WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:23.480 Thank you for listening to De Pictures Media Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:29.359 to Policy and Rights the Show ups, Welcomer Policy, Human 3 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:59.600 Joys One, Welcome back to Policy and Rates here and 4 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:03.719 Depicture Media Radio. I'm your host Michael Cloggs. Drug lord 5 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:12.000 El Mincho was killed in a military raid in jal 6 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:17.040 Seco after he was seriously injured in a shootout, dying 7 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:21.640 during a air transfer to Mexico City. The US provided 8 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:29.680 intelligence support for the operation and confirmed by a Mexican 9 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:39.560 defense ministry the US had designated the jel Cinco New 10 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:45.280 Generation cartel as a terror organization and offered a reward 11 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:55.120 for information leading to Elmncho's capture. Following his death, the 12 00:01:55.200 --> 00:02:01.239 violent protests with roadblocks and burning vehicles occurred in uh 13 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:12.240 j Sinco and other states in Mexico. That was, of course, 14 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:21.120 over the weekend and coming into the well at the 15 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:24.919 beginning of the week most of the of the civil 16 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:29.840 unrest was over and things started to return back to 17 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:36.759 normal form Mexico and it well. One of the more 18 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:42.280 interesting parts about the whole operation and the is with 19 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:48.479 the US involvement because some of the civil unrests is 20 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:55.199 shall we say, typical of how certain types of operations 21 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:59.000 happened for the United States so that the US can 22 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:06.479 get control of particular governments. And we know that right 23 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:10.919 now that the Mexican President and of course the US 24 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:19.680 President are at odds, especially when we look at some 25 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:26.680 of the illegal actions that are happening with ICE and 26 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:35.199 how master deportations without due process are happening, and they 27 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:38.680 can't actually answer the question. Ice can't answer always answer 28 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:44.240 the question of where are those people that they are 29 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:49.199 supposed to be deporting, which brings in the question about 30 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:54.439 human rights and with ICE. And I'm going to use 31 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:58.479 that as a segment to talk about the United Nations 32 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:05.680 Human Rights Council, and in Geneva right now they're the 33 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:12.639 sixty first, sixty first session of the United Nations Human 34 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:17.120 Rights Council is happening with questions about different things are 35 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:25.040 happening around the world and what is human rights. The 36 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:29.279 Human Rights Council opened in Geneva, and Antonio Guerrera is 37 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:32.800 the Secretary General of the United Nations ward human rights 38 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:38.839 are under attack globally. He said this that this is 39 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:44.079 not coming from the shadows. It is happening in plain 40 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:50.839 sight and often led by those who lead, who hold 41 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:58.720 the greatest power. Antonio Guerra's blamed political choices and donor shifts, 42 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:04.680 citing the US President Donald Trump twenty twenty five eight 43 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:14.040 cuts and other major donors following suit weakening the rights, 44 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:22.040 weakening rights enforcement across conflicts from Sudan to Mira. Mark 45 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:29.519 Gotaris pointed out a massive VENs suffering and said humanitarian 46 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:41.040 needs are exploding while funding is collapsing targets targeting refugees, LGBTQ, communities, minorities, 47 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:47.399 and indigenous people. You and Human Rights Office is now 48 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:54.600 in survival mode, according to guitarists and as funding shortnesses 49 00:05:54.720 --> 00:06:00.879 and blockages of twenty twenty five investigations and Washington paid 50 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:06.480 for one hundred and six million dollars of over four 51 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:18.199 billion ode. Uh So, needless to say, and we're going 52 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:19.639 to say it anyway. 53 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:19.680 But. 54 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:32.399 The United States, under the tutelage of Donald Trump, has 55 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:37.240 withdrawn from the Human Rights Council and will not resume 56 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:43.680 funding for the agency helping Palestine refugees and has announced 57 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:50.279 by and the US previously left the Human Rights Council 58 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:55.879 last year, cutting funding to UNDRA and other after allegations 59 00:06:55.879 --> 00:07:01.560 from Israel of how it housed militants. 60 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:02.560 M H. 61 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:09.639 We can't blame the entire organization for what a few 62 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:22.319 may or may not have done. Trump to announcement to 63 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:26.199 coincide with the meeting with Israeli Prime Minister of Benjamin 64 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:32.000 Nan Yahoo, who claims that both the rights UH body 65 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:42.920 and UNRA are biased against Israel. Well in some some respects. 66 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:49.279 According to some some reports UH that both UH Yahoo 67 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:52.639 and Trump deny that. Well, Israel was one of the 68 00:07:52.639 --> 00:08:00.000 biggest violators of human rights, especially by cutting off humanitarian 69 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:07.959 efforts and leaving hundreds of thousands, including children, to left 70 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:15.600 to die in destitute areas after the IDEF went through 71 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:22.759 and destroyed homes and attacked civilians. So they just left 72 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:28.319 people left to die. That's not a violation of human rights. Well, 73 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:37.759 point out a more hard example, you know, the decision 74 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:43.639 to end the funding for under the legislation halted American 75 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:49.559 funding until March twenty twenty five, can firming that it 76 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:55.120 would not be restored under Donald Trump. Okay, let's talk 77 00:08:55.120 --> 00:09:02.080 about Donald Trump and well global programs. This isn't surprising 78 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:05.720 to us at all, because Donald Trump pulled out of 79 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:12.960 Paris Agreements other types of climate actions citing and he 80 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:18.559 has cited in the you in General Assembly as one 81 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:22.559 of the global leaders he said he outrights, said that 82 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:28.039 all of that stuff and the LGBTQ movements and indigenous 83 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.759 movements are hurtful to all the countries around the world 84 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:36.240 and it should be disbanded. He actually said that, he 85 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:40.960 said that by inviting diversity into the into the ranks 86 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:48.559 of of global leadership that it is it is hurtful 87 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:59.120 to all countries who are adopting diverse ways of doing things. Well, 88 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:04.399 then why this should not be a surprise that the 89 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:07.679 the United States is pulling out of the Human Rights Council, 90 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:16.200 That maybe we should be looking even closer at some 91 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:19.000 of the human rights violations that are being caused by 92 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:25.720 the US federal government by way of what they what 93 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:30.639 it's called ice. Maybe we should be looking a little 94 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:38.679 closer at that. Well, all that is being said about 95 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.960 the United States, if we look at Canada, where we're 96 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:45.879 actually broadcasting from, they are total support of the Human 97 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:52.039 Rights Council, and while they did have they still do 98 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:56.440 have some question marks about the actions of UNRA and 99 00:10:56.759 --> 00:11:01.720 some of the individuals within UNRA. They are not in 100 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:08.600 total support of disbanding the organization and or disbanding aid 101 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:13.720 to the Balastinian people who need to rebuild their homes. 102 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.200 So along with that, we're actually going to hear well 103 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:23.279 because there were some question marks about what is happening, 104 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:27.000 uh with the conflicts of Sudan and me or Mar. 105 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:30.000 We're going to hear a little bit more about UH 106 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:34.639 what is happening in Sudan with human rights and and 107 00:11:34.960 --> 00:11:38.879 UH at the Human Rights Council about uh what is 108 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:43.919 going on in Sudan and how the the people there 109 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:49.559 are recovering and how civilians are simply just trying to 110 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:54.159 avoid some of the fighting there. So we'll hear more 111 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:57.879 about that, and we will hear some brief statements from 112 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:03.519 other leadership within the Human Rights Council. As the sixty 113 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:09.759 first session of the Human Rights Council began. So why 114 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:15.799 don't we move forward and listen to today's show. 115 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:29.679 Secretary General of the United Nations, Director General of the 116 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:36.559 United Nations Office at Geneva, High Commissioner for Human Rights, 117 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:43.080 Vice President of the Federal Council and Head of the 118 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:50.519 Federal Department of Foreign Affairs of Switzerland. I think the 119 00:12:50.600 --> 00:13:05.279 excellencies distinguished participants, I hereby declare open the sixty first 120 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:07.240 session of the Human Rights Council. 121 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:22.000 It is my great honor to welcome you all today. 122 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:26.200 Your strong presence, with over one hundred and twenty high 123 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:31.159 level dignitaries from all regions, sends a powerful and unmistakable 124 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:37.320 message that this Council matters, that human rights matter, and 125 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:43.919 that multilateral cooperation remains indispensable in navigating our shared challenges, 126 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:51.360 even amid pressures on the foundations of multilateralism. Your presence 127 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:56.639 reaffirms the determination enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, 128 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:02.480 and that is to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, 129 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:07.720 in the dignity and worth of the human persons, and 130 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:11.720 in the equal rights of men and women and of 131 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:16.279 nations large and small. As we mark the twentieth year 132 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.639 since the establishment of the Human Rights Council, we reflect 133 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:27.600 not only on two decades of meaningful contributions, from fostering 134 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:32.159 dialogue and cooperation among states, to advancing norms and standards, 135 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:41.360 to strengthening accountability mechanisms, but also on the resiliency of 136 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:48.799 this body. The Council has evolved, it has expanded its tools, 137 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:53.200 it has responded to emerging crises, and it remains a 138 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:58.080 central pillar of the international human rights architecture, from digital 139 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:01.720 and technological risks to the packs of climate change, conflict, 140 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:06.679 inequality and food insecurity. The Council has sought not only 141 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:11.039 to deliberate, but to promote tangible improvements on the ground. 142 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:16.919 This sustained engagement reflects the Councils enduring relevance and our 143 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:24.080 shared commitment to universal respect for human rights, guided by universality, objectivity, 144 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.519 non selectivity, and the equal treatment of all rights, including 145 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:33.159 the right to development. At the same time, you must 146 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:37.440 acknowledge the ongoing financial constraints within the United Nations have 147 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:43.440 affected our collective ability to fully implement our mandates. The 148 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:48.279 other that yet, rather than retreat, these contraints compel us 149 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:53.279 to act with greater resolve, to innovate, remain responsive, and 150 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:58.159 reinforce the multiple layers of the global human rights architecture. 151 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:04.080 Regional organizations and national human rights institutions, alongside civil society, 152 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:11.360 are therefore the Council's indispensable partners. Let this session therefore 153 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.919 serve as a renewed call to listen, to cooperate, and 154 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:18.559 to act and mark the Council's rights to the demands 155 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:27.000 of the moment. Excellencies distinguished participants. Before handing over the 156 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:30.919 floor to our distinguished guests for their opening statements, I 157 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:34.080 now call on the Council to observe a moment of 158 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:38.840 silence in memory of all victims of human rights violations 159 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:40.320 around the world. 160 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:52.480 Distinguished President of the Human Rights Council, High Commissioner, Excellencies, 161 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:57.840 Ladies and gentlemen. Human rights are under a full scale 162 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:02.320 attack around the world. The rule of law is being 163 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:06.880 out muscled by the rule of force, and this assault 164 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:10.559 is not coming from the shadows or by surprise. It 165 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:14.920 is happening in plain sight and often led by those 166 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:20.000 who hold the greatest power. Around the world, human rights 167 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:24.279 are being pushed back, deliberately, strategically. 168 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:25.559 And sometimes proudly. 169 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:31.920 The consequences are devasting, as witnessed in the Council and 170 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.400 as written in the lives of people who suffer twice, 171 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:39.640 first from violence, oppression or exclusion, and then again from 172 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:47.920 the world's indifference. Where human rights fall, everything else trembles peace, development, 173 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:54.480 social coision, trust, solidarity. This is precisely why the tools 174 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:59.759 of Human Rights Counsel, such as the special rapportereurs, special procedures, 175 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:06.839 investigative mechanisms and universal periodic review are essential, and it 176 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:10.599 is precisely why as we mark the Council's twenty anniversary, 177 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:14.799 we also recognize it's more important than ever to translate 178 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:23.519 geopolitical engagement into a past towards strengthening human rights everywhere. Excellencies, 179 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:28.880 Tomorrow I should address the Security Council on the force 180 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:33.200 anniversary of Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine, where more 181 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:35.720 than fifty thousand civilians have been killed. 182 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:39.960 It is more than pastime to end the bloodshed. 183 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:44.359 I began these months speaking to the Committee on the 184 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:48.599 Exercise of the Inaliable Rights of the Palestinian People about 185 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:52.960 blatant violations of human rights, human dignity and international law 186 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:58.559 in the occupied Palestinian territory. The current trajectory is dark, 187 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:03.400 clear and purpose. The two state solution is being stripped 188 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:09.119 away in broad daylight. The international community cannot allow these 189 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:12.440 to happen. And a few days ago I was at 190 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:16.440 the African Union Summit where Sudan, the Democratic Republic of 191 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:17.319 the Congo. 192 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:23.119 The Sayel and other crises were front and center. Extencies. 193 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:27.400 We are living in a world where must suffering is excused, 194 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:31.880 a way where humans are used as bargaining chips where 195 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:38.119 international law is treated as a mere inconvenience. Conflicts are multiplying, 196 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:43.480 and the impunity has become a contangent that is not 197 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:46.839 due to a lack of knowledge, tools, or institutions, is 198 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:51.079 the result of political choices. The crisis of respect for 199 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:56.160 human rights does not stand alone. It mirrors and magnifies 200 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:03.799 every other global fracture. Humanitarian need are exploding, while funding collapses. 201 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:10.400 Inequalities are widening at staggering speed. Countries are drowning in 202 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:17.680 debt and despair. Climate chaos is accelerating, and technology, especially 203 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:24.200 artificial intelligence, is increasingly be used in ways that suppress rights, 204 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:30.519 deeper inequality, and expose marginalized people to new forms of discrimination. 205 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.640 Both online and offline. 206 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:38.440 Across every front, those who are already vulnerable are being 207 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:43.319 pushed further to the margins, and human rights defenders are 208 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:45.759 among the first to be silenced when they try to 209 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:51.160 warn us in discordinated offensive human rights are the first 210 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:55.960 casualty we see it in a tightening grip on civic space, 211 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:02.480 Journalists and activists jailed and all shut down. Women's rights 212 00:21:02.599 --> 00:21:10.359 rolled back, children's rights ignored, persons with disabilities excluded. Democracy's 213 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:15.240 eroding the right of peaceful assembly crushed, and I can 214 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:19.400 then once again the recent violent repression of protests in Iran. 215 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:25.960 Migrants arrested, arrested and expelled with total disregard. 216 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:27.519 For their human rights and their humanity. 217 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:36.319 Refugees escape, goats, LGBTIQ plus communities, villy five minorities and 218 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:43.839 indigenous peoples targeted, religious communities attacked. Online space is poisoned 219 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:47.359 by these information and hate, resulting in. 220 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:50.960 Real world harm exceencies. 221 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:55.480 Human rights are not a slogan for good times, direct 222 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.079 duty at all times, and so we must stand up 223 00:21:59.119 --> 00:22:03.240 for them and even when it is difficult and convenient 224 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:10.839 or costly, especially then that requires action on sri urgent fronts. First, 225 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:16.440 we must defend our shared foundations without compromise. Duvent Charter, 226 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:21.359 Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the internationals of international 227 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:26.039 human rights law are not a menu. Leaders cannot pick 228 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:30.319 the parts they like and ignore the rest, and human. 229 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:32.759 Rights themselves are also not divisible. 230 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:40.599 Economic rights, social rights, cultural rights, civil rights, and political rights. 231 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:50.480 These are inherent, universal, inalible and interdependent. 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When the song la 248 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:25.799 security eladity not initiative or newcat. 249 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:28.680 Renfor onto. 250 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:33.640 Development, you harble it protects you and context humanit there 251 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:38.440 I think domena is the man a pro is is 252 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:46.079 run for mutuel more proposing and grouped stem as you 253 00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:49.000 need if and don't cree pre prof them only du 254 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.839 man ensemble the politic in the exactly and. 255 00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:57.599 Remerci local misser the mne city for. 256 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:06.319 Las of averded Uayuma, Excellencies, Sir, we must unlock the 257 00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:09.759 power of human rights. After all, human rights are not 258 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:13.079 only what we defend, they are what lifts the world. 259 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:13.839 To a better place. 260 00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:19.559 When rights are upheld, people live more freely, economies grow 261 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:24.839 more fairly, communities trust more deeply, and peace and stability 262 00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:29.079 take old because dignity takes root. Human rights are not 263 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:33.240 an obstacle to progress. They are essential to progress. We 264 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:36.839 have seen it at time and time again all over 265 00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:43.039 the world. Where rights advance, conflict loses ground, Where justice strengthscends, 266 00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:49.160 violent extremism weakens, Where equality expands, possibility explodes. 267 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:52.960 Where freedom prevails, societies flourish. 268 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:56.400 And so we must change course and that human dignity 269 00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:01.359 is set the direction by renewer our commitment to respect 270 00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:07.079 for the rule of law at every level, by supporting 271 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.279 the pivotal work of the International Court of Justice and 272 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:15.640 International Criminal Court, by delivering on the sustainable development goals, 273 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:21.519 by accelerating climate action, by upholding what makes us human. 274 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:25.079 Excellencies, ladies and gentlemen. 275 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.079 In my first address to this Council as Secretary General, 276 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.839 I spoke of a deep personal commitment to human rights. 277 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:39.000 Growing under the Salazar dictatorship taught me that the denial 278 00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:44.119 of human rights corrodes every aspect of society. Working for 279 00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:47.839 the United Nations has shown me our respect for human 280 00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:52.559 rights brings out the best in humanity, And now, in 281 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.400 my tense year at the helm of U N the 282 00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:59.559 power of human rights has never been more clear. Human 283 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:04.119 rights are not west or easts, north or south. They 284 00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:07.400 are not a luxury, They are not negotiable. They are 285 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:11.039 the foundation of a more peaceful and secure world, and 286 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:14.720 states are bound by their obligations under the Charter and 287 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:20.319 international law. We still have much work ahead together, but 288 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.799 since this is my final address to the opening of 289 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:27.880 your session, I leave you with this appeal. Do not 290 00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:31.920 let the erosion of human rights become the accepted price 291 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:38.119 of political expediency or geopolitical competition. Do not let power 292 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.119 write a new rule book in which the vulnerable have 293 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:45.359 no rights and the powerful have no limits. Let these 294 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.599 human rights counsel be the voice and shields for all 295 00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:52.400 those in needs. Let this be the place that helps 296 00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:57.720 end the broad and brutal assault on human rights, because 297 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:01.359 the world that protects human rights protects itself. 298 00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:13.960 And I thank you, mister President of the Human Rights Council, 299 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:21.480 Miss Secretary General, excellencies. A fierce competition for power, control, 300 00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:25.559 and resources is playing out on the world stage at 301 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.880 a rate and intensity unseen for the past eighty years. 302 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:34.559 People are feeling unmoored, anxious, and insecure. 303 00:28:35.799 --> 00:28:38.079 The gears of global power are. 304 00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:43.680 Shifting, and the consequences are not clear. Some are signaling 305 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:46.079 the end of the world order as we know it. 306 00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.680 But today I want to talk about another world order, 307 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.720 one that is organized from the ground up and that 308 00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:59.880 is unshakable, a foundational system of how people relate to 309 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.960 each other based on our inherent worth, our hopes, and 310 00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:06.119 our common values. 311 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:08.319 I'm referring to. 312 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:15.200 The people's pursuit of dignity, equality and justice. This quest 313 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:20.119 is innate to what makes us human, to be free, 314 00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:24.240 to be heard, and to have our basic needs met, 315 00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:27.960 and it is a strong counterbalance to the top down 316 00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:33.319 autocratic trends that we see today. The use of force 317 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.240 to resolve disputes between and within countries is becoming normalist 318 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:44.000 inflammatory threats against sovereign nations are thrown about with no 319 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.960 regard to the fire they could ignite. 320 00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:50.440 The laws of war are being brutally violated. 321 00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:55.000 Mass civilian suffering from Sudan to Gaza, to Ukraine to 322 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.799 Myanmar is unfolding before our eyes. 323 00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:01.720 In Sudan, their needs to be accountability for all. 324 00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:06.640 Violations by all parties, notably the war crimes and possible 325 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:10.799 crimes against humanity committed by their rapid support forces in Alfashire. 326 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:16.039 Such atrocities must not be repeated in Cordo, fun or elsewhere, 327 00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:20.759 and all those with influence need to act urgently to 328 00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:24.680 put an end to this senseless war. The situation in 329 00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:30.799 Gaza remains catastrophic. Palestinians are still dying from Israeli fire, cold, hunger, 330 00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:35.839 and treatable disease. The aid allowed in is not enough 331 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.880 to meet the massive needs. There are concerns over ethnic 332 00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:43.440 cleansing in both Gaza and the West Bank, while Israel 333 00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:50.440 is accelerating efforts to consolidate unlawful annexation. Any sustainable solution 334 00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:53.759 must be based on two states living side by side 335 00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:56.799 in equal dignity and rights, in line with you and 336 00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:02.279 resolutions and international law tomorrow my four years since Russia's 337 00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:07.960 full scale invasion of Ukraine, four interminable and agonizing years, 338 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:14.039 civilian casualties have soared, and Russia's systematic attacks on Ukraine's 339 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:18.319 energy and water infrastructure could amount to international crimes. The 340 00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.759 fighting needs to end, and I urge a focus on 341 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.200 human rights and justice in any ceasefire or peace agreement. 342 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.359 In Myanmar, five years after the military coup, the awful 343 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:35.000 conflict is claiming even more civilian lives and the humanitarian 344 00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:40.000 situation continues to deteriorate. The recent elections staged by the 345 00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:48.759 military have only deepened people's despair. Across most violent conflicts, Today, journalists, 346 00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.960 health and aid workers are targeted in platent violation of 347 00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:57.319 international law. These actions must not be allowed to harden 348 00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:02.400 into the new normal. States needs to be persistent objectors 349 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:07.519 to violations of the law by pursuing accountability and by 350 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:14.359 clearly denouncing these egregious crimes with consistency and without exception. Meanwhile, 351 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:19.559 violence and tensions are researching in some countries, including South 352 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:24.640 Sudan and Ethiopia, and authorities in Iran have violently repressed 353 00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:30.680 mass protests with lethal force killing thousands. I will provide 354 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.240 more detail on these and other country situations in my 355 00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:39.000 Global Update later this week. Excellencies, developments around the world 356 00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:44.359 point to a deeply worrying trend. Domination and supremacy are 357 00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:48.200 making a comeback. If we listen to the rhetoric of 358 00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.720 some leaders. What works behind it is a belief that 359 00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.559 they are above the law and above the Yuan Charter. 360 00:32:55.559 --> 00:33:00.480 They claim exceptional status, exceptional danger, or exceptional moral judgment 361 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:04.799 to pursue their own agenda at any cost, and why 362 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:09.039 wouldn't they try when they are unlikely to face consequences. 363 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:14.160 They build and sustain systems that perpetuate inequalities within and 364 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:20.240 between countries. Some weaponize their economic leverage. They spread this 365 00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:26.480 information to distract, silence, and marginalize. A tight clique of 366 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:31.799 tech tycoons controls an outside proportion of global information flows, 367 00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:36.559 distorting public debate, markets, and even governance systems. 368 00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.440 Corporate and state interests. 369 00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:44.079 Ravage our environment, robbing the riches of the earth for 370 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.960 their own gain. But at the same time, people are 371 00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:52.680 not watching all this from the sidelines. They are activating 372 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.720 their power from the ground up. Women and young people 373 00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:59.480 especially are leading these movements. They are claiming their rights 374 00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:03.920 to base living conditions, to fair pay, to bodily autonomy, 375 00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:05.960 to self determination. 376 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:09.199 To be heard, to vote freely, and many other rights. 377 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:13.199 From Nepal to Madagascar, from Serbia to Peru and beyond, 378 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:20.599 people are demanding equality and denouncing corruption, neighbors and communities 379 00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:24.079 standing up for each other, sometimes even risking their lives. 380 00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.239 People are protesting war and in justice in places far 381 00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:32.800 from home, expressing solidarity and pressuring their governments to act. 382 00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:36.559 They see human rights as a practical force for good, 383 00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:42.280 and they are right. Human rights are anathema to supremacy. 384 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:45.800 They are a direct challenge to those who seek and 385 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:50.000 cling on to power. That is what makes human rights radical, 386 00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.840 and that is what gives them force. They are universal, timeless, 387 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:57.599 and indestructible excellence. 388 00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.559 The troasi manner sent barbe comparmagi a. 389 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:08.159 Reclar declaration universal to this de son garantuite, the pup 390 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:15.159 aspire a la liberte a legalite bien avanez principi, dont 391 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:18.760 act as you know and as you know, alfand you 392 00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:22.480 Disney vmc ecle less clav the lactual i t s 393 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:28.840 san soulve contreller Dominas, colonial honor, the legality racial, the 394 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:33.559 rebelution America and Francis and Remian course, Lotorite and controlle, 395 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:38.599 the movement abolitionist Ete and Roche and Russia, the la 396 00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:45.480 trette transatlantiqutes clave, the system dasser small Blue, brutal cistois 397 00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:51.840 rebuilds minasan les France, sant uni rosend di que, the 398 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:56.599 Lordoi de vote, laluite po legality de chenres suppose we 399 00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:02.960 are ledger mondial song lande illachois, la char uni rea 400 00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:08.320 Famlia funda monteau and sec don latin te, la val 401 00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:13.000 de lee trema, the levant mc suit a tem marqueper 402 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:18.039 in period, the de colonization querrea fame trois alotto de termination, 403 00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:25.239 the Purpolos mobilize pometre fan alas racial por reclame le 404 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.360 troi de treve de travellers i pop protegell trois, the 405 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:37.159 person LGPT, the mayor on defiles ensemble por reclameustis pollers 406 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:42.079 on Frontisperu, the La Gentine sirie o Sri Lanka, e 407 00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:48.679 Legeanne and feontine de l'urvois Paula custisclimatic excellencies. Human rights 408 00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:53.800 are the thread that runs through all these movements, and 409 00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:57.880 we do not take their achievements for granted. Tyranny will 410 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:02.559 seize any chance and exploit any opening. We must keep 411 00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.480 standing up for human rights in solidarity with each other, 412 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.960 and when we come together, we wield more power than 413 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:14.559 any autocrat or tech billionaire. The struggle for human rights 414 00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:17.559 can never be derailed by the whims of a handful 415 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:22.840 of leaders with reactionary supremacist agendas. While some states are 416 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:26.719 weakening the multilateral system, we need bolder and more joined 417 00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:32.159 up responses. First, this means calling out violations of international law, 418 00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:37.840 regardless of the perpetrators. Too often, denouncing violations by one 419 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:42.679 party is labeled as siding with the enemy. In reality, 420 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:46.639 it is upholding the universality and the pursuit of justice 421 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:53.199 for all. The alternative, selective, fragmented responses weakens international law 422 00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:57.079 and hurts us all. The entire human rights ecosystem is 423 00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:02.960 designed to promote universality and insure consistency. This includes the 424 00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:07.079 tools that are mandated by this Council, and I condemn 425 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:13.039 all attacks against them. Second, we need stronger commitment to accountability. 426 00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:18.360 This includes strengthening the International Criminal Court and encouraging national 427 00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:22.760 prosecutions under the principle of universal jurisdiction, we need to 428 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:28.760 increase the cost of breaking international law. Third, let's forge 429 00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:33.880 coalitions to champion what unites us and uphold equality, dignity 430 00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:37.360 and justice for all. We must protect the diversity of 431 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:42.400 the human family and demonstrate what we gain by standing together. 432 00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.760 In the coming weeks, we will set in motion a 433 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.519 global alliance for human rights to capture the energy and 434 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:54.039 commitment that is palpable everywhere. It will be cross regional, 435 00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:59.960 multi stakeholder involving states, businesses, cities, philanthropists, scientists, artists, philosoph 436 00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:06.119 with young people and civil society. It will confront top 437 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:11.559 down domination with grassroots solidarity and support. It will represent 438 00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:16.119 the quiet majority who want a different world. Human rights 439 00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:19.000 are not a political currency. They are not up for grabs. 440 00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:24.199 Our future depends on our joint commitment to defend every 441 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:26.960 person's rights, every time, everywhere. 442 00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:40.400 Thank you, good afternoon everyone. Sorry for the delay. Thank 443 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:42.559 you for joining us at this press conference with the 444 00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:46.440 International with the Independent International Fact Finding Mission for the Sudan, 445 00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.880 which was created by the Human Rights Council in twenty 446 00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:54.280 twenty three to investigate all alleged violations that have occurred 447 00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:58.159 in the context of the ongoing armed conflict. The mission 448 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:02.480 released its latest rep this morning and we'll present those 449 00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:05.519 findings to the Human Rights Council next week. And now 450 00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.920 they're here to answer any questions that you may have. 451 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:11.360 Joining us today by Zoom or the Chair of the 452 00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:15.599 Fact Finding Mission, mister Mohammed chan day Affman, and fellow 453 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.639 expert Miss Joy and Gozi Yazello. And here in the 454 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:23.840 room in Geneva with me is Miss Mona Rishmaui. We'll 455 00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:26.239 start off with brief opening statements by each of the 456 00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:29.159 experts and then we'll open the floor to your questions. 457 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:35.800 One of the experts may be having a slight difficulty 458 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:41.639 with her connection, so I'm not sure if either the 459 00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:47.000 Chair or Professor and Iszello should go first, but perhaps 460 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:54.239 one of you please go ahead, and if missus Ello 461 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:58.760 cannot join, we would ask mister the Chair to read 462 00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:03.079 both statements, so please go ahead. 463 00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:19.679 Yeah, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. On behalf of the. 464 00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:27.679 Effect Finding Mission Sudan. Let me say the following. The 465 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:32.199 fact Finding Mission finds that the eighteen months siege of 466 00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:38.320 Alfasha that preceded the takeover of the city on twenty sixth. 467 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:45.440 On twenty seventh of October was used systematically dismantled the 468 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:50.639 means of survival of his predominantly non urt population. Particularly 469 00:41:51.639 --> 00:42:00.239 There's a gawain Full, culminating in catastrophic humanitarian collapse out 470 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.920 there is unfold From mid twenty twenty four, the rapids 471 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:13.039 are Word Forces RSF encircled encircled the city, cutting off food, water, electricity, 472 00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:22.719 and medical supplies, while subjugating residential areas, displacement camps, markets, 473 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:27.920 and places of worship to repeated shelling and drone strikes. 474 00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:34.519 He then burns developed by the RSF and trenches extending 475 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:41.840 over thirty one kilometers around Alfasha, restricted civilian movements and 476 00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:48.159 effectively and trammed its population. The RSF also launched ground 477 00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:55.119 attacks and displacement camps and then fashion neighborhoods, destroying and 478 00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:02.159 looting markets. A humanitarian convoy were blocked, and community kitchens 479 00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:07.000 providing little food that remained in the city were also attacking. 480 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:14.840 Survivors reported surviving on animal folder called amboos, tree leaves, 481 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:21.559 and residual oil. Children and the elderly died from malnutrition, 482 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:28.719 water systems were damaged and destroyed, posing reliance on unsafe 483 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:36.679 sources of water and accelerating diseases. Medical services also collapsed, 484 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.320 so by the time of the takeover on twenty fifth 485 00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:46.159 or twenty sixth of October, only one remaining hospital was functional, 486 00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:52.159 but following the hour safe entry into Elfashare, that facility, 487 00:43:52.320 --> 00:44:00.000 Al Saudi Hospital, ceased operating. Pestis suffering from pitable disease 488 00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:03.039 or moderate injuries died. 489 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:03.840 For lack of care. 490 00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:08.480 Injured and sub civilians were forced to flee on foot 491 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:14.880 for days without full water or medical assistance. That siege 492 00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.880 was followed by massive displacement, and estimated one hundred thousand 493 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:26.440 people fled in later October alone. According to United Nations 494 00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:31.960 Resident and Humanitarian Coordinator for the Sudan, many families were 495 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:36.920 separated during their flight, either to increase their chances of 496 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:42.159 survival or amid the chaos of a pursuing them on 497 00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.440 the road and out of the city. Hundreds of children 498 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.440 arrived in safe areas without their parents or any family members. 499 00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:57.079 So participants or the survivors described Fashire as a ghost town. 500 00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:04.320 Physical destruction was compounded by profound psychological trauma and survivors 501 00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:15.039 reportedly and during starvation, witnessing family members killed and or 502 00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:19.639 repel subjected to other sexual violence, and disappearance of the 503 00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:25.559 loved ones. Many remain desperate and the knowledge of their 504 00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:31.679 whereabouts is still unknown. Their suffering is compounded by the 505 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:35.760 loss of bread winners in their families, living a woman 506 00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:42.199 and children in extreme vulnerability. The culminative effect of prolonged starvation, 507 00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:49.360 denial humanitarian aid and medical care, and restricted movements and 508 00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:56.119 targeted violence rendered survival increasingly impossible for the affected communities, 509 00:45:56.199 --> 00:46:01.280 creating condition of life incapable with human survival. 510 00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:05.920 Lending person to Professor Joey is zier. 511 00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:12.000 On me, thank you, thank you, thank you so much. 512 00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:19.840 Yes, Continuing our finding, The Independent Fact Finding Mission for 513 00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:25.320 the Sudan has concluded that the takeover of Alfacshire in 514 00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:30.960 late October twenty twenty five was marked by mass Kellen's 515 00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:39.039 widespread rape, obituary detention and enforced disappearances committed by the 516 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:42.920 rapid support for this arressive Over the course of the 517 00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:47.400 three days, civilians and those all the combo attempting to 518 00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:54.519 flee were intercepted, separated and executed at exit point, and 519 00:46:54.679 --> 00:47:00.320 our long eating burns surrounding the city. Survivors described men 520 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:06.400 being bound and shot in groups, bodies left unburied along roots, 521 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:12.360 and wounded persings executed at kilose range. In some instances, 522 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:18.639 women and children were also killed. Verified videos and satellite 523 00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:24.239 imagery corroborate accounts of mass killings, including at El Fashire 524 00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:29.800 University and the former Children's Hospital, which was converted into 525 00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.760 a detention and execution site. 526 00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:35.400 Hospitals were not spared. 527 00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:41.639 At El Saudi Hospital, RSL fighters went to work by word, 528 00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:47.960 killing patients, doctors and accompanying family members were killed in 529 00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:53.159 large numbers. Survivors reported that over four hundred and sixty 530 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:59.519 people presenting the hospital were executed, and satellite imagery indicate 531 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:07.920 subsequent burning of bodies. Sexual and gender based violence was possessivetic, systematic, 532 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:12.599 and ethnically targeted. Women and girls seven to seventeen were 533 00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.960 subjected to rape, mass and gang grape, and other forms 534 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:22.599 of sexual and gender based violence, including killings, wheeping, beating, humiliation, 535 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:28.000 first nudity, and sexual harassment, while being robbed of their belongings, 536 00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:33.519 often in front of family members or among copsies. Survivors 537 00:48:33.639 --> 00:48:39.840 reported the perpetrate that perpetrators explicitly targeted women from non 538 00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:48.800 Arab communities, particularly the Zagawa, using dehumanizing and exymmetry languages, 539 00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:53.800 a language with numerous women and girls being raped during 540 00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:58.480 the seven incident, indicating that the cases documented by the 541 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:04.159 Mission represent only a fraction of a wider pattern. Segul 542 00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:10.159 violence was used deliberately to terrorize and destroy the social fabric. 543 00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:17.679 The social fabric of the targeted communities. Survivors offered severe 544 00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:23.840 physical and psychological harm, laughing, trauma, and in some cases debt, 545 00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:31.360 highlighting the extreme vulnerability and gendered impact of the conflict. 546 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:36.159 The mission also documented the widespread forms of torture and 547 00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:41.960 correct treatment, habituality, detention and for disappearances and extortion. Men 548 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:46.159 and boys were separated from women and children at checkspoint 549 00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:53.519 and burns, detained in trucks, shipping containers, and makeshift facilities, 550 00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:59.880 and subjected to severe beatings, burning, mutilation, and humiliation. 551 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.920 Many remain missing to date. 552 00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:08.719 Ransom demands we have frequently issued the families with hire 553 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:16.079 songs demanded on based on ethnicity, so this scale, coordinational 554 00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:20.679 reputation and public endorsement of this act by ARS leadership 555 00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:25.679 demonstrate that these were not isolated incidents but part of 556 00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:35.000 a planned, unorganized operation executed through an established command structure. 557 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:41.519 Mister Chair, Legist and gentlemen of the Press, I passed 558 00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:43.320 on to my colleague Munarihwama. 559 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:46.239 Thank you very much. 560 00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:47.440 Thank you Chair and. 561 00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:50.280 Professor Azilo. 562 00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:54.239 Let me now address what does this pattern that was 563 00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:59.360 described by the Chair and the Professor Azilo means in law? 564 00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:05.159 When we assess the totality of the overwhelming evidence that 565 00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:08.440 we gathered. You saw, my professor Rosilo was talking about 566 00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:13.360 killings in particular places that we documented, in locations that 567 00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:19.480 we know about, and we assess this overwhelming evidence, the 568 00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:23.880 scale of the killings, the systematic nature of sexual violence, 569 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:29.400 the deliberate starvation, and the targeting specific ethnic communities. In 570 00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:33.199 this case it's the Zagawa and the four. A broader, 571 00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:40.400 more alarming legal conclusion emerges based on the pattern, consolidation, scale, 572 00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:46.440 systematic nature, and cumulative effect of these crimes. There is 573 00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:52.599 only one possible conclusion. It's an indication of a path 574 00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:59.440 of genocide. Our mission found that at least three of 575 00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:03.800 the under lying acts of genocide have been committed, and 576 00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:08.599 any of these acts, if committed by with the with 577 00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:14.119 the intention to destroy specific ethnic, ethnic national or racial 578 00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:19.719 group could constitute genocide. So the three underlying acts are 579 00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:22.480 killings of members of a protected group in this case 580 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:26.480 is the Zagawa and the Four, causing serious bodily harm, 581 00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:33.159 mental bodily and mental harm, rape, sexual violence, torture, and 582 00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:37.280 so on, and deliberately in fact, inflicting conditions of life 583 00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:43.360 calculated to bring about the physical destruction of the protected 584 00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:49.440 group in whole or in part. The Four, Masalite and 585 00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:53.719 Zagawa are protected groups under international law, and already the 586 00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:59.440 International Criminal Court told us as that much. After carefully 587 00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:06.079 considering all possible alternative explanations, the Mission concluded that the 588 00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:11.719 only reasonable inference that can be drawn from the pattern 589 00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:15.840 of conduct in and around Al Fasher is that the 590 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:22.199 perpetrators acted with genocidal intent. This is not a conclusion 591 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:26.360 we reach lightly. It is inferred from the body of 592 00:53:26.440 --> 00:53:29.920 evidence as a whole, from the scale and sequence of attacks, 593 00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:35.079 from the coordinated mass killings and executions, from the widespread rape, 594 00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:39.239 from the starvation siege, from the pattern of ethnic targeting, 595 00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:44.280 and from the statements by the perpetrators expressing intent to 596 00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:51.159 eliminate and destroy these communities. The risk of further genericidal 597 00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:55.760 violence remains serious. And ongoing, particularly in the conflict around 598 00:53:56.199 --> 00:54:03.559 in Kurduvan. Therefore, our recommendations are the following. First, civilians 599 00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:07.719 must be protected immediately. We have already recommended the deployment 600 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:13.239 of an international protection force, and this recommendation has been 601 00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:17.280 reiterated by the African Union and the African Commissions Join 602 00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:20.960 fact finding Mission. There is now an urgent lead to 603 00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:28.320 translate this recommendation into practice. Second, our forearms embargo must 604 00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:33.360 be fully enforced and expanded to cover the entire Sudan. 605 00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:39.519 States must prevent the transfer of weapons, ammunitions, equipment, financial 606 00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:45.360 and logistical support to any party implicated in the violations. Third, 607 00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:51.559 meaningful targeted sanctions should be imposed against those who are 608 00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:56.719 responsible for the atrocity climes and against those enabling them. 609 00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:01.599 Sanctions must be denied to disrupt them capacity to continue 610 00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:08.639 committing these violations. Fourth, and that's really key, unrestricted humanitarian 611 00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:13.599 access must be secured and freedom of movement guaranteed for civilians. 612 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:16.320 We don't actually know what is happening to the people 613 00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:19.159 of al Fasher. Very few of them came out of 614 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.119 Al Fasher right now, so and we know that it 615 00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.400 looks like a ghost doAnd people need to be allowed 616 00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:30.920 to leave if they can. Fifth, accountability is essential. Perpetrators 617 00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:34.239 continue to commit these crimes because they believe they can 618 00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:38.519 act with impunity. They must be fully There must be 619 00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:42.679 full cooperation with the International Criminal Court and serious condition 620 00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:49.199 consideration for additional judicial avenues capable of addressing atrocity crimes 621 00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:55.239 called atrocity crimes, particularly the general side now committed in Sudan. Sixth, 622 00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:58.480 the survivors must be supported. We saw them. They are 623 00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:03.920 in desperate conditions. They must receive sustained medical and psychological 624 00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:07.159 support along with meaningful reparative measures. 625 00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:11.719 And Seventh, avendance must be preserved. 626 00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.559 And the fate of the whereabout of the missings and 627 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:21.280 deterred persons clarified. Investigative Investigative bodies such as our own 628 00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:25.079 mission should be granted access to Al Fasher and the 629 00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:29.800 surrounded areas. Today, the Security Council is meeting to discuss 630 00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:34.280 Souden under the presidency of the United Kingdom. This discussion 631 00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:41.000 must translate into concrete action. Council members should use the 632 00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:46.320 tools at their disposal to strengthen civilian protection, reinforce and 633 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:54.280 expand the embargo, ensure strict compliance and advance accountability. Next week, 634 00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:58.440 we will be formally presenting our finding to the findings 635 00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:02.440 to the United Nations Human As Counsel. That Council, too, 636 00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:09.079 must respond with clarity and resolve by sustaining independent investigations, 637 00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:15.679 supporting protection measures, and reinforcing credible pathways to justice. So 638 00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:19.599 that has already showed the world the cost of hesitation. 639 00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:23.559 There should be no additation. The evidence is before US, 640 00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:29.519 legal analysis is clear, and the warning signs are unmisctakable. 641 00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:34.599 The responsibility now lies with states to protect civilians, to 642 00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:40.440 protect to prevent further destruction, and ensure accountability before more 643 00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:41.480 lives are lost. 644 00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:46.960 Thank you very much. Thank you everyone for those important 645 00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:50.199 opening remarks, and now we'll open the floor to questions. 646 00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:53.559 First we'll go to those in the room and then 647 00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:59.000 we'll go online. We'll start with Robin from the Agents 648 00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:02.599 France Press. Please go ahead. Thanks, thank you. 649 00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:08.280 So we're talking here about genocide and somebody must be 650 00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:12.639 funding this, and somebody must be providing the weapons and 651 00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:15.280 the material for this to happen. So my question is 652 00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:19.480 very blunt. Who who's providing the money and who's providing 653 00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:20.000 the weapons. 654 00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:25.000 I think this is a key question and this is 655 00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:28.920 really important to understand the mechanisms in which this is 656 00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.679 being done. And what I can say at this stage 657 00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:37.920 is that it's multiple actors, it's a complex network, and 658 00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:41.519 it's expanding. And what we are trying to do is 659 00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:46.000 to analyze this complex network and we'll be reporting on 660 00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:49.199 that issue very soon. I think we'll hear on us 661 00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:53.000 from us on this matter. So what I can also 662 00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:58.280 say is that we are engaging with main parties. It's 663 00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.320 called it like this main part is and we hope 664 00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:05.360 that they'll understand the message enough is enough. We reach 665 00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:10.320 the point of genocide. Now enough is enough, and really 666 00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:14.960 we all need to take our responsibilities seriously, and states 667 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:18.559 need to take the responsibility seriously. You'll hear more from 668 00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:20.039 about this from us soon. 669 00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:27.719 Okay, thank you. Let's go to some questions online. If 670 00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:31.119 you could please identify yourself and the media outlet that 671 00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:37.440 you work for. We'll start with Musa from Alma Almaden TV. 672 00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:39.599 Please please go ahead. 673 00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:42.360 Yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you very much. 674 00:59:45.360 --> 00:59:48.239 I have two of the questions please. The first one 675 00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:52.480 about the number of those killed and how many known 676 00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:57.639 Arabs and how many are Arabs and describe the second 677 00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:00.679 one do you have specific names of those involved in 678 01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:05.440 these crimes. And finally, what about the responsibility of the 679 01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:11.159 external powers that support the rapid support forces in these crimes? 680 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:20.920 Thank you? Would the chair or Professor Gazella like to 681 01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:22.239 answer the question. 682 01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:34.000 Yeah, thank you very much. I can respond to that 683 01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:39.920 with regard to the number of people who have been 684 01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:43.920 killed as a result of the. 685 01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:52.119 Takeover on twenty fifth, twenty six, twenty seven, As you say, 686 01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:53.119 you have to look at. 687 01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:58.559 The human rights mechanism as working in tandem. 688 01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:01.880 So the of the U and High Commissioner for Human 689 01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:07.840 Rights has established about six thousand dead as a result of. 690 01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:18.400 The three days of violence. But in ourselves we have documented. 691 01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:26.280 Mass killings, summary executions and so on involving multipeople. The 692 01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:32.599 requirement for genocide is that they must be numerically, it's 693 01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:35.320 not the most essential element. 694 01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:39.119 So long as there are a sufficient number of people killed. 695 01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:43.119 And I think the threshold has been reached so far 696 01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:48.639 as the requirements both for definition of genocide are concerned. 697 01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:51.719 But we have documented, and you will see in our report, 698 01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:57.320 various killings in various groups, various numbers, sometimes sixty eight 699 01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:01.679 children and so on, and uh and and and and 700 01:02:02.039 --> 01:02:09.039 and and uh and and and and suffer because part. 701 01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:15.239 Of the our mandate is to identify perpetrators, and. 702 01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:24.159 We have identified perpetrators, including those that are in a 703 01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:32.599 command position, through what we call confidential dosys uh uh investigated. 704 01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:38.079 Of course, the report pinpoints to one individual, uh, a 705 01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:43.000 notorious individual, and I think this is not in any 706 01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:47.519 violation of his due process rights because these are something 707 01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:51.639 which is really in the public domain already, but we 708 01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:54.639 have compiled and I think this is in relation to 709 01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:59.639 best practices of Human Rights Commission to document names of 710 01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:03.480 Indian visuals persons of interest and I think this will 711 01:03:03.559 --> 01:03:09.079 be shared appropriately with any international or credible national judicial 712 01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:13.840 mechanism that is ready to exercise universal jurisdictions. 713 01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:18.159 And so again, I think the question of external actors was. 714 01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:23.760 Raised, was responded to by my colleague, and I think 715 01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:26.800 the most important thing is to say that we are 716 01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:31.840 already now engaging with a number of states and to 717 01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:38.199 put to them the querage that we have concerning either 718 01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:42.360 their involvement or their companies or entities or their nationals. 719 01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:45.559 And this is ongoing and will be subject to a 720 01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:48.760 further revelation as we move this investigation. 721 01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:54.280 Thank you, thank you. 722 01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:57.840 We'll go next to Alicia from the Spanish news agency. 723 01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:03.840 I thank you for. 724 01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:05.000 Taking my questions. 725 01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:09.320 I wanted to ask because I saw in your report 726 01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:13.320 that you indicate that there has been an escalation from 727 01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:21.159 ethnically targeted attacks to add that can be considered as 728 01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:24.880 signs of genocide. So I wanted to know when this 729 01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:30.119 escalation happened and where did you see this escalation in 730 01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:34.840 what the science. Also I wanted to know if did 731 01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:42.400 you detected this targeting of ethnical minorities at the beginning 732 01:04:42.440 --> 01:04:45.440 of the war. Was this one of the motivations of 733 01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:50.519 the war. And also I wanted to know if there's 734 01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:55.320 going to be any approached procedures to take this to 735 01:04:55.519 --> 01:04:59.119 the courts or how what what are you planning to 736 01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:00.519 do with this evidence? 737 01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:04.840 Thank you, thank you. 738 01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:06.719 I'll take this. 739 01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:10.039 But there is one part that I didn't understand completely. 740 01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:14.639 So the escalation, the escalation is really what we are seeing, 741 01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:17.760 and that's the pattern that I'd like. There is a 742 01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:21.800 part in the report about the model's operandi, about what 743 01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:26.280 actually what is happening, and the key point about this 744 01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:33.760 is that the three days of onslaught, of the slaughter 745 01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:37.800 that happened, the mass killings that happened in Al Fasher 746 01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:43.239 was preceded with eighteen months of siege. That siege weakened 747 01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:49.079 the population drastically. This was a siege that did not 748 01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:52.760 allow humanitarian assistance to get in. 749 01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:55.199 There was no food. 750 01:05:55.719 --> 01:05:57.800 When you talk to people, when you ask them what 751 01:05:58.079 --> 01:06:02.159 actually happened towards the and the share was describing that 752 01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:06.559 towards the end there was no food. People were extremely weakened. 753 01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:12.679 So the attack happened on very weakened people who were starving, 754 01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:16.960 who didn't have enough water, who didn't have enough medicine. 755 01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:18.559 They were drinking. 756 01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:24.880 Contaminated water, and therefore a lot of diseases, but no hospitals, 757 01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:33.159 there's nothing nutritionous tradition. So basically this smodest operandi is 758 01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:38.360 the escalation we saw before areas that were attacked and 759 01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:40.920 the moment the area was attacked, people could live to 760 01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:45.400 another area. In this case, the attack happened in an 761 01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:50.119 confined setting of al fashion and around it and preceded 762 01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:55.880 by months of weakening of the population. And that's really 763 01:06:56.440 --> 01:07:00.920 very very serious. So that pattern of on that has 764 01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:05.599 to stop because when you basically prevent the population from 765 01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:10.639 food drinking very you know, good to drinking water, and 766 01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:15.320 medical attention and prevent them from humanitarian It's just as 767 01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:17.559 what do you want you want to destroy them, you 768 01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:20.039 want to kill them for eighteen months, what do you 769 01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:26.800 wanted to exhaust? To exhaust the ability to continue living? 770 01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:31.079 And that's really the escalation, So that's really important. That's 771 01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:35.000 I think what distinguishes al Fasher from let's say, other 772 01:07:35.159 --> 01:07:39.079 situations that we have documented before. And that's why we 773 01:07:39.159 --> 01:07:43.440 are afraid that the same methods are being now used 774 01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:46.880 in other areas in Courdovan. That's why we it is 775 01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:52.079 this method of approach, this genocidal pash that must be stopped. 776 01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:55.119 So when you say one of the motivations is the 777 01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:58.519 motivation is to attack these particular ethnic groups, and I 778 01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:04.800 mean Alfasher is mostly the Zarawa community. In the displacement 779 01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:09.800 caps around it Zamzam and Abushuk, you had mostly mostly 780 01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:14.400 four community and a bit of Massalids, and these people 781 01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:19.319 came from other displacement They were displaced multiple times. So 782 01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:26.560 the attack was about these particular populations. And when the 783 01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:31.479 attackers were attacking, particularly during the rape and massive killings, 784 01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:36.119 and those who survived horrific massacres were telling us that 785 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:42.359 the attackers were using slayers were basically looking for Zarawa's 786 01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:46.840 looking for food to kill them, to kill them. So 787 01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:51.119 we know that the intention was to destroy these people, 788 01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:58.079 and that's really very very serious. I hope I answered 789 01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:06.319 your questions. We have a manded of course to cooperate 790 01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:11.079 with judicial bodies, and of course we are cooperating with 791 01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:15.840 the judicial bodies. The International Criminal Court has a jurisdiction 792 01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:20.920 over the situation in Darfur, and al fashion is in 793 01:09:21.399 --> 01:09:25.920 the midst of Darfour is actually an important It was 794 01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:29.359 the capital of darfour, advanced stage of North Darfour, so 795 01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:34.640 it's really an important area. And so of course we 796 01:09:34.720 --> 01:09:40.439 are cooperating with the judicial bodies, including the International Criminal Court, 797 01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:43.439 but we also think that there has to be this 798 01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:47.720 The International Criminal Court can only do so much, very 799 01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:51.880 important that they work that they are doing. This is 800 01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:55.079 why we are recommending that there should be a separate 801 01:09:55.239 --> 01:10:02.319 independent institution judicial institution judicial like a court that works 802 01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:07.720 in tandem with the ICC and also states must must 803 01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:11.920 exercise universal jurisdiction. A lot of the commanders that we 804 01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.960 are talking about, and their names are everywhere in the report, 805 01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:21.159 travel all over all over countries that have jurisdiction to 806 01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:23.720 do something about it, and that's really important. 807 01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:33.279 Thank you. Were there any follow up questions, Alicia, from you? 808 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:47.520 I think, any more questions from the room or online? Okay, okay, okay. 809 01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:51.359 I don't see any any more. Any final statements from 810 01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:55.119 the chair or or fellow experts. 811 01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:07.279 Okay okay. 812 01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:16.359 I can't tell ift the chair wants to say something. 813 01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:22.479 Did you have anything else to say a final statement 814 01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:25.199 the chair? 815 01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:28.399 Yes, thank you very much. 816 01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:34.960 As we mentioned before, we will be presenting the report 817 01:11:35.079 --> 01:11:40.319 in detail to the members of the Human Rights Council 818 01:11:40.840 --> 01:11:45.439 next week and we'll be able to engage more in 819 01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:51.199 terms of any specifically because as we mentioned earlier, the 820 01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:54.960 risk of escalation still continues with. 821 01:11:56.760 --> 01:11:58.119 A number of cities. 822 01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:05.520 Cardogly Uh dealing in Cordo fun you know, under siege 823 01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:08.560 and siege like conditions. So I think this is something 824 01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:12.720 that you know, we would like to bring to the 825 01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:16.920 attention of the international community. So I thank if we're 826 01:12:17.399 --> 01:12:19.239 taking interest in our work. 827 01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:23.039 About it. 828 01:12:23.159 --> 01:12:26.279 I've convinced my son that there were colors in the 829 01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:31.159 world back when I was young, and though everything wasn't 830 01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:36.039 black and white, wrong was wrong and right was right. 831 01:12:36.520 --> 01:12:39.119 It was about that time I finally. 832 01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:43.720 Realized maybe my son was right all damn time. 833 01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:47.359 Most of us were born in a clearer time. 834 01:12:47.960 --> 01:12:52.880 Yeah, things were black and one Pia things were black. 835 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:57.680 Please contact us at Depictions Media for more information.