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Speaker 1: research has classified issues such as geoengineering, MK ultra an
Speaker 1: invasive electromagnetic weapons. The author of several books, including Under
Speaker 1: the I and I Sky, and many others. Alana Freelan,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. It's good to see you again.
Speaker 2: Yes, good to see you writer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a lot of stuff happening. We just
Speaker 1: recently had the AI robot at the White House that
Speaker 1: I don't believe people made too big of a deal about.
Speaker 1: I thought that that was really interesting. Not a lot
Speaker 1: of people were really talking about that, And it seems
Speaker 1: here recently a lot of people are talking about the
Speaker 1: UFO file. But I'm kind of for the whole UFO
Speaker 1: narrative and discussion. It seems to just be a nothing
Speaker 1: burger after a nothing burger, and they just keep kind
Speaker 1: of stringing us along on this kind of after years
Speaker 1: and years of doing this and looking into it, I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of over it at this point. So this
Speaker 1: would be a really good fresh take on your new
Speaker 1: book that will be coming out here recently, Remaining Human
Speaker 1: standing up to the transhuman nano machine takeover of Homo sapiens.
Speaker 1: So could you explain a little bit about that book
Speaker 1: and how it's coming to be and because I've read
Speaker 1: your other books for but obviously haven't read this one
Speaker 1: because it hasn't been released yet. So can you give
Speaker 1: the audience a little bit of a run up to that?
Speaker 1: And I mean, we can kind of understand what it's
Speaker 1: about from the title of the book, but if you
Speaker 1: could explain that in a little bit more detail, please.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I started out, as people may remember, with a
Speaker 2: couple of books back in twenty fourteen and twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: Chemtrails harp and the Full Spectrum Dominance of Planet Earth
Speaker 2: and the under an Ionized Sky from Chemtrails to Space
Speaker 2: Fence Lockdown. Then I discovered a lot of new things,
Speaker 2: new connections in there, and then I wrote Geoengineered Transhumanism,
Speaker 2: which begins to pick up the theme of what big Pharma,
Speaker 2: the huge role that Big Pharma has played in the
Speaker 2: chemicals that are coming down on us from the chemtrails
Speaker 2: they you know, at first it was well, it's about
Speaker 2: slowing down the sun rays so that we don't you know,
Speaker 2: burn to death here, whatever, and then it was a
Speaker 2: little bit more, and then it was a little bit
Speaker 2: more about the chemicals. But what was not being said
Speaker 2: and yet was found as early as two thousand and
Speaker 2: five by the scientists Clifford Carnicum, whom I'm still working with,
Speaker 2: by the way, it's been twenty years. He found erythrocytes
Speaker 2: red blood cells in the detritus coming down from the
Speaker 2: jets in the wake of jets flying over northern New Mexico.
Speaker 2: He found various entities like more gallons. People may remember that,
Speaker 2: the older people anyway, more gallons. It's still around, it's
Speaker 2: still coming down from the sky, unbelievably, and we didn't
Speaker 2: know it then. But the more gallons that he was finding,
Speaker 2: and the morgallans that I was interviewing a lot of
Speaker 2: the victims who had morgallans, very very uncomfortable, very very
Speaker 2: scary stuff, but constantly being undermined by the corporate media.
Speaker 2: If you chanced to go to a doctor to get
Speaker 2: some help, you were told you had delusional psych delusionals.
Speaker 2: I can't remember, psytosis or something like that. And there
Speaker 2: was no It was obviously a psyop going on to
Speaker 2: Clifford and me, but every time that we would try
Speaker 2: to bring it up, it would not get any coverage,
Speaker 2: and it would just sort of die away as being
Speaker 2: too big for people to really grasp. I think was
Speaker 2: really what was going on, primarily besides the fact of
Speaker 2: being blocked in various ways. So by the time I
Speaker 2: did the third book, Geoengineered Transhumanism, that's the six hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty page book with color sixty color photos. Uh,
Speaker 2: I call it the Encyclopedia. I was really looking at
Speaker 2: the synthetic biology part of the chemtrails and and I
Speaker 2: was I was putting together that it was really about
Speaker 2: the transhumanism that you kept hearing about. But was you know,
Speaker 2: it made They made transhumanism sound like it was simply
Speaker 2: a matter of enhancements. You were going to be smarter,
Speaker 2: you were going to be stronger, you were going to
Speaker 2: be able to run longer. Uh and and really, uh,
Speaker 2: it wasn't about that at all. So then after I
Speaker 2: wrote that big fat book, I was approached by Inner
Speaker 2: Traditions and they asked me to redo that big fat
Speaker 2: book as a smaller book, cheaper book, and easier to
Speaker 2: read book. And I found that I couldn't do that,
Speaker 2: but I offered to write two books for them, and
Speaker 2: that's what I've done. This one that we now are
Speaker 2: talking about remaining human. Comes a year and a half
Speaker 2: now after the Companion volume, which is the first volume,
Speaker 2: and that one sounds a lot like the third book,
Speaker 2: but is not the trans The geoengineered transhuman is more
Speaker 2: up to date and definitely gets into what being human is.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people make assumptions that, well,
Speaker 2: if you have a head and a torso and legs
Speaker 2: and arms, you're a human. But I think there's a
Speaker 2: lot more to being human. I actually think there are
Speaker 2: a lot of people walking around who are aren't quite human.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of scientists have sold their humanity
Speaker 2: for their careers and for the excitement of getting deeply
Speaker 2: involved in synthetic biology. Because what's happening now, and most
Speaker 2: people don't understand how important this is, and I'm sorry
Speaker 2: that I'm not going to spend the time to stress
Speaker 2: it is that they are changing molecular biology, which I
Speaker 2: studied in college in undergrad They're making molecular biology into
Speaker 2: a digital biology would be the best way to say it.
Speaker 2: In other words, they can take the frequency of something,
Speaker 2: say it's ebola, the disease known as ebola, take the
Speaker 2: ebola frequency, transmit it by five G or six G
Speaker 2: and both are up and running. I'm sorry to say
Speaker 2: it is not a matter of waiting for six G.
Speaker 2: It's up and running. But that can then be transmitted
Speaker 2: to an area of the globe, a certain people, a
Speaker 2: certain individual, however they want to do it, and what
Speaker 2: you will get is you'll get the frequency of that
Speaker 2: in a digital format, but you will then have all
Speaker 2: the symptomatology of that disease. So what am I saying here, Well,
Speaker 2: they're getting ready for a transhuman race. It seems to
Speaker 2: me that they can then control or let's say, a
Speaker 2: transhuman hybrid race, which is more likely for the masses.
Speaker 2: When they did the five point five billion people, apparently
Speaker 2: that's the number put out when they vaccinated them all,
Speaker 2: or inoculated would be a more correct word. What were
Speaker 2: they inoculating? Is the question. People spend a lot of
Speaker 2: time on this, on my CV nineteen looking at the
Speaker 2: various components of it, the components that are not listed
Speaker 2: as being in there but are in there, the components
Speaker 2: listed as being in there and aren't in there. I mean,
Speaker 2: the confusion of this psyop was extraordinary. So that's one
Speaker 2: of the things I'm concentrating on in both the books,
Speaker 2: The Geoengineered Transhuman, the one that came out just before
Speaker 2: this one, and Remaining Human is trying to sort all
Speaker 2: that out in a way that is not huge and
Speaker 2: detailed and with lots of scientific knowledge, but going from
Speaker 2: what we know as the public and some of the
Speaker 2: stories we've heard, and then from there I go into
Speaker 2: ways of thinking about being human because I'm a big
Speaker 2: fan of a very famous but miss miss applied to
Speaker 2: Einstein phrase, which is that we you cannot solve a
Speaker 2: problem with the same thinking you used to create the problem.
Speaker 2: And I'm a very big fan of that. And and
Speaker 2: what the problem is is not, oh well, that's that's
Speaker 2: rather clever. The problem is most people don't really most
Speaker 2: people can't really think anymore, at least according to how
Speaker 2: I define thinking. And uh, and if it isn't short
Speaker 2: and like a pill, it sort of evaporates from the brain. Well,
Speaker 2: we know. And you've been doing a film that I
Speaker 2: certainly hope I will be able to see about the
Speaker 2: psychic capabilities of mind control. I'm you know, I spent
Speaker 2: ten years on MK Ultra. I consider myself a semi expert. Uh,
Speaker 2: And I know a lot of MK ultra H survivors,
Speaker 2: and I helped them when I can, to write their books,
Speaker 2: to edit and get it all ship shaped so that
Speaker 2: they can put it out there and and uh feel
Speaker 2: maybe make a little money, not much, but that they
Speaker 2: that they have told their story and and that that
Speaker 2: that will be probably the last justice they see about that.
Speaker 2: Uh So, to me, if they can do the mind control,
Speaker 2: and when the people lined up like they did for
Speaker 2: the for the jobs, I recognize mind control right away.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know it was you were told it
Speaker 2: was an experiment. You were told that you would lose
Speaker 2: your job if you didn't do it. You were told,
Speaker 2: you told a whole lot of stuff. Of course, the
Speaker 2: one that was the most ridiculous, well not ridiculous, it
Speaker 2: was dirty pool was the one that said, you're going
Speaker 2: to save humanity if you do this, and if you
Speaker 2: don't do it, you're condemning humanity to disease and death.
Speaker 2: So we have now worked our way quite a ways,
Speaker 2: we being the vanguard at the very least in the
Speaker 2: West of people who have awakened. And I wanted to
Speaker 2: bring this book out. Spent six months, ten hours a
Speaker 2: day writing, no breaks, no breaks, because I'm a firm
Speaker 2: believer that if you want a book published, you have
Speaker 2: got to write every day. You cannot take vacations and
Speaker 2: go take the weekend off and no, no, you have
Speaker 2: to just slam it because otherwise books don't get written.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine all the great books that have not
Speaker 2: been written. And here I am right in an era
Speaker 2: in which people do not read and do not retain
Speaker 2: what they read. So you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: challenges to this. But unless we really know what being
Speaker 2: human is, how can we shoot for that mark to
Speaker 2: protect it? We will just simply think that everybody is
Speaker 2: the same. It's just we're all humans, and we're all
Speaker 2: we're all going to be jabbed at some point and
Speaker 2: the law is going to take over. And no, not necessarily,
Speaker 2: not necessarily, if you really understand the greatness of the
Speaker 2: human being. And for that I obeyed what came down
Speaker 2: from inner traditions. They wanted me to write about Rudolf Steiner,
Speaker 2: and I have studied Rudolf Steiner now for forty five years.
Speaker 2: I was a Waldorf teacher for eighteen or sixteen years,
Speaker 2: helped to start for Waldorf schools. I think I know
Speaker 2: Steiner well, and he was the very first one appeal to,
Speaker 2: which was amazing back in twenty twenty when uh uh
Speaker 2: doctor Cowan and uh and doctor uh Dietrich what's Dietrich's
Speaker 2: last name? Uh clingheart? When Dietrich clingheart and and and
Speaker 2: Cowen both quoted Steiner and one hundred years ago saying
Speaker 2: that there would come a day when Western doctors would
Speaker 2: create a vaccine that would eradicate what is really human
Speaker 2: And and you know, I heard that, and I recognized
Speaker 2: we're there, We're there.
Speaker 1: And what do you think about these these loss drugs,
Speaker 1: because that seems to be the way that people got
Speaker 1: them to inject something that is you know, quote unquote
Speaker 1: beneficial for them. You know, if you didn't take the
Speaker 1: other thing for the the disease, right then they got
Speaker 1: you with the weight loss thing. Because I don't think
Speaker 1: that it was a coincidence that a lot of these
Speaker 1: weight loss drugs that are an injection came out right
Speaker 1: after twenty twenty, right, it seemed like that that was
Speaker 1: another thing that they were hitting us with. So if
Speaker 1: you didn't get that one thing, well then here's another thing.
Speaker 1: But see that's the thing too, is that they can
Speaker 1: also put this in the food. They can put this
Speaker 1: in the vegetable. I mean, there are geoengineered bugs. Right.
Speaker 1: There's even a bug that can make you allergic to meat.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm sure you're familiar with this,
Speaker 1: but there's a tick that can literally make you allergic
Speaker 1: to meat. Right here it is. This tick can make
Speaker 1: you allergic to meat, and it's spreading. Okay, So they
Speaker 1: have many different ways to get this inside of people.
Speaker 1: So you're not only possibly getting it through the water,
Speaker 1: you're getting it through the food. You're getting it through
Speaker 1: all these injections. And we've had this setup for a
Speaker 1: really long time throughout movies and television, whether it be
Speaker 1: sci fi or it be some horror movie, it seems
Speaker 1: to be that there's like always this thought of like
Speaker 1: an injection that's going to save you and that's going
Speaker 1: to fix you, I mean, or a pill. Right, Like
Speaker 1: we've been programmed with this for a really really long time.
Speaker 1: I mean you can even look at the matrix. The
Speaker 1: matrix was based around a pill that you take, a
Speaker 1: Rhetora Blue pill. Other ones have been based off of injections.
Speaker 1: There's several movies that have incorporated AI into their thing
Speaker 1: where you know, the will robots have rights like humans
Speaker 1: have rights, it's in the future because they look identical
Speaker 1: to us. So I think that goes back to like
Speaker 1: what you're talking about here is like, you know, what
Speaker 1: makes us human? What is it that makes us human?
Speaker 1: Is it just looks because they can make a robot
Speaker 1: that looks identical to a human, But does that mean
Speaker 1: that they're a human.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But that's why I brought in Rudolph Steiner because
Speaker 2: he is known in the West as a mystic. I
Speaker 2: think that's not quite fair because he's more like he
Speaker 2: had a PhD in physics. He was one of these
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was a savant, but he
Speaker 2: certainly was one who was penetrating and looking into everything.
Speaker 2: And so when I brought him on, of course I'm
Speaker 2: very fond of him. But he takes our thinking and
Speaker 2: shakes it up a bit and makes us I mean
Speaker 2: the materialistic West, where we we think that if you
Speaker 2: can't see it, taste it, smell it, touch it, that
Speaker 2: it doesn't it doesn't exist. And uh, and that's that's
Speaker 2: our problem, is that and we used to not be
Speaker 2: like that in science. The science has been really perverted
Speaker 2: by those seeking power, and now it's it's the AI
Speaker 2: that they're they're not chasing us with. They're changing from
Speaker 2: you know, the nuclear bomb going off to AI, and
Speaker 2: the AI is a very it's a very good idea.
Speaker 2: If you're going to put this info out, just create
Speaker 2: a few Ais, make them look human, give them attributes
Speaker 2: that are like transhumans, like hybrid humans, because look what
Speaker 2: we're dealing with. We he had a president recently who
Speaker 2: wore a mask, for example, and you would have to
Speaker 2: know he was wearing one of those amazing masks that
Speaker 2: they make now extraordinarily sensitive. And yet you are also
Speaker 2: dealing with doubles. You're dealing with people who look an
Speaker 2: awful lot like the people the person being taken out
Speaker 2: of the picture. And now you've got something else. So
Speaker 2: we're dealing with what you just said that you know
Speaker 2: it looks like you know, we say, if it looks
Speaker 2: like a duck in Quax, like a duck, it must
Speaker 2: be a duck. Well that may not be true for
Speaker 2: a human being, because we've got all sorts of very
Speaker 2: sophisticated science attempting to really dupe us, is what I
Speaker 2: think it is. And you think of the millions of
Speaker 2: dollars that go into just duping us. But then they
Speaker 2: get the billions and trillions of dollars out of taxpayers
Speaker 2: and out of people who buy nonsensical stuff. And you know,
Speaker 2: so there's definitely the theme of it looks like this,
Speaker 2: but is it really this? And that is Rudolph Steiner
Speaker 2: is very helpful in that because if you realize how
Speaker 2: great the human being is and this is you know,
Speaker 2: for him, this is not a couch potato, This is
Speaker 2: not a slab of meat. This is not just a
Speaker 2: gene pool. This has a spiritual element to it. The
Speaker 2: human being that comes to this planet as a school
Speaker 2: is the only thing that really resonates with me. It's
Speaker 2: a very big school of hard knocks, and we are
Speaker 2: not It's just sort of dirty pool at the beginning
Speaker 2: because we're not told much of anything. And what greets
Speaker 2: us a whole bunch of shots in which drugs are
Speaker 2: put into us medicaments, and as they used to call it, pharmacoy.
Speaker 2: Pharmacoy is a very interesting Greek term because it actually
Speaker 2: means poison or therapeutics. It can be either, and that's
Speaker 2: exactly what it is. We've had two hundred years now
Speaker 2: of these injections, and as you said, as soon as
Speaker 2: they see that this one isn't working, you're not going
Speaker 2: to line up for the CV nineteen. They're going to
Speaker 2: have you line up for some other stuff. And it's
Speaker 2: going to be in the food. It's going to be
Speaker 2: in the injections, it's going to be in the animals
Speaker 2: that you're eating, all of that, and that's all happening
Speaker 2: now in spades, I assure you. And that's why we
Speaker 2: need to first and I don't say that this solves
Speaker 2: all of our problems, but first we need to come
Speaker 2: to terms with what being a human being is and
Speaker 2: do we want to be one. That's the second thing
Speaker 2: we need to answer, because a lot of young people
Speaker 2: are like, oh, right, I'm going to be enhanced, and
Speaker 2: you know, I can hardly wait for transhumanism. I was
Speaker 2: talking to a young man yesterday, in fact, who's on
Speaker 2: the road looking around, and I was in shock by
Speaker 2: some of his thoughts were, Wow, I had never even
Speaker 2: considered being that far out of not really appreciating what
Speaker 2: being human is. So to me, that's the important part
Speaker 2: is let's come to terms with that. And then the
Speaker 2: second part for me is I made very clear to people,
Speaker 2: don't concentrate on genetics. This is not about mRNA. I'm
Speaker 2: absolutely certain it is not about the mRNA and a
Speaker 2: genetic shift. It's about this ability to put an operating system,
Speaker 2: a computer operating system into the blood through these jebs
Speaker 2: and to program them either in SITSU after you already
Speaker 2: have it in you, or pre program it and put
Speaker 2: it in you so that then you can be brought
Speaker 2: on board for what's now being put out. And a
Speaker 2: lot of people can even grasp it self. Assembly synthetic
Speaker 2: biology and the synthetic biology had its start if you
Speaker 2: do some of the history on it, because in a way,
Speaker 2: it's sort of just sprang out of nowhere. And we're
Speaker 2: seeing the term synthetic biology. Synthetic biology. Well, it's an oxymoron,
Speaker 2: isn't it. I mean synthetic and bios not. So you
Speaker 2: can't do that that one is life and organic, the
Speaker 2: other is fake and man made. But they are producing
Speaker 2: patents that read what is it anti life? No, no,
Speaker 2: about things that are inorganic life. That's the patent inorganic life. Well,
Speaker 2: how can you have that? So they're changing the definitions
Speaker 2: and they want a different type of human being. One
Speaker 2: of the reasons I know they want one a different
Speaker 2: kind is because of the Van Allen Belts. Ever since
Speaker 2: the fake moonshot back in sixty nine, they have been
Speaker 2: agonizing not just that, but in the fifties they were
Speaker 2: blasting off atomic bombs up there, trying to blast a
Speaker 2: whole through the Van Allen Belts so that they could
Speaker 2: then go up into space spread their idea of being
Speaker 2: human all over the cosmos. Fortunately, they did not succeed
Speaker 2: in that, and they have not succeeded yet. So they
Speaker 2: have decided that they need a synthetic human being who
Speaker 2: can easily go through the radiation of those Ann Allen Belts,
Speaker 2: And that's definitely one of them. Because these as Catherine
Speaker 2: Austin Fits has made clear again and again, the secret
Speaker 2: space program is involved in this, and very involved, and
Speaker 2: the idea of getting up into space, not just with weapons,
Speaker 2: but exploring all of space and who knows what you know,
Speaker 2: the dreams of the secret societies. Because that's what I
Speaker 2: wanted to tell you is let me just list some
Speaker 2: of the things I go through in this book to
Speaker 2: clarify their role in all of this. There's what I
Speaker 2: love this term I don't know who made it up,
Speaker 2: but I love it. The Military Biomedical Security Complex, that's
Speaker 2: the new term, the military biomedical Security complex. And then
Speaker 2: there's nanos sin bio hive mind. That's the hive mind
Speaker 2: that's already happening. Most people think the same thoughts, and
Speaker 2: I really don't really think they're very individualistic. Then there's
Speaker 2: the geomagnetic grid under our feet, and there's a grid,
Speaker 2: a smart grid up in the sky, and I've seen
Speaker 2: photos people have taken with their cell phones where it
Speaker 2: really does look like a circuit board in our sky,
Speaker 2: but we can't see it. That's all. We can't see
Speaker 2: it with our eyes. It's using plasma. And then the
Speaker 2: next one is Stargate AI. That's a new one. And
Speaker 2: you may remember the second day Trump was in office,
Speaker 2: he announced behind it was standing behind the podium and
Speaker 2: he announced with the you know the three billionaires from
Speaker 2: from California, you know our famous valley there, and he
Speaker 2: announced the Stargate AI and I went, what Stargate AI?
Speaker 2: Do you remember? Are you old enough to remember Stargate
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy seven? Probably not.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen it. I've watched it. And you also
Speaker 1: have Stargate SG one, you know Stargate, those are the
Speaker 1: movies Stargate, and then you got the Psychic Spy program,
Speaker 1: the Stargate Project. Stargate.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the one. That's the one nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 2: And they have brought that name back because every time
Speaker 2: they use a name from the past, you know, they're
Speaker 2: triggering a resonance in your subconscious. They're sending it right
Speaker 2: into the subconscious that it's never by acre familiar.
Speaker 1: With something that you recognize and then it becomes a
Speaker 1: new thing. It's the same with the flying saucer narrative,
Speaker 1: Like flying saucer was a sport that predated Arnold sightings
Speaker 1: by decades. It was a sport of trap shooting and
Speaker 1: uh it would throw disc up in the air and
Speaker 1: then they would use it as target practices were called
Speaker 1: flying saucers. And then the military got ahold of that
Speaker 1: and during World War two and then co opted the
Speaker 1: entire term. And then the term became related to flying
Speaker 1: like actual alien spacecraft. So they do this all the
Speaker 1: time with different work, different phrases. Now I had a
Speaker 1: this might sound a little woo woo in uh crazy,
Speaker 1: but it's been something that I've thought about for a
Speaker 1: really long time that do you believe in reincarnation? Do
Speaker 1: you believe that we can come back and be other people?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah. My first experience of having been reincarnated was
Speaker 2: when I was eight years old. I was in the
Speaker 2: school library, the elementary school library. My teacher, because I
Speaker 2: was a precocious child, had given me the job to
Speaker 2: do the whole library and Dewey decimal, and I was
Speaker 2: thrilled with it because I was going through all the books.
Speaker 2: I'm eight or nine years old, and suddenly I see
Speaker 2: this book open, and I was an avid reader, and
Speaker 2: I go over to read it, and it's Plato's Allegory
Speaker 2: of the Cave. And I read it, and then I
Speaker 2: read it again, and right away in my mind up
Speaker 2: comes this idea that I knew the man who had
Speaker 2: written it. I had known him, and I didn't know
Speaker 2: he'd lived almost three thousand years ago. That did not
Speaker 2: cross my mind. I simply felt I had known him,
Speaker 2: and no one had ever talked about reincarnation to me.
Speaker 2: But I intuited that I've always intuited that my lifespan
Speaker 2: is not simply from birth here, that it's from somewhere else.
Speaker 2: And that it keeps going. And we have a very
Speaker 2: long lifespan, some of us longer than some other people,
Speaker 2: and so you know, it really doesn't matter. We're all
Speaker 2: at different phases. So yes, I absolutely know I've lived before.
Speaker 1: Do you think that maybe some of those technology and
Speaker 1: some of the grids, and you're talking about this stuff
Speaker 1: in the sky and we got the all these frequencies
Speaker 1: and all these power lines that are running through a
Speaker 1: large populated areas of the world, do you think that
Speaker 1: this could be some kind of prevention technique of someone
Speaker 1: maybe a soul or a spirit, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it, attempting to reincarnate back into this reality, like
Speaker 1: maybe someone that could actually help, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: or someone that could actually do something to you know,
Speaker 1: help our reality here. But they're being prevented because all
Speaker 1: this stuff that we got going on, and this grid thing,
Speaker 1: and this all in the electromagnetic fields that we got
Speaker 1: happening all over the place. Because there's a better way
Speaker 1: to do all of this stuff, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't need to have power lines. It's all over
Speaker 1: the entire freaking planet. Like, there's better ways to do
Speaker 1: all of this. So it seems like that it's there
Speaker 1: for a reason and they don't want to change it
Speaker 1: for a reason. And maybe some of this has to
Speaker 1: do with someone not being able to or someone or
Speaker 1: something that they don't want to enter into our reality.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's someone that is a Jesus type figure or
Speaker 1: some kind of ascended master or some kind of entity
Speaker 1: that could actually help and they don't want it to.
Speaker 1: And that might sound completely off base, it might sound crazy,
Speaker 1: but that's something that I've thought about.
Speaker 2: After me, no, I'm willing to consider all kinds of things,
Speaker 2: because certainly, Rudolf Steiner said that this era, the twenty
Speaker 2: first century, would belong to an entity he called Araman,
Speaker 2: and Araman is sort of a Persian version and Persia,
Speaker 2: as you know, is Iran today, but a Persian version
Speaker 2: of Satan. And the Steiner said that Araman would incarnate
Speaker 2: today and would certainly want all his machines around him.
Speaker 2: And that certainly is what appears to me is unfortunately
Speaker 2: not your not directly what you're saying as far as
Speaker 2: the good guy coming to save us, but it certainly
Speaker 2: has to do with the fact that I also believe,
Speaker 2: as Rudolf Steiner has said that the second Coming of
Speaker 2: Christ began in nineteen thirty two. According to the astrosophy,
Speaker 2: that's the Steiner people's word for astrology. The astrosophy done
Speaker 2: by a fellow named Robert Powell when he began looking
Speaker 2: at the a Jupiter pulse of twelve years and the
Speaker 2: different it's like a frequency, like a time frequency. Now
Speaker 2: you hear about this Saturn return, you've probably heard that, oh,
Speaker 2: you're going through your Saturn return. Well, that's every twenty
Speaker 2: eight years, because Saturn has a pulse rhythm of twenty
Speaker 2: eight years. Our moon has a pulse rhythm of twenty
Speaker 2: eight days. You know, everywhere you look, said Tesla. If
Speaker 2: you want to understand how the cosmosis put together, you
Speaker 2: must think in terms of vibration and frequency. There is
Speaker 2: no other way to look at it. So in that way,
Speaker 2: doesn't that fit with your thought form that you have?
Speaker 2: That Araman, this very contracted, sclerotic, mean spirited, negative spirit
Speaker 2: is incarnating at the same time as Christ who said
Speaker 2: in the New Testament that he would return one day,
Speaker 2: as disciples saw him going, and he was going up
Speaker 2: into the clouds. And I must admit I've thought of
Speaker 2: that many times, because of course I'm the cloud lady, right,
Speaker 2: I'm miss Geoengineering. I've been writing about this for twenty
Speaker 2: years now. I mean, it's amazing. I sometimes have to
Speaker 2: pinch myself that I really am doing this, but I
Speaker 2: understand it quite well. And where do I live. I
Speaker 2: live in Olympia, Washington, which is where the clouds are made,
Speaker 2: two hundred miles west off coast. They're made by the
Speaker 2: chemicals that are left by the chemp trails. They're made
Speaker 2: by various military bases and by the marine shipping industry
Speaker 2: and the US Navy, etc. So there's something of the
Speaker 2: truth in what your imagination has given you regarding why
Speaker 2: we would have all this equipment everywhere. And now we're
Speaker 2: living in a world which in which the atmosphere is
Speaker 2: entirely wirelessly wired, if you will, and this is certainly
Speaker 2: not good for Homo sapiens. We are not accustomed to
Speaker 2: this kind of this level of Even even if Egypt
Speaker 2: had extraordinary technology through the Pyramids and was able to
Speaker 2: have tremendous power that it could move from one place
Speaker 2: to another, it wasn't the entire planet that is now
Speaker 2: completely wired wirelessly. And so we have to again engage
Speaker 2: our imagination because science has stripped science. It didn't used
Speaker 2: to be this way when, not with Kepler, not with Copernicus,
Speaker 2: not with Newton, we didn't have scientists who were just
Speaker 2: like square cookies, who couldn't think their way out of
Speaker 2: a paper bag when it had to do with spiritual things.
Speaker 2: So they just got rid of it. No, that's that's
Speaker 2: only today that that's happening, that we have the singularity
Speaker 2: and h and all of that. Uh, it's it's uh,
Speaker 2: it's an aramonic science that we have today. Uh. And
Speaker 2: the only reason that Steinert chose the the Araman term
Speaker 2: is that there's another side to the evil that he portrayed,
Speaker 2: and that's the lucifer side, the angel of light that fell.
Speaker 2: And then the Araman is the Persian version of the
Speaker 2: of a of another angel, actually an arch angel who fell.
Speaker 2: So you have these these two sides. One is expansive,
Speaker 2: one is contractive, one is imaginative, one is sclerotic and mathematical. Uh.
Speaker 2: So you know this idea that these two parts of
Speaker 2: evil are here, according to Rudolf Steiner, to kind of
Speaker 2: make us get off our bum and get to work
Speaker 2: on our evolution as spiritual beings and so we have
Speaker 2: this constant temptation. Some people have it extraordinarily strong, some
Speaker 2: people have it very weak. Some people decide for the
Speaker 2: luciferic or the luciferian, as we we see with some
Speaker 2: of the Satanists uh and uh, and the others are
Speaker 2: the the aramonic. So these are these are just two
Speaker 2: concepts that he introduced and tried to introduce into culture,
Speaker 2: into Western culture, but was shut down over and over
Speaker 2: and over again because they wanted to keep it as materialism,
Speaker 2: because materialism is a much easier mindset to control. In
Speaker 2: other words, if you can't experience it with the five
Speaker 2: senses and you can't create a mathematical problem from it,
Speaker 2: well then it doesn't exist. And that is not at
Speaker 2: all how the elites think that's for. That's chaff for
Speaker 2: the masses. They themselves know better. They know there's an
Speaker 2: existence of a supreme being. They know that the universe
Speaker 2: is alive. They know that ether that they banned in
Speaker 2: the nineteen twenties really exists and creates the very bedrock
Speaker 2: of plasma. They took all that away from us, all
Speaker 2: that away from us. But they themselves have scientists who
Speaker 2: work for them, and they're called the what's that I
Speaker 2: can't remember? Right now, these scientists are able to get
Speaker 2: the creme de la creme of everything they need in
Speaker 2: order to redo the science of the past. I thought
Speaker 2: you were going to bring up Atlantis, because of course
Speaker 2: I'm completely haunted by how much now with I have
Speaker 2: this great knowledge of harp, you know, the high frequency
Speaker 2: act of a rural research project, how it works, and
Speaker 2: how it works, the ionospheric heater's work, now that we
Speaker 2: control the ionosphere, and I've got this big picture and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this is like a book I read
Speaker 2: by Donnelly on Atlantis and the science that they had then.
Speaker 2: It looks very familiar. And then they had a huge flood, right,
Speaker 2: every people in the world practically has a mythology of
Speaker 2: the huge flood. And we did have a huge flood.
Speaker 2: I don't know that it covered the entire Earth, but
Speaker 2: it certainly eradicated the entire Atlantis, which was a very
Speaker 2: large continent that pretty much took up the entire Atlantic Ocean. Uh.
Speaker 2: And so you know, these things all need to be
Speaker 2: now that we know the experts lie to us, we know,
Speaker 2: don't we folks? Now that we know we're lied to,
Speaker 2: we need to go over everything again. We need to
Speaker 2: take a really close look at this stuff and see
Speaker 2: is this really a myth? Myth that's going on? Like recently,
Speaker 2: besides the things you've mentioned that are being brought forward,
Speaker 2: there's this, Uh, these buildings in America that are so
Speaker 2: extraordinarily built, did they come from a previous civilization that
Speaker 2: we haven't been told about?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: Probably, you know, we've been here millions of years. The
Speaker 2: human being has been being brought up, up up up,
Speaker 2: and the lies of the of the ones who seek
Speaker 2: to control the entire plant it are just endless, just endless.
Speaker 2: So it's it's just all the more reason to learn
Speaker 2: to think again, learn to read again, because reading is
Speaker 2: a very different process than watching video, right, So we
Speaker 2: need that too, And and to really decide how we're
Speaker 2: going to be human and what we're going to allow,
Speaker 2: at least into our own domicile. And and that's what
Speaker 2: I tell people in the book. The very first thing
Speaker 2: is lower your electromagnetic footprint. Lower it as low as
Speaker 2: you can get it. Like for me, I don't own
Speaker 2: a cell phone, never have no TV, never have I
Speaker 2: have my computer, my handy little laptop here and my printer,
Speaker 2: but I pretty much that's about and then the electric lights,
Speaker 2: and then I have an old refrigerator and an old stove.
Speaker 2: No Internet of things for me, because as you know,
Speaker 2: they are constantly talking to each other. So don't buy
Speaker 2: anything new. I have a drive a two thousand and
Speaker 2: one Honda. You know, you've got to lower the computers
Speaker 2: around you in the new cars. There's up to four
Speaker 2: hundred in every fancy car, so you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: like we've lived on the surface like children in America
Speaker 2: with all our wealth, and we've had cheap, cheap commodities
Speaker 2: coming from China, and now now things are getting rather
Speaker 2: dire and we're going to have to make some hard decisions.
Speaker 2: And and that's that's what I'm That's what I'm for
Speaker 2: because I don't mind that. I don't I'm not thrown
Speaker 2: by challenges like this where we have a big pharma
Speaker 2: which is the largest lobbyist in Washington, d C. There
Speaker 2: is yes larger than the Jewish, you know, so we
Speaker 2: really need to put our thinking caps on. And that's
Speaker 2: why I'll mention here I don't have a website right now.
Speaker 2: I was terribly hacked a couple of years ago and
Speaker 2: it went down. But I do have a Patrion site
Speaker 2: and I comment on a lot of issues that are
Speaker 2: sent to me every day to help people learn to think.
Speaker 1: Well. I think that the problem is is that people
Speaker 1: think that they need this stuff because if they don't
Speaker 1: have it, then they're going to be at a disadvantage. Right,
Speaker 1: That's how a lot of the stuff worked. That's how
Speaker 1: the AI stuff worked. People seeing people using AI and
Speaker 1: they were like, all right, well these people are using it,
Speaker 1: then I it's kind of like a follow the leader
Speaker 1: type of scenario going on there. But I want to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on what do you think is going
Speaker 1: to be inhabiting these robots, because I think that a
Speaker 1: really important aspect of being human and this isn't the
Speaker 1: only thing that I think, but I think that it's
Speaker 1: a very important one, is that being human allows you
Speaker 1: to have a purpose. And I think that AI, with
Speaker 1: an AI humanoid robot, they can have understanding. But I
Speaker 1: don't believe at this point that they can take on
Speaker 1: a purpose. They can't take on a meaning. They can't
Speaker 1: take on the things that drives us to continue and
Speaker 1: to continue to move forward. They can't get inspiration to
Speaker 1: do things because they're not a bio logical entity. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the most important thing about being human
Speaker 1: is that you can you have the ability to create
Speaker 1: your own meaning and your own purpose. Like we can
Speaker 1: do that, Like we can wake up in the morning
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, like this is the thing that's
Speaker 1: driving me to continue on. Even though everything around me
Speaker 1: that's going on in the world might look like dog shit.
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter because I have my singular purpose and
Speaker 1: I know what i'm here, what I'm supposed to do here,
Speaker 1: and what I'm supposed to be doing, you know, regardless
Speaker 1: of what it is. And a lot of people find
Speaker 1: meaning in their job and in their work, and not
Speaker 1: knocking that. I think that if that's what your purpose
Speaker 1: and what your meaning is, then more power to you.
Speaker 1: But a lot of those people tend to, you know,
Speaker 1: feel like that they're missing something in their life, because
Speaker 1: if that's all life is supposed to be about, is
Speaker 1: you know, going to work for somebody else and you know,
Speaker 1: pay your taxes and then come home and go to
Speaker 1: sleep and eat and shower and then you know, go
Speaker 1: to sleep and wake up and do the same thing.
Speaker 1: That becomes a really repetitive process. And you kind of
Speaker 1: lose meaning and doing that. So I think that it's
Speaker 1: important for people to find other meaning in their life,
Speaker 1: you know, create your own business, do your own thing,
Speaker 1: find that driving force even though things seem like that
Speaker 1: they're not good. You need to find that motivation and
Speaker 1: that meaning to continue to keep going on and on
Speaker 1: and on and on. And I think that that is
Speaker 1: the most important part of being human. But again, if
Speaker 1: the robot humanoids don't have that inside of them, then
Speaker 1: they that means that they lack meaning and purpose. That
Speaker 1: means that they're programmed to do one singular thing, one
Speaker 1: singular objective. And this might actually go back to the
Speaker 1: Anonaki and the ancient Sumerians, you know, like it was,
Speaker 1: you know, according to zach Ryce Sitchen, which you don't
Speaker 1: have to believe him, or maybe his translations were wrong,
Speaker 1: or he didn't even translate any of it. He was
Speaker 1: just taking information. But I'm just going off of the
Speaker 1: base understanding here is that these group of entities created
Speaker 1: us to be workers, you know, the worker entities. They
Speaker 1: essentially created us as robots, right, and that kind of
Speaker 1: seems like what might be happening now is that they
Speaker 1: want actual robots being robots to do the stuff so
Speaker 1: that they don't have to do it, because we have
Speaker 1: consciousness and we can make a big difference. And just
Speaker 1: just by doing this video right now, just by doing
Speaker 1: this with me and you, we could be impacting a
Speaker 1: lot of different people simultaneously. But if you're a robot,
Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of big impact are you really
Speaker 1: going to have? If there's nothing behind that, if there's
Speaker 1: no purpose behind that, then you're not going to have
Speaker 1: an impact. I don't know if that was That's probably
Speaker 1: a really long winded explanation.
Speaker 2: But no, no, no, I get it. Okay, So again
Speaker 2: calling to mind that we need a different kind of
Speaker 2: thinking than the one that created the problem we're in
Speaker 2: now in order to solve the problem, I turn again
Speaker 2: to the idea which is very old, much older than America,
Speaker 2: much older than you and I, that there is a
Speaker 2: spiritual component to life itself, to life itself, to the planet.
Speaker 2: You put a seed in the ground, no matter where
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, maybe in the sandy desert it's not
Speaker 2: going to grow too well. But basically, wherever you put
Speaker 2: that seed, it's going to grow. What are the life
Speaker 2: forces in the planet that give life to plants on
Speaker 2: a very simple level. Well, that's part of the spirit.
Speaker 2: The spirit. I've had several out of body experiences with
Speaker 2: no drugs, no nothing, but my consciousness is very conscious.
Speaker 2: And I'm zooming through space, and I'm passing the moon,
Speaker 2: and that's how I know the moon is round. By
Speaker 2: the way is I passed the moon and it was round.
Speaker 2: And I'm going up into deep space. And I get
Speaker 2: up into deep space. And the deeper I go, the
Speaker 2: slower I go, because now I'm in real matter, real
Speaker 2: matter that is slowing me down, but not in an
Speaker 2: unfriendly way. It's like I was diving into chocolate pudding.
Speaker 2: That's the way I've put it. It was like I
Speaker 2: was just the silky, sweet, wonderful chocolate pudding of the cosmos.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I just loved it. I loved it
Speaker 2: so much that I had the thought that maybe I
Speaker 2: wouldn't come back. As soon as I had that thought, zoom,
Speaker 2: I'm down back, hovering outside the window where I can
Speaker 2: see myself sleeping on the other side of the window.
Speaker 2: And then I look up and I right away my
Speaker 2: desire up. I go again. So I did it five, six,
Speaker 2: seven times. I don't know I was really a little piggy.
Speaker 2: But the last time, as I'm sliding into that chocolate
Speaker 2: pudding cosmos, I realized it was all love. It was
Speaker 2: all love, and I just I just couldn't get over it.
Speaker 2: Of how much strife and pain we go through here
Speaker 2: on planet Earth. But the cosmos, it said, itself, is
Speaker 2: just filled with love. I mean, it is love. It's
Speaker 2: the it's the real love. And uh.
Speaker 3: And it was since I had that experience that I
Speaker 3: now know that if you don't have some sort of
Speaker 3: spiritual inner life, I don't I really don't care.
Speaker 2: I don't think your work, unless your work is some
Speaker 2: fantastic thing that's helping thousands of people, I don't think
Speaker 2: that's enough. I think you have to have an inner
Speaker 2: life wherein you know that the human spirit is divine
Speaker 2: and and that you you want to serve humanity in
Speaker 2: the best way possible, and you then it sort of
Speaker 2: automatically resets your priorities and how you're put together, and
Speaker 2: then you go from that. But if you don't have that,
Speaker 2: let's say you don't have it, but you're searching for it,
Speaker 2: well that that counts a little bit. That you're searching
Speaker 2: for it. You're searching for that in our life, and
Speaker 2: you don't want you don't want to be a Catholic,
Speaker 2: you don't want to be a Jew, you don't want
Speaker 2: to be a You know, it's not about that. It's
Speaker 2: a it's a it's a substance. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: that substance like chocolate pudding that I experience. It's a substance.
Speaker 2: But if you sell that and you turn that faucet
Speaker 2: off inside you like there is no God, there is
Speaker 2: no spirit. This is just the way it is. This
Speaker 2: is how it is. I promise you this something will
Speaker 2: move into your humanity and take it over, and you
Speaker 2: will become robotic. There is no question. So I can
Speaker 2: say the same thing about the robots. You make an image,
Speaker 2: it's very much like the golum, right. The stories of
Speaker 2: the golum or the homunculus is another one. We have
Speaker 2: lots of stories about making a human image, making something
Speaker 2: into the image of a human. But then something must
Speaker 2: be moving into it that is not human and therefore
Speaker 2: will not have the meaning you're talking about. Its meaning
Speaker 2: will be perverted in some way. Its meaning will be
Speaker 2: it will be a collective species being that is obeying
Speaker 2: commands from wherever they come from. And that's that to me,
Speaker 2: is what I see in a lot of people, particularly
Speaker 2: in men. Maybe it's that I'm female and I can
Speaker 2: I'm more sensitive to it. In males, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It certainly can happen in females, don't. I certainly know that.
Speaker 2: But I see this being so practical. And you know,
Speaker 2: you want to have a great career, want to have
Speaker 2: this and that, and and that manhood is somehow now
Speaker 2: defined as succeeding in that and having the stuff in
Speaker 2: having the means. But that means for what? What? What
Speaker 2: are you? What is your substance? What is your center?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Where is that spiritual being? In that manhood? Uh? And
Speaker 2: that that cannot be lost, that, I mean, you must
Speaker 2: not lose that, you must hold that as so. And
Speaker 2: the book that comes right to mind Victor frankels Man
Speaker 2: Search for Meaning. There is no better book about this.
Speaker 2: He's in the concentration camp in Germany or Poland or
Speaker 2: wherever it was, and he says again and again in
Speaker 2: the book, the best of us did not survive. The
Speaker 2: very best people who died were truly human. But he
Speaker 2: cut deals in order to survive. And he really looks
Speaker 2: deeply at that, because the book is entirely about man
Speaker 2: search for meaning. And gosh, I read that book three
Speaker 2: times and gave five or six copies away years and
Speaker 2: decades ago. Fantastic book and cuts right to the core.
Speaker 2: So to me, the greatest thing to watch out for
Speaker 2: in life is that you give so much of your
Speaker 2: humanity up for your career, or or you're in love
Speaker 2: with a criminal, or you know, whatever it is, that
Speaker 2: you now have something move into you and take you
Speaker 2: over by increments over time that is not human. And
Speaker 2: there are beings who are not human are very intelligent.
Speaker 2: These are aramonic beings, these are luciferic beings, and they're everywhere.
Speaker 2: They're all over the place. Now I tend to blame
Speaker 2: I blame Cern. In the book you have under an
Speaker 2: I and I Sky in the chapter on Cern, I
Speaker 2: call it the well it's it's absert as a religion.
Speaker 2: And I look at that of what happened there and
Speaker 2: what is still happening there, and you know, we have
Speaker 2: to expand our ability to think and not just do.
Speaker 2: Renee Descartes, this is not just about logic. This is
Speaker 2: about components of intelligence that are all involved in this
Speaker 2: great drama going on now of good versus evil. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you could call it that, but it's also the Yeah,
Speaker 2: the natural versus the synthetic. I mean that one's the
Speaker 2: one that's really got me writing so much. So did
Speaker 2: that answer your question or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. The seem I have this idea
Speaker 1: of like walk ins too. I think that it is possible,
Speaker 1: not only reincarnation as possible, but I think a walk
Speaker 1: in soul is also possible, and that could be done
Speaker 1: through a traumatic event or right. Really, where I got
Speaker 1: the the idea that maybe they're trying to prevent something
Speaker 1: from coming in, or they're trying to make it to
Speaker 1: where like you were mentioning that this harmonic force to
Speaker 1: be able to come in. I think that it can
Speaker 1: go both ways. But where I got that idea from
Speaker 1: was through people that, you know, some of the classic
Speaker 1: versions of you know, reincarnation, they tend to come from
Speaker 1: places that don't have all of this stuff going on, right.
Speaker 1: It comes from a lot of Middle Eastern places, It
Speaker 1: comes from a lot of places in India. I mean
Speaker 1: one of the uh you know, quote unquote most studied
Speaker 1: cases was of this person in the Middle East that
Speaker 1: you know, claimed that you know that she was going
Speaker 1: to die, and she'd been really ill for like a
Speaker 1: pasc like a week or so, and then she would
Speaker 1: have like these in and out of like consciousness states
Speaker 1: where she would just freeze up and she wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to move, and her husband was like, you know,
Speaker 1: what's going on here? And then one of the times
Speaker 1: she froze up and she was like I'm going and
Speaker 1: she uttered out of her mouth that I'm going to
Speaker 1: die today, and then she ended up dying. And then
Speaker 1: I think it was like six or seven eight. The
Speaker 1: coroner came and checked on her and they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: she's dead. You know, she doesn't have a pulse, she's
Speaker 1: not breathing. And then later on she came back to life.
Speaker 1: But whenever she came back to life, she was another individual.
Speaker 1: She was not that same person. And it turned out
Speaker 1: that this person that had been murdered that was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, forty to fifty miles away. So whenever
Speaker 1: that person got murdered, that soul went over into her
Speaker 1: body and then it started inhabiting her body, and she
Speaker 1: was so confused when she was there. She was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know any of these people. She was like
Speaker 1: confused about her husband, but it turned out that she
Speaker 1: got in contact with her family, and her family came
Speaker 1: to visit her, and then she remembered all this stuff
Speaker 1: and knew who her husband was and who her father
Speaker 1: was and all this, and then it turned out that
Speaker 1: it was her her her sister in law or her
Speaker 1: brother in law that ended up killing her in this.
Speaker 1: But she ended up living the rest of her life
Speaker 1: as this other person. But when it wasn't really it's
Speaker 1: like just this insane type of yeah thing, But I
Speaker 1: feel like that was like a type of walking spirit.
Speaker 1: But I do believe that that can be accomplished through
Speaker 1: traumatic events too, and they can bring something that's even
Speaker 1: more negative, a more negative spirit, and replace your spirit
Speaker 1: through that traumatization. And that might have been some of
Speaker 1: like what the mk ultra stuff is about. And then
Speaker 1: you get into what what are they putting inside of
Speaker 1: these roboties like this. I don't know if you saw this,
Speaker 1: but it was this Buddhist monk that did an entity
Speaker 1: robot took vowels to be a Buddhist monk. Here eanoid
Speaker 1: robots takes vowels to become Buddhist monk. The era of
Speaker 1: robots have arrived, and this is a real thing. This
Speaker 1: is the robot right here in front of all this,
Speaker 1: this Buddhist monk taking its vowels to be uh so,
Speaker 1: like what's inside of this? Like? I don't know what?
Speaker 1: That's how you comprehend that as.
Speaker 2: Long as you keep in mind that they are going
Speaker 2: they being the globalists, and they are all pretty much
Speaker 2: esotericis uh. Their top globalists are probably occultists with considerable powers.
Speaker 2: These are these are secret societies. Uh. And that's what
Speaker 2: I didn't That was the last thing I didn't name
Speaker 2: after we started talking about Stargate Aii is that in
Speaker 2: this book I have just written that is now undergoing editing,
Speaker 2: I talk considerably about the role of secret societies which
Speaker 2: most people have no idea, the power exercised by these
Speaker 2: secret societies. We know about the Freemasons, we may know
Speaker 2: about the Knights of Malta, we may know about we
Speaker 2: heard the terms Rosicrucians, even even even the Cia. I
Speaker 2: would I would, I would posit that they are a
Speaker 2: secret society, a very extraordinary, extraordinarily powerful secret society, and
Speaker 2: they have access to a lot of things that you
Speaker 2: and I will never have access to, so uh with
Speaker 2: as long as you keep that in mind, that you
Speaker 2: can you can then see. But be careful of the
Speaker 2: child in you. And we all have a child in
Speaker 2: us that that wonderful inner child that that Carl Jung
Speaker 2: told us never really grows up. That child will believe
Speaker 2: in what it sees as being gospel as being true,
Speaker 2: and certainly the that is true with the anything Asian. Uh,
Speaker 2: the Westerner is pretty much blind to seeing, but the
Speaker 2: Westerner is also blind to seeing their own problems in
Speaker 2: Western powermongers. So uh, yes, they will do. They're gonna
Speaker 2: make robots and then they're going to possibly have some
Speaker 2: black magic esoteric knowledge of how they can invite or
Speaker 2: be attractive to various beings that are not burdened by
Speaker 2: physical bodies like we are, but have maybe plasma maybe
Speaker 2: some plasma bodies, and they will uh maybe enter these robots.
Speaker 2: Maybe they have they already have the program that they
Speaker 2: have infused into these robots that have very very careful
Speaker 2: delineations of the being that they want to live in
Speaker 2: that robot. I mean, that's that's a separate thing from
Speaker 2: the transhumanism, but it definitely do you see how it
Speaker 2: can distract you from the extremely worrisome things that are
Speaker 2: going on with for example, all the things that are
Speaker 2: in the CV nineteen. The serums there are amazing. They're
Speaker 2: gonna be able to self assembly, self assemble our nervous system.
Speaker 2: It's going to take the place of the nervous system
Speaker 2: we have now. They're going to self assemble our blood system.
Speaker 2: They're gonna take the place of our veins and our
Speaker 2: arteries so that they're all synthetic, and the brain as
Speaker 2: well will not be one day. They're in the process.
Speaker 2: Now these are the very early days. It's going to
Speaker 2: take them a long time to actually replace the entire
Speaker 2: human being Homo sapiens, with these synthetic ingredients. And meanwhile
Speaker 2: they will be constantly up the schools, keeping up the
Speaker 2: TV stuff that you know everybody's taking in. It'll go
Speaker 2: everything will go on, but it will be an entirely
Speaker 2: different program going on internal to the physical body. The
Speaker 2: physical body is what they're concentrating on. But the physical
Speaker 2: body is not just physical, it's etheric, it's astral. It
Speaker 2: has capabilities that we have barely tapped in all these
Speaker 2: power struggles that go on on the Earth. In each
Speaker 2: incarnation that we come back into. We have to, we
Speaker 2: have to deal with all of that. And now they
Speaker 2: have begun this process of replacing our bodies, which are
Speaker 2: to me God given nature given. However you want to
Speaker 2: look at it. Uh, and I do not. I do
Speaker 2: not think. And this may concern you as it does me.
Speaker 2: I do not think that we will be able to
Speaker 2: reincarnate anymore. If they succeed in these this transhuman that
Speaker 2: they are attempting to bring into being, we won't be
Speaker 2: able to get into those bodies. We won't be able
Speaker 2: to because we're spiritual beings. We are we are, we
Speaker 2: are for that body, just as that body is for
Speaker 2: the planet Earth. We have been merged with the planet
Speaker 2: Earth for millions of years, and now they're changing the planet,
Speaker 2: They're changing us.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, these are these are not good people by
Speaker 2: any means. And I don't know that they're people anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're human anymore. I highly doubt it.
Speaker 2: What would they be, Well, they would be entities. Uh.
Speaker 2: There's a term used in in uh esoterica and on
Speaker 2: the occult, Uh, that they will be these Uh. Why
Speaker 2: am I blocking that? I'm I'm blocking a name. Uh,
Speaker 2: but we uh, we have to change our thoughts. We
Speaker 2: can't be materialists anymore or we're going to miss the
Speaker 2: theme of what's going on and we're not going to
Speaker 2: recognize what's being done to us. We have got to
Speaker 2: learn more about the spiritual. And I don't mean one
Speaker 2: religion or another. I mean spiritual concepts. They're they're all
Speaker 2: over the place, and Rudolph Steiner to me, is very
Speaker 2: They don't try to sell their their pitch. They don't,
Speaker 2: they hardly are, hardly anyone knows about them. These are
Speaker 2: are good concepts that you can use to empower yourself
Speaker 2: and live out of the spiritual you more than out
Speaker 2: of the physical and psychological you. That's that's that's how.
Speaker 2: That's the road I'm taking anyway. And so far, so
Speaker 2: good for me because I have I have been able
Speaker 2: to do a lot that I originally that I came
Speaker 2: to do, and at first I was in dire, dire
Speaker 2: straits because I had a very difficult family life. My
Speaker 2: father was unfortunately a scientist, an inorganic chemist for Navy intelligence,
Speaker 2: and was working on some of the very projects probably
Speaker 2: that I'm attempting to expose, and he was a very
Speaker 2: sick man, and they had done things to him. I
Speaker 2: think he was an mkay ultra early one, an early one,
Speaker 2: and so I basically had no father. But I now
Speaker 2: have been doing all this work on myself, particularly on
Speaker 2: incest and things that happen in incest, which is you know,
Speaker 2: it's different from MK Ultra because in MK Ultra they're
Speaker 2: using machines in incest, the spirit of incest takes over
Speaker 2: and you end up being in a sort of sort
Speaker 2: of a locked position. And I did, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: B minus C plus work on that. I don't think
Speaker 2: I really nailed it, but I did enough that I
Speaker 2: was healthy again. And I never hated my father because
Speaker 2: he himself had been so abused as a boy and
Speaker 2: then was abused by the navy. I'm sure of it.
Speaker 2: With MK Ultra, so you know, you get the life
Speaker 2: you need. You don't know much about that life, but
Speaker 2: the deeper you go into things of your time and
Speaker 2: your world, you may meet your own biography and what
Speaker 2: it means, what it has always meant that you are
Speaker 2: here and that you are doing the work you do.
Speaker 2: It's just phenomenal to me how intelligent this universe is.
Speaker 2: So intelligent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree absolutely. I mean, and we know in
Speaker 1: SS there is a part of MK ulture in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways. I mean, Kathy O'Brien talks about that,
Speaker 1: how she was abused by her father before she was
Speaker 1: ever put into the programs. Several people have talked about that,
Speaker 1: how they were abused by family members before they were
Speaker 1: putting they were sold into the CIA's program. So there's
Speaker 1: definitely a connection there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yep, unfortunately.
Speaker 1: But so where what do you think is h This
Speaker 1: would be my final question or comment for you. Where
Speaker 1: do you think that we're going in the next four years?
Speaker 1: Do you think that this is going to be a
Speaker 1: complete takeover because we have Elon Musk talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: on Joe Rogan saying, oh, well, in the next four years,
Speaker 1: you know, robots are essentially going to take over. There's
Speaker 1: not going to be a retirement anymore. Is where we're
Speaker 1: going to have this high based uh what is that
Speaker 1: basic income or whatever? I forget what he calls it.
Speaker 1: What's that universal high basic universal income where everyone is
Speaker 1: going to be paid a check by the government, especially
Speaker 1: basically that hush up check, just like how everyone was
Speaker 1: paid by unemployment during twenty twenty. You know, be quiet,
Speaker 1: keep this, keep this whole thing going. We're paying you.
Speaker 1: You know where your money's coming from, right now, don't
Speaker 1: make a big rockuss about this. And everyone just kind
Speaker 1: of well a lot of people, not everyone, but a
Speaker 1: lot of them just kind of fell in line there.
Speaker 1: So do you think that it's going to move and
Speaker 1: operate that quickly? Oh?
Speaker 2: I think things are moving really fast. But again, it's
Speaker 2: kind of like if you knew that in four years
Speaker 2: you were going to end up in a concentration camp,
Speaker 2: what would you do differently? Now? If you had knew
Speaker 2: you only had four years, you have four years. That's
Speaker 2: kind of how I look at it. It's like, because
Speaker 2: I know there is a supreme intelligence in this universe
Speaker 2: that many people call God, it is simply there as
Speaker 2: our as a way, like a lighthouse, certainly for the
Speaker 2: ships in the storm, which is us, but we are
Speaker 2: we are also provided nourishment if we have an inner life.
Speaker 2: I'm back to that. If you don't have an inner life,
Speaker 2: you're basically casting away the food that has provided you
Speaker 2: by life itself to live through this with honor and
Speaker 2: all good things. I mean, how you are We all
Speaker 2: know we're going to die. Right, we know we're going
Speaker 2: to die someday. Everybody has died. I know that transhumanism
Speaker 2: is promising that you don't have to die, and you'll live,
Speaker 2: you'll be immortal and all that. Bs there's a part
Speaker 2: of this fear of day. Yes, I guess I don't understand.
Speaker 2: I did die when I was twenty two in a
Speaker 2: wave at Makapu on Oahu, and it was a tremendous
Speaker 2: experience because I really did die and I couldn't find
Speaker 2: the top of the water. I drowned. And then I
Speaker 2: was shooting down this tunnel. And I hadn't read the
Speaker 2: book by Raymond Moody yet, which is all about people's
Speaker 2: experiences of dying on operating tables and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: But I shot down that tunnel. I must have been
Speaker 2: going like a thousand miles an hour. I was really speeding,
Speaker 2: and I could see a beautiful light at the end
Speaker 2: of the tunnel, and I was getting inwardly excited that
Speaker 2: I was heading for this beautiful light because I knew
Speaker 2: it was home. And I knew in that moment that
Speaker 2: the earth is not my home, but it's where I
Speaker 2: come to learn. I've been here many times and I
Speaker 2: love the Earth, I love it deeply. But I am
Speaker 2: not from here. I live in a body that belongs
Speaker 2: to this planet, that belongs to this dimension. But I
Speaker 2: am not Ilana, nor am I this body. And I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, I'm going home. Great. And then suddenly,
Speaker 2: as soon as I said great, I'm going backward. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, I don't want to go back.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go back. Well I did go back.
Speaker 2: I ended up on the beach. I don't know how
Speaker 2: I went from being sort of lost and tumbled into
Speaker 2: the bay and ended up on the beach, but I did.
Speaker 2: I had ripped the skin off the front of my
Speaker 2: about an inch of skin. My bikini was in shreds
Speaker 2: all the way down to my pubic bone. It looked
Speaker 2: and it was bloody. It looked like I had had
Speaker 2: hit actually hit the bottom. I don't know how I
Speaker 2: didn't break my back. I mean, how do you do
Speaker 2: that and not break your back? So there were a
Speaker 2: lot of mysteries to it, and I was depressed for
Speaker 2: a couple of days that I came back, until I realized, yeah,
Speaker 2: only twenty two, I've got a lot of I got
Speaker 2: to take care of business here. We've got a lot
Speaker 2: to do and uh, and it changed me. So I
Speaker 2: think death is a definite change. But I don't I
Speaker 2: don't notice that I have any fear of death. I
Speaker 2: think that it's a little shaky, maybe the transition and
Speaker 2: to be prepared for that. But as far as four years, Okay,
Speaker 2: you've got four years, so get busy. I mean, why
Speaker 2: not take that? I do? I think Elon Musk tells
Speaker 2: the truth all the time. No, he's an elite, he's
Speaker 2: an mk ultra. As a matter of fact, I've known
Speaker 2: someone who was programmed with him, so you know he's
Speaker 2: doing the best he can given that he doesn't really
Speaker 2: own his life. And if you want to take four years,
Speaker 2: fine whatever, but it's not going to change how I
Speaker 2: do things. That it's four years instead of forty, it's
Speaker 2: not going to change it.
Speaker 1: That is a great way to look at it. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for coming on. I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: This evening always fascinating having you on. You're welcome back anytime.
Speaker 1: Can you let people know where to find you? You
Speaker 1: said that you don't have a website right now, but
Speaker 1: where will they be able to find your book? Whenever?
Speaker 1: It gets released.
Speaker 2: Well, the book is being put out by Inner Traditions,
Speaker 2: so you should be able given they have worldwide distribution,
Speaker 2: you should be able to just go to any bookstore
Speaker 2: near your house and order the book so you know
Speaker 2: you can find it. It'll be on Amazon, of course,
Speaker 2: evil Amazon. And I comment daily at my Patreon site
Speaker 2: on various things because I'm convinced that people are not
Speaker 2: having the guidance that they deserve. They need guidance, and
Speaker 2: I've lived seventy eight years now and i want to
Speaker 2: help them to see into some of these things, and
Speaker 2: so I comment on whatever is coming into my desktop.
Speaker 2: I'm not out looking at for anything, really. I will
Speaker 2: be now helping Clifford Carnicum, the independent scientists I've worked
Speaker 2: with for years, write his autobiographical story of what happened,
Speaker 2: what has happened during these twenty five years of his pains,
Speaker 2: taking work with no recognition and a huge effort to
Speaker 2: make it so the public does not even know he exists.
Speaker 2: We're going to tell that story, and I hope more
Speaker 2: people will tell their story about the same thing, because
Speaker 2: it has been since the CIA took over this country.
Speaker 2: With the death of President John Kennedy, and I mean
Speaker 2: that I think our country is entirely run by the CIA.
Speaker 2: Then you know we haven't really, we haven't really had
Speaker 2: things be very honest ever since. And now, more than anything,
Speaker 2: we need honesty. We need to tell the truth and
Speaker 2: have a true story. Despite whatever the corporate media are saying,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. I don't pay any attention to them,
Speaker 2: but to to fill in the gaps of the lies.
Speaker 2: And that's how we'll take our power back.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Alana really appreciate it. The links
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