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Speaker 2: today we're going to be covering a swindler. Swindler ooh,
Speaker 2: over a century before Anna Delvi fooled High society. Before
Speaker 2: Bernie made off, before Charles Ponzi, there was a lesser
Speaker 2: known grifter, a swindler, if you will, I'm gonna butcher this.
Speaker 2: It's French Teres Humbert. I'm just going to call her
Speaker 2: Teres because I'm not trying to do that all Humberg,
Speaker 2: because it's not like Hombart, Hamburger, Terrees Hamburger Hamburglar for short.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, she was a woman in the eighteen hundreds
Speaker 2: that pretended to be an heir to millions and got
Speaker 2: away with it for decades, living in the lap of
Speaker 2: luxury touchet.
Speaker 3: All right, I got a note pad out here. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be taking notes on how to pull this off.
Speaker 2: There are different articles I got it from. I'm terrible
Speaker 2: at citing books, so I'm just gonna tell you which
Speaker 2: book I also used. It's called La Grande Teres, The
Speaker 2: Greatest Scandal of the Century, and it was by Hilary Spurling.
Speaker 2: All right, okay, he was born Teres Derek Knack. It's
Speaker 2: definitely not pronounced. It's definitely like dar nach or something
Speaker 2: like that. Dochnak sure sound right? Into a peasant family
Speaker 2: in eighteen fifty six, in the small village in France.
Speaker 2: Her father, Guiermo Doc was a foundling. Natasha's like, why
Speaker 2: did I come on here? I've heard from the pronunciations.
Speaker 2: Thank you, it's my specialty.
Speaker 3: Next time you go, you just be like I'm doing
Speaker 3: another French episode and be like, son of a bitch,
Speaker 3: I'm in.
Speaker 2: I listen to him and I can't do what they
Speaker 2: do with their mouth making the sounds come out like that.
Speaker 2: That's what she's saying. I feel you with the nineteen nine,
Speaker 2: nineteen oh nine you struggle with I feel the struggle. Now.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's rough. So her father Guiirmo, We're not
Speaker 2: going to say the last name anymore because that's just
Speaker 2: that's too much enough. So he was a foundling. He
Speaker 2: was a child that was like left in a doorstep,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, an orphanage or whatever by
Speaker 2: your parents, just because you couldn't take care of him.
Speaker 2: A basketbaby, okay, a basketball I leave him in a
Speaker 2: basket It is. It just does not sound politically correct,
Speaker 2: but I yeah, that is what it is. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it is or not. It just sounds harsh
Speaker 2: and does out on the basket baby. Uh, there's ah
Speaker 2: see what I think of is I think of the
Speaker 2: Grinch when they left him in a basket? Oh, old
Speaker 2: Bitty's got him.
Speaker 3: I was thinking of whatever whatever that Bible character is
Speaker 3: that Moses was Moses left at a basket?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, basket baby. Oh my gosh, it could be
Speaker 2: a dumpster baby, at least here in a basket. When
Speaker 2: he grew up, Guermo married Rosie Lucy Cappella, and they
Speaker 2: went on to have a bunch of children, one of
Speaker 2: which was Teres before her passing. Before the mother's passing,
Speaker 2: that was worded weird. So Guiermo, who enjoyed his wine
Speaker 2: as well as me tonight, would often imbibe, and when
Speaker 2: he did, he would tell people how he was actually
Speaker 2: of nobility. He wasn't a peasant. Oh and he had
Speaker 2: a fortune and he had properties all this, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't going to him because he fought with his parents.
Speaker 2: It's all going to his children.
Speaker 3: Well, we know that this motherfucker's out there sipping that
Speaker 3: wine with that pinky fully extended.
Speaker 2: Yes, Patrick Starr, why do I think of like kids
Speaker 2: shows on every reference? Remember the higher the pinky I
Speaker 2: like so immature of So he would show people some
Speaker 2: old parchments as proof. And he had a safe well,
Speaker 2: a chest that was sealed, and he would it was
Speaker 2: only to be opened upon his death.
Speaker 3: It's fucking empty. We all know that some bitches empty.
Speaker 2: Then that's when his children would inherit the family's wealth.
Speaker 2: Oh and he would also tell everyone how he was
Speaker 2: an alchemist, and he would run around with like a
Speaker 2: sword or stick and say how he could change the weather.
Speaker 2: So he was eccentric. I like this guy. I like
Speaker 2: this guy.
Speaker 3: I'm fancy and I could change the weather. Hold my
Speaker 3: wand man, it is really coming down outside. I could
Speaker 3: hear it like crazy. I'm right by the exterior wall.
Speaker 3: It is pounded out there.
Speaker 2: We had drizzling all day today, but we didn't have
Speaker 2: any storms. Oh yeah, it's coming. Rain is the calmest
Speaker 2: I am like mentally, I'm not anxious. I'm not stressed out.
Speaker 2: It's raines something. It's very cleansing, it is. I never
Speaker 2: understood why I loved rain so much. But blah blah blah. Okay,
Speaker 2: so Guillermo the guy that you like. In eighteen seventy
Speaker 2: four he died, so the family went to open the
Speaker 2: chest of wealth proof that the children were of nobility
Speaker 2: in all of the land that they were to inherit.
Speaker 2: They cracked the seal in wait, you put all that
Speaker 2: land in the chest? Well, the paperwork for it and
Speaker 2: inside yeah, no, inside there's a lego model scale of
Speaker 2: the castle that're gonna get. I know that tree, the
Speaker 2: trees right there, I can see it. So inside when
Speaker 2: they cracked the seal, do you want to take a
Speaker 2: guess what they found? Nothing? There was something in there,
Speaker 2: and I owe you gotcha? Gotcha? A brick? Oh shit,
Speaker 2: one brick. One brick. He didn't even make it super heavy. Nope,
Speaker 2: just a brick in there. Oh what a slacker? Okay,
Speaker 2: a brick a coke? I mean, what are we talking?
Speaker 2: That would have been worth a lot more. I mean
Speaker 2: there would be some value. Yeah, oh my god. So
Speaker 2: this fanciful thinking that her father had seemed to rub
Speaker 2: off on Teres. As a child, she would tell her
Speaker 2: friends to put all their jewelry together so when they
Speaker 2: met people or got boyfriends, they could trick them into
Speaker 2: thinking that they were actually very wealthy. Terse Now, without
Speaker 2: that fortune, her father had promised, she had to go
Speaker 2: get a job, so she went to go work as
Speaker 2: a maid for Mayor Humbert. Mayor humber was also her uncle. Well,
Speaker 2: it was like his wife was her aunt. There was
Speaker 2: like basically it was the uncle but not I guess
Speaker 2: kind of whatever. Teresa, during her employment got to know
Speaker 2: Frederic Humbert, the mayor's son, also Teresa's first cousin, and
Speaker 2: through her storytelling, Frederic became smitten with Teres. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: I guess she don't have to meet the family. I'm
Speaker 2: trying not to judge.
Speaker 3: I'm trying not to judge here Incess's best but your
Speaker 3: cousin to the test.
Speaker 2: Oh okay. So she sold herself as nobility to them,
Speaker 2: and she had She was the only heir to a
Speaker 2: rich cousin who never married or had any children. The
Speaker 2: cousin owned a castle. She told them the chateau they
Speaker 2: marcott and it was worth a time. It was a shadow,
Speaker 2: right is it chateau? Sorry? Oh my god, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: That just scared me. My cat in the corner. I
Speaker 2: was like, what the hell was that because it was
Speaker 2: like halfway up the wall. It was just I can't
Speaker 2: be in spider man. Sorry. It convinced Frederic's parents to
Speaker 2: approve of the marriage, but I've seen others that they
Speaker 2: disapproved and they ran away and got married, So I'm
Speaker 2: not sure either way. They got married. Frederic was studying
Speaker 2: law and he went on to become a lawyer. Actually,
Speaker 2: this is France. What is that a barrister? Right? Sure?
Speaker 2: They lived a modest life in Paris, and it put
Speaker 2: the banister in their house. I am so often in
Speaker 2: the chateau. Well not until her the shat until she dies,
Speaker 2: she has to say, right, for the inheritance, it's not
Speaker 2: there yet, oh right. So they lived a semi modest
Speaker 2: life in Paris. Frederic would ask, you know, when's that
Speaker 2: fortune coming in? And Terese would make something up or
Speaker 2: change the subject. And then she decided to use that
Speaker 2: inheritance as credit, you know what I mean, like shopping
Speaker 2: and be like, hey, i'll get you later. Damn girl,
Speaker 2: remember that chateau that's coming, I'll get you back. Okay.
Speaker 2: She started buying the finer things in life, and time
Speaker 2: passed and the creditors were like, okay, like what is
Speaker 2: this late? Go to pay us and started asking around
Speaker 2: about the Chateau de Marcotte and where they were. No
Speaker 2: one really knew anything about the chateau. Because they were
Speaker 2: too far away from it. But when one of the
Speaker 2: creditors vacationed near the chateau, they went to check it out,
Speaker 2: to be like, let's see this place, and they found
Speaker 2: out this is going to be a shocker, that the
Speaker 2: chateau did not exist. Oh oh my god, I can't
Speaker 2: believe it. Are you sure? Did they look twice? Did
Speaker 2: they look under the rock? Did they pull the curtains away?
Speaker 2: Did they move the brick? Yes? Did they look around
Speaker 2: the tree? Therese, now cornered and threatened with legal action
Speaker 2: by her creditors, had to admit to her husband that
Speaker 2: the inheritance was bs. But I guess he was okay
Speaker 2: with it. And Frederic, although he was an attorney or
Speaker 2: a barrister, he didn't make enough money to pay it
Speaker 2: all back, so he went to his father for help.
Speaker 2: His father, who was the mayor previously, he was now
Speaker 2: the Minister of Justice. So a void's scandal and shame.
Speaker 2: The Minister of Justice just paid everyone back out of
Speaker 2: his pocket. And then are you ready for this? I'm ready.
Speaker 2: In eighteen seventy nine, the craziest thing happened. Teres was
Speaker 2: on a train and she heard what sounded like someone
Speaker 2: in distress in the next compartment. Okay, it was like
Speaker 2: a man groaning in pain. So Teres she pulled this
Speaker 2: James Bond move. She left her compartment, climbed the side
Speaker 2: of the train, and entered the other compartment where the
Speaker 2: groans were coming from. Why didn't she just walk down
Speaker 2: the hallway? I feel like you're not believing her story?
Speaker 2: Are you not on board? I'm waiting till the end
Speaker 2: to make a discernment here? Okay. So she went into
Speaker 2: where the groans were coming from. There she found a
Speaker 2: man keeled over in pain, suffering from a heart attack.
Speaker 2: But Teres, thinking quickly, took out some smelling salts and
Speaker 2: saved him. This selfless terse doing all of this out
Speaker 2: of the goodness of her heart. Once she had saved
Speaker 2: the day, I wish you did video. They can't see
Speaker 2: the look on my face right now. Okay. So, once
Speaker 2: she had saved the day and the man was well
Speaker 2: enough to speak, he told her his name was Robert
Speaker 2: Henry Crawford. He said he was from America and he
Speaker 2: was a millionaire, and he promised to one day reward
Speaker 2: her for all she had done. So he took her
Speaker 2: name and her address, and he went home to recover,
Speaker 2: and I owe you, yep, this is what she told everyone.
Speaker 2: I don't think there was any witnesses there, but this
Speaker 2: is she told everybody. So I mean, we have no
Speaker 2: reason to die. Oh oh yeah, one hundred percent. This
Speaker 2: is legit. And then, just as Robert Henry Crawford had promised,
Speaker 2: he died in eighteen eighty one, and Teres received a
Speaker 2: letter telling of his passing and news that now she
Speaker 2: was his beneficiary. Okay, but he did have stipulations. One
Speaker 2: of them is that his four million pound fortune was
Speaker 2: to stay locked away until the other stipulations were met. Sorry,
Speaker 2: this fine. Robert Henry Crawford had two nephews, one named
Speaker 2: Robert and one named Henry.
Speaker 4: Oh this is really the artistic ability of this woman
Speaker 4: is fantastic.
Speaker 2: I meted by the other day.
Speaker 3: The name was John Johnson and I was like, wow,
Speaker 3: that's original.
Speaker 2: The parents were like yeah, anything else, oh my god. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So one of those two nephews, Robert or Henry, was
Speaker 2: to wed Teresa's younger sister when she turned twenty one,
Speaker 2: and that way the fortune could be divided amongst them
Speaker 2: and it would stay in the Crawford family. Okay. And
Speaker 2: then they were to pay terse fourteen thousand pounds a
Speaker 2: year for life. Okay. And until this, all this paperwork
Speaker 2: and all the documents and the bonds were to be
Speaker 2: stored in Teresa's possession in a safe Okay.
Speaker 3: Let me guess her little sister was like three months old.
Speaker 3: It's coming, y'all, it's coming.
Speaker 2: She did have a little sister, Okay, But I mean
Speaker 2: she met this guy on the train and somehow he
Speaker 2: knew that's a little But maybe.
Speaker 3: While she's I have a little sister, she's like given
Speaker 3: an assaults.
Speaker 2: Oh okay. So now that Teresa was to get this
Speaker 2: huge inheritance, she could apply for a loan against it,
Speaker 2: you know. Oh yeah, of course, what is that JG. Wentworth?
Speaker 2: It's my money and I have now. Teresa and Frederick
Speaker 2: moved to Paris. While they lived in Paris, they moved
Speaker 2: to a different part of Paris and bought this huge house,
Speaker 2: this luxuriously furnished house. They purchased it all on credit.
Speaker 2: They made a name for themselves in the area. They
Speaker 2: were dressed to the nines like this lady. If you
Speaker 2: see pictures of her, she had some giant hats. She
Speaker 2: She's got a giant app I was like, damn, all right,
Speaker 2: get it. She got a bbl on credit and she
Speaker 2: would throw elaborate parties with guests including like prost and
Speaker 2: the President of France. Oh goodness, okay. And as time
Speaker 2: went by, people were a little bit skeptical about the inheritance,
Speaker 2: including an article that was published in the newspaper questioning
Speaker 2: the existence of the inheritance. But her father in law,
Speaker 2: who was the Ministry of Defense, he defended it, and
Speaker 2: then Terese fabricated a court dispute because if there was
Speaker 2: something in the courts that it had to be true.
Speaker 2: So Henry and Robert Crawford, aka Teresa's younger brothers, pretending
Speaker 2: to be them oh boy, went to the court trying
Speaker 2: to contest the terms of the uncle's will and lawyers
Speaker 2: were hired, but the judge ruled that their uncle's wishes
Speaker 2: were to be followed and Teres was to keep the
Speaker 2: fortune and documents in the safe until the marriage occurred.
Speaker 2: It was Robert Henry Crawford's dying wish. After all, I'm
Speaker 2: just waiting. I'm just you're waiting. So Terse as well
Speaker 2: as her friends and family were also borrowing money against
Speaker 2: the inheritance, like it wasn't just her okay, so which now, okay,
Speaker 2: Teresa has a paper trail, so some believed that it
Speaker 2: was actually true. But now she was taking out more
Speaker 2: loans to cover existing loans, like paying I guess the
Speaker 2: equivalent today to like a minimum on credit card payment,
Speaker 2: Like she'd pay a little here and there. But it
Speaker 2: was just snowballing out of control. And then Teres started
Speaker 2: doing these pension plans for rich people and for poor people,
Speaker 2: like give so much now and then when it's time
Speaker 2: to retire, you'll make so much back. Yeah, So the
Speaker 2: scandal around Teres started growing. Articles were written about skepticism
Speaker 2: and Terse and her father publicly disputed them. One of
Speaker 2: the French bank officials asked Teres, like, where do you
Speaker 2: have the funds invested? And she was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: have him in government bonds. So he worked for the
Speaker 2: bank and checked and he saw that this was not true. Oh.
Speaker 2: The creditors did some calculating and they calculated the amount
Speaker 2: that Teres owed and it wasn't anywhere near what she
Speaker 2: was going to receive, so they decided to sue her.
Speaker 2: Like all of her creditors, and the court heard the arguments,
Speaker 2: and the court agreed the safe should be opened to
Speaker 2: verify the money is in there, like that she has
Speaker 2: enough coming in that will cover everything. When they opened
Speaker 2: the safe in nineteen oh one, inside they found some
Speaker 2: old newspapers, Oh boy, an Italian coin, and a button.
Speaker 2: Oh that tracks I can afford the world. Some articles
Speaker 2: say that a brick was in there as well, so
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true or not. Oh, it
Speaker 2: probably was. She might have got smart and put more
Speaker 2: than one brick in, but still no coke. No coke.
Speaker 2: That's unfortunate. The swindle affected thousands of creditors and pensions
Speaker 2: people that like relied on this money to retire. And
Speaker 2: by the time all this came to light, the Humbirds
Speaker 2: had already fled and they were later apprehended in Madrid
Speaker 2: in nineteen oh two. A lot of people didn't come
Speaker 2: forward out of embarrassment, because you know, you can't wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to get swindled, especially by a woman. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I haven't forbid. She even swindled Matisse like through his wife,
Speaker 2: like they got caught up in the painter. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: she like worked with Teres or somehow they got caught
Speaker 2: up in it too. During the trial, Teres claimed that
Speaker 2: she was innocent and she was the victim of users,
Speaker 2: like the person that lends money at an obscene amount
Speaker 2: of interest rate, a loan shark. Yeah, but that's what
Speaker 2: she says. She was innocent. It was a loan shark.
Speaker 2: It was a one ard bandit the one arm. It
Speaker 2: was a hash sleeking slasher. I love see. It was
Speaker 2: like this, my bob knows FERRAUDU just flip okay. So
Speaker 2: she was like, later, I'll tell tell you where to
Speaker 2: find the money. This is what she told the court,
Speaker 2: that she'll tell them later where all the money is.
Speaker 2: In an article in the Sydney Morning Herald in August ninth,
Speaker 2: nineteen oh three, titled the Humbart's Fraud, it said, quote
Speaker 2: throughout the female accuse showed consumable skill as an actress.
Speaker 2: She was threatening, arrogant, pathetic and sarcastic. By turns all right, man,
Speaker 2: are we related? She seems so complex? Oh wait, now
Speaker 2: we're related. Got extend that piggy Yep? I like it. Yep.
Speaker 2: Her husband was like, what, I'm not a businessman. My
Speaker 2: wife handles all that, Like, I don't even know what
Speaker 2: you're talking about. Oh, my thist just keeps getting better.
Speaker 2: And Teresa was sentenced to five years hard labor, but
Speaker 2: that was for living like extravagantly for twenty years. Five
Speaker 2: years hard labor. I don't think that that was really
Speaker 2: fair considering she ruined how many people's pension and retirement?
Speaker 2: That sucks. Oh yeah, her husband also got five years.
Speaker 2: Teresa's brothers, who presented themselves as the Crawford nephews, each
Speaker 2: got two to three years, and Teresa's sister daughter and
Speaker 2: now deceased father in law. Sorry, I don't know what
Speaker 2: just happen to my voice. We're all said to be
Speaker 2: victims and not charged. When Teresa finished her five years
Speaker 2: of hard labor, she was released. Some say she went
Speaker 2: to the US She lived in Chicago until dying in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighteen, while others say she stayed in France. But
Speaker 2: Frederic Humbert died in nineteen thirty six and he was
Speaker 2: not listed as a widower, which could be a clerical error,
Speaker 2: or maybe Terse did outlive her husband, especially because she
Speaker 2: was said to have inherited some money from her brother
Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty nine, which is three years after Frederick died.
Speaker 2: Interesting either way, Teresa Humbert was a grifter who lived
Speaker 2: in luxury for decades on the expense of others. I
Speaker 2: want to like, I kind of am impressed, But she
Speaker 2: did use her charisma round her elaborate scam exploiting all
Speaker 2: these people, and she ruined numerous creditors and people's retirements.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts now that I'm done rambling.
Speaker 3: Dude, She's like a great a narcissist. I'm impressed. I mean,
Speaker 3: to get away with that as a woman in those
Speaker 3: days is impressive because most of the time women were
Speaker 3: just property essentially.
Speaker 2: I mean, you were just whatever most of the time.
Speaker 3: Even if you look at articles in the newspaper back then,
Speaker 3: you didn't even get a name.
Speaker 2: It was so and so's wife. Yeahs missus johns Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm missus so and So. I'm missus such and such.
Speaker 3: It was yeah, missus John Johnson, missus John Johnson. And
Speaker 3: that's the thing, is like they weren't even accounted for
Speaker 3: the fact that they had any rights or anything. So
Speaker 3: I'm surprised that she was able to swindle this because
Speaker 3: I didn't even think that women were able to take
Speaker 3: out loans and stuff at such like during this timeframe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like her husband's slash cousin was complicit
Speaker 2: as well, because how else could she have done that
Speaker 2: unless France was different than here on loans and stuff with.
Speaker 3: You, I guess it's I guess that's true.
Speaker 2: It's that confidence, though I could never have that, Like
Speaker 2: watching that movie, what is that one with Leonardo DiCaprio
Speaker 2: where he like fakes his pilot everything and just makes
Speaker 2: it running cons and stamps on.
Speaker 3: Everyone can't catch me if you can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely it. But I can't stand that movie
Speaker 2: because it gives me palpitation. Trick is you have to believe,
Speaker 2: but I don't. I'll my face turns to red. I'm
Speaker 2: pale or red. So when I get like stressed out
Speaker 2: or embarrassed, I'm bright red. I'm a tomato.
Speaker 3: That's why you just put that. You put that concealer
Speaker 3: on and you just fake it till you make it.
Speaker 2: I couldn't do it. I mean the trick is acting as.
Speaker 3: If it act the part dressed for the just for
Speaker 3: the job you want, not the job you have.
Speaker 2: And because it wasn't done that much by women, These
Speaker 2: people were probably beyond mortified, and they didn't want to
Speaker 2: come forward because like, oh, my goodness, a woman couldn't
Speaker 2: do that. Yeah, you know how embarrassing that would be
Speaker 2: for a man back then that a woman out smart
Speaker 2: at him.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they can't have none of that shit. I'm
Speaker 3: impressed that she was able to do it, and do
Speaker 3: it for so long without the evidence. I mean, there
Speaker 3: was no proof. She had nothing but the smoke coming
Speaker 3: out of her ass. Right. That's the part that I
Speaker 3: think is so crazy, is there was nothing to show
Speaker 3: for absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2: Maybe the brick nowadays, can you imagine being like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've got this money.
Speaker 3: But you can't see it. Yeah, maybe to throw to
Speaker 3: a window to rob a bank, if that's about it.
Speaker 2: I'm very surprised.
Speaker 3: That she was able to get away with what she
Speaker 3: got away with, and especially for so long. And who
Speaker 3: the hell cures a heart attack with fucking smelling salts teres?
Speaker 2: I guess back then they didn't know any better. Right.
Speaker 2: The thing is to her sister, when she turned twenty one,
Speaker 2: that came and went, and she kept on making excuses
Speaker 2: like she was at the age where she was supposed
Speaker 2: to marry. What was the guy's first name, Robert and whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Robert Henry. But that came and went and passed, and
Speaker 2: she just kept bullshitting her way through.
Speaker 3: Sometimes the best thing you can do is make another
Speaker 3: lie and another lie, and then it's snowballs, and then
Speaker 3: you just gotta keep you to stick with the lie.
Speaker 2: You know. But people believed her. It must have been
Speaker 2: that confidence. So she must have had this charisma about
Speaker 2: her or just just believable enough. She was rubbing elbows
Speaker 2: with like famous artists. Yeah, that too. And if you're
Speaker 2: ever caught be like, I'm a woman, I'm stupid. I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I thought this brick was a million dollars. You mean
Speaker 3: it's not made of gold, hold and breed. Yeah, don't
Speaker 3: mind me. I'm just hysterical this week. That's just that's impressive.
Speaker 2: I feel like it should be more well known. I
Speaker 2: guess there is a mini series on it, and I
Speaker 2: wanted to watch that. I didn't get a chance to yet, though,
Speaker 2: And that book that I mentioned goes a lot deeper.
Speaker 3: It would be interesting, though, to watch and see how
Speaker 3: kind of it unfolds well. And the thing is, she
Speaker 3: spaced it out enough to where I feel like that
Speaker 3: kind of helped her. She didn't do too much, too
Speaker 3: fat to make it completely unbelievable.
Speaker 2: She spaced it out to where you're like.
Speaker 3: Okay, I can see that, Like you might have doubts,
Speaker 3: but you're like, no, that kind of makes sense.
Speaker 2: What's it on? But she literally bought like a castle
Speaker 2: with it. It wasn't like, hey, let me use like
Speaker 2: a hundred whatever. It was just like a straight castle. Well,
Speaker 2: go big or go home. I guess I can find
Speaker 2: it on IMDb. I just can't see how to see
Speaker 2: where to watch it? What's it called? Teres Humbert like,
Speaker 2: just turn to name?
Speaker 3: Okay, well then you can just if you have a
Speaker 3: smart TV, you can just search it on there and
Speaker 3: it'll pull it up.
Speaker 2: Oh is this all in French much?
Speaker 3: I just watched the Cinderella rendition and it was all
Speaker 3: in Romanian and I had to use subtitles and it
Speaker 3: was fucked up. There was like a full on Wiener
Speaker 3: like it was a Wiener.
Speaker 2: Like rock Hard. I was like, what am I watching? Did?
Speaker 2: I like turn to a porno and the girl was
Speaker 2: like straight up bit over.
Speaker 3: You saw like you saw all of it. It wasn't like
Speaker 3: a top of you know, it was like straight.
Speaker 2: On, Oh my god. Yeah, I was like, what is happening?
Speaker 2: Have you seen the new season of ted No? No,
Speaker 2: when the Teddy Bear had the strap on, I lost
Speaker 2: my I was hysterical and almost my parents.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I haven't seen I've seen previews for it,
Speaker 3: but I haven't watched it.
Speaker 2: You have to. You have to watch it. I've been
Speaker 2: on a Jeopardy kick this week. Oh would I get
Speaker 2: anxious or I just want to like clear my mind?
Speaker 2: Any trivia game show makes me happy. I might have
Speaker 2: to try that. It makes your mind think so you
Speaker 2: can't think about everything else. That's why like I play
Speaker 2: video games, because if you have to focus on it
Speaker 2: or else, and that kind of pushes Yeah, that is
Speaker 2: a good point. You know, it's really hard.
Speaker 3: I was watch it was a Cuphead. That game's fucking
Speaker 3: hard as shit. It looks like it'd be.
Speaker 2: For a little kid. Is that the black and white one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well something, but it looks like it's not all
Speaker 3: black and white.
Speaker 2: I played that with my kid and I was gonna
Speaker 2: smash the monitor. It looks like it would be like
Speaker 2: an epic Mickey like fun. It sucks it's strul so aggraating.
Speaker 2: I hate it hard. It is so hard.
Speaker 3: Like me and my boyfriend were playing it and we
Speaker 3: were like, nah.
Speaker 2: But you should have the ability to beat it. I
Speaker 2: mean we got pretty far. It just took us all night.
Speaker 2: I didn't like that game. We tried for a bit
Speaker 2: and I just got pissed. I'm like, yeah, I'm done,
Speaker 2: I'm going back. It is very very very difficult. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess that's it. Thank you so much for coming on, Natasha,
Speaker 2: and remember to check us out over on creep it Weird.
Speaker 2: We Like I said, just got the YouTube up and running,
Speaker 2: which was thanks to Natasha fighting with that.
Speaker 3: Hey we got it done. I am stubborn and bullheaded.
Speaker 3: It's gonna happen. If it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: She proved she was not a robot to YouTube today,
Speaker 2: so that was good. Yep, I am a real I'm
Speaker 2: a real girl. But yeah, no, definitely check us out
Speaker 2: over there. We were on all the wherever you find podcasts,
Speaker 2: yeah there, and we're on all social media platforms on
Speaker 2: creep it Weird and anything else. I can't think of anything,
Speaker 2: all right, Well, thank you everybody for listening. Thank you Natasha,
Speaker 2: so much for coming on. I was gonna say, remember
Speaker 2: to keep creep it weird. This is the wrong podcast
Speaker 2: until next time. Bye.
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