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<v Speaker 1>Hello, anybody, Welcome to the Lucky Weekly Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Tony Gerdeman here as always a sophomore town.

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<v Speaker 3>How's it going well, Tony, you told me what this

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<v Speaker 3>show was and I said I hate these shows, and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, I said, no, you like them. These are your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite shows. That's what you said the last time we

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<v Speaker 1>did one of these.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, it is not.

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<v Speaker 3>He knows I don't love these shows, which is why

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing, once again, Tony, blind ranking individual matchups.

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<v Speaker 2>We're blind ranking some any individual matchups this year four

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<v Speaker 2>of the Black Eyes. I'm gonna give Tom a matchup

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<v Speaker 2>between an higher state player and an opposing player, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna rank it between one and five what he

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<v Speaker 2>thinks it's going to be in terms of the most impactful,

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<v Speaker 2>most important, biggest individual matchup. Of course, the problem with

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<v Speaker 2>blind ranking Tom is you're ranking these things blindly.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what I've never done is I've never.

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<v Speaker 2>Like sold you out or not, the last one being,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, something like Joe Maguire versus the Volcano.

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<v Speaker 4>He said foreshadowingly, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is I don't put enough forethought into something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I'm not that kind of person. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a bad person.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, Tom, the first one here, let's go with,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was a pretty big one.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Marshall versus Peyton Piers.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so Michigan running back Jordan Marshall, who we will

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<v Speaker 3>get to talk to on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe we'll maybe we'll ask him to blind rank this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you think you're matchup with Peyton Pierce ranks

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<v Speaker 3>visa be these other four matchups, but you have to

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<v Speaker 3>answer yours and then we'll tell you the other ones one.

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<v Speaker 4>At a time.

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<v Speaker 3>Running back, Yes, So this this feels like now I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to I'm going to cheat a little bit on

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<v Speaker 3>this one because I think that Savian Hyder could be

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<v Speaker 3>Did we not.

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<v Speaker 4>Do this one already?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like we talked about Jordan Marshall because I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I've gone through this Savian Hyder thought process

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<v Speaker 3>all we talked about. Okay, Okay, So I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>Savian Hider by the end of the season could be

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<v Speaker 3>taking on a bigger.

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<v Speaker 4>Role in that Michigan offense.

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<v Speaker 3>And so Jordan Marshall maybe the guy who's getting half

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<v Speaker 3>the carries, but you're you know, you're splitting him.

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<v Speaker 4>Something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to kind of hedge here a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit and say because of that, this is number three

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<v Speaker 3>for me, where because I think there's a real possibility

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<v Speaker 3>that Jordan Marshall himself is ten carries for forty seven

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<v Speaker 3>yards against Ohio State something like that, where it's not

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's not it's like Chernobyl, not great and

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<v Speaker 3>not terrible. That was three point six yards per carry

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<v Speaker 3>at Churnerobyl. This would be four point seven yards per

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<v Speaker 3>carry for Michigan in Ohio Stadium where you're not winning

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<v Speaker 3>the game there, You're not losing the game there. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it may be it may be that save Vann Hyder

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<v Speaker 3>has eighteen carries that game.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I'm going to hedge a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little bit to protect myself from your malfeasans and you're dastardly.

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<v Speaker 4>What have you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy because the last time we had Jordan Marshall

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<v Speaker 2>against Peton Pierce, you hadn't number one.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here's one for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana wide receiver Charlie Becker m HM against played Devin

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<v Speaker 2>Sanchez last year. It did not go great for Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>Becker versus Darmade Matthews. Yeah, this year size versus size.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry to be clear, it did not go well for

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<v Speaker 3>Jamaine Matthews against Charlie Becker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so yes, this year, Whier State goes to Indian,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be throwing the ball, trying to get some

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<v Speaker 2>big chunks downfield.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows what the running game for the Hoosiers are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look like.

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Becker, They're gonna need him step up, Devin Sanchez.

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<v Speaker 2>Can he shut him down?

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<v Speaker 1>Where does this sprank?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it more important than the Ohio State linebacker against

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<v Speaker 2>the Michigan running back.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's a layered and nuanced question.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's why because last years as the season played out,

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<v Speaker 3>that was maybe number one on the list. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>as as the season played out, at least in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of negative outcomes for Ohio State, that might have been

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<v Speaker 3>the single biggest negative outcome for Ohio State, that big

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<v Speaker 3>play at the end of the game. So this year,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Ohio State's defense I'm not expecting to be

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<v Speaker 3>quite as good as Indiana, as I'm not expecting Indian

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<v Speaker 3>to be quite as good as they were last year.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna say that that game is probably a

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<v Speaker 3>little higher scoring this year than it was last year.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's probably not a thirteen to ten kind of

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<v Speaker 3>so it's not necessarily one where the one big play

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<v Speaker 3>completely swings things, and you know the one, the one

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<v Speaker 3>fourth down where you don't make it, the one long

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<v Speaker 3>pass that you know that that doesn't necessarily completely swing

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<v Speaker 3>the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I find you you're downplaying all of these so that

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<v Speaker 2>you can continue to push them down.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm pushing this down. I think to number two

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<v Speaker 3>on the list.

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<v Speaker 1>I still number two.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is still number two. It's just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>This is still because I said, like I said last year,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you could make a very compelling argument that

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<v Speaker 3>this would have been number one on a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>combinations of five significant matchups. But I'll say number two

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<v Speaker 3>just because you know, if Charlie Becker wins that one

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<v Speaker 3>really conclusively, then that you know, even if this is

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<v Speaker 3>a game that's twenty four to twenty one instead of

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen to ten, if he has one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 3>yards and two touchdowns, that swings that game. If Devin

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<v Speaker 3>Sanchez can really lock him down. You know, Indiana does

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<v Speaker 3>not have They've lost several of their other key offensive

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<v Speaker 3>players from last year. So you at this point don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to say, well, they're not gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 3>replace him, because we have seen that they have been

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<v Speaker 3>able to replace guys and have been just fined. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna put this one number two because I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's one where if one of those guys conclusively wins

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<v Speaker 3>that matchup, that could swing that game, and that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a game that could very well be really

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<v Speaker 3>key to if only one of those teams makes that

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<v Speaker 3>game makes the playoff.

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<v Speaker 4>The team that wins that game probably is the one

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<v Speaker 4>that makes it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's number two for you. Here is the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>New Michigan defensive end, John Henry Daily transfer against Philip Daniels,

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<v Speaker 4>I would like to change some of my earlier answers.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so people know what John Henry Daily did in

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<v Speaker 2>the Big twelve a Utah last year, forty eight tackles

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<v Speaker 2>and a half tackles for loss, eleven and a half sacks,

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<v Speaker 2>matched up against Philip Daniels, who should be.

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<v Speaker 1>Better this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but if you're looking at it a one v

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<v Speaker 2>one type of thing, I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna give Michigan the advantage. Now we've seen other

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<v Speaker 2>players transfer from the ACC the Big twelve, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>that the production has been diminished.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's had he had a serious leg injury miss

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<v Speaker 3>spring ball. We don't know what he's gonna be. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe he's here this week, right, isn't he one of

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<v Speaker 3>he's one of the guys. Yes, he's only had eleven

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<v Speaker 3>and a half sacks and seventeen and a half SAT

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<v Speaker 3>tackles for lost once, which that's basically not at all

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<v Speaker 4>Think about it, really like more than us.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, he is someone who when I saw him in

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<v Speaker 3>the portal and Kyle Weddingham's Michigan's coach, I kind of went,

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<v Speaker 3>uh oh, that's that's gonna be problem for Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's gonna be problem for a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>in the Big ten if he's healthy. And we're sort

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<v Speaker 3>of at this point, we're sort of reading tea leaves

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<v Speaker 3>because he didn't play in the spring.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like you could see it taking a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of time.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that he's here is suggestive that, Okay, he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be good to go at the start of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not You're not bringing a guy here if he's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be out on the field until mid

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<v Speaker 3>October or something like that, So that that tells me

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to be healthy at the start of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>And if he's healthy at the start of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we've seen over the years and achilles injury is

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<v Speaker 3>you can not be one hundred percent you know, tough. Forland,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, after his achilles injury, was not quite the

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<v Speaker 3>same player after that. I think, Man, remember when I

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<v Speaker 3>put the Jordan Marshall Payton Pierce thing forth.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why No, I think I put it forth. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>pretty sure if you go back and check the tape.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, and I put the Charlie Becker thing because I

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<v Speaker 3>had the Charlie Becker match up third.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember very clearly that I had that because I

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel I feel really unprepared for this, this

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<v Speaker 3>show that I was forced to come in blind for.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's on me. That's my failure to prepare,

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<v Speaker 3>failure to prepare. Tony is preparing to fail.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard that somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I really want to put this one, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>scared about what else is coming next where it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be. Uh, you know, Cam Coleman against or Jeremiah

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<v Speaker 3>Smith against and it's like, hmmm, well that's not really

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<v Speaker 3>four or five. I feel hemmed into having to put

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<v Speaker 3>this four. But really I think I'm going I have

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<v Speaker 3>to leave myself. I have to leave myself something.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I think you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's how I'm going to hedge this, Tony, like a pro,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to hedge this. You can help out with

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<v Speaker 3>tight ends. You can help out with you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>tight end can stay and back can well John Haynick

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<v Speaker 3>Gay was playing for in a different.

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<v Speaker 4>Conference last year. You can.

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<v Speaker 3>You can help out with a tight end. You can

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<v Speaker 3>help out with a running back. So really the individual

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<v Speaker 3>match up here, Tony, I think it may be little

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<v Speaker 3>misleading to call it an individual matchup because it won't

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<v Speaker 3>be individual. So based solely on that, if it was

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<v Speaker 3>an individual matchup, I would put this right at the

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<v Speaker 3>head of the list.

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<v Speaker 4>But based on that, I'm gonna put this forth.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think we're gonna have to stop doing

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<v Speaker 2>these shows because you've you've broken them.

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<v Speaker 4>Game theory, Friends, game theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Next one, Tom Michigan quarterback Price underwent against Ohio State

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<v Speaker 2>safety Terry Moore.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit different.

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<v Speaker 2>You know this is one where certainly Price Underwood is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna want to throw down field Ohio State, Terry Moore.

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<v Speaker 4>In the face.

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan win lots of football games over the years without

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<v Speaker 3>I think Bryce Underwood, it's entirely possible that Bryce Underwood

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<v Speaker 4>Because you've got back the.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also Terry Moore, does he come up at

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<v Speaker 3>Is we're projecting that he's the deep safety, so maybe

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<v Speaker 3>this is more of an Earl Little matchup where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to talk my way out of putting

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to list here, I think you're gonna be okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And that is Ohio State wide receiver Jeremiah Smith against

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon cornerback Brandon Finnie. Okay, who may be the best

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<v Speaker 2>corner in the car for instance, And this one is

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<v Speaker 2>being played at Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>We know we've seen some big receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>Games, whether it's Oregon and Evan Stewart against Denzel Burke

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty four. Jeremiah certainly in the Rose Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a big game. The big first half kind

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so Jeremiah Smith versus Brandon Finnie, two of the

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, I'm okay with this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is one where if I had to go back

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<v Speaker 3>on the list because we have seen we have seen

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<v Speaker 4>We have seen little guest shot from Tim may there.

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<v Speaker 2>Think as always with Tim May.

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio State the I don't have my copy of Pick

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<v Speaker 3>six previews here right now.

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<v Speaker 4>It's over on the over on the table over.

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<v Speaker 3>There as I'm doing research for some of these some

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<v Speaker 3>of these teams. But he has Brett Siancia has Oregon

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<v Speaker 3>number one, Ohio State two. I mean that that is

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<v Speaker 4>I would probably take the over.

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<v Speaker 3>One and a half on Ohio State Oregon matchups this season.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that's one where it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's another one where I don't think that's going

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a game where you could you could expect,

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<v Speaker 3>have to throw the ball. Jeremiah Smith is the guy

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<v Speaker 3>who is going to be the difference maker for Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 3>And as you said, that is that is a matchup

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<v Speaker 3>of two guys who could be first team All Conference

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<v Speaker 3>that could be a number one versus number two kind

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<v Speaker 3>of game. Absolutely, I think could be. It could be

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<v Speaker 4>The even if you had told me all the questions

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<v Speaker 4>on the test while I was taking the test. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>An open book test. This is you gotta be prepared.

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<v Speaker 4>So an open book test. You see the answers. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>This is.

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<v Speaker 4>This is just when I give you the answers, they

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<v Speaker 3>This is as as as as someone said at one point.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've got a number one, Brandon Finney versus Jeremiah Smith,

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's the one.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I would, I would have that ahead of

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<v Speaker 4>the Jordan Marshall, Peyton Pierce one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think one in five makes sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce Enderwood like quarterback versus safety or quarterback or is

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<v Speaker 2>like quarterback versus anybody. It's a little bit more abstract,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like it's not as he's not just going

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<v Speaker 2>against this one guy. So it's harder to quantify that matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>But how would you rank them? No knowing having more

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<v Speaker 2>information to being.

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<v Speaker 1>Smarter than Tom getting these rankings. You're like watching this

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<v Speaker 1>year like Tom, this is this is ridiculous. Just listen,

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<v Speaker 3>How did you not know that John Henry Daily was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the next name that he said?

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<v Speaker 1>So I hate that thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're watching and if you enjoy these shows where

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<v Speaker 2>we have Tom blindly ranked things and you enjoy the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that he does not like these shows. Let us

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<v Speaker 2>know we'll do more. Is there something you want Tom

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<v Speaker 2>to blindly rank anything? Pop music, TV shows, Tom loves TV.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just yeah, anything like that, anything pertinent to what

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<v Speaker 1>Tie one tie. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>So as always as they saying, you can find the

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<v Speaker 2>said Buckeye on centers dot com, sign up salo to

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So again, please find u stayday.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have a ton of stuff from Bigton Media

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday wand Thursday two. Today, Well, who knows what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Wednesday to blind rank the days you could drop this

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<v Speaker 1>This is not it's a terrible premise. Thank you all

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<v Speaker 1>for tuning again time we'll talk to you all later, No.

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