WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:03.520 Hey, you guys, what is happening and what is up? 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:06.400 They hold out that glass baby, because we are gonna 3 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:09.599 feel it up. Hey. First of all, happy fourth of 4 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:13.320 July everyone. I hope you're celebrating. I hope you're doing 5 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:17.000 it big baby. You gotta work hard, you gotta play hard. 6 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:21.879 Two one hundred and fifty year birthday to celebrate our 7 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:27.960 rebellion against our big brother. See. You know how the 8 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:36.079 British say, happy for is right? Happy birthday ungrateful rebels. 9 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:40.920 So happy birthday America. Hey, I'm pulling out this episode 10 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:42.880 because it was a really good one from back in 11 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:46.000 the day with the Big Bible podcast, and we covered 12 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:52.399 the founding fathers and the creation of America. Is America 13 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:58.359 really founded as a Christian nation? We're gonna make you 14 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:00.679 guys ponder on that one. If you have. I'm already 15 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:06.200 sit back, relax and enjoyed the journey. Guys. What's going on? 16 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:09.640 All my local guys and gals and long distance pals. 17 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:11.599 We back, We are back. 18 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:16.480 I gotta be honest, I still am digging listening to 19 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:18.239 that new intro. I think I think you did a 20 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:19.000 great job on that. 21 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:20.239 It was awesome. 22 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:25.319 What Justin is our our editor, our tech wizard, and 23 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:26.680 most of our brains so. 24 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:30.040 And and the Facebook genius. 25 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:31.879 Well that's true. 26 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:36.480 Yeah, it's the labor of love. The tech guy, Well, 27 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:41.680 it was his brother that bestowed the crown upon me. True. 28 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:42.760 How's that kick? 29 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:46.079 Shout out to shout out to my brother Mike, who 30 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:55.120 has helped us through numerous technical difficulties. Yes, but I'm 31 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:56.840 kind of excited about this week. 32 00:01:58.359 --> 00:01:59.120 But I'm different. 33 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:02.519 I don't know. I think maybe maybe we should go 34 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:04.200 ahead and pray. What do you think? I think it's 35 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:05.079 Ben's turn to pray. 36 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:09.759 Yeah, Ben, Dear Lord, thank you for today, Thank you 37 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:13.879 for this good weather that we've had. Lord, Please give 38 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:18.680 us dis serment. Please have this conversation we're about to 39 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:25.599 have been lightening and have it reach who it needs 40 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:28.879 to reach and speak through us and Jess Name. 41 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:34.759 Amen, Amen, Amen, you go read ahead, you jump into this. 42 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:36.639 So I guess just like getting into it. It's like 43 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:42.319 he was probably about two years ago. I ran across 44 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:46.800 the documentary and watched it, and it was on you know, 45 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:50.800 the Founding Fathers, you know, and them being Christians. You know, 46 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:54.120 in school, we're always taught that, you know, we were 47 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:57.080 found on Christian principles, where a Christian nation, you know, 48 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:01.919 one nation under God, and that's to you from kindergarten. 49 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:03.800 So it's kind of like just beating in your head, 50 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:11.919 you know. And this documentary basically challenged that assumption and 51 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:14.879 actually took a deep dive into it and really exposed 52 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:20.439 quite the opposite. And I remember it was just mind blowing. 53 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:23.759 But at the beginning of the year, actually at the 54 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:26.080 tail end of twenty twenty two, we sit down and 55 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:29.199 was discussing what's topics and stuff that we wanted to 56 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:31.599 talk about, and this was one of the ones that 57 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:36.000 was brought up. But I had to rewatch that documentary 58 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:40.080 and I cannot remember the name of it. Steven He's 59 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:41.840 I'm sure he's got it written down over here, the 60 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:43.759 name of this documentary. If you want to go back 61 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:47.439 and watch it all over Yeah. I haven't watched it yet, 62 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:49.560 but I will. Yeah, it was really good. And then 63 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:54.159 I bought some books on the Freemasons and even alchemy 64 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:57.400 and stuff like that to take a further deep dive 65 00:03:57.439 --> 00:03:58.800 into this. I think this is going to be a 66 00:03:58.800 --> 00:03:59.479 good discussion. 67 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:04.280 This documentary was called The Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers. 68 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.159 You can find it on YouTube, but I will tell 69 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:11.800 you it is enlightening. It A lot of what we're 70 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:14.759 pulling today comes from that, along with some other sources 71 00:04:14.800 --> 00:04:18.480 as well. But this it's it's just a really good 72 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:20.759 deep dive it get I mean, buckle your seat belts. 73 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:23.120 About three hours long, but it's going to really change 74 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:30.000 your perception of why we're here, like why was our 75 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:33.480 country founded? Like where did it come from? And what 76 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:39.319 were the the principles, the morals and the reasons that 77 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:42.399 that brought us to where we are today. And actually, 78 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:45.839 after you hear some of the things today, maybe where 79 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:47.920 we are today won't surprise you so much. 80 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:49.720 Yeah. 81 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:52.639 Yeah, I mean that's kind of a weird way of 82 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:53.199 looking at it. 83 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:56.480 Yeah, because you know, we've been always taught one thing 84 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.720 and then now I guess with this doc documentary and 85 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:04.639 some other stuff, it's a little different and it just 86 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:07.480 seems to be like a common trend. And then that's 87 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:10.720 the reason why there's shows like ours. It's like, you know, 88 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:14.000 once we start digging in and looking into these things 89 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:17.319 that we are told, we find out quite often that 90 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:21.240 there's a lot more to the story, right, And as 91 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:25.959 they say, you know, the winner writes history you know, 92 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:29.519 so they'll say whatever they want to say, kind of 93 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:33.920 fluff it up a little bit, leave out the gruesome details, 94 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:38.000 which I'm not denying. You know, the first people's you know, 95 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:41.000 on that Mayflower. You know, the Pilgrims were Christian people. 96 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:43.639 That's not what I'm getting at. You know, yes, they 97 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:48.000 set out here to form a Christian nation, but we're 98 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:51.399 specifically talking about the Founding Fathers, the ones that was 99 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:55.279 the heads of the Revolutionary War. The First Congress. Yeah, 100 00:05:55.319 --> 00:06:00.639 they formed our union, right, I guess that be considered 101 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:01.519 the first Congress. 102 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:04.560 I guess. I guess I'll kind of start here a 103 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:07.680 little bit with I was, I was looking at a 104 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.120 few different things, and I found a guy I found 105 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:13.680 pretty interesting was Gordon Wood. He's a professor of history 106 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:17.560 at Brown University. And when he was kind of confronted 107 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.639 with the question the guy, I mean, he's he's excellent. 108 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:22.839 You can you can find some of his work to 109 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:27.319 a few different places, but Gordon would and he said 110 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:31.519 that most Founding fathers were not emotionally right religious is 111 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:34.000 how he said it. And he said some were even 112 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:38.279 anti religious. Uh, to the point where Jefferson hated organized 113 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:42.480 religion and a big thing that we'll jump into, and 114 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:45.879 this is a big thing that we see throughout the 115 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:53.720 Founding Fathers is they believed in the principles of of 116 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:56.879 what what Jesus stood for, but they did not believe 117 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:59.959 in any of his divinity. And that's something that we're 118 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:02.639 to see straight across the board here with pretty much 119 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:04.759 all the Founding Fathers as we kind of go through this. 120 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:11.639 Right, it's like it was a good structure for moral teaching, 121 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:16.639 for moral teaching and civilization to work as a whole, 122 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:22.199 but obviously not, you know, following Jesus and stuff like that. 123 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:26.879 I guess starting it off, you know, a guy named 124 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:30.160 Charles Thompson. Uh. You know, he was the one that 125 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.199 made the final call on the Great Seal of the 126 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:35.040 United States and on the back of the American dollar bill, 127 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.399 you know, the the pyramid with the eye on top. 128 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:42.040 You know, some people call it the all seeing Eye. Uh. 129 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:45.000 But you know, this guy kept great records and details 130 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:48.000 about the revolution and the men that were involved. You know, 131 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:51.399 people even begged him to publish his historical records, but 132 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:54.439 he declined. Steven, you want to tell us what his 133 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:57.800 reply to those the requests were? 134 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:02.519 The quote here after he was encouraged to publish as 135 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:06.360 he said, no, I ought not, for I should contradict 136 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:09.240 all the histories of the great events of the revolution. 137 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.519 Let the world admire the supposed wisdom and valor of 138 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:18.759 our great men. I shall not undeceive future generations. 139 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:22.920 That really tells you undeceive. 140 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:26.920 And this guy, Charles Thompson, was the Congressional Secretary from 141 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.800 seventeen seventy four to seventeen eighty nine. Somebody who the 142 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:34.559 Congressional secretary, who wrote it off everything down, who was 143 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:37.799 in the middle of everything, kept all the records, would 144 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:42.480 have had the most complete, most accurate history of how 145 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:45.840 our country was founded. And he's and what he ended 146 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:48.320 up doing with those documents, he said, it would be it. 147 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:51.600 You can't release them for that reason. So he eventually 148 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:52.120 destroyed them. 149 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:54.679 He burned out, destroyed them so nobody could find out that. 150 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:58.240 Oh yeah, well, I mean, I know, I like, I'll 151 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.279 standing you guys earlier. We've been I've been watching a 152 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.639 little stuff about the Revolutionary War, and there is a 153 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:08.519 lot of stuff that would the verbiage would have freed 154 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:11.840 the slaves at the time of the writing of the 155 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:17.759 Declaration of Independence, But they didn't want to do that. Now, 156 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:22.039 obviously we all know slavery is wrong, and if you 157 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:27.440 you know, I guess Jesus didn't really address slavery, but 158 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:34.480 if are God given rights totally debunk slavery. And they 159 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:38.759 had to rewrite the constant or the declaration multiple times, 160 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:44.039 so therefore they didn't have to free their slaves. We 161 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:46.879 atheists try to defend, you know, or try to fight 162 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:49.679 us and say, well, you know the Torah says it's 163 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:52.799 okay for slavery. Well, the thing is is God. A 164 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:56.200 walk with God is a process. It's not an overnight change. 165 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:59.399 With a lot of you know, people in this area, 166 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:01.919 like Southern Baptists and stuff. I've always been taught, you know, 167 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:04.919 when you're saved, boom, you know you're not going to 168 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:09.000 see it no more. It's a process and God meets 169 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:11.320 you where you are. So God was like, okay, you 170 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:14.240 got slaves, Well I'm gonna lay down some laws where 171 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:16.360 you're gonna have to treat them good. At least. My 172 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:19.000 plan down the road is to get rid of this. 173 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:21.080 But for right now, I'm going to meet you where 174 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:22.919 you're at, and you're least going to have a set 175 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:24.840 of laws and be set apart from everybody else, and 176 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:26.159 you're going to treat them well. 177 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:28.639 Right and biblically. A lot of the times that they 178 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.960 were and not speaking of like the Egyptian slavery or 179 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:34.320 things of that, but when they were slaves within their 180 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:37.919 own within their own people a lot of times, and 181 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.639 what would be is they couldn't settle a debt, so 182 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:44.879 they would sell themselves. They're working it off, So that's 183 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:45.799 the terminology. 184 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:47.799 Not really a slave, you're working it. 185 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:50.519 And then the law, the levitical law at the time, 186 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:54.960 would every seven years it would forgive all debts at 187 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.519 all slaves to be freed right as a levitical law. 188 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:02.000 So I mean, you see, that's the the And I 189 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:05.840 love how how God works and it's every seventh day, 190 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:09.879 you know, it's the completion numbers, and there's so much there. 191 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:13.120 Well on top of that, you know, one of our 192 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:17.279 that Jesus said to do is love your neighbor as yourself. 193 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:21.960 I don't want to be nobody's slave. I mean, you know, 194 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.759 come on now, it's all you bankers take note. Yeah, 195 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:27.279 after seven years, you're gonna have to, yeah, forgive. 196 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:31.919 It's biblical like. 197 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:34.360 Like Stephen said, don't take our word for it. Read 198 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:41.360 your Bible true story. Kill that rabbit. Now we're gonna okay, sorry, 199 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:46.480 back to the wait, let's back it up. There you go, 200 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:50.519 There we go. So with Charles Thompson's comments, you know, 201 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:53.879 he destroyed the manuscripts and he says he shall not 202 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.000 undeceive of future generations. Now, what have we been deceived of? 203 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:03.679 Is the question? You know? In God we trust? Is 204 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:05.519 that a trick on your money? 205 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:07.159 Actually? 206 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:07.399 You know. 207 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:09.320 The way that I take this, and once again this 208 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:12.519 is going to be my personal point of view, and 209 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:14.840 the way I interpret that. I can't say this is 210 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:18.360 one hundred percent, you know. But if you look at 211 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:21.840 what they believe, most of them believed, it was more 212 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:25.000 of what we call deism, right. They believed in a 213 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:28.039 divine creator, but a creator that did not have any 214 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:31.759 interaction with man. There was a total separation. So they 215 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:35.840 were smart enough to understand evolution wasn't real. But at 216 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:40.399 the same time they they didn't couldn't understand anything like 217 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:45.039 anything beyond the fact that God created it. Anything past 218 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:49.679 that was something What happened here happened here, right, There 219 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:53.840 was no other divine outside forces anything like that. 220 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:56.559 So I think this probably be like a good segue 221 00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:01.600 to just kind of break down Freemasonry, because all the 222 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:04.840 founding fathers were free Masons and members of you know, 223 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:07.799 the lodges, and even the ones that are not outright 224 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:12.360 prove and you know, you are the company you keep 225 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:15.720 the ones, even the ones that are disputed that they 226 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.440 don't know, all their best friends for Masons, and they 227 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:23.440 had Masonic right thoughts and right you know, ideals. 228 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:26.320 I would say that they and I mean the proven 229 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:28.720 amount of Masons, you know, I think they said out 230 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.120 of the there was nine I think it's nine. 231 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:33.399 Not confirmed that were affirmed that were. 232 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:35.759 Lodges, some that were lodge leaders, you know, like Benjamin 233 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:38.879 Franklin was a lodge leader in Paris and Philadelphia and 234 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:41.799 Philadelphia and a member of hell Fire Club as well. 235 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:46.120 And that's a whole different and a womanizer. We'll get 236 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:46.600 through us. 237 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.000 And in nineteen ninety eight they found ten bodies buried 238 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:50.799 in the basement he had lived in his whole life. 239 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:53.720 I'm sorry, we'll get there later, oh my, but uh 240 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:57.120 but anyway, sorry, there's there's I mean, this goes this 241 00:13:57.159 --> 00:13:59.840 is a rabbit hole that takes us so far, and 242 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.919 it's they believe that there was a God. But after 243 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:07.840 that so they believed in God, but they did not 244 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:12.360 believe in the It was wasn't specifically, yahweh, No, it 245 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:15.080 sure wasn't. And actually, if you look track it back, 246 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:17.840 a lot of this comes from a lot of the 247 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:22.039 French ideologies that were happening pre pre Our Revolution, which 248 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:26.159 was like ten or so years pre to the French Revolution, 249 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:31.399 and that those ideas were founded on human reason. 250 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:32.200 The goddess reason. 251 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:33.759 Well, and that's where they come from, is it was 252 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:35.639 the goddess reason, and to the point where they'd show 253 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:38.039 her even on a throne where they'd put her above 254 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.840 where reason ruled all human reason. So if an idea 255 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:49.279 did not jive with your human reason, if it didn't 256 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:51.200 make sense, then it wasn't true. 257 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:55.440 Yes, that kind of sounds familiar, don't it. Yeah, we'll 258 00:14:55.440 --> 00:15:00.320 see there's lots of you know, rumors and stories about 259 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:03.039 you know, the Mason's being, you know, an occult and 260 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.840 you know, Satan worship and sacrifice. You know, we're not 261 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.159 going to go down that hole. We're going to talk 262 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:11.879 about the things that we can prove, you know, within 263 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:15.720 being a secret society. You know, there's it leaves room 264 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:18.639 for all kinds of speculation. But what we do know 265 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:22.840 is that the only rule to become a free Mason 266 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:27.279 is that you must proclaim a divine architect that there 267 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:34.039 is a God, you know, whether it's yahweh Allah, Shiva, whatever. 268 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:38.919 And another rule they had with the lodge was religion 269 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:41.519 and politics were supposed to be left out of the 270 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:44.120 lodge and the meetings. Anything that I guess that would 271 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:50.879 cause division. But they were all about knowledge, you know, 272 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:57.600 basically man evolutionizing himself into a God. 273 00:15:57.679 --> 00:16:03.080 Himself, which and break that back to the Garden of Eden, 274 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:03.960 and you'll. 275 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:06.759 Be as guides, Yes, you shall be as God's And. 276 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:09.000 That's something that humanity has always tried to get back to, 277 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:11.000 so as soon as we try to put ourselves in 278 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:13.840 that position, and it's something that you see repetitive throughout history, 279 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:15.320 but keep going. 280 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.080 Sorry, yeah, so so just because you know, they say, 281 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:20.840 you know, oh, well, the Freemasons are Christians. They believe 282 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:25.519 in God, they believe in a God. So I mean 283 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:29.320 that's that's a pretty broad spectrum right there. And like 284 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:31.600 I mentioned, we're not talking about the Pilgrims. You know, 285 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:34.120 that was one hundred and fifty years had passed from 286 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.000 the time of the pilgrims coming here to the revolution, 287 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:39.600 and that left a lot of time for a lot 288 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:42.759 of bad seed and stuff to get planted. So I 289 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:47.440 guess going to a really key figure in this whole plot, 290 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:51.200 what was Thomas Pain. You know Thomas Pain. You know 291 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:55.960 it says the revolution begins with this guy. You know, 292 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:59.639 he wrote common Sense, and he brought the and he 293 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.759 out the Declaration of Independence. You know, Benjamin Franklin encouraged 294 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:08.480 him to come to America and write Common Sense. You know, 295 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:14.039 John Adams even said Paine's words were equal to Washington's sword. 296 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:17.160 So they were saying that, you know, if he wouldn't 297 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:20.279 have wrote, you know, common Sense and his ideologies that 298 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:23.680 he brought the revolution when it never got started. That 299 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:27.400 the words of Thomas Paine where yeah, the spirit behind 300 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:30.960 the American The book Common Sense was what kind of 301 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:37.119 opened the eyes of the Americans. 302 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:40.319 Kind of makes you wonder what was behind and maybe 303 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.000 who indirectly was behind that. I mean, yes, Thomas Paine 304 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:45.920 wrote it, but when you look at it, they took 305 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:50.759 that same book they translated into French and then the 306 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:53.680 French Revolution kind of came as a part of that 307 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:54.240 as well. 308 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:59.640 Well, he wrote that book, and then when just about pain, 309 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:05.119 he wrote the Common Sense Book, and then after the 310 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:10.759 first year of war he wrote another book because George 311 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:14.599 Washington was getting his butt kicks a bad to trying 312 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:19.599 to re refire the Revolutionary War and seeing a lot 313 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:22.000 of people, historians and stuff, you know, look back at 314 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.160 this and they call this the age of reason. Well, 315 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:29.720 the age of reason reason, I'm sorry, hated Christianity. You know, 316 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:34.119 he's even quoted saying I cannot dishonor my creator by 317 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:37.200 calling it by his name. You know, this is the 318 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:40.599 words of Thomas Payne. You know, he believed in a god, 319 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:42.599 just not the one of the Bible. You know, like 320 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:45.640 I said, you know, he was freemason. You know, he 321 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:49.200 is quoted saying, it is the fable of Jesus Christ 322 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:52.480 as told in the New Testament in the wild and 323 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:57.680 visionary doctrine raised there on to which I contend. And 324 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:00.799 that's pretty strong statement, and it. 325 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:05.279 Only gets worse. No, Yeah, that was another quote from 326 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:09.000 the story. Taking it as it is talking about the Bible, 327 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:12.759 the story as it is, Taking it, I'm sorry, Taking 328 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:19.759 it as it is told is blasphemy, obscene. I mean 329 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:26.279 he's straight up calling the Bible blasphemous. I mean, that's 330 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:28.359 the most blasphemous thing you can do, is called the 331 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:29.799 Bible blasphemous. 332 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:34.480 And first John, you know, chapter four even talked about that. 333 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:37.839 You know, he said, beloved, do not trust every spirit, 334 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:40.640 but test all spirits to see whether they belong to God. 335 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:44.240 Many false prophets have gone out into this world. This 336 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:47.599 is how you can tell and know that the spirit 337 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:51.519 of God, every spirit that acknowledges Jesus Christ come in 338 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:55.400 the flesh, belongs to God. Every spirit that does not 339 00:19:55.519 --> 00:20:00.319 acknowledge Jesus does not belong to God. This is the 340 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:01.960 spirit of anti Christ. 341 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:05.079 And this takes us right back into that Ephesian six 342 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:07.960 twelve that we talk about all the time. What do 343 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:11.200 we what do we alter? What are we ultimately battling? Who? 344 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:14.680 You know behind this when you have people usually that 345 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:17.119 and you look at this throughout history and everything that 346 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:22.079 and we even deal with this sometimes with just stuff online. 347 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:24.359 You can post something about Jesus. You could post something 348 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:27.759 about alien and no one cares you post something about 349 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:30.720 Jesus and you will be under attack. And why is 350 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:34.200 it that you that people have to And we look 351 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:35.839 at this, and we look at some of these quotes 352 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:40.680 from these Founding fathers. They're so adamantly against, not just 353 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:45.720 not just I don't believe that, adamantly against, fired up 354 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:48.079 for that. And to me that seems like maybe there's 355 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:50.119 a little more behind that, if you if you you 356 00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:51.039 catch my drift there a. 357 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:56.920 Little Yeah, that's the same with like atheist, Why are 358 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.480 you so concerned about me worshiping a god if you 359 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:03.000 don't believe there's a god, you just look at me 360 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:05.480 like I'm silly. Well, it's just like kids with Santa 361 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:09.799 Claus and tooth Fairy. Yeah, they're not real. What whoa? Whoa? Whoa? 362 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:12.920 Sorry kids, whoa whoa? So do you just run right 363 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.240 out and just tell all these little kids you know 364 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:19.920 you're stupid. You're an idiot. Girls not real girls, push 365 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:23.920 your ideas on me, you know, right, yeah, you know 366 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:26.400 he's not real. Let the kids believe what they want 367 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:27.039 to believe. 368 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:30.759 All right. We've unicorns have been proven real, so let's 369 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:33.079 not get carried away. 370 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:35.279 But you know it's you know, we talked about it. 371 00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:37.400 You know this, you know the spirit of Reese and 372 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:41.359 you know it could not believe in supernatural things of 373 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:45.440 the Bible, and like Steven touched on it. You know, 374 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:49.319 the goddess of reason, you know, was exalted on a throne, 375 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:52.519 and you know many statues and pictures, you know. Uh, 376 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.599 the fifteen ninety nine Geneva Bible had footnotes talking about 377 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:00.839 how pagans would enthrone the goddess of reason, reason would 378 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:01.839 govern your. 379 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:07.440 Understanding and hold on, I pulled a good one for 380 00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:10.519 that too. 381 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.920 Well, even even with the reason stuff. While he's looking, 382 00:22:13.680 --> 00:22:18.160 I mean, look at like Sparta. They were all about 383 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:23.400 reason all the Greece, you know, you know Greek they were. 384 00:22:23.559 --> 00:22:25.880 They weren't Christian by no means. 385 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:30.240 How about uh, Second Corinthians ten four. We use God's 386 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:34.559 mighty weapons to knock down the strongholds of human reasoning 387 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:40.079 and to destroy false arguments. I just that one. It's 388 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:43.279 it's funny how you can see how God gave us 389 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:47.359 the tools so far ahead of time and throughout history 390 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:51.480 that to combat all this to know the truth. And 391 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:54.480 it just blows me away that we can take a book, 392 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:57.319 you know that some of it which was written you know, 393 00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:01.720 wait before Jesus, significantly for Jesus. Some of it that's 394 00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:04.640 written just post Jesus, and we can take that book that's, 395 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.519 you know, a couple thousand years old, and we can 396 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:10.599 still use that book to this day to everything that's 397 00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:14.119 going on even right now. And as you what did 398 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:15.880 you just say? What did you just say about the Uh, 399 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:18.799 don't take our word for it. Read your Bible because 400 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:21.480 it's there, it's right in front of you, and you 401 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:24.960