker 2: But apparently there's some story about, uh, he said something
to an indie kid like I don't know how to
promote a cocky black and you wrestler or something, which
is weird, which is kind of odd. I don't know
what he was going for with that. And then I
guess there was another one too, where some indie girl
said that they did a spot in a match where
he did a fucking spank. He basically did his nineties shit,
that's all. It was like, Tommy Dreamer has done that
same girl getting fucking r you know, she comes into
the ring and tries to hit him with the kendo
stick and he spanks her. He's been doing that fucking
spot for thirty years.
Speaker 1: And now someone's getting offended by it. Is that what
you're saying?
Speaker 2: Apparently, Well, the girl was like I felt like I
couldn't say no to him, because yeah, but this is
one of those things I think, where all right, this
is where community there's a communication breakdown right where yes,
obviously Tommy Dreamer should know in the year of our
Lord twenty twenty six that those types of spots like
Sandman fucking rubbing his pouring beer on tits and rubbing
his face like it's like we're still fucking We're not
doing that shit anymore, dude, that was literally nineteen ninety
six fucking type wrestling spots. But also I get people
in that we can't say no, don't.
Speaker 1: Hire the wrestler from nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. I'm yeah, yeah, that's also a
really good I'm.
Speaker 1: Not victim blaming or nothing, but that is really silly
that you're looking for something innovative and new from a
guy whose best time happened thirty fucking years ago.
Speaker 2: Just what And he certainly is not He's not a
spry fifty something year old guy, you know what I mean. Like,
it's not like you're bringing him in and you know.
Speaker 1: People are going like there's girls that have like resting
bitch face to Tommy has like natural stroke face, Like
I just guess he's he's very tired, Tommy needs a nap.
Speaker 2: So Tommy Dreamer is the type of guy where you
look at him and you reconsider your own reflection in
the mirror when you look at him, because you go,
Tommy Dreamer might look at himself in the mirror and go,
all right, I look older, but you know, all right, yeah,
you know we're like, am I doing the same thing?
Do I want to go? Do I have to gott
to pull out a microscope really or a little fucking
magnifying glass and just look at myself and go, my
Tommy Dreamer in this right now? Because holy fuck?
Speaker 8: But no.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six, the year of our Lord. In
the professional world, I am surprised to even hear people
tell or younger wrestlers tell the story of like you
just do whatever the vets tell you to do or
you're just supposed to do that. I'm like, people are
still training wrestlers like that. I thought by a hooker,
by crook, or like you know, for better or worse,
that they just weren't doing that anymore? Does that he that? Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but do people say that to like relieve accountability.
So in one scenario, right, if you're a young cat
and you're in wrestling and you're coming up and there's
a veteran around, you just do whatever they say, not
necessarily because you know anything better, but because if it
all goes horribly wrong, you have a finger to point
at I.
Speaker 2: Well, it's also supposed to be a yes, you listen
to the VET in that situation, not only just because
they're uh, they should know better than you do in
this situation because their experience, but also you're right if
if the shit goes and it doesn't work out well,
and they fuck up or they do something, no one
can then turn around and look at you and be like,
what the hill's wrong? Would you agree? Horn? And you're like, well,
I was a guy who's been wrestling for twenty years
told me that that's what we're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: I was actually just joking and being a dick. But
sure that works too.
Speaker 2: Oh no, well, I mean.
Speaker 1: That all the reason my career didn't take off was
because William Regal doesn't know how to wrestle, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, wow, well no, but this this is
also one of those moments where and once again to
not like shift blame onto her in the situation, but
absolutely just fucking like any young younger woman in wrestling
right now, just fucking say no to shit, Like just
if you don't want to fucking do it, just absolutely
positively say no to it, because once again, it's not
nineteen ninety six, you know, where it's like, oh, what's
good Tommy Dreamer, they gonna turn around and don't fucking
ruin my career, Like, fucking hell he is.
Speaker 1: Tell me about Tommy Dreamer, then let's let's be honest.
Then is Tommy Dreamer one of those guys that's unapproachable?
Is he one of those people that you know he
inspires or commands fear in people, or is he? Because
I mean, like, right, right, I know I'm saying this
and it's like half joking, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's like he's just he's like a half of.
Speaker 1: Every I mean, he's not like a build a mode
or nothing. Right, He's not going around slugging people in
the air and shit.
Speaker 2: No, he's not even like a fucking Tubby there, Tubby
fucking Dudley, Like he's not. He He's not like some
overly aggressive fucking dude, which is why your girl Mickey
there came to came like basically came to his defense
and was like, what the fuck's going on? This seems
really odd? You know, like she she was kind of
outright like, hey man, I've known this guy for twenty
five years. This doesn't seemingly add up to me, but yeah,
it really, like I said, it goes back to I'm first,
like I said, first and foremost surprised that anybody is
getting trained in a wrestling school environment in this day
and age and being told you just listen to the
vat which, like I said, for better or worse. Sometimes
it's good, sometimes it's not so fucking great. And then secondly,
I'm very, very surprised to hear that this this girl
had the feeling that she couldn't just say no, that's
fucking weird. I don't want to do that. I think
if she has just said that to Tommy Dreamer, it'd
have been like, well, like, what's he gonna say? No,
I must fucking spank your ass, like he's I have
I have an image to protect lady. Yeah, don't you know?
This is my entire gimmick. I'm fairly sure in that
moment if she if she would put her foot down
and been like, yeah, that's a fucking no, I'm just
absolutely not, he'd have been like the Booker at this point,
I'm pretty sure Tommy Dreamer probably has kids or daughters.
This girl's age, right, assuming she's like in her twenties
or whatever, you know, because like Tommy Dreamer is an
older guy. Him and Beulah had kids in like the
early two thousands. Yeah, they gotta be, like I said,
the late teens, twenties. Like I have a feeling that
that was one of those moments where, yeah, it's a
communication thing, and yeah, I know it's like, well, Tommy
Dreamers fucking gonna get raked over the colls to this.
I'm like, man, it's no one's gonna be honest to God.
By the time that Dan clips us and puts us
on YouTube for us, the people probably might have already
moved past it, because that's just how wrestling goes now,
where it's like I can't believe this egregious fucking thing,
and then twenty four hours later they're like ooh squirrel,
like it's it's it will be done incredibly quickly. So yeah,
you're right when you're like, I fucking just perceived this
as nothing burger well.
Speaker 1: Because it was even present, like the dirt sheats did
a horrible job then trying to uh click people in
with the gravity of the situation, it just really sounded
like he was having a beef with somebody online. That
shit happens all the time. Yeah, I didn't know anything
about this perceived sexual assault by Tommy Dreamer.
Speaker 2: Well, once again it goes back to wrestling and life
in general is going to be tougher for anybody that
struggles with communicating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, back to everybody wants to be a victim. Victims
get paid. We used to say that for fucking years,
that's all it is. Now somebody's getting attention to themselves
if they If Tommy Dreamer spanking her ass couldn't bring
attention to her, well now her outing him as this
big sexual de will right.
Speaker 2: So which what's what's weird to me, hm is I
don't even think there's any currency in this type of
attention anymore. And I say that because not like, oh, hey,
you can pardony that into a gig, good for you,
but just because there's so many fucking people and like
you're not skipping the line because somebody looks at you
and goes like, I can't believe Tommy Dreamer touched your
ass and you weren't thrilled about it, or something like
it's just where seemingly past that we are at the
point in wrestling where what's her name? The girl that's
the champion for I always pronounce it wrong. Aw girl?
Is it tech techla?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, necklace.
Speaker 2: She's like the next big thing for AW. And I
have not seen her. Yeah, I haven't seen her wrestle once.
Because she's really good. She good, she's really good. But
there's just so but missed. There's so many people that's
kind of like that's just where it's at. Like it's
like a hey man, here's this girl, Like she's got
a good look and a great attitude. Because like I
literally I'm only acknowledging this because I saw some interview
with her and there were a couple of clips with that.
I was like, yeah, she seems like pretty pretty chill,
like charismatic, charismatic lady. You know, maybe I should see
her wrestle once, you know, Like that's where my brain went.
But there's just so many people, men and women that
are wrestling to where when someone's like, yeah, you you
can use this as like as a launchpad. It's like
a launch pad to what a fucking shitty indie show
in Ohio in front of seventy five people? What is
a what is getting somebody attention at this point other
than just like almost instantaneously being platformed by a bigger company.
Speaker 1: She's trying to be female stone Cold in a lot
of ways.
Speaker 2: She's She'sla Okay, She's or Techler or whatever name is.
She's trying to be female stone Cold. Is that what
you're saying?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she's dropping f bombs, you know, stone
Cold drop f bombs.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was just hoping you weren't talking about the
Assmac girl. I was like, she's trying to bet.
Speaker 1: He put me over his heat.
Speaker 6: What Tommy Dream respects my ass? What I said, Tommy,
Tommy Dream respects my ass? What stone was not feeling?
Tommy Dream respect his ass? What if you don't want.
Speaker 2: Tommy Dreamer, just clap your cheeks, give me a hell no.
Speaker 1: Now you've brought up the visual of Tommy pressing up
deep against the backside of Stone Cold, and that is
a visual, my friends. You don't He's just got.
Speaker 2: An elbow resting in his lower back and he can't move.
He's just.
Speaker 1: You're a little stiff with that forearm there.
Speaker 2: Tommy his knee brace and his george digging into the
mat to.
Speaker 1: He's just like, well, it's not my forearm.
Speaker 2: Leading all my weight. Yeah, it's a fucking clown show. Well,
I guess now I gotta I gotta look at this,
this techla teclo lady.
Speaker 1: I gotta see be something. She's just trying to be
cutting edge right now. She's mouthing off and stuff, and
she's kind of trying to build up a buzz by
being a little uh not not parent friendly, not family friendly,
which is fine. It works, you know, especially for the
a W fan base. They're eating it up. But yeah,
now that she's no, is.
Speaker 2: She better than Tony Storm.
Speaker 1: I never liked Tony Storm though, and I know there
are people that ride or die for Tony Storm. I
just ah, it's you know, dressing up as a monochrome
fucking movie character from the nineteen twenties really didn't just
connect with me. I don't know. I mean, I'm old.
I'm just not that fucking old, you know. And well
she was.
Speaker 2: She was another one, and she's just like bad words.
You're like, yeah, but hers.
Speaker 1: Was the allure of oh look it's a girl from
the nineteen twenties. Wrestling in the twenty twenties isn't that
for wacky. It's just these are all like punchlines, So
Tony Storm was an actual punchline. And then she went
back to being British punk rock chick, aussy punk rock chick,
whatever the fuck it was, putting a little bandaiana, the bandana,
the little band aid, the little fucking what is it,
the seal or Nelly a little Nelly band aid on
her fucking cheek out of here.
Speaker 2: Saint lunatic style. No, she was, Yes, she was a
backwards hack girl for a while. Maybe that's what it
was like, just the part of the reason why that
might have caught fire the way that it did, other
than it being pretty creative in a time where AW
was not very different than now, where I'm sure the
creativity is just flowing throughout that company, but at a
time where not a lot was going on, she went
from being a backwards hat indie girl, you know, to
actually having a gimmick. I guess I'm to.
Speaker 1: Be clarified, small mustache. You're right, dude, I didn't say
she was ugly at all. Please don't misconstrue the way
I felt about her character and her TV shit is
saying that the girl was ugly. She is absolutely dropped
at gorgeous. It's just there's more to being a I mean,
if that was the case in Elena Black would have
at least a million views on TNA to I.
Speaker 2: It's just yeah, well, we've now hit the point where
and me and you have talked about this before, where
it used to be if they could get a sable
type woman to show up and be on WW anymore. Yeah, yeah,
well about this, but Miss's already like the last one, honestly, Joe,
the last one that they had that could pull that
off was Mandy Rose. Yes, yeah, and but Mandy can
actually work to an extent, well.
Speaker 1: Even before Mandy. All right, then if you want to
go with somebody who couldn't work, Eve Eve Torres or
whatever her name was, Yeah, all she did was come
out there, look pretty, almost wrestle and then that was it.
That was her whole giving right, right, right? But Torres?
Who was it? Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: Ship?
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: Whatever, it's all interchangeable.
Speaker 1: Sorry, thanks for correcting me. I appreciate that, not like
there's a million fucking Eves in wrestling, all right, go on, sorry.
Speaker 2: But no, that's that is still, uh, that's dated. I
should say, it's not even a big thing anymore. It's like,
oh my god, you're able to get some like a
bikini model, fucking Fort Lauderdale bar tender girl to be
in a wrestling show. Like that's that is so fucking
like passe at this point where now they've gotten to
this point and I don't know what it is. I mean,
I know it's a series of like little factors and
have to just adds up over time. Culturally, I'm sure
all of the social media influence of this doesn't hurt.
But we've now gotten to this point where everybody becomes
so good at whatever the makeup and the styling and
the hair and shit, because they can just learn it
from the fucking TV where you're seeing even like WNBA
girls or like when they show whatever it is a
college basketball like if you watched any of the marsh
Madness shit, they'll show like pictures of the team and
you're like, all these girls have like modelesque professional makeup done.
Like it's just it's not what it was where you know,
you just had a lot of people where a lot
of women I should say, where they're just kind of
like winging it where they're like, what if I just
mush a bunch of fucking uh the blue eyelighter, you
look like fucking Mimi bowback out there. Now, it's like
everyone has that skill or they just they learn it
earlier on in life and quicker and how to do
it more efficiently. So where like I said, you go,
oh my god, look at this this girl in wrestling
where she has a nice makeup and good hair and
good gear, and you're like, yeah, but that's baseline now, right,
It's like basic shit, like that's not even considered whoa
I oh my god, this girl looks so different professional,
and she's so highly above all these other ones. It's
like takes a lot to stand out, dude, takes a
hell of a lot. And I guess, going back to
Tony likes were like, well, well you stay at these stores,
not go looking pretty much, all go looking now all
the women.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's also who they pick, right, There's there's
like levels to it too, because you say that, but
then you know, there's obviously the contingent that are very
negative against Naya Jacks, and there's people that think that.
Speaker 2: This is pretty she's just a terrible wrestler who wears
horrible fucking clothes.
Speaker 1: You say that like it wasn't just a few short
weeks ago, if that where everybody told us that last
legend was a dude who just got married.
Speaker 2: So yes to Trippindales.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, Like you're talking about, Oh,
it's so easy to get over for being so beautiful.
Here you have a girl who we thought was attractive
and obviously attractive enough to get married, and yeah, it's
just you know, it's just a dude dating another dude
marrying another dude.
Speaker 2: Like it's just well, maybe that's also part of it too.
It's not saying like just being attractive is easier. Well,
I mean it can be easier for you to get over, obviously.
I'm just saying like, it's not the last.
Speaker 1: Time a girl went out there and tried not to
be attractive so young in TNA.
Speaker 2: Like, and the funny thing is a lot of that
time where they would go, oh what.
Speaker 1: Was that girl in a w fuck I forgot her name.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that's who I was thinking of, and absolutely.
Speaker 1: Got attractive because she was still she was still smoky,
got all the zombie baked.
Speaker 2: And even yeah, I remember like then just seeing her, oh.
Speaker 1: Damn, like Valhalla was always attractive. Stop it.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if I remember correctly, she did date
the hottest guy in wrestling ever, mad Man Pondo.
Speaker 1: So with those yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Man Bondo sit there and he just he's looking
at her. It's like she's just facially ten thousand times
more attractive than any woman he's probably ever been in
the Meanwhile, he's like the slow.
Speaker 1: Pigmy when market bring me over those betty rubble feet.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a weird Oh boy, well that was like
when she ended up with with Rowan, which Rowan's not
a bad looking guy either, but you know, just once again,
it's the wrestling world where people just say it's like
won people used to be like Russev's ugly, Like russ
is not an ugly guy. He's just not a supermodel
type whatever. But like I remember, really.
Speaker 1: Well you've seen him before in a suit and ship
that guy cleans up real well, that's why it's like
all gimmick with Rusev, the giant Uni brow and yeah
that's all yeah.
Speaker 2: He's he's ugging up. He has to ug himself up,
like that's what he's that's what he's going for. But no, like, uh, who,
what the fuck? What was her name?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Sarah whatever whatever she became Valhalla.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The people are like, oh, she's with Eric rowan guy.
I'm like, yes, she was a Madman Pondo. Come on,
come on, I think she's doing all right.
Speaker 1: I think any girl owes it to herself to go
out with a man whose nickname is madman. Huh. Yeah,
maybe she thought his name was actually man Madman Pound. Oh,
and she was like, oh that sounds the great time.
Speaker 2: She heard it. She heard at some point in her
life like some some some girls that she worked with,
was just like, listen, the ugliest guy you can find.
They put forth the most effort. She's like, hmm Madoud.
Oh yes, something about that name rings out to me. Oh,
somebody is starting to uh starting to know f with that.
Now that'll be their name, Madman Pound Tho.
Speaker 1: What wrestler would do the Madman poundell on OnlyFans.
Speaker 2: Joe Maybe Nick Gage now is fucking what else? Fucking fuck?
What a fuck from my penis? Fucking fucking shots, fucking intercourse,
fucking fucking shuts. Yeah, and that's just the whole video.
It's just him, just videos. That's his that's his trick
off instruction. He's just got no sh on his further. Damn,
it was fucking uh were Caddis's just like fuck fucking shut.
Speaker 1: Oh man, he's gotta wear one of those fucking uh
those Luca masks too, because I mean, it's not a
it's not an only fans page. If you're not wearing
a Luca Lucha mask as a guy, right.
Speaker 2: Uh your mask person, Well, then you have the masks.
Speaker 1: Mask versus hood, mask versus raincoast.
Speaker 2: I don't know, oh, mask versus hood. Then the yeah,
loser has to get circumcised. That would be Now, that
would be a stipulation, you know what. I mean, how's that?
You know what? Maybe that's you know what, that's the
perfect match for like Russ V. And what's another European.
Speaker 1: Dragon hood. There you go, a dragon off. Looks like
he could be the the victim of a Madman Pound just.
Speaker 2: In a forced circumcision match. That's what.
Speaker 1: Oh sign it, Tony U.
Speaker 2: Nick Age comes in fucking oil. Well it caught it like.
Speaker 1: John Moxley versus mad Man Pound.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, don't bring up John Moxley because yeah, I'll
get a Bubbaret Dudley all all flustered. I guess, poor guy,
you saw that that whole thing with uh, with Bubbaret
Dudley being like I could beat up John Moxley. It's like, dude,
John Moxley fucking sucks. But you know he'd kicked the
shit out of you, dube.
Speaker 1: Is he just vying for a job.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like there's some part of
me that feels like this is all promotion for some
fucking indie show and everybody's just buying it though it well.
Speaker 1: That's what they were doing for braun Strowman, right like
braun Stroman got in trouble. I guess trouble quote unquote
because he started talking shit about OBA online and.
Speaker 2: Which unless he's saying something like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't even get to see the tweets. I saw
the fucking after effects, right, and people called out there like, uh,
he's stupid. You know that. You know w We was
paying him for months for his cooking show after they
fired him, right like, this is probably all part of it.
Probably is, It's probably all part of something where and
you even said it first, when we were talking about it, like,
dude will come back for fucking thirty days to lose
to Oba?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course he would. I need to have a
good attitude about it too, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: The first thing I thought of was, oh, food fight.
They're gonna have a food fight. That way, Russev can
promote the next season of his cooking show or whatever,
and Oba can kick the ship out of them.
Speaker 2: Like there you go. You know what they do? They
have a they have a match, and then they beat
the ship out of each other and they shake hands
at the end, and then Oba goes on his show
and has a.
Speaker 1: Yeah is it?
Speaker 2: Is it Nigeria or Kenya? Which is the I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Bronz Stroman isn't from either of those places.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you sure? What would give you that impression?
Brun Stroman, SAT's wearing the beating now is go to
woo a Southern accent? Oh yeah, no, that would honestly,
that would be the kind of the move right. We'd
have bron come back at some point and they have
a fight and then they he earns his respect and
then he goes on Bronz Strumman show and He's like,
I'm gonna fucking take you to a Nigerian restaurant and
lead everything on the menu or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe right around Survivor series and everybody's doing Thanksgiving
and shit, I don't know, maybe that's a time for
a for a food guy's food show when it comes
back to get involved with something.
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's not bad And I actually, honestly,
I kind of like that. I don't think that's a bad,
no good idea, you know what.
Speaker 1: And Triple H was talking with stephen A. Smith about
wrestling fans take shit too seriously, where a bunch of
curmudgeons we forget that WWE is supposed to be fun. Well,
how about you start by bringing some of the fun
back and not just plastering Dan Hausen's face on. Everything's
gotta be more fun than that.
Speaker 2: In w w E, stephen A. Smith was saying that
no s like steven A. Smith being like, wrestling's not fun.
I'm just not having fun with it. It's like stephen A,
you're not having fun with anything. You have like a
hundred million dollars and you're fucking miserable. Like every time
I see the guy, he's miserable.
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to see most of it,
but yeah, he was on there talking about Nick Conn
is a good boss, the best boss ever. That's just
boss that somebody could ever work for. And I'm like,
all right, so this is what he says, right, and
this is the readoff. It's hard to put down because
I love it. I love being around those kids. I
love collaborating with them and helping them and sort of
riffing ideas with them. It keeps you young and it's
the greatest part of my job. I've never been around
a better businessman. Regarding to Nick Conn, what is incredible
out of him is not only his mind for the
business for you know, rights, fees and ratings and analyzing
all those things, but he grew up a fan of this.
He grew up a fan of the boxing and combat sports,
but especially of pro wrestling. He's as deep a knowledge
as anybody I've met out there, and he's just straight forward.
What you see is what you get. And man, I
love working with him every day. So to me, he
and I together it's like this perfect partnership of being
able to do the business side, but this energy that
we both feel and have and love for this business
like nothing else. If there's anybody that's gifted at helping
people find out there why it is Nick Khan. It
is a Nick con which is why the WWE is
in tremendous hands. Make no mistake about it.
Speaker 2: I gotta wipe my chin, give me a break, by
the way, I the private equity fucking pro wrestling shit
where it's just like no one loves this more than him.
It's like, yeah, I'm sure the paying yourself fucking sixty
million dollars a year also too, that doesn't that might
make you like it a little bit more too, But
I'm just guessing you know where that's that's a possibility. Yeah,
he's he's just saying whatever he's got to at this point.
And also the hilarity of him saying, this is the
best businessman I've ever been around. As if like you
can almost just hear Vince make like a fucking gollumn
noise from one thousand miles away from a penthouse in Connecticut.
Speaker 1: It's difficult for you to even get me to believe
that they're in control anymore. I'm sorry when TKO is
openly embarrassing WWE, the company as a whole and saying
we're in control of all the creative shit. Everything that
goes on is pretty much our ideas or our hand fashions,
all of your wrestling, and these guys, you know, Triple
H and Nick kind of going, oh, yeah, we've got
great control of the business. No, you don't, now when
the parent company is calling you the bastard step children
of their wallets like.
Speaker 2: It's right, when when they're literally using us and at
M to fund their fucking yeah little little rallies. You
know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It feels less like WWE than it ever did before ever.
I mean, I guess maybe because it was always in
control of Vince, but I mean, some of the worst storylines,
worst years that we've had in wrestling, nothing even comes
close the way everything feels now. Everything is so exploitative,
everything is just it's only here for the pops. It's
almost as if WWE is in on the joke that
the fans have been in on for years, but now
the joke isn't any any more fun because they're just
using it to make money off of it, like there's.
Speaker 2: Just one Yeah, It's just it's funny to me because
TKO and UFC and Power Slap and I don't know,
the Amazing Jousting League or whatever the fuck. They're also
just feeding off of WWE from and it's honestly making
me think of like Demi Moore in the substance, you know,
where it's just like, you know what, let's just take
more WWE's money and just put it into UFC.
Speaker 1: Dude, I'd rather go back to COVID Wrestling. AJ Daniels
is like worse than twenty nineteen, Dude, worse than twenty twenty.
Give me back the fake fans behind fucking monitors. That
was more intriguing than the shit that I see on
TV today.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the main driving factor in that too is
when you're going, like, oh, I you know, I miss
when it was because there was at least a level,
like you said, of earnesty to it where now at
this point you're right, it's like everyone's just in on
this joke where they're like, fuck whatever whatever. Like I
you don't want the people that are running the company
to openly fucking tell you that they're not particularly interested
and everything that they're putting out into the world for you.
I mean, it is amusing to me still I guess
going back and talking about TNA earlier where they had
the opportunity to and I'm not saying TNA or some
like business fucking geniuses, clearly not. Uh, but the second
that they had the opportunity apparently to hire a road dog,
they were like, yeah, everyone, get the fuck out. They
literally can't. They're like, Tommy Dreamer sands all the bullshit
you just had go on this week. You've been here
for like eight years, to get the fuck out. Leave
by uh, Sammy Callahan, Uh, I don't know, squish yourself
through the doorframe. Fucking leave. Because he he fully believed,
like I saw the things where like he thought that
he was going to become the booker for TNA. I
buy that because I remember going back a decade he
was one of the few people that was like, I
want to run my own indie and I want to
do my shit, like he always seemed to kind of
like be halfway in almost even on a WWEE career anyways,
probably because he's got that got that lazy gena. I mean,
his health. It's almost like what's it No, No, But
it's I love.
Speaker 1: That you're equating, you know, one of the most important
positions to get a wrestling show off the ground with
the lazy guy.
Speaker 2: But he's fucking but it's just you can almost smell
it from him, like like he's like he'd rather be
playing video games and fantasy book. Yeah, that's probably you know,
like that's part of why. Like it's like he went
down to n XT and he was like missed the
Devil's crow Boy and he was there for three months.
They probably asked him to work out too much and
he was like, no, I want to go play World
of Warcraft or whatever. These fucking chuds are playing from
Ohio Fort. And he was like, yeah, you were Minecraft.
Maybe they're big Minecraft players, and no, what was what
was popular at the time. Let me try to think, oh, opiates, Yes, yes,
well they're still kind of popular, but different flavors.
Speaker 1: They'll never know the style. Really, you can wear.
Speaker 2: Them the classics, you know what I mean. Yeah, he
didn't want to fucking he didn't want to put all
the work in. It's like Keith Lee, like just some
people you see them where they're like they're willing to
be eighty percent of what they're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1: That's not fair. Keith Lee has been afflicted for years now.
He's still battling COVID. Can we.
Speaker 2: Listen, man, When COVID was going on and people were
overly minimizing it, you know that I was sitting there
and I'm like, let's fucking relax. Like people are just
like I understand that there were a lot of people
that in their minds they wanted to minimize it completely
because they were like kind of scared and freaked out.
Speaker 1: Well, you mean the gym the gym bros that had
to have their gym open in the middle of fucking
COVID and sweat on each other a problem.
Speaker 2: Maybe I need to rip deadlifts, dude.
Speaker 1: Everybody that goes to my gym is clean. Bro. We
cough on each other for fun, to keep our to
keep our desk us road, our our levels up. Jesus Christ, listen.
Speaker 2: If I'm not Jack sweating around other men and breathing,
they say emarism. That makes me gay, So I have
to go. I have to do that in the middle
of a.
Speaker 1: Going to enough gyms during COVID. Oh yeah, always.
Speaker 2: Builds his immunes. Yeah, he builds his immunes.
Speaker 1: Like chicken boxes and what just hangs out with his
hot wife all day. Poor guy, poor guy.
Speaker 2: Well he's just like I said, there's just some people
you can tell where they're like eighty percent of the
way into it, where when Bush comes to shove, like, yeah,
they would rather be home fucking playing video games and
low and behold there it is. But yeah, with you
with Keith Lee, like I said, I don't minimize it.
I know there's people that definitely got fucked up from COVID,
that had long term issues from it and whatnot. But
when it's like six years later and he's like, man,
I just can't I just can't get in shape, but
I can't fuck it overcome these injuries. It's like since
COVID has happened, they've put out what a half a
dozen GLP ones that help people lose weight, and like
you could, you could make some tangible lifestyle changes to
earn that fucking quarter million dollar contract I'm sure you
got from Tony Kahan, but you don't want to. You'd
rather fucking sit at home and play fucking I don't
know ed whatever MLB or fucking man, I don't fucking
know what these doors are. Play in some Lord of
the Ring shit. I don't care, but that's it. It's
like you're not all the way in. But that was
what TNA did. Like the message was right, yes, oh
we can get road Dog, get the fuck out, bye bye.
They'd rather have paid him, which, once again not saying
they're brilliant, but maybe they know something we don't know
in this moment, they're like, yeah, road Dog might have
been the driving force with him in Triple H. Behind
the time that we were talking about a few years ago,
we were like, remember when this shit made sense for
five minutes.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it was just pieces of the puzzle, that's
what it is. And I still kind of stand behind
that idea too, is that even if something seems like
it's not working, if the whole show is working, then
you don't fucking start taking a part other pieces just
for the sheer sake of doing it right. If wwe
had figured out that formula, and you're right, when Triple
H first took control after Vince McMahon had taken his leave,
at least the first time and technically the second time too,
there was a point where it was arguable but a
lot of fans and I guess the talent too, felt
like the shows were going in a real creative direction.
They were a lot more fun, They were a lot
more relaxed, They weren't as corny. Talents were able to
showcase themselves a lot better, even though there was still
the marketing element, which hasn't changed. If anything, it's gotten
much worse. But WWE for a while there had a
grace period of what what would you say about a
year and a half, two years, whereas where it felt like, Wow,
we've really turned the corner. Maybe Vince McMahon was the
problem the whole time. Maybe Vince was completely out of
touch and that's the problem. Do you know how many
articles are popping up left and right on random sites
now of oh ww would be so much better if
Vince McMahon was in control. W would return to its greatness.
If Vince McMahon was back in control. No, it wouldn't.
Vince McMahon is even more out of touch now than
ever before, because at least when Vince McMahon was still
in the company, regardless of how ancient he was, he
was surrounded by people that could affect his decisions. He
was listening to people that had at least good ideas
that he used his own judgment to weigh in and
weigh out whether it was good or not. He's been
away from these kind of counselors for a while, now,
What the fuck would Vince McMahon come back to the
voices in his head? Oh, that's gonna be a fun
fucking show. You want to worry about Tommy Dreamer spanking
some indie girl on the ass and a fucking in
front of fifteen people in a hot dog. What do
you think Vince mcmahnon was gonna do after he got
done getting caught shitting on girls heads?
Speaker 2: A guy who's probably progressively going into dementia himself.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like, it's not gonna get better. And
and Triple H and Nick Con and I don't even
fault them, You know what it is. They're the frogs
in the pot. Joe Triple H is the frog in
the pot. He is just waving and kissing babies until
it's his time to retire, until he collects his four
oh one k and gets the fuck out of there.
Nick Khn, I don't know. Nick Con still strikes me
as a guy who has things to do, like he
strikes me as there are there are directions that he
wants to take WWE financially and squeeze more blood out
of this stone. He strikes me as a completionist, and
he hasn't completed WWE yet. TKO. I think we were
all in an agreement that tk OO is just here
to take whatever profit they can possibly get from WWE
until they don't think it's worth the squeeze, until they
don't think it's worth the trouble, and then just toss
it off to whoever I'll buy it after that, Right,
So that's where you're at. Triple H doesn't care because
he doesn't have to anymore. And I believe him, I
really do. I believe the guy when he says I
love the kids, you know, I like going out here
and talking with them and giving them advice. And I'm
sure he does. I'm sure there's absolutely a part of
him that genuinely believes that, and that might even be
one of the things that he strongly holds on to.
The Triple H isn't looking to further his career. Triple
H doesn't have the vision pun intended of where to
take WWE in the future. That's why they've stuck us
with Roman and Seth for the last five years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the five is generous, and I mean.
Speaker 1: Code Road sits on the back burner doing almost absolutely nothing.
It's like everybody's just treading water since TKO got there.
Who is really being built up big? I know, I
know Triple H was in that interview with Steven and
he was talking about oba Oba's to be as big
as anybody else in WWE?
Speaker 8: Is he?
Speaker 1: Because I don't know about that, and I mean and
I don't. That's not a shot on Oba Femi. That's
not even a shot on Triple H. It's a shot
on how the company handles people. What faith? What faith
has WWE given anybody to believe that oba Femi is
going to be the next to Roman Reigns or Seth Rollins?
What what reason do we have to believe that the
company is going to make this guy bigger or worth
more than those guys? Nothing?
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's the belief that you know the WWE
when they get their mind set on somebody, that's what it's.
There's I think there's fans that are trying to will
that into existence too. Forget it's gonna be gunther Joe.
He is going to be fucking gun the people that
have this high hopes for Oba. You need to realize Gun,
there was the baddest man on the fucking show. They
gave him titles, they gave him time, they made him
a monster in every fucking way. They had him kill
John Cena. He was retiring motherfuckers left and right, and
now he can barely barely be bothered. He's a three
way in a sub main event. It's just this should
be the guy who's running the show. He should be
the big bad that everybody's trying to stop. But they
can't get over Roman, they can't get over Set. They
have these small ideas. And yes, I agree with you,
goof WWE's lack of building new stars was a problem
before Vince sold to Endeavor, Yes, But when Triple H
got it. For that two years, there was new life
being breathed into the company. There was potential happening with
people that nobody expected before. There were doors opening, or
at least willing to be opened by talents and by
the company. That's why people fell in love with the
Triple H rain In the beginning, there was a chance,
there was a chance that somebody was going to fucking
listen to the fans and listen to the talents, and
then t KO took absolute control, absolutely, And this is
where we're at Ai fucking wrestling and in the past decade,
and nobody could say that the audience has not given
Triple H a chance and I let him cool, could
give him time or whatever the fuck. No one could
say he's had two big Bello of the ball ballerina
moments in the past decade. Right, he had the NXT
Black and Gold era. Sure, well, like I said, he
got to stand in the ring and do his ballerina
twirl with the camera following him as the smarts cheer him,
and he goes, look, they finally like me. They love it.
Speaker 1: I did like him when he brought Poppy in for
Yo Skuy. So just for all my two cents.
Speaker 2: Well that was it was. He had that moment down
there at NXT where he was doing the thing that
the audience that always despised him, like, hey, we're acknowledging
that you people exist and we think that your opinions matter,
and we think there's value to some of the people
that you guys put on a pedestal. And they rolled
with it for that period of time and Lo and behold,
most of them failed miserably, but that's its own thing, right,
And then the start of the Triple Hr after Vince
McMahon went away and he was the main roster, fucking
he was booking all the shit there, and people were going,
oh my god, there's a real change here, which to me,
I think about if we were to break up the
amount of different times we've done this show for the
portions of whatever that was a good year and a
half or two, is where the people that we would say,
you guys never say anything nice about anybody or anything.
It's like I could just point you directly at those
shows and just be like we were fucking saying how
good everything was at that point.
Speaker 1: For the most part, I remember being excited to come
on the show and talk about fucking Rawary Week and yeah, shit,
matter of fact, we.
Speaker 2: Were talking about SmackDown too. I mean, it feels crazy,
It feels like that that might as well have been
a decade ago, but it was. It was really relatively soon.
But yeah, like I think to myself, the people that
might have just listened to why is it it's like
because it's not good, not.
Speaker 1: Pretending it is. That's the problem too, is that these
people are pretending it is good. Oh, you guys are
just mean to Seth signed Seth Richards, Yeah, like I
got it. You know, you guys are just mean. Roman Dude,
re read this because this was absolute fucking And I
know it's Paul Haman, but he's got to stop. I
don't know who he's doing this for. I don't know
if Paul Haman is just trolling everybody at this point.
But he goes on, well was he Chris Chris van
Fish And he started talking about what inspired Roman Reigns
to be Roman no Boy, And he's talking about where
Roman Reigns has ended up now at this point of
his career. And he says, Apocalypse Now, Marlon Brando's portrayal
of Kurts. If you watch Apocalypse Now, it's Francis Ford
Coppola's great epic masterpiece. And it's about a warrior Kurtz
or a wrestler Roman Reigns, who is a warrior of
such magnificence that he takes over an entire island. Well,
it's not the island of Samoa, but it can be
the island of relevancy in that he takes over the
entire island. The horror, Paul, what the fuck are you saying?
Everyone on that island. Let's say that there's members of
the bloodline, and then the wise man and at some
point Sammy's aim. But all these constituents, these constituents on
the island look to this general. Well, let's not call
him a general. Let's call him the tribal chief for
food and shelter and security, sustainability and life what. And
they all rely on this general, this tribal chief, for that,
and may all worship him. But let's not use the
word worship. Let's use the word acknowledge. So they all
acknowledge their tribal chief for the many things that he
brings is life, security, food and shelter. So who shows
up to gun down Roman reigns because I'm waiting for that?
Is it L? Knight? Because I think L. A. Knight
is coming on a pontoon, but with a fucking ar
and a six pack?
Speaker 2: Okay, right?
Speaker 1: And at some point, it's not just the responsibility and
the obligation and the accountability, it's the burden. It's the
burden that every consituent on that island feels and relies
on the general relies in the tribal chief for food, sheltered, security, safety,
and that burden. So the burden, who are you doing
this for? Paul? And it goes on, he keeps going on.
It's like, who are you trying to get? Are you
just trying to piss off Chris? That's got to be
what it is, right.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Roman hears all of this and
looks up from his Chipotle fucking rice and chicken bowl
and goes, oh, dudo, Yeah that's all that. Yeah, yeah,
that's definitely what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I love but this is so bad. And you know
what the weird thing is too, is Paul Hayman could
do so much more with a guy like Rowan Rains.
There is no way you can tell me that this
guy is handcuffed when it comes to Rowan Rains, because
you know what, at this point, what does Rowan Rains
have to offer other than losing? He has nothing to offer.
The only thing he has left at this point is
to lose, right, right.
Speaker 2: When you've already won every single fucking thing you can,
You're right. The only thing that has left after that
is for you to start making some kings on your own,
to start putting some people over, to start going to
have your moment where you're fucking passing the torch, as
they say, and that just seemingly isn't gonna happen. Also,
by the way, like when I hear him talk about
this type of shit and put this sort of like
in blind fucking just love and admiration, it makes me
want to be like I want to see what he
writes to his wife and her fucking anniversary card, you
know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1: I thank you, Sweeten for supporting me and jiggling my balls.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Thanks you, babe. And then that's it, Like
and then he puts in a twenty dollars gift card.
What what?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 1: What do you? How much do you want to bet
that he probably has an assistant that comes up with
his fucking anniversary cards for him I know, right, And
he's gonna be one of those guys. Like I know
most people don't understand this, but when when people become rich,
when guys become rich, they have secretaries to do all
that ship for them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because you'd hate you'd hate to put any
sort of emotional investment into anything in your life at
that point.
Speaker 6: What.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I paid enough money to not be emotionally attached.
Eddy one, what get your forearm off my ass, Tobby,
I don't wanna. It's not my fore arm. He sounds
like the kid, the kid from Malcolm in the Middle
of Stevie. Yeah, I'm trying the Yeah, the the innovator
of fry Rylin. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We got we have Frank and Gust tomorrow, everybody, we
will be back to do Frank and Gus. We got
Saturday at noon or at one o'clock. Right one o'clock
it starts, so probably the pre show starts at what eleven?
Speaker 2: Yes, brunch, fucking WWE presents eat a fucking bacon, egg
and cheese.
Speaker 1: Earlier though, what two o'clock. I'm thinking that'd be nice,
wouldn't it. Oh, well, meet me two o'clock. Well, no,
maybe me three o'clock.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it'll be I think it'll
be done by like four for me over here. You
know what, Maybe that's what I'll do is I'll I'll
wake up, I'll make a pot of coffee, I'll make
some flapjacks, you know, I'll make some pancakes, and then
I'll just sit. I'll sit in front of the TV
and I'll say, feed me my slock t k O.
Speaker 1: I'll just go over YouTube clips of Steve bent Over
going that's my forearm. Steve Roman Rains is our generations,
Colonel Kurtz.
Speaker 8: He's like the Rocket, so cold and bruno all and
what he's just he's the best.
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