Speaker 1: I heard McGee nicknames, but never hot take McGee.
Speaker 2: Like in the movie Big Daddy, when when he called uh,
Speaker 2: he called Leslie Mann's character Tits McGee or was it
Speaker 2: big Boobs.
Speaker 1: McGee was like that, Yes, I've been called both of
Speaker 1: those nicknames.
Speaker 2: So you've been called that's that's what you know.
Speaker 3: Tony he goes naked City all the time. Yeah, Tony
Speaker 3: worked at nine steakhouts, and he would come see me
Speaker 3: at uh the Rojo Lounge inside the Palm's Place in
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight when they were my only customers
Speaker 3: when they would get off work.
Speaker 1: Uh, he would call me Tits McGee because he could
Speaker 1: never think I.
Speaker 2: Think that's from Anchorman. I think that's from Anchorman. They
Speaker 2: go with your hosts Ron Burgundy and Tits McGee character.
Speaker 1: Ever, I I, I don't follow movies, don't give me
Speaker 1: movie quotes.
Speaker 2: Are you allowed to say tits on this show? It
Speaker 2: seems like a no. I would imagine.
Speaker 1: I think I'm allowed to say whatever, right.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've been doing that for the last couple of years
Speaker 3: and we haven't been canceled yet, so.
Speaker 2: That I feel about that, you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: how I feel about saying tits McGee and I've said
Speaker 2: it like ten times.
Speaker 1: You sound like.
Speaker 2: It doesn't see what. It doesn't seem appropriate, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? I don't know. I'll let the I've
Speaker 2: never watched not.
Speaker 3: Being sponsored by the golf course today, so I think
Speaker 3: we can say whatever we want. That's the only time
Speaker 3: we've ever been censored on the show when the country
Speaker 3: club's like, hey, please don't say fuck eighty two times
Speaker 3: in the sponsored episode thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a mistake with.
Speaker 3: Jay to day since we since we got a new
Speaker 3: he's out at the Las biggest country club, but he
Speaker 3: is still a Case State fan, so he and I've
Speaker 3: been going back and forth. I got a text last
Speaker 3: night that Colin Klein was going to be the new
Speaker 3: head football coach at Case State, and everybody.
Speaker 2: Was Colin, say that again. Colin Kline is the new
Speaker 2: head football coach at Case State? Yeah? Wow, okay, And
Speaker 2: how'd you guys now Colin Kline is coaching where right now?
Speaker 1: He's the offensive coordinator of Texas A and him good that.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go right into it. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to go right into my rant about the college.
Speaker 2: Don't you think that there's something wrong with the college
Speaker 2: football playoff format.
Speaker 1: I mean I I yes, I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things wrong.
Speaker 2: Did you see that? Did you see a tweet from
Speaker 2: Rick Patino? No? I don't know if it was really
Speaker 2: Rick Patino or if it was, but the account had
Speaker 2: like nine hundred thousand followers, so it probably is Rick Patino.
Speaker 2: And he just all he said was like, I don't
Speaker 2: know everything about football. I'm paraphrasing. He's like, I don't
Speaker 2: understand everything about football, but I'm trying to imagine a
Speaker 2: world in which Saint John's is a one seed and
Speaker 2: I leave Saint John's to go to some other school
Speaker 2: before the tournament starts.
Speaker 1: Well, let's back it up.
Speaker 3: Do you think Lane Kiffen wanted to coach his team
Speaker 3: throughout the college football play I think the answer is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, of course.
Speaker 3: That those are going to get you in the ass
Speaker 3: because they're salty, right. Colin Klein has said Chris Clement
Speaker 3: is going to coach the bowl game. Colin Klein is
Speaker 3: going to come in after and m gets eliminated in
Speaker 3: the first round of the College football Playoffs.
Speaker 2: I think it's a lot more than than Ole Missus salty.
Speaker 2: They don't want Lane kiffen in their locker room for
Speaker 2: another month trying to get their players to go to
Speaker 2: Baton Rouge with them. That too, it's a lot more
Speaker 2: than just being butt hurt.
Speaker 1: Well I would be. Let's put it this way, I'd
Speaker 1: be pretty fucking butt hurt if that was my team.
Speaker 2: So what the what is the goal? Exactly? Lane Kiffin
Speaker 2: goes to LSU goal.
Speaker 3: He claims his agent did all the money and he
Speaker 3: said he didn't want it to be about money. Ninety
Speaker 3: million dollars And you say you didn't want to been money.
Speaker 3: I like, Lane, given I'm.
Speaker 2: Not, I have to call that. I called bullshit too.
Speaker 2: And if the whole point is to eventually he goes
Speaker 2: to LSU, his whole goal at LSU is going to
Speaker 2: be what to make it to the college a playoff? Right,
Speaker 2: And now he's already there and he's walking away.
Speaker 3: That was his goal when everyody said he was going
Speaker 3: to be the head coach of Florida and then he
Speaker 3: said he didn't like the athletic director.
Speaker 1: So it's like that's every coach's goal, right.
Speaker 2: The college football playoff is just so convoluted. They they've
Speaker 2: got to do are awful, just like they are with AP.
Speaker 1: They don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 3: I pissed because I think b Yu should get in
Speaker 3: over Miami, over Duke, over Virginia, and they're not.
Speaker 2: Duke's not going to get in wins, they won't get in.
Speaker 1: They won't get in.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're right, but we talked a little bit
Speaker 2: about it. I've seen so much, like so much like
Speaker 2: discourse about all this Miami. If they don't make it
Speaker 2: in guess who they but guess who They can blame
Speaker 2: themselves because they were playing in the worst a c C.
Speaker 1: All time, the.
Speaker 2: ACC Championship game on Saturday. It's not Clemson, it's not
Speaker 2: Florida State, it's not Miami. It's not Virginia Tech or
Speaker 2: SMU or even Pitt or Georgia Tech. It's Virginia versus Duke.
Speaker 2: And we're not talking about basketball, Kelly.
Speaker 3: It's Virginia about somehow Duke it magically breaks all these
Speaker 3: tie breakers.
Speaker 2: I know, And it's not seven Duke. If Miami doesn't
Speaker 2: make it, Miami, Miami's got a good argument about beating
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. But if they don't make it, it's because
Speaker 2: they lost two games.
Speaker 3: It's the same reason why a three lost Texas team
Speaker 3: shouldn't get in. I'm sorry Florida and almost as the
Speaker 3: Kentucky and Mississippi State in overtime, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: The only thing Texas should not get into the playoffs.
Speaker 2: But what Steve Sarkushan is.
Speaker 1: Saying is they should have scheduled Ohio State.
Speaker 2: But because but here's the reason why he's right. The
Speaker 2: SEC is so big now, it's that their schedule becomes
Speaker 2: so unbalanced.
Speaker 3: So some years you play this rule's not playing the
Speaker 3: Cupcakes in November next year, but listen.
Speaker 2: But you schedule it next year. But you schedule these
Speaker 2: non conference games years in advance. So when you make
Speaker 2: that deal to play Ohio State, you don't know is
Speaker 2: that going to be the year where SEC schedules really
Speaker 2: hard or is that going to be the year where
Speaker 2: we have like the schedule A and M had this year.
Speaker 2: And so what you're gonna do is you're not going
Speaker 2: to schedule it. So I think the solution to that
Speaker 2: is and I don't think Texas should be in the
Speaker 2: playoff by the way, but I think the solution of
Speaker 2: that is expand the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yes, here's my question.
Speaker 3: Think of like Bill Snyder in the nineties, right, He's like,
Speaker 3: we got to teach this team to these teams to
Speaker 3: win before they can win meaningful games, right, So you
Speaker 3: got to teach the teams to win.
Speaker 1: So we played Northern Illinois and.
Speaker 2: Just like at team, why did you go to straight
Speaker 2: to Northern Illinois of all the schools.
Speaker 1: Because that was the biggest as kicking in case State
Speaker 1: ever had. It was seventy six to zero. So it's like,
Speaker 1: if you can win those games, that's what you can
Speaker 1: get all the kinks out of your offense.
Speaker 3: You pay X team six hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
Speaker 3: which is now double is what you pay, But back
Speaker 3: in the nineties, I think that's what we paid them
Speaker 3: to just beat the breaks off of them. Get guys reps,
Speaker 3: figure out who your first team guys are, figure who
Speaker 3: your second team guys are, and get those kinks out early.
Speaker 3: You're right when you played. When Texas plays Ohio State
Speaker 3: Week one, there's a lot of especially now.
Speaker 2: If you remember that game too, Texas could have easily
Speaker 2: won that game. I think they actually outgained them there,
Speaker 2: definitely did. Ohio State is better now than they were then,
Speaker 2: and I think I think I've heard so many arguments
Speaker 2: about this playoff on Twitter X and in person. I
Speaker 2: think some of the conversations that I've had or I've
Speaker 2: witnessed are some of the dumbest takes.
Speaker 1: I've ever Give me the dumbest sake you've heard.
Speaker 2: Go. I had somebody say to me it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: that Notre Dame is on a ten game winning streak.
Speaker 2: I and somebody say to me, it doesn't matter. I
Speaker 2: want you to back that up, because, yeah, I want
Speaker 2: to hear it.
Speaker 3: No, because here we are talking about strength of schedule.
Speaker 3: Notre Dame hasn't played anybody since they lost.
Speaker 2: No. Strength of schedule is important, but being hot is
Speaker 2: also important. They're all factors. All.
Speaker 1: You can't just pick teams like Boston College by margin.
Speaker 2: Why don't you pull up their schedule, pull up their
Speaker 2: schedule and look at their results. But to think that
Speaker 2: we would have a twelve team playoff and not have
Speaker 2: Notre Dame in there.
Speaker 1: They shouldn't get it. I'm not saying they shouldn't get it.
Speaker 2: Of course they should get in.
Speaker 3: So since they lost to A and M in Miami
Speaker 3: earlier this season, they beat up on Perdue. They beat
Speaker 3: up on Arkansas, who fired their coach. They beat up
Speaker 3: on Boise State, who lost to UNLV. They beat up
Speaker 3: on NC State. They had a nice win versus USC
Speaker 3: which is a mid tier Big Ten team. They barely
Speaker 3: squeaked by at Boston College. They beat up on Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: They beat up on Pittsburgh, then at the time was
Speaker 3: a top twenty five ACC team, which we now know
Speaker 3: is garbage.
Speaker 1: They beat the breaks without their starting quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: So are you actually going to sit here? And this
Speaker 2: is but this was the argument I was told.
Speaker 3: Anybody is at least I could say that. I could
Speaker 3: say that about Ohio State anybody. But guess what, They're undefeated.
Speaker 3: Had lost the game to Texas to start the year,
Speaker 3: and lost to Michigan and still.
Speaker 1: Three losses. They wouldn't be.
Speaker 2: Well if they lost three, but you said two Texas,
Speaker 2: Texas lost three. Oh I don't think Texas should be in.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you.
Speaker 3: That I can agree with Steve Sarkisian if you got
Speaker 3: the same schedule that Notre Dame got.
Speaker 2: What is the point of having a selection committee if
Speaker 2: they can't look at stuff like who's the hottest team,
Speaker 2: Who's the best team. Notre Dame would be favored against
Speaker 2: every team in the country that is in Ohio State.
Speaker 2: Did not to not have them in the playoff is
Speaker 2: insane even have a playoffs.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about power ratings, because power ratings sometimes I
Speaker 3: can get a little convoluted.
Speaker 2: Let me just say, let me say real quickly, it's
Speaker 2: possible that Indiana might be favored against Notre Dame. They're
Speaker 2: the only team other than Ohio State. Because I'm seeing
Speaker 2: the way they're betting this Big Ten championship game, I will, well,
Speaker 2: everybody's on Indiana this week. But I'm just saying everyone's
Speaker 2: on Indiana. But I'm just saying that's the only team
Speaker 2: outside of Ohio State that would be possibly favored against
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. So to not have them in a twelve
Speaker 2: team playoff, why are we even having a playoff if
Speaker 2: we're not going to put the best teams in it?
Speaker 1: And why?
Speaker 2: Why do you think? But that's my whole point. That's
Speaker 2: my whole point. The system's all broken. I agree with you,
Speaker 2: that's my whole point. Why do we even have a
Speaker 2: selection committee if they're not going to sit down and say,
Speaker 2: here are the twelve best teams. Let's have them plays.
Speaker 2: What is their purpose?
Speaker 1: Well, BYU is one of the twelve best teams, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna get left out.
Speaker 2: I don't think BYU would be one of the twelve
Speaker 2: power rated teams.
Speaker 1: Not power rated, but I think they're one of the best.
Speaker 2: That's that'd So let's define best. Then BYU would not
Speaker 2: be in the top twelve of the power ratings.
Speaker 3: I think ratings can be convoluted because we can sit
Speaker 3: here and say, in years past, Alabama will be favored
Speaker 3: by this much. At the end of the day, they
Speaker 3: were favored by thirteen and a half over Florida State.
Speaker 3: Yet they're not being penalized for that because it's week one.
Speaker 2: That's true, I mean I I can't.
Speaker 1: It's how you finish, which is in the case of
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Well, that's how I can say. That's how it's always
Speaker 2: been in college basketball. And it's not a perfect analogy,
Speaker 2: but teams that go into the tournament hot are always
Speaker 2: getting overseated, and I've never heard anyone complain about that.
Speaker 2: In the forty years I've been following the basketball tournament.
Speaker 2: No one's ever said a word about that being wrong.
Speaker 2: But apparently we shouldn't do it in football. I just
Speaker 2: don't get it.
Speaker 3: Basketball tournament, you've got sixty four teams, so they don't
Speaker 3: mind running in those little mid majors and those Why.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to understand why we have a committee
Speaker 2: if it's supposed to be all black and white, like, oh,
Speaker 2: this group of five teams in this team, and what's not.
Speaker 1: Going to be black and white.
Speaker 3: It's going to be TV deals and who makes the
Speaker 3: most money and whose fans travel.
Speaker 2: And it's me, I'll say this. I will say this,
Speaker 2: Notre Dame who I want to see them get in,
Speaker 2: and they should get in, and if you want the
Speaker 2: best playoff, you have to have them in. If they
Speaker 2: don't get in, they have nobody to blame with themselves
Speaker 2: because they lost twice. And more importantly, they never joined
Speaker 2: a conference. If they were in the ACC, they'd be
Speaker 2: playing UVA on Saturday and Charlotte and they'd be a
Speaker 2: twenty six point favorite or whatever whatever number you want
Speaker 2: to attach to it, and they would destroy them and
Speaker 2: they'd be in the playoff and nobody would say a word,
Speaker 2: nobody would got an eye. But I agree, I agree that.
Speaker 2: So they don't have anyone to blame but themselves if
Speaker 2: they don't get in. But if Notre Dame is not
Speaker 2: in this thing, this isn't really decide who the best
Speaker 2: team in the country is because I think they're probably
Speaker 2: the second best team in the country. Does that mean
Speaker 2: that they beat Oregon in the Rose Bowl and not
Speaker 2: necessarily obviously we play the games for a reason, But
Speaker 2: I think they're probably the second best team in the country.
Speaker 1: To either give me what they're favored over some of
Speaker 1: the other top five teams.
Speaker 2: Very small numbers, but they're being but they're not being
Speaker 2: judged against those teams. They're being judged against Oklahoma, who
Speaker 2: they'd be a big favorite against. They're being judged against
Speaker 2: Oklahoma get in.
Speaker 1: I don't think Miss she get in.
Speaker 2: We all miss one eleven and one though, okay, so
Speaker 2: did b YU. True, but I think I think you'd
Speaker 2: agree with me that the Big twelve at going.
Speaker 1: To their conference championship game, Ole Miss isn't.
Speaker 2: Would you at least agree that Big Twelve is not
Speaker 2: as good as normal this year?
Speaker 1: I would say that the SEC is top heavy per usual.
Speaker 2: I think that the SEC and the Big Ten are
Speaker 2: pretty clearly a cut above the Big twelve this season.
Speaker 2: But I do I know what you're saying. I mean, all, like,
Speaker 2: let's talk about all miss thet their coaching staff, they
Speaker 2: lost their coach two years ago, Florida State went undefeated,
Speaker 2: they lost their quarterback. I know that's different. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: they left them out in the team. They left them
Speaker 2: out though, Yeah, they did. So my point is that
Speaker 2: we used to have a committee that could subjectively look
Speaker 2: at things and say, okay, you know what, Yeah, that
Speaker 2: team's undefeated.
Speaker 1: That Tide Committee, what how are you going to be
Speaker 1: on this committee? I want to know.
Speaker 2: I would imagine it's something to do with like bribing people,
Speaker 2: very right, right, It's got to be like very shifty. No.
Speaker 2: I actually think over the years of the committee did
Speaker 2: a pretty good job. If you remember the very first
Speaker 2: college football playoff, go all the way back to I
Speaker 2: think this was in twenty fourteen, Florida State had won
Speaker 2: the national championship the year before, and they were undefeated
Speaker 2: going into the playoff. But did they get the one seed?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: And why is that? Because they really hadn't been playing
Speaker 2: that well. They've been winning a a lot of games
Speaker 2: really close. So even though they were the undefeated national champions.
Speaker 2: They didn't get the one seed because there was a
Speaker 2: committee of people that were looking at it rationally and going, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're undefeated, but they're not the best team. So what
Speaker 2: did they do? They shipped them out to the Rose
Speaker 2: Bowl and they got beat by Oregon in the very
Speaker 2: first college football playoff game ever. Because the committee did
Speaker 2: their jobs and they actually looked at it rationally, and
Speaker 2: they did a good job. I think that they got
Speaker 2: it right when they didn't let Florida State in two
Speaker 2: years ago. Florida State fans probably don't agree with that,
Speaker 2: but why But what is the point of having a
Speaker 2: committee if they can't go, hey, guys, I know this
Speaker 2: team is this, but Notre Dame is clearly better than them.
Speaker 2: How could they possibly not be in or or whoever
Speaker 2: example you want to use. I just want to understand
Speaker 2: what the point of the committee is. They can well
Speaker 2: I've heard people say to me, oh, but that's subjective.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, that is subjective.
Speaker 1: It's subjective.
Speaker 2: That's why we have a group of people to sit
Speaker 2: down and do it. Just these are events are so bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I also think that like these preseason rankings
Speaker 3: that we put like eleven SEC teams in the top
Speaker 3: twenty five, and only six of them end up being
Speaker 3: there to finish the season, just.
Speaker 1: Like every other conference is.
Speaker 2: But it is funny if this.
Speaker 3: Then it skews the strength of schedule right out of
Speaker 3: the gate. And it's like, well, look at alabama schedule.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well if.
Speaker 2: Notre Dame doesn't get in, it will be because of
Speaker 2: what Because five SEC teams? Did I know?
Speaker 3: So he said that that's all they were going to
Speaker 3: do when they expanded. The playoff is light in more
Speaker 3: SEC teams, which is what ESPN wants. Obviously.
Speaker 2: It was funny. I was sitting here on Saturday watching
Speaker 2: the college games, and we really I was biased because
Speaker 2: we needed we needed LSU to beat Oklahoma for the
Speaker 2: moneyline parlas. But Oklahoma's offense couldn't do anything the entire game.
Speaker 2: They couldn't even get a first down. They get the
Speaker 2: ball back down four with minutes left. They've got a
Speaker 2: score to get to the College Football Playoff and LSU,
Speaker 2: I guess, just lost track of their receiver. There was
Speaker 2: just nobody guarding him right down in the middle of
Speaker 2: the field.
Speaker 3: For a winning coach, VR said that he liked LSU
Speaker 3: to win I didn't put him in my parla and I.
Speaker 2: We would have loved it when they didn't win.
Speaker 1: Because neither of the other two teams that I took.
Speaker 3: But Oklahoma State put up a fight, so that kind
Speaker 3: of helped me at least end the season on a
Speaker 3: high note.
Speaker 2: Well, be I think it's I think again, it's what
Speaker 2: we always talk about. Be accountable, Miami. If you don't
Speaker 2: make it, it's because you lost two games and a
Speaker 2: historically weak ACC Notre Dame. If you don't make it,
Speaker 2: it's because you lost two games and because you never
Speaker 2: joined a conference. It's your fault. If you don't make it,
Speaker 2: it's your When else.
Speaker 3: Is joining conferences in realignment, the Big Ten to ACC,
Speaker 3: any of those the Big twelve, anybody would have been
Speaker 3: happy to have Notre Dame in their conference.
Speaker 2: But it does suck, and I know that, I know
Speaker 2: our friend Todd Furman gets skewered for this on social media,
Speaker 2: but it does suck to think that we could have
Speaker 2: a situation where, let me just give examples, North Texas
Speaker 2: is in the College Football Playoff and they're like a
Speaker 2: twenty point underdog in the first game, and their coach
Speaker 2: but that was.
Speaker 1: The whole point of expanding is five schools.
Speaker 2: Right the coach is leeving to go to Oklahoma State
Speaker 2: or James Madison isn't their coach going to UCLA. So
Speaker 2: James Madison gets in and there they wouldn't be that
Speaker 2: big of a dog, but they'd be a big dog.
Speaker 2: And they're coaches leaving too, and it's like we're letting
Speaker 2: them in to shut out by U. To Kelly's point,
Speaker 2: if BYU loses on Saturday to Texas Tech, I don't Tech.
Speaker 3: But I still think that there are the two best
Speaker 3: teams in the conference and that should get into the
Speaker 3: College Football Playoff.
Speaker 2: I don't really think that's crazy. I don't think that's crazy.
Speaker 3: I think the two best teams to get in, and
Speaker 3: then everybody else should be able to follow suit. Alabama
Speaker 3: Georgia makes sense. Probably Virginia should be the only one
Speaker 3: of the ACC.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think i ACC gets Virginia or
Speaker 2: they get nothing is what we're gonna get because Duke.
Speaker 2: If Duke wins, they won't be one of the win
Speaker 2: I like, they won't be one of the five highest
Speaker 2: ranked power winning teams or whatever.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna see any of.
Speaker 2: That the system is so dumb. Can we agree on that?
Speaker 2: At least, yes, we can agree on that. But but
Speaker 2: there's a scenario in which like three or four of
Speaker 2: the twelve teams will have lame duck coaches, and there's
Speaker 2: something wrong with that.
Speaker 3: I'm thoroughly going to enjoy when A and M gets
Speaker 3: here as kicked in the first round.
Speaker 1: There is a little bit of karmic energy shift.
Speaker 3: I was talking the Witch about how Colin Kline's gonna
Speaker 3: fit in at case date. And in nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 3: the Stoops brothers decided they were gonna leave for Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: And then and we found out before the Big twelve
Speaker 3: championship game, where if k State would have won is
Speaker 3: a thirteen and a half point favorite. They went went
Speaker 3: to the national Championship.
Speaker 2: I remember that game. Yeah, it wasn't a wasn't dat
Speaker 2: new in the A M. Who was the coach? Was it?
Speaker 2: RC Slocum?
Speaker 1: I don't know who the fucking coach was. I don't
Speaker 1: really care. It was an awful day. But and and
Speaker 1: M gets in the College Role Playoff.
Speaker 3: They have their best offensive year ever because they haven't
Speaker 3: played anybody.
Speaker 1: Colin Client's coming back to Manhattan and they just get
Speaker 1: their asses wax in the first round. That's the kind
Speaker 1: of energy that I'm here for.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to we talked about how we need
Speaker 2: this committee to do their jobs. Oklahoma was very fortunate
Speaker 2: to beat Auburn. They got some very generous calls in
Speaker 2: that game. Notre Dame, Texas A and M was very
Speaker 2: fortunate to beat Notre Dame. There was a blatant holding
Speaker 2: call on what ended up being like the last play
Speaker 2: from the scrimmage in the game. They didn't call it.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't the committee think about stuff like that? I'll say
Speaker 2: this in Oklahoma's defense. When they lost to Texas, their
Speaker 2: quarterback was hurt, so one of their two losses was
Speaker 2: without their quarterback. How does the committee not taking all
Speaker 2: this into account and processing all this.
Speaker 3: It's just like the AP voters that we saw that like,
Speaker 3: just throw random top twenty five together and don't care.
Speaker 2: It's true. You're right, I don't what awful did you say?
Speaker 1: You know he got to vote?
Speaker 2: No, I did not see it. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 2: I've ever I don't think I've ever actually looked at
Speaker 2: the top twenty five. Who did I don't think.
Speaker 1: Who are these people that we were allowed to like
Speaker 1: we need to.
Speaker 3: I don't think you get I think we need to
Speaker 3: do like a complete overhaul. Maybe we can get like
Speaker 3: an executive order from Trump. That's what Diego Pop asked for.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Trump, can you give us an executive order?
Speaker 3: We're gonna get rid of all these ap voters. We're
Speaker 3: gonna start from scratch. You gotta reapply and prove to
Speaker 3: me why you are competent enough to be able to
Speaker 3: vote for top twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good idea.
Speaker 1: I mean, because they're so incompetent.
Speaker 2: President Trump is already very popular with the media, so
Speaker 2: I'm sure albing.
Speaker 3: At Diego Pavia asking for him to sign an executive
Speaker 3: order to expand the college football playoff because he thinks
Speaker 3: Vandy deserves to get in.
Speaker 2: Well, I wish I wish they would expand a college
Speaker 2: from all playoffs because even though I think Kelly and
Speaker 2: I totally agree that Texas should not be in, there
Speaker 2: is some truth to what Sarkisian saying. You have to
Speaker 2: admit that. And these teams are not going to schedule
Speaker 2: these games that are five years in the future or
Speaker 2: more because they don't know what their schedule is gonna
Speaker 2: look like and it could only be bad for them
Speaker 2: to play these games, and you're gonna see those games
Speaker 2: go away. That's what's gonna happen until they expand the playoff.
Speaker 2: Look at college basketball, you know, I was watching some
Speaker 2: games last night at home. It was like there good games.
Speaker 2: North Carolina played Kentucky, Yukon played Kansas. Because it doesn't
Speaker 2: really matter if they lose those games. Who cares. They're
Speaker 2: all still gonna make it to the INSTAA Tournament. And
Speaker 2: that's why we get these great early season college basketball.
Speaker 1: It helps, Like I know, k you lost at home,
Speaker 1: but to lose to Yukon by four at.
Speaker 2: Home and they didn't have their best player, who the
Speaker 2: guy who might end up being the first overall pick
Speaker 2: in the draft. So but that's again I repeated for
Speaker 2: the millions time, that's why we need a committee of people.
Speaker 2: They can look at stuff like that. Blahoma lost to Texas,
Speaker 2: my tear was hurt. When Kansas lost to Yukon, Peterson
Speaker 2: was hurt. How is that stuff not being considered.
Speaker 3: Because these people aren't actually paying attention and asking those questions. Again,
Speaker 3: I think we wipe them all off and make them,
Speaker 3: start over, proved me, write me resume as to why
Speaker 3: you should get a vote and why you should not
Speaker 3: get a ruined college football.
Speaker 2: Are you saying kill them? You said wipe them, wipe
Speaker 2: them out, of them.
Speaker 1: Start off from scratch, and then you can reapply.
Speaker 2: That's much different than kill. Okay, kill Well, you said
Speaker 2: wipe them out.
Speaker 1: I said them off like a dry erase board. Okay,
Speaker 1: all of you guys are gone.
Speaker 2: Nok That is different. That is different. Last you know,
Speaker 2: last week not not our greatest week. Thursday and Friday
Speaker 2: were great.
Speaker 1: Every dog in the NFL went out right.
Speaker 2: Saturday, we you know, the really big games for us
Speaker 2: were either getting Michigan to cover Ohio State or getting
Speaker 2: Auburn to cover Alabama. We couldn't get them. Sunday it
Speaker 2: was just another NFL Sunday. You know, the Raiders and
Speaker 2: the one of their bullshit teams. But the Titans. We
Speaker 2: needed the Vikings. What did the Vikings find that kid
Speaker 2: to play quarterback? Why?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You needed every garbage team possible. I was like watching
Speaker 3: the show with Ariel and I was like, I am
Speaker 3: betting these about the needs. I'm like, I am not
Speaker 3: betting Minnesota with a kid who is a third string
Speaker 3: player for Minnesota the Gophers last year.
Speaker 1: I are two years ago. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2: It was bad, it wasn't good. And then Monday Night,
Speaker 2: New England rules the Giants. Why don't the Giants play
Speaker 2: Jamis Winston. I didn't see any of the game. I
Speaker 2: can't watch Monday night football, But why don't the Giants
Speaker 2: play Jamis Winston. I'm asking a question. Do you still
Speaker 2: we'll go into the We'll go into this week. It's
Speaker 2: the Actually, this is an awesome week for college football,
Speaker 2: really the climax of the season. And then the draw
Speaker 2: is Sunday. Do you do a hotty threesome with this
Speaker 2: limited slate? So? Do you just have like a best bet?
Speaker 2: I like?
Speaker 1: I like Duke. I gave out Duke. I'm bout on
Speaker 1: it as my best bet. I like Duke kind of
Speaker 1: like Tulane. I have a future on Georgia.
Speaker 3: So I think I'm just gonna stay away from the
Speaker 3: in the SEC Championship game and not.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think there might be some value on Bama just
Speaker 3: looking at from that perspective. In the corny flip game,
Speaker 3: I think I like Indiana. But hey, I missed the
Speaker 3: great number that opened and it just got banged down.
Speaker 3: What is it four now at the Westgate super Book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we took more money on Indiana this morning, so
Speaker 2: we're rolling the way down. So I think the interesting
Speaker 2: thing about that game is we were talking about this
Speaker 2: in our risk area today. The motivation level. I know
Speaker 2: that Ohio State, I know Ryan Day hasn't won a
Speaker 2: Big Ten title. I get that, But the motivation Ohio
Speaker 2: State is to win a national championship.
Speaker 1: Beat Arrival that Ryan Day wanted that off.
Speaker 2: Of his back. At the end of the day, the
Speaker 2: loser of the Big Ten Championship game on Saturday night
Speaker 2: is gonna get a first round by The winner is
Speaker 2: gonna be the one seed, of course they should be,
Speaker 2: and the loser is gonna get a first round by two.
Speaker 2: And we don't even know who's gonna have like the
Speaker 2: quote unquote easy bracket. Look who got the one seed
Speaker 2: last year? Oregon? They got to play Ohio State in
Speaker 2: the first game. Great, So you don't even know yet
Speaker 2: if you're better off being the one seed of the
Speaker 2: four seed, of the three seed. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Indiana wants to win a Big Ten championship Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, and I'm sure Ryan Day would
Speaker 2: love to win a Big Ten title. He hasn't won
Speaker 2: one yet. But it's not like everything is at stake
Speaker 2: on Saturday night. It's that's not what this game is
Speaker 2: because they're both very likely gonna have a first round
Speaker 2: by anyway, right, I mean, can we can we agree
Speaker 2: on that? Committee? Can we can we at least agree
Speaker 2: on that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think that's fair.
Speaker 3: I I think motivation is a tough thing to handicap, right,
Speaker 3: and playing Michigan last week obviously was their main focus
Speaker 3: going in there and getting that win, right, while Kirk
Speaker 3: Signetti got to play Perdue and just beat the brakes
Speaker 3: off of him as a four touchdown favorite. Like you
Speaker 3: think Signetti didn't already have his coaching staff ready for
Speaker 3: looking forward to Ohio State.
Speaker 2: Oh of course he did.
Speaker 1: And I got to say, Netti and Ryan Day don't
Speaker 1: like each other.
Speaker 2: But we do so well on we do so well.
Speaker 2: If Mendoza wins the Heisman, it looks like and I
Speaker 2: remember it, I think so, and I remember thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: they're gonna play Perdue and they're gonna run this fucking
Speaker 2: score up like crazy, and they're gonna let this kid
Speaker 2: go bonkers with video game numbers, and they're gonna let
Speaker 2: him lock up the Heisman. And when I didn't watch
Speaker 2: the game, but when I saw the score later, the
Speaker 2: final score was like sixty three to three or some
Speaker 2: crazy score. So I opened up the box score on
Speaker 2: my phone, thinking like, oh, Mendoza must have had like
Speaker 2: seven touchdowns. No, he barely played. He was like seven
Speaker 2: for fourteen. I'm shocked. Oh. I asked my guys in
Speaker 2: the back, like, is there this abundance of Heisman trophies
Speaker 2: in Bloomington, Indiana that Signetti doesn't care about getting one
Speaker 2: for this kid? Now, that's not important. I think.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing and Snyder.
Speaker 3: This is one of the things if you listened to
Speaker 3: a lot of the guys in the nineties with Snyder,
Speaker 3: is that they always said Snyder didn't care about personal
Speaker 3: trophies and he didn't care about you going to the NFL.
Speaker 1: Right, Martin gramaticus kids.
Speaker 3: The reason why they kick at USF and not k
Speaker 3: State is because he had a sour taste in his
Speaker 3: mouth about Snyder sending him to the NFL. Like his
Speaker 3: his major goal was higher. I think a lot of
Speaker 3: these coaches don't care. I don't think that they really
Speaker 3: like that's a great personal achievement, but that's not a
Speaker 3: team award.
Speaker 2: You are, you wouldn't use it. You wouldn't use that
Speaker 2: on the recruiting trail to say, do you think do
Speaker 2: you think Lincoln Riley would you.
Speaker 3: Rather have your heisman favorite quarterback get hurt against.
Speaker 1: A team like Purdue, of course, or win the Heisman?
Speaker 1: Which is it?
Speaker 3: I think the answers you'd rather have him healthy to
Speaker 3: play against Ohio State and into the College Football playoff
Speaker 3: and possibly playing for a national championship. Do you thin
Speaker 3: they're gonna play for the nationalship? No, but I bet
Speaker 3: Signetti has these kids convinced they can.
Speaker 2: I have to agree with that, but I will say
Speaker 2: that I do think Lincoln Riley definitely uses it as
Speaker 2: a recruiting tool when he talks to quarterbacks. How many
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winning qbs he's coached. I think he's at
Speaker 2: like three or four right now, Mayfield, Caleb Kyler, Murray.
Speaker 2: You think he's not telling quarterbacks that when he's recruiting them, So,
Speaker 2: of course you're right. Being healthy for the playoff is
Speaker 2: way more important. But I was surprised that they didn't
Speaker 2: let Mendoza at least run it up until he came
Speaker 2: out of the game. I was disappointed by that, But
Speaker 2: I know with your generation, they don't. Your generation doesn't
Speaker 2: believe in stuff like that, right, I don't.
Speaker 1: Think Kirk Signetti cares at all.
Speaker 2: Obviously, well he obviously doesn't. You're right, Yeah, I agree. No,
Speaker 2: there's no I'm but I'm saying is I thought he
Speaker 2: was going to Clearly I was wrong, No doubt. We
Speaker 2: do want Mendoza to win the Heisman. We do, okay,
Speaker 2: if the Ohio State quarterback on the Heisman too, so
Speaker 2: either way should be okay.
Speaker 1: I think that Uh's not gonna win.
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love got hurt early in the Stanford game and
Speaker 2: he did come out of that game. So I yeah,
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love is not gonna win the Heisman. It's probably
Speaker 2: gonna be the course. See everyone here is like, oh,
Speaker 2: whoever wins the game Saturday, I will win the Heisman.
Speaker 2: I think these voters are so lazy they've probably already
Speaker 2: sat in their ballots.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I would not be shocked.
Speaker 2: Correct, you know they have they are they even gonna
Speaker 2: bother to watch the game Saturday, or they probably a
Speaker 2: sharp bets for this week. They've played JMU against Troy.
Speaker 2: JMU very likely into the college football playoff if if
Speaker 2: Duke beats Virginia, I have that correct. They bet Virginia
Speaker 2: against Duke. They laid two and a half half and three.
Speaker 2: They're a three and a half point favorite. They bet
Speaker 2: Tulane plus three against North Texas, a game that possibly
Speaker 2: could be an eliminator game for the playoff. You've got
Speaker 2: the Tulane coach, he's going to Florida. The North Texas
Speaker 2: coach I believe is going to Oklahoma State. The winner
Speaker 2: looks like they're gonna go to the College Fotball playoff.
Speaker 2: And then we already talked about this one. Everybody's on Indiana, Yes,
Speaker 2: the Sharps, the public, the world is on the Hoosiers.
Speaker 2: We're all the way down from six and a half
Speaker 2: to four. The Big Ten Championship game is Saturday.
Speaker 1: Here's my question.
Speaker 3: But the betting public who hasn't bet, because if we're
Speaker 3: filming on a Wednesday this week is absolutely gonna be
Speaker 3: on Ohio State. Ohio State's ten to one and one
Speaker 3: against the spread this year.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I mean, they're gona
Speaker 2: They're gonna have been their money line parlay is for sure.
Speaker 2: But remember what the betting public loves more than anything,
Speaker 2: whether we're talking about college or pro football. They love
Speaker 2: those super high scoring offenses. They love Oregon because Oregon
Speaker 2: puts points on the board. Indiana's got this high powered offense,
Speaker 2: and they love Texas Tech. Texas Tech scores a lot
Speaker 2: of points. Texas Tech's a thirteen point favorite against BYU
Speaker 2: haven't seen much on that game, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: Georgia we have is a two and a half point
Speaker 2: favorite against Alabama. Had a lot of movement on that game.
Speaker 2: There was some sharp money over forty seven and a
Speaker 2: half in that game. Nothing really to the side. I'll
Speaker 2: be interested in what they do with Alabama if they lose. Obviously,
Speaker 2: if Alabama wins, their at them, of course, right, But
Speaker 2: if they lose, what will they do with them? I'll
Speaker 2: be curious to see that. Okay, what about the NFL?
Speaker 2: What is your barking dog?
Speaker 3: The NFL is so bad, The NFL is so bad
Speaker 3: that my barking dog is the Saints, And I hope
Speaker 3: that I'm wrong. Hope that I'm wrong, because I have
Speaker 3: to so I'm still alive. My buddy Steven and I
Speaker 3: have one entry left in the Splash Sports two point
Speaker 3: five million dollar guarantee.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, really yeah, there's like three hundred of me. Look,
Speaker 1: there's like three hundred of us. Well, this is the
Speaker 1: last week for buyes, and my god, these are our options.
Speaker 3: Ready, hold on, let me get let me get into
Speaker 3: my contest tabs because I'm not a commissioner.
Speaker 2: On this one. Okay, So there are three and thirty
Speaker 2: four of us.
Speaker 3: Left out of sixteen three hundred and thirty seven. So
Speaker 3: basically sixteen thousand.
Speaker 1: People have been eliminated. Wow, this is who we have
Speaker 1: to choose from. Talk about vomit.
Speaker 3: Titans, Browns, the Jets, the Bucks, the Commanders, the Vikings,
Speaker 3: the Raiders, and we have to pick two.
Speaker 1: What I can't possibly I cannot I cannot possibly take
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3: I cannot trust this team whatsoever to win a football game, right,
Speaker 3: like the whole world was on them.
Speaker 2: If you're ever gonna take the Browns, they are hauled
Speaker 2: against Tennessee. I mean this would be I'm not saying
Speaker 2: to do that I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna take the We're gonna take the Bucks. I like
Speaker 3: the Saints to cover the spread the Bucks have not
Speaker 3: been covering as of late. I think the Bucks will
Speaker 3: get a win late like they did last week, and
Speaker 3: it'll be fine. But I do think Saints plus eight
Speaker 3: and a half is a little too high. I would
Speaker 3: not be surprised to see it be a stupid one
Speaker 3: point game like we saw on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Those are your favorite. That being said, I got to
Speaker 1: figure out if I'm going to take the Vikings in
Speaker 1: a coin flip.
Speaker 2: After last week, Well, let me help you. Let me
Speaker 2: help you with that because I can tell you the
Speaker 2: sharp money that we've seen here at the Westgates super Book,
Speaker 2: the Commanders, the Commandos, they took three and two and
Speaker 2: a half. Who's whose quarterbacking for the Vikings? Is it nine?
Speaker 2: Not Nueva Nueva. It's awesome, So the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: I don't want Shadur, I don't want JJ McCarthy. Like
Speaker 3: this is how I got fucked because of the last
Speaker 3: bie weeks. And then guess what next week? Look, can
Speaker 3: we get to take next week? If we advance next week?
Speaker 3: The Bears Giant favorites over the Rounds, Niners Giants Favorite
Speaker 3: Giants are forty nine ers favorite over the Titans. Like, like,
Speaker 3: if we could just get to next week, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be really close to two million dollars, Richard, And I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people are gonna take the Browns
Speaker 3: this week because they're gonna have to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, and they did it make you feel
Speaker 2: any better? Did it make you feel any better about
Speaker 2: Circus Survivor that all four lost and we never would
Speaker 2: have got out of that weekend anyway, because I think
Speaker 2: I think we probably would have saved the Eagles and
Speaker 2: then we would have lost. Right, How did that even happen?
Speaker 2: I was at del Mar that day. I didn't see
Speaker 2: that game. They they just got manhandled by the Bears.
Speaker 1: Okay, So one of the cool things about.
Speaker 3: That I love about Splash is they have an availability
Speaker 3: report that's actually.
Speaker 2: Eagles Bears game. All right, go ahead tell me that.
Speaker 1: I don't care what happened last week. I'm sorry all
Speaker 1: those that got knocked out of Circus Survivor. We'd have
Speaker 1: been knocked out too.
Speaker 3: But I am still alive and one hundred thousand dollars guaranteed,
Speaker 3: and a two point five million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 2: A thousand contests. You should be alive in one or two.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm actually alive.
Speaker 3: In like Joe and Sammy Pea's one. I've got a few.
Speaker 3: But right, here's what here's what it is.
Speaker 1: Three hundred and sixteen.
Speaker 3: People still have the Browns available. I think people are
Speaker 3: I only four of us have Seahawks still available, which
Speaker 3: is weird.
Speaker 2: Uh. This tough content.
Speaker 1: This is tough content because here, here's what I'm concerned about.
Speaker 1: Why and why I don't want to take the Browns
Speaker 1: is because almost everybody has them available?
Speaker 2: Is it because the Browns gargle my balls? That'd be
Speaker 2: a good reason to be concerned about taking the Browns? They?
Speaker 3: Yes, But also we know what happens usually when those
Speaker 3: top top one, two, three picks. A lot of people
Speaker 3: got Like the reason why the contents got knocked out
Speaker 3: so much is because a lot of people had the
Speaker 3: Rams last week.
Speaker 1: Yes, the with the number one, but the second most
Speaker 1: pick were the Rams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of interesting Westgate Survivor because we
Speaker 2: don't have the Thanksgiving week thing, so not everybody was
Speaker 2: saving Ravens and Eagles for our contest because it's just
Speaker 2: one week on its own, and it looked like I
Speaker 2: guess everybody had used the rams or almost everybody had
Speaker 2: used the RAMS. So even with the Eagles, the Ravens,
Speaker 2: the Rams all losing, nobody was knocked out of our
Speaker 2: Survivor contest. All eight people moved on to the next week.
Speaker 2: That's pretty amazing when you think about that.
Speaker 3: Everybody the Dolphins last week and I was ready to
Speaker 3: break my television like they they had that game.
Speaker 2: So on what would it accomplish if you broke your TV?
Speaker 1: Like really but like there's visions of the TV breaking, Like,
Speaker 1: but what would.
Speaker 2: You do next? And you have to just like go
Speaker 2: to the store and buy to the TV.
Speaker 1: That's probably are just order one online to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably be delivered like the same cyber.
Speaker 3: Aays got a Cyber Monday deal on a new TV. No,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm going a con nundrum this week
Speaker 3: the end. Okay, I'm glad. I'm glad you are concerned
Speaker 3: for me, because it doesn't sound like you are.
Speaker 2: They bet the Redskins, the Commanders, they bet the they
Speaker 2: bet the Miami Dolphins. You know, you know we saw
Speaker 2: I'll say this. We saw a steam last week, similar
Speaker 2: spot on Atlanta at the Jets, similar points spread sharp
Speaker 2: guys on Atlanta. The Jets won that game, so they're
Speaker 2: coming back to the well here with Miami. They bet
Speaker 2: the Steelers plus six and a half at Baltimore. And
Speaker 2: there's something wrong with Lamar Jackson, right, It's got to
Speaker 2: be why he's like, I know, Lamar, I know it's
Speaker 2: so cliche to say he can't throw. He's a run
Speaker 2: first quarterback. Blah blah, bah blah blah. He was missing
Speaker 2: throws last week that he does make. He he's all
Speaker 2: out of swords. He's better than that. I don't know
Speaker 2: what's going on there, But they bet the Steelers. I
Speaker 2: think you're gonna see. I think you're gonna see the
Speaker 2: public really on Dallas. Fair enough, Dallas a hot team
Speaker 2: right now. You know that Dallas is they're winning, they're
Speaker 2: winning with style.
Speaker 3: Have you noticed that the regression has come for Dan Campbell.
Speaker 3: All of this crazy shit that he's been doing that
Speaker 3: you used to work is no longer working. It's kind
Speaker 3: of like regression of the Toush push for the Eagles
Speaker 3: where it turned into a fumble.
Speaker 2: The public Dallas is going to be a public dog
Speaker 2: on Thursday Night. Do whatever you want with that information,
Speaker 2: but Dallas is going to be a public dog. And
Speaker 2: then I think the Sunday Night and the Monday night
Speaker 2: games both or at least semi interesting. Uh. Did see
Speaker 2: a little bit of sharp money on Kansas City. Haven't
Speaker 2: seen much yet on Monday Night football. It's tough because
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody really knows what to do with
Speaker 2: the Eagles right now. And you got the situation with Herbert.
Speaker 2: He broke his hand. It's not his throwing hand. It's strange.
Speaker 2: It's strange. So is that does that mean Trey Lance
Speaker 2: at quarterback for the Chargers? What's that? I think you're
Speaker 2: on mute. Oh boy, I can't hear you.
Speaker 1: I'm muted. I think it's so it's.
Speaker 2: Kind of nice to not being able to hear. I
Speaker 2: don't know why.
Speaker 1: I think it's because the dogs are all barking and
Speaker 1: ship in the background.
Speaker 3: So I said, I think it's the same reason why
Speaker 3: so the Eagles are road favorites, because it's gonna probably
Speaker 3: be Trey Lance. I think it's the same reason why
Speaker 3: the Colts are road favorites is because Jacksonville is all
Speaker 3: banged up, and.
Speaker 2: Don't forget too. I know we talk about this a lot.
Speaker 2: We'll do it again because we're repetitive. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: all Eagle fans there. You know, it's not it's not.
Speaker 1: Gonna be at Allegiance.
Speaker 2: It's just how it works. It will be You're right,
Speaker 2: it will be like that. And yeah, well we'll need uh,
Speaker 2: we'll need the Chargers in that game. This is like
Speaker 2: a really big sports weekend. You know. I know you
Speaker 2: don't care about stuff like this, but I do. Friday
Speaker 2: is the World Cup draw. They're gonna announce all the games,
Speaker 2: and then Saturday is pay per view UFC event a
Speaker 2: Team Mobile, which I'm going to. So there's actually a
Speaker 2: lot going on this week in this sports world. And
Speaker 2: then Sunday is the college football playoff draw and everybody
Speaker 2: will be hysterical after.
Speaker 1: That's going to lose their mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think this week is you know, usually
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a lull here in the
Speaker 2: casino business until we get to New Year's and then January.
Speaker 2: You know, the casino business takes off every year. Usually
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a lull, right now, aren't they? Oh, yeah, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right. They're coming in this weekend. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: This is Kelly's right again. This is going to be
Speaker 2: a very good weekend in Las Vegas. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of big events going on. I'm excited, man, I'm looking
Speaker 2: forward to the fights. I don't think I've been to
Speaker 2: a UFC pay per view all year this year. Wow.
Speaker 2: I went to one in Seattle back in February after
Speaker 2: the Rough Bowl, but it wasn't a pay per view.
Speaker 2: It was like a regular folk one. This one's a
Speaker 2: pay per view. Do you want to do your mail bag? Question?
Speaker 3: Much stuff on my list that we haven't even talked
Speaker 3: about and the show was over. What I didn't get
Speaker 3: to talk about the letter that I got after being
Speaker 3: on handity somebody found my own.
Speaker 1: What a crazy letter.
Speaker 3: I didn't even talk about the Splash contest and how
Speaker 3: I have stuff going on on Splash for not only
Speaker 3: Conference Championship weekend, but the playoff survivor.
Speaker 2: Tell us about the tell us about Splash. I want
Speaker 2: to know about that, okay, because you've already lost me
Speaker 2: enough money and Splash.
Speaker 1: So what I lost you enough loss?
Speaker 2: Who picked the Eagles against the Bears, wasn't me? Who
Speaker 2: was that? Oh shit? Sorry Chris, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3: And me and John didn't fight him on it because
Speaker 3: I just didn't have the energy because he was in town.
Speaker 1: Okay, different Josh Championship. Pick him.
Speaker 3: You have to sign up before seven pm Eastern on
Speaker 3: Friday because it's all nine games, and you put one
Speaker 3: best bet get you two points.
Speaker 1: There's a huge there's a huge layover right now.
Speaker 3: There is like a seventy five hundred dollars layover and
Speaker 3: it goes in forty eight hours because it's a Friday start.
Speaker 3: Twenty five bucks, ten thousand dollars guaranteed, so there's gonna
Speaker 3: be a huge layover in that.
Speaker 2: Then there's a lot of games on Friday. Edit, I
Speaker 2: don't think I reckon. I will include them Conference USA, Sunbelt, American,
Speaker 2: and the Mountain West, and they're all being played at
Speaker 2: exactly the same time. Yes, who scheduled this? I don't
Speaker 2: know why. Don't think they should play the UNLV game
Speaker 2: at like seven, And then.
Speaker 3: We're doing a college football playoff survivor two hundred fifty
Speaker 3: thousand dollars guaranteed, one hundred dollars an injury. There's only
Speaker 3: twenty two people that have signed up out of the
Speaker 3: twenty seven hundred.
Speaker 2: So there's tell me the format of that one.
Speaker 1: Though, Okay, format you are going to pick?
Speaker 2: Do you know? Do you know the format because we
Speaker 2: can pause the show.
Speaker 1: Yes, you're gonna pick one per slate.
Speaker 3: The first round there's gonna be a double pick, and
Speaker 3: then the quarterfinals there's gonna be.
Speaker 1: A double pick.
Speaker 2: You're not picking one personally, you're one per Okay, I'm sorry, Kelly,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. So two in the first round, two in
Speaker 2: the quarterfinals, one semifinal in the champion Yes, because yeah.
Speaker 3: Obviously you can only use one team once. It's gonna
Speaker 3: be just like we did during March Madness. It's gonna
Speaker 3: be fucking hard and it's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: And that's why we're guaranteeing two hundred fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: I will do it. I got a text my baby bro, Peter.
Speaker 2: Peter's over the moon right now with this. James Franklin
Speaker 2: higher by the way for him. I'm actually what was
Speaker 2: Penn State thinking? So they paid fifty they fucked up.
Speaker 1: Anyway, got a new head coach, No coach, they didn't.
Speaker 1: We weren't even looking for a new head coach.
Speaker 2: Yet they paid fifty million dollars to get rid of
Speaker 2: their coach, and they did it first that they have
Speaker 2: first choice, and they still don't have a coach. They
Speaker 2: really screwed up. Anyway.
Speaker 1: Draft is on the hot seat now they're athletic director.
Speaker 2: Peter. My brother is very happy about the James Franklin
Speaker 2: higher and I like this. I like the sound of
Speaker 2: this college football survive of her contest. I'm gonna ask
Speaker 2: my bro if he wants to do a brother's entry.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in that contest. Sounds like fun.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get us an entry. I'm gonna get my
Speaker 3: own entry. Oh no, don't get from you guys. And
Speaker 3: then you meet Low and Jake. You're gonna do one,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna get one with you, me, Joff, n CT.
Speaker 1: Actually that's all I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 2: I want. No, I'll do the one with Louis and
Speaker 2: John because I love those guys. But I can't. That's enough,
Speaker 2: and I got one with my brother. Two is good, right, Okay, fine, fine,
Speaker 2: I'll do the one with you and CT and Joff
Speaker 2: because I also love those guys. All right. Three entries. Geez,
Speaker 2: three entries.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a huge overlay. Tell me about the
Speaker 3: lay right two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a massive overlay.
Speaker 2: The thing starts in sixteen days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, John Murray, I'm telling you, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's hard, because it's gonna be so hard that people
Speaker 3: are gonna freak out.
Speaker 1: So I think there's gonna be a massive overlay.
Speaker 2: I want to do it. I want to do it
Speaker 2: because I sincerely think it sounds fun. That's why I'm
Speaker 2: doing it.
Speaker 1: I like, some God, we've got six questions.
Speaker 2: No nor handity letter. Your handy letter.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't want to get into that. It was
Speaker 3: so fucking weird. I like, open it from this person,
Speaker 3: this husband and wife.
Speaker 1: And son city, and I'm like, it's like typed out
Speaker 1: with like little labels. I'm like, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: I open and it's like we saw your handity appearance
Speaker 1: and here's where you're wrong and all this shit. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh great.
Speaker 3: I thought I expunged myself from the Internet and put
Speaker 3: my house where people couldn't fucking find me, and somebody
Speaker 3: saw me for the seventeen seconds. I was on Fox
Speaker 3: News and decided to write me a letter with Bible
Speaker 3: verses explaining where I was a terrible human being?
Speaker 2: Did you ever send me that interview? Because I was
Speaker 2: gonna show it to my mom.
Speaker 1: I asked for it and I didn't get it, and
Speaker 1: I just listen. I don't want to bother those people
Speaker 1: that are way more important than I'll ever be.
Speaker 2: I wanted to show mom, what about mom? Mom? Is
Speaker 2: that important? Listen? All right?
Speaker 1: When I get to my dad's I'm sure it's still recorded,
Speaker 1: I'll record it.
Speaker 2: Oh mom, you know what, Mama. Mom was happy with you.
Speaker 2: She liked some of the recommendations you made. I took
Speaker 2: her to mother Wolf last week and she liked some
Speaker 2: of the recommendations you made. So she was very happy
Speaker 2: with you. That was a that was a fine meal.
Speaker 2: So thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you guys enjoyed it. I'm sorry I didn't
Speaker 3: gonna answer. No, no, no, not a little drunk. He
Speaker 3: drunk on my birthday. It took getting off my phone.
Speaker 2: It took me a second to realize it because I
Speaker 2: was at dinner. I was texting Brett, and it took
Speaker 2: me a second because I had. I had a little
Speaker 2: bit of wine and then and then when it clicked
Speaker 2: with me. That's Brett's rule that when I when I,
Speaker 2: when that registered, I go oh shit, and I told mom,
Speaker 2: all right, leave them alone. It took me a.
Speaker 3: Second try to order another bottle of wine. And the
Speaker 3: best place about this Italian spi is it's only beer
Speaker 3: and wine, so he couldn't try to rope me into
Speaker 3: getting espresso Martini's.
Speaker 2: Once I realized that, once that clicked, I put my
Speaker 2: phone away and that was it. It took me a second.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not that bright. But once I realized, oh,
Speaker 2: that's Brett's rule, that was enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's my birthday. Actually, gonna do whatever I want.
Speaker 2: No, I don't agree with that. I think Brett deserves
Speaker 2: to have some time unbothered by all them bother I agree.
Speaker 1: Watching the Gay State basketball game on my phone.
Speaker 2: I felt that he was correct. So go ahead, fair enough,
Speaker 2: all right, we.
Speaker 3: Got way too many questions, so we're going to do
Speaker 3: rapid fire vincit. PGH was an OKAV hit big last
Speaker 3: year with Florida. Are you looking at any other college
Speaker 3: basketball futures for this year? I have placed one so far,
Speaker 3: it's thirty to one on Iowa State to win the
Speaker 3: national championship. I'm not sure if I was going to
Speaker 3: win it, but I thought thirty to one was pretty good.
Speaker 3: I think last week, yes, Iowa State, excuse me, I
Speaker 3: think last I saw they were twenty two to one.
Speaker 1: A couple of teams that I think are a little
Speaker 1: out of value at this point.
Speaker 3: Michigan, you can't bet Michigan now. Unfortunately, you can't bet
Speaker 3: really any of those. Louisville is going to be interesting.
Speaker 2: John Murray, I like the Louisville coach. Michigan. We talked
Speaker 2: about this. Actually our team last week unbelievable. I mean,
Speaker 2: Gonzaga is really good and they destroyed them in that
Speaker 2: tournament last week. Very impressive.
Speaker 3: Very and Gonzaga is another team I saw some some
Speaker 3: I would call respect to people place some money on him. Yes,
Speaker 3: I did not, but I Iowa State for me. I
Speaker 3: may try to find another one, maybe b Yu or
Speaker 3: a Vanderbilt.
Speaker 2: I have a ticket on I have a take it
Speaker 2: on BYU. I got to take it on BYU with
Speaker 2: some of my buddies. We bet b Yu. We like
Speaker 2: the freshman, We liked the kid. I call him.
Speaker 1: Jacket eleven gazillion dollars for the cook guy?
Speaker 2: Did I call the kid Jackie Moon? But I think
Speaker 2: his real name is Richie Saunders. Jackie Moon's a movie reference.
Speaker 1: You never seen movie references? You know what it was?
Speaker 2: Semi pro with Will Ferrell.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: I got a BYU ticket.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Okay, maybe I'll join you.
Speaker 3: We'll see what it looks like, all right, Seawn Michael
Speaker 3: eighty eight wants to know if you can do this
Speaker 3: six seven.
Speaker 2: Meme for what is that? What is that?
Speaker 1: I asked one of the weird little kids thing. They
Speaker 1: go six seven six seven. I don't know what that's it.
Speaker 2: They just go like this, that's it. Yes, I don't
Speaker 2: really get it. I asked. One of the guys that
Speaker 2: used to work for me. Actually was a guy named
Speaker 2: Chase Michaelson, who you once I think robbed of several
Speaker 2: hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Listen, you shouldn't make bad bets.
Speaker 2: And I asked him about it, and he gave he
Speaker 2: gave me an explanation of what it was, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't believe you. That can't be.
Speaker 3: There's not an explanation that even my twelve year old
Speaker 3: niece is like, it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's like six or seven, like just too, you
Speaker 1: can say five or six red it, I guess.
Speaker 2: But that's just part of being old, like you don't
Speaker 2: understand what young people do.
Speaker 1: I guess all right.
Speaker 3: Nate Burchill wants to know, do you respect the accounts
Speaker 3: or sharps I ever bet teasers are or parlays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the answer is yes. And if they're doing it,
Speaker 2: that means that your pricing's probably not right. So if
Speaker 2: you're you know, maybe you've maybe you've you should have
Speaker 2: closed something that was correlated and they they saw that
Speaker 2: it wasn't closed and they made a correlated parlay against you.
Speaker 2: That's on your team. And then teasers, if you've got
Speaker 2: a lot of wise guys betting you teasers, and people
Speaker 2: are not gonna like me saying this, but if you've
Speaker 2: got a lot of wise guys betting you teasers, you
Speaker 2: should probably check your pricing. You should probably change your pricing.
Speaker 3: So yes, they do, Yes, Okay, next question, uh not
Speaker 3: want not yep E eight three six two one. Which
Speaker 3: college football futures have the most handle and who do
Speaker 3: you need to win? The college Football Playoff.
Speaker 2: Well, we don't want Notre Dame. We don't want Notre
Speaker 2: Dame to win it. That would be bad. We would
Speaker 2: love to. Actually, we do very well in Ohio State.
Speaker 2: So you look at who's the big favorite and who's
Speaker 2: going to be there at the end. I think Ohio
Speaker 2: State will be there at the end. I'm going out
Speaker 2: on a big limb there. I think Notre Dame will
Speaker 2: be there at the end if they let them in.
Speaker 2: But we don't want Notre Dame. We do want Ohio State.
Speaker 1: That's it. Just those two. No other big liabilities, not really.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, like, okay, so if Notre Dame's your
Speaker 1: number one liability, who's number two?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I don't think they're going to get
Speaker 2: in though, but Miami's a big liability. But Miami's not
Speaker 2: going to get in. And State was a big liability,
Speaker 2: but they're not going to them.
Speaker 1: I've already gotten next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Texas had some money. They're not going to get in.
Speaker 2: So I'm only looking at who I think will be
Speaker 2: in the thing. I do believe at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, Notre Dame is going to get in, and
Speaker 2: they are a big liability.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna save this next question for next week because
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to have more to talk about. H
Speaker 3: five Kevin Boss on Access, What are some of the
Speaker 3: weirdest ways or best ways to brig a slump that
Speaker 3: y'all have ever heard or done. I went from ninety
Speaker 3: sixth place to over one thousand in the contest after
Speaker 3: going through twelve. I think you should hire the s
Speaker 3: Etsy Witch. One hundred ninety bucks is totally worth the
Speaker 3: value there, and she will help you get out of
Speaker 3: your slump.
Speaker 2: Kevin, send me one hundred and ninety bucks and I'll
Speaker 2: see what I can do to help you. And so
Speaker 2: I want one hundred ninety bucks. I'm sending money to
Speaker 2: people work.
Speaker 1: Did it work?
Speaker 2: It might have worked. Yes, Apparently you got a new
Speaker 2: code show. You've got a new coach. So if that
Speaker 2: coach is really good, then I guess it's because of
Speaker 2: the Witch.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's in the stars. I did not
Speaker 3: want coln Cline to come back from text A and M.
Speaker 3: I wanted a proven head coach that was going to
Speaker 3: win games, like a Chris Climban, and I started pulling
Speaker 3: some of his astrology. I looked at some of the
Speaker 3: stuff that Gracie did. I started pulling a couple other numbers,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, holy shit, this is gonna be really
Speaker 3: good for k State.
Speaker 1: I've now bought in. Twenty four hours later.
Speaker 3: I found out about twenty four hours ago this was
Speaker 3: gonna happen, and I was like, no, no, no, I
Speaker 3: didn't want it.
Speaker 1: Now I'm looking at him like I think it's in
Speaker 1: the stars.
Speaker 2: UFC three twenty three is Saturday Night. Don't have any
Speaker 2: plays from the quote unquote Big Guy the Big Guy,
Speaker 2: but we did see Sharp Money on. I don't know
Speaker 2: how to pronounce these names. And I'm doing a UFC
Speaker 2: podcast Friday. I'm gonna make a complete ass of myself.
Speaker 1: That's the worst.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta fill in for bab Akitas. I gotta
Speaker 2: do this show for this guy Clip who's a very
Speaker 2: nice guy. But I don't, you know, I don't follow
Speaker 2: it the way I used to. But they bet Tyra
Speaker 2: Tara against I know, Brandon Moreno, the Assassin Baby. They
Speaker 2: bet his opponent at minus one twenty. Now he's minus
Speaker 2: one thirty. They bet Macy Barber, who I'm a fan of.
Speaker 2: For reasons we don't need to get into they laid
Speaker 2: minus one fifty. She's now minus two bucks. They bet
Speaker 2: Melvin excuse me, Marvin Vittoria. I actually know Marvin Vittori.
Speaker 2: They bet Marvin Victoria had even money. He's now minus
Speaker 2: won thirty. Nothing on the two big fights, nothing on
Speaker 2: the two title fights. Yet they did bet. How about
Speaker 2: this one, Anthony Joshua minus one thousand to beat Jake Paul.
Speaker 2: They bet that with us Anthony Joshua, Jake Paul that
Speaker 2: fight is on Friday.
Speaker 1: December nineteenth, fights that he wasn't gonna win.
Speaker 2: Well, if you know, if Jake Paul doesn't get knocked
Speaker 2: out at the very beginning of this fight. When I
Speaker 2: say the beginning, I mean the first two or three rounds,
Speaker 2: something's up. Anthony Joshua is a gold medal winning heavyweight boxer.
Speaker 2: Heavyweight boxer, He's huge. They bet Joshua minus a thousand.
Speaker 2: I guess Jake Paul that fights on Friday, December nineteenth.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's it.
Speaker 3: Longest show ever. Do well, great numbers in the algorithm.
Speaker 3: Thanks for your contribution.
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