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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host Samantha Fay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Deb Bowie, and today we've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of great stories and some really really interesting questions. Devin,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to be honest, I'm not sure I have

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<v Speaker 1>insider answers for all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we never do. But you know, over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>as we have done this Q and A so that

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<v Speaker 2>I have learned to trust what comes up as we're talking,

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<v Speaker 2>and we hope it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Helpful exactly all right, So, given that calveat do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to start us off?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to okay. Our first question says my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>episodes are when the warmth of your wisdom and connection

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<v Speaker 2>come through your off script reflections. I love to hear

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about what you're reading, what you noticed on

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<v Speaker 2>your walks, what cards came up for you on your

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<v Speaker 2>daily pools. It's also fun to hear how humanly psychic

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<v Speaker 2>you are in such experiences as being startled by visits

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<v Speaker 2>from deceased parents. Yep, I really hope you bring more

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<v Speaker 2>of these reflective episodes back. Thank you for that. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of comments about that. I'm halfway through

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<v Speaker 2>the episode and have paused because I want to put

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<v Speaker 2>in a request for an episode based on Deb's describing

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<v Speaker 2>how she got the Five of Pentacles quite a bit

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<v Speaker 2>in her daily draw recently. I'd love an episode with

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<v Speaker 2>perspective on some of the challenging cards in the terureau,

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<v Speaker 2>the quote bummer cards, exploring the dimension and wisdom there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd also love to have more shows that were rich

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<v Speaker 2>and reflections about spiritual concepts or challenges like attachment, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a thought or on developing a quote practice. Well, okay, Samarica, look.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to share why you're gloating right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I want to share because here's the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>our year planned out for us. These are joking aside it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm grateful for these kinds of suggestions and questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're grateful because you're always pushing for more of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm always like, but we're teachers, so we need

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<v Speaker 1>to teach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know that is here.

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<v Speaker 1>You are proven correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm just saying that. You know that is a

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<v Speaker 2>running theme in my life right now. Is my collaborations

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<v Speaker 2>with you and with Zarah and with Claire, and my

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<v Speaker 2>idea of teaching is to ask questions and to provoke thought,

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<v Speaker 2>and a didactic part of answers is not so much

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<v Speaker 2>the way I do things, and I'm aware of that. Whoever,

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<v Speaker 2>given this person's questions and comments, I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>come back and talk about the notion of patterns in

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<v Speaker 2>to row pulls, for example, daily card pulls, or the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of quote boomer cards. I don't believe in that

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<v Speaker 2>concept of Boomer cards. Yes, indeed, there are certainly aspects

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<v Speaker 2>of certain keys in to row that make us think

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<v Speaker 2>and invite us to look at challenges that we may

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<v Speaker 2>be facing. I'm not implying that this is what the

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<v Speaker 2>person said, but one of the things when I teach

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<v Speaker 2>a course, invariably an intercourse particularly, somebody will say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really scared of the devil card, for example, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think the devil's evil. Okay, let's talk about that,

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<v Speaker 2>because there really aren't any evil keys in the deck.

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<v Speaker 2>The five of pentacles that this person is referring to

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<v Speaker 2>is indeed for the I don't know, maybe six weeks

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<v Speaker 2>where I was doing doing this almost daily. I missed

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<v Speaker 2>a few days along the way, but for a while

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<v Speaker 2>there then I did an assessment of what I had

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<v Speaker 2>come up every day. Yes, there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>five of pentacles, a lot of fives of wands too, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>so I knew that I was in a period of

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<v Speaker 2>challenges of unsettled decision making that needed to be going

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<v Speaker 2>on during that period. So I took that information of

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<v Speaker 2>the repetitiveness of the fives as a suggestion to me

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<v Speaker 2>to pay attention to come up with some answers or

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<v Speaker 2>solutions for me that would work for how I might

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<v Speaker 2>deal with it is seemingly chaotic or unclear, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it was a gift. I saw those as a gift,

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<v Speaker 2>not as a bummer or a bad challenge in any way.

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<v Speaker 2>And also when we talk about dimensions and wisdom and

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<v Speaker 2>reflections on spiritual concepts and challenges, I love that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of conversation. And what does it mean to develop a practice?

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<v Speaker 2>You and I both have a practice? Could we articulate

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<v Speaker 2>it clearly to someone else? I don't know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think that would be an interesting thing to attempt to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm really grieful anse suggestions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these are great suggestions. We'll definitely make a note.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, Okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Y Our Nextwood says, I would love your insights into

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<v Speaker 1>some experiences I had the first experience happened when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in my early twenties. It was a cold, frosty

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<v Speaker 1>night and I was letting my dog outside at my

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<v Speaker 1>parents' house. I suddenly began seeing these colorful, almost twinkly

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<v Speaker 1>lights all around me. My dog, who was older and

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<v Speaker 1>had a bad hip, got very excited, wagging his tail

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to jump up on his hind legs. I

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<v Speaker 1>was so disoriented trying to figure out what I was seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was spitting all around as my dog was hopping

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<v Speaker 1>in every direction, wrapping my legs up in his leash.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe frosty tree branches were catching the light

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<v Speaker 1>from Christmas decorations nearby, but there wasn't anything close enough

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<v Speaker 1>to have that effect. I was overcome with this peaceful,

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<v Speaker 1>comforting feeling, almost like I was being sedated. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>best way I can describe it. These lights were accompanied

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<v Speaker 1>by a sort of sound I had never heard before,

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<v Speaker 1>and genuinely, I'm not sure how to explain it. The

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<v Speaker 1>closest sounds to compare it to would be bells or

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<v Speaker 1>chimes with frequencies or tones I was not familiar with.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like these lights had a conscious awareness, like

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<v Speaker 1>they were almost dancing and interacting playfully with me, like

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<v Speaker 1>they really wanted to make their presence known. I went

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<v Speaker 1>inside and immediately told my mom, who knows I'm prone

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<v Speaker 1>to quote interesting experiences, and her first response was jokingly

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<v Speaker 1>asking if I was under the influence of anything. For

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<v Speaker 1>the record, I was completely sober. A couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>passed before I heard these tones and frequencies again. I

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<v Speaker 1>was now married and living in a different state with

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<v Speaker 1>my husband. He's in the military, and at the time

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<v Speaker 1>we were living on base. I woke up one night

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<v Speaker 1>feeling a presence in our room with these sounds playing

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<v Speaker 1>directly into my ear. There were no lights accompanying the

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<v Speaker 1>sound this time. Although the sound was unmistakable, this time,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded more electronic, something like a synthesizer. I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to rationalize it, thinking it surely must be some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of test on the loud speakers throughout the base.

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<v Speaker 1>I got out of bed, opened the window, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was no sound outside. I was once again overcome with

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<v Speaker 1>the same calm, peaceful feeling. We only lived in that

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<v Speaker 1>house for a year, and I had this experience on

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<v Speaker 1>two separate occasions while living there. The fourth time it

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<v Speaker 1>happened we were stationed overseas in England and my husband

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<v Speaker 1>was deployed in the Middle East. It was the lonely

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<v Speaker 1>and stressful time in both of our lives. I had

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<v Speaker 1>very minimal contact with him and was isolated from all

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<v Speaker 1>our friends and family back home. I would let my

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<v Speaker 1>dogs sleep in bed with me most nights. This was

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<v Speaker 1>a different dog than the one with me during my

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<v Speaker 1>first encounter. One night, I woke up in my nearly

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<v Speaker 1>pitch black bedroom, and when I opened my eyes, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw bright, colorful orbs in the upper left hand corner

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<v Speaker 1>of my bedroom, toward the foot of my bed. They

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<v Speaker 1>were mesmerizing, and I could see them clear as day.

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<v Speaker 1>At this time, my dog noticed them as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting at attention, slightly growling and whining, unsure what

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<v Speaker 1>to do, almost as if to say, what are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get too close to my girl. I was overcome

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<v Speaker 1>again with that same calm feeling, and I told him

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<v Speaker 1>it was okay. As I pat him, neither one of

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<v Speaker 1>us could look away. Soon my room returned to darkness,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was no longer afraid as I had been

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<v Speaker 1>the previous nights. Whoever or whatever visited my room that

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<v Speaker 1>night reassured me that I wasn't alone and I was

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<v Speaker 1>protected in some way. About a year ago, I stumbled

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<v Speaker 1>across a video online about different angel visitations, and one

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<v Speaker 1>example described my experiences perfectly. I previously mentioned these experiences

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<v Speaker 1>to a medium. I was told it was a deceased

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<v Speaker 1>relative visiting me. I have had very distinct visitation dreams before,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as clear signs in my waking life from

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<v Speaker 1>loved ones who have crossed over, and these experiences felt

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<v Speaker 1>much different. Although I won't dismiss the option that these

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<v Speaker 1>lights and sounds were a loved one, these experiences just

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<v Speaker 1>don't really feel human in that way, so I'm not certain.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear your thoughts. Does that sound

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<v Speaker 1>angelic to you or something else entirely well? To me,

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<v Speaker 1>this definitely sounds angelic, and I do not mean to

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with the medium you spoke to, But in my experience,

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<v Speaker 1>when our loved ones pop in like that, it's usually

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<v Speaker 1>a bright light, almost like a camera flash, whereas when

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<v Speaker 1>our angels visit the orb the flash of color. The

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<v Speaker 1>orbs of color do tend to be either golden or pink,

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<v Speaker 1>or blues or purples. And then the fact that it's

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<v Speaker 1>accompanied by what to me sounds like heavenly music. Is

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<v Speaker 1>another tell that it's very angelic, and I would love

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<v Speaker 1>for you to reflect on what was going on in

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<v Speaker 1>your life when these experiences happened. I mean, obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>one in England happened to help you remember and realize

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<v Speaker 1>you're not alone, you're protected, you're safe, you are loved.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wonder if you thought about things going on

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<v Speaker 1>in your life right before, during, or after you had

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<v Speaker 1>those experiences, was it also a message of you're not

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<v Speaker 1>alone or we're with you. Sometimes I'll get something similar

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<v Speaker 1>like that when I'm either going through a difficult time

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<v Speaker 1>or even better, when something really good is around the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like the angels get excited and they're like

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<v Speaker 1>heads up, something good's coming. So I just think it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting for you to reflect on that. But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>this definitely sounds angelic.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you agree? I'm no angel expert, but I will

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<v Speaker 2>certainly trust your stakes here, so yes, I would say so.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just know I've had experiences like this. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had the music accompanied by the flashing orbs of colors,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have seen the different colored lights and when

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<v Speaker 1>I will do mediumship readings, especially so like if a

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<v Speaker 1>loved one spent a lot of time in a hospital

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end of their life, I will often ask

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<v Speaker 1>them to show me that period of time, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>when I'll get a lot of good validations about who

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<v Speaker 1>was able to be there and say goodbye and that

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<v Speaker 1>type of thing. And when I'm trying to focus on that,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how many times I've seen through

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<v Speaker 1>that deceased loved one's memories those colored orbs in a

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<v Speaker 1>corner of the hospital room. And so I'll test that

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll say to the client, oh, gosh, when your

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<v Speaker 1>mom was in the hospital towards the end, and she

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<v Speaker 1>always look up to the top right or was she

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<v Speaker 1>always looking in the corner over here? And so I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just another validation that our angels are with

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<v Speaker 1>us and in that liminal time, either when we're in

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<v Speaker 1>bed or when we're in the actual liminal space between

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<v Speaker 1>living and crossing over, it's very easy for our angels

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<v Speaker 1>to reach out to us.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that makes sense to me. Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for sharing those experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, the next one says, I have a question for

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<v Speaker 2>you about reading to row at an event or festival.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're doing multiple readings in a row for different people,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you do to cleanse your deck and keep

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<v Speaker 2>the energy fresh from reading to reading? Also, do you

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<v Speaker 2>have a specific deck that you use for those situations

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<v Speaker 2>and do you find you need to really cleanse your

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<v Speaker 2>energy after the event is over? Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me explain. When you're doing back to back readings

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<v Speaker 2>in a situation like that, the easiest way to shift

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<v Speaker 2>the energy from one reading to another for your deck

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<v Speaker 2>itself is to hold it in one hand and with

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<v Speaker 2>your fingers of the other hand, tap the deck three times.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing that for years. It seems to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Why three times, I don't know. It just seems like

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<v Speaker 2>the right number to me. But basically, what I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 2>the physical act of tapping the deck that way is

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<v Speaker 2>a symbol of how I am metaphorically, well, actually it's

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<v Speaker 2>not metaphorically, shooting the energy from the previous reading out

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<v Speaker 2>of the deck and to be taken up into the atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing I always do is shuffle three times

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<v Speaker 2>between each reading, so the cards get shuffled, the deck

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<v Speaker 2>gets shuffled, and the tapping happens between readings like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I also take a deep breath and just hold the

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<v Speaker 2>that I also be cleared so that I am ready

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<v Speaker 2>and receptive for the next person and the work that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do with them. So it's about both

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<v Speaker 2>the cards and me and whatever I have on my table.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is entirely up to you. But for years

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<v Speaker 2>when I would do festival kind of readings, I always

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<v Speaker 2>have representative items on the table of the four directions

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<v Speaker 2>and spirit, so I would often have a candle, a feather,

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<v Speaker 2>a seashell, and I've always done this a piece of

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<v Speaker 2>termalated quartz because the clear courts helps with receptivity, and

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<v Speaker 2>the termaline access a barrier and a protection and a shield.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just my choice. There's no right or wrong

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<v Speaker 2>to that anyway, but that's just what has always worked

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<v Speaker 2>for me. The other thing you can do is ring

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<v Speaker 2>a bell. You can change the vibration in the space

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<v Speaker 2>physical space around you. Just ring a bell one time

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<v Speaker 2>or clap your hands. Anything that shifts energy will clear

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<v Speaker 2>the way for the next reading. So you can try

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<v Speaker 2>any of those if you'd like. Yes, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>that I read from for other people and work from

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<v Speaker 2>actually for myself as well, And it is my very old,

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<v Speaker 2>very battered, very worn Waite Smith deck. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of other decks. I use them for other things,

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<v Speaker 2>but that is the deck that I read for other

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<v Speaker 2>people with. And absolutely, you walk in the house and

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<v Speaker 2>you put those clothes that you've had on in the

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<v Speaker 2>laundry room, and you take a shower, and when you

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<v Speaker 2>do that, I do a chakra balancing exercise in the shower.

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<v Speaker 2>I do that actually every morning. But particularly if you've

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<v Speaker 2>been in a place where you've been absorbing a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people's energy, and not about negative energy necessarily, just

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<v Speaker 2>about absorbing the energy and the connection that it takes

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<v Speaker 2>to do this kind of work. Clear that away. You

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<v Speaker 2>might want to smug yourself as well with whatever kind

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<v Speaker 2>of local herb you work with, so you might want

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. Incense works as well, so whatever. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>set those delineations between readings, and to take care of

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<v Speaker 2>yourself when it's all over as well, and your deck.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd certainly put that deck out in maybe in a

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<v Speaker 2>bowl of rice for example, or out in the moonlight

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<v Speaker 2>or something, or the sunlight if it's not direct sunlight,

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<v Speaker 2>but in some way to give the deck a break,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those are all great suggestions. I think it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, it's about intention and what you feel is

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<v Speaker 1>clearing and cleansing and resetting for you. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>I would add is, I know when I do readings,

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<v Speaker 1>I always need a pen and paper next to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will write the person's name down, or I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just write images or symbols that are coming to mind,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when they leave, I will rip that paper

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<v Speaker 1>up to disconnect from the energy. But again, it's just intention.

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing can be done by, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>ringing a bell, clapping your hands, or knocking. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>important to do those activities combined with the intention of clearing,

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<v Speaker 1>releasing and almost like what was that at just sketch,

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<v Speaker 1>like erasing the energy, you know, so you're a clean

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<v Speaker 1>slate for the next person to come at your table.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun at your sketch. So there's a long time to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's take our first quick break. Will be right back. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to be near long Island in July.

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<v Speaker 1>July twenty third, I'm going to be teaching my manifest

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<v Speaker 1>Miracles class. It will be a fun, interactive class will

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<v Speaker 1>you'll learn how to use crystals, penghue, and powerful thought

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<v Speaker 1>covers how to identify and clear old patterns that are

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<v Speaker 1>holding you back, the science behind manifesting, and how to

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<v Speaker 1>use imagery to train your subconscious to manifest for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in August, I'll be teaching an Intuitive Development weekend

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<v Speaker 1>hosted by the Edgar Cacar will be at the Wild

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<v Speaker 1>Acres Retreat Center in Little Switzerland, North Carolina from August

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth to the twenty third. And don't forget my Labradorite

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<v Speaker 1>bracelets are still on sale for the month of June.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope to see you this summer. Welcome back, okay. Our

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<v Speaker 1>next one says, I've recently had the pleasure of meeting

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<v Speaker 1>deb in her Magic of the Ordinary class and am

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<v Speaker 1>delighted to connect with Samantha via email. Samantha, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>listening to your wonderful book heavenly alliance. I'm glad they

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<v Speaker 1>let you read this one yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>In the chapter where you discuss the ways in which

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<v Speaker 1>our guides and angels make themselves known to us, you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned a tingling or pressure in the shoulder as one

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<v Speaker 1>of the signs. I've been getting this exact sensation multiple

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<v Speaker 1>times a day for about a year now. As I've

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<v Speaker 1>become more conscious of spirit and my connection to my guides.

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<v Speaker 1>I've come to associate this with my guide or angel

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<v Speaker 1>as a sense of well being always washes over me

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<v Speaker 1>when I get it. But it was amazing and so

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<v Speaker 1>validating to hear you mention this in your book. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything you recommend I do when I experience this sensation?

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<v Speaker 1>I always smile and say thank you, but perhaps there's

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<v Speaker 1>something more. Well, that's a great question. It's often called

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<v Speaker 1>your spirit guides hello, or their tell or their signal

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<v Speaker 1>to you that they are around you, And it is

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<v Speaker 1>so exciting when you feel that and you make that connection,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a wonderful thing. And if any of

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<v Speaker 1>you are listening, going well. I've never felt that you

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<v Speaker 1>can start to practice a type of meditation called sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the power and there's a lot of great examples.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go on YouTube and search that up. There's

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<v Speaker 1>the Power of meditations, but it's really pretty simple. You

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<v Speaker 1>do your best to clear your mind. And you're not

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<v Speaker 1>meditating and is sitting in the power meditation for any

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<v Speaker 1>purpose other than to connect with your own body, your

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<v Speaker 1>own energy, and your own sensations so that you start

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<v Speaker 1>to learn what it feels like to be fully present

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<v Speaker 1>in your own energy field. Once you're able to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>then you want to visualize expanding your energy field, pushing

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<v Speaker 1>your aura out even further and ask your spirit guides

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<v Speaker 1>to step closer and tell you what their calling card is.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for some people, like this lovely listener, it

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<v Speaker 1>could be that pressure, that feeling, that tingling on your shoulder,

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<v Speaker 1>could be your right shoulder, your left shoulder, It could

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<v Speaker 1>be at the back of your neck. I had one

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<v Speaker 1>student it was always her ankle, which I thought was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>She would feel a tingling sensation on her right ankle

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<v Speaker 1>and she knew that was her guides coming closer. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's different for everyone. Some people might feel a fluttering

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<v Speaker 1>in their stomach. But you always want to start with

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<v Speaker 1>getting very comfortable with how your own energy feels. And

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<v Speaker 1>once you're there and you're locked into your own energy field,

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<v Speaker 1>push out just with your intention of your thought and

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<v Speaker 1>ask your guides to come forward and specifically ask them

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<v Speaker 1>to show you what their unique calling card is for

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<v Speaker 1>you and when you feel it randomly, like this listener

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, what do I do? I think what she

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<v Speaker 1>or he said is absolutely perfect. Smile and say thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>But I always try to take a moment soon after

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that to just sit in my little reading

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<v Speaker 1>tune in to see if there's a message for me,

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes that'll happen and you're just busy, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to a friend or you're cooking dinner, and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>do it at that moment. And I have found I

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<v Speaker 1>know this has happened to you two deb If they

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<v Speaker 1>do that, I feel their calling card and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have time to meditate. Within the next couple of hours,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get that absence of sound in one ear and

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<v Speaker 1>So I would just recommend that you keep doing what

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<v Speaker 1>try to carve out time to meditate with the intention

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<v Speaker 1>of connecting with them for any guidance. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you might sit and meditate and be like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you popped in today and interrupted my work or my

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<v Speaker 1>conversation or whatever you're doing. Thank you, that's fantastic. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to tell me? And you get crickets nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, well, what the heck was that? It

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<v Speaker 1>could just be them popping in to be like, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, I'm checking in on you. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>that when you ask for the message, you're not picking

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<v Speaker 1>it up because maybe you're not in the right receptive mode.

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<v Speaker 1>But it will come to you. It will come to

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<v Speaker 1>you later on that week, either in a dream or

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<v Speaker 1>in an AHA moment, or when you're journaling something, or

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<v Speaker 2>Want to add two things to that, please, okay. I

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<v Speaker 2>One is to really work with your chakra system so

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<v Speaker 2>that you know which Claire is your most prevalent Claire,

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<v Speaker 2>because hoping for a visual sign isn't gonna work for

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<v Speaker 2>most folks, or let me rephrase that for those of

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<v Speaker 2>us who are auditoring, that's not going to work. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't see anything. What I have to do is to listen,

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<v Speaker 2>as you say, Samantha, for that moment of silence in

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<v Speaker 2>my left ear, and when that happens, I know, whoops,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got something to say. I need to sit down

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<v Speaker 2>and shut up and listen to this as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>I can. But that's been a long time building of

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship. Work on where your clare strength is, and

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<v Speaker 2>that will help you to come up with a better

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<v Speaker 2>communication technique with your guide. And then the other toption is,

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<v Speaker 2>and you touched on this in some way, Samantha, is

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<v Speaker 2>the idea that there is likely to be some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of symbol or sign coming along that is unusual. That

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<v Speaker 2>hello there, this is different because you know, usually we

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<v Speaker 2>see him flying or soaring around, So here is this

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<v Speaker 2>hawk standing on the ground. And I didn't see any

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<v Speaker 2>prey or any reason that this hawk was standing on

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<v Speaker 2>the side of the road in the grass. But there

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<v Speaker 2>she was, and I just know that at some point

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have a conversation with my guide and

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<v Speaker 2>the realization of whether or not that was a sign

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<v Speaker 2>or it was just a hawk happening to be on

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<v Speaker 2>the grass, or if it was some kind of message

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<v Speaker 2>for me? What was it? And that will come when

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<v Speaker 2>I sit down and really listened for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well said, ready for the next That's what I am.

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<v Speaker 2>This person says, after listening to your most recent episode,

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<v Speaker 2>I had to write. As we know, women have been

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<v Speaker 2>systematically erased from history for centuries. So while I found

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<v Speaker 2>the episode fascinating, I can't say I was surprised. It

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<v Speaker 2>reminded me of an essay I wrote for a university

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<v Speaker 2>religion class about forty years ago on the shift from

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<v Speaker 2>matriarchal to patriarchal societies. In essence, I argued that in

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<v Speaker 2>prehistoric times, women and men were more equal. Women hunted, labored,

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<v Speaker 2>and contributed alongside men while also bearing children. But as

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<v Speaker 2>human brains evolved and babies became more dependent at birth,

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<v Speaker 2>women's roles changed. Physical adaptation and child care demands gradually

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<v Speaker 2>pushed women away from hunting, while men specialized women became

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<v Speaker 2>responsible for nearly everything else. At the same time, men

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<v Speaker 2>came to understand their role in reproduction. Women once revered

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<v Speaker 2>for the mystery of birth lost some of that sacred status,

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<v Speaker 2>and dependence on men for protection and resources helped usher

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<v Speaker 2>in the patriarchy. The great irony to me is that

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<v Speaker 2>all of this happened in the course of making us,

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<v Speaker 2>supposedly quote smarter. As I listened to the podcast, I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't help imagining generations of churchmen shaping the narrative to

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<v Speaker 2>keep women subordinate. Those old messages still echo idolized women

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<v Speaker 2>into impossibility, shame them into silence, and exclude them from power.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course that struggle is far from over. Women

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere are still fighting for equality, bodily, autonomy, and dignity.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope my daughters see more real progress in their lifetimes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I choose to believe that one day the pendulum

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<v Speaker 2>will settle closer to balance, where women and men can

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<v Speaker 2>better understand one another, honor their differences, and meet each

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<v Speaker 2>other with compassion. Thank you for such a thought provoking episode.

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<v Speaker 2>As a very lapsed Catholic, I found it especially compelling,

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<v Speaker 2>and it made me wish my mother were still here,

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<v Speaker 2>so we could have had one of our spirited debates

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Ooh, Samantha, this email took my breath away.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you, thank you for this email. And

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<v Speaker 2>I do too wish your mom could have been here

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<v Speaker 2>for a spirited debate with you about it. That would

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<v Speaker 2>not have been the conversation with my mother.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what would she have said.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, honey, my mother was a Southern lady, and there

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<v Speaker 2>were just things you didn't say and do and talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all I can tell you about me at Cakra.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love this email, and of course it spurs

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<v Speaker 2>me to make suggestions of book titles that I know

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<v Speaker 2>have made before. But I certainly recommend When God Was

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<v Speaker 2>a Woman by Merlin Stone, which is a book on

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<v Speaker 2>matriarchal society's pre patriarchy, taking us back to Anana and

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<v Speaker 2>some of those gales. When the Drummers were women is

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<v Speaker 2>another great book.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I recommend one? Yeah, I've read it several times.

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<v Speaker 1>Revolution from Within by Gloria Steinem.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Gloria Steinem. Oh. I mean we can go on

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<v Speaker 2>and on about the feminist movement of literature and how

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful that was. But yes, I would love to see

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<v Speaker 2>that balance of the pendulum that this listener is talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm so honored and so appreciative that when Samantha

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<v Speaker 2>and I choose to do the research and we appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>the valid that it was important and meant something to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you so much for your comments.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really do appreciate that, and I resonate with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about my dad all the time and the

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<v Speaker 1>spirited debates we could have about all sorts of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>especially these UFO files that keep dropping.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad and I would have had a spirited debate.

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<v Speaker 2>We wouldn't have. I don't know, but by the time

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<v Speaker 2>he'd gotten really elderly, he may have agreed with me.

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<v Speaker 2>There were things that, particularly when I was a teenager,

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<v Speaker 2>that we disagreed on vehemently, and at some point he

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<v Speaker 2>came over to my side of the fence and that

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<v Speaker 2>was really wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, our next one is a little bit long, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a very quick break and we'll be right

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<v Speaker 1>back to jump into it because it's a really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>question about a dream visit.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back. Hi, everybody. I wanted to let

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<v Speaker 2>you know that I am working on some new courses

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<v Speaker 2>coming up in the near future, but in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also offering some other things that you might be

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<v Speaker 2>interested in. For example, on my website you can find

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<v Speaker 2>links to numerology reports, animal guide reports, and e booklets

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<v Speaker 2>about guarding with the Spirit of the Plant Kingdom, with

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<v Speaker 2>working with moon energy, working with the major arcana and crystals.

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<v Speaker 2>So take a look at my website Stepbowen dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>And while you're there on my website, I'd love it

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<v Speaker 2>if you subscribe to my free substack and visit. With

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<v Speaker 2>Merlin's picture on my website homepage, I think you'll like

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<v Speaker 2>looking at him. Stepbowen dot com. Thanks so much, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, welcome back. Our next one says I started listening

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<v Speaker 1>to your podcast about two years ago on Spotify one

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<v Speaker 1>day when I was searching for something on how to

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<v Speaker 1>connect deeper with my intuition. I usually look for something

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to when I drive to work and home,

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<v Speaker 1>which is about an hour each way. I learned lots

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff from your podcast. I know that I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>psychic or have any special gift, but I certainly am

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<v Speaker 1>aware that there are higher forces, angels and guides who

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<v Speaker 1>are always assisting me. Seven months ago, my husband passed

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<v Speaker 1>away very suddenly from a massive heart attack at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of sixty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten days after his passing, I had a visit from

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<v Speaker 1>him in my dream. This visit was as real as

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<v Speaker 1>any person in conversation or visit what the loved.

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<v Speaker 2>One can be.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a lot younger in my dream. We were

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<v Speaker 1>sitting and visiting in a very, very large religious gathering

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<v Speaker 1>where food was being served and everybody was laughing and

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<v Speaker 1>having fun. My husband and I are sitting and talking.

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<v Speaker 1>His sister walks by us with a stunned look on

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<v Speaker 1>her face and her jaw dropped as she saw my husband.

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<v Speaker 1>She knew he had passed on and she was stunned

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<v Speaker 1>to see him with me. As we're talking, my husband

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<v Speaker 1>looks over at his sister and he tells me it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Ignore her. We keep visiting and having our conversation, and

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<v Speaker 1>then another female walks up to my husband and says,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you here. You're not supposed to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gone. He gets very upset and tells her it's

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<v Speaker 1>not of her business and that he's here to visit

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Then he adds and I know my mom

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<v Speaker 1>is over there serving food, and she does not need

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<v Speaker 1>to know. As we are talking, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>he takes his watch off his wrist and takes my

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<v Speaker 1>watch off my wrist and switches them. Then he looks

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<v Speaker 1>at me and says, I know it's a little tight,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's okay. All of a sudden, I woke up

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<v Speaker 1>and my dream was over. The Next morning, I shared

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<v Speaker 1>that dream with my youngest son, who was also very

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<v Speaker 1>upset about his dad being gone so early, and I

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<v Speaker 1>tell him about his dad exchanging the watch. I asked him,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think that means? My son says, Mom,

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<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me? Dad actually gave you his watch,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said yeah. Then he goes on to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me that at the time of the service, just before

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<v Speaker 1>the cremation, my oldest son took one of his expensive

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<v Speaker 1>watches and put it in his soup pocket just before

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<v Speaker 1>the cremation. To this day, I'm trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what it all means when my husband gave me his

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<v Speaker 1>watch and he took mine. I do get beautiful messages

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<v Speaker 1>and playfulness and adventures, almost as if I totally live

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<v Speaker 1>another life when I'm asleep, But I would really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your help in bringing some closure or answers to this dream.

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<v Speaker 1>Since then, he has visited two or three other times,

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<v Speaker 1>but none of them as clear as this watch dream.

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<v Speaker 1>I love listening to you both. Oh well, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, and again, so so sorry for your loss.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are some things I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>highlight before we get to the watch that are significant.

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<v Speaker 1>And so many of the dream visitation stories I've gathered,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so very often that there is this very very

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<v Speaker 1>large hall, and the way she says at a religious

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<v Speaker 1>gathering spot, a lot of people will describe it as

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<v Speaker 1>a cathedral, some describe it as a huge, great hall,

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<v Speaker 1>But it does seem to be like there's this meeting

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<v Speaker 1>place between our world and their world, and the sister

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<v Speaker 1>coming up and the other friend coming up, and the

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<v Speaker 1>mom over there. It seems as though it had only

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<v Speaker 1>been ten days since he crossed over. So first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>what a test to the immense amount of love he

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<v Speaker 1>had for you and his family, because that takes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of energy to get through in a dream that quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>And it also seems as though he wasn't given permission

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, you know, because that's something I've been

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<v Speaker 1>shown time and time again. We need to get permission

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<v Speaker 1>to visit our loved one in a dream state, because

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<v Speaker 1>we have to make sure they're ready to receive it,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not in too much grief. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>learn how to work with our energy to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it almost seems like your husband did not wait

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<v Speaker 1>for any of that permission, did not follow those rules.

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<v Speaker 1>Was just like, that's my wife. I have to tell

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<v Speaker 1>her I'm okay, and I have to do the watch

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<v Speaker 1>things so my son knows I'm okay. My children know

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<v Speaker 1>I love them and that I saw the watch being

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<v Speaker 1>put into my soup. Don't you think that's what that is?

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<v Speaker 1>Deb Or do you have a different take?

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<v Speaker 2>I need clarity on something. I'm not sure I read

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<v Speaker 2>this correctly. The son took the watch off of his

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<v Speaker 2>arm and put it in his suit, into the father's pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. This is why pronouns are so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that too, like did he take off his

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<v Speaker 1>own expensive watch and put it in his dad's suit

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<v Speaker 1>so it would be cremated with his dad? Or did

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<v Speaker 1>he take his dad's watch off so it wouldn't be cremated.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm glad to know. I'm not clear on that

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<v Speaker 2>either the pronouns got lost me somewhere, but in any case,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a switch of watches or a movement of

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<v Speaker 2>watches that this man used as some kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>physical symbol to connect with his family. Whatever the answer

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<v Speaker 2>to that may be, I don't know that it much

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<v Speaker 2>matters at this point. I just have this image if

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<v Speaker 2>this fella getting over on the other side and the

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<v Speaker 2>conference table is waiting for the life review for him

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<v Speaker 2>to come and sit down and begin this process of

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<v Speaker 2>transitioning into the other plane, and he's like, Nope, not yet,

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<v Speaker 2>I got stuff to do. I got to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>life one more time. I'll be back. I can just

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<v Speaker 2>that's the image I have of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I also wonder what the watches if it

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with.

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<v Speaker 2>Timing, timing and time itself. Yeah, you and I have

630
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<v Speaker 2>talked so many times, and all of the work that

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<v Speaker 2>we have done talks about how different time is on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side. So maybe he'd been over there for

633
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<v Speaker 2>a long time in his quote time.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean the timing of his passing. I have

635
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of clients who have lost their significant other

636
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<v Speaker 1>in their sixties and it creates a lot of excess

637
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<v Speaker 1>pain because that's the time when you're usually typically pretty

638
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 1>much done raising your kids, you're heading into retirement, and

639
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<v Speaker 1>it's this time you've worked your whole life for to

640
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<v Speaker 1>just enjoy each other, and then one of you was gone.

641
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<v Speaker 1>So in addition to the immense amount of grief, there's

642
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:51.239
<v Speaker 1>anger and what the hell, Like, what happened? This is wrong?

643
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<v Speaker 1>And the timing is off. And so I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to say, like, yeah, the timing is off,

645
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<v Speaker 1>but I'm still here and you know, and that's why

646
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<v Speaker 1>he's keeping her watch with him, like I'm going to

647
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<v Speaker 1>be with you until it's your time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't doubt that a bet. I think there are

649
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<v Speaker 2>lots of messages and lots of symbols have help its

650
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<v Speaker 2>assistance to her and her children about this time of transition.

651
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<v Speaker 2>And I would just invite her to keep notes, keep records.

652
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Certainly what she's written to us would be helpful to

653
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<v Speaker 2>put in a journal and date information, because I have

654
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<v Speaker 2>a feeling that if he's been once, he'll be again.

655
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<v Speaker 2>He's been deceive her one time, he'll be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure, Well, she said he has, but just

657
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<v Speaker 1>nothing as significant as the watch symbolism.

658
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<v Speaker 2>I think he'll keep coming.

659
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<v Speaker 1>I do too, but your full gift, yeah, absolutely beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, The next one says, the Kentucky Derby

661
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<v Speaker 2>has always been a big event for my family. We

662
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<v Speaker 2>get in touch every Derby day to chat about the

663
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:59.039
<v Speaker 2>field of horses and our bets. I almost always bet

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<v Speaker 2>a small amount once. It's become a tradition for years.

665
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<v Speaker 2>The way I picked my horse was by reading the

666
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<v Speaker 2>list and getting a feeling or just liking a name.

667
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<v Speaker 2>Then in twenty twenty three, I decided to pull one

668
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<v Speaker 2>to row Key to help me decide on my bed.

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<v Speaker 2>That year, I pulled the Magician. I went on my

670
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<v Speaker 2>betting site and looked at the list of horses running

671
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:25.760
<v Speaker 2>the Derby. I do not look at the line up

672
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 2>ahead of time. The only horse I thought would work

673
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:32.639
<v Speaker 2>was Mage Match m Age, so I put my twenty

674
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<v Speaker 2>dollars down and a couple of hours later I watched

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<v Speaker 2>him win the race. For the next two years I

676
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<v Speaker 2>also picked horses who placed or showed, never the favorites,

677
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<v Speaker 2>and all based on a card pull. Last year I

678
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<v Speaker 2>missed the race, so this year, when I got a

679
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:54.039
<v Speaker 2>text from my cousins discussing who to bet on. I

680
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:57.480
<v Speaker 2>went to my deck, got clear and asked for some

681
00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:01.199
<v Speaker 2>insight on the race. I pulled the Queen of Wands,

682
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:04.960
<v Speaker 2>so I went to the list. My first pick was

683
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Albus because Albus double door wielded a wand but that

684
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.480
<v Speaker 2>felt like a stretch. I went back and stared at

685
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.039
<v Speaker 2>the cart a few more minutes, then looked at the

686
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>field again, since the Queen is all in gold in

687
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:24.400
<v Speaker 2>apparently in her deck. When I saw Golden Tempo, I

688
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 2>knew I needed to put half my bet there. Both

689
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 2>of these horses were long shots. We were having friends

690
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:34.880
<v Speaker 2>for dinner, so I got busy cleaning the house and

691
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:38.119
<v Speaker 2>totally missed the race because it only lasts like, you know,

692
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:41.480
<v Speaker 2>half a second or so. I didn't realize this until

693
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Tech started hitting my phone stating, can you believe that?

694
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:48.719
<v Speaker 2>And what a race? So I pulled up the derby

695
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:53.000
<v Speaker 2>and there it was. Golden Tempo had come from behind,

696
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.880
<v Speaker 2>all the way behind to win the race. At the

697
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<v Speaker 2>last moment. I logged onto my back sit and I

698
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<v Speaker 2>had one big I have watched the race over and over.

699
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.760
<v Speaker 2>It truly was one for the ages. Footage of the

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<v Speaker 2>first woman trainer to win the derby. Seeing her horse

701
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<v Speaker 2>come from the back of the pack to winds was

702
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:18.719
<v Speaker 2>so much fun. I have watched it over and over again.

703
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<v Speaker 2>I don't write this to say that everyone should start

704
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<v Speaker 2>using their cards for gambling. Thank you. Let me read

705
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.679
<v Speaker 2>that sentence again. I don't write this to say that

706
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:31.039
<v Speaker 2>everyone should start using their cards for gambling. I just

707
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<v Speaker 2>wanted to share a super fun story. I do pull

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<v Speaker 2>a card every day and love working with them to

709
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.840
<v Speaker 2>clear balance and center myself. Using them once a year

710
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:44.199
<v Speaker 2>in this fun way has become one of my favorite traditions.

711
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your presence once a week and all

712
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:50.599
<v Speaker 2>the light you bring into the world. Wow, here's what

713
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<v Speaker 2>I know about the Kentucky Derby. I know three things

714
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:58.360
<v Speaker 2>about the Kentucky Derby. I know about the hats, I

715
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:03.159
<v Speaker 2>know about the mint Jillis. I'm trying to get the

716
00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:07.480
<v Speaker 2>words out. And I know Dan Fogelberg's run for the Roses,

717
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:12.360
<v Speaker 2>that wonderful song. That's what I know about the Kentucky Derby.

718
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that i'd ever.

719
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<v Speaker 1>Actually tell you know that you could use your troll

720
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<v Speaker 1>cards to help you win some money next year.

721
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:23.960
<v Speaker 2>So now I know that other people can do, but that.

722
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Is such a great example of using to row and

723
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<v Speaker 1>your intuition.

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<v Speaker 2>Well idious and don't misunderstand. I'm delighted this woman won

725
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:36.639
<v Speaker 2>this money, and this is great and good for her.

726
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:41.360
<v Speaker 2>And I can't imagine trying it, but I think, who knows.

727
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:46.000
<v Speaker 2>It's an interesting process and it is exactly as you say,

728
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:49.320
<v Speaker 2>she pulls a key and then.

729
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because she first was like, oh, well, Albus Dumbledore

730
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:56.039
<v Speaker 1>has a wand and then her intuition was like, eh, something's.

731
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Off right exactly, and then she goes with this other

732
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<v Speaker 2>one and look at this.

733
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, and it was a come from behind.

734
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a sport person, but that was a very exciting.

735
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I do love the Kentucky Derby.

736
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<v Speaker 2>I catch it. I really don't know anything about it,

737
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:13.199
<v Speaker 2>but I did see on the news about the fact

738
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<v Speaker 2>that this horse was trained by a woman, which you know,

739
00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.000
<v Speaker 2>his Kentucky Derby is fraught with so much history, so

740
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:23.880
<v Speaker 2>there's all that. But in any case, this was an

741
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:28.480
<v Speaker 2>interesting use of tourou And who's to say. I hope

742
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:29.639
<v Speaker 2>she wants to get next year.

743
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<v Speaker 1>I know, Well, it's just a fun way to test

744
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:36.159
<v Speaker 1>your intuition. Take the money and the gambling out of it.

745
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:40.119
<v Speaker 1>It's just a really quick and easy and instructive way

746
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:42.280
<v Speaker 1>to work with your intuition. Like I said, I'm not

747
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:44.880
<v Speaker 1>a sports person. I don't really know anything about sports.

748
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:48.800
<v Speaker 1>But my husband watches sports all the time and I'll

749
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:51.199
<v Speaker 1>walk in and I'll go, oh, who's in the blue shirts?

750
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>They're going to win? And he's like, damn it, don't

751
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:56.119
<v Speaker 1>tell me that. But I'll look at the colors of

752
00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 1>the field and one will stand out. And then you know,

753
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>a good way to test if you're connected and tuned

754
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 1>in that week?

755
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:04.519
<v Speaker 2>What's your percentage of being right?

756
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Pretty good?

757
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Of course it is. I love it.

758
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure yours is too. You've just gotta click it

759
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:15.760
<v Speaker 1>on for a second and see if a color stands

760
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>out to you or a name.

761
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Now, it's one basketball game. In my whole life, I've

762
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:25.000
<v Speaker 2>never seen a football game. I've watched some suffing contest.

763
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's just another tool for our psychic tools that we.

764
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Could absolutely so folks use it and whatever your sport is,

765
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:36.920
<v Speaker 2>enjoy have fun with it. This was a great example.

766
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for this.

767
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.719
<v Speaker 1>It was These are all such good questions and wonderful stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. For taking time to send them in.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember you can always send us your question or story

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<v Speaker 1>Psychic Teachers at gmail dot com and we will include

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<v Speaker 1>it in an upcoming queue in a loved all of

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<v Speaker 1>these love hearing from you guys, love the reminder that

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<v Speaker 1>we're all connected in this way. We hope you have

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful week filled with your own calling cards from

775
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>your spirit guides and maybe a visit from your angel

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Remember to be the light for yourself and others.

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<v Speaker 2>Big care everyone.

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