Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Way on WBS Boston's news video.
Speaker 2: I'll thank you very much for that little promo. Not
Speaker 2: only am I here tonight, I'm here through the rest
Speaker 2: of the week, next Monday and next Tuesday, filling in
Speaker 2: for Dan. Dan has a nice week and a half
Speaker 2: long holiday given to him by the powers that be,
Speaker 2: and he'll be back to begin the new year. But
Speaker 2: I am here, and I've got a whole letherack of guests.
Speaker 2: And this next gentleman the start off my week, is
Speaker 2: a man you can talk to about the Twilight Zone
Speaker 2: because he's written a book about the Twilight Zone. And
Speaker 2: the man who's written several books are Bond. James Bond,
Speaker 2: Bond's gadgets, the litany of all the movies he just
Speaker 2: doesn't stop creating with his type.
Speaker 3: At the computer. Steven J. Rubin, good evening to you.
Speaker 4: Good evening, Morgan. It's good to hear your voice.
Speaker 3: Good to hear your voice too.
Speaker 2: And I am going to entertain phone traffic on both issues,
Speaker 2: Bond and the Twilight Zone. I'm sure we should get
Speaker 2: many a person calling in tonight that we want to
Speaker 2: discuss both and what got you inter Let's do one
Speaker 2: at a time. What got you interested in the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 4: Well, it's a good question. I'm a working screenwriter in Hollywood.
Speaker 4: There can be literally years between making sales, and rather
Speaker 4: than sitting around waiting for Hollywood to come to their senses,
Speaker 4: I decide I've got to get back to book writing.
Speaker 4: And I had been a big fan of a book
Speaker 4: by Mark Zakree called The Twilight Zone Companion, which had
Speaker 4: been published in nineteen eighty two. But I have I'd
Speaker 4: had success with a James Bond movie encyclopedia, and I
Speaker 4: thought that The Zone would be perfect fodder for an
Speaker 4: encyclopedia format, and that brought me to Chicago Review Press,
Speaker 4: and they loved the idea of doing a Twilight Zone encyclopedia,
Speaker 4: particularly because of all the people involved in the series,
Speaker 4: particularly the actors. I would maintain that The Twilight Zone,
Speaker 4: over its original first five years, had the best cast
Speaker 4: ever in a TV series, clearly.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to give you something I noticed last weekend. Periodically,
Speaker 2: I will watch The Wild Wild West on me TV
Speaker 2: and they show that at ten o'clock in the morning
Speaker 2: on Saturday, and it was the episode with Agnes Moorehead
Speaker 2: and she was just so dulled up, and she she
Speaker 2: looked fantastic. And a few days before that, I saw
Speaker 2: the Twilight Zone when she was the no lines at all,
Speaker 2: but she was the frightened little old lady in her shack,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, UFO and UFO appeared and
Speaker 2: we found out the hook at the end. Not to
Speaker 2: be a spoiler, but if you don't know that episode,
Speaker 2: blocky ears because it was a craft from Earth that
Speaker 2: wound up frightening.
Speaker 4: Now, Twilight Zone played so interestingly with their subject matters.
Speaker 4: You saw so many different types of shows you wouldn't
Speaker 4: see anywhere else, and you know, here it is. Let's see,
Speaker 4: the first episode went on the air in the fall
Speaker 4: of fifty nine, so we're talking sixty five years ago.
Speaker 4: Sixty five years ago, which is insane. And I maintain
Speaker 4: you can watch those episodes today and they're still as
Speaker 4: fresh as they were when they first were on, probably
Speaker 4: because no one has matched the quality.
Speaker 3: And you know what I do watch.
Speaker 2: I watched them on Sci Fi Channel, I watched them
Speaker 2: on MeTV, and no one has matched the quality. Even
Speaker 2: they tried to reboot Twilight Zone on a couple of occasions,
Speaker 2: and they fell short of their own mark. They fell
Speaker 2: short well you know Indes.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And more recently with Jordan Peele. Jordan Peele,
Speaker 4: the film director, producer abroad off I know, it's funny
Speaker 4: you show a black and white show to a younger
Speaker 4: person today and there's a lot of resistance, like Dad,
Speaker 4: why am I watching this show from sixty years ago?
Speaker 4: And it's like an alien art form? But you put
Speaker 4: the twilight zone in color and you lose something. And
Speaker 4: I thought about this a lot while I was watching
Speaker 4: the encyclopedia I was writing an encyclopedia, is that when
Speaker 4: you're watching a black and white show, it's supposed to
Speaker 4: be a little alien to you. It takes you out
Speaker 4: of your sweet spot. Everything is magnified. It's because it's
Speaker 4: not the color you're used to, so you're off balance.
Speaker 4: And the other thing I noticed, after watching five years
Speaker 4: of episodes, one hundred and fifty six episodes, is that
Speaker 4: there was virtually no product placement in the show. Nothing familiar,
Speaker 4: nothing like a Union seventy six station or a McDonald's
Speaker 4: or the equivalent of nineteen sixties America. And that was
Speaker 4: determined by Rod Sterling that he didn't want you to
Speaker 4: become too familiar with your surroundings, so you question every thing,
Speaker 4: and sometimes you were surprised at what you discovered.
Speaker 3: And the key is.
Speaker 2: There are black and white shows sprinkled along current television.
Speaker 2: The Andrey Griffith Show their first five or six years,
Speaker 2: the first season of Gilligan's Island, all of the Alfred Hitchcocks,
Speaker 2: just to name a few. And it holds attention if
Speaker 2: you let it, and you have to let it. And
Speaker 2: if you're my age, I'm seventy one.
Speaker 3: And if you're.
Speaker 2: Over fifty five or sixty years old and you watch
Speaker 2: TV when you were in elementary school, you remember when
Speaker 2: TV was all black and white except for Bonanza.
Speaker 4: Oh I remember. I remember the logo for NBC the
Speaker 4: following program is brought to you in living color.
Speaker 2: There you go, and the peak cock Feathers switched an
Speaker 2: interchange until they locked in to the way.
Speaker 3: That image I just resented. I think.
Speaker 4: I think the first show I remember watching in color
Speaker 4: was not Bonanza, but was the Wonderful World of Disney.
Speaker 4: I think that on Sun's Nights, the Disney show was
Speaker 4: in color, and that was pretty sweet.
Speaker 2: The world is a fabulous world of color anyway, don't
Speaker 2: don't give me song cues because I can't resist them.
Speaker 2: I've got to take a break. And when we come
Speaker 2: back to them, break our first called me Nick and Charlestown.
Speaker 2: Anyone else wants to join Nick on hold six one, seven, five,
Speaker 2: four to ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine to nine,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Rob Brooks is on the phones tonight per
Speaker 2: usual here on Nightside. This is Nightside. Dan Ray is
Speaker 2: off for the next nine days. I am here until
Speaker 2: the thirty first of December. On the first of the year,
Speaker 2: Dan will be back, I promise you.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 3: I've got Stephen J.
Speaker 2: Rubin here and we're talking both about the Twilight Zone,
Speaker 2: and we'll kick in a few words about James Bond
Speaker 2: as well. Again, this is Nightside. The time here in
Speaker 2: Nightside eight fifteen, temperature twenty five degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 6: There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known
Speaker 6: to man.
Speaker 7: It is a dimension as vast.
Speaker 6: As space and as timeless as infinity. It is the
Speaker 6: middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition,
Speaker 6: and it lies between the pit of man's fears and
Speaker 6: the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination.
Speaker 6: It is an area which we call the twilight zone.
Speaker 2: That is our subject tonight here on night Side, I'm
Speaker 2: Morgan filling.
Speaker 3: It for Dan.
Speaker 2: And if you would like to call in six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine to nine, ten thirty,
Speaker 2: we welcome you. When I say we, I've got a
Speaker 2: gentleman who's written a number of books, and we will
Speaker 2: talk about James Bond shortly, but we're talking about the
Speaker 2: twilight Zone. And before I take our next call, who's
Speaker 2: been patiently holding uh Stephen? Why was there a change
Speaker 2: periodically in the opening. I know the four famous notes
Speaker 2: of do do do Do Do Do Do Do Do
Speaker 2: Do do doo is the theme everybody remembers. But why
Speaker 2: was there a change or do you know?
Speaker 4: Well, you had Bernard Herman doing the music. And Bernard
Speaker 4: Herman was the wonderful composer. They were lucky to get him.
Speaker 4: He did all the Hitchcock films, the Sinbad films. When
Speaker 4: they introduced the Twilight Zone theme by Marius Constant, the
Speaker 4: French composer, they decided to rejigger the opening words, and
Speaker 4: every so often they would hone it, and I just
Speaker 4: think it was like freshening up the series.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just curious about that. I've had Nick holding
Speaker 2: for eleven minutes. So Nick, it's your turn to speak
Speaker 2: with Stephen J.
Speaker 3: Rubin. Welcome to Night's Side.
Speaker 8: Good evening, gentlemen, Happy holidays, Happy holidays.
Speaker 9: See you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Stephen, I wanted to mention two of my favorite episodes,
Speaker 8: but before that, I'd like to ask you a question.
Speaker 8: In your opinion, which episode do you think is the
Speaker 8: most popular episode. I've got one of three. I'm thinking
Speaker 8: either I of the Beholder to Serve Man or Nightmare
Speaker 8: at twenty thousand Feet. Would you consider one of those
Speaker 8: three the most popular episodes?
Speaker 4: Yes, you pick three of the best episodes and three
Speaker 4: of the most popular. I would throw in the Burgess
Speaker 4: Meredith episode which is called time Enough at Last, which
Speaker 4: I think is also good.
Speaker 8: And maybe the Monster's ad on Maple Street too. Possibly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, there are so many excellent episodes. You'll
Speaker 4: have to forgive me, everybody, because I'm getting over a colt,
Speaker 4: so I'm coughing a little bit here.
Speaker 3: We'll deal with it. Don't worry about that.
Speaker 4: But I did you know? Go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 10: Oh, I'll go ahead.
Speaker 8: No, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 4: No, I'm I'm telling you ton't have anything to say,
Speaker 4: but keep talking. I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: So I wanted to mention two of my favorite episodes.
Speaker 8: One from the first season in When the Sky was Opened.
Speaker 7: Oh with Rod Taylor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a yes, that is a very cool episode.
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting the episodes that run.
Speaker 3: What happened, Oh, we're here?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you got off the because
Speaker 4: I'm in the car. The episodes that run well, the
Speaker 4: ones they run in heavy rotation in the marathons always
Speaker 4: seem to be the same episodes. So like When the
Speaker 4: Sky Opens sometimes isn't run And that's a really terrific episode.
Speaker 4: You know, some of the episodes literally have disappeared because
Speaker 4: there was some controversy. Uh the encounter which starred George
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Neville Brand. Yeah, that's the one where the gardener,
Speaker 4: the Japanese American gardener confronts the ex marine in his attic,
Speaker 4: and that that featured some dialogue that wasn't accurate. They
Speaker 4: you know, they say in the episode that the Japanese
Speaker 4: had spies at Pearl Harbor who were Japanese Americans and
Speaker 4: that was not true. So they got a lot of
Speaker 4: flak from the Japanese American community. So that episode literally
Speaker 4: never ran again. It's popped up since. But I think
Speaker 4: with an explanation.
Speaker 8: Yeah that that is a great episode. Yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 8: And the other episode I wanted to mention real quick
Speaker 8: is Richard Matthews Richard Matthewson episode Uh Diana Highland spur.
Speaker 4: Of the moment. Oh yeah, yeah, that's the one where
Speaker 4: she keeps seeing that figure.
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, yeah, her doppel ganger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a creepy episod. So there's something for everybody
Speaker 4: in the Twilight Zone, that's for sure.
Speaker 8: Well absolutely, okay, Johonna mean, thank you, Nick, thank you
Speaker 8: for your call.
Speaker 2: Than Happy holidays to you. All right, let's go too.
Speaker 2: I think this young lady spoke with you the last
Speaker 2: time I had you on Allison. You've got Stephen J.
Speaker 5: Rubin, Oh hello, Hi. Yeah, I'm big sanatic about old TV,
Speaker 5: the same way Morgan is and you are. Mister Reuben.
Speaker 5: I just thought he the one elements in one of
Speaker 5: the episodes I want to talk about, but we talked
Speaker 5: about I've talked about some of the famous ones and everything,
Speaker 5: but he did mention it when and When the Sky
Speaker 5: was Opened. I was gonna kind of mention tonight that
Speaker 5: one and a couple of the other ones that that
Speaker 5: I didn't when I was young. They didn't affect me
Speaker 5: as much as they do now. And when the Sky
Speaker 5: was Open, person a person's unknown and a world of
Speaker 5: Difference with Howard Duff, where people are just really strange
Speaker 5: things are happening, and their their lives are just falling
Speaker 5: up from under them kind of and in a world
Speaker 5: of in a world of a world of difference, I
Speaker 5: should say. And and in that case, he's an actor
Speaker 5: playing character, and he feels miserable in his own life.
Speaker 5: He just wants to become the character essentially. And in
Speaker 5: personal Person's an un Richard Long wakes up and and
Speaker 5: nobody recognizes him or anything in his normal life. And
Speaker 5: of course, and I think the most and and all
Speaker 5: those are just very disquieting episodes. And I think and
Speaker 5: then and when this Guy was Open is the most disturbing,
Speaker 5: because it's not just the fact that that they're they're disappearing,
Speaker 5: it's like it's the characters that they disappear one by one,
Speaker 5: and it's a great ensemble cast. Uh what is it
Speaker 5: Charles Aidman, Jim Hutton and Rod Taylor and uh and
Speaker 5: but it's the fact that they never existed somehow, whatever
Speaker 5: whatever the force is doing that, what is being done
Speaker 5: to them alien or whatever it is after they went
Speaker 5: up into space, it's making them as if they never
Speaker 5: existed at all. And that is just so oh wow.
Speaker 5: That just gets them under your skin. It really does.
Speaker 5: I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the I
Speaker 5: love the Christic Monster episodes and everything and all. They
Speaker 5: were just full on scary ones, believe me. But there's
Speaker 5: something about that that really those those that kind of
Speaker 5: episode really lingers.
Speaker 4: I think one was a Mathewson Also, I want to
Speaker 4: just want to jump in real quickly. Also, the fact
Speaker 4: that the story is told in a half hour such
Speaker 4: a compact and effective story type, and I think that's
Speaker 4: another thing that The Twilight Zone perfected. In four of
Speaker 4: the five seasons, they had half hour episodes and they
Speaker 4: were always very tightly written.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. Yeah, there was no Patty, although I like
Speaker 5: some of the hour long ones too. Definitely, you do Morgan, right,
Speaker 5: you love the one I was killing you more right,
Speaker 5: So of.
Speaker 2: Late, I think of Cliff is my favorite Twilight Zone episode.
Speaker 5: Wow, And I like a miniature a lot with Robert Yvall.
Speaker 5: I like that one a lot that was almost Yeah.
Speaker 4: Don't get Alice, don't get me wrong. I also liked
Speaker 4: the Hours. In fact, James wentmore episode on Thursday We
Speaker 4: Leave for Home is one of my favorites. That the
Speaker 4: Hours have been disparaged over the years as being kind
Speaker 4: of you know, they they didn't they weren't as tight
Speaker 4: as the original half hours, and that they were a
Speaker 4: bit bloated. But I didn't find that at all. There's
Speaker 4: just some great one hour episodes. And the reason there
Speaker 4: was one hour episodes is they canceled the series at
Speaker 4: the end of the third season and then they made
Speaker 4: the mistake of putting a different show and that did
Speaker 4: no ratings whatsoever. So James Aubrey, who couldn't stand Serling
Speaker 4: or the format of anthology, he had to come with
Speaker 4: his hat in his hands and ask Serling to do
Speaker 4: a mid season replacement, and that's when they came up
Speaker 4: with the one hour episode, the eighteen one Hours, which
Speaker 4: of course are are really opponents.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there were a lot of our long shows like
Speaker 5: Thriller and Bod Carlos Thriller and and obviously the oter
Speaker 5: limits of not Dations. So you know, there was such
Speaker 5: good writing in those days. And don't get me start
Speaker 5: James Aubery. He was one of those awful, awful people
Speaker 5: that never should have gotten to where he was anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Dan Curtis made two Dark Shadows movies, and after you know,
Speaker 5: when Dark Shadows was being towards the end of Dark Shadows,
Speaker 5: and he made him cut the second one night Dark
Speaker 5: Shadows by half an hour within just within a patter
Speaker 5: of days, and it'll totally wreck the movie. And and
Speaker 5: and he's just was awful.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He also he also sold the MGM lot to a developer,
Speaker 4: was the one, Oh no, but which could have you
Speaker 4: know that that is just a bunch of condominiums now,
Speaker 4: but that could have outrivaled the Universal Lot as an attraction.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's pretty bad.
Speaker 5: I don't speak ill of the dead, but why not anyway.
Speaker 3: I gotta take a break.
Speaker 5: Allison, Okay, good bye.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call, Allison. And if you have
Speaker 2: a stopwatch and you time her call, she'll get more words.
Speaker 3: In one minute than anybody I know.
Speaker 2: She is just always on full wind up when we
Speaker 2: allow her to come in. Anyway, I've got a news
Speaker 2: hit to take and when we come back, maybe we'll
Speaker 2: add a little James Bond into our conversation. Victor in Boston,
Speaker 2: you will be next. I promise others. You want the
Speaker 2: phone number, I'll give it to you. Six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine, two, nine,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. This is night Side without Dan tonight. I'm
Speaker 2: Morgan Time and temperature eight thirty twenty five degrees.
Speaker 1: Night Side God is Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 6: You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of
Speaker 6: sight and sound, but of mind, a journey into a
Speaker 6: wondrous land whose boundaries or that of imagination. You're next stop,
Speaker 6: the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 3: I'm Morgan.
Speaker 2: Dan is off tonight. He's off for the rest of
Speaker 2: the year. He'll be back on the first of January
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Stephen Jay Rubin is my guest. He
Speaker 2: and I are talking about Twilight Zone and James Bond,
Speaker 2: which you really haven't delved into as much. And I'm
Speaker 2: remembering in my mind a lot of people used to
Speaker 2: mimic Rod Serling and the opening of Twilight Zone. But
Speaker 2: the best mimicker I ever saw was Dan Aykroyd. I
Speaker 2: don't know how you feel about.
Speaker 4: That, Steven, I'm not surprised. Dan was a huge fan
Speaker 4: of the show, and of course he gets to play
Speaker 4: a part in the Twilight Zone movie, which gets the
Speaker 4: show office enthusiasm for the show.
Speaker 2: That was the theme that they were playing trivia game.
Speaker 2: That's right there you are. Let me bring Victor into
Speaker 2: our conversation. Victor, thank you for being patient holding. Welcome
Speaker 2: to Night's Side.
Speaker 9: Hey Morgan, first time caller.
Speaker 3: Welcome Victor. Thank you.
Speaker 9: I'm a seventies and eighties kid. I'm actually a sixty
Speaker 9: one year old kid. I'm an action adventure guy. But
Speaker 9: if there's one show on my top ten list, the
Speaker 9: top five.
Speaker 7: Is The Twilight Zone. Okay, I will watch.
Speaker 9: I will watch that regardless of anything else. I don't
Speaker 9: care what's coming on or what's so called hot or whatever.
Speaker 9: I have a tie for my two favorite episodes, it's
Speaker 9: scary to me. One was called the Howling Man and the
Speaker 9: other one was with a Francis. He was a living
Speaker 9: mannequin in the department store.
Speaker 4: Right after hours, after hours.
Speaker 7: After hours.
Speaker 9: Yeah, both of those episodes. I always watching them with
Speaker 9: the lights on, will around other people.
Speaker 7: I don't watch them by myself.
Speaker 4: The Howling The Howling Man is a great episode and
Speaker 4: it is filled with filled with the atmosphere for the
Speaker 4: listeners who don't know the episode. A man comes to
Speaker 4: a monastery to seek a refuge in the stormy night,
Speaker 4: manned by these very quiet monks. Uh, they haven't taken
Speaker 4: a vow of silence, but they're they're very old school,
Speaker 4: and they've managed to capture the devil and he's being
Speaker 4: held in a cell in the underground part of this monastery.
Speaker 4: And every night, this guy who's sleeping there, here's a howling,
Speaker 4: and that's the setup. It is very very creepy.
Speaker 9: Well, like I said, I watched that show every opportunity
Speaker 9: I can get. Regardless, I don't really think there's some
Speaker 9: things they're not really gonna be able to replicate.
Speaker 4: That's one of them.
Speaker 9: I've seen the film in eighty three, the first segment
Speaker 9: of that with dan Aykroyd and the other act in
Speaker 9: the car.
Speaker 4: That was scary. Yeah, that was kind of scary.
Speaker 9: But I don't really think they're gonna be able to
Speaker 9: recreate a show like that, a redoer or reboot it,
Speaker 9: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: It has been attempted on a number of occasions, and
Speaker 2: in my opinion, it always falls short.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's always shows what the original is. You really
Speaker 9: won't be able to do anything with it.
Speaker 3: You're gonna leave it alone.
Speaker 4: Margaret, what I was thinking of when we were earlier
Speaker 4: talking about why the color episodes don't work. The other
Speaker 4: thing that happens when you see these episodes now, a
Speaker 4: lot of people don't know who these actors are because
Speaker 4: they've been dead for many years. Adds another dimension of weirdness.
Speaker 4: Who are these strange people and how are they caught
Speaker 4: up in this weird show? So as the show gets older,
Speaker 4: it can get even more effective.
Speaker 2: They don't know who Frank Elletter is, they don't know
Speaker 2: who Albert Salami is. They don't know They might know
Speaker 2: Burgess Meredith from the Rocky films, but.
Speaker 4: Actors like Jack Klugman, John Anderson, you know, Robert Redford
Speaker 4: obviously is well known today, although not as well known
Speaker 4: as they used to be. I mean, Charles Bronson, you know,
Speaker 4: the they're always in those twilight zones and always so
Speaker 4: good and.
Speaker 2: The most attractive woman in the world at one time.
Speaker 3: She was called that.
Speaker 2: And Francis, and they did have an array of beautiful women.
Speaker 2: I mean, Donna Douglass from the Beverly Hillbillies was a
Speaker 2: very attractive young lady.
Speaker 4: And oh yeah yeah, and and Francis was one.
Speaker 9: Somebody who I really had in mind, though, was Hazel Court.
Speaker 4: Okay, oh sure, sure, yeah, yeah, I kind.
Speaker 7: Of she was a crush of mine while still.
Speaker 3: Is, but you know, uh.
Speaker 9: And Francis, Yeah, I liked her. I liked her personality,
Speaker 9: among other things.
Speaker 3: So I've got a I've got a collection of TV Guy.
Speaker 2: Of magnets from TV and a couple of them are
Speaker 2: from TV Guide, So I have the TV Guide on
Speaker 2: which Anne Francis was on the cover. So I get
Speaker 2: to see her every day still and she's still up there.
Speaker 2: Compare her to anybody, she is still a knockout.
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, lie, gentlemen. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Victor, thank you, thank you for
Speaker 3: your call.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the Cape and speak to Phil Line
Speaker 2: open by the way, Victor was on at six one, seven, two, five, fourteen,
Speaker 2: thirty eight, eight, eight nine two nineteen thirty Open nine,
Speaker 2: Go for It.
Speaker 7: Hello Phil, Hello Morgan, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm finding you, sir good.
Speaker 11: And one of my favorite episodes on the Twilight Zone
Speaker 11: was The Last Flight. Does anyone remember that one?
Speaker 4: Sure? Sure? That's the episode where a World War One
Speaker 4: biplane pilot lands at a modern Air Force base, and
Speaker 4: that is that is one heck of an episode. I
Speaker 4: really liked.
Speaker 11: That one too, And what really makes that episode fun
Speaker 11: for me was the pilot who landed that biplane was
Speaker 11: a British actor named Kenneth Hag and he also plays
Speaker 11: an uncredited role in my favorite scene in the Beatles
Speaker 11: movie A Hard Day's Night. He's the guy who sat
Speaker 11: there with George Harrison trying to convince George about this
Speaker 11: new model who's going to be the latest thing, and
Speaker 11: George thinks she's awful. That was my favorite scene in
Speaker 11: Hard Day's Night, and that was the same actor.
Speaker 2: A Hard Day's Night was just shown in rotation on HBO.
Speaker 2: I watched it literally one week ago. One week ago
Speaker 2: I watched The Hard Day's Night and Phil.
Speaker 11: On Morgan, I heard you mentioned you loved the Cliffordville episode.
Speaker 3: One of my favorites, if not my favorite Twilight Zone.
Speaker 11: How can it not be? Julie Numark?
Speaker 4: Good lord, Phil, Phil, Phil? Are you Phil? Are you
Speaker 4: a fan of Odyssey A flight thirty three?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 10: Sure?
Speaker 11: As they go over the UH that was like on
Speaker 11: this right?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that h John Anderson's the pilot. It's
Speaker 4: about the airliner that goes into UH back in time
Speaker 4: and right ends up over the over some dinosaurs where
Speaker 4: Manhattan should be exactly.
Speaker 11: Yes, right, yeah, oh no, that's a great one too.
Speaker 11: That's where we don't know if Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: That's where Roth Sterling contacted his brother who was an
Speaker 4: aviation right and got all the cockpit dialogue examined to
Speaker 4: make sure it was accurate.
Speaker 11: And Phil, I'm gonna say that episode.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Morgan, I'm going to say this because you
Speaker 2: brought up the name Julie Newmar. I have been in
Speaker 2: contact with her agent for over a year and a
Speaker 2: half and the only reason I haven't gotten her yet
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to do any publicity until.
Speaker 3: Her book is released.
Speaker 2: It's still to be released in twenty twenty five. And
Speaker 2: if you hear her book's been released, know that I'm
Speaker 2: going to be getting Julie Newmar.
Speaker 11: For the radio and know that I'll be on the stone.
Speaker 3: Phil. Thank you very much for to call. Take care
Speaker 3: bye bye very much.
Speaker 2: All right, I have another break to take and we
Speaker 2: had one open line. I don't know if we accidentally
Speaker 2: cut someone off. Just now as we cut off Pill,
Speaker 2: I'll just say down the phone number six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty eight, eight eight, nine to nine, ten thirty.
Speaker 2: This is night Side. I'm Morgan's filling in. I've got
Speaker 2: author Stephen J. Rubin with me and we're taking your
Speaker 2: phone calls here on BZ time and temperature eight forty
Speaker 2: five and twenty five degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Life Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 6: You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond
Speaker 6: it is another dimension, a dimension of sound, a dimension
Speaker 6: of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a
Speaker 6: land of both shadow and substance of things and ideas.
Speaker 6: You've just crossed over into the twilight zone.
Speaker 3: That's the third opening we have played tonight. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Rob Brooks in the control room, my guests Stephen J.
Speaker 2: Rubin and Steven are you ready for another call?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Morgan, let him, let me.
Speaker 3: Let's go to Drake and Mass and speak to Ernie. Ernie.
Speaker 2: You're next here at night side, Ernie, Ernie, are you there?
Speaker 3: I hated when this happened. Where were you? I'm right here, yeah,
Speaker 3: but where were you? The first three times I said
Speaker 3: your name?
Speaker 10: I didn't go anywhere. Okay, I'm in a bad cell
Speaker 10: zone in my house there.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well you get on now.
Speaker 10: Okay. I got a comment and a question for Steven.
Speaker 10: Go ahead, Steven. I guess you could say my opinion,
Speaker 10: the Twilight Zone and now for Hitchcock, but probably two
Speaker 10: of the best anthology shows of all time, if not
Speaker 10: one of two in the top five.
Speaker 4: You agree, I agree one hundred percent. You have two
Speaker 4: masters of suspense.
Speaker 10: Yeah. And it was always a theme with Rod about
Speaker 10: going back the home, going back home. You know what
Speaker 10: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yes, see, particularly in the two nostalgia episodes Walking Distance,
Speaker 4: Yeah and a stop at Willoughby where he kind of
Speaker 4: like you guys. They're both the lead characters in both
Speaker 4: episodes are burnt out advertising executives who just can't take
Speaker 4: it anymore. And yeah, I love those episodes. And Rod
Speaker 4: always had a fondness for his hometown of Ingham to
Speaker 4: be Ork.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, he would always go back when he had a chance.
Speaker 4: You know, I went back to Binghamton for a symposium
Speaker 4: a few years ago. I think I told you the story, Morgan,
Speaker 4: that I went to his house where he grew up,
Speaker 4: and the lady came to the house. She couldn't have
Speaker 4: been nicer, and she offered to take a picture of
Speaker 4: my friend and I and so I handed her my
Speaker 4: iPhone and she took a picture. And I looked at
Speaker 4: the picture and it was in black and white?
Speaker 10: How appropriate? Right?
Speaker 3: All right, Ernie, you have a question.
Speaker 10: I got it, Yeah, Steven, I got a question. One
Speaker 10: of my probably one of my favorite episodes was I
Speaker 10: don't know the title of it. This salesman coming through
Speaker 10: town on a haws and buggy selling you know, tonic
Speaker 10: in a and he brings it. I guess the dog
Speaker 10: was pretend he brings the dog back to life and
Speaker 10: he's telling you this.
Speaker 4: I think that was the second or third episode ever
Speaker 4: ever aired. And uh, yes, yes it was.
Speaker 10: Uh what was the name of that episode?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I knew you were gonna ask me that, And that's
Speaker 4: gonna be a tough one for me to get.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 4: I'll probably remembered a half hour after the show ends.
Speaker 10: But it's all it. Did people come walking out of
Speaker 10: the cemetery?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Episode, No, that's a different episode. That's a that's a
Speaker 4: that is a fifth season episode. This episode starred Dan Durier,
Speaker 4: the wonderful character actor and early role for Martin Landau
Speaker 4: who plays the black hat.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember the episode. I'll think of it.
Speaker 4: But it's a great episode.
Speaker 10: But the episode i'm thinking of, I guess he comes
Speaker 10: selling this tonic to the people to bring people back
Speaker 10: a live, make them well with something.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I think that's one of the one hour episodes. And
Speaker 4: it's uh, yeah, I think that's a one hour episode.
Speaker 4: And uh and at the end.
Speaker 10: You see the people you know, supposedly did people like
Speaker 10: walking out of the cemetery alive?
Speaker 2: Shootout with Lance lagrew? Does that ring a bell either
Speaker 2: one of your Showdown with Lance McGrew.
Speaker 10: Oh, yeah, that's not the one I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a good episode too.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he pulls up, He pulls up in his brand
Speaker 10: new Thunderbird. All right, Hey, I am enjoying the show.
Speaker 10: Merry Christmas and Happy New.
Speaker 3: Year, Happy New Year. To you too.
Speaker 2: One more on, one more call on before I have
Speaker 2: to do news, and that would be Karen in Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: Karen, happy holidays.
Speaker 12: Wait here, I'm sorry, I'm there. I'm very sorry, okay,
Speaker 12: but sorry. Why Well, because all of a sudden I
Speaker 12: was on and you know, I had a hand line
Speaker 12: landline in my hand, and you were coming out of
Speaker 12: the computer and I'm trying to turn everything off, okay,
Speaker 12: and I thought you were hearing it all.
Speaker 3: But let's talk twilights.
Speaker 12: But yeah, I just want to say congratulations on getting
Speaker 12: three hours.
Speaker 3: Very much for that.
Speaker 12: Thanks, and now we can work on getting more phone
Speaker 12: lines back for you in six hours.
Speaker 3: Well, one thing at a time, baby.
Speaker 12: Steps, Okay, I know.
Speaker 3: So what do you want to talk about? Twilight Show?
Speaker 12: The the one that I see. I didn't know these
Speaker 12: all had all these episodes had names, but the one
Speaker 12: that scares me to this day.
Speaker 8: I mean.
Speaker 12: The little girls that went under the bed and went
Speaker 12: yeah and then went in the ball Yes? Oh no,
Speaker 12: I yes, Rob Or you mean I used to my
Speaker 12: you already uh talked about because I wasn't gonna get.
Speaker 4: That is an episode called Little Girl Lost. And when
Speaker 4: they made the movie many years later Poultergeist. Uh they
Speaker 4: stole that idea from Rod. I think that it was long.
Speaker 4: It was long after you passed away though, but that
Speaker 4: older guys. It's very much based on that same episode
Speaker 4: Little Girl Loss.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 12: Well, this computer, it's like when I when I go
Speaker 12: in the computer every time, like if like if Bradley say,
Speaker 12: let's go to my travel page. I right, I'm so
Speaker 12: scared that if I subscribe anything, I'm going to turn
Speaker 12: into that little girl and go into the computer. Now
Speaker 12: I know I'm not You're not sensation. So I don't
Speaker 12: like computers because it reminds me of that all the time.
Speaker 12: I just don't know who will pull me back out,
Speaker 12: and then you.
Speaker 2: Know Bradley's going to be on Friday Night with me
Speaker 2: on that side.
Speaker 12: Yes, I hope that I don't have a whole list.
Speaker 12: Maybe somebody printed them out. I'm there, but uh no,
Speaker 12: the all the people you're having on, are you going
Speaker 12: to allow for I want somebody to call more than
Speaker 12: once when you're on all I will.
Speaker 2: Give you special permission to call for Bradley Jay.
Speaker 12: On Friday, But Bradley doesn't want to hear from me.
Speaker 2: I doubt that's the case. But I'm giving you special
Speaker 2: They're not allowed to call more than once a week.
Speaker 2: But because I'm filling in, people are hoping there's a loophole.
Speaker 3: Karen. Well you, I'm giving the loophole.
Speaker 12: Okay, can you tell me about all the other people
Speaker 12: in there so I can have loopholes for everything anyway. Anyway,
Speaker 12: I will say that the bunnies out back are saying
Speaker 12: hi to you, and they're dancing around. And I'm going
Speaker 12: to end with this, both of you. Why do radio
Speaker 12: and now Truth have little hands?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Tell us why.
Speaker 12: We pause the station identification?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: We pause? W ee paws. Thank you Karen, good night.
Speaker 4: And and what is the best way to find a
Speaker 4: new dentist?
Speaker 3: I don't know, Stephen, what is the best way?
Speaker 4: Word of mouth?
Speaker 2: On that note, I'm going to take my news break
Speaker 2: at the top of the hour. Stephen will be here
Speaker 2: next hour as well. Maybe we can get some Bond
Speaker 2: conversation going as well as twilight Zone.
Speaker 3: Don't stop the twilight Zone.
Speaker 2: I'm just going in addition to twilight Zone, James Bond
Speaker 2: time and temperature eight fifty eight twenty five degrees