Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. Look, I don't think it's any shock to
anybody at this point that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein
were buddies and that they spent a lot of time
together back in the day. That has all been well documented.
And in a new article from the New York Times,
they're talking about that relationship once again. And look, it
doesn't make Donald Trump guilty, right, we have to make
sure we're clear about that doesn't make him guilty of
being involved in the crimes until we have evidence of that.
If we ever have evidence of that, we can't run
around and make things up. But for me, it's the
enabling and of course that's not criminal at least not
that we know of, unless there was something else going
on behind the scenes, you know, money laundering, whatever. But
what it is is morally despicable and it makes things
so much worse for Donald Trump that he's the president,
he knows he's in these files, and he did everything
in his power to keep the information from the American public.
And of course the reasoning is, well, there's national security
interests on the line, there's an ongoing investigation, but do
you really believe that if say it was flipped around
and Obama was with Jeffrey Epstein all the time, Trump
would have released the files on day one. Of course
he would have. That's the kind of guy he is, right,
The guy is petty and he holds a grudge, There's
no doubt about it. But the fact is it was
Donald Trump himself who was spending all this time with Epstein,
and it was documented in pictures, it was documented at events.
There's no running from that, and anybody who tries to
deny it or downplay it is really just digging the
hole deeper. You have to confront that kind of shit
head on right, yep, this is a fact. They hung out,
there were friends. What else happened? And that's where Trump
really stepped in it. Everybody knew that they were friendly,
but now that we're getting documented proof that that friendship
went deeper, that leads to more sinister questions. What did
he know? When did he know it? And was he
ever around when anyone was being abused? And Donald Trump
himself could have cleared all of this up by just
releasing the files right away and speaking to the American
public directly, Hey, look me and this dude were friends.
Not exactly the greatest moment of my life, but I
was never around when there was any abuse going on.
Here's the proof. That's what a man with integrity and
nothing to hide does. But what did Donald Trump do?
He retreated right back to the bunker, and not only that,
he set fire to the battlefield before he left, calling
people traders, calling people stupid whatever. Meanwhile, the only one
who looks stupid is Donald Trump and the people still
defending him over this shit. And I'm certainly not somebody
with Trump derangement syndrome. I don't think about the dude
enough to even care that much, because at the end
of the day, I understand that the president, Donald Trump
or anybody else is just a symptom of a much
bigger problem. So I don't spend all my time worrying
about this dude. He's going to be gone soon. There'll
be a new election and a new jerk off will
take over. But we're not going to run from the
fact that Donald Trump's the president right now and he's
overseeing what I think is a gigantic cover up. So
in this episode, we're going to talk a little bit
more about the relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump,
as told by The New York Times and the headline
Don's best Friend. How Epstein and Trump bonded over the
pursuit of women. This article was authored by Nicholas Confessor
and Julie Tait. Jeffrey Epstein was a terrific guy and
a lot of fun to be with. He and Donald J.
Trump also had no formal relationship. They went to a
lot of the same parties, but they didn't socialize together.
They were never really friends, just business acquaintances, or there
was no relationship at all. I was not a fan
of his. That's all I can tell you. Those are
some of the things that Donald Trump has said about
his obvious relationship with Epstein. And look again, I'm not
gonna sit here and tell you that there's a bunch
of criminality here that I can point to. But that's
not the issue at hand, at least it's not when
it comes to Donald Trump. It's the lie upon lie
that he's told and how those lies have compounded and
turned into a cover up. For nearly a quarter century,
mister Trump and his representatives have offered shifting, often contradictory
accounts of his relationship with mister Epstein, once sporadically captured
by society photographers and in newsclips before they fell out
sometime in the mid two thousands, closely scrutinized. Since mister
Epstein died in a Manhattan Jael cell during mister Trump's
first term, there are friendship in questions about what the
president knew of mister Epstein's abuses now threatens to consume
his second one. Yeah, look, there's no doubt about it.
People can say whatever they want about the falling numbers
of Donald Trump, but if you don't think that this
played a gigantic part, you're crazy. And that's because a
lot of the independents who supported Trump are abandoning ship.
One of the main issues for independent voters was this
issue specifically, and Donald Trump obviously has failed the test.
The controversy has shaken mister Trump's iron hold on his
base like no other. Loyal supporters have demanded to know
why the administration has not moved more quickly to on
earth the convicted sex offenders remaining secrets. In November, after
resisting months of pressure to release more Epstein related documents
held by the federal government and Facing an almost unheard
of revolt among Republican lawmakers, mister Trump reversed himself, signing
legislation that requires their release beginning this week. And we
all know that we had to drag him there, kicking
and screaming. He didn't want to do it on his own.
In fact, he didn't do it on his own. If
it wasn't for the discharge petition, they'd still be dogwalking
this shit. Believe me, that was always the plan, dog
walk this as long as possible. Mister Epstein had a
talent for acquiring powerful friends, some of whom have become
ensnared in the continuing scrutiny of his crimes for months.
Mister Trump is labored furiously to shift himself out of
the frame, dismissing questions about his relationationship with mister Epstein
as a Democrat hoax and imploring his supporters to ignore
the matter entirely, Like who does that? What kind of
scoundrel tells people to ignore Jeffrey Epstein unless, of course,
you're scared of something come into the surface. And to
my opinion, there's a whole lot of fear of being
shown by a whole lot of people an examination of
their history by The New York Times has found no
evidence implicating mister Trump in mister Epstein's abuse and trafficking
of miners. Just like I've been telling you, we don't
have that evidence. Now, I'm not saying it doesn't exist,
but what I'm saying is that we've never seen it.
There's no public documentation of anything like that occurring. But
that's what they want you to focus on. I'm not
going to focus on what they want. I'm going to
focus on the fact that this is a cover up,
and the fact that this was being covered up at all,
for any instance, for any reason, is a gigantic crime
in itself. So that's what needs to be focused on.
And I've told you a million times, don't go after
the shiny object, don't go after you know al Capone's
murder spree. Go after his tax records. That's how you're
going to get him. And the same goes for this situation.
If we want true accountability, we have to be willing
to kick in every single door. But the two men's
relationship was both far closer and far more complex than
the President now admits. Beginning in the late nineteen eighties,
the two men forged the bond intense enough to leave
others who knew them with the impression that they were
each other as close as friends. The Times found mister
Epstein was then a little known financier who cultivated mystery
around the scope and source of his self made wealth.
Mister Trump, six years older, was a real estate scion
who relished publicity and exaggerated his successes. Neither man drank
or did drugs. They pursued women in a game of
ego and dominance. Female bodies were the currency. And if
we're being honest, that whole entire era was filled with
a bunch of degenerates, a whole bunch of hedonistic degenerates,
especially in the financial sector. So there's no doubt that
there was a bunch of debauchery taking place, and I
have no doubt that Donald Trump was smack in the
middle of it. Over nearly two decades, as mister Trump
cut a swathe through the party circuits of New York
and Florida, mister Epstein was perhaps his most reliable wingman.
During the nineties and early two thousands, they prowled mister
Epstein's Manhattan mansion and mister Trump's Plaza Hotel, at least
one of Trump's Atlantic City casinos, and both of their
Palm Beach homes. They visited each other's offices and spoke
often by phone, according to other former Epstein employees and
women who spent time in his homes and look, Maria
Farmer told us all about it, about the relationship between
Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, and she said the same thing.
She didn't see anything that was criminal at the time,
but there's no doubt that the nexus and that relationship existed,
and the fact that people still want to deny it's
baffle to me. With other men, mister Apstein might discuss tax, shelters,
international affairs, or neuroscience. With mister Trump, he talked about sex.
I just think it was, you know, trophy hunting. Stacy Williams,
who rose to fame as a star of the Sports
Illustrated Swimsuit edition during the nineties, set in an interview
with The Times. In social media posts and interviews with
news outlets in recent years, miss Williams has described how
Trump groped her in nineteen ninety three at Trump Tower
while mister Apstein, whom she was then dating, watched. I
think Jeffrey liked that he had the sports illustrated model
who had this name, and that Trump was pursuing me.
She said. Mister Trump has denied her account. Of course
he has. Has he ever admitted anything to shed light
on their friendship. The Times interviewed more than thirty former
Epstein employees, victims of his abuse, and others who crossed
paths with the two men over the years. The Times
also obtained new documents that illuminate their relationship, and scoured
core documents and other public records. Many of the people
interviewed by The Times asked to share their stories anonymously,
saying they feared for their safety at the hands of
supporters of mister Trump, a president who has deployed the
might of the federal government to target and punish his
political opponents. And we've seen it time and time again.
Donald Trump has no problem going after people, and I
wouldn't have any doubt of him going after the survivors
if it served as purpose. I mean, hell, even myself.
I'm making sure that all my shit's on the up
and up, my tax returns are right. Everything. The last
thing you want to do is give somebody like Donald
Trump and the federal government any inroads to give you
a colonoscopy. Some Epstein victims have already received death threats
for demanding a full accounting of the government's investigation, according
to a statement released by more than two dozen of
them last month. Yo, let me just go on the record.
If you're threatening survivors, you're a bitch assma, You are
a straight up coward, a clown, and your parents should
be slapped in the face for birthing you. Who attacks survivors?
Bro in what defense of Donald Trump's bitch ass who
doesn't care about you one single bit, who's ready to
send your kids off to war in Venezuela. Oh yeah,
that's the guy that you should be going crazy over.
That's the guy you should be threatening people for. And
if that's you, my advice is this, wake the fuck
up before you get woke up. Over the years, mister
Epstein or his partner Glenn Maxwell, introduced at least six
women who have accused them of grooming or abuse to
mister Trump. According to interviews, core testimony, and other records.
One was a miner at the time. None of accused
mister Trump himself of inappropriate behavior, and it's important to
point that out. I think it's very important to point
that out. People are getting way ahead of themselves saying
Trump was part of the actual trafficking, etc. You gotta
be careful because what you do is you give the
other side, the side of the babler's the side of
the protector's ammunition. Oh look, it's all about Trump. It's
all about this, all about that. Now. I'm not saying
to shy away from actual evidence, lean into that shit,
but shy away from the nonsense. Shy away from the
things that are going to hurt the overall investigation, because
at the end of the day, none of that stuff
even matters. Do you think the survivors care about that? Bs,
What do you think they care about this? Moving forward
and full transparency. One of the women, who has never
spoken publicly about the experience, told The Times that mister
Epstein had coerced her into attending four parties at mister
Epstein's home. Mister Trump attended all four, the woman said.
At two of them, she said, mister Epstein directed her
to have sex with other male guests. So, according to
that woman's account, Donald Trump was at this house when
she was being trafficked. To other people. Now, is that
a crime, I don't know. Certainly a gray area, certainly
not the kind of place that you want to find
the president inhabiting, and certainly not morally acceptable, no matter
how you chop it. In an email among those released
by Congress in November, mister Epstein boasted that he gave
mister Trump a twenty year old woman whom mister Epstein
dated in the nineties. During a flight together in the
early nineteen nineties, mister Trump came on to another Epstein
employee traveling with them, telling her that he could have
anyone he wanted. According to a different Epstein worker who
learned of the incident, a separate Epstein employee from the
era recalled that mister Trump would occasionally send over modeling
cards for mister Epstein to peruse, like a menu. And
there's a lot of people that have cooperated that. We've
heard that from many, many sources. It's not just the
New York Times that's blowing that out of the water.
We've heard that previously. Mister Epstein, who claimed he required
orgasms three times a day, exploited or abused hundreds of
women and girls before dying in what was ruled a
suicide thousands. You would think that all this investigation that
The New York Times did, they know the truth thousands
of women And that's not hyperbole. I'm talking about globally, right,
not just America. I'm talking about South America, Central America, Europe, Asia,
and wherever the fuck else this egg dict Wirdo ended
up going. If you think this dude wasn't abusing people
everywhere he went, you're crazy. Mister Trump does not stand
accused of sexually abusing a minor, but over the course
of his friendship with mister Epstein and beyond, he left
a trail of alleged abuse and assault, many details of
which began to surface publicly during his successful twenty sixteen
presidential run. Close to twenty women have publicly accused mister
Trump of groping, forcibly kissing, or sexually assaulting them, behavior
that he once bragged he could get away with because
of his celebrity, but later denied ever engaging in. In
twenty twenty three, the writer E. Gene Carroll one of
five million dollars civil judgment against mister Trump for sexual
abuse and defamation. So look, those are the facts, right,
You can dispute the case. You can dispute what the
jury or judge found, but that's on the record, man.
And all these other accounts. We have to understand that
there is an environment, a political environment, and you have
to be very cautious about what you're accepting and what
you're not accepting. But to think that there wasn't any
evidence whatsoever from any of those women, that's just not true. Now.
Of course, that doesn't make Donald Trump guilty of the
kind of crimes Epstein was involved in, but it certainly
makes him a fellow traveler. In response to a detailed
list of questions from the Times, the White House Press
Secretary Carolyn Levitt issued a statement, this fake news story,
which is not worth the paper that it's printed on,
is just another stale regurgitation of decades old false allegations
against President Trump. The truth will remain the same no
matter how many times The New York Times tries to
change it. President Trump did nothing wrong, and he kick
Jeffrey Epstein out of mar A Lago for being a creep. Well, yeah,
but not until you let Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell
recruit Virginia to go and be abused let's not forget
that part, Carolyn Levitt. And again, this is where people
are missing the boat. Quit focusing on what Epstein and
Trump might have been doing together. We don't have the
evidence of that. You know, we have evidence of a
fucking cover up. Focus on that. And it's no different
than during that whole Russiagate nonsense. I told everybody, if
you really wanted to find something of substance, you need
to go after the concrete companies that Trump was in
business with at the time, and that's because they were
all run by the mafia. But instead everybody wanted to
chase salacious bullshit, you know, the pe on the bed story,
the salacious stuff that you can't prove. And I think
a lot of people are falling into that same trap
here because there is obviously a cover up under away,
and I think that if we continue to focus on that,
it's going to become apparent to anybody who's paying attention
that that's exactly what's going on. And I think that
if people want to see real change here, they want
to see real action, they want to see people held accountable,
will focus on the cover up. It's unclear what new
information may emerge under the new law passed by Congress.
The statute allows the Trump administration to withhold records that
identify victims, including images of child sexual abuse, or documents
that are otherwise classified. His appointees can also hold back
records that could jeopardize an active federal investigation, such as
a new inquiry ordered by mister Trump into Democrats associated
with mister Epstein. In a statement in late November, a
group of Epstein accusers wrote, other than redacting victim names,
we want the files disclosed, and I've heard that directly
from survivors themselves. That's what they want. They want complete
transparency here. They want the files to be released, and
they want accountability. Is that too much to ask, especially
after you've been abused and discarded the way these women
have been for all these years. They're just asking for
a fair shake, And if any anybody's ever deserved a
little bit of fairness, it's these women. Mister Trump is
denied knowing of mister Epstein's abuse of underage girls, but
in a trash of emails or released in November, mister
Epstein suggested otherwise. In a twenty nineteen message to the
journalist Michael Wolfe, he wrote of mister Trump. Of course
he knew about the girls, as he asked Elane to stop.
The full context of mister Epstein's remark is unclear. In
a twenty ten deposition, mister Epstein was asked if he
had ever socialized with mister Trump with girls under eighteen,
as he did more than three dozen times. During the deposition,
mister Epstein invoked his constitutional right not to answer. Though
I'd like to answer that question at least today, I'm
going to have to assert my fifth, sixth and fourteenth
Amendment rights, sir, he replied. All right, folks, we're going
to wrap up episode one right here, and in the
next episode, we're going to pick up where we left off.
All of the information that goes with this episode can
be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode,
we're going to pick up where we left off with
the New York Times article about the relationship between Donald
Trump and Jeffrey Epstein once again. The authors of this
article are Nicholas Confessor and Julie Tait. Sex talk and
office hours. Sometimes the phone would ring in mister Trump's
office at Trump Tower. The caller, the mysterious Jeffrey, as
mister Trump described him in a two thousand and four
book of business advice, never gave a last name, nor
did he need to, mister Trump wrote, a few times
a week, the phone would ring in mister Epstein's office
in the Villard Houses on Madison Avenue. Mister Trump would
be on the line. On one occasion, recalled an Epstein
assistant from the mid nineties, Mister Trump refused to give
any name at all. The White House spokeswoman declined to
say whether mister Trump book was referring to a different Jeffrey,
but the two talked at least three times a week
during the mid to late nineties, according to a second
Epstein assistant from the period. The first assistant, who often
worked late, recalled that sometimes that when the office emptied out,
mister Epstein would check to see that she was at
her desk and put mister Trump on speaker. Mister Trump,
she said, seemed to enjoy regalling mister Epstein with tales
of his sexual exploits, and mister Epstein seemed to delight
and how uncomfortable it made her to overhear them. And
that's a power play, for sure, that's what people do.
Right I'm on the phone with this guy, let me
put it on speaker so I can flex and show
exactly the kind of power that me and my buddies
have over women. And it's something that Epstein did quite
a bit. She remembered one call in the mid nineties
on which the two men discussed how much pubic hair
a particular woman had and whether there was enough for
mister Epstein to floss his teeth with. Like, what, hold on,
wait a minute, talking about floss in your teeth with
pubic hair? You sick, disgusting piece of garbage. What sort
of degenerate mind even thinks up something like that? Have
you ever been sitting around saying to yourself, you know what,
I bet I could lost my teeth with someone's pubic hair.
The whole last thing is just weird and disgusting. On another,
mister Trump told mister Epstein about having sex with another
woman on a pool table. The former assistant said, and look,
I'm not going to sit here and tell you that
any of this is criminal. We don't know, we have
no idea. But it's the kind of conversations that in
the past would have sunk somebody if they were president.
So have we fallen that far as a society where
this kind of thing is just okay because it's your guy.
That is some wild shit. Because I promise you right now,
if this was Joe Biden who had this conversation with
Jeffrey Epstein, we would have never heard the end of it.
The same people that told us about Tom Hanks and
Adreno Chrome would have been talking about reptilians and you
name it. But now those same people are making excuses
for this kind of behavior from Donald Trump. None of
it's okay and all of it's disgusting. A woman known
in court records as Jane Doe, who mister Epstein traffic
during the mid nineties beginning in her early years, testified
in miss Maxwell's criminal trial in twenty twenty one that
Epstein often put famous friends on speakerphone in front of
other people. And that's what I was talking about previously.
That's something that Jeffrey Epstein did quite a bit. According
to a lot of reports, the cause with mister Trump
continued through the later years of the men's friendship. According
to a third former employee who worked for mister Epstein
on and off through most of the two thousands, and
also recalled them putting mister Trump on speaker. They would
talk about pageants or modeling shows for which countries women
were in vogue in the fashion world. Sometimes, the third
employee said, mister Trump went on so long that mister Epstein,
whose attention span was famously short, would leave the room
while his friend was still talking. That certainly tracks certainly
the kind of thing that Epstein did. And if you
think that Jeffrey Epstein was impressed by Donald Trump, you're crazy.
At this point, Jeffrey Epstein was more powerful than Donald Trump.
Keep that in mind. Trump might have had a few bucks,
but he wasn't protected like Jeffrey Epstein was. Maria Farmer,
an artist who said that she was sexually assaulted by
miss Maxwell and mister Epstein during the mid nineteen nineties,
till the Times in twenty nineteen that mister Epstein had
one summoned her to meet mister Trump at the Villard
House's office. Mister Trump leered at her, she said, before
mister Epstein informed him that she is not for you.
And I remember Maria telling me that directly, and she
also said it in the interview that I did with
her both times. So there's no doubt in my mind
that Trump was around quite a bit. I think the
only thing that we don't know now for sure is
how deep it ran, and if Trump was involved in
any kind of criminal behavior, well other than the cover up,
because that's certainly happening. I don't even think that's a debate.
This summer, a spokesman from mister Trump denied that the
president had ever set foot in mister Epstein's office, the
first former assistant, though well call mister Trump meeting there
briefly with mister Epstein at least several times during the
mid nineties. Her account was supported by Mark Epstein, mister
Epstein's brother, who said that Jeffrey had told him that
mister Trump visited very frequently. And Mark Epstein has been
adamant about that for years now. He's talked about how
Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump were very close. And it's
not just Mark Epstein saying it. We have a lot
of people who have come forward now and who have
corroborated the story. He was at the office all the
time back then, mister Epstein said in an interview with
the Times Daily. Handwritten notes kept by the first former
assistant and reviewed by the Times suggests that mister Trump
was a regular presence in mister Epstein's life. The notes,
spanning several months in the late nineteen ninety four, have
not been previously reported. Well, that's interesting, and I'm guessing
they're talking about Leslie Groff here? Is that who they interviewed?
Who else could it be? Some pages contain instructions to
call mister Trump or return his call. One note reminded
the assistant to call mister Trump's office to see if
he was flying to Florida tomorrow. Another recorded that a
package would be arriving with an invitation tomorrow lago events.
On one pager instructions about invitations for an upcoming party.
Mister Trump was to be invited, but only if his
ex wife, Havanna, with whom miss Maxwell was friendly, declined.
Their relationship was riddled with undertones of envy and disdain.
Mister Epstein seemed to hold a low opinion of his
friend's business acumen, according to the former employees and others
who knew him, Well, that's par for the course. Epstein
didn't have friends. He had people that he could use
and climb on, and if Trump was dumb enough to
think he was friends with Epstein, more's the pity. On
one occasion around two thousand and one, the third former
employee said mister Epstein was annoyed after mister Trump called him.
He later told the employee that mister Trump was short
on cash and wanted a ride on mister Epstein's plane. Well,
Trump certainly was going through some money problems back in
the day when everything failed up in Atlantic City, you know,
when people were pressing for their debts to be repaid.
Trump certainly was in a crunch. Now, did he have
any kind of business with Epstein as far as financial,
I don't know, but it seems likely. And that's another
reason that I think Trump is so worried about the
files coming out. He knows that he might be exposed
by his financial dealings with Jeffrey Epstein. During the early
years of their friendship, mister Trump was racing toward a
reckoning over the billions of dollars he had borrowed to
assemble his struggling empire, including casinos, hotels, an airline, and
a yacht. According to former Epstein employees, mister Trump seemed
attracted to the financier's wealth and business network, especially because
Trump couldn't get loans at the time. Nobody was going
to offer him money. So where's he going to get
that money? You go to a guy like Jeffrey fucking Epstein.
You want to talk about a middleman, You want to
talk about somebody that has access to billions, You're looking
at him. It's unclear whether mister Epstein, who ostensibly specialized
in offering tax and estate planning for wealthy clients, helped
mister Trump navigate his financial problems. But in his twenty
twenty memoir of representing Epstein victims relentless pursuit, the Florida
lawyer Bradley J. Edwards wrote that mister Epstein had claimed
to some young women that he had bailed his friend
out of bankruptcy. Boys and girls, that is bad news
for Donald Trump if that's the case. Was that money declared,
did he pay taxes on it? Where did that money originate?
Did it originate from a place of criminality? All of
these things you're going to have to be explored. Even
as he dismissed mister Trump's stillmaking mister Epstein, who could
be socially awkward at other people's part parties, seemed to
admire his friend's brash confidence and access to higher realms
of nightlife and celebrity. He frequently mentioned his friendship with
mister Trump, according to several accusers, telling one he had
a bedroom reserved at Mar A Lago. Take that with
a grain of salt. Epstein was certainly a liar, So
we have to take things that he said with a
grain of salt. And there's no doubt about that. Does
that mean everything he said was bullshit? No? And how
do we know, Well, we have to use evidence to
back up the comments he's making. Even after they fell out,
mister Epstein kept a frame photo of himself with mister
Trump and his future third wife, Malanya on a credenza
in his upper east side dining room. And you have
to understand that the pictures on the walls at Epstein's
house was like a menagerie, right. That was his collection
of people that he felt he had power over. I mean,
do we have to talk about Bill Clinton in the
blue dress? Well, you think Epstein just did that out
of the blue? Does the power play, folks? Just like
the picture of Trump on this credenza the party circuit.
A few years into mister Trump's friendship with mister Epstein,
Avonna Trump filed for divorce. Mister Trump's affair with Marlon Maples,
a former pageant contestant, was running hot and cold. In
ninety two, he invited NBC Tomorrow Lago to shoot a
video for a feature about his post divorce life on
the talk show A Closer Look. I love beautiful women,
I love going out with beautiful women, and I love
women in general, he said in the footage, And look
nothing wrong with that. Hell, I love beautiful women, I
love going out with beautiful women, I love being around them,
and I'm sure that most heterosexual meles out there feel
the same way. But at the same time, I don't
look at women as a piece of meat or something
to be conquered. They're my equals, my peers, my friends,
my sister, my wife, whatever. But these sons of bitches,
they have a whole different outlook on life, and they
look at people as commodities as opposed to people. So
there's nothing wrong with liking beautiful women wanting to be
around them. There's something completely and utterly wrong with abusing them.
The cameras captured him and mister Epstein at the Palm
Beach estate, surrounded by cheerleaders from the Miami Dolphins and
Buffalo Bills. In the video, mister Trump grabs a smiling
woman from the rear and pass her on the behind.
In another clip, he appears to point toward women on
the dance floor, and mister Epstein doubles over, laughing at
something his friend whispered. Can you imagine what kind of
vile nonsense these two guys were talking about. In January
of ninety three, mister Trump held another party at mar
A Lago, this one to kick off a beauty pageant
he was bringing to Atlantic City with two business partners,
George Harrainy and Jill Harth. Two dozen or so potential
contestants were flown in to meet mister Trump. The only
other guest at the party, mister Horny told The Times
in twenty nineteen, was mister Epstein. But remember, folks, they
weren't that close right there, weren't friends, hardly knew the guide,
never saw him, certainly never hung out with them. And
this is what I'm talking about, with Trump lying to
everybody's face. You can say that you didn't do anything wrong.
You can say you didn't do anything criminal, but you
can't try and recreate history. We all know what happened.
We all know that you guys were close, and it's
all documented. So if you're lying about that, what else
are you lying about? During dinner that night, miss Heart
alleged in a ninety seven lawsuit, mister Trump groped her
under the table, then cornered her in a bedroom normally
used by his daughter Yvanka, and forcibly kissed, fondled, and
restrained her from leaving. And that lawsuit was filed in
ninety seven, long before Trump was quote unquote a target
of a Democrat hoax. So what's the answer to that?
Just gonna write it off, No big deal. These kinds
of things happen. Well, if you're a scumbag, maybe later
in the pre dawn hours, she alleged in the suit,
mister Trump also sneaked into a bedroom being used by
a twenty two year old contestant, I'm onto her bed uninvited.
He groped her too, according to the suit. Mister Trump
has denied the allegations by Miss Harth, who declined to
comment the pageant partnership later fizzled, leading mister Horney to
separately sue mister Trump in ninety five for breach of contract.
Miss Harth said she withdrew her subsequent harassment lawsuit as
a condition for settling the contract dispute. She went on
to briefly date mister Trump. That whole situation's odd. I
don't know enough about that to break it down, but
we have to keep in mind there are people out
there that are looking for a bag, people that are
going to make all kinds of crazy allegations because they
know they're going to get paid. And I'm not saying
that's what happened with Miss Harth, but we always have
to be cognizant of that. We have to be aware
that it happens. According to mister Epstein, he and mister
Trump partied at his house too. In a twenty fifteen
email exchange with Landon Thomas Junior, then a Times reporter,
he recounted a moment when mister Trump was so focused
on young women swimming in his pool that he walked
into a glass door. Mister Epstein also referred to the
twenty two year old contestant from that night in ninety three,
indicating she had pictures of Donald and girls in bikinis
in my kitchen and providing her email address. The emails,
among those released by Congress last month, came as mister
Trump led in the polls for the Republican presidential nomination.
Mister Thomas, who had once pitched mister Epstein on a
sympathetic profile, said he was being approached by people who
thought he had juicy info on you and Trump. It's
unclear whether the photos of mister Epstein referenced exist. The
former contestant cannot be reached for comment. The Times is
withholding her name because she has publicly not come forward
with her own account of the events. Mister Thomas has
said he never received any photographs. He left The Times
in twenty nineteen after disclosing that he had solicited a
charitable contribution from mister Epstein. That's a whole less other
can of worms. Another fucking journalist on Epstein's dime. Huh,
No wonder the story never got out. In November of
nineteen ninety three, mister Trump's chosen pageant contestants flew in
from around the world for a week of events at
his properties in New York. And Atlantic City. At one point,
Miss Harth said in her lawsuit, mister Trump demanded that
she provide him with access to a seventeen year old
check contestant. The suit does not say if she complied
or if mister Trump met the contestant. Towards the end
of the week, the contestants joined mister Trump for a
press luncheon at the Plaza. One contestant, Beatrice coll Then,
a bank employee and part time model from Switzerland, said
in an interview with The Times that during the event,
one of mister Trump's employees asked her to meet him
privately in a sweet upstairs. Almost as soon as she arrived,
Miss Coole said, mister Trump began groping her, kissing her
and trying to lift her dress. I yelled, I screamed,
I pushed him. She said. He didn't want to give
up like you do? You do with that? Is everybody
just lying because they want to lie about Trump? Is
that really what you believe? At some point you have
to ask yourself how come all these people are making
these allegations if they're not true. She said that she
was withholding some of the details of what happened because
she had been subject to anonymous threats. Miss Coole first
described aspects of the episode to the Deli Mel last year.
A friend, Pascal Clavez, told The Times that Miss Coole
recounted the episode at the Plaza to him around two
thousand and four. Miss Coole also provided The Times with
pictures of documents corroborating her participation in the pageant and
of herself with mister Trump. Before the private meeting, she
was also approached by mister Epstein. I'm Jeffrey, I'm Don's
best friend, she recalled him, saying she was confused at first.
Miss Cole said, because she didn't seem to be affiliated
with the pageant, she didn't understand why he had been
allowed into the press luncheon. He said, Don likes you
very much and that there her organizing parties at mar
A Lago and he would love for you to join.
Miss Coole said he would take care of her, her flights,
her hotel. You just need to pack and come to
the party at mar A Lago, she recalled him, saying,
when Miss Cold demurred, mister Epstein tried other tactics, going
on about the wealth he kept in Swiss Banks, then
about famous friends with whom he could arrange meetings. Epstein
knew exactly what he was doing. She said, he had
hunting methods. It was a routine. The first to mister
Epstein's former assistants interviewed by The Times, said that on
dozens of occasions in the mid nineties, the financier Pedophile
instructed her to call a pageant winner from somewhere in
the world and invited her to visit him in Florida.
His standing offer, the assistant said, was an all expense
paid trip and five thousand dollars in cash to go
shopping on Worth Avenue, Palm Beach, Fame shopping destination. In
December of ninety three, not long after the pageant, mister
Trump married Miss Maples at the Plaza photo show. Mister
Rapstein in attendance, but the parties continued. All right, folks,
we're gonna wrap up episode two right there, and in
the next episode, we're gonna pick up where we left off.
All of the information that goes with this episode can
be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode,
we're picking up where we left off with the new
York Times article talking about the relationship between Donald Trump
and Jeffrey Epstein once again. This article was authored by
Nicholas Confessor and Julie Tait Dress Sexy. In the early
two thousands, guests mingled in the library or dining room
of mister Epstein's Upper East Side mansion as their host
held court. The women were beautiful and numerous, The men
were older and few. Occasionally, one of the women would
head toward the bedrooms, one of the men would shortly follow.
But wait, I thought that there was no trafficking going
on here. I'm sure that all these women, some of
them underage, doing it willingly, right. Right. One woman, then
a model and college student in her early twenties living
in Manhattan, said she attended four parties at the mansion.
She can't recall the names of most of the men
she met at the gatherings, not even those mister Epstein
directed her to take care of. At two of them
recruited by Miss Maxwell and then abused by mister Epstein.
She buried her shame and kept their secrets for years,
but mister Trump's presence stood out. She told The Times
he was a household name. Someone mister Epstein often bragged
about to the women around him, yet also someone he
seemed to compete with. It was like a pissing contest
who had the most women, she recalled. She requested anonymity
to describe her experiences in detail, saying she feared for
her family safety after mister Trump said some of his
critics could be executed for sedition. Yo, if that's the case,
I'm fucked. If they ever set up the guillotines your
boys definitely getting his head chopped off. To people in
the modeling business, men like mister Trump and mister Epstein
were a familiar part of the scene. Wealthy men who
use their money, clout, and personal connections in fashion to
meet the young women who worked in the industry. Two
days a week, you'd be at a model dinner at
a restaurant, said Heather Braden, a model and filmmaker, and
there'd be these men we didn't know. Miss Braden, who
now lives in Utah, said she often saw mister Trump
and mister Epstein at the same parties or dinners during
the nineties in New York and South Florida, including at
Mar a Lago, which mister Trump converted to a member's
club in nineteen ninety five, and do all these people
have motivations to lie all these people that are coming forward.
It doesn't make sense, and I highly doubt that these
people are lying now. Again, it doesn't prove criminality, but
it certainly strengthens the bonds. And it really puts into
perspective why Donald Trump is so worried about the files
being released and information about his time with Jeffrey Epstein
becoming public. Even if there is no criminal acts, just
his stuff alone is enough to tarnish you. Donald Trump
knows that, and that's why it took people to drag
them kicking and screaming to have these files unsealed. If
there was nothing damaging or something that exonerated them, forget it.
We would have had them the day he got elected,
you know, like he promised to do while he was
on the campaign trail. That would have been nice, huh.
But I said it then and I'll say it again.
There was never a chance that Trump was gonna release
the documents because he knew what was in them. Each
man cultivated relationships that in turn put them in proximity
to young women in the industry. Mister Epstein exploited his
close relationship with Les Wexner, the owner of Victoria's Secret,
sometimes telling women he could get them meetings or bookings.
Photographers or camera crews captured mister Epstein and mister Trump
together at Victoria's Secret events in ninety seven and ninety nine.
And not only that, but Les Wexner was way more
involved than anybody likes to let on. I urge you
all to listen to what Maria Farmer had to say
about Les Wexner, and also listened to what Virginia said.
Wexner is not some peripheral character here. He was a
central component to Jeffrey Epstein's operation for a very long time.
And yes, he's been credibly accused of taking part in
the abuse himself. So I would think that less Wexner
would be talked about a little bit more. Everybody talks
about they want names, names, names, Well, there's a name
for you. What have you done with it? Oh that's right,
not a damn thing. All these people out here talking
about we want names. Why don't the survivors give us names? Well,
because when they did name people, nobody did shit about it,
and then they got sued, they got threatened, they had
their lives upended. So guess what, here's a novel idea.
Why isn't the DOJ name names you know, do their
job mister Trump, but friend died the Hawaiian Tropic founder
Ron Rice, who told the Boston Globe that he would
send models and pageant contestants to mar A Lago for
parties at mister Trump's request. And John Casablancis, the founder
of Elite Model Management, who is Looking of the Year
contest Mister Trump sponsored and helped judge in the early
nineteen nineties. For Mari Lago gatherings, groups of models were
sometimes busted in from Miami, often with the help of
mister Trump's friend Jason Binn, co founder of the society
magazine Ocean Drive. Mister Binn did not return calls an
email seeking comment. Of course, not last thing he wants
to do is out Trump right. He knows what the
results are if he does that. Tina Davis, who work
with Ford Models in the mid nineties, said in an
interview that her Ford booker instructed her to get dressed
up and attend a party at Mara A Lago in
late ninety four, just fourteen and new to Miami, she
was told to dress sexy. According to her mother, Sandra Coleman,
who had accompanied her to Florida, eight or nine other
models came along on the bus. All the girls were
really young, Miss Coleman were called in an interview, some
of them could have been in training bras like, come on,
why are those girls going anywhere without supervision? Why are
those girls going to these modeling events? And why are
people like Donald Trump and the rest of these scumbags
okay with it. When they arrived at Mar A Lago,
Miss Coleman said that her daughter was promptly handed a
glass of champagne. She took it away, but waiters kept
offering more. Each time one of the middle aged men
at the party approached her daughter, Miss Coleman would walk
over and introduce herself as Davis's mother. During a trip
to the bathroom, they ran into mister Trump's new wife,
whom they had met earlier. Miss Maples clasped her hands.
Miss Coleman recalled and looked her in the eye. Whatever
you do, do, not let her around any of these men,
and especially my husband, she told Miss Coleman, protect her. Well,
that's pretty fucking scary. Huh. Imagine somebody said that to you,
somebody's wife. That's when I'd be hitting the eject button
and taking my kid directly home. Well, i'd never have
my kid at one of these things anyway. But that's
neither here nor there. But the second I heard that shit,
see you later, we're out. Miss Maples denied making the comment.
I would always protect young women in any way I could,
she said, but I'm sure I didn't specifically say that
about my daughter's father. Mister Epstein was a frequent guest
at mar Lago parties. A woman who said mister Epstein
trafficked her in the late nineties and early two thousands
were called attending at least a half dozen of the
parties beginning when she was seventeen and modeling during the
winter fashion season in Florida. Mister Epstein showed up at
several of them too. He always seemed to know about
events happening at Mar A Lago, she said, even when
he didn't attend, and he was always curious about her experiences.
The invitations typically came from mister Binn and Ocean Drive,
bidding the models to be Donald Trump's guests at Mar
A Lago. According to one invitation she shared with The Times,
the parties were open bar and no one checked IDs.
She said, mister Trump was always all over them, she recalled,
So nobody was checking id's and it was an open
bar and all these little girls there. That sounds like
a fucking recipe for disaster. No. The woman provided a
picture of herself and a friend with mister Trump at
mar A Lago. She said she didn't remember whether she
was still seventeen at the time of the picture. She
has not previously spoken publicly about the meeting with the
future president, and asked for anonymity because she feared retaliation
from him or his supporters. Again, people are scared of that.
Anybody engaging in that behavior is a coward. Anyone attacking
these women for telling their story is a complete and
utter piece of shit. During the nineties, both mister Epstein
and mister Trump also forged ties with an up and
coming modeling agency known as Next and its co founder
of Faith Kids, who would become one of the industry's
major figures. Mister Epstein sometimes seen around Next office meetings,
According to Miss Braden, who was represented by an agency
that merged with Next in the early nineteen nineties. After
mister Epstein's death, several former employees told The Daily Beast
that they had seen mister Epstein around the NEXT offices
or taken calls from him after he was arrested in
Florida for soliciting underage girls. He also donated money to
a charity funded and founded by Miss Kates. Mister Trump
attended Next parties in New York, according to a former
model who was represented by the agency in the late
nineties and said she once found herself seated near mister
Trump at the agency's holiday dinner. The agency also sometimes
sent models to parties at mar A Lago. Zoe Brock,
a New Zealand model who worked for Next in Miami,
said she was pressured by the agency to attend one
of mister Trump's parties in ninety eight when she was
twenty four. Once she balked, a representative of the agency
offered to pay her a few hundred dollars to attend.
Not long after, she said, she boarded a bus with
twenty or so other models at mar A Lago. Each
woman was given a red and white striped wristband advertising them.
Miss Brock felt as meet none of the other guests,
chiefly men in tuxedos, were the wristbands. The women were
made to line up and meet mister Trump. Yeah, very
normal behavior. Okay, all you women line up, you have
to meet me. All you little fourteen year old girls
come over and say hi to Daddy Diddles. I had
a glass of champagne and I immediately felt not well,
Miss Brock recalled, adding, I thought my drink had been spiked.
It was Miss Kates who brought her client, Miss Williams
to the ninety two dinner where she first met Epstein,
some months after she made her Sports Illustrated debut, and
it was Miss Kate's who brought her to mister Trump's
annual holiday party at the Plaza that fall, where she
ran into mister Epstein again, and where mister Trump also
vied for her attention. Praising her recent spread in the
Swimsuit Issue, Miss Williams said, I think they were trying
to get as high up the chain of models as
far as they could. Miss Williams said they wanted the
biggest prize and the most famous model, but it was
mister Eppstein, not mister Trump, to whom she gave her
number one day the following year, as she strolled down
Fifth Avenue, mister Epstein proposed visiting his friend in Trump Tower.
The real purpose of the visit, Miss Williams later came
to believe was to play a game. As the two
friends stood talking in mister Trump's waiting room, she said,
the real estate developer pulled her towards them and groped
her breast waist in buttocks. Mister Epstein acted like nothing
had happened after they left, though he flew into a rage,
be rating Miss Williams for letting Trump touch her. That
certainly tracks maybe not with you know, the whole story,
but the way Epstein would react. He did the same
thing with Harvey Weinstein. I'm convinced that's why he walked
me in there, she said in a recent interview. He
thought I would punch him in the face or something,
but I froze. A Trump representative previously called her allegations
unequivocally false. Miss Kates departed next in November after emails
released by Congress indicated that she and mister Epstein had
remained close for years after his two thousand and eight
plea on charges of soliciting a minor. A NEXT spokeswoman
declined to answer question sent by email in staid, sending
a statement that the agency has never had a business
relationship with Jeffrey Epstein or Donald Trump. Miss Kates also
declined to answer specific questions. Neither Faith nor anyone associated
with Next ever brought clients to parties or dinners for
any inappropriate purpose. A spokesman for Kate's had said the
women who attended four parties at Epstein's mansion in the
early two thousands said she had first met Miss Maxwell
at a show during New York Fashion Week in two thousand.
Miss Maxwell presented herself as a wealthy, well educated mentor,
taking her to lunch and charity events. Eventually, she offered
to introduce her to a friend, mister Epstein. She said.
Miss Maxwell told her that he could help her achieve
her dream of modeling for Victoria's Secret. The three met
at mister Epstein's mansion that fall and talked about her career.
On a second visit, she ReCl mister Epstein and Miss
Maxwell began touching each other, and then her she froze.
I don't know if I could have moved if I
wanted to, she said, expecting an apology, she returned for
a third visit. Instead, she said, mister Epstein warned her
that cameras in the mansion had recorded their encounter. He
insisted she come to parties there, terrified that her parents
and pastor would find what had happened. She acquiesced the
women at the four parties she attended didn't seem to
know one another. The other men arrived individually. She recalled
meeting mister Trump at one of the parties. She showed
The Times a handwritten address book she kept in those
years containing mister Trump's name and two of his phone numbers.
Mister Trump did not act inappropriately with her, the woman said,
And again it's important to note a lot of people
are going to say, well, look, there's nothing incriminating here
for Trump. I disagree. Maybe not incriminating as far as
abusing people, but lying. And that's a big deal, especially
if you're the fucking president of the United States. The
woman said. She hoped the Justice Department will release redacted
documents relating to her interview with the FBI, which took
place in New York City in the summer of twenty twenty,
she said, in which she mentioned mister Trump's presence at
the parties that same year. According to documents the woman provided,
she was interviewed about mister Trump and mister Epstein by
representatives of the Epstein Victims Compensation Program, and later received
a settlement another victim's fund handling claims against JP Morgan
to settle allegations that the bank ignored warnings about mister
Epstein's abuses also approved the woman for a settlement, so
not alleged somebody that got money got a settlement and
somebody that was involved. She has since filed paperwork to
join a Florida lawsuit by more than thirty women, most
under pseudonyms, alleging that the FBI failed to properly investigate
reports of sex crimes and child sex trafficking by mister
Epstein dating to ninety nine. Government lawyers have asked a
judge to dismiss the case. The government knew about Epstein,
They were aware of his sexual abuse of miners and
young women, said Jennifer Plotkin, a lawyer for the women,
and because they did nothing, hundreds and hundreds of women
were abused over twenty years. Miss Maxwell is serving a
twenty year federal prison sentence. For conspiring with mister Abstein
to traffic underage girls. Last July, the Deputy Attorney General
Todd Blanche traveled to Florida to interviewerr. She acknowledged mister
Trump's social relationship with mister Apstein, but said that he
had never seen the President behave inappropriately. A week later,
she was transferred to a minimum security prison. Her lawyers
are now seeking to overturn her conviction that whole entire
thing is one of the biggest tells that this is
a cover up, the fact that she was moved. It
is incredible to me. It's something that should be a
bigger problem to a lot of people because it really
shows intent. No reason for Maxwell to be moved unless
he's playing ball, and it's obvious she's not playing ball,
at least not for the survivors. Maybe for Trump, but
not for the survivors, not for us. So if you're
looking for a tell, if you're looking for evidence of
a cover up, there it is rewriting history. In the
early two thousands, mister Epstein, now extraordinarily wealthy and well connected,
seemed to grow less content with the anonymity he had
carefully drawn around his life and his business. In two
thousand and two, practically inviting public scrutiny, he arranged a
fly with former President Bill Clinton and a celebrity entourage
on a humanitarian trip to Africa. Details of the trip
were soon shared with The New York Post page six.
Not long after New York magazine published the first major
profile of mister Epstein, Mister Trump provided the headline quote,
He's a lot of fun to be with. It's even
said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do,
and many of them are on the younger side. But
sometime in the subsequent years their friendship soured. Exactly when
and why is unclear. After the allegations against mister Epstein
slowly began to emerge into view in the mid two thousands,
accounts mister Trump and his representatives gave of their relationship
and its end began to molt and morph. Mister Epstein
was kicked out of Our a lago for being inappropriate
with a massuse or with the daughter of a member.
Mister Trump had banned them for approaching employees or for
being a creep. In other words, the story changes whenever
it's convenient, and like usual, Trump's just trying to set
himself up as some kind of hero. The first public
signs of a breach came in two thousand and seven
with an anonymous page six item, right as mister Epstein
was negotiating a plea deal to resolve the first federal
and stay charges against them. Mister Epstein, the Post reported,
had been banned from our a Lago for soliciting a
massuse about eighteen years of age. The item appeared to
refer to Virginia Roberts, who said she was recruited by
Maxwell from mar Alago, spaj just shy of her seventeenth
birthday back in two thousand, when mister Epstein and mister
Trump were still close. Several years after the page six item,
when Miss Roberts had gone public with her allegations, mister
Epstein wrote to Miss Maxwell expressing surprise that mister Trump
had not gotten more attention, writing that his friend had
spent hours at my house with Miss Roberts. Miss Maxwell
replied that she had been thinking about the same thing.
In depositions in twenty sixteen, with mister Trump a leading
contender for the world's most powerful public office, Miss Roberts
said that mister Trump had never had sex with her,
and that she couldn't remember seeing him in mister Epstein's home.
She died by suicide this April, and Virginia told me
the same exact thing. When her and I talked about this,
she told me the same thing. So I'm not going
to sit here and make things up. I'm not going
to sit here and tell you that I have proof
that Trump was abusing people with Jeffrey Epstein. But what
I will tell you is this, I think he's lied
about the whole relationship, and I certainly think that there's
a cover up under way. In two thousand and nine,
mister Edwards, the lawyer representing a group of Epstein victims,
set out to depose mister Epstein's circle of powerful friends.
In his book, mister Edwards wrote that mister Trump quickly
agreed to a phone call. Mister Epstein was merely a
business acquaintance. He told mister Edwards he cannot recall exactly
why mister Epstein had been removed from mar A Lago.
He said he had last seen him at the business
meeting at mister Epstein's pom Beach home some time before
the allegations came to light. The only reason Trump went
on record is because they had the falling out, and
Trump thought that he was going to be able to
slam it home and cause problems for Epstein by having
an interview with Brad Edwards. What you think Trump cared
about the victims. No, he cared how he could use
this information to his own benefit, the same thing he's
doing now, but in reverse hiding the information because he
knows it's damning against him. Even so, in early twenty fifteen,
as mister Trump began exploring a presidential bid, stories about
mister Epstein's widening legal trouble still referred to mister Trump
as his friend. Mister Trump and his representatives became more aggressive.
Mister Epstein was merely one of thousands of people who
had visited mar A Lago. Alan Garton, mister Trump's top
aide and lawyer, told BuzzFeed News. He was even more
definitive that following year, there was no relationship between Jeffrey
Epstein and Donald Trump. Mister Garton told Fox News they
were not friends and they did not socialize together. This
is what I mean, this is what we should be
focusing on the actual lies we can prove if we
do that, everything else is going to fall into place.
When a reporter from the Associated Press asked mister Trump
about mister Epstein in twenty fifteen, he responded elliptically. He
was certainly a man about town, and because of the
fact that is a small island, he got to know
a lot of people, mister Trump said, referring to Palm Beach.
When I started reading about the different things, and then
things were proven, that's a different planet, that's a different world.
Interviews in public records, however, indicate that mister Trump at
times had interacted socially with women who accused mister Epstein
and miss Maxwell of grooming or abuse. The federal case
against Miss Maxwell described her role in grooming three victims
under the age of eighteen between ninety four and ninety seven.
One of them, a woman known in court records as
Jane Doe, alleged in a separate civil complaint that mister
Epstein had taken her to visit mister Trump at mar
A Lago in ninety four when she was fourteen. This
is a good one, right, mister Epstein said, elbowing mister
Trump playfully. According to the complaint, mister Trump smiled and nodded,
and the two men chuckled. The victim said her case
ended in a settlement with mister Epstein's estate. In twenty
twenty one, testifying at Miss Maxwell's trial, she said she
competed in mister Trump's Miss Teen USA pageant. Jack O'Donnell,
who ran the Trump Plaza in Atlantic City for several
years and later wrote a critical book about mister Trump,
were called in an interview that mister Trump once arrived
at the casino after midnight one Sunday in September of
eighty nine with mister Epstein and three young women. A
state gambling inspector recognized one of the women as tennis
star Gabriella Sabatini, who was nineteen and was too young
to legally enter the casino. In a call that Monday,
the inspector told mister O'Donnell that all the women looked
very young. He said, soon after, mister o'donald called mister
Trump to flag the issue. This is a repeating pattern here. Okay,
once or twice you can write it off. This is
a pattern, and in my opinion, not so easily written off. Yeah,
Jeffrey likes some young mister Trump said, mister O'Donnell recalled
in a recent interview too young for Me. Mister o'donald
previously described the episode in Slate. The White House called
his account of fabrication. Efforts to reach Miss Abatteini were unsuccessful.
Everything's a fabric right, Nothing's ever true unless it gives
Trump a good light. Whatever the cause of their latest
falling out, mister Epstein remained obsessed with mister Trump In
the years after their last known contact. He exchanged hundreds
of emails with others mentioning his former friend. As mister
Trump's political career took flight in the mid twenty tens,
mister Epstein's umbrage seemed to grow even as he maneuvered
to regain influence within mister Trump's world. He mocked and
criticized him in private, calling him nuts and evil beyond belief.
According to emails released by Congress, he resented mister Trump's
efforts to distance himself. The emails show his older, smoother,
former friend seemed untouchable while he was enveloped in scandals
once again, as more and more victims came forward with
their accounts of abuse. In an interview taped by mister
Wolf in twenty seventeen and published by the Daily Beasts
last year, mister Epstein described what he said was mister
Trump's technique for trying to bed the wives of friends.
Mister Wolf asked how he had such intimate knowledge of
mister Trump. I was Donald's closest friend for ten years,
mister Epstein replied, in emails, he hinted to friends that
he could take mister Trump down. He didn't say how.
All right, folks, Well, that's the New York Times profile
on the relationship between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, and
I think they did a good job in connecting the
dots here and putting things into context, because there's no
doubt that Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump had a friendship
that lasted for years. So for me, the real question
is this, what did Donald Trump know and when did
he know it. All of the information that goes with
this episode can be found in the description box.