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Welcome in one of 35 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,200 the voice shoes. One of the faces of b y 36 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,000 U TV and Boy SportsNation. We got Jerem Jordan online JJ. 37 00:01:39,079 --> 00:01:39,719 How that g are you man? 38 00:01:39,719 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, see hugs, Let's go Super Bowl Champs. 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,599 Speaker 3: I forget your Sea high span as a from an 40 00:01:50,719 --> 00:01:54,920 entertainment standpoint, and I know you know from NF I 41 00:01:54,959 --> 00:01:57,599 know where you stand from a fanaticism standpoint, but from 42 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,000 an entertainment standpoint, what would you create the Super Bowl 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:01,840 in twenty twenty six? 44 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: Listen, I'm a s X fan, so it was an 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,560 A plus. It was off the charts. It was elite football, honestly, 46 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:14,719 especially on defense and special teams. So it just continues 47 00:02:14,759 --> 00:02:17,759 to show that. And by went this way this last year, right, Hey, 48 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,159 liking it unto us? Get in there and make it 49 00:02:20,199 --> 00:02:23,080 about you. Yes, hey, if you can play defense and 50 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:26,800 run the football, that's winning football. Like spreading the field, 51 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:35,240 speed stuff, tempo, deep throat. Yes, you should mix in explosives. 52 00:02:35,319 --> 00:02:37,879 You need explosive, But what we saw from the Seahawks 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,520 is winning football. And BYU won twelve games last year 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,319 because they had a great defense and a great run game. 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,599 And that's where it's at. Tim Darnold didn't have to 56 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:48,680 do Jack squat yesterday. And you know, if you can 57 00:02:49,039 --> 00:02:50,759 make it where Bear doesn't have to do a ton 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,599 of LJ carries a big load and the run game 59 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,240 and the defense does that thing. Now we're talking about 60 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,680 maybe you always back in Arlington kind of kind of bobs. 61 00:02:58,719 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 5: That's what I took away from it. 62 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:02,599 Speaker 4: But I understand if people didn't enjoy it because it 63 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,039 was never actually that close, you know, but it was 64 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:08,120 just nice. I think America wanted to see the Patriots lose, 65 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:08,439 you know. 66 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: Did they Is that what they want? Is that what 67 00:03:10,599 --> 00:03:12,240 America wants? 68 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,879 Speaker 4: The Niners fans are like, no, Seahawks need to lose, 69 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,479 because it was great to beat not only the Patriots, 70 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,639 but do it on the Niners field like that is 71 00:03:19,719 --> 00:03:22,280 can you imagine by you like, winning a title on 72 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,240 Utah's field. 73 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:24,439 Speaker 5: That's what happened yesterday. 74 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: Pretty impressive. Indeed, I thought it was entertaining. It was 75 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:31,080 born to some I'm a defensive guy. I like to 76 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,080 see pitchers duels, you know. I like to see defensive execution, 77 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,560 the physicality and the trenches, the trench warfare. I thought 78 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,840 it was. It was a great game. And look, let's 79 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:45,960 be honest, though, the true super Bowl was the Seahawks 80 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:48,479 versus the Rams, right, yep, yep. 81 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 4: Winner was gonna win that like if yeah, if the 82 00:03:51,159 --> 00:03:54,680 Rams had gone, Pokinako would be celebrating having a ring 83 00:03:54,719 --> 00:03:55,159 this morning. 84 00:03:55,199 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 5: For sure. 85 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: You feel for Tyrus though I thought Kiris had a 86 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:01,319 tremendous season. He's in your five. I believe of his 87 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,639 NFL career and and man, he's lean and explosive and 88 00:04:05,919 --> 00:04:07,919 definitely a high contributor right now for one of the 89 00:04:07,919 --> 00:04:09,759 best defenses in the NFL. 90 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:13,159 Speaker 5: Is he lean? 91 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,399 Speaker 4: I think I'm telling you. 92 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you, dude, he's he's leaner, like he 93 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:20,959 has good weight on him. He is like the Tiris 94 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,759 that you knew, you know what I'm telling you. Like, 95 00:04:24,439 --> 00:04:27,879 he's different. He's built different now, he's got more bend 96 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,800 in the hips, he's more explosive. He's not just a 97 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,680 big body anymore. He's he's explosives now. 98 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,519 Speaker 4: That's great and and probably it has to be if 99 00:04:37,519 --> 00:04:39,639 they're gonna put him in a fullback. I don't think 100 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:41,759 they did in a single time yesterday, right I was 101 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:46,000 looking forward to him being the fridge, maybe getting like 102 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,639 a carry there near the goal line at b Why 103 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:52,439 he did that against Idaho States. As we recall, we 104 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,439 had clients taking on the show last week and we 105 00:04:55,519 --> 00:04:57,680 brought up this idea and he said, he's more like 106 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,240 the freezer. And we were hoping that he would get 107 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,879 a carry in the super Bowl, but the Seahawks are like, Nope, 108 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,199 if you're gonna score, you can do it. 109 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:05,879 Speaker 5: From whalet there. 110 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,759 Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, congratulations to uh everybody that got to participate 111 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,639 in the Super Bowl. We always like to see cougar's 112 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:16,680 in the pros in those Super Bowl games. And in 113 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,759 the modern era, right Kansas City has been dominated. Is 114 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,839 the Andy Reid dominants? Is it? Is it dwindling? Is 115 00:05:24,879 --> 00:05:27,040 it falling away? Or We're not going to see Andy 116 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:29,319 in the super Bowl in the foreseeable future. 117 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:34,519 Speaker 4: I mean probably not because Pat Mahomes come back, comes 118 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,160 back next year and he got it what mid to 119 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,800 late part of the year, Like he's not gonna be 120 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,160 a hundred hundred percent per. 121 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:42,519 Speaker 5: Say, like it. 122 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,759 Speaker 4: It could be difficult, you know. Is Travis Kelsey gonna retire? 123 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:48,439 Is he gonna come back? He's a little older, like 124 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,759 you got a new OC and whatnot. So what's what's 125 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:52,399 gonna happen there? 126 00:05:52,399 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 5: I don't know. 127 00:05:52,759 --> 00:05:55,199 Speaker 4: Andy the great coach though, like at some at some 128 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:59,160 point Andy built off of what he learned from LaBelle 129 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:02,079 and became a better coach than level, which is incredible, 130 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,120 right at the highest level, which is what you want, 131 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,720 like you want to, uh, you know, have your children 132 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,399 have a better life than you, Like Lavell helped make 133 00:06:11,439 --> 00:06:14,639 a bunch of coaches that have done great things and 134 00:06:14,879 --> 00:06:17,079 a bunch of guys just thinking about the NFL perspective, 135 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:19,680 Brian Billick, Mike Holmgren, Andy Reid, and so on and 136 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,560 so forth. So it's fun to see those guys succeed 137 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:23,560 at the next next level. 138 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 5: It's very cool. 139 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: It's it's part of Lavell's legacy is that Andy Reid 140 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,079 has been who he's been. 141 00:06:28,959 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: Love that JJ. One of the things we've been discussing 142 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:35,480 today is UH with A with a recency bias poll. 143 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:40,399 These are my favorite because they've it's been so dominant. 144 00:06:40,439 --> 00:06:42,920 It's been kind of lopsided towards basketball over the last 145 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,000 two years. But I'm asking the question, you know what, 146 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,439 what are you more optimistic about right now? The future 147 00:06:48,439 --> 00:06:50,720 of BAU basketball for the fir see of a future 148 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,279 or BAU football. Where do you stand? Which one are 149 00:06:53,319 --> 00:06:54,279 you more optimistic about? 150 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? 151 00:06:54,879 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 4: That is a that is a great end. Listen, you 152 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,879 and I are in the same business. We got content 153 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:59,720 every day to put out. 154 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: You know, is. 155 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: Has the longest losing streak in three years? 156 00:07:07,439 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: Of that question? 157 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,319 Speaker 4: Of course, it's it's kicking them while they're down. 158 00:07:11,399 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 5: No, I get it. 159 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,639 Speaker 4: Though, Look, football, it's hard not to be excited about 160 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,480 football with everybody that returns, and we don't know what 161 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,000 they're gonna do next year. If you ask this in 162 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,720 the middle of a three game losing streak in Big 163 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:25,480 till play next year for football, if they had that, like, yeah, 164 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,399 that's easy to say, Well, basketball, maybe it's hard. It's 165 00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:31,279 hard right now too, because the thing with men's basketball 166 00:07:31,399 --> 00:07:34,240 is they don't have a lot of different cards they 167 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:38,160 can play that aren't currently in the hand. Like last 168 00:07:38,199 --> 00:07:39,680 year it was okay. 169 00:07:39,519 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 5: They have a deep bench, they have down. 170 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:43,839 Speaker 4: A poost there you can always mix match that you're 171 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:48,399 starting with witmag over cannon catchings. That everything changes what's 172 00:07:48,439 --> 00:07:51,439 boy men's basketball is supposed to do. They don't have 173 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,279 a card to play. They're the only card they could 174 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,160 really play is starting Boop over Canard Davis. But then 175 00:07:57,199 --> 00:08:01,560 do you lose Canard completely? Like right now is not 176 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,360 shooting great from three outside of the second alfriganst Arizona, 177 00:08:04,399 --> 00:08:08,399 he's been abysmal. And then By's defense. It felt better 178 00:08:09,079 --> 00:08:11,680 against Houston than Oklahoma State, but honestly, it wasn't that 179 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:13,920 much better. It was one point three points per possession. 180 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,519 If you're if you're like at one point per possession defensively, 181 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,759 that's good. It was one point three. 182 00:08:19,839 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: It was way too high. 183 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: You're gonna lose ninety nine percent of those games. 184 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:23,839 Speaker 5: So was it better? 185 00:08:23,959 --> 00:08:26,399 Speaker 4: Well, sure, but it wasn't good. It was still bad. 186 00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:29,040 I would argue Good had better effort. They were getting 187 00:08:29,079 --> 00:08:31,079 after it, but they got to reband more. They got 188 00:08:31,079 --> 00:08:33,039 to make more free throws, they got to make more bunnies. 189 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,840 You gotta have Richie and Knard not combined for two 190 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,279 thirteen from three. You know, you need a little more 191 00:08:39,279 --> 00:08:41,399 from Rob and the assist game. But guys have to 192 00:08:41,399 --> 00:08:44,120 make shots. Like AJ continues to do his thing. I 193 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,679 don't think we can ask much more of AJ realistically 194 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,399 because he doesn't want to four shots. He wants to 195 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,840 take good shots. So long answer to your question football 196 00:08:52,919 --> 00:08:55,759 right now, just because I believe basketball will go to 197 00:08:55,759 --> 00:08:58,000 the sweet sixteen, still, I just don't know about that 198 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:58,519 next game. 199 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, what is it about this blau basketball team that 200 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,399 you'd like to see maybe improved upon? If you're gonna 201 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:09,440 critique and look, we're this is this is a great 202 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,240 basketball team and we're. 203 00:09:12,039 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 4: Nitpicking they're good. 204 00:09:14,799 --> 00:09:18,799 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I think that that they've showed that they 205 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,879 can be elite and they can be great. They've had 206 00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:24,320 some undulations, they've had some downs, especially in the first half. 207 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,039 What's your biggest complaint regarding this bo basketball team? 208 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:28,919 Speaker 5: Defense? 209 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: Defense needs to be better. I mean they're coming off 210 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,799 of back to that game and in this losing streak, 211 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,200 they've got it that. Yeah, Kevin Young was He's the 212 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,279 one that said it. We didn't even have to say it, 213 00:09:41,639 --> 00:09:44,360 he called. He used these words last week in reference 214 00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:50,919 to his defense, abysmal, pathetic, a joke his words describing 215 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:53,559 his own defense, saying, hey, we got to be better. 216 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,159 Speaker 1: You got a guard. 217 00:09:54,279 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: There's no scheme for when a guy goes one on 218 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,960 one straight line drive to the basket, that's his effort, 219 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,840 like you gotta you gotta defend. And so I thought 220 00:10:01,879 --> 00:10:04,639 it was a better effort Saturday. But Houston is not 221 00:10:04,799 --> 00:10:08,240 the game to get right, It's just not. Those guys 222 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,360 are crazy awesome, Like I think they're still Final four good. 223 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:15,200 They jumped up in the polls into the into you know, 224 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,000 they're in a two seed spot, Like. 225 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,639 Speaker 1: That's a two seed bu Yu. 226 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,399 Speaker 4: We hoped would be that team right now, they're not 227 00:10:21,639 --> 00:10:24,639 bu Yu is probably a very good team still, and 228 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,679 granted this four game losing streak, Ben it's all quad ones. 229 00:10:27,799 --> 00:10:31,720 Oklahoma State was a bad loss relatively speaking, but to 230 00:10:31,759 --> 00:10:34,960 them because of the standard we have, but not to 231 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,840 the committee. The committee goes, okay, quad one loss, that's 232 00:10:37,879 --> 00:10:41,720 not bad and they move on. You know, Oklahoma Baylor 233 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,200 is a Quad one opportunity. 234 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: You win that, great boy. 235 00:10:45,039 --> 00:10:46,799 Speaker 4: Does to be great man, I think you have to 236 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,360 have Quad one A wins ahead Zebo their own fives, 237 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,279 they're they are what four and one in Quad one B? 238 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,919 They can add a Quad one B with Baylor, Quad 239 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,399 two barelely Colorado coming up, and then it's like, all right, 240 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,799 Arizon and Iowa State and Texas Tech are sitting there. 241 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,360 Can you pull off two of those three in the 242 00:11:05,399 --> 00:11:08,120 final eight? And now you walk in on selections and 243 00:11:08,159 --> 00:11:11,600 then you're probably a five seed and after all of 244 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:14,519 a sudden done that's not probably as bad as we think. 245 00:11:14,639 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: We just have a high standard. 246 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:16,519 Speaker 5: For this group. 247 00:11:17,759 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: The expectations in life determine our happiness, and the expectations 248 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,120 are very high. The bar has been set very high, 249 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,279 and they haven't met that expectation thus far this season. 250 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,799 If they had beaten Houston though at home. I think 251 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,720 they would have level set it and I think all 252 00:11:34,799 --> 00:11:39,320 is forgiven whatever shortcomings there were. Wouldn't everything have been 253 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,399 forgiven if they would have just beat Houston over the weekend. 254 00:11:44,039 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 4: I think so, because then you would have had a 255 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,879 top ten net win. It's your best win of the season, 256 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,000 it's your first Quad one A. You know, it's only 257 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,159 what the third loss all year for Houston? I think 258 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,600 so does it fix all your problems? 259 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:01,039 Speaker 5: No? 260 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 4: But does it restore you into a place of confidence 261 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,080 and sort of national relevance that you're seeking in trying 262 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,200 to be a top four seed, because that's what, boy, 263 00:12:10,279 --> 00:12:13,440 you wanted in the offseason. They they scheduled to be 264 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,039 a top four seed, Like they looked at Arizona and said, 265 00:12:17,039 --> 00:12:19,360 why are you a four and we're a six and 266 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,639 we have the same record in league. It's because of 267 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,279 non conference and so BYU an ounce scheduled better, which, 268 00:12:25,399 --> 00:12:28,279 by the way, you know several of those wins continue 269 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:31,039 to be solid with Quad one B, but you have 270 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,720 to get some Quad one A if you're going to 271 00:12:32,759 --> 00:12:36,600 be anything higher than a five, and luckily BYU has 272 00:12:36,759 --> 00:12:40,480 three of those left the final eight games however harder 273 00:12:40,519 --> 00:12:43,279 than the first ten games. The difference in average net 274 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:46,879 is thirty spots. And the Big Twelve scheduled this way 275 00:12:46,919 --> 00:12:50,320 on purpose. They wanted February to be super compelling. Now 276 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,279 the football is over, who kind of owns February? Typically 277 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,759 it's college hoops, and then you know the NBA will 278 00:12:56,759 --> 00:12:59,000 get their time in the playoffs after March madnus. But 279 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,799 this is this, this is the time for the Big 280 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,120 twelve to shine. And let's see if YU can't seize 281 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,120 that opportunity, because they have some great games coming up. 282 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: What makes you optimistic that BYU bask can pull off 283 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,399 a late a February run like they did last season. 284 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,639 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not convinced they can do what they did 285 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,200 last year. That was unbelievable, and the Big twelve is 286 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,919 better this year at the top. What I really want 287 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,879 is five and three in the last eight. I think 288 00:13:22,919 --> 00:13:25,320 that would be tremendous because then you're ten and eight 289 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,240 in league and then you you look like a four 290 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,879 or five seed, and that's good. That's basically the same thing. 291 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 5: I know. 292 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: People don't like the five to twelve because it's like a. 293 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,399 Speaker 5: Fifty to fifty proposition, but if. 294 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 4: You're the four or five, you play the other four 295 00:13:38,159 --> 00:13:39,799 or five in the second round, and then you probably 296 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,399 played the one in this week sixteen, So it's not 297 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,679 a huge difference. That's kind of my goal for this 298 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:46,559 BOI team, get to the five line and if they 299 00:13:46,639 --> 00:13:49,600 happen to drop to the sixth. Historically, that's actually the 300 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,919 sweet spot for BA age eighty one. Last year's team 301 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,000 they were both six seeds. 302 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,159 Speaker 1: That's not the worst thing. 303 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: Speaking historically, I like it a little bit of optimism 304 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,200 brewing at Brigham Young University. Jerem Jordan b what U 305 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,039 Sports Nation here on your Utah ESPN Radio network talking 306 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:11,080 some Brigham basketball, Brigham football storyline heading into springball. What 307 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,320 are you looking at? What are you monitoring during camp 308 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,759 Kolani twenty twenty. 309 00:14:15,639 --> 00:14:22,919 Speaker 4: Six, Yeah, RB two QB two the new defense and 310 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,600 thinger running at. What are the differences there kado U 311 00:14:26,679 --> 00:14:30,279 Luave and what kind of difference he makes? You know, 312 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,240 Raider DEMONI kind of being the full time other safety 313 00:14:34,559 --> 00:14:38,559 at strong with Fola tele at free, you know, backup corners. 314 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,120 It's really a depth conversation like a lot of people, 315 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,039 you know, Walker Lions, Roger Salipaga, how do they look 316 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,120 kind of at tight ends? These new offensive linemen? What 317 00:14:47,159 --> 00:14:48,919 do they look like? A lot of times it's like, 318 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,679 what did the new guys look like? What does the 319 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,279 depth look like? I don't have questions about Bear. I 320 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,399 want questions about LJ, who probably won't be involved. I 321 00:14:56,799 --> 00:14:59,360 assume coming back from the shoulder surgery, it's the only 322 00:14:59,399 --> 00:14:59,919 MOUP play. 323 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: How is he? 324 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: Is he going to be healthy again? Like what does 325 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,120 that look like? So plenty of yeah, plenty of questions. 326 00:15:06,519 --> 00:15:08,759 Number one is probably the defense with k pop and 327 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:11,200 anytime you get a new coordinator, that's probably it. 328 00:15:12,679 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. For those that you've interacted with, what are what 329 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,080 are the Cougar football faithful asking you about this Cougar defense, 330 00:15:21,879 --> 00:15:25,399 this Cougar football team, what's been like their main question 331 00:15:25,559 --> 00:15:27,759 mark surrounding the what you football? Would you say? 332 00:15:29,279 --> 00:15:32,159 Speaker 4: It's kind of the you know can be why you 333 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:38,080 keep it going? Because Jay Hill's greatest strength was his memory, 334 00:15:38,399 --> 00:15:42,159 his recall, his ability to go okay in this down 335 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,519 a distance of this part of the field. This is 336 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,200 what reference points he has and he would have them memorized, 337 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,600 like his recall was crazy. 338 00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:51,559 Speaker 5: So that was his strength. 339 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: So Kelly Pepinga what strength is he going to bring 340 00:15:54,519 --> 00:15:59,039 having been tutored by Bronco Menenhall and Cline Stacke and 341 00:15:59,159 --> 00:16:02,080 Jay Hill. The next thing is if you're like, it's 342 00:16:02,159 --> 00:16:04,759 all Kelly, I would argue, it's not all Kelly. It's 343 00:16:04,799 --> 00:16:09,840 it's Kelly's influences and mentors, but also Chad uh, you know, 344 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,960 Chad on the staff and Garry Anderson and Kolonie. Like 345 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:16,960 there's a lot of sort of backing there. It's it's 346 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,399 like it's like a young men man in the ward. 347 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,399 It's not just his dad who's the influence. It's his 348 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,600 school teachers and his friends. It's young men's It's like, honestly, 349 00:16:24,679 --> 00:16:27,200 there's a lot of good influences around Kline or Kelly 350 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,639 to where I'm confident that he'll be able to pick 351 00:16:29,639 --> 00:16:32,480 it up. Now what he sort of stamps as his 352 00:16:32,559 --> 00:16:35,480 own sort of flavor on this defense, that's TVD, but 353 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:36,240 I'm excited. 354 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 5: To watch it. 355 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone's talking about the defense, and most people feel like, hey, 356 00:16:40,879 --> 00:16:43,679 this last year, the year before, we were running a 357 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,120 ton of forty front and now we're just going to 358 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,600 revert back to a Bronco Mendenhial, a Bronco Mendenhile, Brockol 359 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,000 Mennenhall style three four, What did you see? What have 360 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,679 you discussed with maybe the coaching staff about what they 361 00:16:57,679 --> 00:16:59,320 were running the last couple of years and what K 362 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,840 Pop's going to be running this year and maybe the 363 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,559 seasons to come. 364 00:17:03,799 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 4: My sense is that they like what's been working there 365 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:08,640 and then they'll probably kind of stick with a four three. 366 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,880 But TVD, I mean they've recruited for a four to three. 367 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,720 I don't see a blatant big change there. They could 368 00:17:14,759 --> 00:17:17,519 always do it, but it just that that's a big 369 00:17:17,559 --> 00:17:20,359 switch at this point, Like you kind of needed to 370 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,359 probably do that a couple months ago if you're gonna 371 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,519 do that, so I would be surprised if they switched that. 372 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:28,279 But yeah, what if all of a sudden it's the 373 00:17:28,279 --> 00:17:30,880 three through five were like Bronco from New Mexico, What 374 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:32,000 is this? Come on? 375 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 3: It'd be crazy. There's been crazier things that have happened 376 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,400 in the past, though. Jerem Jordan, Ladies and gentlemen, Jerem, 377 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:41,559 I always appreciate our time. Best way to support you 378 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:42,799 what you do, how you do it for all of 379 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:43,920 our listeners. 380 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:47,319 Speaker 5: Hey, I always say it. 381 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,839 Speaker 4: Benmo At no, just can keep keep listening to Ben, 382 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,880 keep listening to be a sports nation, keep consuming all 383 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:54,480 the content. 384 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,519 Speaker 1: Just beat coognation, continue to do you. 385 00:17:56,279 --> 00:17:57,079 Speaker 4: You're awesome. 386 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: Let's get this going, baby, Let's keep. 387 00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 3: It rolling and go high. Uh to two super Bowls 388 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:07,799 in the last almost decade. You know, it's pretty healthy. 389 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,000 It's pretty strong for the Hawks. 390 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, John Schneider, the GM winning with two different groups, 391 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,960 pretty impressive, and without Sam Darnold with quarterback as Seahawks team, 392 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:21,039 Zach Wilson, go be that next guy. That's Zach Wilson story. 393 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 3: Let's go New England with three titles since twenty ten, 394 00:18:24,839 --> 00:18:28,519 Kansas City with three titles, Seahawks with two, Philadelphia or two. 395 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:31,640 And then you have a smattering of one winners one 396 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,480 one season winner, Saints, Packers, Giants, Ravens, Broncos, Buccaneers, and Rams. 397 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,880 Maybe the Rams step up next season to win their second. 398 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: Oh, I'll probably not leave him out of this. No, 399 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:46,359 no Rams Niners? Well then I want to question it's 400 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:46,960 hard league. 401 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask if he was okay with Jsing 402 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,839 getting Offensive Player the Year in not Pooka. 403 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: But I guess, oh, yeah, no, guess I guess. 404 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 4: That I actually wanted took him that because if it's individuals, 405 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,279 I like to be a guys. 406 00:18:57,279 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: But if it's team hey, it's sea. 407 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 5: Love it. 408 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: Jeremy, appreciate you anthets propping on Hey, love you guys. 409 00:19:04,599 --> 00:19:08,000 Much love to Jerem Jordan. Ladies and gentlemen appreciate him 410 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,400 hopping off for a little Cougar beat. 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Check out all 460 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,480 of the fine twine linards at Primo Golf Premo Golf 461 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,039 Apparel dot Com. By you Men's basketball earlier today drop 462 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,680 six spots and the a people or I guess over 463 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,759 the weekend. They are currently number twenty two in college basketball. 464 00:21:47,799 --> 00:21:51,119 Where they stand in Kenpom if you want to, if 465 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,680 you want to align it with the A people, you 466 00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:57,279 got the human subjective eye test that puts them at 467 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,640 number twenty two. Kenpom all so has BYU at number 468 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,559 twenty two in their efficiency metric seventeen and six overall, 469 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,839 still knocking on the door, still in the top twenty five. 470 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,000 Let's get at eval. Let's get a grade on the 471 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,599 season thus far less. Welcome to Johnathan Taberinaario four three JT, 472 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:18,079 former Boa. You great to talk to Cougar basketball. JT. 473 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:18,920 How you living? Brother? 474 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,279 Speaker 5: Is it football season yet? 475 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: It hurts man when you're on a four game losing streak, right, 476 00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:28,000 but give us some hope? Why why should Cougar Nation 477 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,960 have hope in this Boa basketball team that they can 478 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,359 get it right because. 479 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 5: It's almost football season? 480 00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: Man? 481 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 5: Well, look listen, I will say this, right. You look 482 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,079 at the losses that. 483 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,279 Speaker 1: They've had, right, you look at the loss to number 484 00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:53,160 three Yukon, and you look to the loss against number 485 00:22:53,200 --> 00:23:00,519 one Arizona, and all of those those two losses could. 486 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 5: Have been winning. And then you look at. 487 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: You look at the loss of Texas Tech, and you 488 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:12,240 look at the loss to Oklahoma State, and then you 489 00:23:12,319 --> 00:23:12,759 look at. 490 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 5: The loss to Houston. Those weren't closed losses, and so 491 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,279 it just it. 492 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: Just feels like this team hasn't had its marquee win 493 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:29,799 against the top teams in the country when they had 494 00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:30,759 the chance to do it. 495 00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:35,079 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a big difference. Ben if we're looking. 496 00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: At this BYU team five and five in conference, and 497 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,799 maybe we're looking at them at seven and three. Maybe 498 00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:44,279 we were looking at them right at eight and two. 499 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,440 But the truth of the matter is this team right now, 500 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,279 they're tired. 501 00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 5: They are exhausted. 502 00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: You know, Kevin Young is saying the right things, but 503 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,559 I dare to say that on the back you know, 504 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,759 behind closed doors, the team is tired. Richie's tired, Rob 505 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:11,200 Right is tired, AJ is tired, and the just supporting 506 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:16,200 cast is just not there. Kevin was so blunt about 507 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,319 the big missing layups, and I mean, you know, three 508 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,000 four ten for the field, and you know, just an 509 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:26,079 abysmal free throw percentage that you know the last game, 510 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,359 and so and again, I am going to be overly 511 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,880 critical of the things that I was a very I 512 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,759 was very good at. So for instance, with three point shooting, 513 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,240 it isn't acceptable that Mahailovoskovic and Alexei Coastitch and Tyler 514 00:24:43,319 --> 00:24:47,119 Morass are all getting the nil that they're getting and 515 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,920 they you know, barely shooting thirty percent from the three 516 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,720 point line. 517 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,319 Speaker 5: What are we doing here? Right? 518 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: And so it's it's difficult for me to see that 519 00:24:57,839 --> 00:25:01,920 and the breakdown on defense you know by even by 520 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,799 Caernard Davis, it's it's a lot of it. 521 00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 5: It's a head scratcher, right. 522 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,559 Speaker 1: Perception is reality, Like I I know, I'm going along then, 523 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,480 you know, one of the things I'm going to say 524 00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:16,839 is perception is reality. I mean, you know, uh Ron, 525 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:21,000 mister Weaver, you're not old bed breakfast, lunch and dinner. 526 00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:24,160 Because we were talking a big game before the season, 527 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,400 Hey at Ruby River and we're going to drive down 528 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:36,319 the canyon and go to Ruby River together to like 529 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:41,880 but like you know, like my thing is perception is reality, 530 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,319 and the perception is that this BYU team was going 531 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,559 to go to the Final. 532 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,599 Speaker 5: Four, and right now we would. 533 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,599 Speaker 1: All be surprised if they would ended up being a 534 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,599 five or six or a seven seed. And they have 535 00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:58,720 a gauntlet of a schedule left. They have eight games left, 536 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,359 three year, damn against top fifteen teams in the country, 537 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:06,240 and you know, it's just one of those things that 538 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,559 you're like, my gosh, like you know, it may be 539 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,480 a while before they got another win because Baylor is 540 00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:16,640 better than Oklahoma State and it's at Baylor, and so 541 00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:20,359 you know, it's it's an interesting time to. 542 00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:21,839 Speaker 5: Be a BYU fan right now. 543 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: And I will say this, right it's an interesting time 544 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,799 to BYU be a BUYU fan. Fans can have all 545 00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:31,440 the right in the world to be bothered, to be annoyed. 546 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,480 A lot of in I own money, a lot of 547 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:35,799 investment has been on the team, on the roster, and 548 00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:36,559 on the staff. 549 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,759 Speaker 5: With all that being With all of that being said, 550 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,720 I can guarantee you been. 551 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: The players and the staff feel it, feel it way 552 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,119 more than the fans do. 553 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, there's there's some pressure like we haven't 554 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,440 seen in the last year and a half two years, right, 555 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,480 We've I don't know if we've ever seen Ky really 556 00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:01,279 get after this team in front of them media, like 557 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,240 an accountability approach. And we saw him get a little 558 00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:08,599 bit salty with his bigs and even calling out AJ 559 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:12,119 to take care of his body. In the postgame saying 560 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,480 that he thought that AJ would look like he was 561 00:27:14,519 --> 00:27:16,839 going to pass out and and that's why he ended 562 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,400 up selling them out and that he's gonna have to, 563 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,279 you know, have a little call to action with a J. 564 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,400 I thought it was interesting. That's the first time I 565 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,799 want to say that that k Why has really called 566 00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:32,319 out his team and he's realizing there's probably a big 567 00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:33,480 sense of urgency right now. 568 00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting that that he has said 569 00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:41,559 the things that he said. I never seen him dad, 570 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,720 Like he truly looks pissed. Like you knowing Ben, you're 571 00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:48,000 talking to someone and you're like, oh, geez, I caught 572 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:50,519 him in a bad moment and they may not tell 573 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:53,839 you and go, I'm pissed right now. But like he 574 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,640 looks like the interviews that he has done at the 575 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,920 coaches showing it with Spencer Linton after the game, he 576 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,119 is bothered and at least that's what you expect from, 577 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,680 you know, the number one rated coach outside of the NBA, 578 00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:11,079 right And I think that's that's a great place to be, 579 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,480 you know. But and again I don't want to give 580 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:19,920 excuses to the team because next man up. But you know, gosh, 581 00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:25,160 you know, not having Dawson and not having Nate and 582 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,000 not having Brody. It is hurting this team. And I think, 583 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:32,160 honestly playing I think there's just guys are tired and 584 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,599 you know they need some while. You know, Kevin, you 585 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,400 under said something that I like. He said, you know, 586 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,119 we're pushing through the rock. We're almost there. They just 587 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,359 they just got to push through. 588 00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:46,039 Speaker 3: Jonathan Tevin aren't talking to b what you basketball here 589 00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:49,680 on your Utah ESPN Radio network. You mentioned a few guys, right, 590 00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:56,400 It's like you mentioned Tyler Maraz, Alexikosnick Mihailo Boskovic. All 591 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,559 three of these guys were brought in to hit a 592 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,720 stand three point shout of bucks other things. But like right, 593 00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:04,400 it wasn't like one of the main reasons why all 594 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,640 three of these guys got brought in was to hit 595 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,480 a standing three oh. 596 00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:14,359 Speaker 1: And I completely agree with you. They were brought in 597 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,599 to do that. They were brought in to get it done. 598 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,599 They're not doing it, And I honestly think that they 599 00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:24,359 are just the word I'm looking for, not concerned, not cautious. 600 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,160 They are hesitant about doing it. And I don't know, 601 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,920 for the life of me why people used to tell 602 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,000 me to stop shooting, I would still shoot some more, 603 00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:37,079 whereas these guys are, We're begging them to shoot and 604 00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:40,799 they still won't shoot. And so like, I don't understand, 605 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,519 I really don't understand that is hurting YU right defensively 606 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,440 is hurting YU. 607 00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 5: They're more, They're. 608 00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: Scoring more than enough points to win games. 609 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,759 Speaker 5: You just got to figure out a way. 610 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: To get stops. 611 00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: Who you most disappointed in right now? 612 00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:58,759 Speaker 5: JT, she's been. 613 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:02,839 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to dead, I'm not trying to be bad. 614 00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:07,799 Speaker 6: Bet, you don't have to answer that. I started laughing 615 00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:15,720 as soon as I run answer that. 616 00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:17,519 Speaker 3: Don't answer that. No, I don't want I want you to. 617 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,079 Speaker 5: No. 618 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 6: But hey, who are looking pros of you? 619 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: Who who do you expect? Who do you expect to 620 00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:29,799 step up next game? 621 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 5: Right? 622 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,839 Speaker 3: Because we're looking for supporting cast, supporting role. Who do 623 00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:35,319 you who do you think is going to step up 624 00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:35,799 next game? 625 00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: This is I'm him disappointed them the most, by the way, 626 00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:42,720 So I would say I expect the more out of 627 00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:46,519 Keba and more out of Uh of Abdullah, and so 628 00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,759 I think Beato and Keba are the ones that are 629 00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,119 a little bit because you look at the game, right, 630 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,240 I mean you you know, three four ten bunnies, right, 631 00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:59,319 and so I think between your two bigs, you should 632 00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:02,400 be able to or you know, expect at least fifty 633 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,359 per you know, from the. 634 00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:07,799 Speaker 5: Field goal range. And then free throw has also been abysmo. 635 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: That's why I think Ben now it's more of a 636 00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:15,039 mental thing than anything else. And uh, you know, but 637 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,240 it's a battle man to More and Waco they are 638 00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:24,119 you know. And I will say this, I don't know 639 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,359 this because yes, I'm told to the program. I know 640 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,240 a lot of what's going on inside there. Nobody's ever 641 00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:36,200 told me this. This is my personal opinion. I think 642 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,119 at the end of the season, we are going to 643 00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,920 look back and we're gonna look at the Kansas game 644 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,599 and the fact that Darren Peterson outplayed AJ and I 645 00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:49,279 think we're gonna look at and go that was the. 646 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 5: Turning point of the season. 647 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:53,839 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna ask you both, don't make a big 648 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:54,880 deal about this quote. 649 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,279 Speaker 5: Don't blow it up. 650 00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't need my Twitter blowing up on this. But 651 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,799 to remember this moment, I think that that's going to 652 00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:06,160 be a turnaround. And again I'm telling that from a 653 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,279 personal feeling because A J's an amazing player. 654 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 5: Well he's done. 655 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: Is absolutely Darren Peterson looked like like a freaking superhero, 656 00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:21,039 and Kansas actually looked like the cancers of old Cancers. 657 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:24,400 Didn't look like you know, you know, the Kansas that 658 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,640 lost the by U or the cancers of last year. 659 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,559 Speaker 5: It looked like the old Cansas, if you know what 660 00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:30,039 I'm saying. 661 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:35,759 Speaker 1: And so I think that we look back and go, gosh, danga, guys, 662 00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:40,160 that was the game that that the season felt like 663 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,039 it went on the flip because you lost to Kansas 664 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,000 and then you went and lost to Arizona at home 665 00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,960 on a quick turnaround, had a chance to win, but 666 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:52,079 you didn't. And you know, I don't even think the 667 00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:54,000 Oklahoma State game is the one that we're going to. 668 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 5: Look back to me. 669 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,319 Speaker 1: That was a very specific turnaround where Aj was looking 670 00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:03,079 like Flawn, he was looking like a superhero. He was 671 00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:07,200 looking invincible, and you know, and that's our guy, and 672 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,240 Darren Peterson is the you know, you know, they're not 673 00:33:11,319 --> 00:33:13,880 so good guy and you know, not the number one 674 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,359 pig our guy is and Darren Beterson out played Aj 675 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,200 in CANSO's won and Darren Peters didn't even play a 676 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,519 lot of the second half and so it's I hope 677 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:25,039 I'm wrong. 678 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:25,839 Speaker 5: I know I'm not. 679 00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:30,359 Speaker 3: Jonathan Tabnaar, are you talking some cougar hoops here on 680 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,319 your Utah ESPN Radio network. It's it's been an interesting season, 681 00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:39,079 no doubt. And what type of seaton. Let's say they 682 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,279 end up five hundred in the Big twelve. Let's say 683 00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:45,279 worst case scenario is BYU is five hundred in Big 684 00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:49,039 twelve play, what type of seeding do you think they get? 685 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,359 I was starting to ken palm yes or last week 686 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,279 and he said, you know, if BYU go six and 687 00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:59,319 four in the remaining ten games, that they're probably at worst. 688 00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:03,359 I think he said four seed. Do you think you 689 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,680 know what I mean? That's what he said. 690 00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely cool, that is that's absolutely cool cool. I think 691 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,280 that on the last six games, the Baylor game is tough. 692 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,559 I think they beat Colorado, so that's maybe, you know, 693 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,400 I I don't know if they beat I will stayed 694 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,400 at home at this point, I you know, so I 695 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,880 would say one, I would say, you know, they between 696 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:34,360 you know, at West Virginia and at Baylor, they'll win one. 697 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 5: So they'll go one. 698 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: And one, two and one, two and two, two and three, 699 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:44,280 three and three. 700 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,039 Speaker 5: As Cincinnati. Man, that's tough. 701 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 1: And then I think in the last four games, I 702 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,079 think if BYU manages to go six and two, I 703 00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:00,920 think that they have a chance to be five seed 704 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,440 at best. 705 00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:04,639 Speaker 5: I think if BIU. 706 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,039 Speaker 1: Goes four and four or three or three and five, 707 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,760 by will be a seven seed. 708 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: Well, there's no way. Look, I had people reaching out 709 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,320 to me and saying asking me, question, is this is 710 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,199 this team going to the NCUBLEA Tournament. I'm like, yes, Like, 711 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,239 what are you talking about? They're going to the NCUBLEA Tournament. 712 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,039 They will, they shall. When you get that question, what's 713 00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:26,639 your reaction? 714 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,119 Speaker 5: Oh, I know for effect, they'll go to the NCAA Tournament. 715 00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: But again, right, we are and I'm gonna say wasting, 716 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,519 And because I know nobody is wasting, but imagine one 717 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:44,480 season of AJD Bonsa and where you have the number 718 00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:49,000 one recruit in the country and you don't go past 719 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,440 the sweet sixteen. That's tough, man, you know. I think 720 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,880 the expectation and you and I talked about this, then 721 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,280 I think that if they don't go past the sweet sixteen, 722 00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:03,800 I think that it wasn't a great season. Now you 723 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,400 can definitely paint a picture of how great of a. 724 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,199 Speaker 5: Season it is. 725 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: But I mean, dude, do you I mean, I you 726 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,519 could go to the beginning of the seed of the 727 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:16,559 season before the season even started, and the three of 728 00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:19,719 us going at it live, going even more at it 729 00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:24,079 on our text thread. I mean, and I you know, 730 00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:27,519 perception is reality in reality right now with BYU needs 731 00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:28,000 to win. 732 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 5: A lot of games. I don't think that. 733 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: I say that unless they go six and two. They're 734 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,599 not six and two and get People are gonna call 735 00:36:36,639 --> 00:36:40,920 me crazy, but that's okay. Unless BYU goes six and 736 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,440 two and BYU gets to the championship game of the 737 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,280 Big twelve Tournament, They're not going to be a four seed. 738 00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:51,800 They're gonna be a five or a six seed. 739 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,159 Speaker 5: The best. 740 00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: JT for three Jonathan Tabinari, could you hit a standing 741 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:03,119 three right now? Thirty five percent of the time with 742 00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:05,079 some of the looks that in the could you pick 743 00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:07,719 and pop? Like can? I've got like seven attempts I 744 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,559 think in pick and pop situations, could you hit that? 745 00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:14,559 Speaker 1: I couldn't pick and pop right now? Unfortunately I'm too overweight. 746 00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:19,840 But I will say, DZ my man for the ni 747 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,159 O money that they're getting right now, I would get 748 00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:26,760 myself in shape. Yes, and standing three, I could easily 749 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,559 be a good forty to fifty, especially because now I'm 750 00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:34,079 more experienced now. I mean I usually mess around and 751 00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:36,760 I catch and shoot, and after I worm up for 752 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,440 a couple of minutes and I just see the ball 753 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:38,800 go through. 754 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 5: I usually go eight for ten. 755 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,599 Speaker 1: Nine out of ten. You know, last time I shot 756 00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:45,920 with my boy, I think I was like forty seven 757 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,320 for fifty. Uh. 758 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 5: We were having a competition because he was asking. 759 00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:53,639 Speaker 1: For you know, for for a new phone and that 760 00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:56,079 that that that did not go well for him, by 761 00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:59,639 the way, And and so yeah, standing up, I would 762 00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:01,760 be a good right now in a in a live 763 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,639 game easily, easily with the shape that I am right now. 764 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,079 Speaker 5: So I love it. 765 00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, jt oh. Shout out to xanders Will getting his 766 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,280 patriarchical blessing. Uh, big news for the Tabinari family. 767 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,079 Speaker 1: Hey, that was special, man, I you know, that was special. 768 00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 5: You know, There's been a few special. 769 00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: Moments in my life, and I gotta tell you, man, 770 00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:24,199 that was. 771 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 5: That was up there. That was special, That was beautiful. 772 00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:28,920 You know. 773 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,079 Speaker 1: It's just that he's just a great young man. And 774 00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:33,400 I've told you this before. Ben you know, we're close. 775 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,320 We've we've known each other along and we've known our wives. 776 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 5: And so. 777 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: You know, I and I and I don't say this 778 00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:41,960 too many people, but like you and I were close 779 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,960 at BUYU, I was very close. 780 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 5: I'm very close. We're very close. 781 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,639 Speaker 1: Still, same thing with Lee Kamar, the same thing with 782 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,079 Kyle Collinsworth. You know you guys. Uh, if my son 783 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,320 turns out to be like you know you guys, where 784 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,840 he is an outstanding athlete and even a better person, 785 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,519 a better. 786 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 5: Man, I would I would be so lucky. 787 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,119 Speaker 1: And uh and so I you know, it was a 788 00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:13,559 blessing and uh, you know I it's it's a lucky thing. 789 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,679 It's a it's a very blessing. It's a bless to 790 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,400 be able to be a dad and to experience those 791 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,239 things with your son. 792 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 5: And God's true families. 793 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,559 Speaker 1: Are forever, you know, we you know, it's all I 794 00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:29,000 know to be true, and it's it's a special thing. 795 00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:31,679 Speaker 5: And so I appreciate, appreciate a shout out man, heck. 796 00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:34,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, love and appreciate you. Happy for Xander and 797 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,639 your crew man. It's a big move and many blessings 798 00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:39,800 will come from a JT. Much love, man, thanks for 799 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:40,800 hopping on to talk some ball. 800 00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: Hey, I appreciate you having me and always in forever 801 00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:45,880 my men. 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