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let's get into it. Reading between the lies. J Hill
defensive coordinator, what's your assessment of your defense at this
point in the season.
Speaker 6: Well, we've had moments where we were outstanding and then
moment before we got to clean things up.
Speaker 3: Seven and oh.
Speaker 6: If you'd asked me that at the start of the year,
I'd have taken it for sure. I think statistically speaking,
we're doing a lot of great things, and then, like
I say, there's some things that we can still clean
up right now.
Speaker 2: He said he'd take it.
Speaker 1: You give him an opportunity to be seven and oh
through seven games. He wouldn't bet on it, right, No
one's betting these days. No one's gambling these days. No
one wants to be able associated with the gambler. But
he would have taken it if you offered it to him.
Speaker 2: Seven and oh baby. That's where the coops all right
right now.
Speaker 5: I mean we talked about it yesterday the DraftKings sportsbook
preview at BYU over under.
Speaker 2: Six and a half games.
Speaker 5: I am curious what the coaches really think and not
what they'll say, Like what.
Speaker 2: Does Jay does Jay Hill at the beginning of the season,
does he.
Speaker 5: Truly believe, oh, yeah, we're gonna go twelve and oh
or because Look, there's the competitive side, which I get,
but there's also the realistic side that you don't say
out loud and you just go, you know, like, we
have some things working against us.
Speaker 2: We lost some guys.
Speaker 5: We don't know what our quarterback's gonna be, Like, I'm
curious to know what he would say. We knew this
bou defense was gonna be elite. That was ever our
question about this team.
Speaker 2: It was gonna be.
Speaker 5: How much is the defense going to have to carry
because what the offense may or may not produce.
Speaker 2: And that hasn't been an issue either.
Speaker 5: Obviously we all would have taken seven to zero. We
didn't know that we were going to beat Utah. I
think that was probably the one that at this point
in the season we had the biggest questions about, even
though Arizona and Colorado were better teams when BYU played
them than we thought they were going to be when
this season first started, and both those teams are trending
upward right now, which is why BYU has such a
good strength of record in college football? Was it five
last time I checked? So yeah, I'm with you, J Hill.
If you would have told me seven to oh at
the beginning of the season. I would have taken it too.
I'm taken it.
Speaker 2: Jay.
Speaker 1: Where has this team improved from last year?
Speaker 6: Well, I think we're better in the scheme right now,
and when we have all of our veteran dudes in there,
I think we're really really good. We're more stout inside
than we were a year ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think there's just an overall better understanding of just
what we're trying to get accomplished.
Speaker 1: So scheme familiarity, a little bit more stout in the
interior run defense. But the improvement where they've made the
most progress is just familiarity of executing his scheme, right?
Is that what he kind of said there? Yeah, And
we've heard that from him.
Speaker 5: I think every week when you ask about an individual player,
he's like, oh, yeah, Well, part of the reason that
they look so much better this year is because they
have more time in the scheme and learning the scheme
and the scheme and the scheme.
Speaker 2: And we've heard that from people.
Speaker 5: Who analyze the BYU football is like, this is a
tough scheme from j Hill, and when you learn it,
you can be elite. But that is the learning curve
is truly understanding in this situation where am I supposed
to be. I mean, look at Fallasausatwala, like we we
knew he had the potential and he was good last year,
but now that he has this thing on lock, just
as one example, he's been great this year and he's
not the only one. Jay Hill's going to talk about
this exact same thing and a couple questions from here.
Speaker 2: But yeah, when you learn this Jay Hill scheme, then
is when you become truly dangerous.
Speaker 1: More youth players, more young bucks are getting pt in
Jay Hill's scheme, which is a bit of an anomaly
due to the fact that it has its complexities.
Speaker 2: What has number five.
Speaker 1: New c talmoy Beeu's showing you to get an increase
in playing time.
Speaker 6: Oh well, he's going to be a phenomenal player in
right now. He just keeps getting better and better. He's
got great athleticism, he's got great physicality, and he's gonna
be a person that the fans love and adore for
the next.
Speaker 3: Couple of years.
Speaker 2: Nuci uh I mentioned this.
Speaker 1: I wrote an all article about news in the preseason
when he had committed to BYU and he had, you know,
kind of opened up his talents after decommitting to Stanford,
Noos has got the juice man. Noos is a is
a combo of like a Shoni Taki Takei and Kyle
van uy type of player. Now is he is gonna
gonna be as good in pass coverage as Kyle. Maybe not,
but he's got that. He's maybe more Chioni than he
is Kyle. But you're gonna love the way he passed rushes.
So he's he's Kyle from a pass rushing standpoint.
Speaker 2: Uh. He runs around with his hair on fire. Imagine like.
Speaker 1: Polamalu, right, but bigger, roaming around backfields and eating up quarterbacks.
This guy is a pursuer of of QB flesh and
he's gonna he's gonna get his He's going to get it.
He's going to get home more off and then not.
Nusi is fantastic, So watch out for news. Also to
Celiacana Hunter Klay. These are the future pass rushers of
BYU okay, and they're gonna be fantastic for the coups.
And unfortunately we just haven't been able to have when
we have brought in some high level pass rushers either,
they haven't been able to stay healthy I look at
guys like Lorenzo Fautea, and I look at Longy Tui Fua,
and uh, you guys don't maybe know these names, but
Troy Hines. These are like modern era dns that were
four star defensive lineman, defensive ends and and and they.
Speaker 2: Just couldn't stay healthy.
Speaker 1: Or some of the guys that we've brought in that
were dogs, they got injured, right or they had honor
code issues or academic issues and they went elsewhere.
Speaker 2: They went elsewhere. And there's a number of I could
list up.
Speaker 1: Tomasilao Lele should have been at Byu throughout his career, right, Uh,
Tavita Munga should have been at Buyu throughout his career.
Moses come with Tule should have been at Uyu for
most of his career.
Speaker 2: Like, there's so many.
Speaker 1: Things right that that it even like it's I have
a list of John Raheen peoples should have been at
Buyu's entire career. Anyway, it's just I hope that these
guys are I think they will. I believe they will
because we're built different in the modern era. Now, Jay
has it just been a matter of time for him
and Tausilia Khana.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So so Nucy had some injury issues early in camp
that we've been working through and now he's back healthy.
So that was a lot of his and then, you know,
both of them, is just a matter of getting them
more familiar with the scheme and trying to get him
in positions.
Speaker 2: Where they can be successful familiarity with scheme.
Speaker 1: Obviously, News had a lower extremity injury in fall camp
that sidelined him, and so it's great to have him
back finally and he's only going to get better from
here on out.
Speaker 2: Tal Ceily had more of like I would say, a weight.
Speaker 1: Issue than anything else when he's talking about getting them
in a position to feature their abilities, etc. Like tal
Seile's not an every down defensive end, yet he's a
passing down defensive end.
Speaker 2: He's a pass rushing specialist.
Speaker 1: He showcased that inside spin move where he presses upfield,
gets the defense or exhues the offensive lineman a little
bit on their heels, lets them engage a little bit
with their hands, and then he spins inside and continues
into the pocket, destroying you know, the pass of a
first round NFL draft pick in Spencer Fono and I
understand that Spencer was a little bit under the weather
per reports. Still, it's a great great side for things
to come.
Speaker 2: Tow seilely win it at a high level.
Speaker 1: So anyway that dead thods are my thoughts on to
Cilia and Noosey, any any commentary on the back end
there Brett always bringing the hammer.
Speaker 5: I think people forget that tow Ceily was a dog
coming out of high school.
Speaker 2: This no guy who played in nine games in Texas.
Speaker 5: He was the number one recruit in the state of
Utah by two four seven ESPN rivals and everybody. The
potential in this d line room, especially the defensive end
room is just I mean, it's it's out of this world.
And Jay Hill is telling you, hey, like we see
the potential with these guys.
Speaker 2: We know they can do it once.
Speaker 5: They are fully integrated into this scheme and they have
it on lock. Watch again like we rote a follow
tel looking what Foulatow is able to do now now
that he has no questions. The second nature with this scheme,
this defensive end, this defensive line room, the potential is
there once they get the scheme on bock, their potential.
Speaker 2: Through the roof. What's up big.
Speaker 7: Can you imagine this defense when they are starting to
get consistent, uh, you know.
Speaker 2: To the quarterback.
Speaker 7: They get to the quarterback consistently right now. They have
a hard time with that. And they're still so tough
their nails, they're so good.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: The a couple of missing pieces, are you know? I mean,
I guess consistent pass rush with only four defensive linemen,
four down linemen when you know when they become one
dimensional if you're stopping them on the run the one
the other weakness is like off tackle. Utah demolished bway
in the run game. Yet we were stout up front internally.
But you probably need a little bit more. I would
say there needs to be pre snap adjustment when there's
an overlow to kind of tackle over a situation or
when you'll see it a lot where you know, if
you have your five down linemen, you have your tight
end to the field side and most of your eligibles
on the field side, and then you have a slot
receiver off the line of scrimmage on the weak side.
If you guys can envision that, whenever you see that,
that's an alert call. I've been in that situation a
lot as a defensive back where on on the weak
side you'll get a off the line of scrimmage wide
receiver and you have to recognize that in call hey
alert alert, uh, you know alert motion. You have an
alert call essentially, and as soon as that motion occurs,
you want to shift your defense or front. Everyone shifts
a gap over because you have way too many on
the weak side and you get numbers on the strong side.
And we saw that a few times with Utah doing
such and the motion man was Bray and Bray ended
up toting for big yardage. And so they need to
be better about their pre snapping e vals number one,
and then we have to be better at getting off
blocks and being a little bit more athletic to the
field when they're going off tackle. Yeah, I think if
you had one criticism of this defense from that Utah game,
and I hadn't really thought about it until you're just
now bringing it up, because again, like it was a
great Utah offensive line. But I do remember constantly in
that game being like, man, we are having a tough
time setting the edge.
Speaker 5: And again part of that is because this Utah offensive
line has elite played the tackle position. But there were
times when you knew where the football was going, and
Utah just wanted the line of scrimmage, especially on that edge,
and they forced the DBS to make tackles, which they
were not as it allowed basically you allowed the ball
carrier to get into open space and made it a
tough situation.
Speaker 2: So those those.
Speaker 7: Guys on the inside, though, didn't they do a great job. Yeah,
I mean those tackles just I couldn't believe how great
they did that. They forced Utah to run on the outside,
and like you said, you can't if you don't seal
the edge, they're gonna continue to, you know, go to
the outside.
Speaker 1: A lot of times when we're talking about sealing the
edge too, if you go back and look at it,
you're just getting out flank too soon because.
Speaker 2: Of the speed of of of pray.
Speaker 1: Specifically that's on the Jets, and it was like the
Jet Sweep Bowl, and everyone hates Jets.
Speaker 2: But when you have a guy that runs.
Speaker 1: Ten two, I mean he's getting he's out leveraging your
entire defense lickety split, just like that, And so you're
not necessarily setting an edge. So like when we're talking terminology,
you're wanting to explain in their run game, not necessarily.
All you're trying to do is just extend that jet
to the sideline rather than like, you know, containing that
because you just can't get up field quick enough to
like slow it down unless you're running a a field
side blitch. You could call some things in your run pressures, uh,
in order to to to to maybe account for that.
But I think also they were like, well, you can't
beat us just by running outside. They didn't think they
were gonna eventually have to pass it. And they had
to pass it. And that's when uh, because you know,
b Y, you kind of had controlled the game after those,
after the after the kickoff or excuse me, the punt
return muff and and so there was more tension or
more quarters on, more stretch on their offense. And and
Devin Dampier had to throw the ball when uh and
become a little bit one dimension.
Speaker 2: Well that's not what he was built for.
Speaker 1: And and furthermore, he got injured in the fourth quarter
and no longer could extend plays and run as well, right,
and so they had to kind of they had to adjust,
and they and they they ultimately failed and fell short ultimately.
But to your point, Vic has Justin Kirklan been what
you had hoped for?
Speaker 2: Jay Hill?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I think Justin and Keanu and JT and
Anisi and those guys have done a phenomenal job all
year in there. But yeah, I mean we brought Justin
in for a reason. He's doing a lot of great things.
Speaker 1: He makes sure to mention the other d tackles because
all of them, Like if I was to say, the
two biggest impact players in the interior defensive line is
Keanu and John Tom mcpeo. Now, John probably has more
statistical output thus far, but he Keanu has been equivalently.
Speaker 2: Disruptive.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't have the stats to prove it because
he is more often than not just getting mauled by
two offensive linemen.
Speaker 2: And that's just the way it is. He knows what
he signed up for.
Speaker 1: It's hard to be as penetrative as you want to
be when you're getting matched up against some really good
offensive lines and you're getting double team time and time again. Yeah,
and that is probably my biggest point of contention that
I find myself in with BYU fans is Oh well,
Keanu tonavasit.
Speaker 5: We thought he was gonna be a first run Pick.
I don't ever see him. He doesn't even do anything
on the field. They're same with Justin Kirkland, and I
hear that a lot from fans, and the pushback I
have to give is, okay, I can understand what you
feel that way. However, one of the most thankless jobs
in the entirety of the defense is into your defensive
lineman because they're not making as many tackles. A lot
of their job is eating up double teams so that
other guys can make plays. And then my other pushback is, okay,
if you feel that way about Keanu, go look at
how Arizona ran the football before Keanu left the game
and after he left the game, and that will tell
you a lot. The defensive tackle position is just designed
to be thankless. It's really setting up for lots of
other guys to make plays.
Speaker 7: And then the one for five on fourth down conversions
come on. That tells the story right there.
Speaker 2: A lot of those.
Speaker 1: Runs were right down the center of that defense.
Speaker 2: So no doubt about it.
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Speaker 6: Every team has one right, every team has a good quarterback,
every team has white house. Every team this this team
has really good tight ends. So I love Rocobec's competitive nature.
He can throw it, he can run it, he's really smart.
Rarely does he go to the wrong spot with the ball,
So I mean he looks like a guy that's played
a lot of snaps in the Big twelve and started
a lot of games.
Speaker 1: Rock Obec thus far this season has Beandal Boon for
the Iowa State Cyclones. The six foot one, two hundred
ten pound junior out of Wesley Chapel, Florida, has thrown
for one six hundred and twenty two yards on two
hundred one attempts. He's completing sixty three point two percent
of his passes, nine touchdowns, three i in t's. He
has been sacked eleven times in this in the season,
but he was not sacked once actually versus Colorado, but
he was sacked three times versus Cincinnati, two, versus Arizona
two versus Arkansas State. He's also run the ball fifty
four times ninety one yards, so he has a little
bit of boots, scoot and.
Speaker 2: Boogie to him.
Speaker 1: That's Rock O becked Guy stots commentary on Roco and
the challengers he poses to this BYU defense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Rocko just feels like he almost feels like the
Kirk Cousins of the Big Twelve, where like Kirk Cousins
in the NFL, you're never really sitting around saying, oh, yeah,
Kirk Cousins is the secondiest guy in the league, but
you know he's one of the most dependable. He's always
there when you need him, and you never feel like
he's a pushover.
Speaker 2: And that's what you feel like with Roco Becks.
Speaker 5: Anything you absolutely need, you know that Roco BECs can
keep you in position. Honestly, the offense with this Io
State team hasn't really been the problem in their last
two games. It's been a lot of the defense because
again we know that they've lost their two corners.
Speaker 2: Until the defense has kind of let the offense down.
Speaker 5: You go look at Roco Bec's game by game, I mean,
the guy's only thrown three interceptions and he's never a
game where he threw more than one, so he's not
turning the football over at a high rate, and he's
constantly passing for good yardage and one of the other
things he does really well is he's the red zone weapon,
so a lot of their rushing touchdowns because they get
into these massive, heavy sets with like three running backs
in the backfield. That's where he does a lot of
his damage. Against Arizona he had three rushing touchdowns. Against Cincinnati,
he had two rushing touchdowns. So he does a lot
of his work in the red zone running the ball.
The other thing that I think is really interesting about
Rocos that he is so mobile. We'll have to play
this sound either today or tomorrow. But Iowa State's defensive
coordinator John Heacock was asked in his presser on Monday
about preparing for all the different types of mobile quarterbacks
in the Big Twelve, because he said they're not all
the same. Just because they can run the ball and
they're mobile, that doesn't make the preparation for them the same.
Just because Rocos mobile and Bear's mobile does not make
them the same quarterback. It was really interesting to hear
him talk about it from that standpoint. But this BYU
defense will be facing a different mobile quarterback than they
got with Kayden Salter and Ofafida than they will with Roco.
Speaker 2: Becked on Saturday, Yeah.
Speaker 7: If you're watch in the Iowa State games this year,
Roco's a gamer. When they need to play, He's the
guy that makes the play and it's just phenomenal. You
just fall in love with the kid because he'll get
rocked and he'll come back and make a play and
he's just fun to watch.
Speaker 1: So Matt Campbell knows great quarterback play. Rock Party is
an example of what a Matt Campbell ev ow scheme
and development can do for a really hard working, competent, competitive,
talented football player.
Speaker 2: Rock Party is a great example of it. Look at it.
Look at no thought that brock Party was going to
be this. Uh. People, he continues to just make doubters
into believers.
Speaker 1: So right now, Rockebeck is the second quarterback that's probably
on the same similar trajectory of making in.
Speaker 2: The NFL, but not so fast.
Speaker 1: Many people forget that there's another NFL quarterback that Matt
Campbell recruited, Hunter Deckers. He was the starting quarterback for
Iowa State before being suspended due to get this, a
gambling violation. But he's with the New Orleans Saints right now.
He got to tryout and made it. And who's the
head coach for the New Orleans Saints. Right now, Who's
who's there?
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore? Does he know quarterbacks?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is rock, Oh, he's a very
very good quarterback. Is he the best quarterback in the
Big twelve?
Speaker 2: Somewhere?
Speaker 1: Thinking it's no Fafita Utah fans will continue to say
it's Devin Dampier only when he's healthy.
Speaker 2: Though, if he's not healthy, then he can't be And
that's apparently is always you know, that's gonna choose for
a loss.
Speaker 1: And now you know that their backup quarterback should be
getting the start, and they if they win this next game,
then they're like, then they're gonna say that the BYU
game shouldn't count because they didn't have the best quarterback
on their roster playing against BYU. It's just the logic
of the utes. It is what it is. Don't hate them.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't deal in that level of intellect. You can't
get on that level. You just don't understand. It's just
you know, you gotta you gotta duck and dive and dive.
You can't do it, can't keep up anyway. Let's get
back into the J Hill commentary.
Speaker 2: And sound.
Speaker 1: Since that loss to Iowa State in twenty twenty three,
this team hasn't lost a game by more than one score.
Speaker 2: Was that a turning point for your team?
Speaker 6: Well, since that point, I think we've been very good.
I think that that was a growing up game in
the Big Twelve and try and understanding of what it's
like to play in the Big twelve week after week
after week after week, and when you get banged up
and you don't have depth and bad things happened, then
you got a chance to getting your butt kicked.
Speaker 3: And we fixed a lot.
Speaker 2: Of those issues through recruiting.
Speaker 6: And just getting more depth. We fixed a lot of
those issues through understanding of just knowing what to expect
week in and week out and the physicality the Big Twelve.
Speaker 2: Was that number nine? Oh yeah, that was a on
Cordinators quarter.
Speaker 1: You talked about Jack Kelly fighting to get back to
play against Utah.
Speaker 2: How did he look in this game?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, if you look at him on the
sack that was so critical on fourth down, he looked
like a freak and come off the edge super fast,
looked like Jack. And then there were times where it
looked like his shoulder was hurting.
Speaker 3: Him still this.
Speaker 6: Week, he looks way better than last week week before.
I don't know that anybody could have been in their.
Speaker 2: Practice and he was.
Speaker 3: He's just he's a he's.
Speaker 6: A tough dude that is already back off an injury
when most people would not be back right now.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jack Kelly doing what he does best,
fighting through injuries and still balling out. Last thing, A
couple of last things here. Your safety's played well against Utah.
They were your two leading tacklers. What did you see
from them?
Speaker 6: I think that that was the thing where they recognized
a lot of the things that were happening. They made plays.
They do a great job of film study. I think
Tanner and Fallatow have played great all year, so that
did not surprise me that those guys played really.
Speaker 3: Well in that game.
Speaker 6: And you know, Raiders been right there in the.
Speaker 3: Mix too though.
Speaker 6: That safety group has played really good this.
Speaker 1: Year, no doubt about it. Got to give some love
to Gavin Fowler once again. He's the one that is
operating that room day in and day out as Jay
attends to the defensive coordinating duties and overseeing the entire defense. Yesterday,
Jay Jay still the safety's coach, but Gavin taking on
the day to day and mentorship and coaching and also
implementation and rotations of those safeties.
Speaker 2: Will Raider be back soon, Jay soon, Yep, very soon,
he'll be back. I'll be back, says Raider. What are
your thoughts on the corners as well this season?
Speaker 6: Jay, Well, Coach Gilford does a great job with those guys,
and we got three or four guys that we really
feel we can win with. Getting Kabeya back and moving
more in that direction solidifies that group. Tavion has done
a lot of great things for us, So that group
just continues to get deeper and deeper with the reps
that those guys.
Speaker 3: Have been getting.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jennar Guildford and that defensive back room.
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a little player profile. Gonna get to know Logan Latuwei
Byu Cougar defensive van. He's been balling Shot Collin for
the Cougars this season.
Speaker 3: He's he was a.
Speaker 1: Co captain last year named Academic Hall Big twelve First
team in twenty twenty three, and but balling out for
the Cougars was leading the team in total tackles through
pretty much midway of the season, and right now I
believe he's sitting at number three in total tackles on
the year, follow Tel Southawalas taking over the lead as
the leading tackler of forty three, Isaiah Glasker at thirty one,
Logan Latuoi at thirty one, and then Sialia Sarah at
thirty one, so he is tied for second and at
defensive end, that is pretty impressive. He's got twelve solo,
nineteen assisted, and he's got two pass breakups. He's been
balling for Brigham and he addressed the media yesterday.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Logo, Utuwei, what were your feelings and takeaways after beating Utah.
Speaker 8: I think it was a great team win. I think
it was good for us to go out and have
a statement win like that. We felt like we played
a good game, a good, clean game on all three phases.
We know that, you know, there's always been more improvement,
but overall, we feel good.
Speaker 3: We're in a good position moving forward.
Speaker 2: Looking good, feeling good.
Speaker 1: Logan, what confidence does it give this group to get
three sacks against Utah's offensive line?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think it just shows up who
we are. I think up to that point, we've been
getting close to sacks h never really been able to finish,
so it was good to actually have it all come together.
And even in that game, we left them out on
the field too, so it just shows us of where
we could be.
Speaker 3: So we're so moving forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, moving forward.
Speaker 1: Those three sacks tallied by that defensive line unit that
hasn't really been overly productive in sacks this season, and
we're not shack getters at Brigham. We put pressure on
our quarterbacks, on the opposing quarterbacks, we get some QB hits,
we get them off their point a bit, but we
haven't been overly aggressive.
Speaker 2: What changed in this game? Why so many sacks versus Utah?
Do you think, guys?
Speaker 5: That is a good question, And honestly, I think part
of it is just maybe the anger, the hate, and
the passion for playing Utah and whatever mental blocks had
them before they said no more, because as we heard
all week, Utah is one of the best offensive lines
in the country. I think my favorite quote from media
availability last week was Jay Hill saying they're one of
the best offensive lines in the country.
Speaker 2: At least that's what they tell me. Almost is like
a little bit of a job to say, you.
Speaker 5: Know what, we don't care that everyone says that we're
gonna get sacks on them anyway. And I think if
you would have said, hey, your uptick in sacks is
actually gonna come when you play the University of Utah,
you would have said, yeah, I don't think so. Of
any offensive line that's gonna be the toughest. And quite frankly,
they've been turning quarterbacks over. So say what you will
about the sack number, but has there been any quarterback
this year that you truly felt b why you just
could not stop. I don't think so. There's been quarterbacks
who had good performances. I think Fafita played well. I
think Kidds Salter played well, But I don't think that
they ever got to a point where b why you
couldn't stop them and they got to do whatever they wanted.
And in the words of k Pop, sacks are overrated.
They're they're more interested in havoc creating plays, which I
think they're doing. They're moving the pocket, they're making guys uncomfortable.
So while the sacks have just recently shown up because
of the Utah game, I don't know that it's the
end of the world, because they really are doing a
good job of keeping quarterbacks in their place.
Speaker 1: Jack Kelly got one. I think Hunter Clay got one
as well as Max Alfred. Those are the three sacks,
and they all came in different situations obviously, but these
were obvious passing.
Speaker 2: Situations more often than not.
Speaker 1: And uh, there was a miss block on one occasion,
which I think Hunter Claig took advantage of, and then uh,
Max Alfred came on a nice little, nice little inside pressure,
did a nice job of dipping under a block and
was able to finish the UH. The play after dipping
dam pier It ultimately evaded him initially and then tried
to continue to extend the play and Max Alfred was
able to track him down from behind it. Jack Kelly
kind of shield the deal late. It was an obvious
passing situation. That's what you want. You need, TOMENSI one
dimensional offenses, UH, and you have to set the You
have quarterbacks that have to take deep drops and try
to go through a progression and make a play in
order to win a game or to order to pick
up first down. That allows your playmakers to pin their
ors back and get after it off the line of
scrimmage and utilize their talented abilities to the to.
Speaker 2: The fullest extent.
Speaker 1: Now, how are you preparing Logan Latui for Roco Becked
for us?
Speaker 8: We take it the same way we take preparation in
the same way. But yeah, Roco is a really great
quarterback from what we watched in film, He's able to
really coordinate his offense. Well, I think if we get
to what we're supposed to be with our game plan,
we have a really good game plan. So being able
to all the details this last couple of practices, I
think we'll be in a really good position.
Speaker 1: Rocco is yet another quarterback that provides a challenge for
BYU's defense. But I don't think it's a challenge that
that b YU hasn't faced thus far this season. It's
Roco better than Noah's. Roco better than Cayden. Is Roco
better than Devin dam Pier. Some people may say, yes,
I think it's up in the air. I think they're
all pretty close, and in talent and ability. Roco's a
little bit bigger, maybe a better arm, maybe a better
passer than some of these guys in a traditional sense.
Speaker 2: But that's what I would say. He's a better thrower,
and maybe.
Speaker 1: You know, he's more a kin to maybe a Noah Fafida,
but also Noah, he'sn't always an on time thrower. Noah's
an extended of plays, keeping eyes down, feeling and getting
into a scrambled drill.
Speaker 2: Whereas Rockco, I feel like, is more of.
Speaker 1: A timely thrower. So this is a new challenge for
the defense. He's gonna get the ball up maybe a
little bit quicker. He's going to be more of an
anticipatory thrower. As you mentioned, Hammertime show the offense hasn't
been the one that's been flailing and failing. It's been
more so the Iowa State defense and maybe even the
special teams unit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the take.
Speaker 5: That I want to know from you is how do
you feel like this BYU defense handles some of those
heavy red zone sets that Iowa State gets into, because seriously,
they'll get into a set where they have the quarterback
pistol and then they'll have three backs and sometimes they'll
sub in a tight end or an offensive lineman and
they just get these really dangerous sets in the red zone.
To me, that's what I want to know, and what
I want to see is how is bou gonna handle that?
Because look, I think by you can hang with their receivers.
That Soo kid they have is pretty good. And then
I'm spacing on their running backs name, but that kid
is a bruiser.
Speaker 2: He can run through you. But to me, the biggest concern.
Speaker 5: I have about this this bo defense is how are
they going to handle those heavy, heavy sets that Iowa
State gets into when they're in the red zone And
then we know that they've been they've kind of struggled
in the red zone.
Speaker 2: You gave up those stats earlier.
Speaker 5: I think if you can keep Io stay out of
the red zone, I think you can win this football game.
Speaker 2: But because I don't think they're gonna.
Speaker 5: Get massive, explosive like forty yard bomb passes on you.
Speaker 2: That's just not the way Jay Hills defense is built.
Speaker 5: But I am curious to see how BYU can handle
those heavy red zone sets.
Speaker 1: We'll see how it plays out, no doubt about it.
Let's move on. How would you assess this defense right now?
And how it compares to last year?
Speaker 8: You know, last year we went nine to oh, so
I think we're on that same path. I think for us,
the biggest thing with our defense is execution. We have
the pieces to be a really great defense, but all
comes down to everybody doing their part, making the plays
when the play comes to you, executing the assignment that
you have. And I think everybody's taking that pretty well.
So I'm really impressed by our defense so far.
Speaker 2: Nine and oh last year seven and oh this year
will they get to nine? And oh?
Speaker 1: How we feeling right now? How confident are we? It's
a bit of a coin toss right now. It's a
fifty to fifty ord deal whether or not you're going
to get to nine and oh, you can get a
win versus Iowa State, But Texas techniques to be even
tougher than Iowa State. Right now, Iowa State's defense, he's
a bit porous, has some issues. It could be a
little bit of a shootout with Bear Blockmeyer and Rock
go back in this game. But hopefully BYU's defense is
up to the task to slow down Iowas State.
Speaker 2: But right now ESPN.
Speaker 1: Analytics is prognosticating that BYU through the regular season will
be a ten to two team with two losses. Here
on the back end, where will they come if they
do come? What have you seen from Iowa State's offense
thus far this season?
Speaker 2: Logan Latoui.
Speaker 8: They're they're fast, physical. I think that's something that we
are so like to play. That's a way that we
like to play as well. So we're we pride ourselves
in being physical, and we see that in their offense and.
Speaker 3: How they play.
Speaker 8: They like to play fast, and so it's gonna be
a good chance for us to show what we got
and to continue making these statement games against really great
opponent opponents.
Speaker 1: A couple last things here from Logan Latoui, that's a
good offense that b what's gonna be facing obviously, What
is it like though, playing alongside a guy like Bear
Bachmeier every day?
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's he's been a great quarterback. I don't I
don't think I've ever seen a freshman quarterback do what
he's been doing, coming in like basically two weeks before
Falcam taking control of that offense and just week by
week progressing the way he has been. And I think
it's really comes down to the way he prepares. And
that's something I really respect about Bear is that it's
not just a fluke.
Speaker 3: It's something that he's been training for.
Speaker 8: For a long time, and I'm just glad that he's
able to perform and show everybody what he's been on
training so hard to be.
Speaker 1: The Bear Tar, the Centaur, the right handed Tim Tebow
better throwing Tim Tebow at that with how accurate he's
been in a shorter release and a double jointed thumb.
Does it freaking out seeing the double journey thumb with
Bear Bachmeyer as he just like rips and rips without
even putting his fingers on the laces. He envelops it
with his with his with his dislocated dumb and just
rips it from the nozzle.
Speaker 5: I didn't even know what you were talking about, really
until I saw that video that you posted that you
reposted today.
Speaker 2: And look, I'm I'm double jointed. I'm right there with Bere.
I still don't understand.
Speaker 1: Grab that football he does that? Hit the football in
your hand, right vic, Grab that football behind you? Okay,
we got a football in here, all right, and now
so like no laces I need you to do. I
need you to dislocate your thumb and wrap it around
that that that that cone of the football, that a
bloc shaped pigskin.
Speaker 5: I just don't know how this is like effective because
I can do it, but it doesn't.
Speaker 2: That's how he throws it right there, That's how he
throws it. I don't understand how that is.
Speaker 1: He's dislocating his thumb and just kind of rapping his
fingers around that nozzle of the football.
Speaker 5: And maybe it's so that he can get more contact
with the football because you hold it.
Speaker 1: Right here, you lose it and he kind of folds
it like the inside of the thumb. So like when
he's doing it, it's it's kind of like contorted like this,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It looks awkward. Man, it looks awkward, doesn't It's not comfortable.
I can tell you that it's a guy who's double jointed.
Speaker 5: I can only imagine that the reason he's doing this
is because it's supremely effective.
Speaker 2: Because it's not comfortable and it doesn't feel like it
was all right.
Speaker 1: The couple last things here, Is there any motivation from
what Iowa State did the last time they were in Provo?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's something that we haven't forgotten about,
even us being wherever we're at right now. That's something
that we still remember pretty clearly. So we know that
they came in here and they did such a great job,
and we we didn't really answer back the way we
wanted to.
Speaker 3: So we're great. We don't get many second chances.
Speaker 8: So we're great grateful that we do, and we're gonna
make the most of it.
Speaker 3: And so that's what we prepared for anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they remember remember remember the Iowish State December. It
was cold that night too. It was it was it
was it was it November? Was it in November game?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I was in Demember.
Speaker 1: Remember the Iowa State November That one hurt, that one
shot through the hardest. Gemd likes to say that one
hurt us. Was that game a turning point for the program?
Do you think, Logan?
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8: And I think that comes back to just being a
team and playing as a team. The big name of
the game on that game was turnover. So since then
we've been a really great team at keeping the ball
and not turning the ball over, playing physical, executing, and yeah,
we've just been able to tighten.
Speaker 2: Up since then, tighten up, Logan.
Speaker 1: You're an older guy with young talent in the defensive
end room. What is that experience like for you mentoring
these young bucks?
Speaker 3: It's been good. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Like I said, we have a really great group in
our defensive end room. We have a lot of young talent,
really talented young men, and I think that's a good
place where I can be is just to share what
I know with them and being able to just yeah,
learn from them as well.
Speaker 3: It's been a great experience.
Speaker 1: Great experience, no doubt about it. How about nuc Talmoypayo.
What has he looked like?
Speaker 2: Toy? Has he impressed you thus far this year?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: He's He's somebody that also came in, very skilled, someone
that we were. I've been impressed by by his physicality,
the way he plays the game is as a freshman
and as young players, you don't play the game as
fast as he does. And so and that's a common
theme among all of the freshmen that came into our team,
including Bear. And they just stepped to the stepped up
to the plate, played the role and when there, when
their name is called, they've been able to make the
plays that were needed.
Speaker 2: Boom Shaka Laca. That's our player profile.
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