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the voice shoes. One of the faces of b y
U TV and Boy SportsNation. We got Jerem Jordan online JJ.
How that g are you man?
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, see hugs, Let's go Super Bowl Champs.
Speaker 3: I forget your Sea high span as a from an
entertainment standpoint, and I know you know from NF I
know where you stand from a fanaticism standpoint, but from
an entertainment standpoint, what would you create the Super Bowl
in twenty twenty six?
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm a s X fan, so it was an
A plus. It was off the charts. It was elite football, honestly,
especially on defense and special teams. So it just continues
to show that. And by went this way this last year, right, Hey,
liking it unto us? Get in there and make it
about you. Yes, hey, if you can play defense and
run the football, that's winning football. Like spreading the field,
speed stuff, tempo, deep throat. Yes, you should mix in explosives.
You need explosive, But what we saw from the Seahawks
is winning football. And BYU won twelve games last year
because they had a great defense and a great run game.
And that's where it's at. Tim Darnold didn't have to
do Jack squat yesterday. And you know, if you can
make it where Bear doesn't have to do a ton
of LJ carries a big load and the run game
and the defense does that thing. Now we're talking about
maybe you always back in Arlington kind of kind of bobs.
Speaker 5: That's what I took away from it.
Speaker 4: But I understand if people didn't enjoy it because it
was never actually that close, you know, but it was
just nice. I think America wanted to see the Patriots lose,
you know.
Speaker 3: Did they Is that what they want? Is that what
America wants?
Speaker 4: The Niners fans are like, no, Seahawks need to lose,
because it was great to beat not only the Patriots,
but do it on the Niners field like that is
can you imagine by you like, winning a title on
Utah's field.
Speaker 5: That's what happened yesterday.
Speaker 3: Pretty impressive. Indeed, I thought it was entertaining. It was
born to some I'm a defensive guy. I like to
see pitchers duels, you know. I like to see defensive execution,
the physicality and the trenches, the trench warfare. I thought
it was. It was a great game. And look, let's
be honest, though, the true super Bowl was the Seahawks
versus the Rams, right, yep, yep.
Speaker 4: Winner was gonna win that like if yeah, if the
Rams had gone, Pokinako would be celebrating having a ring
this morning.
Speaker 5: For sure.
Speaker 3: You feel for Tyrus though I thought Kiris had a
tremendous season. He's in your five. I believe of his
NFL career and and man, he's lean and explosive and
definitely a high contributor right now for one of the
best defenses in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Is he lean?
Speaker 4: I think I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you, dude, he's he's leaner, like he
has good weight on him. He is like the Tiris
that you knew, you know what I'm telling you. Like,
he's different. He's built different now, he's got more bend
in the hips, he's more explosive. He's not just a
big body anymore. He's he's explosives now.
Speaker 4: That's great and and probably it has to be if
they're gonna put him in a fullback. I don't think
they did in a single time yesterday, right I was
looking forward to him being the fridge, maybe getting like
a carry there near the goal line at b Why
he did that against Idaho States. As we recall, we
had clients taking on the show last week and we
brought up this idea and he said, he's more like
the freezer. And we were hoping that he would get
a carry in the super Bowl, but the Seahawks are like, Nope,
if you're gonna score, you can do it.
Speaker 5: From whalet there.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, congratulations to uh everybody that got to participate
in the Super Bowl. We always like to see cougar's
in the pros in those Super Bowl games. And in
the modern era, right Kansas City has been dominated. Is
the Andy Reid dominants? Is it? Is it dwindling? Is
it falling away? Or We're not going to see Andy
in the super Bowl in the foreseeable future.
Speaker 4: I mean probably not because Pat Mahomes come back, comes
back next year and he got it what mid to
late part of the year, Like he's not gonna be
a hundred hundred percent per.
Speaker 5: Say, like it.
Speaker 4: It could be difficult, you know. Is Travis Kelsey gonna retire?
Is he gonna come back? He's a little older, like
you got a new OC and whatnot. So what's what's
gonna happen there?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Andy the great coach though, like at some at some
point Andy built off of what he learned from LaBelle
and became a better coach than level, which is incredible,
right at the highest level, which is what you want,
like you want to, uh, you know, have your children
have a better life than you, Like Lavell helped make
a bunch of coaches that have done great things and
a bunch of guys just thinking about the NFL perspective,
Brian Billick, Mike Holmgren, Andy Reid, and so on and
so forth. So it's fun to see those guys succeed
at the next next level.
Speaker 5: It's very cool.
Speaker 4: It's it's part of Lavell's legacy is that Andy Reid
has been who he's been.
Speaker 3: Love that JJ. One of the things we've been discussing
today is UH with A with a recency bias poll.
These are my favorite because they've it's been so dominant.
It's been kind of lopsided towards basketball over the last
two years. But I'm asking the question, you know what,
what are you more optimistic about right now? The future
of BAU basketball for the fir see of a future
or BAU football. Where do you stand? Which one are
you more optimistic about?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That is a that is a great end. Listen, you
and I are in the same business. We got content
every day to put out.
Speaker 1: You know, is.
Speaker 4: Has the longest losing streak in three years?
Speaker 1: Of that question?
Speaker 4: Of course, it's it's kicking them while they're down.
Speaker 5: No, I get it.
Speaker 4: Though, Look, football, it's hard not to be excited about
football with everybody that returns, and we don't know what
they're gonna do next year. If you ask this in
the middle of a three game losing streak in Big
till play next year for football, if they had that, like, yeah,
that's easy to say, Well, basketball, maybe it's hard. It's
hard right now too, because the thing with men's basketball
is they don't have a lot of different cards they
can play that aren't currently in the hand. Like last
year it was okay.
Speaker 5: They have a deep bench, they have down.
Speaker 4: A poost there you can always mix match that you're
starting with witmag over cannon catchings. That everything changes what's
boy men's basketball is supposed to do. They don't have
a card to play. They're the only card they could
really play is starting Boop over Canard Davis. But then
do you lose Canard completely? Like right now is not
shooting great from three outside of the second alfriganst Arizona,
he's been abysmal. And then By's defense. It felt better
against Houston than Oklahoma State, but honestly, it wasn't that
much better. It was one point three points per possession.
If you're if you're like at one point per possession defensively,
that's good. It was one point three.
Speaker 1: It was way too high.
Speaker 4: You're gonna lose ninety nine percent of those games.
Speaker 5: So was it better?
Speaker 4: Well, sure, but it wasn't good. It was still bad.
I would argue Good had better effort. They were getting
after it, but they got to reband more. They got
to make more free throws, they got to make more bunnies.
You gotta have Richie and Knard not combined for two
thirteen from three. You know, you need a little more
from Rob and the assist game. But guys have to
make shots. Like AJ continues to do his thing. I
don't think we can ask much more of AJ realistically
because he doesn't want to four shots. He wants to
take good shots. So long answer to your question football
right now, just because I believe basketball will go to
the sweet sixteen, still, I just don't know about that
next game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it about this blau basketball team that
you'd like to see maybe improved upon? If you're gonna
critique and look, we're this is this is a great
basketball team and we're.
Speaker 4: Nitpicking they're good.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I think that that they've showed that they
can be elite and they can be great. They've had
some undulations, they've had some downs, especially in the first half.
What's your biggest complaint regarding this bo basketball team?
Speaker 5: Defense?
Speaker 4: Defense needs to be better. I mean they're coming off
of back to that game and in this losing streak,
they've got it that. Yeah, Kevin Young was He's the
one that said it. We didn't even have to say it,
he called. He used these words last week in reference
to his defense, abysmal, pathetic, a joke his words describing
his own defense, saying, hey, we got to be better.
Speaker 1: You got a guard.
Speaker 4: There's no scheme for when a guy goes one on
one straight line drive to the basket, that's his effort,
like you gotta you gotta defend. And so I thought
it was a better effort Saturday. But Houston is not
the game to get right, It's just not. Those guys
are crazy awesome, Like I think they're still Final four good.
They jumped up in the polls into the into you know,
they're in a two seed spot, Like.
Speaker 1: That's a two seed bu Yu.
Speaker 4: We hoped would be that team right now, they're not
bu Yu is probably a very good team still, and
granted this four game losing streak, Ben it's all quad ones.
Oklahoma State was a bad loss relatively speaking, but to
them because of the standard we have, but not to
the committee. The committee goes, okay, quad one loss, that's
not bad and they move on. You know, Oklahoma Baylor
is a Quad one opportunity.
Speaker 1: You win that, great boy.
Speaker 4: Does to be great man, I think you have to
have Quad one A wins ahead Zebo their own fives,
they're they are what four and one in Quad one B?
They can add a Quad one B with Baylor, Quad
two barelely Colorado coming up, and then it's like, all right,
Arizon and Iowa State and Texas Tech are sitting there.
Can you pull off two of those three in the
final eight? And now you walk in on selections and
then you're probably a five seed and after all of
a sudden done that's not probably as bad as we think.
Speaker 1: We just have a high standard.
Speaker 5: For this group.
Speaker 3: The expectations in life determine our happiness, and the expectations
are very high. The bar has been set very high,
and they haven't met that expectation thus far this season.
If they had beaten Houston though at home. I think
they would have level set it and I think all
is forgiven whatever shortcomings there were. Wouldn't everything have been
forgiven if they would have just beat Houston over the weekend.
Speaker 4: I think so, because then you would have had a
top ten net win. It's your best win of the season,
it's your first Quad one A. You know, it's only
what the third loss all year for Houston? I think
so does it fix all your problems?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: But does it restore you into a place of confidence
and sort of national relevance that you're seeking in trying
to be a top four seed, because that's what, boy,
you wanted in the offseason. They they scheduled to be
a top four seed, Like they looked at Arizona and said,
why are you a four and we're a six and
we have the same record in league. It's because of
non conference and so BYU an ounce scheduled better, which,
by the way, you know several of those wins continue
to be solid with Quad one B, but you have
to get some Quad one A if you're going to
be anything higher than a five, and luckily BYU has
three of those left the final eight games however harder
than the first ten games. The difference in average net
is thirty spots. And the Big Twelve scheduled this way
on purpose. They wanted February to be super compelling. Now
the football is over, who kind of owns February? Typically
it's college hoops, and then you know the NBA will
get their time in the playoffs after March madnus. But
this is this, this is the time for the Big
twelve to shine. And let's see if YU can't seize
that opportunity, because they have some great games coming up.
Speaker 3: What makes you optimistic that BYU bask can pull off
a late a February run like they did last season.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not convinced they can do what they did
last year. That was unbelievable, and the Big twelve is
better this year at the top. What I really want
is five and three in the last eight. I think
that would be tremendous because then you're ten and eight
in league and then you you look like a four
or five seed, and that's good. That's basically the same thing.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 4: People don't like the five to twelve because it's like a.
Speaker 5: Fifty to fifty proposition, but if.
Speaker 4: You're the four or five, you play the other four
or five in the second round, and then you probably
played the one in this week sixteen, So it's not
a huge difference. That's kind of my goal for this
BOI team, get to the five line and if they
happen to drop to the sixth. Historically, that's actually the
sweet spot for BA age eighty one. Last year's team
they were both six seeds.
Speaker 1: That's not the worst thing.
Speaker 3: Speaking historically, I like it a little bit of optimism
brewing at Brigham Young University. Jerem Jordan b what U
Sports Nation here on your Utah ESPN Radio network talking
some Brigham basketball, Brigham football storyline heading into springball. What
are you looking at? What are you monitoring during camp
Kolani twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Six, Yeah, RB two QB two the new defense and
thinger running at. What are the differences there kado U
Luave and what kind of difference he makes? You know,
Raider DEMONI kind of being the full time other safety
at strong with Fola tele at free, you know, backup corners.
It's really a depth conversation like a lot of people,
you know, Walker Lions, Roger Salipaga, how do they look
kind of at tight ends? These new offensive linemen? What
do they look like? A lot of times it's like,
what did the new guys look like? What does the
depth look like? I don't have questions about Bear. I
want questions about LJ, who probably won't be involved. I
assume coming back from the shoulder surgery, it's the only
MOUP play.
Speaker 1: How is he?
Speaker 4: Is he going to be healthy again? Like what does
that look like? So plenty of yeah, plenty of questions.
Number one is probably the defense with k pop and
anytime you get a new coordinator, that's probably it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. For those that you've interacted with, what are what
are the Cougar football faithful asking you about this Cougar defense,
this Cougar football team, what's been like their main question
mark surrounding the what you football? Would you say?
Speaker 4: It's kind of the you know can be why you
keep it going? Because Jay Hill's greatest strength was his memory,
his recall, his ability to go okay in this down
a distance of this part of the field. This is
what reference points he has and he would have them memorized,
like his recall was crazy.
Speaker 5: So that was his strength.
Speaker 4: So Kelly Pepinga what strength is he going to bring
having been tutored by Bronco Menenhall and Cline Stacke and
Jay Hill. The next thing is if you're like, it's
all Kelly, I would argue, it's not all Kelly. It's
it's Kelly's influences and mentors, but also Chad uh, you know,
Chad on the staff and Garry Anderson and Kolonie. Like
there's a lot of sort of backing there. It's it's
like it's like a young men man in the ward.
It's not just his dad who's the influence. It's his
school teachers and his friends. It's young men's It's like, honestly,
there's a lot of good influences around Kline or Kelly
to where I'm confident that he'll be able to pick
it up. Now what he sort of stamps as his
own sort of flavor on this defense, that's TVD, but
I'm excited.
Speaker 5: To watch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's talking about the defense, and most people feel like, hey,
this last year, the year before, we were running a
ton of forty front and now we're just going to
revert back to a Bronco Mendenhial, a Bronco Mendenhile, Brockol
Mennenhall style three four, What did you see? What have
you discussed with maybe the coaching staff about what they
were running the last couple of years and what K
Pop's going to be running this year and maybe the
seasons to come.
Speaker 4: My sense is that they like what's been working there
and then they'll probably kind of stick with a four three.
But TVD, I mean they've recruited for a four to three.
I don't see a blatant big change there. They could
always do it, but it just that that's a big
switch at this point, Like you kind of needed to
probably do that a couple months ago if you're gonna
do that, so I would be surprised if they switched that.
But yeah, what if all of a sudden it's the
three through five were like Bronco from New Mexico, What
is this? Come on?
Speaker 3: It'd be crazy. There's been crazier things that have happened
in the past, though. Jerem Jordan, Ladies and gentlemen, Jerem,
I always appreciate our time. Best way to support you
what you do, how you do it for all of
our listeners.
Speaker 5: Hey, I always say it.
Speaker 4: Benmo At no, just can keep keep listening to Ben,
keep listening to be a sports nation, keep consuming all
the content.
Speaker 1: Just beat coognation, continue to do you.
Speaker 4: You're awesome.
Speaker 1: Let's get this going, baby, Let's keep.
Speaker 3: It rolling and go high. Uh to two super Bowls
in the last almost decade. You know, it's pretty healthy.
It's pretty strong for the Hawks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, John Schneider, the GM winning with two different groups,
pretty impressive, and without Sam Darnold with quarterback as Seahawks team,
Zach Wilson, go be that next guy. That's Zach Wilson story.
Speaker 3: Let's go New England with three titles since twenty ten,
Kansas City with three titles, Seahawks with two, Philadelphia or two.
And then you have a smattering of one winners one
one season winner, Saints, Packers, Giants, Ravens, Broncos, Buccaneers, and Rams.
Maybe the Rams step up next season to win their second.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll probably not leave him out of this. No,
no Rams Niners? Well then I want to question it's
hard league.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask if he was okay with Jsing
getting Offensive Player the Year in not Pooka.
Speaker 2: But I guess, oh, yeah, no, guess I guess.
Speaker 4: That I actually wanted took him that because if it's individuals,
I like to be a guys.
Speaker 1: But if it's team hey, it's sea.
Speaker 5: Love it.
Speaker 3: Jeremy, appreciate you anthets propping on Hey, love you guys.
Much love to Jerem Jordan. Ladies and gentlemen appreciate him
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six spots and the a people or I guess over
the weekend. They are currently number twenty two in college basketball.
Where they stand in Kenpom if you want to, if
you want to align it with the A people, you
got the human subjective eye test that puts them at
number twenty two. Kenpom all so has BYU at number
twenty two in their efficiency metric seventeen and six overall,
still knocking on the door, still in the top twenty five.
Let's get at eval. Let's get a grade on the
season thus far less. Welcome to Johnathan Taberinaario four three JT,
former Boa. You great to talk to Cougar basketball. JT.
How you living? Brother?
Speaker 5: Is it football season yet?
Speaker 3: It hurts man when you're on a four game losing streak, right,
but give us some hope? Why why should Cougar Nation
have hope in this Boa basketball team that they can
get it right because.
Speaker 5: It's almost football season?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 5: Well, look listen, I will say this, right. You look
at the losses that.
Speaker 1: They've had, right, you look at the loss to number
three Yukon, and you look to the loss against number
one Arizona, and all of those those two losses could.
Speaker 5: Have been winning. And then you look at.
Speaker 1: You look at the loss of Texas Tech, and you
look at the loss to Oklahoma State, and then you
look at.
Speaker 5: The loss to Houston. Those weren't closed losses, and so
it just it.
Speaker 1: Just feels like this team hasn't had its marquee win
against the top teams in the country when they had
the chance to do it.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's a big difference. Ben if we're looking.
Speaker 1: At this BYU team five and five in conference, and
maybe we're looking at them at seven and three. Maybe
we were looking at them right at eight and two.
But the truth of the matter is this team right now,
they're tired.
Speaker 5: They are exhausted.
Speaker 1: You know, Kevin Young is saying the right things, but
I dare to say that on the back you know,
behind closed doors, the team is tired. Richie's tired, Rob
Right is tired, AJ is tired, and the just supporting
cast is just not there. Kevin was so blunt about
the big missing layups, and I mean, you know, three
four ten for the field, and you know, just an
abysmal free throw percentage that you know the last game,
and so and again, I am going to be overly
critical of the things that I was a very I
was very good at. So for instance, with three point shooting,
it isn't acceptable that Mahailovoskovic and Alexei Coastitch and Tyler
Morass are all getting the nil that they're getting and
they you know, barely shooting thirty percent from the three
point line.
Speaker 5: What are we doing here? Right?
Speaker 1: And so it's it's difficult for me to see that
and the breakdown on defense you know by even by
Caernard Davis, it's it's a lot of it.
Speaker 5: It's a head scratcher, right.
Speaker 1: Perception is reality, Like I I know, I'm going along then,
you know, one of the things I'm going to say
is perception is reality. I mean, you know, uh Ron,
mister Weaver, you're not old bed breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Because we were talking a big game before the season,
Hey at Ruby River and we're going to drive down
the canyon and go to Ruby River together to like
but like you know, like my thing is perception is reality,
and the perception is that this BYU team was going
to go to the Final.
Speaker 5: Four, and right now we would.
Speaker 1: All be surprised if they would ended up being a
five or six or a seven seed. And they have
a gauntlet of a schedule left. They have eight games left,
three year, damn against top fifteen teams in the country,
and you know, it's just one of those things that
you're like, my gosh, like you know, it may be
a while before they got another win because Baylor is
better than Oklahoma State and it's at Baylor, and so
you know, it's it's an interesting time to.
Speaker 5: Be a BYU fan right now.
Speaker 1: And I will say this, right it's an interesting time
to BYU be a BUYU fan. Fans can have all
the right in the world to be bothered, to be annoyed.
A lot of in I own money, a lot of
investment has been on the team, on the roster, and
on the staff.
Speaker 5: With all that being With all of that being said,
I can guarantee you been.
Speaker 1: The players and the staff feel it, feel it way
more than the fans do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, there's there's some pressure like we haven't
seen in the last year and a half two years, right,
We've I don't know if we've ever seen Ky really
get after this team in front of them media, like
an accountability approach. And we saw him get a little
bit salty with his bigs and even calling out AJ
to take care of his body. In the postgame saying
that he thought that AJ would look like he was
going to pass out and and that's why he ended
up selling them out and that he's gonna have to,
you know, have a little call to action with a J.
I thought it was interesting. That's the first time I
want to say that that k Why has really called
out his team and he's realizing there's probably a big
sense of urgency right now.
Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting that that he has said
the things that he said. I never seen him dad,
Like he truly looks pissed. Like you knowing Ben, you're
talking to someone and you're like, oh, geez, I caught
him in a bad moment and they may not tell
you and go, I'm pissed right now. But like he
looks like the interviews that he has done at the
coaches showing it with Spencer Linton after the game, he
is bothered and at least that's what you expect from,
you know, the number one rated coach outside of the NBA,
right And I think that's that's a great place to be,
you know. But and again I don't want to give
excuses to the team because next man up. But you know, gosh,
you know, not having Dawson and not having Nate and
not having Brody. It is hurting this team. And I think,
honestly playing I think there's just guys are tired and
you know they need some while. You know, Kevin, you
under said something that I like. He said, you know,
we're pushing through the rock. We're almost there. They just
they just got to push through.
Speaker 3: Jonathan Tevin aren't talking to b what you basketball here
on your Utah ESPN Radio network. You mentioned a few guys, right,
It's like you mentioned Tyler Maraz, Alexikosnick Mihailo Boskovic. All
three of these guys were brought in to hit a
stand three point shout of bucks other things. But like right,
it wasn't like one of the main reasons why all
three of these guys got brought in was to hit
a standing three oh.
Speaker 1: And I completely agree with you. They were brought in
to do that. They were brought in to get it done.
They're not doing it, And I honestly think that they
are just the word I'm looking for, not concerned, not cautious.
They are hesitant about doing it. And I don't know,
for the life of me why people used to tell
me to stop shooting, I would still shoot some more,
whereas these guys are, We're begging them to shoot and
they still won't shoot. And so like, I don't understand,
I really don't understand that is hurting YU right defensively
is hurting YU.
Speaker 5: They're more, They're.
Speaker 1: Scoring more than enough points to win games.
Speaker 5: You just got to figure out a way.
Speaker 1: To get stops.
Speaker 3: Who you most disappointed in right now?
Speaker 5: JT, she's been.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to dead, I'm not trying to be bad.
Speaker 6: Bet, you don't have to answer that. I started laughing
as soon as I run answer that.
Speaker 3: Don't answer that. No, I don't want I want you to.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 6: But hey, who are looking pros of you?
Speaker 3: Who who do you expect? Who do you expect to
step up next game?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: Because we're looking for supporting cast, supporting role. Who do
you who do you think is going to step up
next game?
Speaker 1: This is I'm him disappointed them the most, by the way,
So I would say I expect the more out of
Keba and more out of Uh of Abdullah, and so
I think Beato and Keba are the ones that are
a little bit because you look at the game, right,
I mean you you know, three four ten bunnies, right,
and so I think between your two bigs, you should
be able to or you know, expect at least fifty
per you know, from the.
Speaker 5: Field goal range. And then free throw has also been abysmo.
Speaker 1: That's why I think Ben now it's more of a
mental thing than anything else. And uh, you know, but
it's a battle man to More and Waco they are
you know. And I will say this, I don't know
this because yes, I'm told to the program. I know
a lot of what's going on inside there. Nobody's ever
told me this. This is my personal opinion. I think
at the end of the season, we are going to
look back and we're gonna look at the Kansas game
and the fact that Darren Peterson outplayed AJ and I
think we're gonna look at and go that was the.
Speaker 5: Turning point of the season.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna ask you both, don't make a big
deal about this quote.
Speaker 5: Don't blow it up.
Speaker 1: I don't need my Twitter blowing up on this. But
to remember this moment, I think that that's going to
be a turnaround. And again I'm telling that from a
personal feeling because A J's an amazing player.
Speaker 5: Well he's done.
Speaker 1: Is absolutely Darren Peterson looked like like a freaking superhero,
and Kansas actually looked like the cancers of old Cancers.
Didn't look like you know, you know, the Kansas that
lost the by U or the cancers of last year.
Speaker 5: It looked like the old Cansas, if you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so I think that we look back and go, gosh, danga, guys,
that was the game that that the season felt like
it went on the flip because you lost to Kansas
and then you went and lost to Arizona at home
on a quick turnaround, had a chance to win, but
you didn't. And you know, I don't even think the
Oklahoma State game is the one that we're going to.
Speaker 5: Look back to me.
Speaker 1: That was a very specific turnaround where Aj was looking
like Flawn, he was looking like a superhero. He was
looking invincible, and you know, and that's our guy, and
Darren Peterson is the you know, you know, they're not
so good guy and you know, not the number one
pig our guy is and Darren Beterson out played Aj
in CANSO's won and Darren Peters didn't even play a
lot of the second half and so it's I hope
I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: I know I'm not.
Speaker 3: Jonathan Tabnaar, are you talking some cougar hoops here on
your Utah ESPN Radio network. It's it's been an interesting season,
no doubt. And what type of seaton. Let's say they
end up five hundred in the Big twelve. Let's say
worst case scenario is BYU is five hundred in Big
twelve play, what type of seeding do you think they get?
I was starting to ken palm yes or last week
and he said, you know, if BYU go six and
four in the remaining ten games, that they're probably at worst.
I think he said four seed. Do you think you
know what I mean? That's what he said.
Speaker 1: Absolutely cool, that is that's absolutely cool cool. I think
that on the last six games, the Baylor game is tough.
I think they beat Colorado, so that's maybe, you know,
I I don't know if they beat I will stayed
at home at this point, I you know, so I
would say one, I would say, you know, they between
you know, at West Virginia and at Baylor, they'll win one.
Speaker 5: So they'll go one.
Speaker 1: And one, two and one, two and two, two and three,
three and three.
Speaker 5: As Cincinnati. Man, that's tough.
Speaker 1: And then I think in the last four games, I
think if BYU manages to go six and two, I
think that they have a chance to be five seed
at best.
Speaker 5: I think if BIU.
Speaker 1: Goes four and four or three or three and five,
by will be a seven seed.
Speaker 3: Well, there's no way. Look, I had people reaching out
to me and saying asking me, question, is this is
this team going to the NCUBLEA Tournament. I'm like, yes, Like,
what are you talking about? They're going to the NCUBLEA Tournament.
They will, they shall. When you get that question, what's
your reaction?
Speaker 5: Oh, I know for effect, they'll go to the NCAA Tournament.
Speaker 1: But again, right, we are and I'm gonna say wasting,
And because I know nobody is wasting, but imagine one
season of AJD Bonsa and where you have the number
one recruit in the country and you don't go past
the sweet sixteen. That's tough, man, you know. I think
the expectation and you and I talked about this, then
I think that if they don't go past the sweet sixteen,
I think that it wasn't a great season. Now you
can definitely paint a picture of how great of a.
Speaker 5: Season it is.
Speaker 1: But I mean, dude, do you I mean, I you
could go to the beginning of the seed of the
season before the season even started, and the three of
us going at it live, going even more at it
on our text thread. I mean, and I you know,
perception is reality in reality right now with BYU needs
to win.
Speaker 5: A lot of games. I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I say that unless they go six and two. They're
not six and two and get People are gonna call
me crazy, but that's okay. Unless BYU goes six and
two and BYU gets to the championship game of the
Big twelve Tournament, They're not going to be a four seed.
They're gonna be a five or a six seed.
Speaker 5: The best.
Speaker 3: JT for three Jonathan Tabinari, could you hit a standing
three right now? Thirty five percent of the time with
some of the looks that in the could you pick
and pop? Like can? I've got like seven attempts I
think in pick and pop situations, could you hit that?
Speaker 1: I couldn't pick and pop right now? Unfortunately I'm too overweight.
But I will say, DZ my man for the ni
O money that they're getting right now, I would get
myself in shape. Yes, and standing three, I could easily
be a good forty to fifty, especially because now I'm
more experienced now. I mean I usually mess around and
I catch and shoot, and after I worm up for
a couple of minutes and I just see the ball
go through.
Speaker 5: I usually go eight for ten.
Speaker 1: Nine out of ten. You know, last time I shot
with my boy, I think I was like forty seven
for fifty. Uh.
Speaker 5: We were having a competition because he was asking.
Speaker 1: For you know, for for a new phone and that
that that that did not go well for him, by
the way, And and so yeah, standing up, I would
be a good right now in a in a live
game easily, easily with the shape that I am right now.
Speaker 5: So I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, jt oh. Shout out to xanders Will getting his
patriarchical blessing. Uh, big news for the Tabinari family.
Speaker 1: Hey, that was special, man, I you know, that was special.
Speaker 5: You know, There's been a few special.
Speaker 1: Moments in my life, and I gotta tell you, man,
that was.
Speaker 5: That was up there. That was special, That was beautiful.
You know.
Speaker 1: It's just that he's just a great young man. And
I've told you this before. Ben you know, we're close.
We've we've known each other along and we've known our wives.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 1: You know, I and I and I don't say this
too many people, but like you and I were close
at BUYU, I was very close.
Speaker 5: I'm very close. We're very close.
Speaker 1: Still, same thing with Lee Kamar, the same thing with
Kyle Collinsworth. You know you guys. Uh, if my son
turns out to be like you know you guys, where
he is an outstanding athlete and even a better person,
a better.
Speaker 5: Man, I would I would be so lucky.
Speaker 1: And uh and so I you know, it was a
blessing and uh, you know I it's it's a lucky thing.
It's a it's a very blessing. It's a bless to
be able to be a dad and to experience those
things with your son.
Speaker 5: And God's true families.
Speaker 1: Are forever, you know, we you know, it's all I
know to be true, and it's it's a special thing.
Speaker 5: And so I appreciate, appreciate a shout out man, heck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, love and appreciate you. Happy for Xander and
your crew man. It's a big move and many blessings
will come from a JT. Much love, man, thanks for
hopping on to talk some ball.
Speaker 1: Hey, I appreciate you having me and always in forever
my men. Goko theego.
Speaker 3: There's JT for three Jonathan TABINAI talking some by U
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