WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:10.119 Welcome to OUCH Was That a Ghost? This podcast may 2 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:15.720 contain graphic material which some listeners may find disturbing. Listener 3 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:20.519 discretion is advised. Is advised. 4 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:21.440 Me? 5 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:31.320 Now that we covered that, here's your host list. 6 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:45.119 Welcome back to ouch That a Ghost? Back again is Natty, 7 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:49.159 my co host of creep It Weird. Thank you for 8 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:50.960 coming on. What's up? Suggas? 9 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:54.840 Oh, I appreciate it. I always like being on. Go 10 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:55.840 check out creep it Weird? 11 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:58.679 Yes, no, definitely check out creep It Weird. We have 12 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:01.840 some good episodes going. We just opened our Patreon and 13 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:03.880 we have a fun episode on there and that will 14 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:06.239 be a regular thing. It sounds kind of sad. We 15 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:10.799 have one episode on fatreon. Y we'll get there. Hey 16 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:13.519 we're new, we're noubes, but we have our YouTube up 17 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:16.599 and running. Yeah, we're If you like YouTube, you can 18 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:18.079 head on over there and listen there. 19 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:22.439 Yeah, it's about thirty seconds ago. We're on YouTube. 20 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:25.959 They make it difficult to set everything up or we 21 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:29.159 just don't know how to do things either, or so 22 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:35.439 today we're going to be covering a swindler. Swindler ooh, 23 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:38.959 over a century before Anna Delvi fooled High society. Before 24 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:42.879 Bernie made off, before Charles Ponzi, there was a lesser 25 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:46.719 known grifter, a swindler, if you will, I'm gonna butcher this. 26 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:51.519 It's French Teres Humbert. I'm just going to call her 27 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:55.200 Teres because I'm not trying to do that all Humberg, 28 00:01:55.480 --> 00:02:05.120 because it's not like Hombart, Hamburger, Terrees Hamburger Hamburglar for short. 29 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:08.360 Oh yes, she was a woman in the eighteen hundreds 30 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:10.840 that pretended to be an heir to millions and got 31 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:13.319 away with it for decades, living in the lap of 32 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:16.000 luxury touchet. 33 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:17.879 All right, I got a note pad out here. I'm 34 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:19.439 gonna be taking notes on how to pull this off. 35 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:22.800 There are different articles I got it from. I'm terrible 36 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:24.919 at citing books, so I'm just gonna tell you which 37 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:30.080 book I also used. It's called La Grande Teres, The 38 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:34.520 Greatest Scandal of the Century, and it was by Hilary Spurling. 39 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:41.840 All right, okay, he was born Teres Derek Knack. It's 40 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:44.680 definitely not pronounced. It's definitely like dar nach or something 41 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:52.719 like that. Dochnak sure sound right? Into a peasant family 42 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:56.240 in eighteen fifty six, in the small village in France. 43 00:02:56.560 --> 00:03:02.280 Her father, Guiermo Doc was a foundling. Natasha's like, why 44 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:06.199 did I come on here? I've heard from the pronunciations. 45 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:09.240 Thank you, it's my specialty. 46 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:12.120 Next time you go, you just be like I'm doing 47 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:14.240 another French episode and be like, son of a bitch, 48 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:14.599 I'm in. 49 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:21.280 I listen to him and I can't do what they 50 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:25.159 do with their mouth making the sounds come out like that. 51 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:27.520 That's what she's saying. I feel you with the nineteen nine, 52 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:31.560 nineteen oh nine you struggle with I feel the struggle. Now. 53 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:37.080 Oh yeah, that's rough. So her father Guiirmo, We're not 54 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:38.840 going to say the last name anymore because that's just 55 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:41.960 that's too much enough. So he was a foundling. He 56 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:44.000 was a child that was like left in a doorstep, 57 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.919 you know what I mean, an orphanage or whatever by 58 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:48.680 your parents, just because you couldn't take care of him. 59 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:53.360 A basketbaby, okay, a basketball I leave him in a 60 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:56.639 basket It is. It just does not sound politically correct, 61 00:03:56.719 --> 00:03:59.840 but I yeah, that is what it is. I don't 62 00:03:59.879 --> 00:04:02.919 know if it is or not. It just sounds harsh 63 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:08.680 and does out on the basket baby. Uh, there's ah 64 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:11.680 see what I think of is I think of the 65 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.240 Grinch when they left him in a basket? Oh, old 66 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:15.159 Bitty's got him. 67 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:19.040 I was thinking of whatever whatever that Bible character is 68 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:22.040 that Moses was Moses left at a basket? 69 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:25.639 Yeah, yeah, basket baby. Oh my gosh, it could be 70 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:28.519 a dumpster baby, at least here in a basket. When 71 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:32.720 he grew up, Guermo married Rosie Lucy Cappella, and they 72 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:34.639 went on to have a bunch of children, one of 73 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:38.319 which was Teres before her passing. Before the mother's passing, 74 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:42.759 that was worded weird. So Guiermo, who enjoyed his wine 75 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:47.160 as well as me tonight, would often imbibe, and when 76 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:50.319 he did, he would tell people how he was actually 77 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:54.120 of nobility. He wasn't a peasant. Oh and he had 78 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:59.120 a fortune and he had properties all this, but it 79 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.519 wasn't going to him because he fought with his parents. 80 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:03.199 It's all going to his children. 81 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:05.639 Well, we know that this motherfucker's out there sipping that 82 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:08.079 wine with that pinky fully extended. 83 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:11.639 Yes, Patrick Starr, why do I think of like kids 84 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:15.040 shows on every reference? Remember the higher the pinky I 85 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:19.560 like so immature of So he would show people some 86 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:24.240 old parchments as proof. And he had a safe well, 87 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:26.600 a chest that was sealed, and he would it was 88 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:28.279 only to be opened upon his death. 89 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:32.279 It's fucking empty. We all know that some bitches empty. 90 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:36.279 Then that's when his children would inherit the family's wealth. 91 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:38.920 Oh and he would also tell everyone how he was 92 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:41.439 an alchemist, and he would run around with like a 93 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:44.000 sword or stick and say how he could change the weather. 94 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:49.639 So he was eccentric. I like this guy. I like 95 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:50.079 this guy. 96 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:53.000 I'm fancy and I could change the weather. Hold my 97 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:57.319 wand man, it is really coming down outside. I could 98 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:59.759 hear it like crazy. I'm right by the exterior wall. 99 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:01.639 It is pounded out there. 100 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:04.120 We had drizzling all day today, but we didn't have 101 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:07.839 any storms. Oh yeah, it's coming. Rain is the calmest 102 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:11.800 I am like mentally, I'm not anxious. I'm not stressed out. 103 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:17.600 It's raines something. It's very cleansing, it is. I never 104 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:23.560 understood why I loved rain so much. But blah blah blah. Okay, 105 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:27.439 so Guillermo the guy that you like. In eighteen seventy 106 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.360 four he died, so the family went to open the 107 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:34.839 chest of wealth proof that the children were of nobility 108 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:37.160 in all of the land that they were to inherit. 109 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:40.160 They cracked the seal in wait, you put all that 110 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:44.560 land in the chest? Well, the paperwork for it and 111 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:49.040 inside yeah, no, inside there's a lego model scale of 112 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:53.199 the castle that're gonna get. I know that tree, the 113 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.480 trees right there, I can see it. So inside when 114 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:58.000 they cracked the seal, do you want to take a 115 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:01.319 guess what they found? Nothing? There was something in there, 116 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:12.360 and I owe you gotcha? Gotcha? A brick? Oh shit, 117 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:17.720 one brick. One brick. He didn't even make it super heavy. Nope, 118 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:21.839 just a brick in there. Oh what a slacker? Okay, 119 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:25.240 a brick a coke? I mean, what are we talking? 120 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:27.519 That would have been worth a lot more. I mean 121 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:32.920 there would be some value. Yeah, oh my god. So 122 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:35.959 this fanciful thinking that her father had seemed to rub 123 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:38.399 off on Teres. As a child, she would tell her 124 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:41.199 friends to put all their jewelry together so when they 125 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:44.680 met people or got boyfriends, they could trick them into 126 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:48.360 thinking that they were actually very wealthy. Terse Now, without 127 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:50.279 that fortune, her father had promised, she had to go 128 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:53.040 get a job, so she went to go work as 129 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:57.319 a maid for Mayor Humbert. Mayor humber was also her uncle. Well, 130 00:07:57.319 --> 00:07:59.800 it was like his wife was her aunt. There was 131 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:02.680 like basically it was the uncle but not I guess 132 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:06.439 kind of whatever. Teresa, during her employment got to know 133 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:12.600 Frederic Humbert, the mayor's son, also Teresa's first cousin, and 134 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:19.519 through her storytelling, Frederic became smitten with Teres. Oh okay, 135 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:21.879 I guess she don't have to meet the family. I'm 136 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:22.959 trying not to judge. 137 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:27.040 I'm trying not to judge here Incess's best but your 138 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:27.879 cousin to the test. 139 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:33.480 Oh okay. So she sold herself as nobility to them, 140 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:38.200 and she had She was the only heir to a 141 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:41.559 rich cousin who never married or had any children. The 142 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:45.080 cousin owned a castle. She told them the chateau they 143 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.320 marcott and it was worth a time. It was a shadow, 144 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:55.320 right is it chateau? Sorry? Oh my god, Oh my gosh. 145 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:56.919 That just scared me. My cat in the corner. I 146 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:58.559 was like, what the hell was that because it was 147 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:00.360 like halfway up the wall. It was just I can't 148 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:03.120 be in spider man. Sorry. It convinced Frederic's parents to 149 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:05.080 approve of the marriage, but I've seen others that they 150 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:07.440 disapproved and they ran away and got married, So I'm 151 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:10.200 not sure either way. They got married. Frederic was studying 152 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:13.519 law and he went on to become a lawyer. Actually, 153 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:17.159 this is France. What is that a barrister? Right? Sure? 154 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:19.879 They lived a modest life in Paris, and it put 155 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:23.879 the banister in their house. I am so often in 156 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:27.879 the chateau. Well not until her the shat until she dies, 157 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.080 she has to say, right, for the inheritance, it's not 158 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:34.360 there yet, oh right. So they lived a semi modest 159 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:36.840 life in Paris. Frederic would ask, you know, when's that 160 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.720 fortune coming in? And Terese would make something up or 161 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:42.679 change the subject. And then she decided to use that 162 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:45.279 inheritance as credit, you know what I mean, like shopping 163 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:47.559 and be like, hey, i'll get you later. Damn girl, 164 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:53.440 remember that chateau that's coming, I'll get you back. Okay. 165 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:56.480 She started buying the finer things in life, and time 166 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:59.600 passed and the creditors were like, okay, like what is 167 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:02.639 this late? Go to pay us and started asking around 168 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:07.039 about the Chateau de Marcotte and where they were. No 169 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:09.559 one really knew anything about the chateau. Because they were 170 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:11.840 too far away from it. But when one of the 171 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:15.919 creditors vacationed near the chateau, they went to check it out, 172 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.679 to be like, let's see this place, and they found 173 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:21.320 out this is going to be a shocker, that the 174 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:24.600 chateau did not exist. Oh oh my god, I can't 175 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:28.320 believe it. Are you sure? Did they look twice? Did 176 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.639 they look under the rock? Did they pull the curtains away? 177 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:34.639 Did they move the brick? Yes? Did they look around 178 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:39.000 the tree? Therese, now cornered and threatened with legal action 179 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.360 by her creditors, had to admit to her husband that 180 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:44.879 the inheritance was bs. But I guess he was okay 181 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:48.519 with it. And Frederic, although he was an attorney or 182 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:51.120 a barrister, he didn't make enough money to pay it 183 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:54.320 all back, so he went to his father for help. 184 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:57.519 His father, who was the mayor previously, he was now 185 00:10:57.559 --> 00:11:01.559 the Minister of Justice. So a void's scandal and shame. 186 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:04.639 The Minister of Justice just paid everyone back out of 187 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:08.639 his pocket. And then are you ready for this? I'm ready. 188 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:13.200 In eighteen seventy nine, the craziest thing happened. Teres was 189 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:17.000 on a train and she heard what sounded like someone 190 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.399 in distress in the next compartment. Okay, it was like 191 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:23.759 a man groaning in pain. So Teres she pulled this 192 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:27.840 James Bond move. She left her compartment, climbed the side 193 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:31.799 of the train, and entered the other compartment where the 194 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:34.799 groans were coming from. Why didn't she just walk down 195 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:37.279 the hallway? I feel like you're not believing her story? 196 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.799 Are you not on board? I'm waiting till the end 197 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:45.320 to make a discernment here? Okay. So she went into 198 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:47.879 where the groans were coming from. There she found a 199 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:50.960 man keeled over in pain, suffering from a heart attack. 200 00:11:51.519 --> 00:11:56.080 But Teres, thinking quickly, took out some smelling salts and 201 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.480 saved him. This selfless terse doing all of this out 202 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.799 of the goodness of her heart. Once she had saved 203 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.840 the day, I wish you did video. They can't see 204 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:10.120 the look on my face right now. Okay. So, once 205 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:11.879 she had saved the day and the man was well 206 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:14.759 enough to speak, he told her his name was Robert 207 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:18.120 Henry Crawford. He said he was from America and he 208 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:21.000 was a millionaire, and he promised to one day reward 209 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:23.840 her for all she had done. So he took her 210 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.159 name and her address, and he went home to recover, 211 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:30.559 and I owe you, yep, this is what she told everyone. 212 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:32.600 I don't think there was any witnesses there, but this 213 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:34.440 is she told everybody. So I mean, we have no 214 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.000 reason to die. Oh oh yeah, one hundred percent. This 215 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:42.759 is legit. And then, just as Robert Henry Crawford had promised, 216 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:46.799 he died in eighteen eighty one, and Teres received a 217 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.000 letter telling of his passing and news that now she 218 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:55.639 was his beneficiary. Okay, but he did have stipulations. One 219 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:58.799 of them is that his four million pound fortune was 220 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:02.759 to stay locked away until the other stipulations were met. Sorry, 221 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:07.120 this fine. Robert Henry Crawford had two nephews, one named 222 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:08.919 Robert and one named Henry. 223 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:19.399 Oh this is really the artistic ability of this woman 224 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:20.360 is fantastic. 225 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:22.480 I meted by the other day. 226 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.039 The name was John Johnson and I was like, wow, 227 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:26.919 that's original. 228 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:33.399 The parents were like yeah, anything else, oh my god. Okay, okay. 229 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:36.720 So one of those two nephews, Robert or Henry, was 230 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:40.399 to wed Teresa's younger sister when she turned twenty one, 231 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:44.480 and that way the fortune could be divided amongst them 232 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:48.320 and it would stay in the Crawford family. Okay. And 233 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:51.080 then they were to pay terse fourteen thousand pounds a 234 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:56.279 year for life. Okay. And until this, all this paperwork 235 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:58.279 and all the documents and the bonds were to be 236 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:03.360 stored in Teresa's possession in a safe Okay. 237 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:06.600 Let me guess her little sister was like three months old. 238 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:08.679 It's coming, y'all, it's coming. 239 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:12.600 She did have a little sister, Okay, But I mean 240 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:15.480 she met this guy on the train and somehow he 241 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.799 knew that's a little But maybe. 242 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:20.840 While she's I have a little sister, she's like given 243 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:21.519 an assaults. 244 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:26.559 Oh okay. So now that Teresa was to get this 245 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:29.600 huge inheritance, she could apply for a loan against it, 246 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:32.919 you know. Oh yeah, of course, what is that JG. Wentworth? 247 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:37.919 It's my money and I have now. Teresa and Frederick 248 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:40.600 moved to Paris. While they lived in Paris, they moved 249 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:42.799 to a different part of Paris and bought this huge house, 250 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:47.000 this luxuriously furnished house. They purchased it all on credit. 251 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:49.879 They made a name for themselves in the area. They 252 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:53.480 were dressed to the nines like this lady. If you 253 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:59.000 see pictures of her, she had some giant hats. She 254 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:01.120 She's got a giant app I was like, damn, all right, 255 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:07.480 get it. She got a bbl on credit and she 256 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:12.159 would throw elaborate parties with guests including like prost and 257 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:16.720 the President of France. Oh goodness, okay. And as time 258 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:20.039 went by, people were a little bit skeptical about the inheritance, 259 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:24.080 including an article that was published in the newspaper questioning 260 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:27.600 the existence of the inheritance. But her father in law, 261 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:32.320 who was the Ministry of Defense, he defended it, and 262 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:37.720 then Terese fabricated a court dispute because if there was 263 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:39.960 something in the courts that it had to be true. 264 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:44.759 So Henry and Robert Crawford, aka Teresa's younger brothers, pretending 265 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:47.919 to be them oh boy, went to the court trying 266 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:51.120 to contest the terms of the uncle's will and lawyers 267 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:53.799 were hired, but the judge ruled that their uncle's wishes 268 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:55.879 were to be followed and Teres was to keep the 269 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:58.720 fortune and documents in the safe until the marriage occurred. 270 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:03.639 It was Robert Henry Crawford's dying wish. After all, I'm 271 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:07.759 just waiting. I'm just you're waiting. So Terse as well 272 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.639 as her friends and family were also borrowing money against 273 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:15.320 the inheritance, like it wasn't just her okay, so which now, okay, 274 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.840 Teresa has a paper trail, so some believed that it 275 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:23.039 was actually true. But now she was taking out more 276 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:26.039 loans to cover existing loans, like paying I guess the 277 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:28.799 equivalent today to like a minimum on credit card payment, 278 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.279 Like she'd pay a little here and there. But it 279 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:35.679 was just snowballing out of control. And then Teres started 280 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:39.639 doing these pension plans for rich people and for poor people, 281 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:42.399 like give so much now and then when it's time 282 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:46.399 to retire, you'll make so much back. Yeah, So the 283 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:50.200 scandal around Teres started growing. Articles were written about skepticism 284 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:54.639 and Terse and her father publicly disputed them. One of 285 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:58.279 the French bank officials asked Teres, like, where do you 286 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:00.320 have the funds invested? And she was like, oh, I 287 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:03.480 have him in government bonds. So he worked for the 288 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:07.440 bank and checked and he saw that this was not true. Oh. 289 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:11.480 The creditors did some calculating and they calculated the amount 290 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:16.599 that Teres owed and it wasn't anywhere near what she 291 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.079 was going to receive, so they decided to sue her. 292 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:22.000 Like all of her creditors, and the court heard the arguments, 293 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:24.319 and the court agreed the safe should be opened to 294 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:26.319 verify the money is in there, like that she has 295 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:29.160 enough coming in that will cover everything. When they opened 296 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:32.759 the safe in nineteen oh one, inside they found some 297 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:37.759 old newspapers, Oh boy, an Italian coin, and a button. 298 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:42.119 Oh that tracks I can afford the world. Some articles 299 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:44.119 say that a brick was in there as well, so 300 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:45.920 I don't know if that's true or not. Oh, it 301 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:50.119 probably was. She might have got smart and put more 302 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:53.200 than one brick in, but still no coke. No coke. 303 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:57.599 That's unfortunate. The swindle affected thousands of creditors and pensions 304 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:00.799 people that like relied on this money to retire. And 305 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:03.039 by the time all this came to light, the Humbirds 306 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:06.799 had already fled and they were later apprehended in Madrid 307 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:10.119 in nineteen oh two. A lot of people didn't come 308 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:13.519 forward out of embarrassment, because you know, you can't wouldn't 309 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:15.960 want to get swindled, especially by a woman. Oh yeah, 310 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:20.279 I haven't forbid. She even swindled Matisse like through his wife, 311 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:25.240 like they got caught up in the painter. Yeah, because 312 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:28.039 she like worked with Teres or somehow they got caught 313 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:31.000 up in it too. During the trial, Teres claimed that 314 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:34.599 she was innocent and she was the victim of users, 315 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:37.480 like the person that lends money at an obscene amount 316 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:41.839 of interest rate, a loan shark. Yeah, but that's what 317 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:44.039 she says. She was innocent. It was a loan shark. 318 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:48.240 It was a one ard bandit the one arm. It 319 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:52.359 was a hash sleeking slasher. I love see. It was 320 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:57.200 like this, my bob knows FERRAUDU just flip okay. So 321 00:18:57.359 --> 00:19:00.559 she was like, later, I'll tell tell you where to 322 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:02.279 find the money. This is what she told the court, 323 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:04.400 that she'll tell them later where all the money is. 324 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:08.480 In an article in the Sydney Morning Herald in August ninth, 325 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:13.559 nineteen oh three, titled the Humbart's Fraud, it said, quote 326 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:17.920 throughout the female accuse showed consumable skill as an actress. 327 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:26.680 She was threatening, arrogant, pathetic and sarcastic. By turns all right, man, 328 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:33.160 are we related? She seems so complex? Oh wait, now 329 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.960 we're related. Got extend that piggy Yep? I like it. Yep. 330 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:40.640 Her husband was like, what, I'm not a businessman. My 331 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:42.759 wife handles all that, Like, I don't even know what 332 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:46.119 you're talking about. Oh, my thist just keeps getting better. 333 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:49.279 And Teresa was sentenced to five years hard labor, but 334 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:53.000 that was for living like extravagantly for twenty years. Five 335 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:56.440 years hard labor. I don't think that that was really 336 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:59.759 fair considering she ruined how many people's pension and retirement? 337 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:04.400 That sucks. Oh yeah, her husband also got five years. 338 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:08.599 Teresa's brothers, who presented themselves as the Crawford nephews, each 339 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:12.680 got two to three years, and Teresa's sister daughter and 340 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:14.960 now deceased father in law. Sorry, I don't know what 341 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:17.240 just happen to my voice. We're all said to be 342 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:21.160 victims and not charged. When Teresa finished her five years 343 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:24.119 of hard labor, she was released. Some say she went 344 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:27.440 to the US She lived in Chicago until dying in 345 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:31.480 nineteen eighteen, while others say she stayed in France. But 346 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:35.480 Frederic Humbert died in nineteen thirty six and he was 347 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:39.559 not listed as a widower, which could be a clerical error, 348 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:43.039 or maybe Terse did outlive her husband, especially because she 349 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:45.400 was said to have inherited some money from her brother 350 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:49.160 in nineteen thirty nine, which is three years after Frederick died. 351 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:54.319 Interesting either way, Teresa Humbert was a grifter who lived 352 00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:57.519 in luxury for decades on the expense of others. I 353 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:00.200 want to like, I kind of am impressed, But she 354 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:04.160 did use her charisma round her elaborate scam exploiting all 355 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:08.880 these people, and she ruined numerous creditors and people's retirements. 356 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:11.400 What are your thoughts now that I'm done rambling. 357 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:14.799 Dude, She's like a great a narcissist. I'm impressed. I mean, 358 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:17.880 to get away with that as a woman in those 359 00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:22.039 days is impressive because most of the time women were 360 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:24.359 just property essentially. 361 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:26.480 I mean, you were just whatever most of the time. 362 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:29.000 Even if you look at articles in the newspaper back then, 363 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:30.440 you didn't even get a name. 364 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:34.359 It was so and so's wife. Yeahs missus johns Man. 365 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:36.960 Yeah, I'm missus so and So. I'm missus such and such. 366 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:42.880 It was yeah, missus John Johnson, missus John Johnson. And 367 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:44.880 that's the thing, is like they weren't even accounted for 368 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:47.039 the fact that they had any rights or anything. So 369 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:49.240 I'm surprised that she was able to swindle this because 370 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:51.519 I didn't even think that women were able to take 371 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:55.519 out loans and stuff at such like during this timeframe. 372 00:21:55.960 --> 00:21:59.799 Yeah, I feel like her husband's slash cousin was complicit 373 00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:03.279 as well, because how else could she have done that 374 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:06.279 unless France was different than here on loans and stuff with. 375 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:08.920 You, I guess it's I guess that's true. 376 00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:11.359 It's that confidence, though I could never have that, Like 377 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:14.599 watching that movie, what is that one with Leonardo DiCaprio 378 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:17.359 where he like fakes his pilot everything and just makes 379 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:19.720 it running cons and stamps on. 380 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:22.039 Everyone can't catch me if you can. 381 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:24.880 Yeah, that's definitely it. But I can't stand that movie 382 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:28.640 because it gives me palpitation. Trick is you have to believe, 383 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:32.039 but I don't. I'll my face turns to red. I'm 384 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:35.599 pale or red. So when I get like stressed out 385 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:38.319 or embarrassed, I'm bright red. I'm a tomato. 386 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:40.839 That's why you just put that. You put that concealer 387 00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:42.799 on and you just fake it till you make it. 388 00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:46.759 I couldn't do it. I mean the trick is acting as. 389 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:49.359 If it act the part dressed for the just for 390 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:50.960 the job you want, not the job you have. 391 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:53.839 And because it wasn't done that much by women, These 392 00:22:53.880 --> 00:22:56.519 people were probably beyond mortified, and they didn't want to 393 00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:58.839 come forward because like, oh, my goodness, a woman couldn't 394 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:01.599 do that. Yeah, you know how embarrassing that would be 395 00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:03.599 for a man back then that a woman out smart 396 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:03.960 at him. 397 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:07.880 Oh yeah, they can't have none of that shit. I'm 398 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:09.680 impressed that she was able to do it, and do 399 00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:13.160 it for so long without the evidence. I mean, there 400 00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:16.160 was no proof. She had nothing but the smoke coming 401 00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:18.880