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Speaker 1: Now here's Jacob Hester and T Bob a Bear.

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Speaker 3: Well it's not Jacob Hester or T Bob a Bear.

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Taylor Sharp sitting in the host chair, Matthew Musso on audio,

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track of today since everyone is off. I am in

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the host chair. Musso audio producing for AFR. Muso in

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the host chair, I am audio producing. So we're flip

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flopping a little bit here today, and you know we're

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both in for a long one. Cassie here as well.

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How's everybody doing this morning?

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Speaker 4: That's what I was about to say. Cassie's gonna be

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Speaker 5: Oh you're a video for al Far Oh yeah, akay,

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Well look at us, we're all we're all pulling.

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Speaker 4: We're holding down the entire station today, literally holding down

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Speaker 5: I get here this morning.

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Speaker 3: Power went out over the week in because well, power

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assuming the storm Saturday night took the power out.

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Speaker 5: Every computer had to be reset it.

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Speaker 3: Guys, we're starting to show off wonderfully, but look, we're

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going to have a good time. All of us are

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going to be running on fumes on AFR, so be

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Speaker 5: Bringing the interergy yeah, because I'm sure that.

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Speaker 3: Show is going to be way more interesting than this one.

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Want to kind of layout what we're gonna do today.

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We're obviously gonna talk Saints Raiders. Harold Perkins announced his

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decision on his future. He did that on Friday about

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right at the time AFR was about to start. I

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want to talk NFL head coaching changes, possible openings, where

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the Saints rank on that. At eight o'clock, we're gonna

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talk LSU versus Baylor. We're gonna give a final look

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at the Texas Bowl because as you know, that game

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Speaker 5: We're gonna have Zach Naggy.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna hop one talk the latest with ls Portal News,

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me and Musso. We're gonna kind of pick the College

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Football Playoff Round two games. Is our final look at

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CFP round two LSU basketball men's and women's both got

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big wins yesterday, weekend winners.

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Speaker 5: At nine am, Devin.

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Speaker 3: Snow is gonna hop on and tell us why the

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Saints and Pelicans stink so bad. Then we're gonna close

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this thing out as we do every day with ask

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the bench. As I mentioned, I do wanna, I do

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want to start here with Saints and Raiders. Uh so,

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why don't we go ahead and get this thing started.

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Speaker 1: It's time to get to work courtesy of Tiger Labor

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and Staffing where they can help take care of screening, training,

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pay roll and more. Now for starters.

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Speaker 3: All right, So Saints and Raiders played yesterday and you

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know you looked at this and well, to be quite frank,

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it was a battle of NFL bottom feeders this year.

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The Saints came into the game five and ten. The

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Raiders came into the game just three and twelve. Game

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obviously in New Orleans, and it is a game that

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everyone thought, Hey, if the Saints are going to win

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one the rest of this season, the Raiders game is

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going to be it. Because you got a Bucks team

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coming up that are playing as good as anybody in

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the NFL. If the Raiders coming in. They've went from

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Gardner Minshew to Aid and O'Connell to Desmond Redder, now

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back to Aid and O'Connell, and really, outside of brock Bowers,

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they haven't had a ton of weapons to work with

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all season. Well, your final score yesterday the Las Vegas

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Raiders twenty five the New Orleans Saints ten, which, first off,

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the Raiders have now won back to bad games. They

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really don't want that number one overall pick. The Giants

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apparently don't either. We'll get into that a little bit

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later on. But it's a game that you really thought

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the Saints had a shot at getting. But what ultimately happened, well,

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it's the same problems that have haunted this team all

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year long came back to bite you in this game.

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You couldn't stop the run. And when I mean you

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couldn't stop the run, I mean a mere Abdullah, the

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Raiders running back he played in his one hundred and

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forty first NFL game yesterday, had never had a hundred

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Speaker 5: Well, he had never played the Saints defense.

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first time in his NFL career. To show you again

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how bad that run defense was. The Raiders had not

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had a hundred yard rusher all season. Again, thanks to

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the Saints, they accomplished that feet as well.

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Speaker 5: It really wasn't Brock Bowers.

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he's too good of an athlete to completely shut down.

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about as good as you could on Brock Powers, you

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just couldn't stop the run. To show you just how

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bad it was, the Raiders ran for one hundred and

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fifty six yards. The Saints ran for eighty one, and

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the Saints are the ones that got out to the

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early lead. You saw the trick play. It was the

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pitch to Kendre, the pass back to Spencer Rattler. He

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throws it all the way down the field to Foster Moro,

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which if there's a bright spot in this game, it

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probably is Foster Moro. He had a heck of a game.

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you know the Raiders were ten of eighteen on third down,

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a little over fifty percent. They're one of the worst

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teams in the league coming into this game on third

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down efficiency, and it was third and eight, third and nine,

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third and twelves and you could not get off the field.

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ten on third down conversions, So you couldn't run the ball,

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you couldn't stop the run. You were awful on third down,

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and you could not convert on third down. That is

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a recipe for disaster. And when you watch the game,

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you could just feel it. There was no jews in

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this team. I mentioned they got out to the seven

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to nothing lead, but what ultimately happened. The Raiders are

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going a little bit of a run. They make it

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thirteen sep I know that if you were sitting at

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home like me, you saw thirteen to seven and you said, well,

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that's the ball game. The Saints have no shot at

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coming back in this game. And that's ultimately what happened. Now,

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the Saints left a lot out there. They had some

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drop passes, they had a lot of penalties, but blocking

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remains a huge issue for you. Spencer Ratler was under

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duress all day long, and we'll get to him just

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a second and It wasn't just your pass blocket. You

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couldn't run block, you couldn't pass block. And this is

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against a raiders of defense that I mean is kind

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of middle of the road. They're kind of a pedestrian defense.

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udo in there for Lucas Patrick, But does Lucas Patrick,

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of all people, make a huge difference in this game.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he does. Then we get to the

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drop passes.

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Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler honestly played about as well as he could

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have under these circumstances, even when he did get out

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of the pocket, even when he escaped pressure. You got

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to do a better job of catching the ball. Now

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you have no names out there receiver. I mean me

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and Musso were basically the fourth receivers for this team.

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No Chris Olave, no Rashi Chiheed.

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Speaker 5: We know all that.

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Speaker 3: Cedric Wilson's been a huge disappointment this year. You don't

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have anybody to throw the ball to. And that's why

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I think Spencer Ratler was probably as good as he

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could have been under these circumstances. I looked at his

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stats in the first half and I was a little

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bit blown away. He went ten of twelve for one

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hundred and forty six yards a touchdown, no turnovers. Now,

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that last pass of the first half was an intentional throwaway.

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He was rolling out trying to find something and threw

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it out of the back of the end zone to

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give GROUPY a chance to come in there and kick

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the field goal to make it thirteen ten at halftime,

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which he ultimately did. So you have one incompletion, one throwaway,

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you're ten of twelve fo one hundred and forty six

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yards in a touchdown, and it's a three point game

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in halftime, and you're thinking, okay, you started out hot

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with seven nothing, getting the long touchdown on one of

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your earlier drives. The Raiders they knocked out thirteen points

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in a row. But you come right back, You cut

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into that deficit before halftime, and you're at home, you

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have the home crowd behind you.

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Speaker 5: It was a complete one to eighty. In the second half.

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Speaker 3: Ratler really struggled, but again the Raiders defense stiphened up right.

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second half. The Raiders sacked Spence Ratler four times.

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Speaker 5: In that game.

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Speaker 3: You sacked eight and O'Connell one time in that game,

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you made aid and O'Connell look like a competent NFL

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starting quarterback, which he most certainly is not. Eight and

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O'Connell in this game twenty of thirty five two and

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forty two yards and two touchdowns, and even when you

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got pressure on him, he was able to escape it.

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Speaker 5: You didn't tackle well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's not a whole lot of positives

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some positives, here they are again. I thought Spencer Rattler

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did about as good as he could under these particular

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circumstances because he was under duress all game. His receivers

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did not bail him out. And there's been a lot

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of discussion on Spencer Rattler. Can he be the quarterback

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of the future?

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Speaker 5: Can he not be?

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Speaker 3: At times we've seen him make great plays. At times

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we've seen some stinkers. But just think about what he

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has to work with right now. You're starting running back,

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even though I question whether he should be. Is Kendre Miller.

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You spent a third round draft pick on Kendre Miller.

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He is the highest draft pick of any of your

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skill positions. In terms of players you drafted, you didn't

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draft Moro Tipton, wasn't drafted Cedric Wilson, you didn't draft

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Spencer Rattler himself was lower than a third round pick.

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you invested in. Is Kendre Miller as a third round pick?

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What rookie quarterback is going to thrive under that system

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when there's absolutely no weapons to throw to. You got

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your third string running back in there, and you have

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a makeshift offensive line in front of you that's frankly

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not that good even when they're fully healthy. I don't

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put a lot of the blame on Spencer Ratler. Did

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he make some bone headed throws? Sure he did. He's

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a rookie that was drafted late in the draft that

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has had to play a lot more than you thought

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he would with no weapons around it.

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Speaker 5: Did he make some nice throws? He did.

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Speaker 3: He made some flash players where you're like, Okay, maybe

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there's a little something here. I'll go back to the

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Foster Moro touchdown. If you watch that, they pitched to

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Kendre Miller to the right, Miller tosses it back left.

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Speaker 5: Sus Spencer rattler.

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Speaker 3: He's got Juwan Johnson on a crossing out right there

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for about a twenty yard game. But Rawtler wants to

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go for the juggler. He wants to take that long pass.

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Not many guys out there can make that throw across

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the field into the corner of the end zone. He

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dropped it into the bucket to Foster Mora, who was

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an excellent throw. It's probably the best throw I've seen

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him make since he was a rookie. So you have

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that going for you. He had the late interception in

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that game, but he was just trying to make a

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play and at that point it didn't really matter because

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you're down by fourteen just under three minutes to go,

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that didn't matter. Another positive that I want to point out,

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and if you look at the stat sheet, he didn't

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light up the stat sheet or anything like that. But

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Clyde Edwards Laira got into the game. He had three

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carries in this game for or He had five carries

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for twenty yards. We average four yards per carre. And

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this is a guy that has been with your organization

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for less than two weeks. Now, and it's awful to

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say five carries for twenty yards is by far the

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best of any of your running backs. He had five

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for twelve. Jamal Williams said he had five for twenty.

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Jamal Williams two for twelve. Kendre Miller just three carries

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for three yards, which he was supposed to take advantage

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of this opportunity, right. Alvin Kamara has been down for

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two weeks. All you heard Kendre Miller say was well,

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you know, I wasn't really heard. It was Dennis Allen

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keeping me out. Okay, here's your shot. Go take advantage

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of it, Go grab this job. He has not done that.

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He's looked really bad in two games as that bell

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call running back. He was ultimately replaced late in the

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game where they were just rolling with Jamal Williams because

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Clyde probably doesn't fully know the playbook yet. Jamal Williams,

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you're most trusted back right now because Kendre Miller's just

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not making it happen for you. But clad edwit Zilarira

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got out there five carries twenty yards. He had a

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nine yard run in the first quarter where he looked

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really strong. Because this is a guy like a first

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round pick. He's had a thousand yards rushing in this league.

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Speaker 5: But what happened.

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Speaker 3: Injuries piled up. Then a guy by the name of

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Isaiah Pacheco gets you drafted by the Chiefs, really takes

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over that job from Clyad Edward Hilaira. And then Hilaire

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had been out all this year. You know, he dealt

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with PTSD because of the issue that happened here in

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Ben Rouge back in twenty nineteen, right before the twenty

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nineteen season occurred. Clyde's been through it as far as injuries,

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as far as mental health, as far as losing his

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starting job. He's back here in Louisiana, in New Orleans,

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and maybe that's kind of the one thing I want

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to watch going forward. In this last game with the Bucks,

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I don't think you have a shot of beating the

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Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They are playing a lot better than

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they were when you first met, and you were playing

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a lot worse than when you guys first met. Get

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Clyde edit zilair involved a little bit. Can you bring

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him back again?

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 3: You gave Alvin Kamara's money. He's been excellent he's getting

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a little older. KENDRAI Miller certainly doesn't look like the answer.

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Clyde editds Hlair can be a cheap option for this

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team moving forward. Give him a one year deal next year,

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see what happens. Give him a proven deal if nothing else,

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he could be a solid back to spell Alvin Kamara,

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who has a lot of wear and tear on that

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body right now. Also, the free publicity that LSU got

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in this game. Me and Musso, we're talking about it

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before we came on. Are Foster Moro had a really

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good game, three for forty seven and that thirty yard

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touchdown catch. Obviously, Clyde Edwards, Hilaireir got in there. Calevon

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Chason had a sack. Terrace Marshall had a big catch.

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He was a twenty eight yarder down the sidelines. He

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high pointed the football. He did a really nice job

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on that cause I would have liked to have seen

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them target him a little bit more.

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Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 3: LSU got a lot of free publicity. Spencer Ratler he

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wasn't terrible, and Clyde Edwards h Laiir got in there.

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There might be something there for the future. Outside of that,

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there's not a whole lot you could take away from

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this game. I think that you always talk about the

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interim bomp, right, and you saw it for the first

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three weeks. Darren Rizzy came in, he started winning some games.

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Everybody said, oh, well, it's already better than Dennis Allen.

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The interim bump has gone. This team his regress now

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the past two or three weeks, that spark you had

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from Darren Rizzy, he's gone. I don't see how he

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has retained this offseason.

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Speaker 5: I didn't think so.

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Speaker 3: After the loss to the Packers, the thirty four to

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nothing blowout on Monday Night football, then you lose to

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a Raiders team at home who you really should have beaten.

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I mean, that was the one win you had left

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on your season. I mean, in my opinion, they don't

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have a shot against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They're probably

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going to finish the season five and twelve. I don't

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see how Darren Rizzy gets the full time job. But

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that's just a few positives in a season filled with

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a lot of negatives for the New Orleans Saint Sorry,

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we're gonna take a quick time out when we get back.

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Harold Perkins made an announcement on Friday about what he

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plans to do with his future.

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Speaker 5: Is he coming back to bad Rouge? Is he moving on?

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that next here on Off the Bench

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and t Bob.

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Speaker 3: All Right, Welcome back into a Monday edition of Off

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the Bench. Taylor Sharp sitting in the host chair for

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Speaker 5: Probably on a plane right now.

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Speaker 3: He's headed out to cover the college football Round two

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playoff games. I'm not sure which one he's covering this weekend,

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but he will be there. And t Bob, well, if

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I told you, i'd be lying to I don't know

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where the hell Tybob is, but he's not here. We

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are here. Instead, I tease the going into break a

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little bit. Harold Perkins has made his decision on what

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he wants to do for his football future, and on Friday,

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about three o'clock in the afternoon, he announced that he

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is actually returning to LSU for the twenty twenty five season.

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This makes a lot of sense to me because if

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you look at his college career, where realistically would Harold

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Perkins get drafted. Not only is he coming off of

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a major injury, but he's kind of a guy without

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a position right now, if that makes sense. Now, we

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all saw him in twenty twenty one, right it is

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his freshman year. I mean he just or twenty twenty two,

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he burst onto the scene. He had seven and a

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half sacks, seventy two tackles, he had an interception, and

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people thought, well, this is the best defensive player in

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college football.

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Speaker 5: Now in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Three, moved him more towards that middle linebacker spot, and

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there was there was mixed results, right. We saw some things,

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we saw some things we obviously did not like, and

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then they kind of moved him back to the edge again.

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And a lot of people will say, oh, he was

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terrible in twenty twenty three. If you look at the numbers,

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seventy two tackles in twenty twenty two, seventy three and

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twenty twenty five, same number of tackles for a loss

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with thirteen one interception. Each year, you'd seven and a

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half sacks as a freshman. You had five and a

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half sacks as a sophomore. So once you moved him

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back to that edge position. His numbers in twenty three

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are really similar to what they were in twenty two.

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It's just when you saw him at linebacker, you could

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tell that he was out of place. Then this season

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you wanted to try him in that star role, right,

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the role that Major Burns ultimately took over. We really

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only saw him there for one full game, and before

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he really got started, he has the injury. He's done

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for the season. The reason I mentioned Isaiah Simmons and

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why this makes sense for Harold Perkins to come back.

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If you remember Isaiah Simmons, he was still out on

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that those Clemson Dabbo teams that won the national titles,

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and everybody said, hey, he can play linebacker, he can

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play safety, he could rush off the edge. It doesn't

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matter where this guy plays. He could make an impact.

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You look at Isaiah Simmons, He's been in the league

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for five seasons now. In twenty twenty one with Arizona

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Cardinals probably his best year. He had one hundred and

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five tackles, he had four tackles for a loss, and

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he had four sacks. Then the next season he followed

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it up ninety nine tackles five tackles for a loss

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two sacks, So like, Okay, he's got a little bit going.

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He's never had over fifty four sacks any of the

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other three years that he's played. And the reason why

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is he's kind of in that tweiner role a lot

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like a Harold Perkins. Perkins needs to find one position

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and stick to it. Now, a lot of people want

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to put him back on the edge. When I get it.

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Freshman year, he was excellent. He was your edge thresher.

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Two problems. One, he got schemed out of games. Me

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and Moose were literally just talking about this during break.

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As good as he was in the Arkansas game, the

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very next week, you saw Alabama say, okay, you're on

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the left side of the defense. We're running all of

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our plays to the right. Oh you're lining up on

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the right. Well, we're just gonna go to the left.

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And they completely schemed him out of games, and essentially

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he was a non factor, and he disappeared in those

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big ball games with teams that knew how to scheme around.

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It's part of the reason you moved him to inside.

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You said, hey, if he's in the middle of the defense,

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it's harder to scheme around him, which on paper is

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a good thought. He just never really looked comfortable at

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that puremidle linebacker spot. So where can he play this year? Again,

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a lot of people say edge, but you're also really

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good at edge. All of a sudden, sure, you lose Swinson,

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you lose Saveon Jones, you lose to Shaan Womack, who's

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going to old Miss Gabriel Releaford showed a lot of

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flashes as a true freshman. Then you signed Jack Piebar,

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and you signed Patrick Paydon, and you signed Jamari Butler

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from Nebraska. All of a sudden, you have four guys

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that you believe could make a big, big impact on

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this team at edge Rusher. I'm not saying don't blitz Perkins,

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but there are bigger needs left to fill that I

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think Perkins can help you, mainly the star position. A

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report came out this weekend that reportedly Major Burns is

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not with the team in Houston, so it doesn't look

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like he's going to play in the bowl game.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Harrol Perkins is not going to help you in

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the bowl game, but there's a spot up for grabs

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at the star position. You would initially think JV and Toviano,

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But just a few weeks ago Brian Kelly said, hey,

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we have moved JV and Toviano to safety permanently. I

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think that's his more natural position. Let him learn that

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position instead of moving him to safety and then moving

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him back to nickel. We saw it with Say Dryan. Now, look,

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Say Dryan, A lot of people say a lot of

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different things about him. But I gave sagea pass up

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until this year because Sadryan came to LSU as a

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five star safety out of necessity. He made him play

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nickel for two years. Then you actually had him moved

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to corner. He had never really played his true position

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until this season. Now we finally saw it. There were

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some mixed results, But what would have happened if SA

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Dryan would have played safety from the jump? I like

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Harrold Perkins ad Nickel, not only because we had seen

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him play there and he showed flashes. There's a big

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hole there with major burns leaving. And here's what you

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can do in that star role in Blake Baker's defense

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if you need an extra pass rusher, Well, just screwed

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him up a little bit. He can blitz off the

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edge from the star position. You need him in coverage.

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Back him up is a third safety. What about linebacker?

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You need a three linebacker set instead of a two.

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He can scoot and he can cheat inside a little

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bit and play that spot. He can play all of

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those hybrid roles from one true position at star And

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you may say, okay, well if you line him up

474
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and blitz him off the edge, what happens? Then you

475
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can move a jv in Tooviano or a Joel Rogers.

476
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We'll see what he asked. Juwan Johnson was the number

477
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two star in fall camp behind Major Burns. They wound

478
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up moving him to offense at a necessity. He wound

479
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up moving him back to defense, and he didn't play

480
00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:45,720
a ton, but he's certainly a guy that's athletic enough

481
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to do it. There's options there, but the star position

482
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very much up for grabs. And it's one that when

483
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I see Harold Perkins, that's where we see because what

484
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,119
do we talk about college football is expanding. You have

485
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,799
the no huddle offenses, right, you get the ball in space.

486
00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:06,079
Haryl Perkins was a great tackler out in space, as

487
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good as he was and rushing the passer. A lot

488
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,079
of people forget he wasn't bad in pass coverage even

489
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as a true freshman. When he had that interception in

490
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the Auburn game, which really helped you seal the deal.

491
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It was the it was the fake play with a

492
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Koy Moore that I'm sure every Lshue fan loft to see.

493
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After more transferred Perkins, he kind of cheated up a

494
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little bit, looked like he was gonna blitz at the

495
00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:28,799
snap of the ball. He bailed. He was right there

496
00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:30,599
for the ball. I mean, he's got the ball skills

497
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,799
to do it. He's got the size, he's got the speed,

498
00:22:32,839 --> 00:22:34,759
he can blitz off the edge, and we've seen him cover.

499
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,160
I think out of all the positions on the field,

500
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Star is that spot where maybe he could make the

501
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biggest impact. Because of all the things we just talked about, right,

502
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,200
I don't think he's got the natural ability to play

503
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:48,880
that safety role.

504
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Speaker 5: I think that's a little bit too much for him.

505
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 3: And then again, going back to your depth, all of

506
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a sudden, it outside lineback Jack Pieburn, Patrick Paydon, Jamari Butler,

507
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,359
Gabriel Relevant and those guys are going to be battling

508
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,799
each other for reps. Do you really want to stick

509
00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:06,920
Perkins in there? Because a guy like Perkins, you stick

510
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,839
him at that pass rushing role. He's not going to

511
00:23:08,839 --> 00:23:10,920
be an every down player. And that's what you saw

512
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,599
from him as a freshman. Again, I mentioned how his

513
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,039
numbers were similar from twenty two to twenty three. The

514
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reason it seemed like he made such a bigger impact

515
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,000
as a freshman it is because he wasn't an every

516
00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:22,039
down player, but when he went in there, he made

517
00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:24,880
the most of it. In twenty three, the overall numbers

518
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,720
were similar, but there weren't as many big plays right.

519
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There weren't as many splash plays and these key moments.

520
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,640
I want Harold Perkins on the field as much as

521
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,759
I could possibly do. I think the best route to

522
00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:37,160
that is that the star position filled by Major Burns.

523
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Speaker 5: Now. Look, we'll ultimately see what they do.

524
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: I think spring football is going to tell us a

525
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,680
lot about where they like Harold Perkins. But I think

526
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,759
this was a great decision by him to come back,

527
00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:48,920
because again, two years ago, everyone said, hey, this guy's

528
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,279
going to be a first round pick. I gotta tell you,

529
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,440
I don't know where Harold Perkins gets drafted because you know,

530
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,599
he's he's had some mixed opinions of it in the

531
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,640
last two seasons, and he's coming off of a major

532
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,960
injury the cost in the r season, and he probably

533
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,440
goes fifth round, fourth round if he comes out this year.

534
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 5: He had absolutely best.

535
00:24:05,559 --> 00:24:08,279
Speaker 3: There's a great decision for him to come back and

536
00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:10,799
increase his draft stock and a huge win for Brian

537
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,480
Kelly and Blake Baker to strengthen up that defense and

538
00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:16,160
hopefully put a player in a huge position of need

539
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,519
heading into the twenty twenty five season. All right, look,

540
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we're gonna take a quick time out when we get back.

541
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Bill Barnwell recently put out a list of head coaching

542
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openings in the NFL.

543
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Speaker 5: Now he has nine.

544
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Speaker 3: Now these are ones that have either already came open

545
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or ones that he believed could come open. Where he

546
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ranked them, Saints not surprising more towards the bottom of

547
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that list. We'll talk about it and we get back

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all right, so look it TA is that going into

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break there? Bill Barnwell for ESPN. Uh he put out

596
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on ESPN dot com last Thursday. He he predicts nine

597
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head coaching openings now for what it's worth all nine

598
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,559
of these are probably not going to come open, Like

599
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I'm not here's the Dolphins on here, I'm not sure

600
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:10,400
the Dolphins come open. And then the Raiders have won

601
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back to back games. We'll see what happens there. The Giants,

602
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,519
they just won a game. What do they do with

603
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,119
day ball? What do the Jags do? They won yesterday?

604
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,880
But here's what he does is nine teams and he

605
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,640
goes best to worst. The best team he has as

606
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far as potential head coaching openings is what would be

607
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:32,559
the most desirable too candidates is the Jacksonville Jaguars. That

608
00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:34,039
makes a lot of sense, right. You have a quarterback

609
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under a big contract, but you have a young quarterback.

610
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And while Trevor Lawrence the last year year and a

611
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:40,359
half or so has really struggled, you saw that really

612
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,680
good second season from it. He took the Jags playoffs.

613
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They had a come from behind victory over the Chargers.

614
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He was able to advance in the second round and

615
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,799
almost won that game as well. So we know Trevor

616
00:27:50,839 --> 00:27:53,880
Lawrence can get it done when everything around him is working.

617
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You also have Brian Thomas Junior, who set a Jags

618
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franchise record. He's a thousand yard rookie receiver. Travis Eten's

619
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a young player, Tank Bigsby's a young player. Both of

620
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them look really good in that backfield, So you have

621
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a lot of young, solid pieces to work with. Jacksonville

622
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:12,519
makes a lot of sense in a really winnable division.

623
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Speaker 5: I may then he has the Dolphins.

624
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Speaker 3: I don't think the Dolphins job opens up, but again

625
00:28:19,039 --> 00:28:21,599
for obvious reasons, that one's intriguing as well. Devon Ah Chang,

626
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,839
Jalen Waddle, Tyreek Hill. We don't know how much longer

627
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,759
Hill's going to be there, but he's there for right now.

628
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,519
You do have the two wist situation, though, what does

629
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:32,200
his injury history look like? What is his future in

630
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,799
the NFL? At three, he has the Bears. I get

631
00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:39,240
it right. Whatever you think of Kyle Williams, I personally

632
00:28:39,799 --> 00:28:42,000
do not think that Kayler Williams is going to ultimately

633
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,839
be the long term answer for the Chicago Bears. I

634
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,480
have made that about as clear as I can possibly

635
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,519
make on this show multiple times. But you have a

636
00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:52,759
young quarterback in an offensive minded coach like a Ben

637
00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:55,880
Johnson or someone along those lines, say Hey, I can

638
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,759
develop this guy, I can help this guy Win. You

639
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:01,119
have the receivers on the outside. You got the savvy

640
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,799
Vett and Keenan Allen, you have DJ Moore, and then

641
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:06,319
you got the exciting rookie in Roman Dunze. You have

642
00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:08,319
all the weapons needed on the offensive side if you

643
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:10,559
shore up that defense. I can see it. With the

644
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Chicago Bis, their issue is their tough division. I mean,

645
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they're going against the Green Bay Packers, Detroit Lions, and

646
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Minnesota Vikings, who all look like could possibly be the

647
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:20,640
best teams in the NFC, and they're all in the

648
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,400
same division. There's the Patriots, who do they move on

649
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,000
from Gerrod Mayo for a year? You do have Drake May.

650
00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:29,079
Drake may has looked really good at times this year,

651
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:31,160
a lot better than most thought he would this early

652
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,759
in his career. Then there's the Giants, which I don't

653
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,440
know about. The saving grace for the Giants is they

654
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,920
had a good defensive line and elite neighbors Tyrone Tracy.

655
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Both of them went over one thousand yards this past

656
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Sunday and they are both rookie. So you have two

657
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,799
rookie weapons on offense that you know are going to

658
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be there for the foreseeable future. And right now, they'll

659
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:54,680
run pretty cheap contracts. Can you get the quarterback situation right?

660
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Although Drew Lock five touchdowns yesterday and a must have

661
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a game, he was excellent. Then come the Tennessee Titans

662
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,880
at six. Then he has the Raiders, which we'll get into.

663
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Then the Jets at eight, the New Orleans Saints at nine.

664
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Obviously the Saints have a lot of issues, right we

665
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:17,759
talk about it, the worst cap situation in the NFL. Now,

666
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you have a lot of veteran leaders on this team,

667
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,480
but they're all getting older, right to Mario Davis thirty

668
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:25,319
five years old. Cam Jordan, he's over thirty four years old.

669
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Tyron Matthew, he's getting up there in age. We just

670
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:29,880
talked about Alvin Kamara. You gave him a big contract,

671
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but how many more years left of this version of

672
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Alvin Kamara does he possibly have? You do have some

673
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exciting young weapons. You have a Rashid Jhahib, he's coming

674
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off of the season Indian injury. What about Chris Alvey,

675
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He suffered a heck of a lot of concussions. What

676
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does his NFL future look like? There's so many question marks,

677
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:52,160
I mean, really, outside of Talasa Fuaga, Brian berci, A Lante, Taylor,

678
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,119
Paulson Adebo. I mean, there is a ton of question

679
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,720
marks on this team, all of those guys who are

680
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,839
young and exciting players, but it's not enough to build around.

681
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: And again the cap situation, what.

682
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Speaker 3: Realistic big time free agent can you bring in in

683
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the offseason. Whichever head coach takes this Saints job is

684
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,559
management's going to have to explain to them, hey, or

685
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:14,720
they're going to have to explain to management, hey, my

686
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:18,079
first year is a Mulloch first year, nothing but a

687
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:20,240
trial run. Let me get this thing going in the

688
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,799
right direction. Year two is the year where we're really

689
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going to start competing, because the Saints are not just

690
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:31,119
the year what now for better or worse. The front

691
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,000
office for the Saints has shown to have a lot

692
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:36,119
of patience, have shown to give guys longer leashes, longer

693
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,559
leashes than they probably should get. So that's intriguing to

694
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:42,880
a head coach. Something else that's intriguing to a candidate.

695
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,160
A really easy division. I think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

696
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,400
are going to win this division, especially with what Jayden

697
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,480
and Daniels and the Commanders did to the Atlanta Falcons

698
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:55,240
last night. But you Baker and the Bucks who they're

699
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,759
a good team, but they certainly have their flaws. What

700
00:31:57,799 --> 00:31:59,680
are the Falcons going to look like with Michael Pennock

701
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,559
Junior moving forward. I know a lot of people are

702
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:05,400
going to say Michael Pennock has looked excellent. Look I

703
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,839
don't look into rookie performances that much because it's hard

704
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:09,880
to play quarterback in the National Football League.

705
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Speaker 5: These guys are going to struggle.

706
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: I don't think Michael Pennock has looked that good, and

707
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:15,599
that certainly does not mean that he can't get better.

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Keep in mind, this is his second start. He's done

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things needed to win the game, but he's made a

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lot of mistakes.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 3: The interception he threw last week wasn't his fault. There

713
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was one that was dropped. It was his fault. He

714
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threw a pick last night, should have thrown two. More So,

715
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there has been a lot of positives with Michael Penick Junior.

716
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:33,839
There's been some negatives as well. Jury is very much

717
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:39,359
still out on a guy like Michael Pennock Junior. Are

718
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there any teams less desirable though than the New Orleans Saints?

719
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Speaker 5: I bring that up because obviously.

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Speaker 3: Look, the Saints have their issue, worst cap situation in

721
00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:49,279
the league, tons of dead money.

722
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Speaker 5: Most of you superstars are in the twilight years of

723
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their careers.

724
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Speaker 3: But in no way do I think the New Orleans

725
00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:58,160
Sayings are a worse job than the New York Jets. Look,

726
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,799
we laughed at Woody Johnson too weeks ago, right when

727
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:02,680
it came out that, oh, he didn't sign this guy

728
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,039
because his Madden rating wasn't high enough. He's got his

729
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:07,880
son's brick and Jack which brick phenomenal name for someone

730
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,599
to be in a front office position. These guys are

731
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making decisions for him who wants to go there? But also,

732
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:16,880
Aaron Rodgers looks.

733
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Speaker 5: Like he's done. I think he's done.

734
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Speaker 3: He actually got replaced yesterday in the game by Tyrod Taylor,

735
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and Tyrod Taylor was a lot better than Aaron Rodgers.

736
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:27,599
Aaron Rodgers two picks yesterday. The Jets drop another game,

737
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and again I've talked about it. Aaron Rodgers has a

738
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,039
run out of people to blame for the shortcomings lately

739
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:35,400
in his career. He won a Super Bowl with Mike

740
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,799
McCarthy in Green bat He never could replicate it, So

741
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:40,279
what does he do. Oh, well, Mike McCarthy's the problem.

742
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:45,359
I want Matt Lafleur. Matt Lafleur comes in. Can't win

743
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,599
with Matt Lafleur while I'm out of here. I want

744
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:49,039
to him pick my team. I want to go to

745
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the New York Jets.

746
00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:50,359
Speaker 5: This is the team.

747
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: This is the coaching staff that I can win with. Well,

748
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,839
if you can't win with them, your head coach winds

749
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,000
up getting fired. Well, that's no big deal. That was

750
00:33:57,079 --> 00:34:00,839
Robert Salazs fault. That's not Aaron Rodgers' fault. Robert Sala's gone.

751
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,920
You're worse with him? Are you worse without him than

752
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,519
you are with it? Right now, Zach Wilson and Sam

753
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:07,759
Darnold have better winning percentages with the New York Jets

754
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:10,920
than Aaron Rodgers does. Rodgers is running out of people

755
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,880
to point. But let's say they move on from Rogers.

756
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,440
Let's say Aaron Rodgers retires. I doubt you're keeping Davante

757
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:19,360
Adams at that point. He is an aging veteran on

758
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,360
a big contract. His boy Aaron Rodgers isn't there with him.

759
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,800
I don't think you hold on to Davante Adams. And

760
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,559
then if Davanta Adams and Aaron Rodgers are gone. Does

761
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,280
Garrett Wilson want to re sign with your team? Now

762
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,960
you have Breese Hall, you have Braylan Allen, so you

763
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,599
have two really solid pieces as far as running backs go.

764
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Speaker 5: But I mean that is that enough?

765
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Speaker 3: Because if you lose Garrett Wilson, Vante Adams and Aaron Rodgers,

766
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:48,239
how desirable does that job become? And you can say, okay, well,

767
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,559
their roster top to bottom is younger than the New

768
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,360
Orleans Saints and they're paying less money. That is very true.

769
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:56,639
I've mentioned it that the Saints have these aging superstars.

770
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,079
At least they will have a veteran presence ast, they

771
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:01,920
will have leaders in the locker room.

772
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Speaker 5: The Jets right now don't have any of that.

773
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Speaker 3: And let's not forget the massive expectations that it takes

774
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:11,880
when you're the head coach of a team that's in

775
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,320
New York. I mean, look at look at the short

776
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,880
leashes that they give all these coaches. I talked about

777
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,519
it for better or Worse, Mickey Loomis, Gale Benson in company.

778
00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:23,920
They give coaches long leashes, maybe longer leashes than they deserve.

779
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:26,000
It's kind of the opposite of the New York Jets.

780
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:31,719
So with the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers' career, I mean,

781
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,440
I don't see a resurgence coming anytime soon. What do

782
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,719
you do with Devonte Adams? Can you get Garrett Wilson

783
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,239
to re sign? And all the pressure and all the

784
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,199
expectations come with coaching Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets,

785
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,400
you don't have that in New Orleans.

786
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 5: New Orleans is certainly I think they're two years away.

787
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,599
Speaker 3: But if the front office and management of the New

788
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,000
Orleans Saints explained to a coaching candidate, hey, you have

789
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:55,559
two years where you're not going to be judged, rebuild

790
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:59,039
this thing you're judged off of year three, I think

791
00:35:59,039 --> 00:36:01,159
the Saints could be a could be a better spot

792
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,519
than the New York Jets. Going back to the Easy Division.

793
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,639
As bad as the Saints are, that division is not

794
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:12,400
world beaters. The Panthers are terrible. The Falcons, we don't

795
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,719
really know what their future looks like with Michael Pennick junior.

796
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,679
The Bucks have found in their answer a quarterback with

797
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,960
Baker Mayfield, but they saw a lot of holes on

798
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,760
that team, including the defense, which has really gotten worse

799
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,440
as the season's gone along. And then on the flip

800
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,639
side of your the Jets, are you better than the

801
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:30,880
Dolphins right now? I don't think so. You obviously have

802
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,360
to go through Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills, who

803
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,119
look like they're going to control that division for the

804
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:37,320
near future. And we just talked about Drake May and

805
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,440
how much promise he's shown with the New England Patriots.

806
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,679
That is a really tough division, and right now the

807
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,960
Jets are kind of looking up at everybody, so more expectation.

808
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:47,199
You don't know who your leaders on that team are

809
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:50,360
going to be, and a lot tougher division. As bad

810
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,599
as the Saints are, I don't know if they're hands

811
00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:56,320
down the least desirable opening out of the nine. But

812
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,079
the point is the Saints are obviously not going to

813
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:03,920
have They're picking the barrel right. If the Jags comes open,

814
00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:08,079
I do like that job better. If the Giants comes open,

815
00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:10,840
I certainly like that job better. The Bears is already open,

816
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:12,000
I like that job better.

817
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 5: As well.

818
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: As tough as that division is, we'll keep an eye

819
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,199
on it though. We'll hear things, you know, rumblings of

820
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,199
where they're leaning for what it's worth. Mickey Loomis this

821
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,079
weekend said he wants to hire a head coach that

822
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:24,000
he knows. Now, if you're like me and you saw that,

823
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:26,760
you said, well, Aaron Glenn, that's probably you right there.

824
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:29,440
I'm sure Saints fans would have mixed opinions about that.

825
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,239
I think you could do a lot worse than Aaron Glenn.

826
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,360
But you know, there's guys out there that Loomis knows

827
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,280
that we may not even be thinking though right now.

828
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:37,639
So it'll certainly be interesting to watch as a Saints'

829
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:41,119
coaching search continues. All right, we're going to take a

830
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,960
quick time out when we get back, we're going to

831
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,079
look at the NFL playoff picture. Obviously the AFC, who

832
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:50,440
the favorites are in that conference is pretty much said Stone.

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00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 5: There's about two or three teams at the top.

834
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,159
Speaker 3: The NFC looks a lot different right now, and it

835
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,960
had some mix ups after last night results.

836
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the ninth ranked morning sports show in America,

861
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Speaker 3: Welcome back into a Monday edition of Off the bench.

863
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,519
We're just here for today and then we have I mean,

864
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,639
Cassie have New Year's Eve ofl if I got Matthew

865
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:29,360
Musso does not.

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Speaker 5: Cassie doesn't have New Year's evol Wait, what do you got?

867
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Speaker 6: No?

868
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Speaker 8: I got it.

869
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Speaker 7: I gotta work.

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Speaker 3: Preakame only one in this room that does not have

871
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to work on New Year's Eve.

872
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Speaker 5: I think so. Look at that. My day is beginning

873
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to turn around already. Guys.

874
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Speaker 3: Anyways, look, if you're not aware of what's going on

875
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,840
in guarantee, right now we are pretty much skeleton crew.

876
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:53,280
I'm in the host chair, Mussa in the audio chair,

877
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,360
Cassie and video on AFR, Musa in the host share,

878
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,639
I am on audio, Cassie once again on video. So, guys,

879
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,800
we going to have a lot of fun. We might

880
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,400
be delusional during the last hour of AFR. We'll see

881
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,760
where Musso takes that show. We can't make any promises

882
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,280
because we are running on fumes right now. But look,

883
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,320
right now, before we hit that top of the hour break,

884
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,920
I want to talk NFL playoff Pitcher last night and

885
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,880
obviously had a lot of shakeups because the commanders clinched

886
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,159
a spot the Atlanta Falcons, to the dismay of a

887
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:27,760
lot of Saints fans, I am sure no longer control

888
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,719
their own destiny for the playoffs. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

889
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:32,719
All they have to do next week is beat the

890
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,199
New Orleans Saints. They will clinch the NFC South. So

891
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,639
when you look at the AFC, there are three teams

892
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:43,559
that have really stood out all year long, and it's

893
00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:46,840
kind of you your usual suspects, right The Kansas City

894
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,400
Chiefs at fifteen and one, which is just disgusting. The

895
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,360
Buffalo Bills, who won again yesterday in dominating fashion over

896
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:59,199
my favorite quarterback, Aaron Rodgers. And the Baltimore Ravens with

897
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,400
Lamar Jackson. All three of those teams elite quarterbacks, really

898
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,239
good defenses, and can run the football. Those are kind

899
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,840
of the three that are fighting right now. Anybody who's

900
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,760
gonna pick anybody to come out of the AFC is

901
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,400
probably going to pick one of those three teams. The NFC, however,

902
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:18,679
a lot different. I mean, you look at the Philadelphia Eagles.

903
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,559
They've looked really good at times, but a lot of

904
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:23,360
people still don't trust Nick Sirianni. Jalen Hurts has had

905
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,840
an up and down year, the Lions are the best

906
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,639
team win healthy. But to kind of paint a picture

907
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:31,159
of how injured the Detroit Lions are right now, they

908
00:41:31,159 --> 00:41:35,519
have twenty one players on aisle are twenty one, So

909
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:39,239
as good as Jared golf is, as good as Saint Brown, Laporta, Gibbs,

910
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,159
everybody on that offense is. Their defense is beat all hell,

911
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,280
and you have some injuries on the offensive line as well.

912
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,880
Can they hold up for a playoff run because they're

913
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:52,480
already super injured. What about the La Rams, They're getting healthier.

914
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,119
They're nine and six right now, have two games left

915
00:41:56,159 --> 00:41:58,320
the Cardinals and the Seahawks, who are both trending in

916
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,960
the wrong direction. Kopp is back healthy, even though he

917
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,519
completely disappeared this weekend. Stafford's healthy, The O Lion's getting healthier.

918
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,360
You got Kyen Williams, you got Blake Korum, Pukaakua. He's

919
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,320
showing that last year was not just a flash in

920
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,679
the pan, that he really is an elite NFL wide receiver.

921
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,280
And you have Sean mcvett with Matthew Stafford, who've already

922
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,880
won a Super Bowl together. They know how to win

923
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,239
these big games together. To me, that's a team to

924
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,800
watch off for Moose, Like for the NFC right now,

925
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,639
who is your favorite to come out of this conference

926
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:28,079
because somebody's got to win the damn thing.

927
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's the Philadelphia Eagles. When

928
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,079
all said and done, you get into the playoffs. They're

929
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:37,079
gonna have the best player in the playoffs in Saquon Barkley,

930
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:39,800
and that matters. And he's shown now that he doesn't

931
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,360
necessarily need Jalen Hurts, and Jalen Hurts will be back

932
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:44,679
obviously at some point in the playoffs, at least we think,

933
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,679
and that just has another dimension of Barkley's game. But

934
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:50,079
I mean, the guy just went bananas again yesterday with

935
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,199
Kenny Pickett back there. So I like their defense an

936
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:55,159
awful lot. That's always been a strength to them. This year,

937
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:57,840
Saquan is just a big difference maker before the injuries,

938
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,760
I would have told you the Lions, but you gotta

939
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,800
have depth in the playoffs and they are just going

940
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,000
to be lacking that severely.

941
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then your backup quarterback is Teddy Bridgewater, who has

943
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been there man about long enough to be handed the playbook.

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If look as good as Teddy's been as a backup quarterback.

945
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I mean, he's kind of one of those guys you're like,

946
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you don't want to play on words on his last name.

947
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He's the ultimate Bridge guy though. That's what he's been.

948
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He hasn't played in.

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Speaker 5: A year, though.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't really know what we're going to

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get from Teddy Bridgewater. No, obviously, he's still staying in

952
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shape and all that, and he's smart enough to where

953
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he knows the game. But if Jared Goff goes down,

954
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I don't know what this team looks like because you

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have a hindon hooker who hasn't played. You obviously didn't

956
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feel confident in or you wouldn't have brought in Teddy

957
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Bridgewater and a backup quarterback in Teddy Bridgewater hadn't played

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football and over a year. The Detroit Lions scared me Again.

959
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I look at the Rams. They're getting healthier. They're probably

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going to win that division. But I'm with you on

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the Philadelphia Eagles for also, it looks like they're going

962
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to have home field advantage at least for most of

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the NFL playoffs, at.

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Speaker 5: Least for the first round.

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Speaker 3: That team and that stadium is hard to beat, and

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they're a team that travels well for all the reasons

967
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you just mentioned. Their defense is a lot better than

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it was a year ago. And you have sa Kwon Barkley.

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He's one hundred and one yards away from breaking Eric

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Dickers in single season rushing record.

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Speaker 5: And I hope he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: I hope they give him the ball thirty forty times

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next week, whatever it takes to break that record. But

974
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to Moos's point, like you're winning without Jalen Hurts and

975
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Canny Pickett went down yesterday, Tanner McKee, their third string quarterback,

976
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comes into the game throws a dime to aj Brown

977
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for the touchdown. This team right now is showing that

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they were able to overcome injuries. I think they have

979
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a little bit more depth than the Detroit Lions because

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of all the injuries Lions out.

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Speaker 5: Eagles have a few.

982
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Speaker 3: But if they can get Jalen Hurts back, all of

983
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a sudden, they look really healthy. Detroit's more than just

984
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one player away. I mean half of their defensive starters

985
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are out. You have an injury on the offensive line,

986
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David Montgomery's been in and out of the lineup. How's

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that going to look? And then I think you saw

988
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have a lot of question marks at your secondary receiver

989
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outside of Amen Ross Saint Brown, because Jamison Williams, He's

990
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had injury and turns throughout his entire career.

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Speaker 5: It's something to keep an eye on.

992
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Speaker 3: Is as dominant as they say the AFC is, and

993
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it is, It's a little top heavy right now. I

994
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think out of those top three teams there's a pretty

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big drop off in the NFC right now, there's about

996
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five or six teams. I could look at and if

997
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you told me you thought they were gonna win the

998
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whole thing, I'm not even batting an eyelash.

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Speaker 5: I might.

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Speaker 3: I might roll with it. That conference is wide open

1001
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right now. We'll see who takes control of it.

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Speaker 5: All right. That's going to do it.

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Speaker 3: For hour number one and hour number two, we're gonna

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have LSU Baylor Texas Ball. We're gonna talk portal with

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Zach Naggy. That's all coming up on the other side

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of this. Stay tuned two more hours of Off the Bench.

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You're on a Monday edition. You're on one oh four

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