WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Caplis, and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.759 edition of The Dan Kaplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.519 single day on your favorite podcast platform. 6 00:00:15.279 --> 00:00:15.439 You know. 7 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:18.480 And I sit here right now in amazement for so 8 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:23.199 many different reasons. Amazement at the beauty of nature all 9 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:26.280 around us, no question, I'm off preparing for trial and 10 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:29.079 a cabin in the mountain, so amazement at that, but 11 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:32.640 truly amazement. Not to sound naive, right, I'm not a 12 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:43.439 little boy, but amazement at how anti anti traditional American values, anti, 13 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:48.039 you know, so much of what I've grown up to 14 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:53.640 really appreciate and admire in this country. The Colorado Democratic 15 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:57.399 Party has become, and so many of its elected officials, 16 00:00:57.399 --> 00:00:59.719 and listen, I understand they've been far left for a 17 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:03.320 long time time. Policy differences, some of them profoundly moral, 18 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:07.519 all of that, right, but the extremes that they've gone to, 19 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:11.480 you know, I just sit back in amazement and say, 20 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:14.879 how did we this great state of Colorado ever get 21 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:16.439 to that point. I'm not going to bore you. We 22 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:18.760 all know the history, right of the blueprint and how 23 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:23.359 a left targeted Colorado licked its jobs, poured money in, 24 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:27.640 and was able to execute a plan to turn us 25 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:31.760 into a radical, far left governed state. And you can 26 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:34.519 see the state now being hurt in so many different 27 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:37.560 ways because of it. But what has me today just 28 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:41.840 sitting back in amazement and then of course thinking about 29 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:46.200 what we can do to salvage it is Phil Wiser, 30 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:51.879 chief law enforcement officer of the state, and in that position, 31 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:55.439 through both fully pulpit and the powers of the Attorney General, 32 00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:57.959 if you want to fully exercise and you have the 33 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:02.239 opportunity to do so much good, so much good for 34 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:06.239 innocent people against true criminals. And we all know, you 35 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:09.240 know the litany. We all know how many true, big 36 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.879 time awful criminals, including cartel members, prey on the people 37 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:17.800 of Colorado, and how much true horror and death and 38 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:22.240 rape and pillaging and bloody destruction of human life there 39 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:25.479 is by criminal elements. And we have a chief law 40 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:28.879 enforcement officer who lockstep with the policies of the left 41 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:33.400 in Colorado just ignores so much of that, doesn't use 42 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:36.400 the power of the office to try to combat those true, 43 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:44.280 heinous evil villains, but instead target's law enforcement makes law 44 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:47.919 enforcement the enemy, and it's just part of this overall 45 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:54.039 trend in Colorado of the left protecting criminals and undermining victims. 46 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:56.000 And what I'm talking about today we'll get in more 47 00:02:56.039 --> 00:03:00.520 detail later in the show, is that the Attorney General 48 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:05.360 has now sued He has now sued a Mason County 49 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:12.520 Sheriff's deputy in his personal capacity, in his personal capacity, 50 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:16.919 over an allegation the deputy violated Colorado law when he 51 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.520 shared information with federal officials that led to a Utah 52 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.319 College student immigration. 53 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:25.919 Arrests last month. But my point is this. 54 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:33.240 Targeting an individual officer in his personal capacity. Now we 55 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:36.439 can talk about the underlying conduct of this officer. 56 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:38.479 I even studied it. I can't pass judgment. 57 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:41.840 But the point is this, there's no dispute that this 58 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:46.159 officer didn't shoot anybody and kill anybody. There's no claim 59 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:49.639 of any kind of wrongful use of deadly force or 60 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:54.080 anything like that. And so to sue an officer in 61 00:03:54.159 --> 00:04:00.319 their personal capacity, think about the message that sends about 62 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.520 how that endangers all of us out here. Not only 63 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:06.439 do we not see wiser out there, you know, and 64 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:08.919 maybe there are some isolated examples, but can you show 65 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.680 me any kind of regular effort on the part of 66 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:14.680 Wiser to use the Attorney General's office to go out 67 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.439 there and to sue personally, to go out and sue civilly, 68 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:20.959 to use the full powers of the office in any 69 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:26.759 manner possible, you know, against these drug dealers, against these cartels, 70 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:33.040 against these human traffickers. But he makes it a point 71 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:38.600 to sue this one individual officer personally. And think about 72 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:41.920 how that endangers you right now, if you're living in Colorado, 73 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:46.920 how much tougher is it going to be to keep 74 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:53.519 good officers and to attract good officers. If you decide 75 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:57.319 to courageously serve as a law enforcement officer in Colorado, 76 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:06.680 you're walking into ultra far left political boiling pot where 77 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:09.120 they can't wait to make you, as an officer, a 78 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:15.279 human sacrifice, where the Attorney General of the state takes 79 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:19.519 that massive hammer and sues you personally. And as the 80 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:21.439 son of a cop, and a cop who I am 81 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:24.560 absolutely certain never did anything wrong in his thirty year career, 82 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:28.600 but as the son of a cop, the idea that 83 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.360 the Attorney General of the state would sue an individual 84 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:36.519 officer in their personal capacity to make an example of 85 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:37.279 them like this. 86 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:39.959 It's a kind. 87 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:42.800 Of thing that's going to cause a lot of good 88 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:44.720 cops to never come here and a lot of good 89 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:47.079 cops to leave. But do you think Phil Wiser cares 90 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:51.399 about that? No, not at all. And think about the 91 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:54.600 issue he's acting on it again, the particular behavior of 92 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:59.560 this underlying officer who's not accused of assaulting anybody or 93 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:01.800 beating anybody or shooting anybody. 94 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:04.680 You know, whether he violated Colorado statute or not, I 95 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.319 don't know, but this I do know. 96 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:09.319 I know that we can point to lots and lots 97 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:12.560 and lots of women who have been raped by people 98 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:15.480 here illegally. And that's no comment on the college student 99 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:18.240 this officer interacted with. I assume she's a very fine 100 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:20.319 person who's never done anything wrong in her life. 101 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:21.120 That's not the point. 102 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:26.639 But the point is we have had a massive amount 103 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:30.800 of the worst kinds of crime committed by people in 104 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:34.279 this state I legally, And how often have you heard 105 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:36.839 Phil Wiser express any concern about that? And I understand 106 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:39.959 it's a very small percentage of the people who come 107 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.199 to our state I legally, who commit crimes like that, 108 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.360 But there shouldn't be one if you're attorney general of 109 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:47.839 this state, there shouldn't be any. 110 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:49.240 Acceptable casualty rate. 111 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:52.360 But rather than focus they're the massive power of his 112 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:54.199 office and there are a lot of great attorneys there 113 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:57.399 and tons of money. Rather than focus that effort on 114 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:03.519 protecting Colorado's from being further preyed upon by folks who 115 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:07.560 come here illegally and commit heinous crimes, he singles out 116 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:12.680 an individual officer and sues that officer personally as some 117 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:15.480 kind of political stunt to get him self attention during 118 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.560 a campaign at whose expense. 119 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:17.560 Not his. 120 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:21.439 You can bet he has plenty of security. But everybody 121 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:25.519 else living in Colorado who's very lives and quality of 122 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:29.079 life depend on being able to attract and keep good officers. 123 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:31.720 How did what the attorney general of this state do 124 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:34.879 just do? How did that help any of the rest 125 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:37.879 of the people of Colorado who just want to go 126 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:41.160 about their lives with safety, and we're all dependent on 127 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:45.199 law enforcement for that. So, yeah, that's what I'm amazed 128 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:50.000 at that a state like this could go so wildly 129 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:53.040 pro criminal. And again, I'm not talking about the young 130 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:56.480 lady involved in this incident, not at all. I'm just 131 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:00.600 talking about this pro criminal, pro person here legally who 132 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:02.879 commits other crimes and then bring the hammer of the 133 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:06.839 state down on an individual officer through a suit in 134 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:10.680 their personal capacity. And I understand that the significance of 135 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:14.279 that may be lost at times, but when law enforcement 136 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:17.519 officers get sued and we in our practice, you know, 137 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:20.160 we do not do that because my dad was a cop, 138 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.600 and he was a great cop. And listen, sometimes any 139 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:24.879 human endeavor, it could be lawyers, it could be doctors, 140 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:27.680 it could be cops. God forbidden, it has been on 141 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.560 occasion a priest. Any human endeavor, you're going to get 142 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:35.039 some bad apples. And if somebody wrongfully hurts somebody, then yeah, 143 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:38.120 there should be justice. We just choose in our office 144 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:41.919 not to do those particular cases because my dad was 145 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:45.799 a cop. We represent so many law enforcement officers, but 146 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:52.279 when officers get sued, it's almost always a case of 147 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:57.000 getting sued through the department for the Attorney General to command, 148 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:59.519 and there are some cases in individual capacity, but for 149 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:04.039 the Attorney General to commit the attorney general and target 150 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:08.639 this officer in Masa County to sue this deputy in 151 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:11.759 their personal capacity, that's a really big deal and it's 152 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:15.879 really really harmful to the state of Colorado. You're telling 153 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.600 me there's no other way the Attorney general could have 154 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:23.559 assured that if this officer did violate a Colorado statute 155 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:27.519 in the way he handled this particular individual, that wouldn't 156 00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:28.039 happen again. 157 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.159 There's no other way he could have accomplished it. 158 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:35.759 No wiser decided to grandstand and do something really bad 159 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:38.039 and really rare, which is why it gets news to 160 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:40.639 make himself a hero on the left at the expense 161 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:46.039 of whom everybody else, right, everybody else in Colorado depends 162 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:50.080 on law enforcement for safety. So yeah, that's what we've 163 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.600 got in Colorado right now. So lots to talk about. 164 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:54.279 I want to come back. I'll take your calls and 165 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:56.679 text on that, But I also want to talk about 166 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:01.679 President Trump today very directly accusing Barack Obama of treason. 167 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.399 Are their prosecutions coming of Barack Obama? Should there be 168 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:08.320 three or three seven one three eight two five five 169 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:11.240 takes d a n five seven seven three nine. 170 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:12.759 You're on the dan Capla Show. 171 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:23.639 And now back to the dan Caaplas Show podcast, which 172 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:24.000 hut that. 173 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:27.200 You should be talking about is they caught President Obama 174 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:29.840 absolutely called Chelsea Gabbert. 175 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:32.840 What they did to this country in. 176 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:36.679 Twenty sixteen, starting in twenty sixteen, but going up all 177 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:39.240 the way going up to twenty twenty of the election, 178 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:41.279 they tried to rig the election. 179 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:42.879 Then they got. 180 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:46.519 Caught and there should be very severe consequences. 181 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:47.279 So that you know, when we. 182 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:50.279 Caught Hillary Clinton, I said, you know what, let's not 183 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.080 let's not go too far here. It's the ex wife 184 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.399 of a president, and I thought it was sort of. 185 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:59.120 Terrible and I let her off the hook and a 186 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:03.559 very happy idea. But it's time to start after what 187 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:04.159 they did to. 188 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:08.159 Me, and whether it's right or wrong, it's time to 189 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:08.960 go after people. 190 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:13.159 Obama's been caught directly. So people say, oh, you know 191 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.440 a group, It's not a group, it's Obama. 192 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:18.519 His orders are on the paper, the papers are signed, 193 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:20.679 The papers came right out of their office. They send 194 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:24.120 everything to be highly classified. Well the highly classified it 195 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:28.000 has been released. And what they did in twenty sixteen 196 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:29.399 and in twenty twenty. 197 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:33.440 Is very criminal. It's criminal at the highest level. 198 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:36.799 Now this is a big deal. I want to break 199 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:38.279 this down with you. Gets your take on it? 200 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:40.679 Three or three seven one, three eight two five five 201 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:43.799 text D and five seven seven three nine. 202 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:45.840 I mean, obviously, you have a very. 203 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:50.879 Successful sitting president who is accusing a former president of treason. 204 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:52.600 And that's a big deal. 205 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:55.919 I mean, even in our kind of you very intense 206 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:59.440 political climate right now, that's not nothing. So I want 207 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:01.679 to dig into, want to get your take out of 208 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:05.720 mine on whether he's right, whether it actually happened, and 209 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:08.559 then critically on whether it can be proven in a court, 210 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:11.120 because as you know, there's a difference between the truth 211 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:16.120 and proof. And I've spent my professional life proving the truth, 212 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:19.000 and there are many times when you know something is 213 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:21.480 absolutely true and then it takes a lot of really 214 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:23.360 hard work to be able to go out and prove it. 215 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:26.879 Can they prove this or do you disagree and think 216 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:27.679 it's just not true? 217 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:32.120 Obama didn't do that. But clearly the president setting this 218 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:34.440 up right now is one of two things. Right This 219 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:35.399 is either a. 220 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:40.159 Short lived shot that he really wants to take because 221 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:42.200 there's no doubt in his mind that it is true. 222 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:49.279 And if we're talking about you know, Barack Obama intentionally 223 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:53.840 trying to create this impression that Donald Trump was illegitimate 224 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:57.679 and that Russia had colluded with Trump to steal the election. 225 00:12:57.759 --> 00:12:57.960 Etc. 226 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:03.519 Zero dumb Obama did that right? Now, big difference between 227 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:06.840 that and did he commit a crime? Did he commit 228 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:09.159 a provable crime? I mean, those are different issues that 229 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:12.240 I want to start to dissect with you. Three or 230 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:14.639 three seven one three eight two five five texts d 231 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:17.559 An five seven seven three nine. So it's either the 232 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:20.639 president taking that shot because he believes that it's true, 233 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.679 and obviously he's been He's been wronged more than any 234 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:27.720 president in our history who was not assassinated, right and 235 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:30.720 lord knows had tried to assassinate him, but he has 236 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:34.600 been so severely wronged. It may just be him wanting 237 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:36.720 to come out and make sure he put that marker down, 238 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:39.679 let everybody know what he thinks happened. Or it may 239 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.279 be that that DJ is preparing to prosecute. So we've 240 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:45.840 got one of those two scenarios, which do you. 241 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:46.519 Think it is? 242 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:50.639 Again, you can text us DAN five seven seven three 243 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:53.320 nine Before we get to the money bite, and this 244 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:55.559 is where you know, the President just comes out and 245 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:59.840 says directly that Obama committed treason. Interesting company made there, 246 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.519 and I'm sure he meant to say the wife of 247 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:05.440 an ex president rather than the ex wife of a president, 248 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:09.720 but in referring to Hillary Clinton, confirming that he had 249 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:12.600 made the decision, you know, not to have her prosecuted, 250 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:14.919 because I think clearly if it had just been a 251 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:19.039 straight up DOJ followed the evidence deal, that she would 252 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:21.879 have been prosecuted because I think she was clearly guilty. 253 00:14:21.919 --> 00:14:24.440 Now it's been a while, so I haven't. 254 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:29.360 Looked into the double jeopardy issues and whether you know 255 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:32.919 the fact that you know the prior administration had taken 256 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:36.080 a pass on that obviously a corrupt decision in my opinion, 257 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:39.399 whether that would create any double jeopardy kind of issues, 258 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.840 But it makes perfect sense to me that Trump had 259 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:45.879 made that decision, No, don't want to go after And 260 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:49.200 that's the irony, right he came into office. He came 261 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:52.879 into office ready to appoint let bygones be bygones, and 262 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:56.559 then go try to serve the country, whereas the left 263 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:00.559 came in to execute a coup. And I am prattell 264 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:03.240 stopped talking about it, probably never, but I'm very proud 265 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:05.159 of the fact that I called it a coup at 266 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:07.440 the time that was happening, and now in retrospect, I 267 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:10.159 think everybody can see that it was a coup. 268 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:10.519 Attempt. 269 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:14.360 All right, the president directly saying it, cut forty two plays. 270 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:19.799 But the leader of the gang was President Obama, Barack 271 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:20.799 Hussein Obama. 272 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:23.519 Have you heard of him? And except for the. 273 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:26.039 Fact that he gets shielded by the press for his 274 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:27.480 entire life. 275 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:31.679 That's the one they look. He's guilty. Is that a question? 276 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:32.159 You know? 277 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:36.559 I like to say, let's give it time. It's there. 278 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:41.960 He's guilty. They this was treason. This was every word 279 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:42.720 you can think of. 280 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:47.440 They tried to steal the election, They tried to obfuscape 281 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:51.279 the election. They did things that nobody's ever even imagined, 282 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:52.440 even in other countries. 283 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:56.600 Yeah, so just directly accusing him of treason. We've talked 284 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:58.960 about it before, we will again. We can break down 285 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:02.320 the legal elements, but keep it in mind obviously that 286 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:07.360 that DOJ. You know, DOJ works under the president. I mean, 287 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.200 obviously presidents in theory distance themselves from DJ. 288 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:13.840 Obviously, administration the. 289 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:16.240 Opposite of that, at least when it comes to individual 290 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:19.399 charging decisions. 291 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:23.279 But what do you think do you think that DOJ is. 292 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:28.240 Is actually following through in the process of following through 293 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:31.320 the criminal charges, because normally you would think the president 294 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:34.720 would not go that far unless he believed it was 295 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:36.200 provable and. 296 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.480 That DOJ was going to act on it. 297 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:40.399 So I want to get your take on that and 298 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:42.679 break it down in some more detail three h three 299 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:45.159 seven one three eight two five five text d an 300 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:48.799 five seven seven three nine. As we sit here right now, 301 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.639 my personal belief and my instincts are normally pretty good 302 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:55.279 on these things. But I don't have access to this 303 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:59.120 classified information right so all I can do is is 304 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:02.039 break it down for what's publicly available, based on what's 305 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:06.240 publicly available. Bottom line for me is I do think 306 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:13.559 that President Obama did try to destroy, undermine, subvert the 307 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:17.559 Trump presidency with a false allegation that Trump had colluded 308 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:20.599 with Russia to win the election. So I think President 309 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:24.079 Obama did try to destroy Trump personally as well as 310 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:27.720 his presidency with the false allegation. Do I think that 311 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.559 there is the kind of proof that you would need 312 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:35.839 to bring charges and to convict on such charges. No, 313 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:39.359 my hunches there is not. And the reason I say 314 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:44.640 that is that Barack Obama, I think, is a smart operator, 315 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:47.599 and I don't think there's any way in the world 316 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:51.920 that he would that he would have allowed the kind 317 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:57.599 of evidentiary trail that would be necessary to prove the charges, 318 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.839 to bring the charges, let alone prove them if I'm 319 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:01.599 about what came down. 320 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:04.559 So that's my take on it. Love to get yours. 321 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:05.440 We have that. 322 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:08.160 We have a whole lot more going on today as well. 323 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:10.960 Three or three someone three eight two five five text 324 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:14.319 d A N five seven seven three nine. And of 325 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:16.880 course we have to follow up on the Mayor of Denver, 326 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:21.119 Mike Johnston with his latest inspirational words. 327 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:22.599 Kind of our own bag Dad Bob. 328 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:26.039 It's gotten so ludicrous it's hard to even get mad 329 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:26.799 about it anymore. 330 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:29.839 You just have to kind of marvel and feel sorry 331 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:31.440 for him. You're on the Dan Kapla Show. 332 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:40.759 You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast. 333 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:45.039 If you look at that those papers, they have a 334 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:47.759 stone called and it was President Obama. 335 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:51.319 It wasn't lots of people all over the place. It 336 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:52.359 was them too. 337 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:56.319 But the leader of the gang was President Obama, Barack 338 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:57.319 Hussein Obama. 339 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:00.279 Have you heard of him? And except for the fact 340 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:01.519 that he gets shielded by. 341 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:06.519 The press for his entire life, that's the one they 342 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:07.440 look He's guilty. 343 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:08.200 Is that a question? 344 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:08.680 You know? 345 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:13.079 I like to say, let's give it time, it's there. 346 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:18.480 He's guilty. They this was treason. This was every word 347 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:19.240 you can think of. 348 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:23.880 They tried to steal the election, They tried to obfuscate 349 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:27.799 the election. They did things that nobody's ever even imagined, 350 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:28.960 even in other countries. 351 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:31.839 Yeah, laying down the marker. 352 00:19:32.079 --> 00:19:35.400 So do you expect to see a prosecution at this point? 353 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:37.559 Three or three seven one three eight two five five 354 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:40.680 the number text d A N five seven seven three nine. 355 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:44.240 Do you want to see a prosecution at this point? 356 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.039 Texter Dan All this is just to wag the dog, 357 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:50.599 diversion away from the Epstein issue, trees and coup. January sixth, 358 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:55.480 Trump wasn't leaving until they forced him out. Criminal was 359 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:59.319 one problem with that theory. He did leave, But I'm 360 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:01.359 sure a text would not want to be bothered with 361 00:20:01.400 --> 00:20:04.279 those facts in a wag the dog. 362 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:06.799 Hey, you know timing. Of course, that's a fair question. 363 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:10.319 As a president doing this now to distract from this 364 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:14.839 Epstein mess, maybe that that wouldn't make it any less true. 365 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:18.240 And again, I think we're in a situation where there's 366 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.759 no question in my mind Barack Obama was trying to 367 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:25.440 undermine the Trump presidency. A coup I'm not using it 368 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:28.720 in the legal sense, but in the reality sense. With 369 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:31.519 these false allegations of Russian colusion, no doubt in my 370 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:35.880 mind that happened. And I'm equally confident that the administration 371 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:38.559 won't be able to bring a criminal case and prove 372 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:41.839 those charges because I think Obama was too smart to 373 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.200 leave that kind of trail. But we will find out together, 374 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:49.359 right Dan, the majority is passing laws that weaken the 375 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:51.880 rule of law. Any official with credible info of a 376 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:54.759 crime should be expected to report it to proper authorities, 377 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:57.279 not be barred by law and prosecuted for doing it. 378 00:20:57.319 --> 00:21:00.799 The Age is acting in a shameful manner. That's Representative 379 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:05.640 Chris Richardson House Sister fifty six representative always welcome to 380 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:09.200 join us on the show, so appreciate that at any point. 381 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:12.359 But we were talking about earlier where Phil Wiser now 382 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:16.480 is targeting an individual, sheriff's deputy in Mason County and 383 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:22.279 suing him individually in his personal capacity, allegedly for passing 384 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:26.599 along information to Ice about a motorist. He stopped, and 385 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.240 I was just talking about the very chilling it's a 386 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:32.119 nicety legal word effect that it's going to have on 387 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:35.240 the ability to keep and recruit police officers to the state, 388 00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:40.119 regardless of the underlying circumstances. He's not accused of physical assault, 389 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:43.599 he's not accused of excessive force or anything else like that. 390 00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:45.880 So for the age of a state to target an 391 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:51.880 individual officer and bring a personal civil lawsuit against that officer, yeah, 392 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:57.720 that is just the epitome of the anti cop anti. 393 00:21:57.480 --> 00:21:58.119 Rule of law. 394 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:01.400 Left we have right now trail three seven, three eight, 395 00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:04.960 two five five the number I Hey, want to get 396 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:06.440 to some other hot sound of the day. But I 397 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:10.200 know one big question as we kick all this around is, hey, 398 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:15.000 what is treason under the law? And is President Trump 399 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:19.559 suggesting Obama can be prosecuted? And I don't think the 400 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:22.839 president's suggesting that because I don't see any way that 401 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:27.440