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Speaker 1: El Mincho was killed in a military raid in jal
Speaker 1: Seco after he was seriously injured in a shootout, dying
Speaker 1: during a air transfer to Mexico City. The US provided
Speaker 1: intelligence support for the operation and confirmed by a Mexican
Speaker 1: defense ministry the US had designated the jel Cinco New
Speaker 1: Generation cartel as a terror organization and offered a reward
Speaker 1: for information leading to Elmncho's capture. Following his death, the
Speaker 1: violent protests with roadblocks and burning vehicles occurred in uh
Speaker 1: j Sinco and other states in Mexico. That was, of course,
Speaker 1: over the weekend and coming into the well at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the week most of the of the civil
Speaker 1: unrest was over and things started to return back to
Speaker 1: normal form Mexico and it well. One of the more
Speaker 1: interesting parts about the whole operation and the is with
Speaker 1: the US involvement because some of the civil unrests is
Speaker 1: shall we say, typical of how certain types of operations
Speaker 1: happened for the United States so that the US can
Speaker 1: get control of particular governments. And we know that right
Speaker 1: now that the Mexican President and of course the US
Speaker 1: President are at odds, especially when we look at some
Speaker 1: of the illegal actions that are happening with ICE and
Speaker 1: how master deportations without due process are happening, and they
Speaker 1: can't actually answer the question. Ice can't answer always answer
Speaker 1: the question of where are those people that they are
Speaker 1: supposed to be deporting, which brings in the question about
Speaker 1: human rights and with ICE. And I'm going to use
Speaker 1: that as a segment to talk about the United Nations
Speaker 1: Human Rights Council, and in Geneva right now they're the
Speaker 1: sixty first, sixty first session of the United Nations Human
Speaker 1: Rights Council is happening with questions about different things are
Speaker 1: happening around the world and what is human rights. The
Speaker 1: Human Rights Council opened in Geneva, and Antonio Guerrera is
Speaker 1: the Secretary General of the United Nations ward human rights
Speaker 1: are under attack globally. He said this that this is
Speaker 1: not coming from the shadows. It is happening in plain
Speaker 1: sight and often led by those who lead, who hold
Speaker 1: the greatest power. Antonio Guerra's blamed political choices and donor shifts,
Speaker 1: citing the US President Donald Trump twenty twenty five eight
Speaker 1: cuts and other major donors following suit weakening the rights,
Speaker 1: weakening rights enforcement across conflicts from Sudan to Mira. Mark
Speaker 1: Gotaris pointed out a massive VENs suffering and said humanitarian
Speaker 1: needs are exploding while funding is collapsing targets targeting refugees, LGBTQ, communities, minorities,
Speaker 1: and indigenous people. You and Human Rights Office is now
Speaker 1: in survival mode, according to guitarists and as funding shortnesses
Speaker 1: and blockages of twenty twenty five investigations and Washington paid
Speaker 1: for one hundred and six million dollars of over four
Speaker 1: billion ode. Uh So, needless to say, and we're going
Speaker 1: to say it anyway.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: The United States, under the tutelage of Donald Trump, has
Speaker 1: withdrawn from the Human Rights Council and will not resume
Speaker 1: funding for the agency helping Palestine refugees and has announced
Speaker 1: by and the US previously left the Human Rights Council
Speaker 1: last year, cutting funding to UNDRA and other after allegations
Speaker 1: from Israel of how it housed militants.
Speaker 3: M H.
Speaker 1: We can't blame the entire organization for what a few
Speaker 1: may or may not have done. Trump to announcement to
Speaker 1: coincide with the meeting with Israeli Prime Minister of Benjamin
Speaker 1: Nan Yahoo, who claims that both the rights UH body
Speaker 1: and UNRA are biased against Israel. Well in some some respects.
Speaker 1: According to some some reports UH that both UH Yahoo
Speaker 1: and Trump deny that. Well, Israel was one of the
Speaker 1: biggest violators of human rights, especially by cutting off humanitarian
Speaker 1: efforts and leaving hundreds of thousands, including children, to left
Speaker 1: to die in destitute areas after the IDEF went through
Speaker 1: and destroyed homes and attacked civilians. So they just left
Speaker 1: people left to die. That's not a violation of human rights. Well,
Speaker 1: point out a more hard example, you know, the decision
Speaker 1: to end the funding for under the legislation halted American
Speaker 1: funding until March twenty twenty five, can firming that it
Speaker 1: would not be restored under Donald Trump. Okay, let's talk
Speaker 1: about Donald Trump and well global programs. This isn't surprising
Speaker 1: to us at all, because Donald Trump pulled out of
Speaker 1: Paris Agreements other types of climate actions citing and he
Speaker 1: has cited in the you in General Assembly as one
Speaker 1: of the global leaders he said he outrights, said that
Speaker 1: all of that stuff and the LGBTQ movements and indigenous
Speaker 1: movements are hurtful to all the countries around the world
Speaker 1: and it should be disbanded. He actually said that, he
Speaker 1: said that by inviting diversity into the into the ranks
Speaker 1: of of global leadership that it is it is hurtful
Speaker 1: to all countries who are adopting diverse ways of doing things. Well,
Speaker 1: then why this should not be a surprise that the
Speaker 1: the United States is pulling out of the Human Rights Council,
Speaker 1: That maybe we should be looking even closer at some
Speaker 1: of the human rights violations that are being caused by
Speaker 1: the US federal government by way of what they what
Speaker 1: it's called ice. Maybe we should be looking a little
Speaker 1: closer at that. Well, all that is being said about
Speaker 1: the United States, if we look at Canada, where we're
Speaker 1: actually broadcasting from, they are total support of the Human
Speaker 1: Rights Council, and while they did have they still do
Speaker 1: have some question marks about the actions of UNRA and
Speaker 1: some of the individuals within UNRA. They are not in
Speaker 1: total support of disbanding the organization and or disbanding aid
Speaker 1: to the Balastinian people who need to rebuild their homes.
Speaker 1: So along with that, we're actually going to hear well
Speaker 1: because there were some question marks about what is happening,
Speaker 1: uh with the conflicts of Sudan and me or Mar.
Speaker 1: We're going to hear a little bit more about UH
Speaker 1: what is happening in Sudan with human rights and and
Speaker 1: UH at the Human Rights Council about uh what is
Speaker 1: going on in Sudan and how the the people there
Speaker 1: are recovering and how civilians are simply just trying to
Speaker 1: avoid some of the fighting there. So we'll hear more
Speaker 1: about that, and we will hear some brief statements from
Speaker 1: other leadership within the Human Rights Council. As the sixty
Speaker 1: first session of the Human Rights Council began. So why
Speaker 1: don't we move forward and listen to today's show.
Speaker 3: Secretary General of the United Nations, Director General of the
Speaker 3: United Nations Office at Geneva, High Commissioner for Human Rights,
Speaker 3: Vice President of the Federal Council and Head of the
Speaker 3: Federal Department of Foreign Affairs of Switzerland. I think the
Speaker 3: excellencies distinguished participants, I hereby declare open the sixty first
Speaker 3: session of the Human Rights Council.
Speaker 4: It is my great honor to welcome you all today.
Speaker 3: Your strong presence, with over one hundred and twenty high
Speaker 3: level dignitaries from all regions, sends a powerful and unmistakable
Speaker 3: message that this Council matters, that human rights matter, and
Speaker 3: that multilateral cooperation remains indispensable in navigating our shared challenges,
Speaker 3: even amid pressures on the foundations of multilateralism. Your presence
Speaker 3: reaffirms the determination enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations,
Speaker 3: and that is to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights,
Speaker 3: in the dignity and worth of the human persons, and
Speaker 3: in the equal rights of men and women and of
Speaker 3: nations large and small. As we mark the twentieth year
Speaker 3: since the establishment of the Human Rights Council, we reflect
Speaker 3: not only on two decades of meaningful contributions, from fostering
Speaker 3: dialogue and cooperation among states, to advancing norms and standards,
Speaker 3: to strengthening accountability mechanisms, but also on the resiliency of
Speaker 3: this body. The Council has evolved, it has expanded its tools,
Speaker 3: it has responded to emerging crises, and it remains a
Speaker 3: central pillar of the international human rights architecture, from digital
Speaker 3: and technological risks to the packs of climate change, conflict,
Speaker 3: inequality and food insecurity. The Council has sought not only
Speaker 3: to deliberate, but to promote tangible improvements on the ground.
Speaker 3: This sustained engagement reflects the Councils enduring relevance and our
Speaker 3: shared commitment to universal respect for human rights, guided by universality, objectivity,
Speaker 3: non selectivity, and the equal treatment of all rights, including
Speaker 3: the right to development. At the same time, you must
Speaker 3: acknowledge the ongoing financial constraints within the United Nations have
Speaker 3: affected our collective ability to fully implement our mandates. The
Speaker 3: other that yet, rather than retreat, these contraints compel us
Speaker 3: to act with greater resolve, to innovate, remain responsive, and
Speaker 3: reinforce the multiple layers of the global human rights architecture.
Speaker 3: Regional organizations and national human rights institutions, alongside civil society,
Speaker 3: are therefore the Council's indispensable partners. Let this session therefore
Speaker 3: serve as a renewed call to listen, to cooperate, and
Speaker 3: to act and mark the Council's rights to the demands
Speaker 3: of the moment. Excellencies distinguished participants. Before handing over the
Speaker 3: floor to our distinguished guests for their opening statements, I
Speaker 3: now call on the Council to observe a moment of
Speaker 3: silence in memory of all victims of human rights violations
Speaker 3: around the world.
Speaker 5: Distinguished President of the Human Rights Council, High Commissioner, Excellencies,
Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen. Human rights are under a full scale
Speaker 5: attack around the world. The rule of law is being
Speaker 5: out muscled by the rule of force, and this assault
Speaker 5: is not coming from the shadows or by surprise. It
Speaker 5: is happening in plain sight and often led by those
Speaker 5: who hold the greatest power. Around the world, human rights
Speaker 5: are being pushed back, deliberately, strategically.
Speaker 2: And sometimes proudly.
Speaker 5: The consequences are devasting, as witnessed in the Council and
Speaker 5: as written in the lives of people who suffer twice,
Speaker 5: first from violence, oppression or exclusion, and then again from
Speaker 5: the world's indifference. Where human rights fall, everything else trembles peace, development,
Speaker 5: social coision, trust, solidarity. This is precisely why the tools
Speaker 5: of Human Rights Counsel, such as the special rapportereurs, special procedures,
Speaker 5: investigative mechanisms and universal periodic review are essential, and it
Speaker 5: is precisely why as we mark the Council's twenty anniversary,
Speaker 5: we also recognize it's more important than ever to translate
Speaker 5: geopolitical engagement into a past towards strengthening human rights everywhere. Excellencies,
Speaker 5: Tomorrow I should address the Security Council on the force
Speaker 5: anniversary of Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine, where more
Speaker 5: than fifty thousand civilians have been killed.
Speaker 2: It is more than pastime to end the bloodshed.
Speaker 5: I began these months speaking to the Committee on the
Speaker 5: Exercise of the Inaliable Rights of the Palestinian People about
Speaker 5: blatant violations of human rights, human dignity and international law
Speaker 5: in the occupied Palestinian territory. The current trajectory is dark,
Speaker 5: clear and purpose. The two state solution is being stripped
Speaker 5: away in broad daylight. The international community cannot allow these
Speaker 5: to happen. And a few days ago I was at
Speaker 5: the African Union Summit where Sudan, the Democratic Republic of
Speaker 5: the Congo.
Speaker 2: The Sayel and other crises were front and center. Extencies.
Speaker 5: We are living in a world where must suffering is excused,
Speaker 5: a way where humans are used as bargaining chips where
Speaker 5: international law is treated as a mere inconvenience. Conflicts are multiplying,
Speaker 5: and the impunity has become a contangent that is not
Speaker 5: due to a lack of knowledge, tools, or institutions, is
Speaker 5: the result of political choices. The crisis of respect for
Speaker 5: human rights does not stand alone. It mirrors and magnifies
Speaker 5: every other global fracture. Humanitarian need are exploding, while funding collapses.
Speaker 5: Inequalities are widening at staggering speed. Countries are drowning in
Speaker 5: debt and despair. Climate chaos is accelerating, and technology, especially
Speaker 5: artificial intelligence, is increasingly be used in ways that suppress rights,
Speaker 5: deeper inequality, and expose marginalized people to new forms of discrimination.
Speaker 2: Both online and offline.
Speaker 5: Across every front, those who are already vulnerable are being
Speaker 5: pushed further to the margins, and human rights defenders are
Speaker 5: among the first to be silenced when they try to
Speaker 5: warn us in discordinated offensive human rights are the first
Speaker 5: casualty we see it in a tightening grip on civic space,
Speaker 5: Journalists and activists jailed and all shut down. Women's rights
Speaker 5: rolled back, children's rights ignored, persons with disabilities excluded. Democracy's
Speaker 5: eroding the right of peaceful assembly crushed, and I can
Speaker 5: then once again the recent violent repression of protests in Iran.
Speaker 5: Migrants arrested, arrested and expelled with total disregard.
Speaker 2: For their human rights and their humanity.
Speaker 5: Refugees escape, goats, LGBTIQ plus communities, villy five minorities and
Speaker 5: indigenous peoples targeted, religious communities attacked. Online space is poisoned
Speaker 5: by these information and hate, resulting in.
Speaker 2: Real world harm exceencies.
Speaker 5: Human rights are not a slogan for good times, direct
Speaker 5: duty at all times, and so we must stand up
Speaker 5: for them and even when it is difficult and convenient
Speaker 5: or costly, especially then that requires action on sri urgent fronts. First,
Speaker 5: we must defend our shared foundations without compromise. Duvent Charter,
Speaker 5: Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the internationals of international
Speaker 5: human rights law are not a menu. Leaders cannot pick
Speaker 5: the parts they like and ignore the rest, and human.
Speaker 2: Rights themselves are also not divisible.
Speaker 5: Economic rights, social rights, cultural rights, civil rights, and political rights.
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Speaker 5: power of human rights. After all, human rights are not
Speaker 5: only what we defend, they are what lifts the world.
Speaker 2: To a better place.
Speaker 5: When rights are upheld, people live more freely, economies grow
Speaker 5: more fairly, communities trust more deeply, and peace and stability
Speaker 5: take old because dignity takes root. Human rights are not
Speaker 5: an obstacle to progress. They are essential to progress. We
Speaker 5: have seen it at time and time again all over
Speaker 5: the world. Where rights advance, conflict loses ground, Where justice strengthscends,
Speaker 5: violent extremism weakens, Where equality expands, possibility explodes.
Speaker 2: Where freedom prevails, societies flourish.
Speaker 5: And so we must change course and that human dignity
Speaker 5: is set the direction by renewer our commitment to respect
Speaker 5: for the rule of law at every level, by supporting
Speaker 5: the pivotal work of the International Court of Justice and
Speaker 5: International Criminal Court, by delivering on the sustainable development goals,
Speaker 5: by accelerating climate action, by upholding what makes us human.
Speaker 2: Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 5: In my first address to this Council as Secretary General,
Speaker 5: I spoke of a deep personal commitment to human rights.
Speaker 5: Growing under the Salazar dictatorship taught me that the denial
Speaker 5: of human rights corrodes every aspect of society. Working for
Speaker 5: the United Nations has shown me our respect for human
Speaker 5: rights brings out the best in humanity, And now, in
Speaker 5: my tense year at the helm of U N the
Speaker 5: power of human rights has never been more clear. Human
Speaker 5: rights are not west or easts, north or south. They
Speaker 5: are not a luxury, They are not negotiable. They are
Speaker 5: the foundation of a more peaceful and secure world, and
Speaker 5: states are bound by their obligations under the Charter and
Speaker 5: international law. We still have much work ahead together, but
Speaker 5: since this is my final address to the opening of
Speaker 5: your session, I leave you with this appeal. Do not
Speaker 5: let the erosion of human rights become the accepted price
Speaker 5: of political expediency or geopolitical competition. Do not let power
Speaker 5: write a new rule book in which the vulnerable have
Speaker 5: no rights and the powerful have no limits. Let these
Speaker 5: human rights counsel be the voice and shields for all
Speaker 5: those in needs. Let this be the place that helps
Speaker 5: end the broad and brutal assault on human rights, because
Speaker 5: the world that protects human rights protects itself.
Speaker 6: And I thank you, mister President of the Human Rights Council,
Speaker 6: Miss Secretary General, excellencies. A fierce competition for power, control,
Speaker 6: and resources is playing out on the world stage at
Speaker 6: a rate and intensity unseen for the past eighty years.
Speaker 6: People are feeling unmoored, anxious, and insecure.
Speaker 4: The gears of global power are.
Speaker 6: Shifting, and the consequences are not clear. Some are signaling
Speaker 6: the end of the world order as we know it.
Speaker 6: But today I want to talk about another world order,
Speaker 6: one that is organized from the ground up and that
Speaker 6: is unshakable, a foundational system of how people relate to
Speaker 6: each other based on our inherent worth, our hopes, and
Speaker 6: our common values.
Speaker 4: I'm referring to.
Speaker 6: The people's pursuit of dignity, equality and justice. This quest
Speaker 6: is innate to what makes us human, to be free,
Speaker 6: to be heard, and to have our basic needs met,
Speaker 6: and it is a strong counterbalance to the top down
Speaker 6: autocratic trends that we see today. The use of force
Speaker 6: to resolve disputes between and within countries is becoming normalist
Speaker 6: inflammatory threats against sovereign nations are thrown about with no
Speaker 6: regard to the fire they could ignite.
Speaker 4: The laws of war are being brutally violated.
Speaker 6: Mass civilian suffering from Sudan to Gaza, to Ukraine to
Speaker 6: Myanmar is unfolding before our eyes.
Speaker 4: In Sudan, their needs to be accountability for all.
Speaker 6: Violations by all parties, notably the war crimes and possible
Speaker 6: crimes against humanity committed by their rapid support forces in Alfashire.
Speaker 6: Such atrocities must not be repeated in Cordo, fun or elsewhere,
Speaker 6: and all those with influence need to act urgently to
Speaker 6: put an end to this senseless war. The situation in
Speaker 6: Gaza remains catastrophic. Palestinians are still dying from Israeli fire, cold, hunger,
Speaker 6: and treatable disease. The aid allowed in is not enough
Speaker 6: to meet the massive needs. There are concerns over ethnic
Speaker 6: cleansing in both Gaza and the West Bank, while Israel
Speaker 6: is accelerating efforts to consolidate unlawful annexation. Any sustainable solution
Speaker 6: must be based on two states living side by side
Speaker 6: in equal dignity and rights, in line with you and
Speaker 6: resolutions and international law tomorrow my four years since Russia's
Speaker 6: full scale invasion of Ukraine, four interminable and agonizing years,
Speaker 6: civilian casualties have soared, and Russia's systematic attacks on Ukraine's
Speaker 6: energy and water infrastructure could amount to international crimes. The
Speaker 6: fighting needs to end, and I urge a focus on
Speaker 6: human rights and justice in any ceasefire or peace agreement.
Speaker 6: In Myanmar, five years after the military coup, the awful
Speaker 6: conflict is claiming even more civilian lives and the humanitarian
Speaker 6: situation continues to deteriorate. The recent elections staged by the
Speaker 6: military have only deepened people's despair. Across most violent conflicts, Today, journalists,
Speaker 6: health and aid workers are targeted in platent violation of
Speaker 6: international law. These actions must not be allowed to harden
Speaker 6: into the new normal. States needs to be persistent objectors
Speaker 6: to violations of the law by pursuing accountability and by
Speaker 6: clearly denouncing these egregious crimes with consistency and without exception. Meanwhile,
Speaker 6: violence and tensions are researching in some countries, including South
Speaker 6: Sudan and Ethiopia, and authorities in Iran have violently repressed
Speaker 6: mass protests with lethal force killing thousands. I will provide
Speaker 6: more detail on these and other country situations in my
Speaker 6: Global Update later this week. Excellencies, developments around the world
Speaker 6: point to a deeply worrying trend. Domination and supremacy are
Speaker 6: making a comeback. If we listen to the rhetoric of
Speaker 6: some leaders. What works behind it is a belief that
Speaker 6: they are above the law and above the Yuan Charter.
Speaker 6: They claim exceptional status, exceptional danger, or exceptional moral judgment
Speaker 6: to pursue their own agenda at any cost, and why
Speaker 6: wouldn't they try when they are unlikely to face consequences.
Speaker 6: They build and sustain systems that perpetuate inequalities within and
Speaker 6: between countries. Some weaponize their economic leverage. They spread this
Speaker 6: information to distract, silence, and marginalize. A tight clique of
Speaker 6: tech tycoons controls an outside proportion of global information flows,
Speaker 6: distorting public debate, markets, and even governance systems.
Speaker 4: Corporate and state interests.
Speaker 6: Ravage our environment, robbing the riches of the earth for
Speaker 6: their own gain. But at the same time, people are
Speaker 6: not watching all this from the sidelines. They are activating
Speaker 6: their power from the ground up. Women and young people
Speaker 6: especially are leading these movements. They are claiming their rights
Speaker 6: to base living conditions, to fair pay, to bodily autonomy,
Speaker 6: to self determination.
Speaker 4: To be heard, to vote freely, and many other rights.
Speaker 6: From Nepal to Madagascar, from Serbia to Peru and beyond,
Speaker 6: people are demanding equality and denouncing corruption, neighbors and communities
Speaker 6: standing up for each other, sometimes even risking their lives.
Speaker 6: People are protesting war and in justice in places far
Speaker 6: from home, expressing solidarity and pressuring their governments to act.
Speaker 6: They see human rights as a practical force for good,
Speaker 6: and they are right. Human rights are anathema to supremacy.
Speaker 6: They are a direct challenge to those who seek and
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Speaker 6: we do not take their achievements for granted. Tyranny will
Speaker 6: seize any chance and exploit any opening. We must keep
Speaker 6: standing up for human rights in solidarity with each other,
Speaker 6: and when we come together, we wield more power than
Speaker 6: any autocrat or tech billionaire. The struggle for human rights
Speaker 6: can never be derailed by the whims of a handful
Speaker 6: of leaders with reactionary supremacist agendas. While some states are
Speaker 6: weakening the multilateral system, we need bolder and more joined
Speaker 6: up responses. First, this means calling out violations of international law,
Speaker 6: regardless of the perpetrators. Too often, denouncing violations by one
Speaker 6: party is labeled as siding with the enemy. In reality,
Speaker 6: it is upholding the universality and the pursuit of justice
Speaker 6: for all. The alternative, selective, fragmented responses weakens international law
Speaker 6: and hurts us all. The entire human rights ecosystem is
Speaker 6: designed to promote universality and insure consistency. This includes the
Speaker 6: tools that are mandated by this Council, and I condemn
Speaker 6: all attacks against them. Second, we need stronger commitment to accountability.
Speaker 6: This includes strengthening the International Criminal Court and encouraging national
Speaker 6: prosecutions under the principle of universal jurisdiction, we need to
Speaker 6: increase the cost of breaking international law. Third, let's forge
Speaker 6: coalitions to champion what unites us and uphold equality, dignity
Speaker 6: and justice for all. We must protect the diversity of
Speaker 6: the human family and demonstrate what we gain by standing together.
Speaker 6: In the coming weeks, we will set in motion a
Speaker 6: global alliance for human rights to capture the energy and
Speaker 6: commitment that is palpable everywhere. It will be cross regional,
Speaker 6: multi stakeholder involving states, businesses, cities, philanthropists, scientists, artists, philosoph
Speaker 6: with young people and civil society. It will confront top
Speaker 6: down domination with grassroots solidarity and support. It will represent
Speaker 6: the quiet majority who want a different world. Human rights
Speaker 6: are not a political currency. They are not up for grabs.
Speaker 6: Our future depends on our joint commitment to defend every
Speaker 6: person's rights, every time, everywhere.
Speaker 7: Thank you, good afternoon everyone. Sorry for the delay. Thank
Speaker 7: you for joining us at this press conference with the
Speaker 7: International with the Independent International Fact Finding Mission for the Sudan,
Speaker 7: which was created by the Human Rights Council in twenty
Speaker 7: twenty three to investigate all alleged violations that have occurred
Speaker 7: in the context of the ongoing armed conflict. The mission
Speaker 7: released its latest rep this morning and we'll present those
Speaker 7: findings to the Human Rights Council next week. And now
Speaker 7: they're here to answer any questions that you may have.
Speaker 7: Joining us today by Zoom or the Chair of the
Speaker 7: Fact Finding Mission, mister Mohammed chan day Affman, and fellow
Speaker 7: expert Miss Joy and Gozi Yazello. And here in the
Speaker 7: room in Geneva with me is Miss Mona Rishmaui. We'll
Speaker 7: start off with brief opening statements by each of the
Speaker 7: experts and then we'll open the floor to your questions.
Speaker 7: One of the experts may be having a slight difficulty
Speaker 7: with her connection, so I'm not sure if either the
Speaker 7: Chair or Professor and Iszello should go first, but perhaps
Speaker 7: one of you please go ahead, and if missus Ello
Speaker 7: cannot join, we would ask mister the Chair to read
Speaker 7: both statements, so please go ahead.
Speaker 8: Yeah, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. On behalf of the.
Speaker 9: Effect Finding Mission Sudan. Let me say the following. The
Speaker 9: fact Finding Mission finds that the eighteen months siege of
Speaker 9: Alfasha that preceded the takeover of the city on twenty sixth.
Speaker 9: On twenty seventh of October was used systematically dismantled the
Speaker 9: means of survival of his predominantly non urt population. Particularly
Speaker 9: There's a gawain Full, culminating in catastrophic humanitarian collapse out
Speaker 9: there is unfold From mid twenty twenty four, the rapids
Speaker 9: are Word Forces RSF encircled encircled the city, cutting off food, water, electricity,
Speaker 9: and medical supplies, while subjugating residential areas, displacement camps, markets,
Speaker 9: and places of worship to repeated shelling and drone strikes.
Speaker 9: He then burns developed by the RSF and trenches extending
Speaker 9: over thirty one kilometers around Alfasha, restricted civilian movements and
Speaker 9: effectively and trammed its population. The RSF also launched ground
Speaker 9: attacks and displacement camps and then fashion neighborhoods, destroying and
Speaker 9: looting markets. A humanitarian convoy were blocked, and community kitchens
Speaker 9: providing little food that remained in the city were also attacking.
Speaker 9: Survivors reported surviving on animal folder called amboos, tree leaves,
Speaker 9: and residual oil. Children and the elderly died from malnutrition,
Speaker 9: water systems were damaged and destroyed, posing reliance on unsafe
Speaker 9: sources of water and accelerating diseases. Medical services also collapsed,
Speaker 9: so by the time of the takeover on twenty fifth
Speaker 9: or twenty sixth of October, only one remaining hospital was functional,
Speaker 9: but following the hour safe entry into Elfashare, that facility,
Speaker 9: Al Saudi Hospital, ceased operating. Pestis suffering from pitable disease
Speaker 9: or moderate injuries died.
Speaker 8: For lack of care.
Speaker 9: Injured and sub civilians were forced to flee on foot
Speaker 9: for days without full water or medical assistance. That siege
Speaker 9: was followed by massive displacement, and estimated one hundred thousand
Speaker 9: people fled in later October alone. According to United Nations
Speaker 9: Resident and Humanitarian Coordinator for the Sudan, many families were
Speaker 9: separated during their flight, either to increase their chances of
Speaker 9: survival or amid the chaos of a pursuing them on
Speaker 9: the road and out of the city. Hundreds of children
Speaker 9: arrived in safe areas without their parents or any family members.
Speaker 9: So participants or the survivors described Fashire as a ghost town.
Speaker 9: Physical destruction was compounded by profound psychological trauma and survivors
Speaker 9: reportedly and during starvation, witnessing family members killed and or
Speaker 9: repel subjected to other sexual violence, and disappearance of the
Speaker 9: loved ones. Many remain desperate and the knowledge of their
Speaker 9: whereabouts is still unknown. Their suffering is compounded by the
Speaker 9: loss of bread winners in their families, living a woman
Speaker 9: and children in extreme vulnerability. The culminative effect of prolonged starvation,
Speaker 9: denial humanitarian aid and medical care, and restricted movements and
Speaker 9: targeted violence rendered survival increasingly impossible for the affected communities,
Speaker 9: creating condition of life incapable with human survival.
Speaker 8: Lending person to Professor Joey is zier.
Speaker 4: On me, thank you, thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 10: Yes, Continuing our finding, The Independent Fact Finding Mission for
Speaker 10: the Sudan has concluded that the takeover of Alfacshire in
Speaker 10: late October twenty twenty five was marked by mass Kellen's
Speaker 10: widespread rape, obituary detention and enforced disappearances committed by the
Speaker 10: rapid support for this arressive Over the course of the
Speaker 10: three days, civilians and those all the combo attempting to
Speaker 10: flee were intercepted, separated and executed at exit point, and
Speaker 10: our long eating burns surrounding the city. Survivors described men
Speaker 10: being bound and shot in groups, bodies left unburied along roots,
Speaker 10: and wounded persings executed at kilose range. In some instances,
Speaker 10: women and children were also killed. Verified videos and satellite
Speaker 10: imagery corroborate accounts of mass killings, including at El Fashire
Speaker 10: University and the former Children's Hospital, which was converted into
Speaker 10: a detention and execution site.
Speaker 8: Hospitals were not spared.
Speaker 10: At El Saudi Hospital, RSL fighters went to work by word,
Speaker 10: killing patients, doctors and accompanying family members were killed in
Speaker 10: large numbers. Survivors reported that over four hundred and sixty
Speaker 10: people presenting the hospital were executed, and satellite imagery indicate
Speaker 10: subsequent burning of bodies. Sexual and gender based violence was possessivetic, systematic,
Speaker 10: and ethnically targeted. Women and girls seven to seventeen were
Speaker 10: subjected to rape, mass and gang grape, and other forms
Speaker 10: of sexual and gender based violence, including killings, wheeping, beating, humiliation,
Speaker 10: first nudity, and sexual harassment, while being robbed of their belongings,
Speaker 10: often in front of family members or among copsies. Survivors
Speaker 10: reported the perpetrate that perpetrators explicitly targeted women from non
Speaker 10: Arab communities, particularly the Zagawa, using dehumanizing and exymmetry languages,
Speaker 10: a language with numerous women and girls being raped during
Speaker 10: the seven incident, indicating that the cases documented by the
Speaker 10: Mission represent only a fraction of a wider pattern. Segul
Speaker 10: violence was used deliberately to terrorize and destroy the social fabric.
Speaker 10: The social fabric of the targeted communities. Survivors offered severe
Speaker 10: physical and psychological harm, laughing, trauma, and in some cases debt,
Speaker 10: highlighting the extreme vulnerability and gendered impact of the conflict.
Speaker 10: The mission also documented the widespread forms of torture and
Speaker 10: correct treatment, habituality, detention and for disappearances and extortion. Men
Speaker 10: and boys were separated from women and children at checkspoint
Speaker 10: and burns, detained in trucks, shipping containers, and makeshift facilities,
Speaker 10: and subjected to severe beatings, burning, mutilation, and humiliation.
Speaker 8: Many remain missing to date.
Speaker 10: Ransom demands we have frequently issued the families with hire
Speaker 10: songs demanded on based on ethnicity, so this scale, coordinational
Speaker 10: reputation and public endorsement of this act by ARS leadership
Speaker 10: demonstrate that these were not isolated incidents but part of
Speaker 10: a planned, unorganized operation executed through an established command structure.
Speaker 10: Mister Chair, Legist and gentlemen of the Press, I passed
Speaker 10: on to my colleague Munarihwama.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
Speaker 7: Thank you Chair and.
Speaker 8: Professor Azilo.
Speaker 11: Let me now address what does this pattern that was
Speaker 11: described by the Chair and the Professor Azilo means in law?
Speaker 11: When we assess the totality of the overwhelming evidence that
Speaker 11: we gathered. You saw, my professor Rosilo was talking about
Speaker 11: killings in particular places that we documented, in locations that
Speaker 11: we know about, and we assess this overwhelming evidence, the
Speaker 11: scale of the killings, the systematic nature of sexual violence,
Speaker 11: the deliberate starvation, and the targeting specific ethnic communities. In
Speaker 11: this case it's the Zagawa and the four. A broader,
Speaker 11: more alarming legal conclusion emerges based on the pattern, consolidation, scale,
Speaker 11: systematic nature, and cumulative effect of these crimes. There is
Speaker 11: only one possible conclusion. It's an indication of a path
Speaker 11: of genocide. Our mission found that at least three of
Speaker 11: the under lying acts of genocide have been committed, and
Speaker 11: any of these acts, if committed by with the with
Speaker 11: the intention to destroy specific ethnic, ethnic national or racial
Speaker 11: group could constitute genocide. So the three underlying acts are
Speaker 11: killings of members of a protected group in this case
Speaker 11: is the Zagawa and the Four, causing serious bodily harm,
Speaker 11: mental bodily and mental harm, rape, sexual violence, torture, and
Speaker 11: so on, and deliberately in fact, inflicting conditions of life
Speaker 11: calculated to bring about the physical destruction of the protected
Speaker 11: group in whole or in part. The Four, Masalite and
Speaker 11: Zagawa are protected groups under international law, and already the
Speaker 11: International Criminal Court told us as that much. After carefully
Speaker 11: considering all possible alternative explanations, the Mission concluded that the
Speaker 11: only reasonable inference that can be drawn from the pattern
Speaker 11: of conduct in and around Al Fasher is that the
Speaker 11: perpetrators acted with genocidal intent. This is not a conclusion
Speaker 11: we reach lightly. It is inferred from the body of
Speaker 11: evidence as a whole, from the scale and sequence of attacks,
Speaker 11: from the coordinated mass killings and executions, from the widespread rape,
Speaker 11: from the starvation siege, from the pattern of ethnic targeting,
Speaker 11: and from the statements by the perpetrators expressing intent to
Speaker 11: eliminate and destroy these communities. The risk of further genericidal
Speaker 11: violence remains serious. And ongoing, particularly in the conflict around
Speaker 11: in Kurduvan. Therefore, our recommendations are the following. First, civilians
Speaker 11: must be protected immediately. We have already recommended the deployment
Speaker 11: of an international protection force, and this recommendation has been
Speaker 11: reiterated by the African Union and the African Commissions Join
Speaker 11: fact finding Mission. There is now an urgent lead to
Speaker 11: translate this recommendation into practice. Second, our forearms embargo must
Speaker 11: be fully enforced and expanded to cover the entire Sudan.
Speaker 11: States must prevent the transfer of weapons, ammunitions, equipment, financial
Speaker 11: and logistical support to any party implicated in the violations. Third,
Speaker 11: meaningful targeted sanctions should be imposed against those who are
Speaker 11: responsible for the atrocity climes and against those enabling them.
Speaker 11: Sanctions must be denied to disrupt them capacity to continue
Speaker 11: committing these violations. Fourth, and that's really key, unrestricted humanitarian
Speaker 11: access must be secured and freedom of movement guaranteed for civilians.
Speaker 11: We don't actually know what is happening to the people
Speaker 11: of al Fasher. Very few of them came out of
Speaker 11: Al Fasher right now, so and we know that it
Speaker 11: looks like a ghost doAnd people need to be allowed
Speaker 11: to leave if they can. Fifth, accountability is essential. Perpetrators
Speaker 11: continue to commit these crimes because they believe they can
Speaker 11: act with impunity. They must be fully There must be
Speaker 11: full cooperation with the International Criminal Court and serious condition
Speaker 11: consideration for additional judicial avenues capable of addressing atrocity crimes
Speaker 11: called atrocity crimes, particularly the general side now committed in Sudan. Sixth,
Speaker 11: the survivors must be supported. We saw them. They are
Speaker 11: in desperate conditions. They must receive sustained medical and psychological
Speaker 11: support along with meaningful reparative measures.
Speaker 4: And Seventh, avendance must be preserved.
Speaker 11: And the fate of the whereabout of the missings and
Speaker 11: deterred persons clarified. Investigative Investigative bodies such as our own
Speaker 11: mission should be granted access to Al Fasher and the
Speaker 11: surrounded areas. Today, the Security Council is meeting to discuss
Speaker 11: Souden under the presidency of the United Kingdom. This discussion
Speaker 11: must translate into concrete action. Council members should use the
Speaker 11: tools at their disposal to strengthen civilian protection, reinforce and
Speaker 11: expand the embargo, ensure strict compliance and advance accountability. Next week,
Speaker 11: we will be formally presenting our finding to the findings
Speaker 11: to the United Nations Human As Counsel. That Council, too,
Speaker 11: must respond with clarity and resolve by sustaining independent investigations,
Speaker 11: supporting protection measures, and reinforcing credible pathways to justice. So
Speaker 11: that has already showed the world the cost of hesitation.
Speaker 11: There should be no additation. The evidence is before US,
Speaker 11: legal analysis is clear, and the warning signs are unmisctakable.
Speaker 11: The responsibility now lies with states to protect civilians, to
Speaker 11: protect to prevent further destruction, and ensure accountability before more
Speaker 11: lives are lost.
Speaker 7: Thank you very much. Thank you everyone for those important
Speaker 7: opening remarks, and now we'll open the floor to questions.
Speaker 7: First we'll go to those in the room and then
Speaker 7: we'll go online. We'll start with Robin from the Agents
Speaker 7: France Press. Please go ahead. Thanks, thank you.
Speaker 12: So we're talking here about genocide and somebody must be
Speaker 12: funding this, and somebody must be providing the weapons and
Speaker 12: the material for this to happen. So my question is
Speaker 12: very blunt. Who who's providing the money and who's providing
Speaker 12: the weapons.
Speaker 11: I think this is a key question and this is
Speaker 11: really important to understand the mechanisms in which this is
Speaker 11: being done. And what I can say at this stage
Speaker 11: is that it's multiple actors, it's a complex network, and
Speaker 11: it's expanding. And what we are trying to do is
Speaker 11: to analyze this complex network and we'll be reporting on
Speaker 11: that issue very soon. I think we'll hear on us
Speaker 11: from us on this matter. So what I can also
Speaker 11: say is that we are engaging with main parties. It's
Speaker 11: called it like this main part is and we hope
Speaker 11: that they'll understand the message enough is enough. We reach
Speaker 11: the point of genocide. Now enough is enough, and really
Speaker 11: we all need to take our responsibilities seriously, and states
Speaker 11: need to take the responsibility seriously. You'll hear more from
Speaker 11: about this from us soon.
Speaker 7: Okay, thank you. Let's go to some questions online. If
Speaker 7: you could please identify yourself and the media outlet that
Speaker 7: you work for. We'll start with Musa from Alma Almaden TV.
Speaker 7: Please please go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 13: I have two of the questions please. The first one
Speaker 13: about the number of those killed and how many known
Speaker 13: Arabs and how many are Arabs and describe the second
Speaker 13: one do you have specific names of those involved in
Speaker 13: these crimes. And finally, what about the responsibility of the
Speaker 13: external powers that support the rapid support forces in these crimes?
Speaker 7: Thank you? Would the chair or Professor Gazella like to
Speaker 7: answer the question.
Speaker 14: Yeah, thank you very much. I can respond to that
Speaker 14: with regard to the number of people who have been
Speaker 14: killed as a result of the.
Speaker 9: Takeover on twenty fifth, twenty six, twenty seven, As you say,
Speaker 9: you have to look at.
Speaker 8: The human rights mechanism as working in tandem.
Speaker 9: So the of the U and High Commissioner for Human
Speaker 9: Rights has established about six thousand dead as a result of.
Speaker 8: The three days of violence. But in ourselves we have documented.
Speaker 9: Mass killings, summary executions and so on involving multipeople. The
Speaker 9: requirement for genocide is that they must be numerically, it's
Speaker 9: not the most essential element.
Speaker 8: So long as there are a sufficient number of people killed.
Speaker 9: And I think the threshold has been reached so far
Speaker 9: as the requirements both for definition of genocide are concerned.
Speaker 9: But we have documented, and you will see in our report,
Speaker 9: various killings in various groups, various numbers, sometimes sixty eight
Speaker 9: children and so on, and uh and and and and
Speaker 9: and and uh and and and and suffer because part.
Speaker 8: Of the our mandate is to identify perpetrators, and.
Speaker 9: We have identified perpetrators, including those that are in a
Speaker 9: command position, through what we call confidential dosys uh uh investigated.
Speaker 9: Of course, the report pinpoints to one individual, uh, a
Speaker 9: notorious individual, and I think this is not in any
Speaker 9: violation of his due process rights because these are something
Speaker 9: which is really in the public domain already, but we
Speaker 9: have compiled and I think this is in relation to
Speaker 9: best practices of Human Rights Commission to document names of
Speaker 9: Indian visuals persons of interest and I think this will
Speaker 9: be shared appropriately with any international or credible national judicial
Speaker 9: mechanism that is ready to exercise universal jurisdictions.
Speaker 8: And so again, I think the question of external actors was.
Speaker 9: Raised, was responded to by my colleague, and I think
Speaker 9: the most important thing is to say that we are
Speaker 9: already now engaging with a number of states and to
Speaker 9: put to them the querage that we have concerning either
Speaker 9: their involvement or their companies or entities or their nationals.
Speaker 9: And this is ongoing and will be subject to a
Speaker 9: further revelation as we move this investigation.
Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 7: We'll go next to Alicia from the Spanish news agency.
Speaker 2: I thank you for.
Speaker 8: Taking my questions.
Speaker 15: I wanted to ask because I saw in your report
Speaker 15: that you indicate that there has been an escalation from
Speaker 15: ethnically targeted attacks to add that can be considered as
Speaker 15: signs of genocide. So I wanted to know when this
Speaker 15: escalation happened and where did you see this escalation in
Speaker 15: what the science. Also I wanted to know if did
Speaker 15: you detected this targeting of ethnical minorities at the beginning
Speaker 15: of the war. Was this one of the motivations of
Speaker 15: the war. And also I wanted to know if there's
Speaker 15: going to be any approached procedures to take this to
Speaker 15: the courts or how what what are you planning to
Speaker 15: do with this evidence?
Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: I'll take this.
Speaker 11: But there is one part that I didn't understand completely.
Speaker 11: So the escalation, the escalation is really what we are seeing,
Speaker 11: and that's the pattern that I'd like. There is a
Speaker 11: part in the report about the model's operandi, about what
Speaker 11: actually what is happening, and the key point about this
Speaker 11: is that the three days of onslaught, of the slaughter
Speaker 11: that happened, the mass killings that happened in Al Fasher
Speaker 11: was preceded with eighteen months of siege. That siege weakened
Speaker 11: the population drastically. This was a siege that did not
Speaker 11: allow humanitarian assistance to get in.
Speaker 4: There was no food.
Speaker 11: When you talk to people, when you ask them what
Speaker 11: actually happened towards the and the share was describing that
Speaker 11: towards the end there was no food. People were extremely weakened.
Speaker 11: So the attack happened on very weakened people who were starving,
Speaker 11: who didn't have enough water, who didn't have enough medicine.
Speaker 4: They were drinking.
Speaker 11: Contaminated water, and therefore a lot of diseases, but no hospitals,
Speaker 11: there's nothing nutritionous tradition. So basically this smodest operandi is
Speaker 11: the escalation we saw before areas that were attacked and
Speaker 11: the moment the area was attacked, people could live to
Speaker 11: another area. In this case, the attack happened in an
Speaker 11: confined setting of al fashion and around it and preceded
Speaker 11: by months of weakening of the population. And that's really
Speaker 11: very very serious. So that pattern of on that has
Speaker 11: to stop because when you basically prevent the population from
Speaker 11: food drinking very you know, good to drinking water, and
Speaker 11: medical attention and prevent them from humanitarian It's just as
Speaker 11: what do you want you want to destroy them, you
Speaker 11: want to kill them for eighteen months, what do you
Speaker 11: wanted to exhaust? To exhaust the ability to continue living?
Speaker 11: And that's really the escalation, So that's really important. That's
Speaker 11: I think what distinguishes al Fasher from let's say, other
Speaker 11: situations that we have documented before. And that's why we
Speaker 11: are afraid that the same methods are being now used
Speaker 11: in other areas in Courdovan. That's why we it is
Speaker 11: this method of approach, this genocidal pash that must be stopped.
Speaker 11: So when you say one of the motivations is the
Speaker 11: motivation is to attack these particular ethnic groups, and I
Speaker 11: mean Alfasher is mostly the Zarawa community. In the displacement
Speaker 11: caps around it Zamzam and Abushuk, you had mostly mostly
Speaker 11: four community and a bit of Massalids, and these people
Speaker 11: came from other displacement They were displaced multiple times. So
Speaker 11: the attack was about these particular populations. And when the
Speaker 11: attackers were attacking, particularly during the rape and massive killings,
Speaker 11: and those who survived horrific massacres were telling us that
Speaker 11: the attackers were using slayers were basically looking for Zarawa's
Speaker 11: looking for food to kill them, to kill them. So
Speaker 11: we know that the intention was to destroy these people,
Speaker 11: and that's really very very serious. I hope I answered
Speaker 11: your questions. We have a manded of course to cooperate
Speaker 11: with judicial bodies, and of course we are cooperating with
Speaker 11: the judicial bodies. The International Criminal Court has a jurisdiction
Speaker 11: over the situation in Darfur, and al fashion is in
Speaker 11: the midst of Darfour is actually an important It was
Speaker 11: the capital of darfour, advanced stage of North Darfour, so
Speaker 11: it's really an important area. And so of course we
Speaker 11: are cooperating with the judicial bodies, including the International Criminal Court,
Speaker 11: but we also think that there has to be this
Speaker 11: The International Criminal Court can only do so much, very
Speaker 11: important that they work that they are doing. This is
Speaker 11: why we are recommending that there should be a separate
Speaker 11: independent institution judicial institution judicial like a court that works
Speaker 11: in tandem with the ICC and also states must must
Speaker 11: exercise universal jurisdiction. A lot of the commanders that we
Speaker 11: are talking about, and their names are everywhere in the report,
Speaker 11: travel all over all over countries that have jurisdiction to
Speaker 11: do something about it, and that's really important.
Speaker 7: Thank you. Were there any follow up questions, Alicia, from you?
Speaker 7: I think, any more questions from the room or online? Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 7: I don't see any any more. Any final statements from
Speaker 7: the chair or or fellow experts.
Speaker 4: Okay okay.
Speaker 11: I can't tell ift the chair wants to say something.
Speaker 7: Did you have anything else to say a final statement
Speaker 7: the chair?
Speaker 8: Yes, thank you very much.
Speaker 9: As we mentioned before, we will be presenting the report
Speaker 9: in detail to the members of the Human Rights Council
Speaker 9: next week and we'll be able to engage more in
Speaker 9: terms of any specifically because as we mentioned earlier, the
Speaker 9: risk of escalation still continues with.
Speaker 8: A number of cities.
Speaker 9: Cardogly Uh dealing in Cordo fun you know, under siege
Speaker 9: and siege like conditions. So I think this is something
Speaker 9: that you know, we would like to bring to the
Speaker 9: attention of the international community. So I thank if we're
Speaker 9: taking interest in our work.
Speaker 8: About it.
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