Speaker 1: Hello, anybody, Welcome to the Lucky Weekly Podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Gerdeman here as always a sophomore town.
Speaker 3: How's it going well, Tony, you told me what this
Speaker 3: show was and I said I hate these shows, and you.
Speaker 1: Said, I said, no, you like them. These are your
Speaker 1: favorite shows. That's what you said the last time we
Speaker 1: did one of these.
Speaker 4: No, no, it is not.
Speaker 3: He knows I don't love these shows, which is why
Speaker 3: we're doing, once again, Tony, blind ranking individual matchups.
Speaker 2: We're blind ranking some any individual matchups this year four
Speaker 2: of the Black Eyes. I'm gonna give Tom a matchup
Speaker 2: between an higher state player and an opposing player, and
Speaker 2: he's gonna rank it between one and five what he
Speaker 2: thinks it's going to be in terms of the most impactful,
Speaker 2: most important, biggest individual matchup. Of course, the problem with
Speaker 2: blind ranking Tom is you're ranking these things blindly.
Speaker 1: Now, what I've never done is I've never.
Speaker 2: Like sold you out or not, the last one being,
Speaker 2: you know, something like Joe Maguire versus the Volcano.
Speaker 4: He said foreshadowingly, Well.
Speaker 1: The problem is I don't put enough forethought into something
Speaker 1: like that. I'm not that kind of person. I'm not
Speaker 1: a bad person.
Speaker 2: So all right, Tom, the first one here, let's go with,
Speaker 2: and this was a pretty big one.
Speaker 1: Jordan Marshall versus Peyton Piers.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Michigan running back Jordan Marshall, who we will
Speaker 3: get to talk to on Thursday.
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll maybe we'll ask him to blind rank this.
Speaker 1: That's a good idea.
Speaker 3: Where do you think you're matchup with Peyton Pierce ranks
Speaker 3: visa be these other four matchups, but you have to
Speaker 3: answer yours and then we'll tell you the other ones one.
Speaker 4: At a time.
Speaker 3: Running back, Yes, So this this feels like now I'm
Speaker 3: going to I'm going to cheat a little bit on
Speaker 3: this one because I think that Savian Hyder could be
Speaker 3: Did we not.
Speaker 4: Do this one already?
Speaker 3: I feel like we talked about Jordan Marshall because I
Speaker 3: feel like I've gone through this Savian Hyder thought process
Speaker 3: all we talked about. Okay, Okay, So I feel like
Speaker 3: Savian Hider by the end of the season could be
Speaker 3: taking on a bigger.
Speaker 4: Role in that Michigan offense.
Speaker 3: And so Jordan Marshall maybe the guy who's getting half
Speaker 3: the carries, but you're you know, you're splitting him.
Speaker 4: Something like that.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to kind of hedge here a little
Speaker 3: bit and say because of that, this is number three
Speaker 3: for me, where because I think there's a real possibility
Speaker 3: that Jordan Marshall himself is ten carries for forty seven
Speaker 3: yards against Ohio State something like that, where it's not
Speaker 3: you know, it's not it's like Chernobyl, not great and
Speaker 3: not terrible. That was three point six yards per carry
Speaker 3: at Churnerobyl. This would be four point seven yards per
Speaker 3: carry for Michigan in Ohio Stadium where you're not winning
Speaker 3: the game there, You're not losing the game there. It's
Speaker 3: it may be it may be that save Vann Hyder
Speaker 3: has eighteen carries that game.
Speaker 4: And so I'm going to hedge a.
Speaker 3: Little bit to protect myself from your malfeasans and you're dastardly.
Speaker 4: What have you.
Speaker 2: That's crazy because the last time we had Jordan Marshall
Speaker 2: against Peton Pierce, you hadn't number one.
Speaker 1: All right, here's one for you.
Speaker 2: Indiana wide receiver Charlie Becker m HM against played Devin
Speaker 2: Sanchez last year. It did not go great for Charlie
Speaker 2: Becker versus Darmade Matthews. Yeah, this year size versus size.
Speaker 3: Sorry to be clear, it did not go well for
Speaker 3: Jamaine Matthews against Charlie Becker.
Speaker 2: Yes, so yes, this year, Whier State goes to Indian,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be throwing the ball, trying to get some
Speaker 2: big chunks downfield.
Speaker 1: Who knows what the running game for the Hoosiers are
Speaker 1: gonna look like.
Speaker 2: Charlie Becker, They're gonna need him step up, Devin Sanchez.
Speaker 2: Can he shut him down?
Speaker 1: Where does this sprank?
Speaker 2: Is it more important than the Ohio State linebacker against
Speaker 2: the Michigan running back.
Speaker 4: So that's a layered and nuanced question.
Speaker 3: And here's why because last years as the season played out,
Speaker 3: that was maybe number one on the list. I mean,
Speaker 3: as as the season played out, at least in terms
Speaker 3: of negative outcomes for Ohio State, that might have been
Speaker 3: the single biggest negative outcome for Ohio State, that big
Speaker 3: play at the end of the game. So this year,
Speaker 3: I think Ohio State's defense I'm not expecting to be
Speaker 3: quite as good as Indiana, as I'm not expecting Indian
Speaker 3: to be quite as good as they were last year.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say that that game is probably a
Speaker 3: little higher scoring this year than it was last year.
Speaker 3: So it's probably not a thirteen to ten kind of
Speaker 3: so it's not necessarily one where the one big play
Speaker 3: completely swings things, and you know the one, the one
Speaker 3: fourth down where you don't make it, the one long
Speaker 3: pass that you know that that doesn't necessarily completely swing
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 2: I find you you're downplaying all of these so that
Speaker 2: you can continue to push them down.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm pushing this down. I think to number two
Speaker 3: on the list.
Speaker 1: I still number two.
Speaker 4: I think this is still number two. It's just, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: This is still because I said, like I said last year,
Speaker 3: I think you could make a very compelling argument that
Speaker 3: this would have been number one on a lot of
Speaker 3: combinations of five significant matchups. But I'll say number two
Speaker 3: just because you know, if Charlie Becker wins that one
Speaker 3: really conclusively, then that you know, even if this is
Speaker 3: a game that's twenty four to twenty one instead of
Speaker 3: thirteen to ten, if he has one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: yards and two touchdowns, that swings that game. If Devin
Speaker 3: Sanchez can really lock him down. You know, Indiana does
Speaker 3: not have They've lost several of their other key offensive
Speaker 3: players from last year. So you at this point don't
Speaker 3: want to say, well, they're not gonna be able to
Speaker 3: replace him, because we have seen that they have been
Speaker 3: able to replace guys and have been just fined. But
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put this one number two because I think
Speaker 3: it's one where if one of those guys conclusively wins
Speaker 3: that matchup, that could swing that game, and that's going
Speaker 3: to be a game that could very well be really
Speaker 3: key to if only one of those teams makes that
Speaker 3: game makes the playoff.
Speaker 4: The team that wins that game probably is the one
Speaker 4: that makes it.
Speaker 2: So that's number two for you. Here is the next one.
Speaker 2: New Michigan defensive end, John Henry Daily transfer against Philip Daniels,
Speaker 2: Ohio State right tackle.
Speaker 4: I would like to change some of my earlier answers.
Speaker 2: Just so people know what John Henry Daily did in
Speaker 2: the Big twelve a Utah last year, forty eight tackles
Speaker 2: and a half tackles for loss, eleven and a half sacks,
Speaker 2: matched up against Philip Daniels, who should be.
Speaker 1: Better this year.
Speaker 2: Yes, but if you're looking at it a one v
Speaker 2: one type of thing, I think a lot of people
Speaker 2: are gonna give Michigan the advantage. Now we've seen other
Speaker 2: players transfer from the ACC the Big twelve, right, and
Speaker 2: that the production has been diminished.
Speaker 3: And he's had he had a serious leg injury miss
Speaker 3: spring ball. We don't know what he's gonna be. I
Speaker 3: believe he's here this week, right, isn't he one of
Speaker 3: he's one of the guys. Yes, he's only had eleven
Speaker 3: and a half sacks and seventeen and a half SAT
Speaker 3: tackles for lost once, which that's basically not at all
Speaker 3: if you.
Speaker 4: Think about it, really like more than us.
Speaker 3: Right, he is someone who when I saw him in
Speaker 3: the portal and Kyle Weddingham's Michigan's coach, I kind of went,
Speaker 3: uh oh, that's that's gonna be problem for Ohio State,
Speaker 3: and it's gonna be problem for a lot of people
Speaker 3: in the Big ten if he's healthy. And we're sort
Speaker 3: of at this point, we're sort of reading tea leaves
Speaker 3: because he didn't play in the spring.
Speaker 4: But that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: So it's like you could see it taking a little
Speaker 1: bit of time.
Speaker 3: The fact that he's here is suggestive that, Okay, he's
Speaker 3: gonna be good to go at the start of the year.
Speaker 3: You're not You're not bringing a guy here if he's
Speaker 3: not going to be out on the field until mid
Speaker 3: October or something like that, So that that tells me
Speaker 3: he's going to be healthy at the start of the year.
Speaker 4: And if he's healthy at the start of the year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen over the years and achilles injury is
Speaker 3: you can not be one hundred percent you know, tough. Forland,
Speaker 3: for example, after his achilles injury, was not quite the
Speaker 3: same player after that. I think, Man, remember when I
Speaker 3: put the Jordan Marshall Payton Pierce thing forth.
Speaker 4: That's why No, I think I put it forth. I'm
Speaker 4: pretty sure if you go back and check the tape.
Speaker 3: Uh, and I put the Charlie Becker thing because I
Speaker 3: had the Charlie Becker match up third.
Speaker 4: I remember very clearly that I had that because I
Speaker 4: should have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel I feel really unprepared for this, this
Speaker 3: show that I was forced to come in blind for.
Speaker 3: And that's that's on me. That's my failure to prepare,
Speaker 3: failure to prepare. Tony is preparing to fail.
Speaker 4: I heard that somewhere.
Speaker 3: Man, I really want to put this one, but I'm
Speaker 3: scared about what else is coming next where it's going
Speaker 3: to be. Uh, you know, Cam Coleman against or Jeremiah
Speaker 3: Smith against and it's like, hmmm, well that's not really
Speaker 3: four or five. I feel hemmed into having to put
Speaker 3: this four. But really I think I'm going I have
Speaker 3: to leave myself. I have to leave myself something.
Speaker 4: Because I think you can.
Speaker 3: Here's how I'm going to hedge this, Tony, like a pro,
Speaker 3: I'm going to hedge this. You can help out with
Speaker 3: tight ends. You can help out with you know, hey,
Speaker 3: tight end can stay and back can well John Haynick
Speaker 3: Gay was playing for in a different.
Speaker 4: Conference last year. You can.
Speaker 3: You can help out with a tight end. You can
Speaker 3: help out with a running back. So really the individual
Speaker 3: match up here, Tony, I think it may be little
Speaker 3: misleading to call it an individual matchup because it won't
Speaker 3: be individual. So based solely on that, if it was
Speaker 3: an individual matchup, I would put this right at the
Speaker 3: head of the list.
Speaker 4: But based on that, I'm gonna put this forth.
Speaker 2: You know, I think we're gonna have to stop doing
Speaker 2: these shows because you've you've broken them.
Speaker 4: Game theory, Friends, game theory.
Speaker 2: Next one, Tom Michigan quarterback Price underwent against Ohio State
Speaker 2: safety Terry Moore.
Speaker 1: A little bit different.
Speaker 2: You know this is one where certainly Price Underwood is
Speaker 2: gonna want to throw down field Ohio State, Terry Moore.
Speaker 1: Is gonna want to you know, eliminate keep that from happening.
Speaker 2: This is quarterback versus safety is more of like an
Speaker 2: abstract kind of situation.
Speaker 1: Quarterback versus right right, but also.
Speaker 2: Can be the difference in operationally who succeeds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I can either put this one the
Speaker 3: matchup of Michigan's quarterback against Ohio State number one or
Speaker 3: number five on this list, which puts me in a
Speaker 3: great position not knowing what else there is. If it
Speaker 3: is Joe versus the volcano, I'm going to punch you.
Speaker 3: I'm just like you know, I will turn the camera
Speaker 3: off so there's not video evidence, and then I'm going
Speaker 3: to punch you directly.
Speaker 4: In the face.
Speaker 3: I think I'm going five with this one. And here's why.
Speaker 3: Because Michigan can win the game against Ohio State without
Speaker 3: throwing the ball deep. Ohio State can win the ball,
Speaker 3: win the game against Michigan without having Terry Moore have
Speaker 3: two interceptions. Whatever, Michigan is going to try to win
Speaker 3: the game, throw it. You know, they're saying all the
Speaker 3: right things about Bryce Underwood. Bryce Underwood is here this week,
Speaker 3: which tells you that they're positioning Bryce.
Speaker 4: Underwood as a as a leader.
Speaker 3: I continue to say, I'm not writing Bryce Underwood off,
Speaker 3: but we haven't seen it yet. And we have seen
Speaker 3: Michigan win lots of football games over the years without
Speaker 3: great quarterback play. We have seen we have seen Michigan
Speaker 3: win football games against Ohio State without.
Speaker 4: Throwing the ball a lot.
Speaker 3: I think Bryce Underwood, it's entirely possible that Bryce Underwood
Speaker 3: is a key player in the Ohio State Michigan game
Speaker 3: this year with his legs.
Speaker 4: Because you've got back the.
Speaker 3: New offensive coordinator for them, he came comes over from BYU.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of QB run in that offense.
Speaker 3: I think you may see Bryce Underwood making more plays
Speaker 3: with his legs this year well.
Speaker 1: And then also Terry Moore, does he come up at
Speaker 1: that point?
Speaker 3: Is we're projecting that he's the deep safety, so maybe
Speaker 3: he's out of the play a little bit more. And
Speaker 3: this is more of an Earl Little matchup where you know,
Speaker 3: Earl Little's playing in the box a little bit more,
Speaker 3: or Jaylen McClain's playing in.
Speaker 4: The box a little bit more.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to talk my way out of putting
Speaker 3: the Michigan quarterback versus Ohio State at the bottom of
Speaker 3: my list. With with all of that hedging, I feel
Speaker 3: pretty proud of myself right now, but I'm bracing myself
Speaker 3: for whatever the last the last matchup.
Speaker 2: You're going to list here, I think you're gonna be okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: And that is Ohio State wide receiver Jeremiah Smith against
Speaker 2: Oregon cornerback Brandon Finnie. Okay, who may be the best
Speaker 2: corner in the car for instance, And this one is
Speaker 2: being played at Ohio State.
Speaker 1: We know we've seen some big receiver.
Speaker 2: Games, whether it's Oregon and Evan Stewart against Denzel Burke
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. Jeremiah certainly in the Rose Bowl,
Speaker 2: I had a big game. The big first half kind
Speaker 2: of disappeared.
Speaker 3: In the second half, if I recall when they were
Speaker 3: up by thirty five points.
Speaker 2: Yes, so Jeremiah Smith versus Brandon Finnie, two of the
Speaker 2: premiere players athletes in the Big tim.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I'm okay with this.
Speaker 3: This is one where if I had to go back
Speaker 3: and reorder things, I'd probably shuffle some things around a
Speaker 3: little bit, But I'm okay with this being number one
Speaker 3: on the list because we have seen we have seen
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith against Oregon.
Speaker 4: We have seen little guest shot from Tim may there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we we I.
Speaker 2: Think as always with Tim May.
Speaker 3: We, I I can see I can see this being
Speaker 3: a legitimate number one on the list because Oregon and
Speaker 3: Ohio State the I don't have my copy of Pick
Speaker 3: six previews here right now.
Speaker 4: It's over on the over on the table over.
Speaker 3: There as I'm doing research for some of these some
Speaker 3: of these teams. But he has Brett Siancia has Oregon
Speaker 3: number one, Ohio State two. I mean that that is
Speaker 3: that very well could be a matchup we see three
Speaker 3: times this year, at least two.
Speaker 4: I would probably take the over.
Speaker 3: One and a half on Ohio State Oregon matchups this season.
Speaker 3: I think that that's one where it's going to be.
Speaker 3: That's that's another one where I don't think that's going
Speaker 3: to be a thirteen to ten kind of game this year.
Speaker 3: I think that's a game where you could you could expect,
Speaker 3: you know, at least in the twenties and you know,
Speaker 3: maybe a thirty something to twenty something you're going to
Speaker 3: have to throw the ball. Jeremiah Smith is the guy
Speaker 3: who is going to be the difference maker for Ohio State.
Speaker 3: And as you said, that is that is a matchup
Speaker 3: of two guys who could be first team All Conference
Speaker 3: players and who going head to head in a game
Speaker 3: that could be a number one versus number two kind
Speaker 3: of game. Absolutely, I think could be. It could be
Speaker 3: a very legitimate number one. Even if you had given
Speaker 3: me all of.
Speaker 4: The even if you had told me all the questions
Speaker 4: on the test while I was taking the test. No, no,
Speaker 4: this is not.
Speaker 1: An open book test. This is you gotta be prepared.
Speaker 4: So an open book test. You see the answers. I'm
Speaker 4: just looking to see the questions.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 4: This is just when I give you the answers, they
Speaker 4: changed the questions. This is.
Speaker 3: This is as as as as someone said at one point.
Speaker 2: So you've got a number one, Brandon Finney versus Jeremiah Smith,
Speaker 2: Number two, Charlie Becker versus Devin Sanchez, number three, Jordan
Speaker 2: Marshall versus Payton Piers.
Speaker 1: Number four, John Henry Daily versus Philip Jamiel.
Speaker 4: That's that's the one.
Speaker 3: I would move up up the list if I had
Speaker 3: this to do Oliver I at least at least three,
Speaker 3: at least three and maybe two.
Speaker 4: I kind of want to.
Speaker 3: I kind of want to see him against Oklahoma and
Speaker 3: see what he looks like against good opposition this year,
Speaker 3: to see if he's twenty twenty, you know, twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five John Henry Daily, or if he's a little lesser
Speaker 3: than that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I would, I would have that ahead of
Speaker 4: the Jordan Marshall, Peyton Pierce one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think one in five makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: Bryce Enderwood like quarterback versus safety or quarterback or is
Speaker 2: like quarterback versus anybody. It's a little bit more abstract,
Speaker 2: so it's like it's not as he's not just going
Speaker 2: against this one guy. So it's harder to quantify that matchup.
Speaker 2: But how would you rank them? No knowing having more
Speaker 2: information to being.
Speaker 1: Smarter than Tom getting these rankings. You're like watching this
Speaker 1: year like Tom, this is this is ridiculous. Just listen,
Speaker 1: just study this.
Speaker 3: How did you not know that John Henry Daily was
Speaker 3: going to be the next name that he said?
Speaker 4: Okay, how did you not anticipate that?
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