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Lynn k Russell, Heyden, Lynn, Hi, how are you doing.

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Thank you so much for coming on the show. I

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am excited to talk to you and go deep down

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the ND rabbit hole with you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and that's what I do.

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Speaker 1: Yes. You know, near death experiences, So near death experiences

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have been a big part of this show for a

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long time. I think my very one of my very

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first ones was Dan and Brinkley, who's also been around

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for a while. I think he was my very first

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near death experience and when I heard his story, I

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was just like, you got hit by lightning three times

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and he went to the other side and it was

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a pretty remarkable. And then I kept getting more and

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more of them on the show, and I kept talking

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to them and talking to them and it was fascinating.

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And I've heard of near death experiences, but I was

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really really fascinating. And every once in a while I

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get to talk to someone like yourself who's interviewed or

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had contact with thousands and thousands of near death experiences.

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But before we go down that rabbit hole, what got

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you interested in this field of study?

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Speaker 2: Well, just normal things. I was frightened of death, and

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so I wanted to know what happened when you die.

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And I had just retired, and I had spent my

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life looking at spirituality and religions, and I think it

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just was seeking truth, whatever that might be. And I

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had been raised by atheists, so I had no background

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or preconceived notions at all. So I really felt very,

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very open to almost any concepts that for me. And

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so that's what I did for about seventy years now.

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But then when I retired, I had all guns of

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time and I was on the NDERF chat line and

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doctor Long asked for somebody to do research for him,

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and I thought, perfect timing. So that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you worked with doctor Jeffrey Long, who was on

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the show as well, and he's one of those amazing

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researchers in this space who really helped shine a light

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along with Raymond Moody and a handful of others who've

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done that now in your in your So, yeah, you

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didn't have any programming, as I call it, no preconceived

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dogmas or anything like that walking into this. So you

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didn't oh, well, if I do this, am I going

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to go to hell? Or am I or am I

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going to do this? Or am I going to upset

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that God? You were just like very wide open.

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Speaker 2: Yes, very very and actually I really appreciate that. At

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the time, I wasn't sure because it was very confusing,

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but I'm very grateful.

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Speaker 1: Now. What was the biggest surprise that you found when

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you started to do researches on your death experiences.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that hit me the most was

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the oneness. And in the beginning of my book, I

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talk about an ste a spiritually transformative experience that I had,

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and that experience was on oneness, and it sort of

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put that in fronted me to be able to go

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in that direction, and so I think that that was

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the thing. I didn't understand it for a long time.

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I thought it just meant that we were similar, or

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you know, I was one as another human being. But

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now I've gotten to the point where I understand that

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one means one. There's one soul, one entity, one being

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that is the consciousness of the universe and we are it.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you said you had an ste can you

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explain what can you tell me that story of what

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happened to you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Sure, yes, I'd love to do.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: What happened was I was a single parent. I had

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three children too, no way, they were three, four and five, four,

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five and six. That's the two older ones. Yeah, in

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the afternoon, and the two older ones were in school

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and the youngest one was down from the afternoon now.

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and so the fact that it was always I had

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three experiences on completely different days. I had no idea

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they were coming, or I would have noticed. And so

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the first experience, I'm doing dishes, and as I say,

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the place is quite quiet, and there's a window above

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my sink and I can see into the yard, and

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in the yard there's a tree, an apple tree, and

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so I'm just looking at the tree and I'm really

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not thinking about anything, and all of a sudden, I

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became the tree. And it was like my consciousness was

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taken over and I literally became that tree, and the

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tree was me. There was no separation at all, and

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I was every kind of life form that I could

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think of. I was the bird in the tree. I

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was I bunked that the bird was going to eat.

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I was everything and other kinds of animals. And that

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was the end of the experience. It was like maybe

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thirty seconds long. I mean, I didn't time it, so

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I don't know, but I'm guessing it. And then the

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next experience was a few days later, and this time

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I'm wiping fingerprints off the whole wall and and I'm

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just looking at them all and again I'm not thinking

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of anything, and the place is quiet, and all of

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a sudden, I'm seeing an atom with the electrons going around,

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and then I see our solar system with the Sun

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and the planet's going around. And then that expanded to

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our galaxy and sister galaxies what I call sister I

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think they're called clusters, but anyway, so it was like

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micro to the macro universe. And while I'm getting this

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into this expansion, I'm getting messages that this didn't just happen,

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that there was order and planning and an intelligence behind

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it all, and that was really cool. I really enjoyed that.

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not like at all, and that was the end of

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the experience. And that message was that my being was

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intricately connected with the operation of the universe, and I

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couldn't get that. That scared me because I thought, what

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do you mean, what am I supposed to do? I'm

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really like this was in seventy three, so nineteen seventy three,

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so I really had no idea about any of this

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kind of thing. And then another thing that happened again,

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as I say, that was the end of that experience.

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room picking up toys and tidying up, and I felt

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a presence in the room with me, and there was

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it was like I couldn't see anything. I could just

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see my living room. That was it. But there was

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more love, like it was like I was being surrounded

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and impregnated with more love than I can ever imagine.

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whatever I called it positive energy force. So to this

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positive energy force, I felt like I mis connected. And

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then I heard words very clearly that said, this is

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where you came from and this is where you will return.

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And that was the last of my experiences. But that

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one taught me that not to be so afraid frightened

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of death because you know, this was such a beautiful experience. Hey, when.

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Speaker 1: So this is years years before you started doing research

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Speaker 2: It was during my experience. I started researching when I

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was sixteen, and this was when I was mid thirties.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you have been Oh so you've been doing

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this work for quite some time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, seventy seventy years this year.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so you've really seen He's really gone down the

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deep rabbital. It's fascinating because at those those years, I'm

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not even sure if NDEs were I think the first

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time Raymond Moody coined the phrase was what in the

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late seventies, right, So that was fine, Yeah, seventy mid seventies,

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seventy five when he when he said it. But the

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thing is that how having these mystical experiences at that

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time there weren't shows like this, there weren't books talking

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about it, so you were pretty I can imagine you

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being a little bit afraid of what was coming at

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you to a certain extent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I before that, when I was so

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frightened of death, that was what the whole thing was about.

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I wanted to find out what happened when you died.

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And my mother, being an atheist, had told me I

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just disappear, and I was an eight year old.

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Speaker 1: But you told me that that's terrifying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't disappear, and so I wanted to

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find a bitter answer. And that was the beginning of

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my studies, and then that branched out from there to

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to And it was only in those days because they're

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days was only religion. There was no spiritual kind of

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thinking at all, and so I studied all the religions

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and their histories, and what I found out I was

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looking for was truth. That was That's what it got

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down to. I was searching truth.

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Speaker 1: So from your experience, what are some common themes that

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you see across all near death experiences?

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's many, many, many, but one of the big

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ones is that when people there's two or three. But

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first of all, we create our own experiences. The death

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experience is what we think should happen. So that's point one.

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So that's why the variation between them and why different

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cultures will have different kinds of experiences is because we

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created the other thing was that almost universe. Everybody would

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feel this oneness. They didn't call it that, some did,

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some didn't, but they would say I felt like I

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was connected to everything and everything was connected to me.

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That was that was very significant for quite a few people.

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Speaker 1: And so the idea, and I love that you brought

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this up because I get this asked. I get questions

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like this all the time. But when people find out

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that I do a show like this, they're fascinated with

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near death experiences and what happens. And because there's not

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a soul on the planet who doesn't think about, hey,

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what happens after you die? Like we're all going there,

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you know, Like I always joke around, everybody wants to

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go to heaven, just not right now. But the thing

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that I love that you said is that you construct

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your own near death experience because there are because a

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lot of people who are you know, who like have

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a problem swallowing near death experiences, understanding or even comprehending them,

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will say well, it's not all peaches and unicorns and

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rainbows on the other side. Look, there's these other people

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who went to hell, went to a hellish experience on

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the other side. And to my understanding and also from

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the right, straight from the horse's mouth, I've had a

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few people who come on the show who've had negative

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or hellish like experiences. Generally, I'm gonna say ninety eight

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ninety nine percent are all positive or neutral in one way,

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shape or from. The hellish or negative experiences are extremely rare.

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But from what they told me is like my belief

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into a hellish experience. And once I was down there,

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once I decided I didn't want to be there anymore,

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Jesus an angel light came and took her, took him

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to where we all go in the other space. So

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if you will, or negative prison. Is that what you've

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come across as well? Well?

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Speaker 2: The people I had quite a few of the hellish

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experience as well, And what I have found is that

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that's what they thought they should have their image of

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themselves or their you know, their training or whatever they

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created that as well, because some people were taken out

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of that experience before they came back, and when they

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were at the positive place after they've been taken out,

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they said, what is that all about? And they were

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told repeatedly that that was your creation. You did that

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because that's what you thought you should have. The other

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piece of the business of recreating our death experiences is

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that it's exactly the same way we create this experience

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our life.

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Speaker 1: Dive into that a little bit, Yeah, dive into that

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a little bit. That's a very powerful statement.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because we are we are source. That the

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bottom line is we are source and there's and so

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we are magnificent. We can create and do anything we

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put our mind to do. And I know that people

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say that and it just sounds like a lot of

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good words, but it's true, It's really true. And so

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and so we are source and we create this experience

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from the point of view of being source. As a

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matter of fact, source is okay, So how do I

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explain this? We never left source. We are at this

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point right within source and we are thinking and creating

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this experience second by second, moment by moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, without question. And when you are creating this one

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of my favorite ND stories. I don't even remember which

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episode it was, but he said, and I always I

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always joke around that Jesus is the hardest working man

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in show business because he shows up to a lot

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of a lot of MDes, especially in the West, and

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people who don't even know or study Jesus still show up.

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went to the other side, Jesus was there in a

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three piece suit with his hair pulled back. And he goes,

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what it was just brilliant, which was brilliant, And he goes,

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he knew who of Jesus. He's just never follow him

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because he thought he was an atheist. He goes, Jesus,

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are if that's you, why are you dressed like that?

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He goes, well, you come from the business world. You

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wouldn't take me seriously if I showed up in a

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toga and I was like wow. So that was a

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literal construction of of that. So let me ask you.

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step by step if we killed. So once the body

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leaves or the soul leaves the body, there is a tunnel.

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on the culture, depending on where it is. But one

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of the very common themes is that you're you're welcomed

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by someone. Someone is there to help you to the

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other side. It could be a deity, could be Buddha,

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could be Jesus. I read somewhere in an ancient chin

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and ancient Chinese lore that politicians, terrifying as that is,

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politicians would show up to guide them through the other side.

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Apparently it was a different part of that different culture

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at that time. But then the but then there's your

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relatives or an aunt or uncle, or even a friend

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from just a random friend from school in third grade,

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that you recognize these kind of things. Is that what

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you found? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes. Not everybody is greeted by someone, but ninety

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percent of the people are. Yes, you're right, except our

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hellish people they're not. Also, they're not greeted. Usually they

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just have bad experiences. But yes, the ones who have

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positive experiences, I would say ninety percent of those are

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greeted by someone who's path And the reason why is

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because we are so steeped and this is really important,

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we are so steeped into being human, like all of

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our consciousness is being put into this experience, and so

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we don't understand that. I mean, we have complete amnesia

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when we come here, and so we don't understand our

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reality and we don't understand what's happening to us. We

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have all these myths about death and so on, and

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so we really it's a good idea to have a

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guide or else loved ones to help us through. And so, yeah,

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that's quite true. Some people go directly to wherever they're

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going to wind up. Other people are in outer space

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for a while. Some people go to the void, so

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there's different methods of getting there.

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Speaker 1: But yes, we'll be right back after a word from

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our sponsor, and now back to the show. And it

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is and the loved ones or the deities are there

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to pretty much help you with the transition, because, like

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you're saying, it is a very jarring jump out of

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it's essentially coming out of like a deep deep water

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in the middle of the ocean and coming into the light.

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It's extremely jarring to your and to my understanding. It's

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also very confusing. Sometimes you don't even know that you've died,

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and and you need someone there to kind of hey,

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it's gonna be okay, And they literally walk you through

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many times to the next to the next stage.

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Speaker 3: Correct, yeah, that's right, yes, yes, and so so they

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help you and and it just as I said, we

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create our own experience, so we also create who meets us?

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah? And it could and again on aunts, uncles,

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animals do animals and have you experienced that animals or

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pets are there as well as a transitional?

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Speaker 2: Sure your favorite pet, yep, for sure.

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Speaker 1: All that stuff comes in. So when you're so now

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you've you've got a transition, either you're with somebody or

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you're not with somebody. But then you're going to the

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next stage. And that next stage varies dramatically from crystal

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crystal castles to full cities to a green, a pasture,

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a forest. I mean, I've heard all of it, you know,

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all these different kinds of things. But from what I understand,

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one of the next stages, and not every stage, is

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the life review. Can you dive into your experiences from

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your research on the life review and the meaning it

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truly has for us? Here?

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Speaker 2: Okay, and before I go onto the light review, let's

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go back after I finished that and talk about other

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kinds of experiences other than.

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Speaker 1: So let's go. So let's go. So let's go into

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those first, and then we'll go into the life review.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, So well, yes, many many, many people.

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Because we are steeped in this existence. We we see

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ourselves as as physical and we continue to see ourselves physical.

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We've seen our body lying there, but we take a

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body with us in the ethereal body, and we created

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an ethereal world and that's our creation. So whatever, it's

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our favorite place, I want to go to the beach.

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these are people who enter into the light. Now there's

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two levels of that. There's those who enter into the

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light continue to see themselves as themselves and experiencing personal experiences,

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and then leave and communicate with the light, because the

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light is as a being with intelligence and great sense

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of humor. So but the other thing is that people

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will become the light. They melt and absolutely are the light,

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and when they're there, they become creators with the light,

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and they can go back to the beginning of the beginning,

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of the beginning, and there you know, I mean, there

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is no real beginning, but back to the beginning of

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our our universe and watch how it created and how

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it all evolved and gain last amounts of information. And

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sometimes they bring that information back and sometimes they don't, unfortunately.

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But anyway, but the point is that they lose that

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concept of self and become this the light. And when

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they lose the concept of self, they're aware that they

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were that person at one point in time and that

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they were these other life forms, you know, like notforms

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but reincarnated lights, and so they remember all of those,

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but they're just learning experiences and it doesn't have an

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it made you significance. And and so they I really

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think that is the most significant death experienceable, which has

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become the light.

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Speaker 1: So they basically go, they basically become part of the collective,

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if you will, the collective energy of this light. And

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to my understanding as well, that that the information that

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they are downloaded with is instant and they know basically

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they're piped into the Internet of the other side, if

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you will, and all of a sudden can access the

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entire the entire act the Akashak records, if you will,

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the entire knowledge base of the universe, and they like, oh,

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what's quantum physics. Oh, that's what quantum physics is. Oh,

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how do you what's free energy? Oh that's how you

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would have gotten free energy, like you know, this energy

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that that kind of thing. But to my understanding too,

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when they come back, they might bring, if they're lucky,

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snippets back, but this hardware cannot hold on to the

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mass amount. It's just like running you know, DOS, trying

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to run DOS on you know, or trying to run

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a new Mac today on doss of nineteen fifties, like,

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you know, whatever it is, you know that old programming.

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The hardware just can't handle it, which is frustrated, I

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can imagine. Now. You also said something in regards to reincarnation. Now,

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this is a very touchy subject for so many people

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in the world because I believe in a reincarnation. It's

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you know, I'm a recovering Catholic, so I always you know,

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reincarnation makes sense to me that this is the only

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one life. And you and if you're just lucky to

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be born a male in this country at this time

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with this kind of resources, or born as a female

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or the other and a poor It didn't make any

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sense to me. Oh, so you're born with one leg,

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bad luck, Like, I don't understand those things. But reincarnation

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made all the sense in the world to be as

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a logical thing. So how does how do near death

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experiences challenge contemporary religions and dogmas? And what experiences have

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you had with just I'm sure in your line of

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work you've been confronted at one point or another by

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somebody He's like, that doesn't make any sense. The Bible

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says this, or my book says that, or my God

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says this. How do these near death experiences challenge those

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ideas across all kinds of religions and dogmas?

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that test of the light

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is which religion is the best one or the right one?

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And and repeatedly people aren't told whatever religion fits for

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that person is there isn't one. So if it brings

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the person close to Source and closer to God, then

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but reincarnation, if it go back to being Source. And

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so here's how I explain it. If we could just

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imagine being this incredible intelligence and and I don't even

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know how big to save me, but just this entity

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that's amazing. And it's all alone in nothingness, with just

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blackness around, no sounds, no such nothing. And if that

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were the case, creation would happen in a second, you know,

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in a nanosecond, because the entity would not know that

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it was, or even if they did know it was,

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it wouldn't know anything about itself. So creation is to

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give back to source. That's what creation's for, and that's

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what we are. We are giving back, aren't the life

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that we live gives back to source? And so that's

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the most important, is the I'm sorry, I've blast treating

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my drain a bunch.

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, it's what we're here to do. Where I

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always used to I use the term God's algorithm. We're

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all little algorithms that go off and do their thing,

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grab information and bring it back to the creator of

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that album, which is a god or source. Does that

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make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, So all right, So let's

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get into life reviews because life reviews are very powerful,

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powerful things. Because when I first heard the first time

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of a life review, it shook it kind of shook

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me to the core. I have friends of mine who's like,

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I've been watching your show. I gotta get my acts.

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I gotta get my act together because I don't want

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to go through that life review and and and you know,

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it's it's almost a fear based thing, but it's not

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because we see it as oh god, I don't want

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to be judged. To my understanding, there is no judgment.

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There's absolutely no judgment on the other side. It's kind

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of like, this is what happened. So can you dive in,

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Please explain A life review is a general idea. Yes, sure,

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we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.

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And now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure that you're you've heard many times about

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life review and that you see your life from in detail.

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Some people see it in detail, some people just highlight

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and how we affect other people and how we Yeah,

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and that's the main point is it doesn't matter about

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our well they're you know, how famous we are or

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any of that. It's you know, it's how we affected

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the world and other people, and so that is the significance.

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But the life review, we don't there is no judgment

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kind of kind of because we judge ourselves, but we

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take the consequences of our actions by reliving the experience.

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We provide for others. That's so that is.

476
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: The powerful, powerful part of this whole thing is like

477
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,039
if I hurt you, I'm going to be back in

478
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:43,680
that scene. So like your consciousness flies back to that moment.

479
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,680
You're in a three basically in that moment in life,

480
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,480
and I'm saying something nasty to you, and I feel

481
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:52,440
what I feel what I'm doing it. But then I

482
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,400
feel what you feel. And that's the scary part for people.

483
00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:02,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as I said before forward one, so really

484
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:07,480
we are sourced judging ourselves. And that's why there's no

485
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:11,039
source from outside or there's no judgment for outside, because

486
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,359
we are source judging ourselves. And when we judge ourselves judgment,

487
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,039
you know, because people get upset with themselves sometimes and say,

488
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,200
oh God, why did I do that? Or you know,

489
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,160
I shouldn't have done that, and repeatedly they are told

490
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,720
it's okay, it's just a learning experience.

491
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,319
Speaker 1: Right, Well, it's the same thing. It's like getting upset

492
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:33,920
for like when you're first starting to walk and you

493
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,960
keep falling down. It's the equivalent of something like that,

494
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,880
because you're like, what are you gonna get yourself angry?

495
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,839
You barely know how to walk. So if you're doing

496
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,319
things in a life that's that's not right. It might

497
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,200
just be that you're just not able to walk yet

498
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,359
and you're making these mistakes and it's okay. It's part

499
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:56,079
of the process. And whatever we do to others is

500
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,200
part of their growing process as well.

501
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,039
Speaker 2: And what way, yes, and the echo and the echo

502
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:05,440
that keeps going down the line until it fades out.

503
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: So this concept of spirit guides, what is your experience

504
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:14,839
of spirit guides and angels in kind of like a

505
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,559
room of a council, room of elders if you will,

506
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:22,400
that are there during a life review sometimes or after

507
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,000
the life review or before the life review. That kind

508
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,640
of is explaining like your council of elders. From I

509
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,440
understand there's a council of elders, maybe there's a head

510
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:34,480
spirit guide that that guides you throughout your life and

511
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,359
you see them on the other side. What's your experience

512
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:37,599
with that?

513
00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: Okay? Keep in mind that we are one with those

514
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,000
spirit guides, We of course connected to them. And so

515
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:50,359
the spirit guide, I think all guides, I think are

516
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:57,200
because we immerse ourselves so completely into being human that

517
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,799
when we leave here, whether first your time there for

518
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:05,559
a long time. We need to have the guide to

519
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,440
help us. Just as we talked about earlier, we're too confused,

520
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,920
we don't know what's going on, and so we need

521
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,079
the guides. Is that what you're meaning.

522
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guys on the other side are there the

523
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,519
kind of overlook your journey, maybe push you, like nudge

524
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:23,159
you in the right direction of where you're supposed to

525
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:25,440
be going in life. But once you get to the

526
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,320
other side, you're like, Henry, oh, Henry, thank you so

527
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,599
much for helping me out. And they try and you're

528
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:35,320
still kind of this transitional period where you're being explained. Hey,

529
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,039
you're coming out of you're decompressing. That's the word I

530
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,519
wanted to use. You're decompressing from coming down from the

531
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:44,280
deep deep ocean. You need time to decompress as you

532
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,960
go up because if you get if you go too fast,

533
00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:48,199
you get the benz, you get the bends. So they're

534
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,119
there to help you. They're like the decompression system.

535
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 2: Okay. So another part of the guide is that they're

536
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:59,199
with us right now in this this lif life experience

537
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,920
that we're experiencing. The guides and so that is uh

538
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,400
because we because its source knows how difficult it is

539
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,599
for us to be separated like this, and and so

540
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,039
that that's why we had the guides to guide us

541
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:20,360
through it and help us if we can hear them.

542
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:24,519
Some people can't and some people.

543
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: Can now the and this is another part of the guys,

544
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:32,920
which is to my understanding, the guides are there to

545
00:35:33,039 --> 00:35:37,719
guide you through the sole plan that you laid out

546
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:40,800
before you left the other side to come down here.

547
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:43,199
So when you come down here, you are going down

548
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,400
a road that you have pre set, like I'm going

549
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,960
to meet this person, I'm going to have this job,

550
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,760
I'm going to live in this area, big giant landmarks.

551
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,679
If you will journey, can you get driving a little

552
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:54,119
deeper to that?

553
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah sure. Before we come into this life, experience

554
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,440
our souls. The soul that says okay, I'm going to be.

555
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,920
A person chooses a task that they want to accomplish

556
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:15,119
in this life, and then with that task, they choose

557
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,119
all the elements within their lives that will help them

558
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,000
to guide them towards that task. And so they will

559
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:29,000
choose significant people, not everybody they ever meet, but the

560
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:31,239
main people that are going to be in their lives

561
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,119
that will guide them more or that the interaction will

562
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:39,000
be significant to guide them in the right direction. Then

563
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:44,679
there's the events in our lives, whether you know, and

564
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,960
not every again, not every event, but the major events,

565
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:52,480
and that will help us to lead us in certain directions.

566
00:36:52,800 --> 00:37:03,039
And then there's ourselves. We choose everything about ourselves, the color,

567
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:09,239
the nationality, the country, the yeah, yeah, yeah, every single

568
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,199
thing that is going to be significant. It would be

569
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,880
our baby toemail if it was significant, you know, to

570
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,760
go hiding us. However, there is a creep out on

571
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:30,039
that because sometimes we don't get to do whatever it

572
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:33,840
is that we came here to do for various reasons.

573
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:41,039
Because not everything is meant to be. And I don't

574
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:44,400
like this statement of everything is meant to be because

575
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:50,840
it's not. Some things are meant to be, but some

576
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,880
things that are meant to be don't happen. The person

577
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,639
that we are going to be interacting with leaves this

578
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:05,440
for before we get to that, or some accident happens

579
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,920
and changes things, or we just goof off and say

580
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,760
I don't want to and we're just going to be,

581
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:17,760
you know, And so everything isn't written in stone, and

582
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,079
because there is no time at the spirit level, it

583
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:25,199
doesn't matter how long it takes us. We can have

584
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,320
biplans if we want to accomplish our tasks. The point

585
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,800
is that we are going to accomplish that task. Whether

586
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,960
it's fib or whether it's one, it doesn't.

587
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: Matter, right. And so in other words, you lay out

588
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,280
a soul plan, and that's exactly what it is, a plan.

589
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,559
And as we all know, plans don't always go according

590
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,440
to plan because there's a lot of variables along the way.

591
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,159
And it's really truly because of this pesky little thing

592
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:58,559
called free will that allows us to, Hey, you know what,

593
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:00,960
I know, I'm supposed to be an astronaut, but I

594
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:04,000
really want to be a football player, and you know,

595
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,880
I'm just gonna go down that and oh I got injured.

596
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,320
Oh I can't now be an astronaut. Oh and then

597
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,039
it just throws your whole life out of way. It

598
00:39:11,079 --> 00:39:13,199
can't happen. And from what I understand, the guides are

599
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:16,719
there to kind of push it, because if you go

600
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,679
far off your soul plan, things become a lot more difficult.

601
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,559
You're not as happy, You're not because it's not connecting

602
00:39:24,639 --> 00:39:28,920
to the soul. You know, I was. I to my

603
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:31,840
understanding from what I was being told. I walked a

604
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,440
parallel path with this plath that I'm on right now,

605
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,280
which assisted in this path. But until the roads met,

606
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,239
I was on a parallel path with this and I

607
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,119
was like, oh that because I always wondered, like why

608
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:48,159
am I in this path? You know, I loved it.

609
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:50,400
It was great, but it really never brought me. I

610
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,760
had moments of happiness, but it never felt me. I

611
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,519
was never fulfilled in this brand way. But the second

612
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:59,239
I jumped onto this path, I was like, oh, this

613
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,320
is what this feans. Is like it's oh, we'll be

614
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:10,599
right back after a word from our sponsor and now

615
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:15,079
back to the show. And it needed time, by the way,

616
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,960
you know, twenty years ago this path wouldn't have worked

617
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,239
because the world wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. Uh people,

618
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,519
you know it was. It was a very interesting thing.

619
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,239
Now on the next stage after the life review, what

620
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,559
have you come across, Like, what are the variable things?

621
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:33,920
Because we're talking about near death experience. It means it's

622
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,760
near death, so we're not gonna we have no idea

623
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,599
what happens after a certain point. What are some other

624
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:41,920
experiences some of the most that stuck out to you

625
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:44,079
or are there any other common things that I haven't

626
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:47,039
mentioned that you found in many near death experiences?

627
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:54,519
Speaker 2: Yes, I think I think thought consciousness are We really

628
00:40:54,679 --> 00:41:01,440
don't recognize how significant our thoughts are, and that that

629
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:07,440
really is a major thing. Because we are thought, we

630
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,320
are consciousness. That is how we're being created through thought,

631
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,599
and so what we think about what is powerful, really powerful,

632
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,440
and we really need to know that and to understand

633
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,559
that and to guide our thinking in a more positive

634
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:30,199
direction to be more than that we can be.

635
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: You know, now in your from your research, have you

636
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:40,079
found that many of many near death experiencers get to

637
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:43,800
a point of no return, Like there is a place

638
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,960
where they cannot cross, There's like a doorway, there is

639
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:51,599
a river, that kind of thing. Can you dive into

640
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:52,159
that a little bit?

641
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are experiences that they get to this point

642
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:03,360
and they're not allowed and that that's fine, But there

643
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:08,519
are others who don't get that point. They can go anywhere.

644
00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:13,800
So it's a little confusing sometimes why some not the others?

645
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:18,519
Why are some people not given a choice and shot

646
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:22,119
back into their bodies sometimes and they're praying not to

647
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:27,039
come back, and other people are are given a choice. Well,

648
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:28,360
do you want to stare or do you want to go?

649
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,679
You know? So it's it doesn't seem to be written

650
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,039
in stone.

651
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: The other thing I've heard is that your death experiences

652
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:47,480
happened to people because of multiple, multiple reasons, Whereas in

653
00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:50,840
the Soul Plan they laid out exit points in the

654
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,480
life if things aren't going the way they wanted to.

655
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,000
I'd love to hear your thoughts. Like, so we lay

656
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,920
out the map, You're like, you know what, at thirty five,

657
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,320
if I haven't hit something, let me let me out

658
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,559
real quick and I'll let you know if I want

659
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:04,119
to keep going or I'll just start again. And then

660
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:06,639
oh maybe you know, at seventy there's another exit point

661
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,079
and you can decide at that point when you want.

662
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:12,719
So that's one reason. Another reason is you've gone so

663
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,679
far off the path that your spirit guys have been

664
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,920
yelling at you and you can't hear you. I can't

665
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,280
hear it, so they go we if we don't do something,

666
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:23,639
he or she is gonna go. It's gonna be a

667
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:26,639
wasted life. So we gotta shake the heck out of

668
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:29,920
them and hit them with a car essentially and knock

669
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,519
some sense at least knock them into sense. Is that

670
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:33,760
is that what you found as well?

671
00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:40,159
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, that that happens for sure. And but yeah,

672
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,719
that makes sense for why people are sent back or

673
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,599
not those too, you know, if they are off on

674
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:48,639
the wrong track, then you know, do it again.

675
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,639
Speaker 1: And you said that in regards to reincarnation, that you

676
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,800
said that you get to see lives that you have lived.

677
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:01,199
I've understood that you could see not only lives that

678
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,320
you have lived, but lives that you are going to

679
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,800
live as well. And then if you really want to

680
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,840
get metaphysical or not metaphysical, quantum quantum me quantum physics

681
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,719
aspect of it is that there is technically no past life.

682
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,360
There's technically no future lives. All lives are happening at

683
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,480
the same time because there is no time on the

684
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,639
other side, and we have our soul is fractals into

685
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:28,039
all the So right now, you and I are in Rome,

686
00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:32,320
in ancient Rome, are in ancient Atlantis, in ancient Egypt,

687
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,199
having multiple experiences, and yet they kind of ripple. So

688
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,639
things you learn in one ripples to this life. And

689
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,199
like I was going to learn this lesson, but I

690
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,880
just learned it over in Egypt. Does that make any sense?

691
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,079
Can you explain it to people?

692
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: Well, no, I can't because it's confusing. But it is

693
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,039
true that even though there is no time in everything

694
00:44:55,079 --> 00:45:00,639
does happen at the same time or simultaneously we learn,

695
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,599
So that's a progression thing. Another thing is that people

696
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:11,000
when they're talking about their death experiences or near death experiences,

697
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,559
well we'll talk about that this happened, and then this happened,

698
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,800
and that's a sequence kind of thing, and yet there's

699
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,519
no time over there. So some end of years will say, well,

700
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,400
I explained that way, because how else can I explain

701
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,239
it to you? You know, it all happened at once,

702
00:45:33,599 --> 00:45:36,199
but this is the way I can make it sense

703
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:36,599
for you.

704
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: So when they and you, you kind of touched upon

705
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,760
this that many times you have a choice on the

706
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,000
other side, Hey, do you want to go back? I

707
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:49,920
understand when you go to the other side, it's so beautiful,

708
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,880
it's so blissful. The love is everywhere. It's something that

709
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,639
you can't comprehend. Why would you want to come back

710
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:58,840
to this? This is tough, this is heavy. It's like

711
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,360
wearing a you know, five hundred pound suit on you

712
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,840
all the time. Many of them say no, no, no, no, no,

713
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,039
I don't you kidding. I'm not going back to that place.

714
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,280
And they're either forced back, meaning like no, it's not

715
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,079
your time. But many times they're like, it's your choice.

716
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,119
And a lot of times they look back and go, oh,

717
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,480
I can't leave my kids. Oh I can't leave my wife.

718
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,800
I can't leave my family. They're going to hurt too much,

719
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,480
and that's what brings them back. What's your experience.

720
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a family and I would say the majority

721
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,760
of the people eighty don't want to come back. There

722
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,760
are people who say, oh, I need to go back

723
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,599
because I'm not you know, my children are my job.

724
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,000
Some some make some reasons they have to come back

725
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:52,440
for and but but most people don't want to come back,

726
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,760
and they fight. They absolutely get into temperate tant rooms

727
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,920
and you know, yep, and there's their body.

728
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: They're like like children, like no, I don't want to

729
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,199
go back. No I don't want to eat my vegetables.

730
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,679
I do not want to eat my vegetables. No I don't.

731
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,280
And they because the second you get slammed back, it's

732
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:15,360
you know, depending on what situation you are in, it

733
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,400
can be pretty pretty rough. They do like you say

734
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,840
they do. They do learn a bunch of things. They

735
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,599
do understand things there. The way communication is on the

736
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:31,440
other side is nonverbal. It's telepathic, but it's interestant. It's

737
00:47:31,519 --> 00:47:37,800
instant telepathic, so you you understand everything that's happening in

738
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,719
the scenario that you're in instantly. So it's like downloading

739
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,800
an entire movie in a second and just go oh

740
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:45,599
got it.

741
00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Yeah. Is that it just like that? Yeah,

742
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:55,440
there's just everything goes boom and all the questions that

743
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,719
they ever thought of asking or are answered instantly. It

744
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,760
is amazing. Yeah.

745
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when these near death experiences come back in

746
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:10,079
your research, have you what have you found in regards

747
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:15,400
to their psychological profile in the sense of not only

748
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,800
dealing with this experience in the real world. So you

749
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,360
have this amazing mystical experience, you get thrown back down

750
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,960
to this heavy, dense, three dimensional world that we're in.

751
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:30,880
And and yet they a lot of them, I've heard,

752
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,880
don't talk about it for twenty years. Many of them

753
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,960
just have a problem. You're just dealing with it. What's

754
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,840
your experience of because some of them are like, welloo,

755
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,559
I'm ready, I got my mission, I'm ready to go

756
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,599
and it doesn't bother them. So again it's case by case.

757
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:50,039
But what's your experience with your research?

758
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:56,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that I would maybe have are

759
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,599
retiscent to talk about it because they're told they might

760
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,159
mention it to somebody and be told either don't tell

761
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:07,480
anybody because they're going to think you're crazy, or they

762
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,519
get told, oh, that was just an illucination, or you know,

763
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:14,559
it is the drugs that we gave you, or something

764
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:17,840
like that. So, yes, they do. They don't like to

765
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:23,559
be told deaf, that's true. But I wanted to mention

766
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:30,760
people who've had death experiences that are hour like they

767
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,039
wake up in the more in a state of riga

768
00:49:34,119 --> 00:49:37,880
mortis and they've been dead for thirteen fourteen hours.

769
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,199
Speaker 1: Really you've heard of those.

770
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,119
Speaker 2: Yes, I, and I have some in my book.

771
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:46,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, really because I've heard, I mean I've heard

772
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:50,000
hour and a half, two hours even that they've been

773
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:52,480
they were gone, they should have been brain dead, multiple

774
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:55,239
stories of brain dead, and there's no possible way they

775
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,719
can come back. You have thirteen or fourteen hours in

776
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:05,000
the morgue. Just wake poor guy, poor poor maintenance guy

777
00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:05,880
in the room.

778
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:11,639
Speaker 3: But that's exactly But but they they can't move, they

779
00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:13,840
can't let anybody know that they're back.

780
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:20,039
Speaker 2: And so various ways they get that message across, usually

781
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,840
with their eyes. They you know, can move their eyes,

782
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,079
but they can't move their body, and so they'll look

783
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,840
at the maintenance guy and then he'll notice, oh, yeah,

784
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,679
there's they're looking at me, and so things like that.

785
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,320
One one one moment was being identified by her brother

786
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,760
in law and.

787
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

788
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,199
and now back to the show.

789
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,679
Speaker 2: And so he noticed that their tears coming, and so

790
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,320
he said, do get people cry, And that's when they

791
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,760
realized this woman was back, but she was frozen. She

792
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:02,920
couldn't couldn't move.

793
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: So how do you come back from it though? Physically?

794
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,639
How do you come back from it physically? Like if

795
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:07,519
your rigamotives.

796
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: One girl said that it was very, very painful because

797
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:17,119
the blood had you know, whatever it's called. I've forgotten

798
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:23,960
the name, but yeah, yeah, yeah, and so and so

799
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,920
she had to force her blood to start moving again

800
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,800
through her body and that was, she said, with the

801
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:35,599
most painful things she'd ever had to do. Yeah, I

802
00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:41,960
have one man and this is recorded twenty nine hours

803
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:47,559
he was still going twenty nine hours. Yeah, it's in

804
00:51:47,559 --> 00:51:48,039
my book.

805
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,519
Speaker 1: How do you explain? How do you like? How does

806
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,320
how does a doctor explain that? Like? How how does

807
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,559
how does science explain? Twenty nine hours?

808
00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 2: I want to know that too, That's the one. Those

809
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,960
are the ones, the long, long term experiences, and the

810
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,280
ones that don't happen in a hospital are the ones

811
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,320
that I would like to see more studies done, because

812
00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:16,159
when a person dies in a hospital, the hospital is

813
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:19,719
probably the worst place in the world to find out

814
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,639
if death experience is a death experience, or whether it's

815
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:27,519
a near death experience, and whether it's legitimate or because

816
00:52:27,559 --> 00:52:32,039
when a person dies at a hospital, within minutes they're resuscitated,

817
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,000
so that's too soon to know whether it's real or not,

818
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,639
or drugs or the brain breaking. So I want I

819
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:48,079
want more experience, more research than on those long term ones.

820
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:54,039
And once they're that die out or are almost yet

821
00:52:55,159 --> 00:53:00,880
are away from the hospital where there's no immediate help,

822
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,519
those are the ones I wanted to see more work on.

823
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 1: And these and these long term deaths that came back. Uh,

824
00:53:09,679 --> 00:53:12,880
they kept living a normal life after they got their

825
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,880
body started again.

826
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:20,079
Speaker 2: Yes, yes they did. Yes, once they were thought, if

827
00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:23,920
I can call it that, Yeah, once they were able

828
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,280
to move and so but instantly they're up in the

829
00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:30,639
you know, as soon as somebody sees that their lives

830
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,280
and bang. You know. One fellow was dead for three days.

831
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:44,639
George Rod notice rodden and I can't, it's rodden. But

832
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:47,840
and then it ends for THEI and he was a

833
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,400
Russian man who got hit by a car and they

834
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,960
put him in the mark because he was dead, and

835
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,559
they left him there for three days. And he came

836
00:53:56,639 --> 00:53:59,920
back when they started to do an optopsy and they

837
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:01,840
were just cutting into the MENY.

838
00:54:03,559 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: Woke up. Oh my god, can you imagine the poor

839
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:11,280
oh my god, no mortician, that poor guy or gal

840
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,559
who was doing that. I mean, that's their worst nightmare.

841
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,079
That's the worst night. I'm sure that it's literally their

842
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:22,159
worst night. So from all these years that you've been

843
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:25,719
studying these these NDEs, what in what ways do you

844
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,679
see NDEs influencing modern spirituality?

845
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: Oh? I see it everywhere. I love it. I can

846
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,280
see that that NDEs are just making such a change

847
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,920
in the world. And and that's fabulous. That is absolutely marvelous.

848
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,800
People who tell their tell about their experience. People are

849
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,760
more aware of runness, They're more aware of their conscious thought,

850
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,880
They're more aware of that there is something beyond. You know,

851
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,679
there's a lot of really beautiful things.

852
00:55:03,639 --> 00:55:08,159
Speaker 1: Now, what what are lessons that we can learn from

853
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,519
NDEs that we can integrate into our daily lives.

854
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 2: Well, my message is that you are magnificent and you

855
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,480
don't know it, and you really really really need to

856
00:55:21,679 --> 00:55:26,920
believe that because you can accomplish so much more than

857
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,519
you ever thought you could. We just put ourselves down.

858
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,559
You know, I used to be a family counselor for

859
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:38,960
thirty years and in my work, I was absolutely astonished

860
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,199
at how many people hate, not dislike themselves, hated themselves.

861
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,199
They were absolutely hated themselves and because they didn't live

862
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,000
up to some image that had been put for before them.

863
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:58,079
And there that is almost criminal because in reality they

864
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:00,559
are magnificent. Everyone.

865
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: What part does forgiveness play in the transformative power of

866
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,000
NDEs Because forgiveness is something that really can liberate a

867
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:10,639
human beings.

868
00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you know they get even if you have

869
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:19,280
a big problem, no matter what your loved ones. Just

870
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:25,239
to tell your audience that all issues are forgiven. It

871
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,239
doesn't matter if you had an issue with that person

872
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:32,559
before that person died, and you have it on your

873
00:56:32,599 --> 00:56:36,000
conscious that, oh god, they don't. I wasn't able to

874
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,719
talk to them or work it out. It's okay. And

875
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:43,159
their point of view, they love you more than more

876
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:48,880
than you can ever imagine, and they've completely forgiven. Forgiveness

877
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:49,480
is a big one.

878
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:54,559
Speaker 1: Yet. Now, how do in the ears describe their connection

879
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,800
with this higher consciousness, with this divine presence? What is

880
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,119
the what is the language that they've used in your

881
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:05,920
research of how they connect with this consciousness with source

882
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,840
if you will, or is it just something that.

883
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,679
Speaker 2: Most of them will say that they felt that they

884
00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:13,960
were a part of this source or a part of

885
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,880
this But I would say that that is probably about

886
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:23,760
thirty twenty thirty percent. The rest of the people just

887
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,480
see the light up there and it's it's out there,

888
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:30,480
it's very beautiful. They relate to it, but that's as

889
00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:34,360
far as it goes. But those who actually connect with

890
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,800
the light and talk to the light and experienced the

891
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:43,119
light recognize that they are connected somehow with that light.

892
00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: Now, I have to ask you this question because I've

893
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,480
heard these stories and i'd love to hear if you've

894
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,239
heard it in your research. You know, right now, we

895
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,840
as human beings believe, many of us, believe that this

896
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,360
is it. This is the only planet in the universe

897
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,679
that has human that has any sort of life or

898
00:57:59,719 --> 00:58:05,079
any sort of experience those science has proven that. Chances

899
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:08,920
are there's other Earth like planet, actually billions of Earth

900
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:13,199
like planets in the in the seeable future seeable universe,

901
00:58:13,239 --> 00:58:16,280
let alone the unseeable universe. It's so massive and grand.

902
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,320
Have you ever heard of any NDE experiences that talk

903
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:26,639
about other planetary experiences, other kind of bodies or other

904
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,920
kind of species of experiences. It's not just human.

905
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:36,079
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, there are are people who talk about that.

906
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:40,239
I don't put that in my book, but but there

907
00:58:40,239 --> 00:58:45,920
are people who do feel that they're connected the way

908
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,000
to smart Sorry sorry, but if.

909
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: There was other, if there was so, the question is

910
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,800
if there was other in the near death experiences that

911
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,320
they see themselves or have been in past line in

912
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,719
other experiences, other planets, other kind of besides just human.

913
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And some people will will ask take me

914
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,199
to a planet, another planet where there's life, you know,

915
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,480
in the in this universe, and they will take me

916
00:59:18,599 --> 00:59:22,840
taken there. Okay, here you are and then they will

917
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,679
also be taken. One person I remember asked to take

918
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:30,840
me to the most events, and he went to this

919
00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:38,440
place where they didn't communicate this verbally, they telepathic and

920
00:59:38,519 --> 00:59:43,840
they were they were almost surreal. They were, you know,

921
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:49,440
this this life form but but almost like ghost almost

922
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,920
but the other Then they asked to go to one

923
00:59:54,960 --> 01:00:00,880
of the least evolved planets, and they it to something

924
01:00:01,039 --> 01:00:04,559
like you know, cave man kind of thing or very

925
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:06,280
primitive life forms.

926
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: Really, that's fat, that's fascinating. I mean, just to go

927
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:16,679
down those roads, it's pretty fascinating. We'll be right back

928
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:22,760
after a word from our sponsor, and now back to

929
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:23,159
the show.

930
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,079
Speaker 2: God, I was just going to say, if you're interested,

931
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:36,920
you can probably go to nd r n d e

932
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:42,599
r F Near Death Experience Research Foundation and they have

933
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:48,639
a search engine that you can probably find that information

934
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,559
other planets. Maybe just be you know, and ease on

935
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,519
other planets or other life forms.

936
01:00:57,039 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: That would be amazing. Thank you so much for that,

937
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,559
for that the basic of information. Now I do have

938
01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:04,559
to ask you, are you afraid of dying anymore?

939
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: Not anymore? No, I used to be, but no, I

940
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,559
needy six now so I've got I better not be,

941
01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:17,239
because I've got a lot of stuff. I don't have

942
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:21,840
one put in the grape though. I'm doing very well

943
01:01:22,159 --> 01:01:25,400
for my age, and I know i'm unless I get

944
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,480
into an accident, I'll be in my nineties for by

945
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,400
the time I leave this world. But yeah, I just

946
01:01:32,519 --> 01:01:35,559
love life too much. I'm enjoying myself too much, and

947
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:39,000
I have too much more to do and to say,

948
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to write about it. You tell people, so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if there's someone watching right now who is either

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afraid of dying or in the process of dying, because

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a lot of people who watch these kinds of shows

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want to learn about the other side because they're either

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close because of a prognosis, or they had a loved

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one who just who's about to go or has just gone.

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What what message do you have for these people watching?

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the messages is to know that your

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loved one is very aware of you and what's happening

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in your life. Because I repeatedly hear people say I

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wish so and so I've been here for this credit

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or this graduation, or for this order or whatever, and

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they are, They're there, They hear it, they see it,

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they know what's going on. They know, they connect with

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us very intimately, so that's that's not a big deal.

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So don't don't feel that they haven't been there, because

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they have. And as I said before, all issues are gone.

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They don't exist. They're just a myth. Death is a

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beautiful experience. And it's like going home. That's whatever. Everybody says,

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I want to go home, Like once they've been there

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and they want to go back, they say that they

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want to go back home. So to them, that's home.

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And and so it's like a rest period in between lives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what is your definition of living a fulfilled life? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I fulfilled life?

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 2: We are not here to suffer two to have all

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the anks that we have in this world. We're not

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here for that. We are here to experience, to be,

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to exist, to get in there and just be as

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much as we can be in our particular field, whatever

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that is. And so that's that's our reality is to

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get in there, and that's what we're here for, is

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to enjoy. If we're here to be, there's a there's

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a wonderful experience that that I love. And her name

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this hat for haf you are and you can find

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her by going googling her name, ajaf you are Nde,

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and she was just an ordinary housewife. She had no

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interest in this whole spiritual business at all, and she

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had such a profound death experience and came back with

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such magnificent lessons and understanding that she spells out in

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very clear language, and most of it is the beauty,

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And she says repeatedly, I wasn't supposed to be suffering

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like I am, or like I was. I was here

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to have fun. I was here to enjoy life and

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be And so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, if you had a chance to go back

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in time and speak to little Lynn, what advice would

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you give her?

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Speaker 2: You little Lynn?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, little Lin. It was my childhood and

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my earlier years were really quite rough, and so I've

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had a very difficult time, and I was assessed as

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mentally slow and put into special classes for kids that

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are mentally slow, and being mentally slow, everybody made my

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decisions for me. But the other thing that happened with

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that was that abuse. Because you know, I don't count

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as much, and so that was my childhood experience. And

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if I could go back and talk to that woman

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or that child, I would tell her to have faith

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to know that everything is going to be beautiful in

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the end.

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Speaker 1: That's a great message. How do you define God or Source?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Just well, I think that God love is they

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love that we feel is our reconnection to the power

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or the essence of our being, which is love. I

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think God's essence is love and that love is the

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power that it creates width, so that would be one thing,

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but also consciousness. So I see God as a positive

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creative force. I don't see God as a person or

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a being or any as a matter of fact, to

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be honest, I don't even think there's a light. I

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think people see light because we need something to relate to.

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But I think in reality, source or the positive energy

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doesn't have anything. It's just a being. What is intelligence?

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What love is the essence of our being. Love is

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the essence of who we are. We are we are

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created in love and we are love. And so my

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moto when a dip at the bottom of my when

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I send things out, is to be the love that

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we are, because that's that's our reality.

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Speaker 1: What is the ultimate purpose of life?

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Speaker 2: Oh, alternate purpose of giving back to source, to being,

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to helping Source to be, to experience and know itself.

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Speaker 1: And where can people find out more about your your

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book and all the amazing work you're doing in the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, my book is Beyond NDEs, the Next Step in

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Near Death Experience Research. And you can find me on Facebook,

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on LinkedIn and and and I have a YouTube channel,

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lynn Lynn K Russell channel, and my name Lynn K.

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You have to put the K in there or else

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you never find me because there's a bazillion Lynn Russell's

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in the world. And so Lenny K Russell, just google

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my name and you'll find me. And I also have

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a website, and I have a contact on my website,

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so you can find me there.

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Speaker 1: As well, and that would be a Russell dot com.

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Speaker 2: Lynk Russell dot com.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, perfect, And do you have any parting messages

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for the audience?

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Speaker 2: Just what I've already said that believe in yourself, trust yourself,

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know that you are much much more than you think

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you are, and that you can do way more than

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you think you can do. That's my big message.

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Speaker 1: Lynn. It has been such a pleasure and honor speaking

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to you today. It's been refreshing and wonderful. And I

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learned a bunch of stuff in this conversation, and I

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appreciate you and everything you're doing to awaken the planet.

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So thank you again, my.

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Speaker 2: Dear, thank you, thank you. I appreciate being here. I've

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enjoyed chatting with you great questions.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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