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Speaker 2: I am your host, Charles Tyson.
Speaker 1: Junior, and I'm your host Martha Madrigal. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Full Circle Table.
Speaker 2: You warn me before I recorded that it was going
Speaker 2: to be a long intro, but I think that was
Speaker 2: the exact right length.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you the news man.
Speaker 2: Wait, well, hold on.
Speaker 1: Hi baby, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, except for the fascism, everything's great.
Speaker 1: Hey, It's a wonderful time to be alive, except for
Speaker 1: the fashion. Gothy keeps saying that because I bless America.
Speaker 1: Except for the fashion, it keeps being true. It does
Speaker 1: keep being true. I mean, you know, it's been quite
Speaker 1: a week. It's actually only been a week, I know,
Speaker 1: and we're trying to get back on schedule. So much
Speaker 1: to talk about, so much happening, and that is by design. People.
Speaker 1: They want us exhausted and distracted. Yeah I don't. Well,
Speaker 1: yes I'm distracted. I'm the distraction. Hi.
Speaker 2: And you know what you said, fascist made me think
Speaker 2: about James Baldwin famously said that black folks are used
Speaker 2: to living in a fascist state because Jim Crow South,
Speaker 2: because slavery. Like that, We're used to this shit. Everyone
Speaker 2: else thinks of fascism as being something that happens across the.
Speaker 1: Ocean, right. You know, I noticed, I have noticed I
Speaker 1: have a different view than many of my skin folk
Speaker 1: of all this, you know. And part of it is you.
Speaker 1: Part of it is You're welcome, is slash, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's being trans you know. Part of it is just
Speaker 1: the people that I talk to all the time, whose
Speaker 1: views I at least here and understand, whether I you know,
Speaker 1: we certainly all have very different stories. But for many
Speaker 1: people this shit doesn't even feel new yet for real
Speaker 1: though it feels new to the people who have never
Speaker 1: been treated this way, if you know that does And
Speaker 1: I keep hoping that you know, maybe it's maybe it's good,
Speaker 1: maybe it isn't, but but you know that this last
Speaker 1: death was it, even the last one it's been a week,
Speaker 1: was the fire hose moment, right, you know? I just
Speaker 1: I keep hoping like enough Americans will be horrified that,
Speaker 1: you know, changers.
Speaker 2: Crossed because the conversation is happening.
Speaker 1: It's happening more and more mega folks are relinquishing some
Speaker 1: of their idolatry, you know, but the common section is
Speaker 1: still full of bots or what have you making the argument.
Speaker 1: And today it was all I could do to choke back.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute. You are the party of small government.
Speaker 1: You are the party who has talked about states rights
Speaker 1: mmmm and federal government overreached, and now you have completely
Speaker 1: followed the talking points of these chuckleheads, and you're you're
Speaker 1: sitting here telling us about, you know how federal law
Speaker 1: Trump's everything. What the fuck? Doude? Critical thinking? I know
Speaker 1: is not their strong suit. But never, like never, don't
Speaker 1: you stop at some point and say, I'm not even
Speaker 1: being consistent with myself all of the values I was
Speaker 1: raised with and if you were raised as a Republican, whatever,
Speaker 1: but there were values there were certain things that made
Speaker 1: sense within that party that are not a part of
Speaker 1: the argument you're making right now. Correct. In fact, they
Speaker 1: couldn't be further from it. And if this was a
Speaker 1: Democrat in the White House and we had the roving
Speaker 1: band of thugs, shit, shit, and you know what else
Speaker 1: I find ironic, And then we really will get to
Speaker 1: the show. These Second Amendment chuckleheads who have been, you know,
Speaker 1: stockpiling weapons for when the government does exactly what they're
Speaker 1: doing right now in the streets. You were going to
Speaker 1: be prepared. You never allowed for the part where you
Speaker 1: agree with them. We did. That's the difference.
Speaker 2: Hi, Can I just make a comment? Sure for a second,
Speaker 2: you with the fire in your eyes and the fierce
Speaker 2: little leopard satin robe. It's kind of hot. I'm digging it.
Speaker 1: It's actually a draft print, but thank you, Giraffe prens.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I'm a money part.
Speaker 1: I have multiple animal prints.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it is a Sunday morning, January eighteenth. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I love this. It's my it's my hosphal, it's my
Speaker 1: you know, I love it. Have a cute little black number. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Just lounging, just lounging, it.
Speaker 2: Was the flowing of it all, as you're like. And
Speaker 2: another thing, I.
Speaker 1: Talk with my hands. I love well things. Okay, yeah
Speaker 1: it I am astounded, and I like, I do my best.
Speaker 1: I stay out of the comment sections in that I
Speaker 1: very rarely ever comment. But I'll just read a few
Speaker 1: just to see what we're doing with take the temperature,
Speaker 1: just to see because it doesn't take many to see
Speaker 1: what the laughing bots do? You know? And watching these chucklehead,
Speaker 1: these idiot men who you know moments ago, how we're
Speaker 1: singing a different tune and now it's all okay, right.
Speaker 2: Chucklehead is the new asshat?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well I I it's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot,
Speaker 1: and you know some of it really, you know, irony
Speaker 1: is dead. It's incredible. So you you, I know, how
Speaker 1: to conversation? Are we going to get to that? We're
Speaker 1: gonna lead with that? What do you want to do?
Speaker 1: I know you recently had a very interesting conversation I did,
Speaker 1: and that's relevant right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I am fortunate enough to be privy to occasional
Speaker 2: conversations with several members of the black media, and in
Speaker 2: this most recent conversation, we were talking about how, yes,
Speaker 2: it's a good thing that we are having the conversations
Speaker 2: that we have been having about the murder of Renee Good. Yes,
Speaker 2: but this same energy was not given when Keith Porter
Speaker 2: was murdered just two weeks before, right on on on
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, and so a week before right and
Speaker 2: you know, I was having that same conversation with you
Speaker 2: as we were editing last week's episode, because yeah, we
Speaker 2: made no mention.
Speaker 1: We didn't, right, it didn't get the press. It should happen, right,
Speaker 1: You actually had a conversation with the family member. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and what was the takeaway? What was your takeaway?
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even want to name the member,
Speaker 1: It's just what was your takeaway from that conversation?
Speaker 2: The takeover? I mean, it was business as usual. The
Speaker 2: story that went out is in direct conflict with the
Speaker 2: eyewitness accounts of not just Keith Porter's family, but other
Speaker 2: residents of the of the the neighborhood, like, for instance,
Speaker 2: the off duty agent Ice agent was saying how Keith
Speaker 2: had fired on him when his gun at him, when
Speaker 2: actually what happened was Keith went outside to celebrate as
Speaker 2: many others.
Speaker 1: Had done before him, and shut the gun in the
Speaker 1: air by.
Speaker 2: Shooting his AR fifteen in the air, and that was it.
Speaker 2: He was on his way back into the house when
Speaker 2: his neighbor, the off duty ICE agent, after having gone
Speaker 2: inside and put on putting on his tactical gear, came
Speaker 2: outside and threatened him and shot him dead.
Speaker 1: And we go put my suit on, right, because black
Speaker 1: people aren't supposed to have automatic weapons, right. They didn't
Speaker 1: mean that.
Speaker 2: And the biggest the one point that stuck out to
Speaker 2: me was the family member was saying how the Ice
Speaker 2: agent reported that Keith fired three shots at him, and
Speaker 2: that someone was saying how three shots were heard? And
Speaker 2: she was like, it was an AR fifteen. You can't
Speaker 2: fire three shots, right, which is an automatic weapon. Ye,
Speaker 2: so even if you pulled the trigger once, it's going
Speaker 2: to be more than three shots.
Speaker 1: Which arguably should not have existed in the first place.
Speaker 1: But you know what it did, right, it did. And
Speaker 1: the people who you know who would defend the Ice
Speaker 1: agent are the ones who defend you know, citizens being
Speaker 1: able to be so armed. Right, But you only met
Speaker 1: white people probably, right, Oh of course, yeah, along with
Speaker 1: your friendly So it was a neighbor white, yes.
Speaker 2: And it has recently come out that the agent is
Speaker 2: facing allegations of abuse and hateful marks, according to a
Speaker 2: new La Times report, and given the new allegations, the
Speaker 2: family of Keith Porter and their attorney believe that this
Speaker 2: could qualify as a hate crime or a race related well,
Speaker 2: even though we knew that before, right.
Speaker 1: Now, because there's a history here and the La Times
Speaker 1: is reporting on it right good.
Speaker 2: So I just wanted to make sure that in this
Speaker 2: episode we made a point of mentioning Keith Porter Jr.
Speaker 2: And the fact that his death was just as significant
Speaker 2: and wasn't getting the talk and the press that it should.
Speaker 1: Hap. I'm gonna say this because of the weapon. Because
Speaker 1: of the weapon, it's not as clear cut as Renee Gold.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying. It's not as clean
Speaker 1: and served up to you in a palatable manner. And
Speaker 1: I framed this that way in honor of Cludek Colvin died.
Speaker 2: This is true.
Speaker 1: Claudet Colvin refused to give up her seat on.
Speaker 2: The bus a before before Rosa Parks, before Rosa Parks,
Speaker 2: but she was not.
Speaker 1: We won't talk about Polly Murray, who did it well
Speaker 1: before both of them, but right, but klauttk Calvin did
Speaker 1: it first.
Speaker 2: But she was not as palatable for the movie.
Speaker 1: She had darker skin, and she was pregnant out of
Speaker 1: wedlock if I were a teenager and a teenager, so
Speaker 1: she was not the face, right, And so they sent
Speaker 1: out Rosa who was more palatable right for the movement.
Speaker 1: And you know, we all do that when we're trying
Speaker 1: to make a point. And I'm just you know, it's
Speaker 1: what disgusts me about politics so often. It's like everybody
Speaker 1: does the same bullshit to make their point.
Speaker 2: It's that word.
Speaker 1: Optics, optics. The optics were different, you know, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean But I don't care if chuckleheads in Alabama
Speaker 1: don't get dead because they shot an a fifteen, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, then this never should have happened,
Speaker 1: should have right, you know. And if one of them says, well,
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to have that kind of gun, who's
Speaker 1: you one now? Right, come one now? And that's what
Speaker 1: I mean, the hypocrisy. You know, these people have lost
Speaker 1: their fucking minds, right, and and words mean nothing to them.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm so glad the Black Panthers are public again.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, my I was raised by two you know,
Speaker 1: not college educated humans and my grandmother, who also you know,
Speaker 1: who said right is right and wrong is nobody right?
Speaker 1: And they meant that shit. But yeah, Claudae was not chosen.
Speaker 1: But you know the point that she made again that
Speaker 1: Poly made before both of them back in like I
Speaker 1: think nineteen forty, Yeah, is what Rosa Parks was eventually
Speaker 1: known for.
Speaker 2: Right, No less powerful of a statement, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, But Claudette sat down first before Rosa, and
Speaker 1: she died at eighty six. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's crazy because I was not made aware of
Speaker 2: her existence until an episode of Drunken.
Speaker 1: Drunk History, That's what Kathy said, Drunk History, how about that?
Speaker 1: But and if it was not for Nellie Fitzpatrick, I
Speaker 1: would not know about Polly Mary same and then you know,
Speaker 1: have then found the documentary and then found out, you know,
Speaker 1: right that Paulli yeah, refused to get up in nineteen forty. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I put on our social media after Claudette Covin died,
Speaker 2: we had a fifteen minute fave last season called Claudette
Speaker 2: Oh Okay, And it was basically a house song about
Speaker 2: Claudette Covin and the civil rights movement. I love that
Speaker 2: and I especially loved that song because the choruses do
Speaker 2: not fuck with colored people. So on the day she passed,
Speaker 2: I made a point of posting that song on our socials.
Speaker 1: Cool cool also Yeah, speaking of.
Speaker 2: Music, John Forte died. He was found dead at fifty
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Young so young, my age, that is young. That is young. Shit.
Speaker 2: John Forte is famously known for being part of the
Speaker 2: Refugee Camp All Stars with White Clef Jean. He was
Speaker 2: on the Carnival album. I always think of him in
Speaker 2: the song We're Trying to Stay Alive. And he had
Speaker 2: that interesting, like sneaky voice, and he could dance, and
Speaker 2: he was a he had a really cool flow. And
Speaker 2: it's funny because I was just randomly thinking about him
Speaker 2: a couple of days before because I was listening to
Speaker 2: we Trying to Stay Alive and I was like, I
Speaker 2: wonder what he's up to because he was really talented.
Speaker 2: And then two days later, so I hope I didn't
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: I don't think you did, but uh, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: you did not.
Speaker 2: But yeah, fifty and there's no signs of foul play
Speaker 2: or readily apparent cause of death.
Speaker 1: Right right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was a native of New York City. Yeah, musical
Speaker 1: prodigy who broke through in his early twenties. He was
Speaker 1: a multi instrumentalist and rapper, and he released solo albums
Speaker 1: as well, with contributors including Carly Simon, who, interestingly, her
Speaker 1: son Ben Taylor was a good friend of his. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was that connection there to music. John Forte
Speaker 1: dead at fifty. Scott Adams I mentioned he was the
Speaker 1: disgraced racist Bilbert creator. Yeah, I did set at sixty eight,
Speaker 1: say what you want.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy that I didn't find out until much
Speaker 2: later that he was racist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the comment came out in what twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: He had a little racist rant. Until then, Dilbert was clever.
Speaker 2: It was clever, if not always funny, true, true, but
Speaker 2: it did.
Speaker 1: It was satirical about office life, and sometimes it was
Speaker 1: dead on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he did.
Speaker 1: It was ubiquitous in the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 2: It really was.
Speaker 1: He was pulled from wide circulation after he degraded black
Speaker 1: people in a twenty twenty three rant. He was pulled
Speaker 1: from the Washington Post, et cetera. And I forget what
Speaker 1: he even said, does it actually matter? No, No, I remember,
Speaker 1: so he was commenting on a poll about the statement
Speaker 1: it's okay to be white. He said. If nearly half
Speaker 1: of all blacks are not okay with white people, that's
Speaker 1: a hate group. I don't want to have anything to
Speaker 1: do with them. And I would say, based on the
Speaker 1: current way things are going, the best advice I would
Speaker 1: give to white people is to get the hell away
Speaker 1: from black people because there is no fixing this. Wow, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: holy missing the point, Batman. Yeah, and it was you know,
Speaker 1: it was a poll. It was a rest musing poll
Speaker 1: that found fifty three percent of Black Americans agreed with
Speaker 1: the statement it's okay to be white, while twenty six
Speaker 1: disagreed and twenty one percent specified they weren't sure. You
Speaker 1: know right, you know what, say what you will. That's
Speaker 1: probably true somewhere. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The comparison I always people, The comparison I always make
Speaker 2: is if everyone in your family went to everyone in
Speaker 2: my family and punched us in the face every day
Speaker 2: for let's say four hundred.
Speaker 1: Years, just to pull a number out of the air.
Speaker 2: Yes, and so everyone in my family publicly said, we
Speaker 2: don't fuck with everybody in your family, fuck each and
Speaker 2: every one of you, right, But you blame us for
Speaker 2: having that sentiment, not them. For doing the punching. That's
Speaker 2: kind of what that argument is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he tried to defend himself and did not do so. Well. No, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what it is? What it is.
Speaker 2: That leads me to believe that he had an interaction
Speaker 2: with a couple of black folks that didn't go the
Speaker 2: way he thought it would and.
Speaker 1: So therefore something something anyway he did, or he was
Speaker 1: hanging out with Joe Rogan or somebody. Well, no, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Racist too, Rogan. Yeah, I mean he's
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I don't know about that part.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, he's a let me not even
Speaker 2: stop myself from from being nice. Yes, Joe Rogan is
Speaker 2: a racist because someone did a super cut of all
Speaker 2: the times that he said on his show and it
Speaker 2: was like a two minute video that plus loves to
Speaker 2: have people like Steven Miller on his show and like
Speaker 2: all these anti trans people. So yeah, fuck Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2: I don't even know why I was going to give
Speaker 2: him a moment of grace.
Speaker 1: I don't know, But the fact that you were willing
Speaker 1: to makes you a better person. I agree. But fuck him,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, but fuck him. No, thank you, But I
Speaker 1: mean neither way. But yeah, as long as I don't
Speaker 1: have to do it, I can't imagine that being pla.
Speaker 2: No, I believe the phrase is painting the children.
Speaker 1: Dip it in tar.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I don't imagine there's a lot of fiber in his diets.
Speaker 1: That's all I We.
Speaker 2: Are hitting the ground running the week show.
Speaker 1: We're not okay, there's good news, Yes there is, and
Speaker 1: we should probably go right there, gohead, you want to start, sure.
Speaker 2: So, George Floyd's aunt called out Trump after Renee Goods killing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good Yeah.
Speaker 2: According to Angela Harrelson, her death, Renee Goods death draws
Speaker 2: parallels to George Floyd's murder and the lasting trauma it
Speaker 2: left in the community. I mean, I can't be the
Speaker 2: only one that made that comparison in my head. She said,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is not God. He thinks he is, but
Speaker 2: he is not.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Minneapolis once again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Minneapolis is like this hotbed of of like
Speaker 2: strife and and police violence. And it's someone said, who
Speaker 2: would have thought that the revolution would start in Minneapolis,
Speaker 2: you know, besides Prince.
Speaker 1: Besides Prince. She spoke out about the killing and the
Speaker 1: similarities she sees between Goods death and Floyd's murder in
Speaker 1: May of twenty twenty yeah by a former Minneapolis police officer.
Speaker 1: While both murders were high profile and sparked nationwide protests,
Speaker 1: they also received different reactions from the public. Wonder why
Speaker 1: Goods family has also retained the same law firm that
Speaker 1: represented Floyd's family to investigate her shooting and press for
Speaker 1: answers in the case. According to The Grio, both Trump
Speaker 1: and his administration considered goods killing justified. Of course they did,
Speaker 1: uh huh, accusing her of interfering with ICE operations, Have
Speaker 1: Security Secretary Christy no Waste of Flesh called her actions
Speaker 1: a domestic terrorism. This is what I mean when I
Speaker 1: say words mean nothing, right, and said she weaponized her vehicle. Yeah, this,
Speaker 1: you know there's video people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. They keep doing this Like Google
Speaker 2: is not a thing, Like YouTube is not a thing.
Speaker 2: Like we don't all have cameras in our pockets, bitch,
Speaker 2: we can see you.
Speaker 1: They think they have. She said, they're out of control.
Speaker 1: She's right, and they feel like they don't have to
Speaker 1: answer to nobody but Donald Trump. That is that is
Speaker 1: how they act. Because January sixth, and then he pardoned
Speaker 1: them all and then yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2: She said, they're killing black, brown, and even white people.
Speaker 2: How about it, some of these people could end up
Speaker 2: being your neighbors, the people you work with, the people.
Speaker 2: You know, All of this stuff trickles down when you're
Speaker 2: dealing with absolute destruction and corruption.
Speaker 1: Yea word, corruption is the most important word here, because
Speaker 1: they are corrupt as the day is long, and we
Speaker 1: have nothing but incompetence running our government right now for nothing,
Speaker 1: but because no one who's competent will work for them exactly.
Speaker 2: She also said, I love this. She said, if you
Speaker 2: stand for humanity, you know what to do. The tide
Speaker 2: is going to turn and it's going to be rough
Speaker 2: for a while, but we will get there. I know
Speaker 2: the pain. You guys know the pain. We all know
Speaker 2: the pain. We know this pain together. But we will
Speaker 2: see the light again.
Speaker 1: We will. And like I said, Rome wasn't obliterated from
Speaker 1: the map. They just fell right. They ain't the seed
Speaker 1: of much. I mean, you know the tea dance that
Speaker 1: is the Vatican, but well you know, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: what is happening is hideous, period. I'm glad. She spoke up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all related. Of course they're related. This abuse of
Speaker 1: power is a problem, and these jackals are not law
Speaker 1: enforcement per se. They're acting like they're the cops, but
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not cops.
Speaker 2: No, they're armored bullies. Right.
Speaker 1: And the only thing they can deal with his federal law,
Speaker 1: which yeah, Trump is a punishing Minnesota overall. Yeah, he is.
Speaker 2: Talking about bringing the military and to stop the protests.
Speaker 1: Right, this is all so transparent, and yet he still
Speaker 1: has those who will defend this. And you know you're
Speaker 1: the one who wants to explain it to your grandchildren
Speaker 1: if we all still have a I don't know a
Speaker 1: planet by the time this jackass is done. Christy Noom,
Speaker 1: there is a push for her impeachment, as there will
Speaker 1: should be. Word Democrats seek to remove her over the
Speaker 1: Ice allegations. Yeah, period, Yeah, she should be removed truly.
Speaker 2: She's not doing anything to make our quote homeland.
Speaker 1: Yes, she has no absolutely no qualification to be where
Speaker 1: she is. She says the most ridiculous things and she
Speaker 1: has no problem saying them like she doesn't even I
Speaker 1: don't know hesitate, let alone choke on her words, as
Speaker 1: she should, right, Robin Kelly introduced three articles of impeachment
Speaker 1: against her last Wednesday. The first accused her of obstruction
Speaker 1: of denying Congress members access to ICE facilities. CBS News
Speaker 1: reported them. The second article leg she violated public trust
Speaker 1: by sending ICE agents to arrest people without warrants and
Speaker 1: directing tear gas against citizens. And the third accuses Gnome
Speaker 1: of abusing her power by bypassing the contract process to
Speaker 1: fund a two hundred million dollar ad campaign to recruit
Speaker 1: ICE agents and giving the contract to a company run
Speaker 1: by a friend of hers. No kidding, right, no kidding
Speaker 1: brought her reign of terror to the Chicago Land Area, LA,
Speaker 1: New Orleans, Charlotte, Durham, and communities east north to south
Speaker 1: to east to west. That's everywhere. That would be everywhere.
Speaker 1: She needs to be held accountable for her actions. I agree,
Speaker 1: I agree. You know, in my best dreams, I see
Speaker 1: them all being held accountable for this.
Speaker 2: Right, make examples of all.
Speaker 1: Illegal, unconstitutional, unconscionable behavior. Yeah, m hm, yep, get them
Speaker 1: out anyway. That was I guess that's a little bright spot, right.
Speaker 1: I like to death and I loved the headline a
Speaker 1: New Yugov poll asked Americans whether they thought that certain
Speaker 1: issues were a problem for either political party. Forty four
Speaker 1: percent said that transphobia was a major problem among Republicans,
Speaker 1: and twenty four percent said they thought it was a
Speaker 1: minor problem. Only thirty two percent of respondents said it
Speaker 1: wasn't a problem and they're the transphipts. Transphobia was the
Speaker 1: second most likely issue to be labeled a problem by respondents,
Speaker 1: after hostility toward immigrants, tolerance of political violence, conspiracy thinking,
Speaker 1: white supremacy, homophobia, and fascism followed closely behind. The headline
Speaker 1: was Americans think Republicans are too obsessed with trans people?
Speaker 1: For really perfect headline, Yeah they are. This is a
Speaker 1: they need to keep pointing to something to distract and
Speaker 1: that's why they keep you know, they're putting the pedal
Speaker 1: to the metal. And then they were in the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: you know this this week talking about us playing sports.
Speaker 1: If I could, how many of us don't even play
Speaker 1: sports in the places where they're making rules. But whatever, right.
Speaker 1: It was eleven hundred and seven US adult citizens interviewed
Speaker 1: from December thirtieth to January first, so it was a
Speaker 1: quick pull. They were also asked if they had an
Speaker 1: overall favorable opinion of the Democratic and Republican parties. Their
Speaker 1: views were fairly balanced, nine percent for a bull view
Speaker 1: of Democrats, same percentage. Somehow right, this is you know,
Speaker 1: you want to know people are stupid? Here you go, Well,
Speaker 1: I had a favorite with Republicans. But this is my point.
Speaker 1: Even their people are saying, what the fuck is your problem? Right?
Speaker 1: Stop it already? I know trans people are not raising
Speaker 1: grocery prices. We have nothing to do with Greenland or
Speaker 1: Venezuela or Argentina or wherever the fuck he is these days, Like,
Speaker 1: we have nothing to do with any of that, never did.
Speaker 1: We are not your problem, right, And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: They are the pedophiles.
Speaker 2: We need to swap out ice and bring in the
Speaker 2: irony police, because, oh my god, everyone talks about ideologies
Speaker 2: being quote shoved down our throat rootes, where it's actually
Speaker 2: transphobia that's being shoved down our roots. No one's even
Speaker 2: thinking about trans people. And then two o'clock on a Wednesday,
Speaker 2: there's something about bathrooms and sports.
Speaker 1: Right, And here's the thing. The people who continue to
Speaker 1: push this narrative are predators. They are predators, whether they're
Speaker 1: fucking children, trying to fuck children, jerking off to pictures
Speaker 1: of children being fucked, or otherwise doing shit they shouldn't
Speaker 1: be doing, right. They are the predators. Our president right
Speaker 1: now is a predator, and this is predator behavior, all
Speaker 1: of it. No, look over there, look over there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm somehow causing someone a problem. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: unless you're upset that my tree is still up, I'm
Speaker 1: still looking at my Christmas tree because I need a
Speaker 1: little joy. Yeah, what the fuck? What the fun? But
Speaker 1: this is what this is what predators do. And you know,
Speaker 1: if we listed every fucking time there's a Republican in
Speaker 1: the paper being hauled off to jail, ding ding ding Yeah,
Speaker 1: for more charges of pedophilia. M yeah, you know who
Speaker 1: they're not in jail with drag queens, right, trans people
Speaker 1: ding ding h yeah, queers in general. Right, Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: not there. Nope, y'all are there. Y'all are there, And
Speaker 1: this is what predators do. Yep, good god. Anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we don't need surveys to know this, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm glad they're doing them because they never did. They
Speaker 1: never bothered before. Thank you for bothering now. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: are too obsessed with us, you know why they want
Speaker 1: to fuck us? And many of them do.
Speaker 3: Mmmmmmm.
Speaker 1: You look up transport and you see where it's most popular,
Speaker 1: and then you compare that to political affiliation. It's like
Speaker 1: a direct overlay.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know, we know.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're well aware.
Speaker 2: The then diagram is a perfect fucking circle. Yes, it
Speaker 2: is pun sort of intended.
Speaker 1: So this just made me smile. Activist chalk messages outside
Speaker 1: Harry Potter play reminding fans they're fueling transphobia.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, it's like let the Little Wizard Boy story go.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Spread love, not hate, Boycott Harry Potter. Period translates.
Speaker 1: Activists protested a production of Harry Potter and the Cursed
Speaker 1: Child at London's Palace Theater last Sunday, writing a series
Speaker 1: of chalk messages urging fans to avoid saying the show. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Photos of the sidewalk near the theater show messages like
Speaker 2: Harry Potter tattoos have a higher regret rate than transition.
Speaker 1: That's right, Spread love, not.
Speaker 2: Hate, boycott Harry Potter. And it's true. It's like, I
Speaker 2: don't understand this need to hold on to this, Like,
Speaker 2: I can't see someone dropping two hundred, two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty three hundred pounds on a theater ticket just to
Speaker 2: prove a point that they like JK. Rowling. I think
Speaker 2: it's like laziness of thought and not wanting to let
Speaker 2: go of things that you like. But it's like, after
Speaker 2: a certain point, who are you really? You know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like I was a hardcore Harry Potter fan.
Speaker 2: I went on Potter more, I got myself sorted. I
Speaker 2: was a proud Slytherin for the longest time. I had
Speaker 2: my my famous uh whipping scarf was my Slytherin house scarf.
Speaker 2: But you know what happened. I put it all away
Speaker 2: because I didn't want to be associated with someone who
Speaker 2: is sympathetic to her terfism. Period. You just stop.
Speaker 1: She's funneling profits at this point two items directly sponsoring
Speaker 1: actions against trans rights and trans people exactly. She's not
Speaker 1: even hiding it, right, This is her you know, this
Speaker 1: is her thing.
Speaker 2: Right, So the money that you're spending on that theater
Speaker 2: ticket is directly funding basically trans kids killing themselves. Is
Speaker 2: that what you want?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is what she wants. What she wants clearly
Speaker 1: what she wants.
Speaker 2: That's what she wants. I'm talking about to the people
Speaker 2: that are going to see the shows, you don't you want?
Speaker 1: I don't know what they think about, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: reminded of how many times, you know, different people said
Speaker 1: to me, well, and culture doesn't believe that shit. Well,
Speaker 1: she's making money with it, and she went on television
Speaker 1: for how long I'm going I haven't heard her name
Speaker 1: in a while, but I don't want to hear those
Speaker 1: arguments anymore.
Speaker 2: And that's not better.
Speaker 1: This is who No, it's not better exactly. Well, it's
Speaker 1: all for theater. No, we're well past all that because
Speaker 1: too many, too many people take all this very seriously, right,
Speaker 1: and people are dying, and people are being hurt, Yeah,
Speaker 1: desperately hurt. And you know, you're showing us where you stand,
Speaker 1: right if you don't know anything about it, it shows
Speaker 1: me where you stand. I mean, all I gotta do
Speaker 1: should be discouraged is go look at the line at
Speaker 1: the chick filt.
Speaker 2: Because I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know most of y'all don't care, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but but but that is what she is doing with
Speaker 1: that money, and there are better ways to spend money.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know there are times when I can
Speaker 1: separate the art and the artist, and this is not
Speaker 1: one of them, correct, because she keeps doubling down.
Speaker 2: Right, Because there's one thing when supporting the art that
Speaker 2: you separate from the artist does nothing, but you know,
Speaker 2: contribute to the zeitgeist. And there's another one when you're
Speaker 2: directly funding the harm of other people.
Speaker 1: Right. And if she's really worried about women, fund shelters, fund,
Speaker 1: education fund, childcare fund, birth control, on fucking abortion for
Speaker 1: that matter. Right, you know, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: things that you could put your money toward that would
Speaker 1: actually protect and empower women. Yeah, going after Transfok, Nope,
Speaker 1: you're not accomplishing a goddamn thing but marginalizing already marginalized people.
Speaker 2: Well, I told you, Like over the pandemic, I was
Speaker 2: seriously thinking about sitting down and designing a bunch of
Speaker 2: of like knockoff magashit to sell, and like I was like,
Speaker 2: fuck it, I'll take the stupid people's money. We need money.
Speaker 2: But then I stopped and thought, would you be able
Speaker 2: to live with yourself?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I would not, So I didn't do it.
Speaker 1: No, I don't want that money exactly. I don't want
Speaker 1: that money. I mean, although, if you want to buy
Speaker 1: some nice merchandise, go anyway.
Speaker 2: They'll finish the fucking sentence, go.
Speaker 1: Over to our store. Yes, and purchased them. Full circle,
Speaker 1: the podcast merchandise.
Speaker 2: Yes, full circle the podcast, the store.
Speaker 1: The store. Let's take a quick break and come back
Speaker 1: with more good news. We'll be right back. You know,
Speaker 1: I put these articles together, or you did, but they
Speaker 1: belong together. Mackenzie Scott, former wife of Jeff Bezos Right,
Speaker 1: donated forty five million dollars to the Trevor Project amid
Speaker 1: this mental health crisis and all that has been going wrong.
Speaker 1: It's a record gift during a critical funding moment. This
Speaker 1: is the nation's leading suicide prevention and crisis intervention organization
Speaker 1: for our youth YEP, they received a forty five million
Speaker 1: dollar donation from philanthropist Scott, the largest single gift in
Speaker 1: their twenty seven year history. The contribution arrives during a
Speaker 1: turbulent period for the organization, which lost federal funding earlier
Speaker 1: this year. While demand for LGBTQ plus mental health services
Speaker 1: continues to climb across the United States and beyond, and
Speaker 1: you know, as long as cruelty is the point The
Speaker 1: Trevor Project is there to counteract it with love exactly.
Speaker 1: And she put her money behind that?
Speaker 2: Would that fall under burning the profits of our oppressors?
Speaker 1: Oh? Maybe? Okay, I guess so right? Maybe? Oh from
Speaker 1: the settlement with him. But isn't she Scott paper. Didn't
Speaker 1: she have money to begin with that? Or is it
Speaker 1: Bezos money? I mean she probably has more from divorcing him,
Speaker 1: but still I thought she had money to begin with.
Speaker 1: Well either way, either way, yeah, why not?
Speaker 2: It's she's a bad ass for doing it.
Speaker 1: The crisis continue use. This provides stability to the organization,
Speaker 1: but it is not a finished line. It will have
Speaker 1: long term impact. This file is a six million dollar
Speaker 1: gift she made in twenty twenty YEP, signaling continued confidence
Speaker 1: in the organization's mission and operations. I love it.
Speaker 2: That's like, oh, okay, I like what you're doing, and
Speaker 2: you're doing pretty good. Here's one hundred dollars. Oh your
Speaker 2: your organization is in danger now and I love what
Speaker 2: you're doing. Here's one thousand dollars. Is that it's that
Speaker 2: equivalent in broke people terms.
Speaker 1: It's wonderful. You know, this is how billionaires should spend
Speaker 1: their money because it's not their money to begin with, somebody,
Speaker 1: if you have billions of dollars at you're disposed, somebody
Speaker 1: somewhere wasn't treated well. I'm just saying, like somebody wasn't
Speaker 1: paid well, that you have that kind of money in
Speaker 1: your pocket or something or something. Yeah, I mean people
Speaker 1: had to be used along the way.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what would be that equivalent in
Speaker 2: terms of Beyonce. And then I'm like, well, then you
Speaker 2: do have people that are like, spend the rent money
Speaker 2: on Beyonce tickets?
Speaker 1: Yes, they do. What is the Beyonce ticket costs? In
Speaker 1: the way you're at, She don't go say no, no, no,
Speaker 1: let me give you those tickets for free.
Speaker 2: Right, No, if you want to sit in like the
Speaker 2: last rowway at the top, you can spend anywhere from
Speaker 2: two to three hundred dollars, right, But the further up
Speaker 2: you go, I believe I saw tickets that were like
Speaker 2: seventy five one hundred dollars a piece.
Speaker 1: I don't believe she does many free concerts.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying no, And you know, I would like
Speaker 2: to see Beyonce in concert.
Speaker 1: But yes, you know they just she does, you know,
Speaker 1: probably more than almost anyone in terms of trying to
Speaker 1: work ethically correct. Yeah. Absolutely, I still don't think anybody
Speaker 1: should be a billionaire. More and more of that mind,
Speaker 1: you know, right that, uh, this is crazy. You know,
Speaker 1: we're going back to the guild to day and that
Speaker 1: wouldn't that wouldn't fun for most people.
Speaker 2: This is why guillotines were invented.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. You know. I remember saying as a child,
Speaker 1: if they keep this up, they won't be able to
Speaker 1: buy locks big enough to keep them safe. And I
Speaker 1: remember coining that phrase when I found out that Sears,
Speaker 1: remember Sears, Yes, Sears, when I was a kid, was
Speaker 1: full of full time employees who could pay mortgages and
Speaker 1: raise families right and got full benefits. And the people
Speaker 1: at Sears knew their shit. It was that kind of
Speaker 1: department store, and they had everything literally, you know, so
Speaker 1: there was a tool department and a clothing department, and
Speaker 1: and they all knew what they were talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: the applying salesman had done that their whole lives. All
Speaker 1: of them tended to be full time employees, you know,
Speaker 1: who could build a life based on the salary. They
Speaker 1: got from Sears, and I remember having my mother having
Speaker 1: a conversation with a woman who had been there for
Speaker 1: many years, who was I think being laid off or
Speaker 1: she was retiring maybe anyway. The point was though she
Speaker 1: was talking about how all these you know, they were
Speaker 1: not replacing full time employees, they were hiring part time employees, right. Oh,
Speaker 1: and so they were putting in new register systems because
Speaker 1: shrink went up, right, you know, like you've got to
Speaker 1: have more security when you're not giving people anything because
Speaker 1: they're going to steal from you. Of course they are,
Speaker 1: because you're not to concur with them, right. And that's
Speaker 1: when I went, you know, if we keep this up
Speaker 1: as a society, you're I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: buy locks that are big enough to keep you safe.
Speaker 1: If we're all going to be out there roaming for bread,
Speaker 1: you know, God help you. And that's what that kind
Speaker 1: of mentality does, that mentality that says, you know, how
Speaker 1: cheap can we get labor? Right, which shows how little
Speaker 1: can we give so we make all this money?
Speaker 2: Right? And if that's how my job values me, then yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take some shit home in my coat, right.
Speaker 1: You know. But back then you know again, you know
Speaker 1: when the Deptford Mall first opened, you had all these
Speaker 1: full time people who had worked there for years, very
Speaker 1: proudly knew their ship and they probably didn't have a
Speaker 1: big shrink problem back then.
Speaker 2: Because there's more of a sense of ownership.
Speaker 1: There was a sense of ownership and you know, I
Speaker 1: can live and survive and thrive and that just where
Speaker 1: is that anymore? You know, like in a retail kind
Speaker 1: of a job where you're actually your knowledge is valued.
Speaker 2: And yeah, because before I had my high end but
Speaker 2: not my current job. I is working in a grocery store,
Speaker 2: but this particular grocery store was a family owned business,
Speaker 2: and you know, there were benefits to the job and
Speaker 2: we felt taken care of. You know, It's like I, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was making minimum wage, but minimum wage here is
Speaker 2: double what it is anywhere else. Well, that's true, Joe,
Speaker 2: you know, so it was like I didn't feel as
Speaker 2: resentful as I might have working in say a seven
Speaker 2: eleven in Philly.
Speaker 1: Well, right, because you know, they was a place where
Speaker 1: they try to do better right, And there are places
Speaker 1: like Costco and Wegmans and you know where they do
Speaker 1: try to do.
Speaker 2: Right much better.
Speaker 1: But I just remember that and thinking, you know, my god,
Speaker 1: we don't take care of people. We don't, you know,
Speaker 1: we keep looking for ways to eliminate people, not take
Speaker 1: care of our neighbors.
Speaker 2: And then have the nerve to say nobody wants to work.
Speaker 1: They have the nerve to say nobody wants to work.
Speaker 2: No, no one wants to subject themselves to the conditions
Speaker 2: that you're only willing.
Speaker 1: To offer, right right, You know, if all you got
Speaker 1: is part time work and you don't have benefits, and
Speaker 1: you don't, I mean, why would First of all, why
Speaker 1: would somebody come off unemployment for that?
Speaker 2: Dang?
Speaker 1: Second? Once unemployments over, why would you take that? If
Speaker 1: you can find something that actually helps you survive, why
Speaker 1: would you give all your time to that unless you
Speaker 1: have no other choice?
Speaker 2: Like, no shade, Why would I work for you and
Speaker 2: making pennies when I can make three times as much
Speaker 2: selling feet picks on only fans?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there's that, no shade, you know, But we
Speaker 1: used to kind of look at collectively as a society
Speaker 1: at that kind of shit and say that's that shouldn't be.
Speaker 2: If I thought my feet were cute, I'd have done this.
Speaker 2: It's a long time ago Jesus correct, you could get
Speaker 2: away with that. Well, thank you anyway, sidebar.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm ruling nothing out at this point. It's
Speaker 1: not cheap to live here anyway, anyway. You know, it
Speaker 1: really is like we don't think enough about the dignity
Speaker 1: of work, and you know how important it is. I
Speaker 1: don't know how we've got down that road, but fuck
Speaker 1: the billionaires, eat the wretch. This was another extended study.
Speaker 1: And you know I have said and I stand behind
Speaker 1: this idea. This is from ScienceDirect dot com. I stand
Speaker 1: by the notion that this hyper fixation on trans people
Speaker 1: has some added benefits. We call them unintended consequences. Right
Speaker 1: in that knowledge has never been higher, It's never been
Speaker 1: easier to get accurate information, right, right, even though there's
Speaker 1: all this misinformation. The February edition of the Journal of
Speaker 1: Pediatrics released a study that you know, the headline reads
Speaker 1: change in suicidality among transgender adolescents following hormone therapy. They
Speaker 1: did an extended study. These things are finally happening. It's
Speaker 1: good when they happen among reputable folks, right, Yeah. The
Speaker 1: results suicidality significantly declined from pre treatment to post treatment
Speaker 1: The effect was consistent across sex assigned at birth, age,
Speaker 1: at start of therapy, and treatment duration. The conclusion was
Speaker 1: HT was associated with clinically meaningful reductions in suicidality over time,
Speaker 1: Extending prior findings with a larger sample and longer follow up.
Speaker 1: These study findings provide clinical evidence supporting the mental health
Speaker 1: benefits of timely access to hormone therapy in this population.
Speaker 1: Hello once again, Yeah it's science, folks, Yeah, it's trans.
Speaker 1: People are real. Trans kids know they're trans, and trans
Speaker 1: medicine saves lives.
Speaker 2: And you know what science has there to do with
Speaker 2: emotions periods.
Speaker 1: Right, So when the pedophiles and the predators tell you
Speaker 1: that I'm the problem, I hope you've listened to the
Speaker 1: show long enough to now. No, I'm not right. No, No,
Speaker 1: I am not the problem. Nope, me and mine are
Speaker 1: not the problem.
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 1: Anyway, yet another study, yet another you know, uh, lots
Speaker 1: of references here. Changes in gender DySp you in her
Speaker 1: personal minority, stress and mental health among transgender youth after
Speaker 1: one year of hormone therapy. Emotional health of transgender youth
Speaker 1: twenty four months after initiating gender affirming hormone therapy, the
Speaker 1: association of gender affirming hormone therapy with depression, thoughts of
Speaker 1: suicide and attempted suicide among transgender and and on and
Speaker 1: on and on. These papers are being published. They all
Speaker 1: support the same conclusion. When we have access to proper
Speaker 1: gender firming care, it is life saving and life transforming,
Speaker 1: and our regret rates are far lower than any other
Speaker 1: form of healthcare. Right because it's right on the news,
Speaker 1: right on the news. It's what we needed.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's amazing what happens when you get the right medicine
Speaker 1: for them, right thing exactly. Anyway, there's she had another study.
Speaker 1: I thought that that was good news. Yeah, yeah, so that.
Speaker 1: I mean, We've got a couple of fun things to
Speaker 1: talk about later. But it's about all the good news
Speaker 1: we could find this week. And we looked hard. Yeah
Speaker 1: we did that. Said it is time for our favorite segment,
Speaker 1: sad joy people taking pleasure. Ha ha ha. This first item,
Speaker 1: a protrans pediatric group won twelve million dollars as the
Speaker 1: judge slams Robert Kennedy's retaliatory funding cuts. Ha. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: American Academy of Pediatrics will get their grants back As
Speaker 1: lawsuit moves forward, a US district court judge sided with
Speaker 1: the American Academy of Pediatrics late Sunday night in a
Speaker 1: ruling that temporarily restores twelve million dollars in funding to
Speaker 1: the group. HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jackass and full
Speaker 1: abruptly canceled previously awarded grants worth eighteen million dollars in December,
Speaker 1: and what the Children's Health group called a retaliatory move
Speaker 1: just exactly what it was right. Children are in charge
Speaker 1: right now. US District Judge Beryl Howell in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Agreed restoring a portion of the funding as the law
Speaker 1: agreed restoring a portion of the funding as AAP's lawsuit
Speaker 1: against the Trump administration plays out. It's not a case
Speaker 1: about whether AAP or AHHUS is right or even has
Speaker 1: the better position on vaccinations and gender affirming care for
Speaker 1: children or any other public health policy, she wrote in
Speaker 1: her decision. This is the case about whether the federal
Speaker 1: government has exercised power in a manner designed to chill
Speaker 1: public health policy debate by retaliating against a leading and
Speaker 1: generally trusted pediatrician member professional organization focused on improving the
Speaker 1: health of children.
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to discredit the actual experts. Yep, so that
Speaker 2: your little bullshit agenda can be upfront.
Speaker 1: That's what they got their hands left for, and rightly so.
Speaker 1: They cited a range of reasons for their funding cuts,
Speaker 1: including the use of identity based language and references to
Speaker 1: racial disparities and pregnant people. Who are the snowflakes? Again,
Speaker 1: who are the snowflakes? We're going to take away your
Speaker 1: money because we don't like your words, we don't like
Speaker 1: inclusive language to the extent that we don't give a
Speaker 1: shit who dies. That's what they're doing. That is literally
Speaker 1: what is happening in the United States of America. Thank
Speaker 1: god the courts are holding at least sometimes. In this case, they.
Speaker 2: Did purity insanity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a chorus of condemnation over Kennedy's decision to
Speaker 1: stop recommending the COVID nineteen vaccine for children, as well
Speaker 1: as his firing of the CDC Panel of Independent Vaccine Advisors.
Speaker 1: I like to replace them with a handpicked panel of
Speaker 1: vaccine skeptics.
Speaker 2: Chorus, who know nothing? You know?
Speaker 1: This is taking the people who do know and who
Speaker 1: dedicated their lives to knowing and replacing them with you
Speaker 1: might as well be random folks from the internet who
Speaker 1: have deeply help opinions.
Speaker 2: I mean, low key.
Speaker 1: When your kid is dead because you listen to these people.
Speaker 1: I don't know who you're going to cry to, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to see a lawsuit.
Speaker 2: It kind of does look like they picked folks off
Speaker 2: of Twitter.
Speaker 1: We tried to tell you, We all tried to tell you.
Speaker 1: In fact, you know, I'm at a point right now
Speaker 1: where I feel like saying, don't go to a hospital
Speaker 1: if you support this administration and you support this kind
Speaker 1: of nonsense in terms of you know, a person being
Speaker 1: in charge of HHS. If you get cancer, I don't
Speaker 1: want to see you at the oncologist office, right, I
Speaker 1: want to see you go. I want to see you
Speaker 1: talking to I don't know your faith healer, go to
Speaker 1: church right where you belong.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You want to keep discrediting science, You want to keep
Speaker 1: discrediting expertise. It's becoming dangerous to the public health and
Speaker 1: has been. You know what, don't don't use our healthcare
Speaker 1: system then you stay away from it. Yeah, you and
Speaker 1: your you and yours can go die in a field. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean that's not how we do so
Speaker 1: when even these jackasses show up gasping for breath as
Speaker 1: they did with COVID nineteen because they would not take precautions,
Speaker 1: they now, yeah, right, too late, sorry, and you know,
Speaker 1: they died. So many people died unnecessarily because they wouldn't listen.
Speaker 1: And this is what fuels that, you know, people like
Speaker 1: RFK being in a position of power never ever should
Speaker 1: have been. You know, but thanks Saint Reagan, because as
Speaker 1: he unleashed all of this, he unleashed the fringe. And
Speaker 1: it's still happening, and we're still paying for the decisions
Speaker 1: that man made and still and this is an example
Speaker 1: of that. As far as I am concerned.
Speaker 2: There's still folks out there trying to say that COVID
Speaker 2: wasn't that bad. I just heard someone say that it
Speaker 2: worked the other day.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the court shut down a dangerous attempt to
Speaker 1: use federal funding as a political weapon and punish pediatricians
Speaker 1: for speaking the truth. This ruling sends a clear message
Speaker 1: no administration gets to silence doctors, undermine public health, or
Speaker 1: put kids at risk, and we will not stop fighting
Speaker 1: until the unlawful retaliation is fully ended. Good please keep
Speaker 1: fighting it's a shame that they have to It's a
Speaker 1: shame that they have to dedicate any energy to this
Speaker 1: nonsense that they do. I was quoting Sky Perriman, president
Speaker 1: and CEO of Democracy Forward, the legal group representing AAP.
Speaker 1: They won twelve million dollars. That's got to sting a little.
Speaker 2: And good because again, their cash is all they understand.
Speaker 1: Kind of well and humiliated. They can be humiliated. I
Speaker 1: mean this is humilating. Rick Reannell, Oh yeah, I love
Speaker 1: the headline. Gay Trump toady claims he meant to fire
Speaker 1: an opera company but came up with the worst excuse.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, because the opera company left. Yes, but he
Speaker 1: meant to fire.
Speaker 2: It's very much like you can't quit. I fired you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bullshit?
Speaker 2: Uh uh gay Trump Administration.
Speaker 1: Rick Grennell self loving house dagger.
Speaker 2: Yeah that I knew you're going to say that, claimed
Speaker 2: I love this, claimed his ex account was hacked that
Speaker 2: week the week.
Speaker 1: Twitter Twitter account.
Speaker 2: Yeah ACKed ya this is from last week. Claimed his
Speaker 2: account was hacked over the weekend by leftist enemies intent
Speaker 2: on under mining his boss's promise for a new quote
Speaker 2: golden age in the arts at the Kennedy Center whew.
Speaker 1: Yet is he that delusional? Is he right there with
Speaker 1: all this? Is he that stupid?
Speaker 2: I guess he is, or he's just highly practiced in
Speaker 2: having his tongue so far up. Someone's asked that when
Speaker 2: they open their mouth you can see his face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they all can't decorate either.
Speaker 2: So on that Friday, the Washington National Opera we talked
Speaker 2: about this on the show, announced that they were leaving
Speaker 2: the once revered cultural institution due to poort ticket sales
Speaker 2: and attendance after Trump's takeover of the institution last year.
Speaker 2: The next day, Grenelle said that he fired the opera company,
Speaker 2: not the other way around, and claimed he had already
Speaker 2: announced it in posts that were deleted. In a hat quote,
Speaker 2: the Trump Kennedy Center has made the decision to end
Speaker 2: the exclusive all caps partnership with the Washing to An
Speaker 2: Opera so that we can have the flexibility and funds
Speaker 2: to bring in operas from around the world and across
Speaker 2: the US, is what he said on good Luck on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Good luck we good luck having people travel to this country.
Speaker 2: Right. We have spent millions of dollars to support the
Speaker 2: Washington Opera's exclusivity, and yet they were still millions of
Speaker 2: dollars in the hole and getting worse. It's almost like
Speaker 2: they're an arts nonprofit.
Speaker 1: And it's your fault anyway. Yeah, oh yeah, this is
Speaker 1: such bullshit, right, but I plan that right, Oh girl.
Speaker 2: Please, so, he said. The left continues to try and
Speaker 2: silence people they don't agree with, Cornell said in his
Speaker 2: post claiming a hack and the pursuit of its perpetrators,
Speaker 2: but they will never succeed.
Speaker 1: He added, We're the ones trying to silence dissent.
Speaker 2: Uh huh yeah. His tweet said, I have alerted X
Speaker 2: Twitter that's some one to hack my account last night
Speaker 2: and deleted my content on our opera announcement and media corrections.
Speaker 2: X will find the hacker and deal with him, slash her.
Speaker 1: And that's the only place this existed. It was only released.
Speaker 2: On that part that part. That party.
Speaker 1: Show us the files, otherwise you got to create them,
Speaker 1: right right.
Speaker 2: I will repost the statements. I will repost the statements
Speaker 2: from last night once they are recovered. Stand by you
Speaker 2: see how this doesn't require a lick of like proof
Speaker 2: or anything.
Speaker 1: What they do, this is who they are. They are liars,
Speaker 1: all of them.
Speaker 2: If anyone has screenshots of last night's content. I would
Speaker 2: appreciate you reposting.
Speaker 1: Here, but no one dead her. Right.
Speaker 2: The left continues to try and silence people they don't
Speaker 2: agree with, but they will never succeed. So you put
Speaker 2: it that way, so if nothing comes of it, you
Speaker 2: can blame other people for.
Speaker 1: The Left is so good at what they do, right,
Speaker 1: you know what like, oh you look and more the
Speaker 1: full as you deserve? Yet another message queens right, whatever, yeah,
Speaker 1: chickens roosting whatever? Good God, good God. The dog ate
Speaker 1: my homework. Right, the dog gate the opera.
Speaker 2: The dog ate my homework and then ran away.
Speaker 1: I planned this. Yeah, this is all part of my
Speaker 1: grand plan. Two something arts back to the Golden age?
Speaker 1: Is that what he said? What is what?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Those were words back when m hm hm Wanda Sykes
Speaker 1: thanks community. Right next for anti trans comic Rickager vase
Speaker 1: at at the Golden delightful you you're going to thank
Speaker 1: God and the trans community, she said, of the absent
Speaker 1: comedian who is an atheist and a transfer Yep, good
Speaker 1: for her. I loved it. I think it's fun. We
Speaker 1: didn't watch the Golden Globes, but I'm very happy that
Speaker 1: she took the opportunity to do this.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it was all over and the best part
Speaker 2: was she next she said what she said, and she
Speaker 2: meant when she said, because when she got up there
Speaker 2: to present the award, she said, I would like to
Speaker 2: take this opportunity to thank you, Ricky Gervais for not
Speaker 2: being here, and if you win, I'm going to accept
Speaker 2: this award on your behalf and you were going to
Speaker 2: be thanking God and the trans community. And then she
Speaker 2: opened the envelope and his name was there, so she said,
Speaker 2: I would like to Ricky would like to thank God
Speaker 2: and the trans community, and then walked off. She said
Speaker 2: what she said, and then what she.
Speaker 1: Said, Well, she opened her remarks by thanking the Golden
Speaker 1: globes right, because you know, there's some people pissed off
Speaker 1: that a black queer woman is up here doing the
Speaker 1: job of two mediocre white She then proceeded to gently
Speaker 1: roast the Category six nominees, including Brett Goldstein, Kevin Hart,
Speaker 1: Kamal and Johnny and Sarah Silverman. But when it came
Speaker 1: to two of the nominees, she got a bit more savage.
Speaker 1: Bill Moore, You'll give us so much, but I would
Speaker 1: love a little less word amen. It is unclear what
Speaker 1: specifically she would like to see less. No, it's not
Speaker 1: from Mare, who styles himself as politically moderate. She may
Speaker 1: have been referencing his vocal opposition to gender affirming care
Speaker 1: for minors, or his support for Floridas Don't Say Gay law,
Speaker 1: his genital transfer, his general transphobia, general same thing, Or
Speaker 1: maybe she was just referring to more belittling celebrities like Sykes,
Speaker 1: Mark Ruffalo, and Jean Smart, who wore be Good pins
Speaker 1: to the Golden Globes in honor of Verna Nicole Good,
Speaker 1: the thirty seven year old queer mother who died after
Speaker 1: getting hit by gunfire from an ice agent, shot in
Speaker 1: the face and execute. When it came to Ricky Gervase,
Speaker 1: Sykes noted that the unapologetically anti trans comedian was absent
Speaker 1: from the ceremony. I love you for not being here,
Speaker 1: et cetera, because if you win, I get to accept
Speaker 1: the award on your behalf and you're going to saank
Speaker 1: God and the trans community, which is what happened. Yep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been punching down since twenty nineteen in defense of JK.
Speaker 2: Rowling, and he's been unfunny for longer than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're jokes, they're jokes, he said he has a
Speaker 1: right to jokes. It did lead to the call for
Speaker 1: his dismissal as host of the twenty twenty Golden Globes. Yep,
Speaker 1: he doubled down in twenty twenty two on his anti
Speaker 1: trans whatever, and as recently as last week he said
Speaker 1: in an interview with BBC Radio fours This Cultural Life
Speaker 1: that he hasn't changed his tune on trans issues because
Speaker 1: I think I'm right.
Speaker 2: That was the most white man answer I know.
Speaker 1: I know, well he is. Yeah, yeah, And I love
Speaker 1: when they say you can't say anything anymore. Maybe you're
Speaker 1: just not funny, babe, right right, punching down is never
Speaker 1: going to be funny but mediocre men. And it's not
Speaker 1: just white men, because Dave Chappelle, you know who has
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I think I'm right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That makes me think of I bring this up often.
Speaker 2: That makes me think of that episode of Will and
Speaker 2: Grace when Karen was like, and you know how I
Speaker 2: know it's true because I really think so. And yes,
Speaker 2: you do have the right to your jokes, and we
Speaker 2: have the right to call you an asshole. Tell you're
Speaker 2: not funny that Mama.
Speaker 1: Raised you wrong, just saying exactly, yeah. I there was
Speaker 1: a time when I thought it was funny.
Speaker 2: He has been funny.
Speaker 1: And then I went, you know what, I'm sorry, punching
Speaker 1: down is never funny. I don't care who you're punching
Speaker 1: down at. I used to be a fan of Bill
Speaker 1: Maher It's not okay and right, yeah, I was. At
Speaker 1: one time I cared what he had to say, and
Speaker 1: then I realized he there were similarities between his dissent
Speaker 1: and our former friend you know, yeah, who goes well,
Speaker 1: there's something to all that. A right, maybe we should
Speaker 1: be listening more to this obscene rhetoric. Some of it
Speaker 1: makes sense to me, go fuck off exactly anyway, before
Speaker 1: we take another break, do you have a fifteen minute fave?
Speaker 1: I do? Okay.
Speaker 2: So a few weeks ago, I was listening to One
Speaker 2: Song podcast and they had mentioned this band from the
Speaker 2: UK called the Lambrini Girls, and they're an all woman
Speaker 2: like neo punk group.
Speaker 1: Will call them okay.
Speaker 2: And so I went and I checked out their album
Speaker 2: and I love them. It's a bunch of women like screaming,
Speaker 2: but they're talking about gentrification and male fragility.
Speaker 1: It's just good, no wonder. They're screaming.
Speaker 2: And they're smart and they're funny. So my fifteen minute
Speaker 2: fave is by the Lambrini Girls, and it is called
Speaker 2: no Homo Okay. And in the song, she's talking to
Speaker 2: the girl who she likes, and she's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I said, I liked your face, but I made sure.
Speaker 2: I said, no homo. I like the way you look.
Speaker 2: I said, no homo. And then that's like the first
Speaker 2: half the song. The second half of the song is
Speaker 2: fuck it. I like you, so Homo.
Speaker 1: On that note, so Homo, We're going out to the
Speaker 1: break with.
Speaker 2: No Homo by the Lambrini cris I said.
Speaker 3: No homo. I tell her I'm hitting the type of
Speaker 3: beauty the pupposed to dressed like a day dream. I'll
Speaker 3: getting down on one bee a theory, you'll reflection, there's
Speaker 3: some rights.
Speaker 1: It's just for her, I.
Speaker 3: Said, I like the company. And then I said, no homo.
Speaker 3: I tell her like she's sometime around her rabbits, Lomo
Speaker 3: been to me of everything. I tell her how I
Speaker 3: really push you realize and I'm homeo for sure, like
Speaker 3: not any game like no Homo, I said, I like
Speaker 3: the wishy just in there. I said, no, Homo prepe
Speaker 3: like said, let's see you're trampaining for the castle. Then
Speaker 3: Angel of the world be tramped in pogetry attests from
Speaker 3: heaven and I've dream to hell, said I like the
Speaker 3: wishy tuting. Then I said, no home her eloquence of
Speaker 3: residents stuff, I.
Speaker 2: Was spoken lit to me of everything. I'll tell her
Speaker 2: how I.
Speaker 3: Really push your really, I'm sure I like your pay the.
Speaker 1: Night and we're back.
Speaker 2: We're back.
Speaker 1: It's time. I'm gonna try to race through this, do it.
Speaker 1: But it is time for the cavalcade of nonsense.
Speaker 2: Go baby, go through h.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Ludicrous who we mad at here? I'm
Speaker 1: not even sure.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I know that he had signed up, apparently for a
Speaker 1: MAGA leaning concert series. Yeah, after it drew criticism and jokes,
Speaker 1: uh huh, he pulled out of the festival. His team
Speaker 1: is claiming that he was never supposed to be included
Speaker 1: in the event.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I believe any of that gotcha
Speaker 2: because I just don't see him as being that swift anyway.
Speaker 2: It was Ludacris and Nelly, That's the other thing, because
Speaker 2: we already know that Nelly is magatool now?
Speaker 1: Oh really?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he performed at the inauguration.
Speaker 1: Okay bye, not that I who care?
Speaker 2: But Ludacris and Nelly were the two major rap artists
Speaker 2: scheduled to appear at the festival, alongside country and rock
Speaker 2: acts such as Trump supporter Kid Rock, who founded the
Speaker 2: festival in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Oh good god, Okay, all you need to know, That's
Speaker 1: all you needed to know.
Speaker 2: So, Ludacris had been scheduled to appear at two of
Speaker 2: the series eight shows in Anderson, South Carolina, and Ocalla, Florida.
Speaker 2: As of Friday afternoon, Ludacris's name had been removed from
Speaker 2: the promotional material on the concert series website and in
Speaker 2: recent social media posts, while Nelly remained on the list
Speaker 2: of scheduled artists. Because he meant that.
Speaker 1: Shit, ah uh huh okay, Yeah, it looks like he
Speaker 1: saw a little heat and decided he didn't want that.
Speaker 2: That's what it was.
Speaker 1: Maybe he took a page out of Maybe he'd been
Speaker 1: watching Nicki Minajen.
Speaker 2: You know what, right, Isaac Hayes the Third said, y'all, Oh,
Speaker 2: Ludacris an apology, MM hmmm. Maybe because Ludacris's music sampled
Speaker 2: his father and so therefore that would be affecting his
Speaker 2: pocket directly, right and make it as loud as them
Speaker 2: videos y'all posted.
Speaker 1: I will not oh because he believes that it was
Speaker 1: all a mistake to begin with. Is that what he's saying?
Speaker 2: Okay, right, because someone said there was no mix up.
Speaker 2: He was getting dragged through these social media streets for
Speaker 2: being to perform at that festival. Nice try, Okay, that's
Speaker 2: what I fear.
Speaker 1: You don't believe it? Do you think he was gonna
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 2: I mean, I have only had one personal interaction with
Speaker 2: Ludacris in my entire life, and he was rude and dismissive.
Speaker 2: So I'm team fuck him anyway. Okay, So I could
Speaker 2: be I could be clouded by that.
Speaker 1: But yeah. There are yet more celebrities joining the Harry
Speaker 1: Potter audiobook series despite backlash. Pink News posted a list
Speaker 1: of them so far. Bill Nai who I you know?
Speaker 1: Has he done anything since love? Actually? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but anyway, he's one of them. That person who's named something,
Speaker 1: Monica Jackson, how do you say that, I'm trying, Circe,
Speaker 1: how do you say that, Oh, Circe Circe, Monica Jackson,
Speaker 1: and Adam Maxwellmartin.
Speaker 2: I don't know who that is either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they well, one of them is from see Dairy
Speaker 1: Girls or is it Sortia whatever it is, she's from
Speaker 1: Dairy Girls. Yeah, and Bill Ny and the other one
Speaker 1: Motherland star Ana Maxwell Martin have joined the cast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of them. I don't really know many
Speaker 1: of these names, so, but yeah, there's a list available.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll post the list just in case any of
Speaker 2: you care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in case you in case you do give a
Speaker 1: shit about which celebrities that you follow are naming themselves
Speaker 1: as transphobes. Here they are. Here's the list.
Speaker 2: Jk Rowling apologists, because at this point it's not like
Speaker 2: they don't know. So they prefer money over morals. Sure, okay,
Speaker 2: as long as people continue to be.
Speaker 1: Oh, Kiera Knightly, Yeah, as one of them.
Speaker 2: Are you serious?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Kiera Knightley was grilled by journalist on whether she
Speaker 1: knew about the boycott of Harry Potter content before she
Speaker 1: signed up to play Dolores Umbradge in the audiobook series.
Speaker 1: She was criticized for her response, during which she laughed.
Speaker 1: I was not aware of that. No, I'm very sorry,
Speaker 1: she said, Okay, quote, you know, I think we're all
Speaker 1: living in a period of time right now where we're
Speaker 1: all going to have to figure out how to live together,
Speaker 1: aren't we. That'd be nice, And we've all got very
Speaker 1: different opinions. I hope that we can all find respect.
Speaker 2: Really, and see when they say that when they say
Speaker 2: we all need to learn to live to Yeah.
Speaker 1: That means stop complaining about my boot on your neck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me do so inconvenient to hear you.
Speaker 2: Right, Let me do my problematic shit and don't say
Speaker 2: nothing to me about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. All that that's what she meant. Yes, all
Speaker 1: that means, Yes, that's what they mean when they call
Speaker 1: for peace, that's what they mean. Shut up, will you?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: It so tedious hearing about your oppression, right, m h yeah,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Just because I'm harming you didn't even want to hear
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: See Doctor Who's star Michelle Gomez as she had a
Speaker 1: response to backlash after she was cast as Professor mcgonagal.
Speaker 1: I hear you, and I understand why this is painful
Speaker 1: for many.
Speaker 2: I just don't care.
Speaker 1: I want to be clear that I stand with trans
Speaker 1: people and I support trans right no, fully and without
Speaker 1: hesitation lies. Okay, I now understand more clearly how deeply
Speaker 1: complicated and hurtful this association can feel. And I take
Speaker 1: that seriously. Did you quit?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Being an ally means listening even when it's uncomfortable, and
Speaker 1: taking accountability where it's needed. I'm committed to doing both.
Speaker 1: Did you quit, Hugh Laurie, Yeah, Hugh Laurie.
Speaker 2: James McAvoy, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: If if she didn't quit, those words are you know,
Speaker 1: words aren't just cheap, they're free people exactly. Yeah. Taking
Speaker 1: accountability means I will not be a part of this product.
Speaker 1: That's what it means. I'll take your money, even if
Speaker 1: it costs me money.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'll take your money, and I'll let you
Speaker 2: use my face, voice and likeness. But I don't mean
Speaker 2: it anyway.
Speaker 1: They've had it even more so. Yeah, those are the
Speaker 1: people like you can't tell me both things. JK. Rowling
Speaker 1: is a transpher. She is working against our existence period.
Speaker 1: Her language is dangerous and harmful, right, and she has
Speaker 1: the money to make it even more dangerous. And you
Speaker 1: can't say you stand with us and then do that shit.
Speaker 1: You can't do both right. Sorry, that's not how this works.
Speaker 1: If you're going to take a stand, take a stand.
Speaker 1: Otherwise your words are hollow.
Speaker 2: Right. If you appear in the plays, in the audiobooks
Speaker 2: and the video games and all of the properties for money,
Speaker 2: you are supporting trans ideology.
Speaker 1: Sharon Katz once again, who could ill afford it? Was
Speaker 1: headed to a transphobic festival. Didn't realize it. We brought
Speaker 1: it to our attention. She turned around and went home
Speaker 1: and went home. She didn't go right, cost her some
Speaker 1: money she needed.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 1: But that's what you do when you are who you
Speaker 1: say you are, period. Otherwise it's just bullshit. So you know,
Speaker 1: that's where we live now. Sorry, but that's where we live.
Speaker 1: And this woman is using millions of dollars to harm
Speaker 1: innocent people and you're okay with it. If you're on
Speaker 1: that list, you are okay with it, period, full stop.
Speaker 1: That's that. So here's this is fun. The Trump administration
Speaker 1: sent out a letter, oh yeah, wiping out addiction and
Speaker 1: mental health grants, reading out a MPR. This fucked up
Speaker 1: your mood for like three days from two days ago. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, dosee did this doge wiped out by bunch
Speaker 1: of funds. Right, My grant was one of them, you know,
Speaker 1: the first program in the state actually helping trans people
Speaker 1: with addiction and mental health, you know, wiped out our
Speaker 1: funding and for so many other programs. It's almost like
Speaker 1: we don't have an overdose problem in this country. Dose
Speaker 1: did that, and that was the first round. And now
Speaker 1: they sent shockwaves through the US mental health and drug
Speaker 1: addiction system laid on Tuesday, sending hundreds of termination letters
Speaker 1: effective immediately for federal grants supporting health services. People were
Speaker 1: fired because of this. Yeah, okay, And then there's a
Speaker 1: note at the top of the article that says update.
Speaker 1: After NPR's reporting, the Trump administration reversed its decision and
Speaker 1: confirmed that sweeping cutst to mental health and addiction programs
Speaker 1: worth more than two billion dollars are being reversed. Hmm,
Speaker 1: I are we supposed to say thank you? Like? What
Speaker 1: the fuck? Copies of the letter that were sent to
Speaker 1: two different organizations reviewed by NPR's signal SAMSHA officials no
Speaker 1: longer believe the defunded programs aligned with the Trump administration's priorities.
Speaker 1: The letter set over two thousand grands where a total
Speaker 1: of more than two billion dollars were affected, coming on
Speaker 1: top of deep medicaid cuts, and the note just says, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're reversing that. This is just indicative of all the insanity.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll keep following this and see where it lands.
Speaker 1: But the fact that they would, you know, they would
Speaker 1: say this in the first place, tells me this is
Speaker 1: not over. This is meant to send a chill up
Speaker 1: the spine of anyone, you know, not falling in lockstep
Speaker 1: with their ideology over science right this.
Speaker 2: I was just watching a video on social media earlier
Speaker 2: today and they were talking about a section in the
Speaker 2: book nineteen eighty four when the government said that we're
Speaker 2: being generous and we're giving you an increase of chocolate
Speaker 2: rations to twenty percent, even though the week prior it
Speaker 2: was thirty percent. So we're saying we're giving an increase
Speaker 2: and it's twenty percent. It's less than what you had,
Speaker 2: but we want you to be grateful for what we're
Speaker 2: giving you. It's kind of giving that it's that we're
Speaker 2: taking it away, but then we're giving it back and
Speaker 2: we're putting you in all this turmoil.
Speaker 1: But be grateful that we're doing it right. And now
Speaker 1: maybe you'll listen to us when we say, don't use
Speaker 1: those words, don't treat those people right, and those people
Speaker 1: are allowed to die.
Speaker 2: And you don't know what foot you're hopping on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but stop comparing them to the Nazis, Charles, it
Speaker 1: upsets your KKK.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, So that moving on. There's a Washington
Speaker 1: state pack and they are pushing for a transport span
Speaker 1: that includes genital inspections, and they say that they have
Speaker 1: received enough signatures to put this on the ballot.
Speaker 2: They really just want to look in people's pants, That's.
Speaker 1: Really they do. And it's a school specific transgender sports band,
Speaker 1: involves genital inspections, and you want to put it on
Speaker 1: the Washington state ballot. This is where they were heading
Speaker 1: all the time. These are pedophiles, These are these are
Speaker 1: you know, chilchildren's fists. And this is of course, you know,
Speaker 1: protecting the gals. I don't even want by singering every
Speaker 1: single one of them, how.
Speaker 2: Thorough these quote unquote inspections are going to be.
Speaker 1: They seek to amend Washington law and school district policies
Speaker 1: in order to bar trans girls from competing in girl sports.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. They currently permit students to play sports that
Speaker 1: align with their gender identity, as they should. Should this
Speaker 1: particular bill law ballot initiative go into effect, student athletes
Speaker 1: hoping to compete in girl sports would be required to
Speaker 1: medically verify their sects assigned at birth based on the
Speaker 1: student's reproductive anatomy, genetic makeup, or normal endo geniously produced
Speaker 1: testosterone levels. In other words, to play girl sports, student athletes,
Speaker 1: many of whom are miners, could be subjected to blood
Speaker 1: tests or invasive genital exams. This is where they want
Speaker 1: to go, This is what they want.
Speaker 2: It is fucking disgraceful.
Speaker 1: If their signatures are certified, Washington State legislators can either
Speaker 1: pass the initiatives as written, reject it, or propose an alternative.
Speaker 1: If they reject the initiative, it will appear on the
Speaker 1: state ballot during the twenty twenty six midterm on November three.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it would lose in Washington. If they propose
Speaker 1: an alternative, both that and the alternative will appear on
Speaker 1: the Washington state ballot. Even if it does pass, it
Speaker 1: could still face significant challenges at the state level. No shit,
Speaker 1: Washington State's anti discrimination law explicitly prohibits discrimination on the
Speaker 1: basis of gender expression or identity. But this is yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the party of small government. They want into
Speaker 1: your children's pants to keep them safe.
Speaker 2: I can't even form an emotion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what Republicans wants. They want to diddle
Speaker 1: your kids in order to protect women's sports. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: Literally, Oh my god, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's what they want. I'm sorry, that's not even hyperple
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, okay.
Speaker 2: This reminds me of I saw a video of can.
Speaker 1: You imagine you've got to go for an internal so
Speaker 1: that you can play soccer? Right? Spread your legs girls? Right?
Speaker 1: What the ever living fuck?
Speaker 2: Right? Yep, there was.
Speaker 1: It was always going in this direction, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: stop at trans people. SI. Women been telling you this forever,
Speaker 1: and it's this women who are paying the price for
Speaker 1: this nonsense often that's going to continue.
Speaker 2: I saw a video there's this anti trans rally and
Speaker 2: the counter protesters were asking each of the going up
Speaker 2: to each of these people and asking them if they
Speaker 2: can name any five any five women athletes. None of
Speaker 2: them could, of course, not once, of course not, because
Speaker 2: that's not what the whole point is.
Speaker 1: Well, by the way, Amy Saidaris is a piece of shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't't have to go any further. She was
Speaker 2: this is on New Year's.
Speaker 1: On New Year's with Anderson Cooper and undercon.
Speaker 2: Messy as Andy Cohen.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, and she was one of their gats. And
Speaker 1: Cooper asked where is the best place to meet a
Speaker 1: man in twenty twenty second and Sidaris quickly fired back
Speaker 1: it might be in the women's bathroom.
Speaker 2: The joke didn't land, and they let it be awkward.
Speaker 2: They let her be awkward on cameras. So do you
Speaker 2: give them points?
Speaker 1: I appreciate that she can go fuck herself. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: CHMZ does not write about an apology. One should be forthcoming.
Speaker 1: She's not even known for political comedy.
Speaker 2: She asked me. She's not known for comedy comedy.
Speaker 1: She said, she's board of the LGBT community, but apparently
Speaker 1: that doesn't include the tea whatever. Fuck Amy Sedaris? Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks for that, haha. Now is not the time, people, Nope,
Speaker 1: this one matters to me. The article was back in
Speaker 1: early December. We just didn't get to the last show.
Speaker 1: But a trans military worker barely eats her drinks to
Speaker 1: avoid work bathrooms. Yeah, this disguided me, and she is
Speaker 1: suing the Trump administration. It's a question of human dignity,
Speaker 1: is a question of equal treatment under the law, and
Speaker 1: I was not raised to back down from either of
Speaker 1: those things. She is a National Guard employee suing the
Speaker 1: Trump administration for discriminary bathroom policy that has significantly affected
Speaker 1: her quality of life while at work. I'm sure Leanne
Speaker 1: Withrow served in the Illinois National Guard for thirteen years
Speaker 1: and is now a civilian employee in the State Family
Speaker 1: Program's Office. Until the January order denying all federal recognition
Speaker 1: of trains people, she had never had a problem using
Speaker 1: women's restrooms at work. Now she barely eats or drinks
Speaker 1: all day to avoid having to use the facilities, which.
Speaker 2: I'm sure prevents her from being able to do her
Speaker 2: best work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she told the Advocate. She often skips both breakfast
Speaker 1: and lunch and avoids water as much as possible, surviving
Speaker 1: her work days on a single granola bar or a
Speaker 1: spoonful of peanut butter. While there is a single user
Speaker 1: restroom in the building where she works, many of the
Speaker 1: other buildings she visits on a regular basis do not
Speaker 1: have one. I know that I have to operate within
Speaker 1: the bounds of the policies as they currently exist, and
Speaker 1: I intend to do my job well and fully, and
Speaker 1: so in order to do that, I'm making that sacrifice.
Speaker 1: After nothing came of filing complaints with both the Army
Speaker 1: National Guard Bureau Equal Opportunity Office and the Equal Employment
Speaker 1: Opportunity Commission the EEOC, she decided to do the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: She filed a class action lawsuit in November, arguing that
Speaker 1: the ban violates the Title seven of the Civil Rights Act.
Speaker 1: She came out as trans during the Obama administration after
Speaker 1: then Secretary of Defense Ash Carter ended the ban on
Speaker 1: openly serving in the military. As trans, she was grandfathered
Speaker 1: in during Trump's first term military ban, and now that
Speaker 1: she is a civilian employee, the current band does not
Speaker 1: apply to her. I mean, I would be using the
Speaker 1: ladies room, arrest me, right, that's me, you know this
Speaker 1: could then sue them for wrongful termination exactly. I mean
Speaker 1: that's what I would be saying for and back pay
Speaker 1: and all that other shit while I relaxed. She believes
Speaker 1: her job is an incredibly important one, taking care of
Speaker 1: soldiers and their families and veterans, and the mission is
Speaker 1: the thing that she would like to be focusing on.
Speaker 1: So it's frustrating to realize that I have to logistically
Speaker 1: plan out which bathroom am I going to be allowed
Speaker 1: to use today, where I'm at at a given time,
Speaker 1: instead of just focusing on that mission. She said. She
Speaker 1: also feels out of pressure to overperform so that no
Speaker 1: one can say trans people are not built for the work.
Speaker 1: I mean that I get. Despite the challenge of going
Speaker 1: to court, she feels optimistic because she believes we're doing
Speaker 1: the right thing. In the back of my mind, I
Speaker 1: like to believe in the end the good guys went well.
Speaker 1: I wish her luck. Hopefully there will be follow up
Speaker 1: to that story. Yeah, yeah, I am. I'll be damned. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I can't see you accepting any of that.
Speaker 1: No, I can end up they're going to fire me.
Speaker 1: They would fire me, I guess.
Speaker 2: And make sure they put that shit in writing right.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we did the same thing with
Speaker 1: Sarah McBride. Is apparently thound her voice a bit. I'll
Speaker 1: have to revisit that. But I've seen her actually realizing
Speaker 1: she's trans lately because she tried that bullshit, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like, oh, I comply, yeah, because you
Speaker 1: have a private bathroom, Yes, exactly, and then they just
Speaker 1: double down anyway, So I would not be complying with
Speaker 1: this bullshit because it's bullshit from the beginning. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat, I'm gonna drink. I would drink more.
Speaker 1: Are you're kidding? I would be so fucking hydrated, and
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead enforce it. What are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: Pay the maintenance crew over time because they'll have to
Speaker 2: be scrubbing the carpet three times.
Speaker 1: I seriously, what are you going to do? I'm going
Speaker 1: to use the bathroom that I use, and what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Right? Go ahead, come on, that's what
Speaker 1: I don't personally, I know you, Yeah, I said if
Speaker 1: I were, If I were McBride, I would have never
Speaker 1: complied and I would piss on the floor of Congress
Speaker 1: before they would tell me I can't use the lady
Speaker 1: dream And with making direct use the correct bands, absolutely absolutely,
Speaker 1: and again I'd be really fucking hydrated because I would
Speaker 1: do it several times a day if I had to.
Speaker 1: M hm, you know obviously until whatever.
Speaker 2: Clean up on al seven next, I'm going for al ten.
Speaker 1: So I do want to point out that Benedictine University
Speaker 1: in Illinois held a trance to have remembrance event and
Speaker 1: stood their ground that it was an important event until
Speaker 1: Fox News reported on it, right, and then basically fucked
Speaker 1: the tranis. I mean that that was, you know, just
Speaker 1: to summarize it, you know, as soon as there's a
Speaker 1: little heat, right who that who day who you mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They initially doubled down on why tee door fit with
Speaker 1: their Catholic values and it does, it should, but Fox
Speaker 1: News picked it up. Fox News that has not even
Speaker 1: news right. They removed pages from their way site claiming
Speaker 1: to offer safe spaces for diverse communities. Yeah. What they
Speaker 1: have said was at Benedictine University, we believe that honoring
Speaker 1: the dignity of every person and praying for those who
Speaker 1: have died are fundamental expressions of our Catholic and Benedictine identity.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. The recent event was first and foremost of
Speaker 1: prayer service to honor lives lost. It was a solemn
Speaker 1: remembrance verted in Catholic social teaching and belief in the
Speaker 1: inherent and sacred dignity possessed by every person created in
Speaker 1: the image of God.
Speaker 2: That actually sounds lovely.
Speaker 1: Doesn't It sounds like something that should stay there. Sounds
Speaker 1: like a principle, right, it does. Well, it was only
Speaker 1: a principle until Fox News had something to say about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and of course Lives of Tech talk that grunt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she stepped in and as with all things she touches,
Speaker 1: it turns to shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they caved. Yep, yeah, they caved. They went from
Speaker 1: every life deserves a profound reverence to fuck you trainees.
Speaker 1: We're used to this.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, historically this is on brand with
Speaker 2: the Catholic Church.
Speaker 1: It really is, it really is. They had a safe
Speaker 1: Spain's program, etcetera, etcetera, And of course Fox News went
Speaker 1: after them because anything good shouldn't exist, anything decent, anything right,
Speaker 1: so they removed web pages. I know, it's just all
Speaker 1: double speak. We remain committed to being a community where
Speaker 1: all feels safe, respected and welcome when uh huh, and
Speaker 1: where we can come together in prayer, especially in moments
Speaker 1: as are where except where there's any right wing push
Speaker 1: back at all, we have to treat it like it
Speaker 1: isn't hate speech right, Okay, they stand for nothing one brand.
Speaker 1: I said it, yeah, and just to point out that
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck what your political affiliation is.
Speaker 1: This jackass Democratic US Senate candidate A Representative Ruben Gallego,
Speaker 1: a Democrat from Arizona. Democratic Senator Ruben Gallego, there were
Speaker 1: texts between him and an unnamed friend of twenty years
Speaker 1: discussing public perception of the Democratic Party and the future
Speaker 1: of the party, and the friend wrote, this is how
Speaker 1: the world views many Democrats and shared a meme of
Speaker 1: Representative Rosa Delaro, a Democrat from Connecticut who often has
Speaker 1: a short, purple dyed hair, which had superimposed text reading
Speaker 1: if a rectile dysfunction had a face wow, and he
Speaker 1: replied they aren't, and later wrote we look like the
Speaker 1: not fun party, always telling and correcting people, not allowing
Speaker 1: men to be men, women to be hot. We used
Speaker 1: to be the party of drugs and rock and roll.
Speaker 1: Now DEMN women look like damn men and DEMN men
Speaker 1: look like women. He didn't deny the messages, but he
Speaker 1: called it heartbreaking, but his friend shared them.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not sorry, I said it. I'm sorry you
Speaker 2: know about it.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he called the messages a reflection of
Speaker 1: what I've been saying the whole time, adding, I've been
Speaker 1: very clear about where I think the party needs to be.
Speaker 1: I do think we have to be an open and
Speaker 1: bigger tent party. Uh huh. So this is just a
Speaker 1: reflection of what I think I've said. What that the
Speaker 1: party was not as inclusive as it should be. What
Speaker 1: we're not allowing the hot girls in? Is that what?
Speaker 2: I'm not sorry I said it. I'm sorry you know
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then this is a Democrat who resorts to
Speaker 1: word salad. Dude, we see who you are. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: clear here. He has previously said he was concerned about
Speaker 1: transgender athletes competing in girls and women's sports, telling trans girls,
Speaker 1: we love you, we want you to be part of
Speaker 1: our community, but this is just the one place you
Speaker 1: can't play.
Speaker 2: So it says that he's a pro LGBTQ plus allies.
Speaker 2: So I guess only if you are straight presenting, white
Speaker 2: gay man and a trans woman he wants to fuck,
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: Aaron Reid said his messages do not reflect a genuine
Speaker 1: concern for the challenges facing American men, nor do they
Speaker 1: offer a blueprint for Democrats to win by mirroring the
Speaker 1: rights hostility towards gender variants. They reflect the same tired,
Speaker 1: corrosive rhetoric we have come to expect from the far right,
Speaker 1: and we should not accept it simply because it's coming
Speaker 1: from within our own coalition. Here here, I hope he's primaried,
Speaker 1: and I hope his political career ends. You really, we
Speaker 1: are seeing in New York that you can support queer
Speaker 1: and trans people and get elected and thrive. And right now,
Speaker 1: yeah it really, I'm sorry, I don't he's he's a Dino.
Speaker 1: I go, what you know? Right right? There's too many
Speaker 1: of these within the Democratic Party, and you know it's
Speaker 1: becoming too stark. If you can't figure out why it's
Speaker 1: important to support marginalized people, even if you don't really
Speaker 1: understand them. The Republican Party has their door wide open
Speaker 1: for you, and that sounds like where you belong. The
Speaker 1: DOJ ordered prison inspectors to stop concerner ering LGBTQ safety standards.
Speaker 1: That happened yep, this was NPR again early December. Stop
Speaker 1: evaluating prisons in jails using standards designed to protect transgender, intersex,
Speaker 1: and gender non conforming people from sexual violence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's a bad thing.
Speaker 1: This population is uniquely vulnerable to attacks, while incarcerated advocates
Speaker 1: say the change will put such people in even more danger.
Speaker 2: Yep, and it will. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: The DJ is now revising federal standards related to the
Speaker 1: two thousand and three Prison Rape Elimination Act in order
Speaker 1: to align with President Trump's Executive Order on gender ideology extremism. Yes,
Speaker 1: wanting to live is extreme? How lgy? Yeah. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: detention centers will undergo audits, and they will no longer
Speaker 1: be inspected using the standards specifically designed to keep us saved.
Speaker 1: The facilities include federal prisons, state prisons and jails, juvenile
Speaker 1: detention centers, and immigration detention centers. These inspectors, referred to
Speaker 1: as auditors, are not employed by the DOJ, but are
Speaker 1: hired by corrections agencies or by individual facilities. The DJ
Speaker 1: certifies the auditors and can decertify them. Of course, they
Speaker 1: did not respond to MPR's request for comment on the
Speaker 1: memo outlining all of this. Right, just the latest removal
Speaker 1: of protections, legal protections for trans people. Yeah, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is inhumane, literally in humane. Chile democrats aren't angry enough,
Speaker 1: but you know for real, it's got to trickle down
Speaker 1: to them. Until then Chick fil A for dinner, right exactly. Well,
Speaker 1: let's see what else do we have here. I do
Speaker 1: want to touch on the fact because we need to.
Speaker 1: Reading from the advocate, some takeaways from the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: arguments about bands on trans women and girls in sports. Okay,
Speaker 1: On Tuesday, they heard nearly four hours of arguments in
Speaker 1: two cases Little v. Heacocks from Idaho and West Virginia v.
Speaker 1: B p J that could define the future of transgender
Speaker 1: women and girls participation in school sports nationwide. A large
Speaker 1: and raucous crowd formed outside the Court, where dueling groups
Speaker 1: held rallies. Supporters of transgender people appeared to outnumber detractors. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Some traveled from across the country for the Fight for
Speaker 1: the t In Team rally organized by Lambda Legal, the ACLU,
Speaker 1: and Legal Voice, which featured transgender youth athletes, parents, members
Speaker 1: of Congress, and civil rights leaders calling for equal access
Speaker 1: to school sports. Congressional Equity Caucus Chair Representative Mark Tacano
Speaker 1: of California address demonstrators and sharply criticized Education Secretary Linda McMahon,
Speaker 1: who was speaking simultaneously at a nearby anti trans rally.
Speaker 1: If trans employees exist, surely trans teenagers exist. If trans
Speaker 1: teenagers exist, surely trans children exist.
Speaker 2: Bam.
Speaker 1: If trans employees have a right not to be discriminated
Speaker 1: against in the workplace, then trans kids have a right
Speaker 1: to a free and equal education in school. Here here.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, the Supreme Court ruled in Bostock that
Speaker 1: discrimination against gayer transgender people in the workplace is unconstitutional
Speaker 1: because it is inside. The courtroom was filled to with
Speaker 1: noticeably more men than women in attendance. Fuck Chase Strange.
Speaker 1: Oh of course was there on our behalf God, bless
Speaker 1: Chase ye Stranger. Let's say boys and girls teams are legal.
Speaker 1: The real fight is about whether trans girls can ever
Speaker 1: be treated like other girls for sports. The states say
Speaker 1: they are not required to make case by case exceptions.
Speaker 1: The bands operate only in one direction, and the state
Speaker 1: admitted it, which is discrimination. Sonya said on my oar
Speaker 1: said the bands look like sex discrimination, and she is
Speaker 1: absolutely correct. The Court has not decided whether trans people
Speaker 1: deserve stronger constitutional protection. We just want equal thank you,
Speaker 1: and equal protection. Would let these kids play, that would
Speaker 1: be equal protection. The Court may rule narrowly, and that
Speaker 1: that's I think what is likely to happen, you know,
Speaker 1: where they rule very specifically. So even if the court
Speaker 1: sides with the States, the ruling could be.
Speaker 2: Narrow equal rights, not special, not more now.
Speaker 1: But in the same way that we do protect women
Speaker 1: based on their gender, we need to protect trans people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: based on their gender. Yeah, it's you know, it's sex.
Speaker 1: Just I'm not preaching to the goire beating a dead
Speaker 1: horse and all of that. It happened in the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: I don't know when we're expecting the ruling to come down,
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll see what it does. We will
Speaker 1: see what it does. You know, we had the chance
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen to elect Hillary Clinton and we would
Speaker 1: be living an entirely different reality.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: But we don't trust women, right, and then they said
Speaker 1: not that woman, and then they had the chance to
Speaker 1: I liked another one. I didn't trust that.
Speaker 2: Yeah anyway, And I bet you're the ones that are
Speaker 2: in charge. They don't trust either.
Speaker 1: So no, they don't, they really don't.
Speaker 2: So what are we really talking about?
Speaker 1: You know what we're talking about? Oh, I know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take another break. Yeah, let's do that and grub
Speaker 1: our tongues and gargle and come back with some pop culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do that, and we're back.
Speaker 2: We're back. CoA CoA coauuk atka. I put this here
Speaker 2: because it just seemed appropriate. Pantone names its color of
Speaker 2: the Year for twenty twenty six white. Yeah, cloud Dancer
Speaker 2: is the actual name of the color white, but as white,
Speaker 2: that's I'm just gonna leave it there. Color of the
Speaker 2: Year for twenty twenty six is white. Is white, which
Speaker 2: is interesting because I thought that the color of the
Speaker 2: Year for twenty twenty five was white, and twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four in nineteen seventy three and eighteen oh two.
Speaker 1: But okay, yep, sure, right, it's a different shade. Ah,
Speaker 1: if not optically as bright as the last one or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where we are. That's where we are.
Speaker 2: Not as bright as the last one color.
Speaker 1: And you chose that one. Yeah, okay, this was just funny.
Speaker 1: So we watched we did watch the documentary about Chris Brown.
Speaker 2: Yes, a History of Violence. I believe it was.
Speaker 1: Called uh huh. He filed a five hundred million dollar
Speaker 1: defamation lawsuit. Judge dismissed it. Well, yeah, that it's only
Speaker 1: defamation if they're lying, jack ass, right like this, they're
Speaker 1: just telling they just reported on things. We know right
Speaker 1: where you want it, he did.
Speaker 2: They went by like police reports and eyewitness reports.
Speaker 1: But you put it all in that one place and
Speaker 1: it didn't make me look what it was like.
Speaker 2: Well, when you put it all together like that.
Speaker 1: It sounds bad, baby, baby, you look like an idiot
Speaker 1: filing a defamation again once again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That's really all there is to that.
Speaker 1: That's all we got, truly, that's all we got. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The judge went here, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: This is all you.
Speaker 2: Oh so this just this is a current conversation. Basically
Speaker 2: the fact that there's a new season of Drag Race
Speaker 2: and we're like two or three episodes in and like
Speaker 2: nobody can really watch it because it's on MTV. First
Speaker 2: of all, they change networks every season, and so they're
Speaker 2: on MTV. Nobody has cable and you can use a
Speaker 2: standalone MTV app if you go through a cable provider.
Speaker 2: And so you know, no one's paying for cable these
Speaker 2: days because cable ain't cheap.
Speaker 1: Did I tell you? Because we had a day without
Speaker 1: phone service. Rights of the day Verizon was down. We all,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of set us this up, you know,
Speaker 1: PU for martial things to come. Yeah, and so Verizon
Speaker 1: Internet was apparently also down. We had we had WiFi,
Speaker 1: but many did not.
Speaker 2: Because we have a different company.
Speaker 1: They sent us twenty dollars. They give us a twenty
Speaker 1: dollars credit to make up for the day. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll take it.
Speaker 2: I knew they were going to send out a credit,
Speaker 2: but that's all we got.
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty bucks. I mean it was not even a
Speaker 1: whole day. So but anyway, Yeah, the world is a
Speaker 1: different place for now, right, but we should not have
Speaker 1: day long outages. Too many people were lying, you know
Speaker 1: now we we run shit on Blue Chooth. We run
Speaker 1: shit on Blue Chooth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Wi Fi and.
Speaker 1: Wi Fi and right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: How many millions of dollars were lost because folks couldn't
Speaker 2: make a phone call or take a phone call transaction?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was fucked up because a
Speaker 1: couple of people were trying to call me and I couldn't.
Speaker 1: They couldn't come. They I couldn't get a phone and
Speaker 1: I couldn't make a phone call, right yeah, for hours.
Speaker 2: Luckily it was it was fixed by the time I
Speaker 2: had to go to work because that would have sucked.
Speaker 1: Right, right, but it was most of the day. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't know why I connected those two. But
Speaker 1: you were talking about streaming, man, people don't you know
Speaker 1: people don't have land lines anymore? Is where I was
Speaker 1: going the other place I was going plus twenty bucks off.
Speaker 1: But people don't, like most people have given up the landline, right.
Speaker 1: We still know some who were like, Noop, I'm keeping
Speaker 1: that because you never know.
Speaker 2: It's kind of smart.
Speaker 1: Actually maybe yeah, because we couldn't you could make a
Speaker 1: nine to one one call.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, that's the only thing we could make
Speaker 2: a nine one.
Speaker 1: Call, right, because I never saw where it says how
Speaker 1: many bars you have? This was the first time in
Speaker 1: the history of having a cellular phone where it's at
Speaker 1: SS for me, right, And you said that means you
Speaker 1: can call name one one in that thing. Right.
Speaker 2: The only reason I know that is because I have
Speaker 2: that second iPhone that I got because I'm a good person,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't have it's not attached to any kind
Speaker 2: of carrier network, so it's always says SOS right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So that was a huge walking around the block.
Speaker 1: You just didn't want to talk about it. Drag Apparently
Speaker 1: you can't see they're streaming unless you have cable, right,
Speaker 1: that's a deal. Yeah, and like you know, somebody will
Speaker 1: put it on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, well when the whole season is over,
Speaker 2: it'll show up on Paramount Plus. But not until the
Speaker 2: whole season is over, you know. And like cable is
Speaker 2: not is not cheap, Like you can get live cable
Speaker 2: through Hulu if you want to spend eighty four dollars
Speaker 2: a month, I do not, right, Filo is like you
Speaker 2: can get an introductory twenty five dollars a month and
Speaker 2: then it becomes like thirty five or forty dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many different packages and none of them
Speaker 2: are really cheap. And so it's like, well, who are
Speaker 2: these people that are watching drag Race because it ain't
Speaker 2: nobody I know, there's nobody has cable. So I just
Speaker 2: found that interesting and that's been a problem.
Speaker 1: We haven't had cable in years.
Speaker 2: Right, we haven't really needed it, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know's that, but it was dumping people crazy because like
Speaker 2: All Stars is always on Paramount Plus, Like it just
Speaker 2: goes directly to Paramount Plus and you can watch the
Speaker 2: new episode when it drops. So that's fine as we
Speaker 2: have that. But it's just, you know, and theoretically I
Speaker 2: could watch it at work because work has cable.
Speaker 1: I bet they do.
Speaker 2: But I don't want to sit and watch drag race
Speaker 2: with those people.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I don't know how that would
Speaker 1: go whatever.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's all. It's just it's a it's a
Speaker 2: it's a current conversation that is being had because folks
Speaker 2: are not thrilled about the way this is going down.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh well, I wonder why they keep moving network.
Speaker 2: Money hmm, Because first it started on Logo, I know,
Speaker 2: the little queer network that could, right, and then they
Speaker 2: got a little money, and so they moved to uh
Speaker 2: VH one, right, And then they were on VH one
Speaker 2: for a while, and then then they started airing All
Speaker 2: Stars on Paramount Plus exclusively and people were mad about
Speaker 2: that because that's an extra subscription. And then they moved
Speaker 2: to MTV and this is where they are. They've been
Speaker 2: in the MTV the past three seasons.
Speaker 1: And MTV and VH one used to be the same thing. Well,
Speaker 1: sister Sister Chambers or whatever. I mean, they were both
Speaker 1: on Basic cable, right, you got them both in the package,
Speaker 1: I believe, right, but we don't. Yeah, so sorry, right,
Speaker 1: I guess I've been watching Chicago PD. Yes, it was
Speaker 1: one of those I bypassed for so long. Right.
Speaker 2: It exists in the same world as all the laws
Speaker 2: in Order.
Speaker 1: Well, every time I would like get to the end
Speaker 1: of a long in Order binge, it would say, you know,
Speaker 1: you also you might also want to watch It's it's
Speaker 1: very violent in comparison, I know, because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of running. They're always running those god, a lot of chasing,
Speaker 1: a lot of running, a lot of running pretty people running,
Speaker 1: and most of the time but running running right right.
Speaker 2: Every time I would walk into the room, it was
Speaker 2: some chaotic craziness going on, shooting and screaming and running.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And and the only people that are on the Chicago
Speaker 2: Police Department are twinks, maximum models, and then folks that
Speaker 2: are like fifty five and up like that's it. No
Speaker 2: one in between. Hu, That's what I noticed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 2: It is weird.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's a thing.
Speaker 2: It's like, howard do you have any kind of seniority
Speaker 2: in the police apartment when you look like you're twenty
Speaker 2: years old.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just a new thing. I have
Speaker 1: never watched. It's entertaining, it's yeah, some of it's you know.
Speaker 2: It's very Is it more violent than s for you?
Speaker 2: I think it feels more.
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, there was too much running in that,
Speaker 1: but this is worse. It's like always running. Everybody runs away.
Speaker 2: It's like a severed woman's head. I'm just like, goddamn
Speaker 2: the fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's just been a you know, one of those
Speaker 1: things to put in the background. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Speaking of which the Golden Globes happened.
Speaker 1: They did. We mentioned to one to six earlier.
Speaker 2: Yes, and there was I know for one thing, there
Speaker 2: was a little bit of controversy. So Tiana Taylor.
Speaker 1: Won for the health Hamnet.
Speaker 2: It's a Shakespear the.
Speaker 1: Only thing we see all with sinners, which was great
Speaker 1: and one bad laughter another that's not on here. It
Speaker 1: is Best Motion Picture Drama, Best Motion Picture Musical Comedy.
Speaker 1: So wow, that's one battle after another. They're calling it
Speaker 1: a musical or comedy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's considered a comedy for some reason.
Speaker 1: Uh, huh.
Speaker 2: But Tiana Taylor won Best Performance by a Female Actor
Speaker 2: in a Supporting Role for One Bad Laughter Another. Now, yes, okay, yes,
Speaker 2: she's fabulous. I love yeah, Like I know, I know
Speaker 2: she's she was a singer who acts like I knew that,
Speaker 2: but I never really saw her until she was one
Speaker 2: of the hosts for the The Matt Gala this past year,
Speaker 2: and oh my god, she is so fucking fabulous. And
Speaker 2: uh then we saw her in One Bad Laughter Another
Speaker 2: and she put in work and she deserved to win
Speaker 2: her Golden Globe. But the conver station that's going on
Speaker 2: is her getting an award for that role as opposed
Speaker 2: to some of the other roles she's had is akin
Speaker 2: to Denzel winning his oscar for a training day. It's like,
Speaker 2: that's what you award. It's like a black woman who
Speaker 2: basically turns her back on the revolution and her family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that did happen.
Speaker 2: So but at the same time, it's like black characters
Speaker 2: are allowed to be complex too. Yeah, there's an argument
Speaker 2: to be made for but I totally get it.
Speaker 1: You got a squint to make that argument.
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, I mean, having not seen anything else
Speaker 2: that she's done.
Speaker 1: Acting wise, but I hear what you're like, I.
Speaker 2: Can understand why someone might have that that argument, like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, there's a reason training day one and or
Speaker 1: he won for training day and not Malcolm X.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. And the reason why Halle Berry
Speaker 2: won her fucking Oscar.
Speaker 1: Okay, hmm, that's the same thing. There's not an equal
Speaker 1: comparison to I mean, she won by yeah, which I
Speaker 1: never saw. Yeah, she was a battered woman, right, she
Speaker 1: was a.
Speaker 2: Single mother, not that bright. I believe she was a
Speaker 2: drug addict, and she fucked a racist white man. Uh
Speaker 2: huh is the long and short of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, And she got an Oscar huh. And I realized
Speaker 1: I never saw the movie Don't.
Speaker 2: Do It to Yourself. I saw it was the first
Speaker 2: movie I ever took myself to by myself, and I
Speaker 2: was sitting in the theater mad. And then I was like, well,
Speaker 2: let me watch it again, just to make sure that
Speaker 2: I'm like not being unfair. And I still hated it,
Speaker 2: and it just and I think I wouldn't have the
Speaker 2: strong feelings I have about her winning the Oscar if
Speaker 2: she weren't the first black woman to win that award.
Speaker 2: I think, yes, I think that's what did it. It's like, no,
Speaker 2: but anyway, I've forgiven halle Berry as a person, but that.
Speaker 1: Was I mean Tianna Taylor won Best Supporting Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and again she put in work that movie.
Speaker 2: That movie, you know, Arguments Aside was a wonderful film.
Speaker 1: A lot of these movies. I don't know a lot
Speaker 1: of these names. I don't know. Best Screenplay was one
Speaker 1: battle after another. Hm hmm, I's that right, we watched it.
Speaker 2: I still don't understand why Michael B. Jordan didn't win
Speaker 2: all the things for playing three part.
Speaker 1: Well yeah mm hmmm. Did sinners win anything?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Best Cinematic Achievement Cinematic and box Office Achievement and Best Score?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I'm in in both cases rightfully deserved, right right because
Speaker 2: like fuck box office achievement. They stay keeping that movie
Speaker 2: in the theaters. It it has left and come back
Speaker 2: so many times, like they, it leaves and it comes
Speaker 2: back with a bigger, bigger release. Then it leaves and
Speaker 2: it comes back in imax.
Speaker 1: H is the horn one for Pluribus, which it's still keeping.
Speaker 1: Told to watch right, Oh Noah Wiley remember him?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: From from from R one for the Pit, which is
Speaker 1: something else we have not watched. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I keep saying, we need to watch that.
Speaker 1: Gene Smart one for Hacks, yes, which I adore. Michelle
Speaker 1: Williams one for Dying for Sex.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the Oh that's a series.
Speaker 1: Or limited series. Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of my clients was showing me that show and
Speaker 2: tell me about it, and I was like, oh, good Christ.
Speaker 1: For the Studio, which we started watching and then stopped.
Speaker 1: Was there a reason we stopped or we just went?
Speaker 2: You stopped because you were annoyed by the style of comedy.
Speaker 2: It was like cringey cringe comedy. But I ended up
Speaker 2: finishing it and it is. It is funny, but it's
Speaker 2: also really well done. Like my favorite episode, as I
Speaker 2: think it might have been the last one you watched.
Speaker 2: It was called The Wonner, where he was visiting the
Speaker 2: set and they were trying to get that one take
Speaker 2: shot and he kept sucking it up.
Speaker 1: Yep, he kept messing it up, right, but then it
Speaker 1: just got to be ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Right. But the reason why I loved that episode was
Speaker 2: so much was when I realized that the episode itself
Speaker 2: was shot completely in one take. I was like, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, that's brilliant. And then I noticed from that
Speaker 2: point forward that each episode there was a certain cinematic
Speaker 2: technique that was used to do the episode. Like the
Speaker 2: very next episode had this really dramatic drone shot that
Speaker 2: you don't realize and if you're not paying attention. And
Speaker 2: then once I paid attention, I was like, oh shit.
Speaker 2: And then I backed it up and watched it again.
Speaker 2: It was really really well done, So I get it.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I also get why you wouldn't care for that style
Speaker 2: of comedy because it is kind of cringe porny.
Speaker 1: It annoys me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: I can just you know, read the news and be annoyed.
Speaker 2: This is true.
Speaker 1: I don't find it entertaining. Yeah, it got silly, it
Speaker 1: got like.
Speaker 2: Enough ally it was silly.
Speaker 1: But anytime I say enough already, yeah, we're like we're done.
Speaker 1: We're just done. Like when slapped, it turns into the absurd.
Speaker 2: There were moments of slapstick. Yeah you would have right
Speaker 2: now is absurd.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, that doesn't make me laugh.
Speaker 2: I liked it.
Speaker 1: I was entertained by it, but well, anyway, I won,
Speaker 1: he won something one right that happened. We didn't watch,
Speaker 1: and I have no desire.
Speaker 2: I would have liked to watch it, but I don't
Speaker 2: have the kind of schedule anymore on Sunday nights that
Speaker 2: I can watch award shows.
Speaker 1: May do not, so I don't have the desire. So
Speaker 1: there we go.
Speaker 2: I don't have the time. You don't have the desire, Nope, none,
Speaker 2: So no, But I do like knowing who wins and
Speaker 2: who is nominated, because you know, we've seen all of
Speaker 2: two and a half things that were nominated this year,
Speaker 2: so I'd like to see if the things that I
Speaker 2: liked win the things.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah, any other pop culture you'd like
Speaker 1: to talk about anything else happening?
Speaker 2: No, not really.
Speaker 1: I feel like culture is diminishing.
Speaker 2: Culture is not diminishing.
Speaker 1: M hmm the moment.
Speaker 2: I mean, the artist is still make an art.
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's true.
Speaker 2: But I'm noticing that I'm going to have a lot
Speaker 2: less time on my hands to watch things because you know,
Speaker 2: I got my promotion, and in my old job, you know,
Speaker 2: I had more downtime on the job once I got
Speaker 2: my work work done, so I could watch that new
Speaker 2: movie or that new series.
Speaker 1: Not so much.
Speaker 2: Now I'm actually like busy the entire time.
Speaker 1: So mixed the Nico Pastor.
Speaker 2: It really does. Like I like being busy, sure, but
Speaker 2: you know I don't get to watch it no more.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did.
Speaker 2: I never did so, And you know the stuff I
Speaker 2: would watch at work is the stuff that I couldn't
Speaker 2: watch with you, like R movies and things like that.
Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see how pop culture works from
Speaker 2: here on out.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, there are multiple seasons of Chicago pe dude,
Speaker 1: unless they start to annoy me. I mean I was
Speaker 1: watching The Closer and then we got to that episode
Speaker 1: and then I stopped, and then I was watching what
Speaker 1: else was I watching? And then I stopped.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about it last episode three different shows.
Speaker 1: You were like, no, yeah, no, we just hit a
Speaker 1: place where I went, yeah and stop. The West Wing
Speaker 1: was having a gasp and I stopped there too. I
Speaker 1: did not finish because maybe I'll go back. But it
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'm tired right now. It was too directionless.
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever.
Speaker 2: No, the West Wing, it was just depressing because it
Speaker 2: was getting to it was it was not at a
Speaker 2: place where because we're not that anymore. No that yes,
Speaker 2: but it was a I want to say they were
Speaker 2: floundering like policy wise or whatever, and I, oh, right,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to write second term bullshit whatever, And
Speaker 2: I was just like.
Speaker 1: You know what, yeah, I don't need to watch this
Speaker 1: go down. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I've watched it through
Speaker 1: more than one time, but so right, but I just
Speaker 1: went yeah, no. And then the closer was that, you know,
Speaker 1: and something else. There was another one that I stopped midstream,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, and that might happen here, right, who knows.
Speaker 2: Then I also pull you out of your series to
Speaker 2: say things like we have to watch one bad laughter another.
Speaker 1: So and we did.
Speaker 2: There's other things and I'm sure I'll do that for
Speaker 2: like I said, Bob the Drag Queen has a new
Speaker 2: stand up special on Hulu. We have to watch that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sure we will. Yeah, I think it's time
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