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Speaker 1: Hi. This is Francine Valley from West Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada,

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and I play a Squamish Valley golf course. This is

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Golf Smarter number nine hundred and seventy three.

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Speaker 2: There was a story of Sam Steed and it's a

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week before he's playing in his first PGA Tour event.

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And it's in nineteen thirty six. He's at the Greenbrier

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and the head pro organized a big match's going to

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be this rookie Samsteed, that's the big up and coming name.

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He's going to play against the former US Open champion.

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He's going to play against two other US Amateur champions.

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As a result, work gets out massive crowd around the

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first tee and Sam Steed is last hood. He is

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shaking so bad and is so nervous that he's basically

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on the verge of a panic attack. He was shaking

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so bad that he couldn't steady the ball in the

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tea with one hand. He had to use his other hand.

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That's setting the stage for how nervous he was, so

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he backs up. He's doing his visualization and what most

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people are not aware until after a fact, but what

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Sam actually does is he closes his eyes and he

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relives his most amazing drives on that same hole. He

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collects himself, moves forward, and then he hits the shot.

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Then a crowd they're like, whoa. The reason why everybody

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was like gasman is because he just outdrove his playing

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partners by fifteen yards, and only that he has hit

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about ten yards further than all of his most successful

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drives on that same hole. How does a guy go

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from a verge of a panic attack to then hitting

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his best drive ever just moments later?

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Speaker 3: Dave Man Golf, Seaball Seed, Target, Hit Ball Road to

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the Tour Summit with Bo Watson.

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Speaker 1: This is Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips and insights from

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great golf minds to help you lower your score and

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raise your golf IQ.

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Speaker 3: Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome back to the Golf Smarter.

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Speaker 2: Podcast, Bo, Fred, it's a pleasure to be back. Thanks.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's been a while since we've had a

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chance to catch up, and you've been doing some really

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remarkable stuff as far as the golf training side of

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it and creating these summits. And we'll talk about your

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upcoming summit later, but let's talk about what's going on

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in the media space. You know, we briefly touched as

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before we started recording, and I didn't want to go

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too deep into because I really want to hear your

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thoughts on it. But there seems to be this movement

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from the tourist side to look towards things like YouTube

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and media influencers who are being invited to play and compete. Now,

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what is going on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty fascinating. I mean, we're watching I think

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it just speaks volumes to the platform that YouTube has

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been able to provide the golf space. I mean, you

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can look for it for some really good information, but

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I mean, if I'm gonna be honest, there's a lot

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of bad information out there. But on the side of that,

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that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: That we talk about all the times, like just be

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careful about YouTube because there's so much conflicting information that

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you can just your mind will.

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Speaker 2: Explode one hundred percent. And you know, for the I

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would say for the greater part of like say the

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last fourteen fifteen years, I mean it's been primarily used

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in the golf space as a place to go and

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get instruction information, right, but over the last like I

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would say three to five years. You know, you've had

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some influencers come out and kind of overtake Rick Shill

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so to speak, as far as like, you know, the

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most subscribers on YouTube. And when you look at the

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Good Good, you look at Grant Horvat's and you look

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at those types, even Brian Brothers and those guys, and

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it's it's fascinating because now it's kind of like shifted

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into a direction where it's all about entertainment, and you

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got all these guys and YouTube stars that are playing

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against each other in these matches and they're bringing a

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lot of eyeballs to it. And so as a result

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of that, you know, PGA Tours taken notice and earlier

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this year, interestingly enough, they actually believe it was several

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spots they offered, as you know, exemptions or sponsor invites

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into the Myrtle Beach. That was the first year that

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Myrtle Beach has had like a PGA Tour event, and

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so several of these guys actually were able to go

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play in a PGA Tour event. So it's pretty interesting.

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first time they ever did this. But the week of

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the Tour Championship. They had what was called the very

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first I believe Creators Cup. I think it was played

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on Monday or Tuesday. And what was so interesting about

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it is that you know, you had you know, Luke Kwan,

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you had I believe it was Wesley Bryan. I don't

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know if George played in it, but you had a

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few of the good good guys, Page Spirnaka I think

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is how you said you last name, Amy Chow and

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or a few others like that. And so it was

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all these like big top influencers that are invited to

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play into US event and Lukewan ends up winning it

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in a playoff, and if I'm not mistaken, because he

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won that, he got an exemption or an invite into

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next year's Masters and the Open Championship.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, tell me about it.

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Speaker 3: That's really remarkable. And so there, I guess it looks

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like PGA is recognizing what's going on, you know. And

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it's interesting because a lot of the names that you

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mentioned I'm not familiar with that. I'm obsessed with YouTube,

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you know, I really enjoy no matter what I think

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of live, but I really enjoy watching Bryson and his

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break fifty. I think it's just such a great idea.

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And I've asked a friend of mine, I said, look,

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instead of competing against each other, why don't you and

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I just go out together, combine our efforts and see

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if we can shoot par And he's like, yeah, I'd

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Speaker 2: Try that, so just make sure you film it.

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Speaker 3: No, no, you know that's the thing is. And I've

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always it's like, oh, I'll just bring the camera out

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and we'll just video. It's like no, no, no. These

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guys are going out there with a crew. They've got

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multiple microphones, they got at least to probably three cameras

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going at any given time. Dragging around these guys, and

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it's like, I just that's a lot of pressure. You

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forget about gambling, just doing it in front of a

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camera a lot more pressure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, but hey, what better way to

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similar pressure? And uh, you know, work on your tournament golf? Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what you're doing, right, You're you're you're

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talking about tournament golf and playing to win as opposed

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to just playing. You've been focusing on how how golfers

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can just like no, no, no, I'm a very competitive person

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I want to win? How do I do that?

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Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, that's a that's a key subject, right because

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everybody talks about I remember doctor Rick Jensen talking about

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this one time and I'll never forget it. He talks

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to like there's like four phases of you know, playing

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golf so to speak, and training. First phase is kind

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of like you're leaves like block practice, like where you're

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working on your swing and stuff like that. And then

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there's like a second phase that you know, you're you're

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starting to kind of transition and do like game like

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scenarios and I could be missing the vote on this,

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but you know, the principle is still the same. And

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then the third phase is like you're going out on

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the course, which is what he called like transfer training,

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like how are we able to take the skills that

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we're learning in a practice environment and able to take

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it to the course. And then the last phase is, right,

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how do we do it in a tournament setting? How

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are we doing under pressure? And that's a totally different animal,

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and I we specialize in, which is more of the

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mental side, and that's where we show golfers. We call

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it psychond mask of training. It's it's it's teaching people

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how to get into the zone at a flip of

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a switch. You know. The more appropriate scientific term, obviously,

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he's flow state. And we we like to coin or

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talk about. We coined the term, you know, caveman golf.

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You know, when you when you play your best golf,

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it's it's when you see target, seaball hit ball. And

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it was funny. Scott Fawls and I were having a

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conversation just last week and he's he was sharing, you know,

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a little bit of how he's been playing, and you know,

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he invited Garret Clark in his only YouTube channel and

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just talking to him about that. But you know, these

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last few weeks, like Scott has been playing like lights

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out and it's been funny because what he shared on

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the phone was like, this is the first time and

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I don't know how many years where I do not

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have a a single swing key or swing fault. And

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I was like, well, Scott, you know what that is, right,

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and he's like, I don't know. It's like, you know,

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I said, that's caveman golf. You know, it's just sea target, seatball,

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hit ball, and we know that when a golfer can

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get to that place, all is a special place to

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be in because honestly, that's where your best golf is

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going to be. And that's in any sport. I mean

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you go ask you know, like the late Kobe Bryant

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or anybody, or even Lebron. You know, when they're playing

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their best, they're not sitting there talking about how their

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elbow flexion is and where the pressure is on the basketball. No,

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it's like I see the arc of the shot and

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where a lot of golfers to get in trouble so

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fast when they stay in the left side of the brain.

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actually dominate from the left side of the brain is

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playing chess. But you don't want to take to any sport,

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and especially not golf, because when you start getting into

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the overthinking and too many swing thoughts, good luck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally understand it. I've had it a couple

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of times. There's times where I'm like, I'm so comfortable

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out there, I'm not thinking about it. I'm just you know,

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see target, aim, hit it and don't think about what

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what's going on. But the last couple of weeks it's like,

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what am I doing out here? I really feel lost.

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this is not going well. There's periods of time where

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one round. I'm like, who are you playing? Who is this?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: I'm overthinking it? Huh.

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Speaker 2: Very likely you need a reset, you know, And well,

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how do you do that? Oh, that's a good question

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because a lot of people they try to do the

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textbook version, right, you know, they read all that I'm

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not going to call it the books, but you know

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they know what is said in a lot of mental

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game books. But there really isn't anything out there that's

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very practical. And I think that's one of the things

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that really a lot of people in I mean, and

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you can go on our Amazon and honestly, like we're

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not taking credit, Like God gave us the download for

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the book that we wrote, so I'm giving him the

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glory on that. But you know, it's fascinating. One of

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the biggest things that we hear all the time from

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Amazon reviews and people that read our book is that

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it's so practical and so like. One of the things

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that we share about resetting is what's called the ball reset,

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and we go in detail in our chapter, but I'll

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briefly cover it here because like when someone's in what

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we call a red light state, when things are going south,

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like we said, you've lost several balls or something like that,

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you have to do something in order for you to

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get back to what we call a green light state.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Neuroscience. Doctor Is Justice kind of pioneered this part of it,

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you know, analyzing and doing brain scans of you know,

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thousands of golfers and he's done a lot of amazing

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work in this area, and he has shown that, you know,

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when we have so many swing thoughts or so many

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not doing that again. I'm going to try to overcorrect,

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and they overcorrect and then they slice it into the

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water on the right hand side. And at that point

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you're in fight or flight mode at this point. And

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the main thing is if you don't do something here,

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it's going to come off the tracks very very fast.

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And this is where the ball reset enters the picture.

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And so part of the ball reset is we do

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it is called a hard reset.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Piece of this we got from Doctor is Justice, but

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the other part of this is from Brian Kine, which

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is one of our mentors. And what we did is

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we were able to piece this all together. And what's

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so fascinating about it is when you do the hard squeeze.

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This is where like you take a club, or you

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take your hands, you take a towe, it doesn't matter.

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But there's a type of breath that we like to

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utilize which is called a physiological side, which, by the way,

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if you just do that breath alone. Stanford came out

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last year and Pioneer or they came out and shared

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this research and believe it was January last year. You

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go look us up, and the original study of it

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was how to lower anxiety, and so they found that

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this type of breath, Like you could think of all

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the breathing techniques that people have talked about over the

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last like ten twenty years, Well, the physiological side is

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on a totally different level, and it just completely outdid

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every single one of them. You know, the military box breathing,

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all those, right, and physiological SIAO is just in a

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totally different category. So like Scottie Scheffer for when he's

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playing the best, he's like in a totally league of

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his own like tire was in his prime. That's the

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physiological side when it comes to breathing. Okay, so when

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you do a physological SIA, it's like where you're doing

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two quick inhales, like or you're breathing through the nose

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and you're taking like a deep belly breath first, you know,

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in hell, and then it's a very second quick in

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hell pausing, and then you're doing a long exhale out

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your mouth for like five or six seconds. Now, when

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you do the hard reset, you're basically doing the same

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thing where you're going and then you're holding your breath

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and then you're squeezing as hard as you can, so

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like on a pressure of like one to ten. You're

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squeezing that at eleven for five seconds, and then you're

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exhaling slowly while decreasing decreasing the pressure. Let's say on

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the golf club in my grip, and I'm decreasing pressure

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from like a ten down to like a two while

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slowly exhaling. Now, doctor is a justice a part of that.

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He found that when you did just the deep belly breath,

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squeeze as hard as you can, ex hel slowly. They

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found that in an actual real time brain scan on

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a golfer, they found that he went from a red

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light state and it went back down to a green

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light state. And what was interesting is in the brain

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it had the equivalent effect of if you had done

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twenty minutes of meditation or twenty minutes yoga. Talking about

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a massive nerr a hack. Right. So just that piece

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right is part of the B which is breathe. We

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call it breathe hard reset. So that's B is in

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the ball acronym. The next part is as where you

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do an a firm, you do a power talk statement,

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you know say you hit you know your drive ob

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Well you just say hey, you know what? Adversity is

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my advantage. So you say that really quick under your breath.

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The first L is look back. All that simply means

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is we're going to look back to a time where

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we hit an amazing drive on a similar hole or

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maybe it's the same hole, and you're going to relive

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that memory. And so you relive that memory basically like daydreaming.

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So you play that shot over in your head, and

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then once you've done that, then you go to the LASTEL,

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which is look forward. So just in about under twenty seconds,

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we just go through the entire ball acronym, which is

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a hard reset power talk statement. Relive an amazing memory.

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Now your attention back to the present moment. And here's

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the cool part. Let me give it a little bit

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of a story here on that first L.

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Speaker 3: And before you do that, we're going to take a

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time out and I'll hear the story after this. Okay,

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I cut you off, and I apologize for that, but

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I don't so because I needed to absorb what's going

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on here, because I'm going through the breathing part and

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I feel like that I'm creating tension by tightening up

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with this, you know, squeezing it, but then letting it go.

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I think back to doctor Joe Parent telling us about

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the etches sketch, you know that you use when you're

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having a tough time. Just take your edges sketch, flip

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it over, shake it out, and erase the whole thing

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and then start again. But we're at the ball acronym

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breathe a firm, look back, look forward.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: And you had a story to tell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's fascinating is we came across this. I

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forgot where I found it, but there was a story

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of Sam Snead and it's a week before he's playing

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in his first PGA Tour event, Like he's going to

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make his PGA Tour debut, right, And it's in nineteen

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thirty six, I believe is the year, and he's at

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the Greenbrier and the head pro or whoever it was,

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they organize like a big match and so in this match,

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it's going to be this rookie Sam Sneed that's the

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big up and coming name. He's going to play against

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a former US Open champion. He's going to play against

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two other US Amateur champions well. As a result, Work

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gets out massive crowd around the first tee and Now

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Sam Sneed is last to hit. He is shaking so

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bad and is so nervous that he's basically on the

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verge of a panic attack. And to put this in perspective,

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they said that he was shaking so bad that he

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couldn't steady the ball in the tee with one hand.

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He had to use his other hand, all right, So

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that's setting the stage for how nervous he was. So

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he backs up, he gets find the ball. You know,

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he's doing his visualization. And what most people are not

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aware of until after the fact, but what Sam actually

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does is he closes his eyes and he relives his

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most amazing drives on that same hole. Now he collects

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himself and moves forward, and then he hits a shot

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and a crowd like is gasped. You're like, whoa. And

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the reason why everybody was like gasping is because he

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just outdrove his playing partners by about fifteen yards. And

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not only that, he has hit about ten yards further

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than all of his most successful drives on that same hole. Now,

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wait a second, how does a guy go from a

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verge of a panic attack to then hitting his best

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drive ever just moments later? And a big piece of

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that is the first L and the ball acronym is

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what we call the look back. And the reason why

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it's so powerful and it's so important for people to

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utilize is because when you have a bad memory, or

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maybe you have an upcoming shot that's you know you're

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dreading or you're very nervous about. You know, we hear

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all the time people have first T jitters. This is

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an amazing, amazing tool to utilize before you go hit

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that first T shot because here's the thing. You could

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be dreading it. You could be thinking about all the

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negative energy and what if scenarios. But if you go

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through that entire ball acronym where you do the hard

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squeeze and you say something like, hey, the more pressure

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there is, the better I perform, And then you do

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a look back where you maybe go back in time

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where there was a lot of pressure in a certain

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certain shot and you hit your best drive ever and

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you go back and you relive that memory. Well, I

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got to ask you, if you've done those three steps

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and you did it with the right intensity and you

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were obviously walking in faith with those first three steps,

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then that last hole when it comes to looking forward,

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you would have to be at that point pretty excited

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to play that upcoming shot. You would have to be.

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You'd be much better. I mean, let's say you're like

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five percent. Like if we're gonna put a scale on this,

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let's say you're like at a five percent of being

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successful too. Now you do the ball acronym. I mean,

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you just increase your chances of hitting a pretty good

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shot to probably like eighty ninety percent at this point.

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So that's how we practically do a hard reset. So

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when you're in the middle of a round, you're playing

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terrible or you got something that you're dreading, ball reset

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is going to be your secret weapon.

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Speaker 3: Awesome. Also, there's the acceptance. And we talked to Joel

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Suggs a couple episodes back, and he talked about his

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PGA Bell Curve un scoring, which is you're gonna have

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rounds that go poor good average, right, and the bell curve,

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the top of the Bell curve is your average. So

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accept that. Don't beat yourself up, right, lighten up, let

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it go move forward, and stop thinking about your swing

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mechanics because it's only gonna hurt, right, Yeah, it's really

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going the swing. The thinking about swing mechanics.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, swing mechanics. If you think too much about that.

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I mean, don't get me wrong, Like I come from

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a swing background and you know, blessed to learn under

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some amazing minds in the game, and it is a

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piece of the game that you can't ignore. However, if

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you don't shut that off when you're playing, it's going

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to be really, really difficult to play your best. You know,

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you have to eventually either with just like one swing

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thought or one swing key, which is healthy. But when

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you start going and thinking too much about that and

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start adding in more, it's going to be very, very

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tough to perform. And that's that's just the nature of

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the game. You know, it's a sport that demands precision.

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But when we start getting in our own way with

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too many thoughts, too many things that we're thinking about

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and splitting our focus, good luck, it's just going to

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be a really really difficult round for you. I hate

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to say that.

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Speaker 3: And you work with a lot of amazing instructors, but

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you're partnering with them. It's not necessarily that you're getting

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instruction from them. You're trying to collaborate with them, right, Yeah,

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And that's what you're doing with your summits that you do.

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Seems like you've been doing them manually now for a

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couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this will be our upcoming one. This will

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be our fourth one. Yeah yeah, four or five.

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Speaker 3: I think we've I think we've covered each of them

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with you. Yeah, I'm not mistaken. And so let's talk

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about some of the people that you work with at

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these well, your upcoming one, your upcoming summit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, you know, I think it's fair to say,

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like the very first tim that we had was consistent

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golf summit, and the whole idea behind that was, you know, sadly,

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we talked about it a little bit. You know, unfortunately,

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mini golfers they go on YouTube, they're searching for information

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and it's not that it's bad. You know, they got

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something wrong in their swing, or maybe they don't have

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access to a coach. And unfortunately, I hear that a

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lot from golfers in our community. You know, they're in

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a place where maybe they do have some swing instructors,

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but they're not very good unfortunately. And you know that's

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the other reason why we have the summit is we

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want to not only educate golfers but you also want

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to educate instructors and help them get better. And so

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the idea behind the very first summit and the reason

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why there was such a big need for it is,

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you know, if you had God forbid something seriously wrong

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health wise. You know, you have a special disease, or

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you have something that you know, like cancer or tumor

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or whatever, my question to you it would be, are

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you going to go see a general practitioner or are

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you going to go see the best specialists in the

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world on that particular topic. I mean, it's a no brainer, right,

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you want to go to the very best. And so

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that was the idea behind the very first summit, and

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it's the idea behind every summit we've ever hosted, and

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especially the one that we're about to do, which is

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the Road to Tours Summit. You know, if you're going

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to go out there and search information, yeah, you can

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go on YouTube and you can go search for free,

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but then that is probably going to cost you more

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than the free information you just got. And see, that's

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the part of the quation most people aren't taken into account,

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is that you can honestly go out there and search

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your way out of this game, and sadly that's what

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mini golfers do. And I know that from research by

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the Proponent group. Lauren Anderson runs that group down in Florida,

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and it's kind of like a you know, who's who

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an instruction and the research that Lauren has you know,

475
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,759
published and you know, have found over the years. I'll

476
00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:32,240
never forget the one study that he found where yes,

477
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,799
we see, you know, over a million golfers typically you

478
00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:38,799
know National Golf Foundation. You know, it's no secret, and

479
00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:41,039
we talk about this in the book too, but they

480
00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:44,279
they said, you know, someone like a million to two

481
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:49,119
million golfers quit the game every year. Now, besides injury retirement,

482
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,240
you know, getting old being kind of like the number one,

483
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:56,400
but the next closest, the biggest reason why golfers are

484
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,640
quitting the game is because of frustration.

485
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 3: The word I was going to toss out frustration yep.

486
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: And a lot of that, unfortunately, is self inflicted. And

487
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:11,440
it's because of people going on YouTube searching for something

488
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,000
that they look at the symptom right, which is, hey,

489
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:18,519
I got a slice. Okay, I'm gonna go search YouTube

490
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:23,599
for how to fix a slice. But here's the downside

491
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,759
in this game. You have so many different body types,

492
00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:33,279
you have so many different types of setups, you have

493
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,920
different clubs and different shafts. So, I mean, there are

494
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,920
so many variables that are in play here that it

495
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,119
doesn't just come down to swing plane. There are other

496
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,920
factors that were not taken into account. And honestly, unless

497
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,640
you are a really really good coach or somebody that

498
00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:56,759
has actually learned under a really good coach, you know

499
00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:00,160
that's that's a big key. That you're educated on what

500
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:03,319
to look for and how to search for, it very

501
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:05,880
likely you're not going to get to the root of

502
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,039
the problem. And that's where the specialist comes in. And

503
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:11,440
that's kind of been the idea behind every Summer that

504
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,599
I've ever hosted, is I went and found the expert

505
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,119
in this particular you know, part of the game when

506
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,160
it comes to club fitting or nutrition, or the mental

507
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,480
part of the game or a full swing or short

508
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:25,640
game or putting. You know, we went out and found

509
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,200
those types, you know, like a Jane Seekman or Sean

510
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:34,000
Folly or a Goodness grat I mean, there's so many

511
00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:38,680
like doctor Kwan, I mean, Ralph Bauer, I mean, there's

512
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:41,160
so many types out there in different areas of the

513
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,720
game that it's like, Okay, here's the specialists, and here's

514
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:47,799
the information, and here's the questions that you need to

515
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,079
know in order for you to be successful in your game.

516
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,400
So that's been the idea behind every summer hosted and

517
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:54,200
one we got coming up as the road to the tour.

518
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,319
Speaker 3: It's so interesting that you said something that I had

519
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:09,559
just written down about the downside to YouTube is you'll

520
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:13,119
see something that resonates with you, but it's not personalized

521
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,440
to you. So you'll think, oh, well, I have this

522
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:17,279
lice and this guy's teaching me how to get rid

523
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:19,160
of a slice, and so I'm going to go out

524
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,480
and do that. And yet that's not really what.

525
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 4: The cause of the problem is, right, you know, maybe

526
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,960
you just have a bad grip and that's not being

527
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:32,640
discussed in any of the videos that you're looking at,

528
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:34,920
nor would you even consider that, Oh well, this is

529
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,799
the way I've always gripped it, so it's.

530
00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: Got to be fine. So the downside again of YouTube,

531
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,920
as prolific as it is, is it's not about you.

532
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,160
You make it about you right on that I mean,

533
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:55,160
is that kind of where we're going with this?

534
00:28:56,079 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's the idea, right, It's you can

535
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:04,599
quickly spot out the very good coaches, the one that is,

536
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:06,519
you know, are the ones that are sharing the really

537
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:08,799
good content and they're the ones that are kind of

538
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,799
educating you more on what to look for versus like,

539
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:16,319
here's a drill to fix it, and you've got to

540
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:19,720
get to the Y. And that's really really hard when

541
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:23,799
you're gonna take that one to many approach. And that's

542
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,119
that's why I like, it's so important to educate you

543
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,000
based on So I'm a big fan. Yeah, I've been

544
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:34,599
blessed to kind of learn the golf machine more ad

545
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,839
and so, like you know, you'll hear coaches and even

546
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,960
some of YouTube instructors will talk about P one, P two,

547
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,799
P three, P four, p five, and they're great positions.

548
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,720
That's all they stand for, you know. P one being

549
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,119
a draft. P two like chaft pro in the background,

550
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:53,640
I mean, and backswing, you know, just to keep it

551
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,240
really simple. P three being like we're left arms pro

552
00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:58,920
of the ground. And so you're looking at these positions

553
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:02,160
and it's a really easy way to kind of pinpoint

554
00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:04,960
figure out like where are you getting wrong? You know,

555
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,039
John Dougherty, who he partnered with and he's a phenomenal

556
00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:13,200
coach that nobody knows about yet, but in my opinion,

557
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,720
he's one of the best in the world. And it's

558
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:17,200
mainly because he spent so much time with Maco Grady.

559
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:20,200
And anybody that's worked assault and teaching a game have

560
00:30:20,359 --> 00:30:23,160
gotten their information one way or another from Maco Grady,

561
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:27,839
whether they're going to say it upfront or not. I can.

562
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,799
I can attest to that because I've had conversations with

563
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,000
the who's who in the instruction the world, and I

564
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,759
can tell you they have gotten their information and or

565
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:40,000
either indirectly or directly from Mac. Okay. In fact, funny,

566
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:44,000
funny side story, I'm not going to name names, but

567
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:46,480
like the who's who when they did a Golf Digest schools,

568
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:49,039
and I'm talking about the who's who. We're talking like

569
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:51,880
the top five top ten people that are currently right

570
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,400
now in Golf Digests. But back when they did the

571
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,039
Golf Digest schools in the late nineties, they had Mac

572
00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:02,440
come in and teach the teachers. Hopefully they went out

573
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,240
and did the school so it's pretty funny. But anyways,

574
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:08,880
so P. One, P. Two, P. Three, P. Four, You

575
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,720
know when you have somebody talk about those positions or

576
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:14,440
you educate them on what to look for. John is

577
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,880
always a big promoent proponent of you know, P one

578
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,319
to P two is probably one of the most important

579
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:22,519
you know, what do you want to call it? Sequencing

580
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,720
that you want to look for because a lot of

581
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,400
times what happens when a person takes caught back or

582
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,559
their grip type or how their tilts are working. You know,

583
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,720
you can fix a lot of issues between P one

584
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,119
and P two that affect the entire rest of the swing.

585
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,119
So like, for example, someone like over rotates and goes

586
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:41,599
way inside from P one to P two in the backswing,

587
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,240
you know, you can get yourself in a lot of

588
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,440
trouble going up to the top of the swing at

589
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,880
P four and then when you start down P five,

590
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,319
which is you know, someone getting very steep and coming

591
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:54,599
over the top or whatever. But it all started at

592
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:57,279
from address to the backswing and the very early part

593
00:31:57,279 --> 00:31:59,599
of P one to P two. So you know, that's

594
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,519
what I mean about, Like you want to have a

595
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:06,440
foundation or a system, which is what mac has done

596
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,839
when he created a P one system. I mean the

597
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,240
P system like P one to P nine basically that's

598
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:16,519
what we call it. But what's fascinating is that when

599
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,319
when you have something like that, you know what to

600
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:22,960
look for it and it's easier to diagnose the faults

601
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:25,880
and then get to the root of it. But when

602
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,920
you go straight into hey do this, drill, do this

603
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:32,200
without explaining the why, that's where it gets dangerous.

604
00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: M interesting. So the summit that you've got coming up

605
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,839
this year, it's interesting because again this is talking. You're

606
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:49,599
addressing golfers that want to be serious about playing winning golf,

607
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,200
not just playing golf, not just going out there and

608
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,480
having I mean not just going out there and having fun.

609
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:59,480
But when you're playing good golf, it's a lot more

610
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:04,000
fun when you're playing bad golf. But still, no matter

611
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:06,119
what level you're at, there's going to be days that

612
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,319
you're going, I was not good today, I shot at

613
00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:12,200
seventy three, you know, and then there's guys who were like,

614
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:14,440
I was not good today. I shot one hundred and six.

615
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,480
But you're you want to talk, you want to address

616
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:22,359
those folks that are serious about competing, and you've got

617
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:24,599
this summit coming up this year that's going to be

618
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:28,720
it's well, just let's start name dropping here. Who do

619
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:31,240
you have and how is this what you do for

620
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:34,519
the years you spend your time developing the next summit?

621
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,400
Are you teaching these days?

622
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,359
Speaker 2: You know, it kind of seems like in this particular one,

623
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,000
I mean this has been in the works for probably

624
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:44,359
the last five months, so I mean I spent a

625
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,640
lot of time put into this and you know, bringing

626
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,680
in these type of people and experts and influencers and

627
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,039
all that and set this event. So yes, I mean

628
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:56,200
the majority of my time is still spent where coaching

629
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,640
clients all around the world because, like I said, you know,

630
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,319
a big part of what we do on a day

631
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,200
and day out basis as the mental side of the game,

632
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:04,400
which is, you know, teaching people how to get into

633
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,559
flow state more often because that's where you're going to win.

634
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,039
That's where you're going to play your best golf. Regardless

635
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:10,679
of what level you're at, even if you're a guy

636
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,840
that shoots in the nineties hundreds, if you can think

637
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,280
better and you know, get to a place where we

638
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,880
call cavem in golf, you're going to lowder scores. Like

639
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,400
that's just the fact. And that also applies to a

640
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,199
player like a really good player that's on tour, you know,

641
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,159
if you can remove the distractions and get to the

642
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:31,400
point where pressure doesn't necessarily bother you as much or

643
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:37,960
you know, it's not that you'll ever remove pressure. It's

644
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,760
okay to be nervous, it's okay to you know, fill

645
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,480
that kind of energy. But it's how you respond is key.

646
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,199
And that's that's what we've really helped a lot of

647
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,440
players do, is how we respond to that type of environment.

648
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:54,079
You know, And although the summit is road to the

649
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:57,000
tour Summit, we know there's gonna be a lot of

650
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,559
people that are attending us that are your everyday golfer

651
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:02,119
at once win a club championship, or maybe he just

652
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:05,360
wants to be the best player in their foursome, or

653
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:07,719
you know, it's a college player or maybe even up

654
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,079
and coming junior golfer that wants to play golf in college.

655
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,199
And then you know you're playing in college. I mean,

656
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,960
how do you win your first college tour event? I

657
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,480
mean a college event or you know, after college, what

658
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,400
does it look like to turn pro? And if I'm

659
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,039
going to turn pro and I'm going to make this

660
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:24,639
my pursuit, you know what's the fastest path. Well, that's

661
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:28,119
your answer with the summit is we have literally I

662
00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:29,960
guess you could say we pioneered it because I haven't

663
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,440
seen anything else out there in the last five years.

664
00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:35,440
Last time you hosted this, the very first one was

665
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,559
I think twenty twenty one, and it was the very

666
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,960
first ever summit that was designed around what does it

667
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,320
take to get to a top ten world ranking? And

668
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,960
so that's what we've done with the Road to the

669
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,920
Tour summits, and that's what this one is all about.

670
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,119
We're bringing in the who's who to show you the

671
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:52,880
fastest path to get to the top level in the game.

672
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,119
And that's for the PGA Tour and the LPGA.

673
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: Tour Amazing, amazing and the the people that you bring in,

674
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,320
you're not just talking about swing mechanics. You've got them

675
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,880
covering all different topics. Absolutely a month a month of

676
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,800
golf smurters, like just going all over the place with

677
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,079
a lot of different experts sharing their wisdom and instruction.

678
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,559
Is this a hands on or an online course?

679
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: No, so this is this is a live online summit

680
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,800
LB two days on the eighteenth and nineteenth of November,

681
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:37,840
and you know, we we have brought in PGA Tour

682
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:41,559
LPGA Tour and a dp World Tour. So we had

683
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,920
Justin Barget from PJ Tour to share his insight, you know,

684
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,760
what does it look like in all the different paths

685
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,480
to get to the PGA Tour. We also had Jody Brothers,

686
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:56,480
who is Chief business Officer of the LPGA Tour and

687
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,039
also the head of the Epsent Tour, which is the

688
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:02,920
development tour for LPGA Tour. So he gives all of

689
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,599
his insight and shares the multiple paths for someone to

690
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:12,360
get to the LPGA Tour. But he also has given

691
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:17,960
and is giving some amazing insight to get the attention

692
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:26,239
of a potential sponsor invite. And that is fascinating because

693
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,639
what he has and what he's going to share is

694
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,639
amazing when it comes to getting your name recognized or

695
00:37:33,679 --> 00:37:36,239
putting yourself to the front of the stack. You know,

696
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,840
these tournament directors, they're getting like fifty sixty seventy applicants

697
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,079
on you know, trying to get a sponsor invite into

698
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:47,199
a tour event. And what Jodie is going to share

699
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:50,920
is one of the fastest ways to actually secure a

700
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:57,320
tournament sponsored invite and that's super important. So that's gonna

701
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,119
be a good one. And then we had Stuart Cage

702
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:01,559
of DP World Tour, which is known as you know,

703
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,280
formerly as a European tour, and he shares some amazing

704
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,360
stuff and we'll share some incredible stuff. One, you know,

705
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,159
how to increase your chances of qualifying through you know,

706
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,159
Q school and stuff like that. So we got those guys,

707
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,360
and then of course.

708
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: And then well, well let's there's a long list of

709
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:20,679
names and we'll get to more of those, but we'll

710
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:28,920
come back and we'll do that in a minute. You

711
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,360
mentioned that the summit is just coming up in a

712
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,440
couple of days of when we're publishing this show. It's

713
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,559
November eighteenth through the nineteenth. It's a two day online summit.

714
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,760
So that means if somebody is like fascinated and wants

715
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:51,079
to pursue this, but the date has already passed, is

716
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:54,039
it still available on demand? Can you still get access

717
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:56,000
to all this amazing information?

718
00:38:56,599 --> 00:38:57,199
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

719
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,039
Speaker 3: Oh good? But but oh but there's a butt.

720
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 2: But this is going to be good for your listeners

721
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,280
because you know what this means, Fred that when you

722
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,840
publish something and when they come out with an episode,

723
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,760
they definitely don't want the what they call it they

724
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,360
call it FOMO fear missing out.

725
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: Oh I know what means.

726
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 2: This means that they need to watch your content as

727
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,079
soon as possible, soon as it comes out. Because if

728
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,840
you are listening to this right now, good for you,

729
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,440
because if you want to attend the rot To Tour Summit,

730
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:33,239
I'm going to actually show you there's a way that

731
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,719
you can attend this for free and watch the entire

732
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,920
event for free. And you'll know when you go to

733
00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:44,360
the to the page and go through Fred's link, which

734
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,599
will be slash Golf Smarter, and you definitely want to

735
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:50,880
check that out because the information that's gonna be shared

736
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,199
on this summit, honestly, God, you know, we could charge

737
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,360
one thousand plus for this, and in fact, there will

738
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,440
be many PGA and there's gonna be a lot of

739
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,400
Jay instructors that are going to go through this for

740
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,119
the MSR credits, but a lot of them will also

741
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,679
attest and say that yes, I could have charged you know,

742
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:11,360
a thousand plus for this event just for the information

743
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,320
and who's on it, what they're going to be sharing,

744
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:15,840
and even let's put it this way, if you're a

745
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,400
person that is like a tour player and this information

746
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:23,480
secures your tour card. What does that worth? Do you? Well,

747
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,880
I can tell you right now that could be worth

748
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,519
millions of dollars. So to be able to attend this

749
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,639
for free for two days pretty fascinating. But if you are,

750
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,599
by chance.

751
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: Stop teasing, how do you do that?

752
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: You go to the page, you'll find out.

753
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: All right, So the link will be in our show notes.

754
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: It will be. But even if even if you're listening

755
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,239
to this after November eighteenth, nineteenth, it's totally fine. We're

756
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,320
still going to show you twenty four yep. For we're

757
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,159
going to show you how to still go to the

758
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:55,360
link and you'll still be able to watch and see

759
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,159
the recordings and we'll show you how to do that.

760
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: Great, great, great great. Okay, let's keep talking about some

761
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:03,320
of the people that you're going to have there, because

762
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,039
make it worth it. Let's let's go down the list

763
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:12,199
of people that you're going to be showcasing in your summit.

764
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:17,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like day one, obviously we got the PGA Torial,

765
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:19,840
PGA Tour and dp World Tour, but we also have

766
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,880
Mark Emmlman and you know Mark Snellan as a longtime broadcaster,

767
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:28,960
brother of Trevor Limiman. And you know, Mark's a player himself,

768
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,199
but he's also a great coach and he's been out

769
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,559
there inside the roads for many years, and so he's

770
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,039
got to see the who's who in the game. And

771
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:40,960
what he's going to be sharing in that particular recording

772
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,039
session with me is going to be fascinating because he's

773
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:48,079
going to show you what it takes to get to

774
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:51,719
that level, but not only that, what you need to

775
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,280
do in order to stay out there. See, this is

776
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,199
where a lot of players get wrong. They can make

777
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,679
it on tour, they get their tour card, but how

778
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,440
many times that we heard people lose their card within

779
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,559
the year of actually obtaining it, and then we don't

780
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:08,199
see them again. And so you want to watch Mark's

781
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,679
episode because he's going to share some incredible stuff that's

782
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,559
going to actually show you how to stay out there

783
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:13,960
on door.

784
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,199
Speaker 3: And let me ask you this about about these presentations.

785
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:21,199
Is this like a PowerPoint presentation that they're doing or

786
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:26,199
are you interviewing these people? And I'm guessing it's all video.

787
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:28,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be video, And that's what's unique

788
00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:33,719
about it. You know, sometimes unlike you you know, most podcasters,

789
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,800
they basically just record it and it's only audio, right,

790
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,079
whereas this is going to be video and audio, and

791
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:42,760
so people will be able to watch this. It's going

792
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,639
to be live, and it's gonna be a live summit.

793
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,039
Speaker 3: On and each person's doing their own presentation and it's

794
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:49,000
like a PowerPoint thing.

795
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,559
Speaker 2: Not necessarily a power point A lot of them is

796
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:53,719
going to be like an interview style where we're going

797
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,079
to be asking them questions and just getting information and.

798
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: You're going to be doing that interview yeah, okay, okay.

799
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so someone might use a PowerPoint, they might

800
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:07,159
go into presenting style, but in the case of market

801
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:09,239
it's probably going to be sinces. His style all the

802
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,400
time is podcasting like yourself. He's probably gonna be more

803
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,360
comfortable to just sharing his information freely, right. So that's

804
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,239
that's the first one, or that's one of the ones.

805
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,159
On day one, we also got Pete Callen. Pe Callen

806
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,000
is probably the best coach that nobody knows about. It's

807
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,960
funny there's a Golf Digest article written about him with

808
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:30,880
that title, But Pete is somebody that you should know

809
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,920
about because, honestly, in my opinion, he's probably top three

810
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,559
in the world just in terms of his wisdom and

811
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:39,920
who he's worked with. I mean Roy mcroy's part of it.

812
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,559
You know, the students he's worked with, Ian Matt's, Fitzpatrick,

813
00:43:43,639 --> 00:43:47,320
I think Lee Westwood, a lot of European stars, right

814
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,599
and just to him and who he's worked with, he's

815
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:54,960
credited for helping players win over two hundred and fifty

816
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,440
times worldwide and then eight majors. The guy's got a

817
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,840
ton of wisdom and so his is someone I'm super

818
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,800
excited about because wisdom that's gonna be shared on that

819
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:09,679
is gonna be amazing. He doesn't really do a whole

820
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:11,960
lot of interviews or you know, a lot of like

821
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:15,079
freely sharing his information out there, So to get him

822
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,639
on the summit, I'm pretty pumped about. So he'll be

823
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:20,639
another one. We also got Parker McLachlan. He will also

824
00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:23,440
be on Day one. That's a short game chef. He's

825
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,119
also a PGA Tour winner and he's gone through Q

826
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,079
School twice. And he's the one that I'm really excited

827
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:33,239
about because this guy has successfully gone through Q School twice.

828
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:37,039
Not many people can really say that, and so again

829
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:39,920
he's gonna have a lot of wisdom to share, like

830
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:42,679
how to successfully go through Q School because everybody knows

831
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,960
Q school is like the most intense pressure, right There's

832
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,400
so much on the line, and for him to go

833
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,280
through it and successfully qualify twice, it's gonna be pretty

834
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,199
interesting to get his wisdom. But his segment is also

835
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,880
gonna be a lot on short game. He's a phenomenal

836
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,920
wadge player and he's one of the best out there

837
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,760
to ever do it, and so he's going to share

838
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,079
some really incredible insight on how to become a better

839
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:08,800
wedge player, better person around the green, also in putting.

840
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:13,119
And then we also have Scott Fawcett Ando. Scott's been

841
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,559
on your show, and what better guy you know to

842
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:19,280
cover strategy right.

843
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: What decade decade golf?

844
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: That's amazing. You know, he and I have developed a

845
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,480
really good friendship over the years, and he's been pretty

846
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:29,719
much I think, every summing I've done, and I mean,

847
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,239
why not, because the guy is just so brilliant when

848
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,559
it comes to just making better decisions and anybody is

849
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:38,079
going to get better if you apply any of his stuff,

850
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:40,480
so his is always going to be good. And then

851
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,840
Shannon and I will also be on day one and

852
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,000
we're going to share, you know, a lot on the

853
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,159
mental side of game. And so that will include day

854
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:51,880
one as far as the speakers for day one, but

855
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,760
you know, it gets really good on day two. Get

856
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,280
some incredible people on day two.

857
00:45:58,119 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 3: Go ahead, come on.

858
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 2: So one of the headliners is going to be Ted Scott.

859
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,599
So it's no secret in the incredible year that Scotty

860
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:09,719
Shuffler had this past year in twenty twenty four. But

861
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,199
in my opinion, I really believe Ted is a big

862
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,480
reason behind it. And here's why I know that we

863
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:18,800
all got to see what happened at the PGA Championship

864
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,360
earlier this year. Right Scotty gets arrested, goes to jail,

865
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:27,800
He's probably only like one or two people that could

866
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:33,960
go through that type of you know, firstands right adversity

867
00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:36,559
and still come out and shoot, man, what do you shoot?

868
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 3: That day?

869
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,199
Speaker 2: It was like four or five under or something like

870
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:43,760
that on that Friday or whatever it was. And what's

871
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,880
interesting is the next day, and this has been planned,

872
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,840
Ted was supposed to, you know, go home to his

873
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,920
daughter's graduation or something like that in high school that

874
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,440
he had already planned that he was going to be away.

875
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,639
And then we see Scotty on day three, moving day

876
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:02,400
and he really struggles with the fill in caddy. And

877
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,519
so my opinion is Ted is a big part of

878
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:09,320
like keeping him grounded. And Ted also believes like Scotty,

879
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:11,880
you know, he believes in God and so he's he's

880
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:15,280
and there's been articles and stuff like that written on

881
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,440
their relationship and everything else. But I really believe that

882
00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:21,079
Ted is a major part of why he's done so well.

883
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,320
And you know, the fascinating thing is Ted's got a

884
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,320
ton of wisdom just in terms of caddy in So

885
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,679
I brought Ted in because I want Ted to share

886
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,480
on his experience as a caddy and what players need

887
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,599
to look for when it comes to hiring their own caddy,

888
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,559
because that's important. That's a team and a lot of times,

889
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,280
you know, players come out of college and they don't

890
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,519
give a lot of thought. And I remember Mark Fulcher,

891
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:45,760
justin Roses caddy I had on the very first summit.

892
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:49,320
I mean, he covered a lot of red flags when

893
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,599
it comes to choosing the right caddy and stuff like that.

894
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,840
And you don't have that luxury if you earn your

895
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,920
torque card and you choose a bad caddy and you're

896
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,760
not gelling and you waste you five, six, eight events

897
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:04,320
and you're not making a cut. That's gonna cost you

898
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,639
a lot of money and that's gonna put you behind

899
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:09,639
a ball. So that's another person that we brought in

900
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:11,840
for Day two. We also brought in one of our

901
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,920
tour players, Savannah a Lobby, and she's been amazing at

902
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:22,400
just being able to showcase herself like through Instagram and

903
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,559
making herself attractive to sponsors. So her information and her

904
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:31,760
wisdom and just showing players on how to attract sponsorships

905
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:34,480
is a big deal because when you're a college player

906
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:37,920
and you're coming out, you need to go ahead and

907
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:40,840
get the ball rolling on the social media side of

908
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,119
things so that you can make yourself attractive to a

909
00:48:43,159 --> 00:48:47,079
potential sponsor. And she has done an amazing job of

910
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:50,480
that from a grassroots level, so to speak. And so

911
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:52,599
she'll share her wisdom on how to do that and

912
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,199
that's gonna be very valuable. And then we also got

913
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:57,480
people like Ralph Bauer of Tour Read. You know, I

914
00:48:57,519 --> 00:48:59,239
know a lot of times I was one of the

915
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,880
first ones be so to find an aame point at

916
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,440
the very beginning with David Orr. But you know, a

917
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,719
lot of times I hear the complaint that when people

918
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,960
struggle with reading greens and they've gone through ain point,

919
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:11,280
it's like they can't really feel the percentage of their

920
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,800
feet and stuff like that. Well, Tour Read is incredible

921
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,239
because it's an app on your phone that you can

922
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,320
literally just go out there and place on the green

923
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:22,320
and see what the percentage is and you just continue

924
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,360
to work through that to verify what your reads are.

925
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,000
And so it's a really good alternate to someone to

926
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,159
maybe struggle with a point. So I brought in Ralph

927
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:33,559
to share his expertise on that. So that's going to

928
00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:37,599
cover the putting green reading side of things. And you know,

929
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:39,880
we got a few more like John Dockerty who's going

930
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,320
to cover full swing. And you know somebody that, in

931
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,400
my opinion, is probably the most underrated in the swing

932
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,320
space because of his time spent as Maco Grady's right

933
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,360
hand man for many years when Mac did a lot

934
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,320
of these golf schools. So a lot of wisdom, a

935
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,000
lot of information, but it's all geared toward helping people

936
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,800
get to that next level in the game, yep, yep.

937
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 3: And how long per day is each summit day? So

938
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:10,440
it sounds like a commitment to.

939
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 2: An extent, right, you know, I believe we're looking at

940
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,960
somewhere between three and a half to four and a

941
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,559
half hours each day.

942
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so make make that your plan for golf

943
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:21,920
that weekend.

944
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: You need to, right, No, no, no excuse Right, We're

945
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,559
going to be a November golf for you know, basically

946
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:33,760
North Carolina and above right, you know it's getting colder,

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so what better way to maybe take some cold days

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and immerse yourself into an event like this, The better

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your game for the off season.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, Road to the Tour Summit and it's going

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to be at Road to the toour Goolfsummit dot com.

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You got it, and there is a lot more information.

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There's a link in the today's show notes. Just use

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that and it'll take you there and get you. Well,

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you kept talking about you can do it for free

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if you go through this. I'm not sure what that means,

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but you can figure it out for yourself. Well, it's

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great to talk to you, man. It's always interesting what

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you're putting together, and I love having these conversations. Thanks

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so much. We'll coming back.

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Speaker 1: Thanks you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pleasure. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Again. I'll leave a link in the show notes so

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that you can get access to the live event but

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also the on demand replay as well. You go to

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road to the Tour Golf Summit dot com slash golf Smarter,

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and that two in there is the number two road

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number two the Tour Golfsummit dot com slash Golf Smarter.

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I absolutely want to thank this week's Golf Smarter Ambassador,

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Francine Valley from West Vancouver, British Columbia, for opening today's episode,

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but I also want to make sure that franccene thinks

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seriously about getting out of Canadian winner by joining us

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for our next Golf Smarter adventure the weekend of March

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twenty six through the thirtieth, twenty twenty five to the

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iconic Robert Trent Jones Trail just outside of Birmingham, Alabama.

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We'll be staying at just one beautiful resort and spat

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the entire weekend, but we're playing three different courses along

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the trail. The ground transportation is included, and we'll have

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dinners together to a group podcast recording, share stories, have

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a lot of laughs, but most of all get to

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check off three beautiful courses Oxmore Valley Ridge Course, then

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ross Bridge and finish with Oxmore Valley Valley Course. Reserve

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your spot now to make sure your name is on

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our short list of three foursomes and get all the

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details about the trip at tmi goolf dot com slash

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golf Smarter Again. Our adventure starts as we arrive on Wednesday,

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March twenty six, twenty twenty five. Then we'll play eighteen

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on Thursday, eighteen on Friday and Saturday one more round

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before getting back to the airport on Sunday. Now, if

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you'd like to make a full week and play more

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down on the trail, that's not going to be a

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problem because Tara and alanover at tmi goolf dot com

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we'll work with you. There are so many longtime listeners

994
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who've become email buddies that I really want to finally

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get a chance to play with. And of course if

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you're a golf Smarter ambassador, then we have to finally

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meet in person again. Tmi goolf dot com slash golf

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Smarter want to remind you one more time to leave

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It really is the best way for people to discover

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available to our golf Smarter ambassadors. If you have any

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questions comments, want to open a future episode with where

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