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<v Speaker 1>If you've have krc DE talk station. Brian Thomas wishing

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<v Speaker 1>everyone a very happy Wednesday. One hour from now Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Jennita Politano right now, head of the Ohio Republican Party,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Trantefilo, to offer his thoughts and comments about Issue one,

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<v Speaker 1>the jerrymandering ballot issue. Actually it's a constitutional amendment. Welcome back,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Tranntefilo. It's always a pleasure to have you on

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<v Speaker 1>the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Frank, good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Always a pleasure to be on this ballot issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I just reading it, you know, And I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>the pro issue too guy last week and I made

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<v Speaker 1>myself deprecating comment. You know, I got seven years of college,

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<v Speaker 1>a practice law for you know, eighteen years or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>another radio for eighteen years, and I'm a member of MENSA,

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<v Speaker 1>and I still don't get it. It doesn't make any

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<v Speaker 1>blanking sense. It is the most convoluted process I have

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<v Speaker 1>ever encountered, I think, regarding the establishment of a so

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<v Speaker 1>called independent body which will basically do the jerrymandering work

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<v Speaker 1>that our elected officials are doing. I know my elected

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<v Speaker 1>officials accountable, well, I can vote against him or her

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<v Speaker 1>and check them out of office. If I'm unhappy with

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<v Speaker 1>their conduct, that's not so with this issue. Alex, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your take on this? Break it down for my listeners

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<v Speaker 1>who may be even less familiar than I am with

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<v Speaker 1>the insanity that I find this to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my language is going to be as strong or stronger.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a scam. It's a scam, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lie being perpetrated to Ohiolands by far left wing special

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<v Speaker 2>interest groups. And look, you know, Brian, how many times

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<v Speaker 2>in our life have we heard the words follow the money, right,

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<v Speaker 2>follow the money of who is supporting this endeavor. It's

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<v Speaker 2>out there for anybody to look at. There's plenty now

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<v Speaker 2>of information out there about Issue one. Over twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars an out of state special interest dollars are

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<v Speaker 2>flowing into Ohio for you to see these commercials and

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<v Speaker 2>for these guys who have gotten and paid people to

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<v Speaker 2>put this on the ballot. So the money is coming

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<v Speaker 2>from places like New York and Washington, D C. And

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco. And it's a million here, two millionaire, four

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<v Speaker 2>billion here. Four million of it we know came from

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<v Speaker 2>a Swiss billionaire who wants to be you know, impose

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<v Speaker 2>his progressive worldview into places like Ohio. But let's break

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<v Speaker 2>it down. If this thing passes, if Issue one passes,

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<v Speaker 2>it will be a fifteen member commission that's totally unelected.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot remove this commission. You can't even really talk

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<v Speaker 2>to them, Brian. Under the current proposal, you can't lobby them.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't you know, you can't show up and well

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<v Speaker 2>you can't a public session, but you can't have any

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<v Speaker 2>communication with them to share your view on what the

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<v Speaker 2>public lines ought to be us to look like as

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<v Speaker 2>we're drawing, you know, congressional and state legislative district boundary.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, if you can't, I mean, when what world?

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<v Speaker 3>Brian?

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<v Speaker 2>Who lived in the United States? Where you cannot talk

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<v Speaker 2>to the people setting public policy? We in America are

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<v Speaker 2>used to electing everything from the school board right in

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<v Speaker 2>our neighborhood all the way to the President of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. If you don't like what the president says,

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<v Speaker 2>you can protest and talk to him and then they'll

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<v Speaker 2>take a meeting with you. You can tell him how you feel.

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<v Speaker 2>In this circumstance, this commission, this fifteen member unelected bureaucracy,

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<v Speaker 2>will begin drawing legislative boundaries and again, the far left

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<v Speaker 2>special interest money that's pouring into Ohio will make it

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<v Speaker 2>so that the Democrats can win more seats. That's the bet,

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<v Speaker 2>is what this is all about. When you cut through

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<v Speaker 2>all of the nonsense. This is so that Ohio, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>has ten Republicans and five Democrats who go to Washington

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<v Speaker 2>to represent us and make up the United States House representatives.

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<v Speaker 2>If they can pick off one, two, three, god forbid, four,

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<v Speaker 2>five or six more seats for Democrats in Ohio, they

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<v Speaker 2>can make Hakeem Jeffries the Speaker of the House. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is a much much bigger play than just Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>This has everything to do with national politics and empowering

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats in Washington, d C. To take the speaker's devil.

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<v Speaker 2>That's plain and simple. That's why every Republican, in every

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<v Speaker 2>Republican I know of an America and any position of leadership,

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump has come out as.

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<v Speaker 3>A no Mike the Wine, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Those two guys don't always agree on everything, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom line is both Republicans both strongly against this.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single Republican elected official in this state, every single legislature.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a terrible plan. And now it's finally coming out, Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sorry, I'm on my soapbox here, but now

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming out. This is the woman who actually served

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<v Speaker 2>on a similar panel in Michigan against She was part

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<v Speaker 2>of a panel Michigan did this already. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>total failure, got struck down by the courts. She's public

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<v Speaker 2>today and I would urge you in Brian out Texas, PA,

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<v Speaker 2>that you can share it. It's in the Toledo Blade.

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<v Speaker 2>She came out very publicly and said, do not do

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<v Speaker 2>this in Ohio. And you know what her main argument was,

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<v Speaker 2>this split up African American communities because they have to

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<v Speaker 2>jerrymander the lines to meet a proportionality requirement, which means

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<v Speaker 2>that they have to jerry mander to squeeze Democrat districts

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<v Speaker 2>out of currently Republican districts the neighborhoods. So what happened

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<v Speaker 2>in Michigan is they lost African American representation. And the

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<v Speaker 2>African American community rose up in Michigan and said, you're

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<v Speaker 2>stripping us of members of the African American community that

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<v Speaker 2>are serving in the legislative bodies. So this thing is

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<v Speaker 2>just a disaster for Ohio. I was on a bus

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<v Speaker 2>all of last week at thirty different counties campaigning against it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to spend the next three weeks educating Republicans,

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<v Speaker 2>Independence and Democrats alike that Issue one is bad policy,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're urging.

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<v Speaker 3>A no vote Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to bring it back because I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of soundbites for the pro Issue one. They sound

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<v Speaker 1>nice and tasty and appealing, but I think the reality

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<v Speaker 1>when you peel back the thin veneer of the arguments

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<v Speaker 1>is the polar opposite. We'll let Alex elaborate more. We

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<v Speaker 1>bring them back after this quick word from my friends

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<v Speaker 3>She's such a nice lady.

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the programs that are out there if

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<v Speaker 1>She also probably has more knowledge and experience than anybody

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<v Speaker 1>Seven forty Here I fift about KERRC the talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Thomas happy to have the Ohio Republican Party Chairman

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Chranthapila long talking about Issue one. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>constitutional amendment which is problematic in and of itself. But

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is that the language of the ballot initiative

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<v Speaker 1>is longer than the entire Constitution of the United States

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<v Speaker 1>of America from what I've read, but more fundamentally, the

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<v Speaker 1>ads in favor of Issue one, they keep politicians out

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<v Speaker 1>of the process.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're not a.

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<v Speaker 1>Politician, an elected official is not even allowed to serve

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<v Speaker 1>on this so called independent committee, are they, Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, you know this is something like this is

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<v Speaker 2>like the Affordable Care Act or the Inflation Reduction Act.

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<v Speaker 2>They did the opposite, Brian. You know, we all know

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<v Speaker 2>as Americans. This is what politicians do. They label something

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<v Speaker 2>one way. They call this anti jerrymandering. In fact, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It is jerrymandering. The Ohio Supreme Court looked at Issue

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<v Speaker 2>one and the language and said this can reasonably be

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<v Speaker 2>called jerrymandering because that's what it is. Yeah. So the

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<v Speaker 2>important part of this though, and you just hit on it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to answer your question directly, is that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>None of these people are elected to these jobs. They're

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<v Speaker 2>totally unaccountable. It's an unaccountable bureaucracy, and it is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>thirty thousand words. It will nearly double the size of

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<v Speaker 2>our state constitution. So it's Look, it's a scam, left

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<v Speaker 2>wing power grab. It's designed to build off of what

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<v Speaker 2>you know people's general anxiety with jerry mandering, and jerry

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<v Speaker 2>mandering is not a positive thing for Ohio. We've passed

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<v Speaker 2>anti jerry mandering protections in the state, Brian by seventy

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the vote in both twenty fifteen and twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>So we have tackled that. There's more work to do.

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<v Speaker 2>There always is, you know, I Brian has said to

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<v Speaker 2>everybody around the state. You know, I'm a Republican, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a conservative. I always think government can improve. We ought

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<v Speaker 2>to do a continuing improvement process in everything. So can

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<v Speaker 2>this process be improved? Sure it can, So can everything else,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the world of government. This is not that

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<v Speaker 2>this is a left wing power grab and it's being

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<v Speaker 2>sold to ohiolands is an anti jerrymandering provision, when in

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<v Speaker 2>fact it will put jerry manner there into the state constitution.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess you know my initial point really, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with anything just said, but might we

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<v Speaker 1>want someone who has been an elected official at one

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<v Speaker 1>point to be on the committee since maybe they have

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<v Speaker 1>information that might help in this process. They exclude entire

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<v Speaker 1>categories of folks. Someone had told me, and I never

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<v Speaker 1>did was able to verify this. Maybe you can that

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<v Speaker 1>if you served in the American military, you're not eligible

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<v Speaker 1>to be on this panel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's arguable that you cannot, and that issue may

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<v Speaker 2>be litigated. But yeah, because you know that's a person

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<v Speaker 2>who's previously been in government in some capacity, that person

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<v Speaker 2>may not be able to serve. A police officer may

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<v Speaker 3>That could be a qualifying thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Though again, you know, the world's filled with all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>political philosophies, and we could go on and on. Just

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<v Speaker 1>there's that word work. What does work mean? Isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>based on a subjective opinion of what worked for you

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<v Speaker 1>or your political party. Hey, we got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats elected to these other states.

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<v Speaker 3>It worked, that's what they mean. They mean it worked to.

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<v Speaker 2>Elect Democrats, because that's what this is all about. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian again just for thirty seconds. Here. What's happened in

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio over the last ten years is the state is

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<v Speaker 2>now a more republican state. It's not a more republican state,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, because of a demographic shift. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party. This state has changed politically because the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>have changed. I've been in this state my whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably you have too, Ohio, and I've gotten to know

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<v Speaker 2>it even better over the last couple of years being

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<v Speaker 2>our state chairman. I can tell you this state hasn't changed.

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<v Speaker 2>So the population hasn't shifted. The Democrats went so far

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<v Speaker 2>of the left, Brian. They talk about social issues all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. They're not talking about things like inflation and

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<v Speaker 2>crime and common sense kitchen table issues that affect Ohioans

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<v Speaker 2>and Americans. They're talking about this crazy stuff like sports

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, stuff that has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the kitchen tabush. So Ohio went read, Ohio went red,

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<v Speaker 2>and under Donald Trump he helped make it read. So

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<v Speaker 2>now we've won a lot of races in Ohio. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is the Democrats answer. It's to try to put

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<v Speaker 2>issue one in the law into our Constitution so they

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<v Speaker 2>can start to win elections and gain power both in

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<v Speaker 2>Columbus and in Washington DC. This has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with good government, has nothing to do with citizens in

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<v Speaker 2>this process.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all to use.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden's word, malarkey indeed, and then the other things.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a political spectrum out there. I know you're aware

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat Party, the Republican Party, there is just such a wide,

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<v Speaker 1>wide birth in terms of what people believe in, what

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<v Speaker 1>party are. But then again, you've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>independence out there. The guy in the program, the Vote

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<v Speaker 1>Yes guy, said seventy percent of Ohioans are independent, and

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<v Speaker 1>like scratching my head, going R well, he just based

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<v Speaker 1>his pulling off of the primary voting. And we all

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<v Speaker 1>know how skewed that is and how weird that is

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<v Speaker 1>compared to a general election. In the final analysis, at

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<v Speaker 1>some point in this convoluted process, they're gonna have thirty Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty Democrats, and thirty independents. And I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what is an independent? You could have communists, you have

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<v Speaker 1>Green Party people, you could have literally anybody across the

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<v Speaker 1>entire spectrum of politics all the way over to some

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<v Speaker 1>clan member. In terms of politics, how are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to determine who gets to be within the thirty so

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<v Speaker 1>called independence or you know, considering the broad spectrum of

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<v Speaker 1>politics on either side of the R and D same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just it's it's sort of like, well, no,

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<v Speaker 3>That does not answer the question, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that that individual clearly doesn't understand the highest

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<v Speaker 2>voting rules. First of all, there's no such thing as

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<v Speaker 2>a registered Democratic or registered Republican in Ohio. What happens

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<v Speaker 2>in Ohio is you select your party primary ballot in

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<v Speaker 2>open primaries. So, if you Brian, you committed you conservative

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<v Speaker 2>leaning or liberty meaning conservative as I knowed you to be,

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<v Speaker 2>did you decided you wanted to be a Democrat? All

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do is walk into the polling location

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<v Speaker 2>saying I want a Democrat ballot. That doesn't you're not

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<v Speaker 2>registered with any party, you don't know any allegiance. So

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<v Speaker 2>this guy was wrong when he said seventy percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the Highlands were independents. I look at this data every

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<v Speaker 2>single day. I look at it more more than that

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<v Speaker 2>this time of year, and there's there are very few

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<v Speaker 2>actually people that are considered independence. Ultimately, when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the balloting, and some people may consider themselves that

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<v Speaker 2>that they're voting, trends show them to be in one

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<v Speaker 2>party or the other. But you've also nailed another important

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<v Speaker 2>component of this thing, and that is when you draw

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<v Speaker 2>these lines proportionally according to its language, you must draw

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<v Speaker 2>them by political affiliation, right Bran. That is the definition

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<v Speaker 2>of Jerry Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know anyhow, and the formula to get

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<v Speaker 1>from here to there is so crazy. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Chranth, I feel I can't think enough. If if

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<v Speaker 1>all the Republicans get the message, and I imagine you

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<v Speaker 1>would strongly encourage every one of my listening audiences to

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<v Speaker 1>spread the word on this to their Republican or Conservative

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<v Speaker 1>leading friends. Did an outright know on issue one, the

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<v Speaker 1>way the state is trending, Trump's ahead, I think eight

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<v Speaker 1>points or something. Bernie Moreno, actually I think is ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>The most recent memo internal memo within the Republicans. If

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<v Speaker 1>everybody would vote know on this, we would be okay

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<v Speaker 1>if the state goes the direction it's currently going.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, then I would urge people to read the

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<v Speaker 2>language to the language is very clear about what this does.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank god Republicans on the ballot board and both

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<v Speaker 2>on the Supreme Court, you know, put the appropriate language

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<v Speaker 2>before Ohio voter. So look read the language.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>It puts jerrymandering into our constitution. It puts an unelected

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<v Speaker 2>bureaucracy in charge of the process that affects your life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a no vote on Issue one. Tell all your

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<v Speaker 2>friends follow us on social media. We've done a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of social media on this, on Facebook and Twitter. It's

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<v Speaker 2>on our website as well. So don't believe all those ads.

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<v Speaker 2>Those ads are twenty five million dollars of out of

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<v Speaker 2>state money pouring into Ohio trying to convince Ohilands, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>So ignore all that vote.

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<v Speaker 1>No and look at the list of those who the

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<v Speaker 1>endorsed organizations who have endorsed Issue one. It's a litany

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<v Speaker 1>of unions and left wing organizations top to bottom, Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Trantefila ahead of the legal women.

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<v Speaker 2>Voters being first among them. That's a left wing intro scoop.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't be pooled by that left Legal Women Voters

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just one of a whole bunch of them too.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Alex Chrantefila out of the Republican Party here

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<v Speaker 1>in the state of Aye. We'll talk again. Keep up

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