Speaker 1: Oklahoma City has advanced to the NBA Finals. They will
Speaker 1: represent the Western Conference deserveverly so. After just dump trucking
Speaker 1: Minnesota last night, the New York Knicks will try to
Speaker 1: make it interesting. They're down three to one MSG tonight.
Speaker 1: That is a six o'clock Mountains on tip on TNT.
Speaker 1: Could this be the final night for inside the NBA
Speaker 1: on TNT. We'll have to wait and see. A few
Speaker 1: weeks away from the NBA Draft, RSL cannot hold on
Speaker 1: to a lead. A lot to talk to our next
Speaker 1: guest about on his birthday week. Happy birthday, Andy Larson.
Speaker 1: How are you, Bud?
Speaker 2: Thank you? I'm doing well?
Speaker 1: Thirty nine, thirty eight? What do we got?
Speaker 2: Thirty four?
Speaker 1: Man on Teason. I know you're a young but now,
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, on your thirtieth birthday, you tweeted
Speaker 1: out that you were washed. What do you at thirty four?
Speaker 2: Even more wash? I mean, look, I had a soccer
Speaker 2: game yesterday. We lost five to one. We are even
Speaker 2: worse than rails the lake. It is. Yeah, I'm flo.
Speaker 2: I can't move. People were like getting knee injuries. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's rough out there.
Speaker 1: It's rough. Scenes. I love that you just compared your
Speaker 1: rec soccer team to RSL. That rules who are if
Speaker 1: you're if I'd ask you who the RSL equivalent? So
Speaker 1: who would you be on your on your rec team
Speaker 1: of this year's version of Ursel.
Speaker 2: Force for Jago. So, I do play a good deal
Speaker 2: of forward, and look, I'm trying out there. I'm doing
Speaker 2: my very best. It's just definitely not enough, not anywhere close.
Speaker 2: And I should be sent down to maybe the over
Speaker 2: forty leagues soon or the over thirty third division, whatever
Speaker 2: it is. I need to be sent down to a
Speaker 2: lower league where I can compete for real.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, fair enough. I was gonna say Forrester did
Speaker 1: get sent down, So I'm glad you pointed that out. Look, man,
Speaker 1: since we're in the space, we'll stay in the space.
Speaker 1: At least our guy, Willie Big Willy Goals as we
Speaker 1: call him on the show, finally got a goal off
Speaker 1: a nice little set piece and then you know it's money. Man.
Speaker 1: I just have and I hate to be this guy.
Speaker 1: I just have no confidence in this group. But I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there watching last night. I'm like, they're not gonna
Speaker 1: hold the lead. They're not gonna hold the lead, and
Speaker 1: sure enough they don't. So a point on the road
Speaker 1: typically is a good thing, but it's another late game
Speaker 1: collapse and the galaxy of not won this year. Something
Speaker 1: tells me that I might win on Saturday. Just where
Speaker 1: are we at right now with the club? Andy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're terrible, and there are some good
Speaker 2: moments yesterday and yeah, but then in the end, like
Speaker 2: set piece marking has been so bad over the last
Speaker 2: couple of games, like just letting opposing guys get free
Speaker 2: headers within frames of goal, Like it just doesn't make
Speaker 2: sense how those are being defended, and that's been a
Speaker 2: problem for ourselves for a lot of this year, along
Speaker 2: with as you mentioned, the late game. Leeds look like
Speaker 2: they are at the bottom of near the bottom of
Speaker 2: the Western Conference. Austin's not a good team either. They're
Speaker 2: not a playoff team right now. And you know, it
Speaker 2: feels like you're halfway through the are actually halfway through
Speaker 2: the season, right they are one game short and halfway
Speaker 2: through it feels like this isn't the year. And so
Speaker 2: at this point I think the plan should be to
Speaker 2: prioritize young talent. I mean, we heard a Mecca and
Speaker 2: Nelly is out for at least a month, maybe two
Speaker 2: with an injury. It's probably time to like prioritize Yeglena,
Speaker 2: prioritize Davior Gozo, Dominic Mark Soup, even like body Hidalgo's
Speaker 2: relatively young on on the outside back, I mean, like
Speaker 2: Nelson Platio in the middle, like and just see what
Speaker 2: you have I guess with some of these guys. But
Speaker 2: you know, it's maybe even rotate goalkeeper, even as good
Speaker 2: as Raphael Sprawl's been, because like in the end, it's
Speaker 2: hard to imagine this team getting back into it when
Speaker 2: they have this much of a talent deficit and when
Speaker 2: they you know, don't seem to have any chemistry to
Speaker 2: speak up.
Speaker 1: Kind of an interesting dynamic on the show over the
Speaker 1: past week with my RSL So Pablo joins the program and,
Speaker 1: among other things, drops the tidbit that new ownership has
Speaker 1: informed him they're not interested in selling young players anymore.
Speaker 1: They want to change their approach. Kurt hops on and
Speaker 1: he was more kind of sitting on the fence about it.
Speaker 1: Then Jason hopped on yesterday and basically said, Pablo was
Speaker 1: a little bit over dramatic about it. I don't exactly
Speaker 1: know where to nail it down. I mean, look, as
Speaker 1: I continue to say, if some European club or some
Speaker 1: Mexican club calls and says, I don't know, twenty thirty
Speaker 1: mil for Diego, you're going to do that, I get it.
Speaker 1: But if the Millers really have kind of done their calculation,
Speaker 1: and you know, the Millers showed as stewards of the
Speaker 1: Jazz they would do what they had to do to
Speaker 1: make sure this team was always competitive. They never really
Speaker 1: tried to lose, they never tried to tank. And you know,
Speaker 1: it was kind of interesting at that media round table
Speaker 1: listening to their thoughts on how the Jazz are being
Speaker 1: run right now. So they have a track record of
Speaker 1: putting a competitive team on the court with the Jazz,
Speaker 1: and I think they'll show that they'll do that with RSL.
Speaker 1: But how does that news, whatever exactly it means, land
Speaker 1: with you that maybe you know, are if RSL is
Speaker 1: able to develop really really good young players, this new
Speaker 1: ownership group wants to keep them around for a while.
Speaker 2: Look, I mean I like that, and I think that's
Speaker 2: good and I think, you know, obviously it wants to
Speaker 2: see the best product possible on the pitch. I also
Speaker 2: think that it's a little bit unrealistic about given where
Speaker 2: RSL stands in the global soccer world, right, Like in
Speaker 2: the end, is Diego Luna really actually going to be
Speaker 2: happy playing at RSL for his entire career? Yes, but
Speaker 2: you know, like in the end, I don't think that
Speaker 2: that is likely. And you know, certainly at least Diego
Speaker 2: has some local ties and has found them familiarity here.
Speaker 2: But like guys like Andreskiemez, we're clearly just using RSL
Speaker 2: as a wrong on the ladder, right, And so it
Speaker 2: is unrealistic to expect to keep those guys here in
Speaker 2: Salt Lake when they are not happy here and they
Speaker 2: want to go on to greater things, not in MLS
Speaker 2: but overseas, and so look, I mean, I think that's
Speaker 2: good and you can keep them for longer, and maybe
Speaker 2: you are more strategic about when you sell them rather
Speaker 2: than just trying to get top dollar. I think there
Speaker 2: is room for that. But I do think that, like
Speaker 2: if you imagine how to get RFL successful in Major
Speaker 2: League Soccer, it does have to involve young players developing
Speaker 2: to some degree, and then you know, you can put
Speaker 2: des many players around them and figure kind of that
Speaker 2: out and yes, then if you do have one or
Speaker 2: two guys who are happy that want to stay upet
Speaker 2: Lake for their whole careers, then think great, please by
Speaker 2: all means sign them up rather than get that check
Speaker 2: just for selling on their rights. But yeah, it doesn't
Speaker 2: strike me as super realistic given where RSL is in
Speaker 2: the global soccer spectrum.
Speaker 1: Last thing here, and this is a dynamic that all
Speaker 1: three of my RSEL guests over the past week have
Speaker 1: been in lockstep about Pablo, Kurt and Jason, two attacking
Speaker 1: players away from being among the better teams in the league.
Speaker 1: So the summer transfer window will open in July, and
Speaker 1: if you look at the schedule, if they're able to
Speaker 1: act really quickly, they will have thirteen matches left. Now,
Speaker 1: if they wait until closer to the end of the
Speaker 1: secondary summer transfer window, they'll have seven or eight matches left.
Speaker 1: I can't remember off the top of my head. So
Speaker 1: my whole thing is like, look, if you claim that
Speaker 1: you were really close during the primary transfer window the
Speaker 1: closed last month to getting a few things across the line,
Speaker 1: if that's real, then be prepared to get these things
Speaker 1: across the line as soon as you can. When the
Speaker 1: summer window opens. So two part question before we get
Speaker 1: some basketball. Do you agree that you know, theoretically speaking,
Speaker 1: it depends on who the players are, but two attacking
Speaker 1: players away. Do you agree that that's the need right now?
Speaker 1: And do you think there will be enough time to
Speaker 1: salvage something this year if they can act quickly when
Speaker 1: the summer window opens.
Speaker 2: I think they I agree with them that clearly the
Speaker 2: attack is the largest problem. I think they have been
Speaker 2: significantly overconfident on the defensive end and have been just
Speaker 2: you know, frankly exposed defensively multiple times this year in
Speaker 2: a way that only Rafael Cabral being amazing, has has
Speaker 2: shaved them. And it's probably not sustainable defensively either. So
Speaker 2: I have significantly more fastimism about them, and actually did
Speaker 2: even from that roundtable from the beginning of the years,
Speaker 2: than you know, than they have. So I'm not sure
Speaker 2: why they believe in the glad they're a back line
Speaker 2: as much as they do. I'm not sure why they
Speaker 2: believe in the outside back situation as much as they do.
Speaker 2: But anyway, in the end, yet you do need to
Speaker 2: attacking players, and if you are able to sign them
Speaker 2: with thirteen games less then yeah, maybe you have a chance.
Speaker 2: But then we always hear when these signings happen that
Speaker 2: it takes weeks to integrate these guys, that they always
Speaker 2: you know, they always come off you know, coming off
Speaker 2: bench to begin and if you're getting players from Europe
Speaker 2: for most of the leagues in the world, they probably
Speaker 2: are coming off of a summer break to some extent.
Speaker 2: So like, I'm really skeptical that, like, yeah, you can
Speaker 2: get all of that done in time in order to
Speaker 2: make a move when you know, I look at what
Speaker 2: happened during the winter window and what happened during last
Speaker 2: summer transfer window and did not see that urgency. And
Speaker 2: you know, even when a Champions League spot was on
Speaker 2: the line, they flow played it. So you know, maybe
Speaker 2: different ownership group, maybe we'll see different things, but it
Speaker 2: is the same management group and they have not shown
Speaker 2: an affinity for getting deals done quickly.
Speaker 1: All right, moving over to some basketball, A let's do
Speaker 1: some jazz. And actually, I know you listen every minute
Speaker 1: of the show, so I'm sure you heard the open,
Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you for listeners that did
Speaker 1: not hear it like you did. The Dwyane Wade jazz
Speaker 1: stuff Okay, so we were talking. We were talking during
Speaker 1: the first segment of the show about some difficult years
Speaker 1: as Knicks fans, Ron Baker, Clean, Anthony Early and such
Speaker 1: and non secuit or kind of turned into a conversation
Speaker 1: about the Jazz and is Dwayne Wade still around at all?
Speaker 1: Was he ever really a minority owner? Was that just
Speaker 1: like hey, Donovan, look, I have cool friends. You should
Speaker 1: live in Salt Lake. That didn't work? Like, what what
Speaker 1: is Dwayne Wade in the Utah Jazz? What is it? Andy? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean like he's he's real, that's on paper, like
Speaker 2: he does actually on a part of the team. I
Speaker 2: think it's relatively clear, given that he chose the Jazz
Speaker 2: over the Miami Heat. And it has been reported multiple
Speaker 2: places that he had conversations with Mickey Erison about potentially
Speaker 2: buying his life and it sounded like it was just
Speaker 2: too much that it sounds like Ryan Smith gave him
Speaker 2: a somewhat of a discount in buying whatever share of
Speaker 2: the Jazz he has. The NBA bylaws say that you
Speaker 2: have to have at least one percent if you're going
Speaker 2: to be a minority owner, So you know, that's a
Speaker 2: relatively significant amount, you know, compared to some other leagues
Speaker 2: that do it differently. And then I would say, but yeah,
Speaker 2: like is he involved day to day and like who
Speaker 2: the Jazz are gonna draft? No, Like he's very much
Speaker 2: onto other things right now, and more so now than
Speaker 2: ever because the Jazz are bad. You know, Like I
Speaker 2: do think that, like he was a figurehead there for
Speaker 2: a while and in kind of a useful way for
Speaker 2: the Jazz as as a owner, you know, like he
Speaker 2: opened up some doors, started some conversations that make it
Speaker 2: make sense why the Smith Ownership Group would give him
Speaker 2: a discount on an ownership stake. But now I think,
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's fair to say that those
Speaker 2: relationships have opened the door. You know, those doors have
Speaker 2: already opened a little bit. And yeah, he's pulled back
Speaker 2: a little bit. So like I feel like it feels
Speaker 2: like shruk tink to me, to be honest. It feels
Speaker 2: like you get Mark Cuban as your partner and it's great,
Speaker 2: and then you know, Mark Cuban buys ten percent of
Speaker 2: a share in your company for fifteen thousand dollars and
Speaker 2: you've got the fifteen thousand dollars and Mark Cuban connected
Speaker 2: you to three different people that were useful and then
Speaker 2: probably pieced out and went to go do his own
Speaker 2: other stuff. Right Like, that's that's what Dwayne Wade is
Speaker 2: to the Utah Jazz right now?
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. I just wanted a little bit of
Speaker 1: clarity there because there was a lot of ambiguity about
Speaker 1: the entire thing. All right, let's go here. Is there anything,
Speaker 1: because you know you're watching Oklahoma City and I've tried
Speaker 1: to do this all year, whether it's you know, when
Speaker 1: Orlando was playing a little a little bit better or Detroit,
Speaker 1: who was the worst team in basketball last year suddenly
Speaker 1: showed at Poltz. Is there anything that we can learn
Speaker 1: from the way Sam Presty has gone about his business
Speaker 1: to build this Oklahoma City Thunder team into this juggernaut
Speaker 1: who I think is gonna win it this year and
Speaker 1: probably will win it next year. And maybe I know
Speaker 1: that the luxury tax situation and the second Apron will
Speaker 1: come calling at some point because that's how it's designed
Speaker 1: to work. But they're awesome this year. They're young. They'll
Speaker 1: extend Shay, They're going to extend Jalen, They're going to
Speaker 1: extend chat and even if they have to trim some
Speaker 1: fat around the edges. They have a bunch of different
Speaker 1: draft picks, and they've just knocked every pick out of
Speaker 1: the park. They grab Lou Dort undrafted, they turn Josh
Speaker 1: Gideon Alex Caruso, who's been perfect. Is there anything that
Speaker 1: the Jazz can learn from this or is this an
Speaker 1: outlier in Sam Presty is just a genius.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think you can say that tanking
Speaker 2: does work like can work. Maybe not does all the time,
Speaker 2: but clearly has in this instance. I think you can
Speaker 2: say that it's clearly important to nail when you do
Speaker 2: trade your superstars away, to nail what you can get
Speaker 2: in return. Obviously getting Sga back as a whole lot
Speaker 2: better than getting call and Sexton back. I think you
Speaker 2: can say that, yes, nailing the draft picks and at
Speaker 2: least giving yourself a lot of really good draft picks,
Speaker 2: that's really important. You know that Uzman jang Is is nobody,
Speaker 2: but Jalen Williams is an all star second banana on
Speaker 2: an NBA Finals team, and they're drafted in kind of
Speaker 2: that similar ten or twelve range in the lottery where
Speaker 2: you know, one guy succeeded one guy failed, and that's
Speaker 2: how that goes. Obviously, they drafted really well in some
Speaker 2: other slots too, but you know they had for every
Speaker 2: chat home grin. They also have a poku right like
Speaker 2: it did happen? I think you can say that, like,
Speaker 2: I'm impressed with kind of the way that they've rotated
Speaker 2: through given guys chances and and kind of kept players
Speaker 2: who fit and moved relatively quickly off of guys who didn't.
Speaker 2: You know, like there was like the Gordon Hayward experiment,
Speaker 2: which they moved on from me extremely quickly. But guys
Speaker 2: like Kenrick Williams and I Dad Joe and Aaron Wiggins.
Speaker 2: You know, I guess everone Wiggins a new one but
Speaker 2: has have lasted longer and fa kind of in their culture. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think they are kind of a lot of good
Speaker 2: lessons that are probably like difficult to apply immediately to
Speaker 2: any given situation you're trying to make this year, Like
Speaker 2: who should you draft with the number five pick? It's
Speaker 2: hard to be like, well, the Oklahoma City thunder are
Speaker 2: doing it this way, and so we should copy them, right, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's the right approach to drafting
Speaker 2: at number five, but I do think like just kind
Speaker 2: of their patience and basketball evaluation skills is something that
Speaker 2: you can kind of look at and emulate or try
Speaker 2: to emulate to some degree.
Speaker 1: All Right, moving over to the Jazz now, before we
Speaker 1: get to the draft, I have not asked you if
Speaker 1: you have heard anything about Walker about Walker Kessler, because
Speaker 1: he is eligible for an extension. It feels like it's
Speaker 1: a no brainer. It feels like it's probably a foregone conclusion.
Speaker 1: They do have the ability, like they did with Gordon,
Speaker 1: to have him play his final year this contract out
Speaker 1: and then bet on himself if they want to go
Speaker 1: in that direction. Are you hearing anything about whether or
Speaker 1: not they're going to extend Walker this offseason or let
Speaker 1: him play the final year of his rookie deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we actually did talk about this last week.
Speaker 2: I have not heard anything. Those conversations would be much
Speaker 2: later on in the summer, given kind of when the
Speaker 2: NBA's rules allowed to extend guys. But my guess is
Speaker 2: kind of based on what makes sense and where the
Speaker 2: Jazz are capwise, that it probably makes sense for you
Speaker 2: to do that extension now rather than next year, because
Speaker 2: you potentially, in my mind anyway have the ability to
Speaker 2: get him at a lower number now, assuming that he
Speaker 2: plays well and you know, has played thirty five minutes
Speaker 2: a night next year and continues to grow. So that's
Speaker 2: kind of my thought. But yeah, we shall see, you know.
Speaker 2: I think there is a possibility that Walker looks around
Speaker 2: and wants to see what else is out there. But
Speaker 2: like in the end, mostly everyone's just going to go
Speaker 2: get the money out for their rookie deal. And yeah,
Speaker 2: it would would make some sense to for I think
Speaker 2: Walker and the Jazz to kind of lock him up
Speaker 2: in the long term.
Speaker 1: We did talk about it last week. My bad, Have
Speaker 1: you dug in on any of the because I have
Speaker 1: the free agent list in front of me, uh not.
Speaker 1: A lot of teams have space and at some point,
Speaker 1: you know, players got to decide that if he can't
Speaker 1: get his you know, optimal landing spot, maybe he looks elsewhere.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Jazz get involved with any of
Speaker 1: the notable free agents on the board. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think Golden State's can move on from cominga. That could
Speaker 1: be an interesting situation because he's still young and there
Speaker 1: were reports that when the Jazz were talking to Golden
Speaker 1: State about market in I don't know how real any
Speaker 1: of it was that Jonathan Kaminga was a name that
Speaker 1: was banded about. Any any thoughts on the Jazz potentially
Speaker 1: moving outside of the typical boxes we talk about dadd
Speaker 1: some talent via free agency. Do you think that's a
Speaker 1: real thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think they have fifteen guys coming back.
Speaker 2: They actually have no free agents of their own that
Speaker 2: they could lose. I mean, they have some non guaranteed
Speaker 2: guys you can wave and open up spots, but you need, frankly,
Speaker 2: to wave all four non guaranteed guys to open up
Speaker 2: four spots for your four draft picks this year. They
Speaker 2: also don't have any cap space really to speak of
Speaker 2: a little bit, but like certainly not enough to get
Speaker 2: Jonathan Kaminga, uh, because you still have Jordan Parkson and
Speaker 2: John Collins and Collins Suxton on the books, right So
Speaker 2: maybe if you trade one of those guys to another
Speaker 2: team for free, but again, then who is that team
Speaker 2: and why do they want John Collins given that they
Speaker 2: have cap space and could go get Jonathan Aminga, who
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I would say is probably the worst
Speaker 2: player right now. But if you have cap space in
Speaker 2: this market, you're probably looking for more upside than the
Speaker 2: younger player like Tomenka has. So yeah, you know, I
Speaker 2: could see them going maybe the cominga out in the trade.
Speaker 2: But also if Cominga were interesting to the jazz or
Speaker 2: really interesting to him to them, then maybe you would
Speaker 2: have made the marketing trade a year ago. Right, So
Speaker 2: I you know, kind of at least those those outlets
Speaker 2: that you mentioned, I don't see them chasing after I
Speaker 2: could see them, you know, taking a swing on like
Speaker 2: a low valued star like a Trey Young as Zion Williamson.
Speaker 2: But David Locke idea, like I don't think that's unimaginable.
Speaker 2: But in the free agency market, I don't know how
Speaker 2: that would play out.
Speaker 1: The David Locke ideas trading for Zion Williamson. Yeah, what trade?
Speaker 1: What for Williamson?
Speaker 2: Number five pick?
Speaker 1: Trade five for Zion Williamson. Huh all right, okay, I
Speaker 1: had not heard that. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I mean, so his point of
Speaker 2: view is like, hey, you know, you wanted the number
Speaker 2: one pick, so you had a chance at a star
Speaker 2: like a former number one pick, and Zion Williamson, who,
Speaker 2: by the way, is still kind of a mystery box
Speaker 2: due to injuries and off court issues and a weird
Speaker 2: situation in New Orleans and everything else, right, like, and
Speaker 2: if you do just truly won a shot at All
Speaker 2: Star talent like Zian is a guy who really can
Speaker 2: put up twenty five and ten. I'm worried about it
Speaker 2: because clearly physically he's not the same player he was
Speaker 2: two or three years ago, not just from a weight
Speaker 2: point of view, but from an athleticism point of view.
Speaker 2: And I think it was all that athleticism that made
Speaker 2: him really special. I don't think that I would be
Speaker 2: excited to pay out that contact if he's the player
Speaker 2: that he currently is. And then, you know, I think again,
Speaker 2: if we're maybe this is one path or Oklahoma that
Speaker 2: he did teach us lessons is that they weren't ever
Speaker 2: making those gambles on stars, right Like they never have said, oh,
Speaker 2: we have one gazillion draft picks, why not trade one
Speaker 2: for a guy and see if it works out, Like
Speaker 2: they always stayed true to that, And I think you
Speaker 2: look at you know, I'd be a lot of the
Speaker 2: other good teams in the league. A Gale. The Pacers did
Speaker 2: trade picks for Pascal Siakam. I guess they made a
Speaker 2: gamble and going for a younger player in Tyrese Haliburton.
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't see how that necessarily makes
Speaker 2: sense with where the Jazz are because, Uh, in the end,
Speaker 2: I don't believe in zign Enough as a prospect, and
Speaker 2: I just even with him playing extremely well, you're still
Speaker 2: so far away.
Speaker 1: Porter. Didn't we discuss trading for Zion Williamson prior to
Speaker 1: the NBA trade deadline in February on this radio show? Shortly?
Speaker 1: Does it sound like David Locke is blatantly stealing my
Speaker 1: ideas to uh to to uh essentially, you know, send
Speaker 1: those messages out to his audience the uh the highest
Speaker 1: form of flattery. Yeah, will you go if you if
Speaker 1: you go that way, will you contact legal allegedly? Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell them that I've got to complain about Locke several Actually,
Speaker 1: all right, moving on a kid as we are, let's
Speaker 1: see about four weeks in change away from the draft, Andy,
Speaker 1: have you landed on who you believe best case scenario
Speaker 1: is at number five for the Jazz if they stay there.
Speaker 2: No, I still have to I still don't know.
Speaker 1: You had Cinco de Mayo on your birthday. This month. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I know that you've been busy.
Speaker 2: Look, and I don't know that the Jazz have decided
Speaker 2: either in my defense, right, Like, uh, I think it's
Speaker 2: really interesting to think about, like who Philadelphia wants a three.
Speaker 2: I would say, like the analytics and Jamory being an
Speaker 2: analytics kind of decision maker, would probably put vg edgecomb
Speaker 2: as the number three guy. But then, you know, does
Speaker 2: that make sense given that you have Terry's Maxie already.
Speaker 2: I don't know that it truly does, but maybe you're
Speaker 2: just trying to get best player available and then uh
Speaker 2: for four just Charlotte one. I mean, like again, just
Speaker 2: I don't know that that makes sense for them to
Speaker 2: get another wing in like an Ace Bailey type. It's
Speaker 2: just a weird setup. I think Kay Johnson is a
Speaker 2: reasonable prospect and player, Like I don't think he's going
Speaker 2: to become Ray Allen. And I am worried about the defense.
Speaker 2: I am worried about stuff, but like I thought, he
Speaker 2: interviewed well when I talked him, when we talked hibout
Speaker 2: the combine, and I thought, like, you know, I think
Speaker 2: he does have some real NBA skills that you can
Speaker 2: bring along. I don't think he's going to be like
Speaker 2: a super duper star. But I do think like the
Speaker 2: buddy heeled path makes a lot of sense for him,
Speaker 2: and I think that's a relatively good outcome in this draft.
Speaker 2: I do worry about a Sley a lot based on
Speaker 2: how he interviewed at the Combine. When I talked to him,
Speaker 2: I mean, he was just so focused on getting more
Speaker 2: of his shots up that I both at his time
Speaker 2: in records and in his interviews that I think being
Speaker 2: on a bad team like the Jazz could only kind
Speaker 2: of enforce that. And then you end up with a
Speaker 2: brandon Ingram style player, and I don't love that. And
Speaker 2: then yeah, j you know, I think is a really
Speaker 2: promising prospect that doesn't have a lot of offensive ability
Speaker 2: right now, and so you're hoping and betting on his
Speaker 2: athleticism near skills coaches. But yeah, it's it's not an
Speaker 2: easy pick. And I do think like to some degree,
Speaker 2: you probably if you do just stay at number five.
Speaker 2: Just which of those three guys ends up falling to you?
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