1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to dpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free, write to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,679 smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:34,079 your support. Elizabeth Staffer, writing over at Legal Insurrection about 10 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:40,200 Trump's tariff war, I thought that this was uh oh yeah, 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:46,479 hang on a second. I'm busy. Wait, something's going on 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:52,079 with all of our phones. They're all busy. What's going on? 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,039 All right, there we go. Sorry. So, she writes that 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,799 China has several tools at its disposal to retaliate against 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,159 the United States. It's already taken steps to restrict the 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,719 export of critical rare earth minerals, and has attempted to 17 00:01:06,799 --> 00:01:11,480 rally support among allies and neighboring nations. But she says, 18 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:15,840 as the junior power in the US China relationship, and 19 00:01:15,879 --> 00:01:19,799 as the surplus nation whose economic rise has been fueled 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,879 in part by intellectual property theft and other coercive practices. 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:30,120 China also faces significant vulnerabilities. The Trump administration is currently 22 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,959 engaged in trade negotiation with representatives from one hundred and 23 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,879 thirty different nations. Okay, now this now keep that in mind, 24 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,400 because in an op ed on Monday, Victor David Hanson 25 00:01:43,719 --> 00:01:47,760 made the case. He's a historian and conservative commentator. He 26 00:01:47,879 --> 00:01:50,400 made the case that China will lose the trade war 27 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,079 with the US, and that it would happen gradually and 28 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:58,000 then suddenly. I've talked about that pattern too. It's a 29 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:03,200 cascade effect, slowly at first, then very quickly. When nations 30 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,599 are forced to choose between a rogue economic actor and 31 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,159 a flawed but fairer partner with unmatched global power, they 32 00:02:12,159 --> 00:02:14,840 are far far more likely to choose the latter, which 33 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:21,479 is US. China has behaved very badly in international trade, 34 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,159 and every other country that does trade with China knows this. 35 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:30,960 Hanson concedes that China can inflict short term damage on 36 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,919 the United States, particularly through a halt in exports of 37 00:02:34,159 --> 00:02:39,439 pharmaceuticals and rare earth metals. He writes, quote, if China 38 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,840 really does reduce most of its exports to the US, 39 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,599 America will have to scramble for probably a year or 40 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:51,680 so to establish new supply chains and some alternate importers 41 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,280 of US products. But after a year of gradual dislocation, 42 00:02:56,879 --> 00:03:01,280 China will begin to hemorrhage. And then suddenly, given the 43 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,080 US has almost all of the advantages, if it chooses 44 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,120 to use them right, it'll slowly start hemorrhaging, and then 45 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:13,719 quite suddenly China is running a nearly one trillion dollar 46 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,919 trade surplus with the world, which is the result of 47 00:03:18,199 --> 00:03:26,719 market manipulations, product dumping, asymmetrical tariffs, patent theft, copyright theft, 48 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:33,800 tech theft, a corrupt Chinese judicial system what you might 49 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,080 call bullying. Okay, this will make it difficult for China 50 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,479 to claim victimhood when the tariffs and surpluses illustrate a 51 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:47,080 contrived trade aggression by the tycoms. He goes on to 52 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,919 say this again, Victor David Hanson. If the Trump administration 53 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:54,719 can conclude first round good enough but not yet perfect 54 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,879 trade deals in the next couple of weeks, and they 55 00:03:58,919 --> 00:04:03,919 get these deals with major EU countries, Japan, other Asian 56 00:04:04,039 --> 00:04:09,400 and Pacific powerhouses, and then they can readdirect to China, 57 00:04:10,599 --> 00:04:17,800 the administration will gain both political support and economic advantage. 58 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:22,560 Now again, this is from Legal Insurrection by Elizabeth Stauffer 59 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:29,439 or Stauffer, she says, beyond China's current economic troubles and 60 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,759 Trump's newly declared terror for China faces a deeper challenge, 61 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,240 a more intractable one, one that no amount of control 62 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,000 by a communist, you know, authoritarian government can actually resolve. 63 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:52,560 It is a demographic death spiral. Demographic death spiral. This 64 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,199 is what happens when the replacement rate of a nation 65 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:02,519 is not high enough. And the demographers people who do 66 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,319 you know, demographic research and stuff, and they know what 67 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:10,360 these numbers are, and they know when your fertility rate 68 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:15,920 goes too low, then you're not replacing your population and 69 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:20,879 your population dies out. And you'll recall this has been 70 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:26,319 a problem. I think people have long recognized Japan as 71 00:05:26,759 --> 00:05:32,199 one of the worst afflicted nations regarding the demographic death 72 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,120 spiral because again, like you start, the numbers go down 73 00:05:36,199 --> 00:05:38,439 and then you know, slowly at first, then very quickly. 74 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,839 Again it's because as your population ages, there are not 75 00:05:41,959 --> 00:05:43,600 enough people to take care of them. There are enough 76 00:05:43,639 --> 00:05:46,360 people in the workforce to be able to afford all 77 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:50,439 of the government services and stuff, and everything starts contracting. 78 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:57,920 So there was an op ed written by a Chinese demographer, author, 79 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:03,600 and activist name is Ye Fujian, and it was called 80 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:08,319 the End of the Chinese Dream, and he talked about, 81 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,000 you know, the comparison between Japan and China, and he 82 00:06:14,079 --> 00:06:17,120 talked about how and I remember this as when I 83 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,639 was growing up, you know, that Japan was going to 84 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,160 buy everything, they were going to take over everything. They 85 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,439 bought Rockefeller Center and oh my gosh, they're taking everything over, 86 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:31,079 you know, And people were really worried about it because 87 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:38,079 by nineteen ninety five, the GDP of Japan VERSUS America 88 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,160 had grown from like nine percent in the sixties up 89 00:06:42,199 --> 00:06:45,720 to seventy three percent. They were catching us, right, and 90 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:47,480 they were growing faster when we were like, oh my gosh, 91 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,800 oh my gosh, just as we consider China to be 92 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,240 our chief rival today, back in nineteen eighty nine, Americans 93 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,480 were more worried about the threat posed by Japan than 94 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:03,199 the military threat posed by the Soviet Union. But it 95 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,639 didn't work out that way, right. They learned the hard 96 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:12,120 way in Japan that demographics matter. Japan's ratio of working 97 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,959 age people to those over sixty five years old fell 98 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,720 below that of the US in the nineties, and that's 99 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,800 when their GDP growth slowed down. That's why, like I've 100 00:07:22,839 --> 00:07:28,720 seen stories of these, you know, Japanese warehouse workers that 101 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:35,759 are being equipped with exoskeletons, robotic exoskeletons, so it so 102 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,120 the robots actually do the lifting for them because the 103 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:45,319 workers are too old, they're in their sixties, and they 104 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:48,399 cannot lift the heavy weights any longer in the warehouses, 105 00:07:48,959 --> 00:07:50,839 and they don't have enough people to go to work 106 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,279 in the warehouses, and so they're developing this technology that 107 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,800 they then you know, strap on these like arm attachments 108 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:02,079 and back attachments and leg attachments and you kind of 109 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,240 walk around like a iron man, and then the machine 110 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,879 does most of the lifting. So this demographer emphasized that 111 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,759 while comparisons to the nineteen nineties Japan are frequent, China 112 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:21,480 faces an even bleaker future because its fertility rate is 113 00:08:21,519 --> 00:08:27,199 even lower than Japan's. In twenty twenty ten, twenty twenty two, 114 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,399 so like in ten year increments, the Japanese fertility rate 115 00:08:30,519 --> 00:08:34,559 was one point three six, that's children per woman one 116 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,519 point three six, and then went up to one point 117 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,799 three nine, then dropped back down to one point twenty 118 00:08:38,879 --> 00:08:45,840 six China's over the same three decade comparative. China's was 119 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,720 one point two to two back in two thousand, it 120 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:51,480 dropped to one point one eight in twenty ten, and 121 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,879 right now it stands at one point h five. It's 122 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:59,080 now struggling to stabilize its fertility rate, which is now 123 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,480 estimated at two point eight percent, so not even a 124 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:09,759 one to one child per woman ratio. That's less than 125 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,480 half of what's called the replacement rate. The replacement rate 126 00:09:12,519 --> 00:09:16,000 is two point one. That's how you you're replacing. Right, 127 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,600 man and woman, they make two kids, now you're replacing 128 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:23,320 your population. That's the minimum. Its prime age labor force 129 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,440 has been shrinking since twenty twelve, not coincidentally, when it's 130 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:36,960 three decade run of double digit GDP growth ended. Why well, again, 131 00:09:37,039 --> 00:09:39,639 for people of a certain age like myself, we remember 132 00:09:40,919 --> 00:09:46,440 China's one child policy. You were only allowed to have 133 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,840 one and that's why they were murdering all of their 134 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,679 female daughters. They were having abortions if it was female. 135 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,159 If the baby was born it was female, they would 136 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:58,080 they would throw it away, they would discard it, they 137 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,519 would kill it because they wanted the ma and that 138 00:10:02,759 --> 00:10:07,120 one child policy ran from nineteen seventy nine to twenty fifteen. 139 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,320 And this is what she says, is directly to blame 140 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:15,440 for their point eight fertility rate. And that's a problem. 141 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,240 That is a big problem for a very big country. 142 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,879 All right. So spring is here a time of renewal 143 00:10:21,919 --> 00:10:26,440 and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries and the special 144 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,080 days for mom and dad. 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Is an immigrant with an NTA noticed 163 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:38,240 to appear with a date seven or so years out, 164 00:11:38,279 --> 00:11:43,240 for example, in the United States illegally and therefore deportable? 165 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:49,279 Please comment, thanks and keep up the great content. If 166 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:55,279 they haven't notice to appear, so you say, so they've 167 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,519 come in. I think it would depend on how they 168 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,679 came in because there are all these different programs that 169 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:06,200 that Biden implemented through the app claiming asylum and everything else. 170 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,320 So yeah, I don't know. I don't know if they're 171 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,799 immediately deportable before an NTA a notice to appear before 172 00:12:15,799 --> 00:12:20,799 their court appearance, I don't know. Again, I'm not an 173 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,759 immigration attorney, So the practical mechanisms that are at play here, 174 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:29,519 I do not know the answer to that. But I 175 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,759 think you know a way to answer the question would 176 00:12:32,759 --> 00:12:36,720 be to ramp up the immigration courts to clear out 177 00:12:36,879 --> 00:12:41,000 the backlog, and the backlog exists because the system was 178 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:46,919 purposefully intentionally overwhelmed. Right now that the system is under control, 179 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,480 the border is under control, now you can hopefully catch up. 180 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:56,080 Like that's the idea. So, yeah, it's a good question, Denny. 181 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,639 I wish I knew the answer for you. All right. 182 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,799 So Daniel Darling over at the National Review had a 183 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:11,759 really good piece and it's about the Easter reminder of 184 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:18,279 why man needs God. He starts off talking about the 185 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,960 Khmer Rouge, which is kind of a weird place to start, right, 186 00:13:23,039 --> 00:13:30,519 the Cambodian death cult, polepot right, one of history's bloodiest rulers. 187 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:37,559 And he says though that the ideology that inspired him, right, Marxism, 188 00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:41,480 Karl Marx, the godfather of the ideology that would motivate 189 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,120 polepot also Lenin and Mao and softer versions that have 190 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:52,320 crept into the West. Marx famously blamed religion for holding 191 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,240 humans back from their full potential. Right, you've heard the 192 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,600 famous you know, opium of the people. The full quote 193 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:02,559 is religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the 194 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,080 heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. 195 00:14:07,399 --> 00:14:10,639 It is the opium of the people. If we just 196 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:18,360 got rid of that, then the revolution would succeed. But 197 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,080 as the twentieth century embraced those ideas and the body 198 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:25,960 counts piled up around the world, it would be a 199 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,840 Soviet dissident who expressed the cruel torture of the Gulag 200 00:14:32,039 --> 00:14:36,159 who would understand the perversity of this entire project. The 201 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:41,840 guy's name Alexander Sultsanitsen. He said, I have spent well 202 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:45,039 nigh fifty years working on the history of our revolution. 203 00:14:45,879 --> 00:14:48,840 In the process, I have read hundreds of books, collected 204 00:14:48,919 --> 00:14:53,000 hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes 205 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,360 of my own toward the effort of clearing away the 206 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,559 rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked 207 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,200 today to formulate as incisely as possible the main cause 208 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,519 of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some sixty million 209 00:15:07,559 --> 00:15:11,000 of our people, I would not put it more accurately 210 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:16,039 than to repeat, men have forgotten God, That's why all 211 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:23,200 this happened. His words, according to Daniel Darling, were not 212 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,039 merely a lament for his beloved Russia, but also a 213 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,399 warning for the West, and he could not have been 214 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:34,279 more precient. In the nearly four decades since he delivered 215 00:15:34,279 --> 00:15:38,120 his address, America and other leading nations have been pushing 216 00:15:38,159 --> 00:15:41,279 Christianity to the margins while living off the fumes of 217 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:47,320 its benefits. It turns out that mere modernity, with its 218 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,080 technological advancements, has left many people in a state of 219 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:56,480 digitized misery, comforts at our fingertips, but missing the guiding 220 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,120 hand of God. It's no secret that has church such 221 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:06,279 attendance has fallen. Indexes of loneliness and despair have risen dramatically. 222 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,039 The bonds of faith and family and community have been 223 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,639 broken in our atomized world. The ordered liberty envisioned by 224 00:16:14,679 --> 00:16:18,720 the founders of America, the twin liberties of sorry, twin 225 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:23,039 spirits of liberty and religion that were described by Alexis Dtaueville, 226 00:16:24,919 --> 00:16:27,600 the guy who said America is great because Americans are good. 227 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,360 We band together in civic organizations and churches. We see 228 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,000 a problem, we get together with our neighbors. We go 229 00:16:35,039 --> 00:16:37,320 about fixing the problem. We don't rely on government to 230 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:43,120 do it for us. That was Detouville. But perhaps there 231 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,960 might be cracks in the secular ceiling. So do not 232 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,399 despair where the light of the supernatural is breaking through. 233 00:16:51,679 --> 00:16:55,559 Since twenty nineteen, the decline in the number of Americans 234 00:16:55,559 --> 00:17:01,639 who claim religious adherents has leveled off. So it's not continue, 235 00:17:01,639 --> 00:17:05,400 it's not still dropping, it's it's plateaued. And there are 236 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,799 signs that church attendants, especially among millennials and Gen z, 237 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:16,000 is now on the rise. You've heard stories, you know, anecdotal, 238 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:20,319 but still are these like revival like experiences that have 239 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:26,160 been reported across college campuses. Darling says he's spoken with 240 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,680 pastors across the country and he's hearing reports of overflowing 241 00:17:29,759 --> 00:17:36,640 church services on Sunday and dramatic conversions. What's more, he says, 242 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,400 something is happening in the intellectual class, which was once 243 00:17:40,519 --> 00:17:44,000 overtaken by New atheism in the wake of nine to eleven. 244 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,720 This was always one of those things, you know, the 245 00:17:46,759 --> 00:17:54,920 new atheist movement. They never did produce for us the 246 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:00,799 infrastructure that they said could be produced absent God, absent religion, 247 00:18:03,559 --> 00:18:08,440 whatever became of that, says, that's the whole point, like 248 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:11,920 the whole idea. 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So back to this piece 276 00:19:43,759 --> 00:19:48,759 from Daniel Darling at the National Review. He talks about 277 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,200 something happening among the quote intellectual class that was once 278 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:57,119 overtaken by new atheism. The most dramatic conversion story is 279 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,240 that of Ion Heresy Ali, who was one on a 280 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,000 bright light among the skeptics and now a forceful advocate 281 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,720 for Christianity. She is joined by Nile Ferguson, Rosalynd Picard, 282 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,920 Paul Kingsnorth, and others. Even Richard Dawkins, a virulent critic 283 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,559 of Christianity, has admitted that he would rather live in 284 00:20:15,559 --> 00:20:20,440 a society that is shaped by Christianity. The intellectual reversals 285 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,119 are met by a new openness to faith among the 286 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,400 nation's top media outlets, particularly in the podcasting genre, where 287 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,200 hosts like Joe Rogan and Sean Ryan regularly feature long 288 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,839 conversations with Christian apologists, and one cannot dismiss the growing 289 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:41,440 boldness of Christian athletes in college and professional sports. He 290 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,400 goes on to say that the myth that societies can 291 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,720 flourish without faith is becoming less palatable to a brand 292 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:54,799 new generation. Humans by design are worshiping beings. It's in 293 00:20:54,839 --> 00:20:58,240 our nature. No matter what forces may align to crush 294 00:20:58,319 --> 00:21:04,200 faith in the supernatural, yearning for God will endure. By 295 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:09,519 the way, this is why I believe people behave the 296 00:21:09,559 --> 00:21:17,119 way they do with regard to climate alarmism. It's a 297 00:21:17,279 --> 00:21:24,200 supplanting of God Gaia Earth. Right. This does not mean 298 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:29,400 that Christianity's adherents are always the best messengers. Part of 299 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,559 what motivated new atheism were scandals of the institutional church 300 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,359 and of religious fanaticism that manifests in violence. And what 301 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,160 of the evil like poul pot that a good God allows. Right, 302 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:46,359 This is where the story at the heart of this 303 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,640 season helps us make our way through the spiritual fog. 304 00:21:50,319 --> 00:21:53,680 He says, Easter is not the story of humans perfecting 305 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:59,680 themselves through moral improvement, but the rescue of morally deficient people. 306 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:06,240 From themselves. Failing flawed Christians are part of the plot. 307 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,319 The Passion narrative is God coming in the flesh to 308 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,960 defeat the sin and death that humans themselves brought on 309 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,079 the world. It is wretched sinners aware of their wretchedness 310 00:22:18,319 --> 00:22:22,319 at the mercy of a holy God. Easter, rather than 311 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,279 paint pastels over the reality of evil, takes us into 312 00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:29,400 the heart of darkness, on that dreadful night, where the 313 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,559 innocent Son of God is beaten and disfigured, not for 314 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,759 crimes he committed, but for the sin that lurks in 315 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,039 every human heart. Those who question the reality of God 316 00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:43,200 in a world of evil must not only recognize that 317 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,640 the definition of evil comes from God, but also that 318 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,000 the Christian story claims Christ defeated evil on that day 319 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,640 and that there is a God coming in judgment one 320 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,920 day for the polepots of this world, who, rather than 321 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,359 beg for mercy before a savior, thumb their nose in 322 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,319 opposition to their creator. Easter matches the ugliness of the 323 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,519 world with the ugliness of the Cross, and pairs the 324 00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:16,200 faint and false hopes of moral improvement with the triumph 325 00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:23,440 of Jesus's resurrection. This is what utopian Marxism can never provide. 326 00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:27,400 This is the longing that modernity and science and technology, 327 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:33,519 for all of their benefits, they just cannot satisfy. Societies, 328 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:36,640 of course, can find the personal salvation the Gospel offers. 329 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:40,640 Faith can't be Oh sorry sorry. Societies cannot find the 330 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,039 personal salvation. They cannot be forced. Faith cannot be forced. Right, 331 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,480 It's an act of your own, your conscience. But when 332 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,400 people move away from themselves and towards God, that is 333 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,759 good for the nation. You can read the whole piece 334 00:23:58,759 --> 00:24:03,440 at National Review National Review Online by Daniel Darling. It's 335 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:09,200 called The Easter Reminder of Why Man Needs God. I 336 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,799 wholeheartedly endorse it. All right, Up next, we're going to 337 00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:15,079 have Brett Winterble in studio, a little thing we like 338 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,599 to call pregaming because I always join him for the 339 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,599 first part of his show on Friday, which we call 340 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,039 the hangover because I hangover to talk with him, not 341 00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:27,599 because we're getting completely smashed, although that might make for 342 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,480 an interesting segment. All right, if you're listening to this show, 343 00:24:31,519 --> 00:24:33,039 you know I try to keep up with all sorts 344 00:24:33,079 --> 00:24:35,079 of current events, and I know you do too, and 345 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,960 you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why. 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The blind 356 00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:13,839 spot feature shows you which stories get ignored by the 357 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,640 left and the right. See for yourself. Check dot ground, 358 00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:21,519 dot news slash pete. Subscribe through that link and you'll 359 00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:24,720 get fifteen percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage 360 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,200 plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription 361 00:25:28,319 --> 00:25:31,000 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 362 00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:34,319 ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 363 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,079 It's Friday final segment of the program, and that means 364 00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:41,519 we did do a little pregaming with Brett Winterbill. You 365 00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:44,559 can hear them here on WBT immediately following my show. 366 00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:46,839 In case you're listening right now on a podcast three 367 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,839 until seven pm weekdays on WBT Brett Winnable. How art 368 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:52,200 thou sar? 369 00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 2: Ah, It's great, I'm awesome. How are you? Well? 370 00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: You're always awesome. You are awesome. Oh you are. 371 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,279 Speaker 2: I appreciate Yeah, you are, and you are as well. 372 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate that. And I feel like 373 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,440 you're just saying that because I said it first. But 374 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,599 that's okay, I'll take it. 375 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:08,599 Speaker 2: You're even more awesome. 376 00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:13,319 Speaker 1: Okay, now you're you got to maintain your credibility. So 377 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,880 before you came in, I was talking about this piece 378 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,640 at National Review about the Easter Reminder of why man 379 00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:26,039 needs God. And in the piece they talk about younger 380 00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:32,519 people now starting to go to church again, and maybe 381 00:26:32,519 --> 00:26:34,720 some of this is always the case in crises. Remember 382 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,160 after nine to eleven there was a lot of people 383 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,359 going back to church. But I got a message from Mark. 384 00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:45,400 Have you ever seen Jordan Peterson in person in one 385 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,000 of his events? 386 00:26:46,079 --> 00:26:48,319 Speaker 2: I haven't seen him at his events, but I've seen 387 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,400 him like video and things like that. 388 00:26:50,279 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: Right right, right, So he came to Charlotte and Mark 389 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,079 said that he and his wife went there and saw 390 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,519 him and They were amazed by the amount of young 391 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:01,640 people that were there, especially young men. And in the 392 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,279 piece they talked about ion her cl e. She's now 393 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:10,799 converted to Christianity. Do you think that there is something 394 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:16,400 happening where because Peterson has even now acknowledged he as Christian, 395 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,480 like he avoided it for a while, but he's like 396 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:23,960 now said, yes, I adhere to Christianity, and he ties 397 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,920 a lot of his you know, talks about responsibility and 398 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,440 what it means to be you know, an adult and 399 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,400 a man, and all of this stuff to the Christian tenets. 400 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:39,160 Do you think that we're seeing something shift in our 401 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480 society or maybe globally or something. 402 00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, oh, without a doubt, Absolutely without a doubt, 403 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,400 because we have lived in such a neolistic environment. 404 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: Yes, for a I mean since Marks. 405 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 2: Really since Marks, that's true. And you can only thrive 406 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,640 on that bridge for so long because there we know 407 00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:07,440 what the what are the wages of sin, death right? 408 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,440 And so if you turn your back on a faith, 409 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,640 on your faith, and in this case I'm speaking about Christianity, 410 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,720 it will always come back to you. You have the 411 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:23,200 yearning in your heart for it. You can ignore it, 412 00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:25,880 you can do drugs. You can be an alcoholic, you 413 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,519 can be crazy, you can you know, and just not 414 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,720 be able to connect. 415 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: To it or in my case, all the above. 416 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 2: Well that's that's that's that's entirely possible. But I think, yeah, absolutely, 417 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,880 I believe it. I mean I look, I you know, 418 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,839 I I've got a lot of faith in the uh 419 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,440 in the future. Like I don't. I don't think we're 420 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,319 anywhere near done, Like, no way, because we can, people 421 00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:49,960 can come back. 422 00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:53,079 Speaker 1: Do you think that's because you're just a generally optimistic 423 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,079 person if you are, do you think you're an optimistic. 424 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,279 Speaker 2: I'm a really pessimistic person. Really, Yeah, by. 425 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,799 Speaker 1: And large, you don't strike me as a peasant. 426 00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: I'm Dallas Cowboys fan. Okay, Well, so I mean I 427 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,960 mean I was Look, look, I always expect to get 428 00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:14,319 just completely sold out, and then when everything that's good 429 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,000 is good, yeah, oh without a doubt, I'm like, yeah, 430 00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:21,400 this is great. So I mean, if you're if you're 431 00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:25,680 if you're if you're par you're great. I mean, you 432 00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:28,920 just par plus one. You got it going on. But 433 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,799 I mean a lot of times you get you get 434 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,519 this demoralized, like looking at these crazy people that run 435 00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:35,000 around and do terrible things. 436 00:29:35,559 --> 00:29:38,119 Speaker 1: Speaking of Yes, sir, have you heard of the twenty 437 00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:43,000 four year old American YouTuber named Mikailo Viktorovich, Paul Yokovic 438 00:29:43,799 --> 00:29:48,160 or polk How am I supposed to search that name? Yeah, 439 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,440 but he's a YouTuber? 440 00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: Okay? 441 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,119 Speaker 1: Twenty four years old? 442 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: Yep? 443 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: He got arrested for what for visiting an island? 444 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,839 Speaker 2: Which island? Is it? 445 00:29:58,119 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: North Sentinel? Island? 446 00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:00,599 Speaker 2: North Sentinel? 447 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,359 Speaker 1: So off the coast of India. 448 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,279 Speaker 2: Oh, that's the guy who wanted to leave a diet 449 00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:09,519 coke and yes, did the murder? They'll murder you if 450 00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:11,519 you go near them, right? Okay? 451 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: Did you talk about this? 452 00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: No? 453 00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:14,559 Speaker 1: I saw the story today. 454 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,759 Speaker 2: Are you sure you didn't talk about this like a 455 00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:17,440 couple of weeks ago? 456 00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:20,319 Speaker 1: No, I'm positive. Why are you listening to other shows? 457 00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:21,039 Besides my mind? 458 00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:22,559 Speaker 2: There's no why I don't watch it. I mean I 459 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,640 don't listen to anything, you know what? For real? 460 00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: I swear No, I haven't talked about this. So the 461 00:30:29,519 --> 00:30:32,119 details are. He has to appear before a local court 462 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,920 in Port Blair, the capitol of India's Andaman and Nicobar Islands. 463 00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:44,079 He is from Scottsdale, Arizona. Of course, right. Mikailo Viktorovich Polyakov, 464 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,440 classic Scottsdale name. He was arrested March thirty, first, two 465 00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:54,079 days after he set foot on the restricted territory of 466 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,319 North Sentinel Island in a bid to meet people from 467 00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:02,759 the reclusive Sentinel's He left a can of diet coke 468 00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:08,759 and a coconut. Yes, where the heck as an offering? 469 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,079 Speaker 2: Where it was on your so dang it. 470 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,839 Speaker 1: But he failed to connect with the tribe, which is 471 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,920 actually a good thing because anytime this tribe encounters people 472 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,039 that wash up on their shores, they murder them. What 473 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,000 do you think he was trying to do there? I 474 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:22,960 have a theory. 475 00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:25,799 Speaker 2: Internet famous. 476 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:31,279 Speaker 1: Ah, that's solid, that's solid. What's the last name Polyakov? 477 00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:33,759 Speaker 2: Well, he was probably trying to get his Polyochov. 478 00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,039 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, all right, that's I already shut down 479 00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:38,519 my computer. I have no ribshot for you. 480 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,359 Speaker 2: Now you're now you're no longer an optimist. Now you're 481 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,160 a pessimist because of what I just said. 482 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,119 Speaker 1: So I don't know what he was trying to do, 483 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,880 but I have a theory, diet coke and a coconut. 484 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: Diet coconut coconut. 485 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you could think of Hunter Biden. 486 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,319 But you're close. No, that was not left. It was 487 00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:07,039 a coconut or should I say a coconut? 488 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 489 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,319 Speaker 1: I honestly die coke is associated with which political figure? 490 00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:17,759 Speaker 2: With Donald Trump? There you go? Okay, so Donald Trump, 491 00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:19,119 and what's the coconut for? 492 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,559 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris? A coconut tree? 493 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:25,359 Speaker 2: You hurt my head? 494 00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:27,759 Speaker 1: I think he was trying to, like. 495 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: Oh, ask him, like who do you want? 496 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,279 Speaker 1: It could have been a pole. He could have been 497 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:34,559 polling them to find out who they liked. Or maybe 498 00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:36,799 it was like I don't want to offend either one 499 00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:39,839 of them, like because they could be Trumpers, they could 500 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,640 be Harris heads. I don't know, did they? So I'm 501 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,920 going to give you peace offerings representing the two parts 502 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,359 of American political culture. 503 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So was the coconut cut in half like where 504 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,079 you could drink out of it? 505 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: Or is it that's a good question. 506 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: Was it just a weapon? Maybe that's why they wanted 507 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:56,440 to kill him. 508 00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: Do they have coconuts on North Sentinel Islands because that 509 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,400 would be kind of lame, like you show up with 510 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,240 a coconut, but they got coconuts everywhere. 511 00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: You reckon the ecology right that place. Yeah, you're a 512 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,240 special place. 513 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:08,319 Speaker 1: You gave us something we already had. 514 00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:09,559 Speaker 2: It's like, are they cannibals? 515 00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. If they eat the people. I don't 516 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,359 think so. Because in twenty eighteen, an American missionary landed 517 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:19,240 illegally on the beach and was killed. They shot him 518 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,880 with arrows and then buried his body on the beach. 519 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: That's actually that's a pretty open minded kind of position 520 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,680 because you're actually burying them, You're not just letting them 521 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,839 rot or eating them. 522 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:33,279 Speaker 1: Interestingly, like, this is a culture that has been cut 523 00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:37,279 off from the rest of the world for thousands of years. 524 00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:37,960 I don't believe it. 525 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,799 Speaker 2: I bet there was somebody there in the eighteen hundreds 526 00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:41,200 that nobody ever said anything about. 527 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,519 Speaker 1: I wonder that too, because yeah, it's like Ponzi schemes. 528 00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:45,519 And had they come up with had they come up 529 00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:48,920 with North Sentinel Island, because that doesn't sound like thousands 530 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,200 of year old? Now what they call it? What did 531 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:51,640 they call it? 532 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,319 Speaker 2: I don't know. They call it whatever they call it 533 00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:56,599 in their own language, you know, I mean, everybody's. 534 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: They killed two fishermen who accidentally landed on shore too. 535 00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,279 I don't know if they buried their bodies or not. 536 00:34:02,759 --> 00:34:05,799 But the guy stay, this guy Polyakov. He stayed on 537 00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:08,119 the beach for about an hour. He blew a whistle 538 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:09,079 to attract attention. 539 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,199 Speaker 2: Geez, what a nut? 540 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: Got no response, what a coconut. He got spotted by 541 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,039 some local fishermen who then ratted him out, and that's 542 00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,360 why he's now in court. That's it. 543 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 2: That sounds like that sounds like there should be a 544 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,960 song played after that story. 545 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,119 Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 546 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,159 so much for listening. I could not do the show 547 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:31,719 without your support and the support of the businesses that 548 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,880 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 549 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,559 them too and tell them you heard it here. You 550 00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:39,239 can also become a patron at my Patreon page or 551 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,960 go to dpetekallanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much 552 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:50,159 for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.