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Speaker 2: Welcome to you both. It's wonderful to have you.
Speaker 3: It's an odder to have you both here tonight, good evening.
Speaker 3: We are looking forward to a spirited and thoughtful debate.
Speaker 1: Well spirited and thoughtful. It was one sided pretty much.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you nailed it. She nailed it.
Speaker 1: She had to, there was too much on the line.
Speaker 4: But wow, she came right out, walked across the stage, shook,
Speaker 4: stuck out her hand, they shook. She introduced herself, pronouncing
Speaker 4: her name pointedly. He said, have fun, have fun, and
Speaker 4: then it was off to the races.
Speaker 1: It was odd there being no audience. There wasn't it.
Speaker 1: I thought it was. I mean, I get why they
Speaker 1: did that, and it made sense, and nobody got distracted
Speaker 1: and he didn't get egg down. He didn't need to.
Speaker 1: But it was like a bring your own energy kind
Speaker 1: of game. And it reminded me though of COVID times.
Speaker 1: Not having an audience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, would have been more energy in the room if
Speaker 4: there was a live audience. I felt, obviously they would
Speaker 4: have been well behaved, but it.
Speaker 1: Was so detrimental for him because all three of the
Speaker 1: other people in the room, both moderators and Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: had this calm veneer right, this calming we are the
Speaker 1: adults in the room, We're not going to get excited,
Speaker 1: and so when he started to lose it a little bit,
Speaker 1: he looked like a complete lunatic.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 4: He started off fairly well with the discussion about the economy,
Speaker 4: although it was more generalities, and then once she kicked
Speaker 4: into gear, she just left him so far behind.
Speaker 1: Let's go through some of the cuts here. She talks
Speaker 1: about his rallies when she really got under his skin.
Speaker 5: And I'm going to actually do something really unusual, and
Speaker 5: I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald
Speaker 5: Trump's rallies. We'll start leaving his rallies early out of
Speaker 5: exhaustion and boredom. And i will tell you the one
Speaker 5: thing you will not hear him talk about is you.
Speaker 5: You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams,
Speaker 5: and your need and your desires. And I'll tell you,
Speaker 5: I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first.
Speaker 5: And I pledge to you that I.
Speaker 1: Will Vice President Harris, thank you, President Trump on that point,
Speaker 1: I want to get your response.
Speaker 2: I'd like to respond.
Speaker 1: Let me just ask them, why did you try to
Speaker 1: kill that bill and successfully so? That would have put
Speaker 1: thousands of additional agents and officers on the board.
Speaker 6: Responders to the rallies, she said, people started leaving.
Speaker 2: People don't go to her rallies. There's no reason to go.
Speaker 6: And the people that do go, she's busting him in
Speaker 6: and paying them to be there and then showing them
Speaker 6: in a different light, so she can't talk about that.
Speaker 2: People don't leave my rallies.
Speaker 6: We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in
Speaker 6: the history of politics. That's because people want to take
Speaker 6: their country back. Our country is being lost. We're a
Speaker 6: failing nation.
Speaker 1: And that's really when she was able to successfully bait
Speaker 1: him into going off the rails.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the banner headlight on CNN afterwards was that Trump
Speaker 4: takes the bait every time. I think what we're looking
Speaker 4: at today is looking back on it is that most
Speaker 4: people who are fair would say, if there was a
Speaker 4: winner or a loser, that Harris was the clear winner.
Speaker 4: Now the Republicans are complaining now and immediately began complaining
Speaker 4: that it was quote three on one because the panelists,
Speaker 4: the two panelists and Harris versus Trump, and that the
Speaker 4: panels and the moderators Mirror and Davis didn't fact check
Speaker 4: Harris the way they fact checked Trump, and it was
Speaker 4: clear they were they were rooting for Harris versus Trump.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying these are the Republican talking points immediately afterwards.
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily agree with them, but I could see
Speaker 4: where they're going.
Speaker 1: I heard it described as this way, it's a football analogy, shocker,
Speaker 1: but it's the Republicans are looking at it like this. Yes,
Speaker 1: my team showed up and got its ass handed to it,
Speaker 1: but the refs were also on the other team's side.
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, you have a beef with the with
Speaker 1: the NFL, right, you've got a beef with with the
Speaker 1: referees making all the calls for the chiefs, Okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: But my team, my team didn't didn't come to play,
Speaker 1: and that's a problem too. So I can see where
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a beef with the moderators.
Speaker 1: I actually heard Democrats complaining about the moderators a little
Speaker 1: bit as well. Nobody seemed to be happy. I thought
Speaker 1: they both did a great job. And again I like
Speaker 1: their demeanor. Although I did start off I just took
Speaker 1: like running notes here on the on the iPhone, and
Speaker 1: I started off.
Speaker 3: With I like these two. And by the end it said,
Speaker 3: David Muir sucks.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You must have done something to bother me towards the end.
Speaker 4: But well, they do have a tendency to fall in
Speaker 4: love with their own words. The questions are very long.
Speaker 4: They are more statements and questions. Yes, I'd like to
Speaker 4: hear more concise questions to get more time for the answers.
Speaker 4: But I think overall, you know, looking at the various
Speaker 4: headlines from this morning from the newspapers and the websites
Speaker 4: and so forth, the tone right and the attitude.
Speaker 2: She was positive looking forward.
Speaker 4: Turned the page and he was darkness, you're letting millions
Speaker 4: of people into the country illegally.
Speaker 2: They're eating pets.
Speaker 4: And it was like the whole concept that she has defied,
Speaker 4: I think successfully of moving forward versus going back, and
Speaker 4: that and that talking point that she has We're not
Speaker 4: going back.
Speaker 1: He went to the fringes right when it was talking
Speaker 1: about rally sizes, and we're going to have to get
Speaker 1: to the eating of the pets because that's a legitimate
Speaker 1: issue what's.
Speaker 3: Going on in that town in Ohio.
Speaker 1: And he had a he had a moment to hit
Speaker 1: it out of the park with that, and he completely
Speaker 1: fell for the lowest hanging fruit. In the meantime, we
Speaker 1: are talking about, well what everyone's talking about the debate debacle.
Speaker 1: Really for Donald Trump last night couldn't have gone worse.
Speaker 1: I don't think for the Republicans. I can't think of
Speaker 1: one independent voter he wooed. I mean he it was.
Speaker 1: It was an easy thing for him to do, especially
Speaker 1: when you know, you talk about immigration, and we'll get
Speaker 1: to that. But he had this one singer Phil.
Speaker 6: Please in Minnesota. She went out, I'm talking now, you
Speaker 6: know mind Please says south.
Speaker 1: And so trying to like weaponize her whole I'm talking now.
Speaker 1: When the protesters interrupted her rally.
Speaker 2: That was his big moment. That was it. That was it.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I don't even think he picked
Speaker 1: the perfect moment to land that.
Speaker 3: I don't think it landed.
Speaker 1: But on the immigration thing, this was his chance to
Speaker 1: knock it out of the park and talk about the
Speaker 1: border and talk about all of the legitimate immigration border
Speaker 1: problems in this country, which happens to be a topic
Speaker 1: that independent voters are interested.
Speaker 2: In absolutely, especially here in California.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So, if you just take the microcosm though of Springfield,
Speaker 1: Illinois and what's going on there with all of the
Speaker 1: immigrants through the Biden administration's program that have kind of
Speaker 1: saturated that small town, and it's kind of like they've
Speaker 1: soaked up all of the services for the people that
Speaker 1: lived there for decades.
Speaker 4: Right, And this is a legitimate point that Trump could
Speaker 4: have taken advantage of to make his case about the
Speaker 4: border and out of contry role, even though these are
Speaker 4: people here with legal status exactly.
Speaker 1: But instead, the Republicans, for lack of a better term,
Speaker 1: ate themselves ate themselves over this and started to peddle
Speaker 1: this weird narrative that the Haitian immigrants are stealing dogs
Speaker 1: and cats and ducks and eating.
Speaker 4: Them from parks. And that's what resonates with people. It's
Speaker 4: so funny. Even just this morning, I'm in the elevator
Speaker 4: here in the building, coming up, and that's what one
Speaker 4: of the comments from a fellow passenger was, like, jokingly,
Speaker 4: I'm going to go, you know, have some ducks.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go eat some ducks.
Speaker 1: I texted a friend this morning. I said, I'm getting
Speaker 1: my puppy ready for breakfast. So, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: but it's awful and it's ridiculous that people believe this.
Speaker 1: But last night Trump doubled down on it.
Speaker 2: In Springfield.
Speaker 6: They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're
Speaker 6: eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of
Speaker 6: the people that live there. And this is what's happening
Speaker 6: in our country, and it's a.
Speaker 3: Game unhinged, right.
Speaker 4: So then David Muir, the moderator from ABC, said, well,
Speaker 4: I checked with the city manager there and there are
Speaker 4: no credible reports of that happening. And then Trump said,
Speaker 4: well I saw it on TV and then, which is
Speaker 4: like typical, right, right, And then he said, well, I
Speaker 4: got it from the city manager. We're not talking about
Speaker 4: what was on TV, which is kind of an indictment
Speaker 4: of TV in a way. But it was sort of
Speaker 4: right wingers there that were complaining publicly and it went
Speaker 4: viral on the internet. At one a city council meeting
Speaker 4: where some people were making that allegation, the unfounded allegation,
Speaker 4: and that's what was picked up by conservative media and
Speaker 4: retweeted and rebroadcast everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're making jokes in the elevator texting. The
Speaker 1: memes are great, the ai of Trump running away from
Speaker 1: Haitian immigrants with a cat under each arm. But let's
Speaker 1: just pump the brakes on the humor.
Speaker 3: For a minute.
Speaker 1: This is a person running for president that is legitimately
Speaker 1: trying to float the narrative that people are eating pets.
Speaker 2: And that's the best he can do is does he
Speaker 2: believe that truly? Because that's a problem. But so then
Speaker 2: that's the question of this.
Speaker 7: How is he's preaching to his base, people who have
Speaker 7: drunk the ko leade Yes, people who look at him
Speaker 7: as like a demigod. And he didn't need to do
Speaker 7: that last night, right, And so the challenge for him
Speaker 7: when we talked about this yesterday was to expand that
Speaker 7: base and convince people that he can be quote normal,
Speaker 7: which seems like a fairly low bar to set, and
Speaker 7: he didn't do that. And her challenge was to convince
Speaker 7: people that she can be the commander in chief and
Speaker 7: she's ready for the job.
Speaker 2: And I think most analysts say that she did.
Speaker 1: That well, and there is the whole narrative about him
Speaker 1: being now the old candidate.
Speaker 3: He has fallen off.
Speaker 1: If you watch his debate performances from four years well,
Speaker 1: eight years ago, the Hillary Clinton debates, you know that
Speaker 1: is a different person even from four years ago.
Speaker 3: And the same thing happened with Biden, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Europe.
Speaker 3: But he's seventy to seventy eight.
Speaker 4: But nobody's really giving him that kind of same kind
Speaker 4: of scrutiny about the age that they did with Biden
Speaker 4: right before I said goodbye.
Speaker 1: He's not able to crystallize his points anymore.
Speaker 2: They kind of ramble. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, the best example was that one about childcare from
Speaker 4: New York from a week or so ago.
Speaker 2: They didn't get into that. I mean, here's a thing.
Speaker 4: ABC builled this as quote the most consequential moment of
Speaker 4: this campaign. So it was consequential. I'm not sure was
Speaker 4: the most consequential. There's still what fifty four fifty five
Speaker 4: days left, and a lot can happen. There's discussion. Now
Speaker 4: they're gonna have a second debate. Yes, no, she wants to,
Speaker 4: he wants to. She doesn't want to. He doesn't want to.
Speaker 4: It's interesting today. You know, in nine to eleven, they're
Speaker 4: all side by side in New York City, right first ceremonies.
Speaker 1: It was Biden, it was Trump, and it was Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: They're all in the same frame and a remembrance for
Speaker 1: victims of nine eleven, twenty third anniversary family members were
Speaker 1: gathering with local leaders there in Lower Manhattan for the
Speaker 1: annual reading of the victims' names. Six moments of silence,
Speaker 1: of course, to mark when both the World Trade Center
Speaker 1: towers struck and fell, Pentagon was attacked, and then Flight
Speaker 1: ninety three crash in Pennsylvania. But yeah, odd and odd
Speaker 1: picture freeze frame of Donald Trump kind of reaching across
Speaker 1: Joe Biden to shake hands with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: Just kind of an odd place to be, all.
Speaker 1: Right, when we come back, I do want to get
Speaker 1: into how Trump called her out on copying and pasting
Speaker 1: Biden's policy on the economy and his like decades old
Speaker 1: reference to a book. We are talking about the debate.
Speaker 1: Phil Schuman hanging out with me today and I wanted
Speaker 1: to get to Donald Trump saying that the Biden Harris
Speaker 1: administration has erecked the economy, and he threw in a
Speaker 1: reference to a nineteen forty eight book.
Speaker 6: She doesn't have a plan beat Biden's plan, and it's
Speaker 6: like four sentences like run spot run, four sentences that
Speaker 6: are just, oh, we'll try at lower taxes.
Speaker 2: She doesn't have a plan. Take a look at her plan.
Speaker 2: She doesn't have a plan. That was three words.
Speaker 1: C Spot Run was a book from nineteen forty eight.
Speaker 1: I did the math. Donald Trump was two years old
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty eight, so chances are his parents or
Speaker 1: whoever took care of him read that book to him.
Speaker 1: Kind of a nostalgic moment from five hundred years ago.
Speaker 4: The same parent that gave him four hundred million dollars
Speaker 4: on a silver platter, only to have him declared bankruptcy
Speaker 4: six times.
Speaker 1: That sounds nice. Rich people always declare bankruptcy. Though there's
Speaker 1: something there. There's more of a business strategy, right. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing. He was critical, defensive, combative. She was
Speaker 1: trying to raise the level of discussion. I think, talking
Speaker 1: about the future, trying to be positive turning the page,
Speaker 1: and the divisiveness set a more upbeat tone.
Speaker 4: And I think that's really one of the big takeaways.
Speaker 4: You know, it's always fun the day after all, the
Speaker 4: analysts look at four takeaways from the debate, five takeaways six.
Speaker 4: But I think the main thing was that she was
Speaker 4: positive talking about the future, and he was his usual
Speaker 4: defensive self with the insults.
Speaker 1: She also was able to position herself as an ordinary
Speaker 1: person talking about being raised as a middle class kid.
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton lacked that on the debate stage, where she
Speaker 1: appeared to be not somebody who actually keeps hot sauce
Speaker 1: in her purse, she appeared to be somebody who was
Speaker 1: talking over everybody. Kamala Harris and her elocution coach nailed
Speaker 1: it when it came to the tone of talking to
Speaker 1: people or talking to the screen or what have you,
Speaker 1: in a way that was I am just like you,
Speaker 1: I'm one of you.
Speaker 3: I've lived in the real world.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: She's made that one of her most important sort of
Speaker 4: points during any discussion about her background, her mom, her dad.
Speaker 4: She said at least three times, I was raised a
Speaker 4: middle class kid. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you could fail at what Donald
Speaker 1: Trump failed at last night, and talking about the economy,
Speaker 1: talking about grocery prices, talking about the border, the porous border,
Speaker 1: highlighting the facts that Republicans often go to when they
Speaker 1: talk about Biden's failures as president, just repeat that stuff right.
Speaker 4: Well, we talked about that, right, border crime, immigration, and
Speaker 4: instead he went right to they're letting millions of people
Speaker 4: into this country, criminals, the crime rates in Venezuela have plummeted.
Speaker 4: Went right to that, and again we talked about expanding
Speaker 4: his base.
Speaker 2: It didn't happen. He's just throwing out red meat to
Speaker 2: his followers.
Speaker 1: The other thing that I don't think helps him and
Speaker 1: going to the total fringe right of an argument, just
Speaker 1: like the Haitian immigrants eating.
Speaker 3: The pets, is abortion.
Speaker 1: He continually says that Democrats are having babies, set up
Speaker 1: them aside and then deciding to kill them, or that
Speaker 1: they're having abortions in the ninth month or what happened.
Speaker 1: That's just not happening, and you're not doing yourself any favor.
Speaker 1: If you want a debate abortion, have that debate. But
Speaker 1: when you go to the fringe of executing babies, yes,
Speaker 1: when you go to executing babies and.
Speaker 4: Then lose it, Lindsay Davis correctly said there's not one
Speaker 4: state in the country where it's legal to execute a
Speaker 4: baby after birth. And this is why the Republicans were
Speaker 4: critical of the debate moderators for quote fact checking Trump.
Speaker 2: You can't let that go. You can't let that go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a cut on that. About their back
Speaker 1: and forth on abortion, Will she.
Speaker 6: Allow abortion in the eighth month, ninth month, seventh month?
Speaker 2: Okay, would you do that? Why don't you ask that question?
Speaker 2: That's the question, the question.
Speaker 6: You could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month,
Speaker 6: the ninth month, and probably after birth. Just look at
Speaker 6: the governor, former governor of Virginia. The governor of Virginia said,
Speaker 6: we put the baby aside and then we determine what we.
Speaker 2: Want to do with a baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't do you any any favors if you
Speaker 1: want to have a legitimate abortion debate or conversation.
Speaker 4: I thought her plea for reproductive rights, her defensive reproductive rights,
Speaker 4: I think was probably one of the most powerful moments
Speaker 4: of the ninety plus minutes.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting the way it started. She
Speaker 1: appeared to be a little nervous, Her voice was a
Speaker 1: little wavering. You think I also think, and I think
Speaker 1: this with every debate, or really it's obvious in debates
Speaker 1: is when you're watching it, you have one impression. When
Speaker 1: you're listening to the clips the next day, it's a
Speaker 1: different feeling. Her voice did not bother me at all
Speaker 1: last night. I mean, let's just be honest. They both
Speaker 1: looked great. The glam squads showed up. His hair was
Speaker 1: toned down. It wasn't that brassy I used sun in
Speaker 1: this morning all in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3: It was toned down.
Speaker 1: It was toned his hair was and she looked beautiful,
Speaker 1: I mean, just incredible. But she did come out of
Speaker 1: the gate a little bit. I thought a little nervous.
Speaker 1: You thought so, yeah, but she quickly stopped the quiver
Speaker 1: in her voice. It was only maybe thirty forty five
Speaker 1: seconds or something like that. But hearing back some of
Speaker 1: the clips this morning, and I have no I have
Speaker 1: no no ground to stand on here, because I know
Speaker 1: my voice can be very grating.
Speaker 3: And annoying as well.
Speaker 2: No, that's not true.
Speaker 1: It did come across a little bit more whiny, I guess.
Speaker 2: But I think that she's done very well.
Speaker 4: We talked about this yesterday in improving her presentation, prediction,
Speaker 4: her style of speaking. Remember, she was criticized for that
Speaker 4: term word salad she would say kay a lot.
Speaker 1: If you look at old clips, she doesn't do any
Speaker 1: of that. There were were no filler words. I noticed
Speaker 1: that as well. Excellent point. I kept waiting for an
Speaker 1: um or the saying something without saying anything.
Speaker 4: And I was thinking, like, this is what she rehearsed. Yes,
Speaker 4: and it seemed like the preparation served her very well.
Speaker 1: She reminded me of what I could have done if
Speaker 1: I studied for one test in school, Like if I
Speaker 1: just focused my nose to the grindstone is at the right,
Speaker 1: If I just did that once, I could have gotten a's.
Speaker 3: But I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was Donald Trump and I just winged my reeling school.
Speaker 3: And it's just awful.
Speaker 2: What did you spend your time doing?
Speaker 3: Uh, well, that's another show, Phil.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, it's just obvious that she studied
Speaker 1: and that she was holed up in that and it showed.
Speaker 3: It showed.
Speaker 4: And I don't think he came in totally unprepared, but
Speaker 4: he went right to his main talking points and exaggerations.
Speaker 4: And look, if you're listening to us right now, by
Speaker 4: the way, should we mention the talkback feature?
Speaker 2: You know, we're giving our opinions. We've heard other people's opinions.
Speaker 4: You can click the microphone on the iHeartRadio app and
Speaker 4: send us a message, and we'd love to play some
Speaker 4: of the good ones, so make them good. And it
Speaker 4: just it just seemed like he went right to the
Speaker 4: same old thing. And that's what she said. You know,
Speaker 4: we're not gonna I'm tired of We're tired of the
Speaker 4: same old playbook. Look, if you're listening to this, you're
Speaker 4: thinking me and you, Shannon and I are like rooting
Speaker 4: for Harris. That's not the case. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: we're trying to be objective. If she had not done
Speaker 4: well and Trump had dominated, we would be giving him
Speaker 4: credit today.
Speaker 2: Why but it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Why didn't he talk about the things that terrify me,
Speaker 1: like the socialism and the redistribution of wealth's all of
Speaker 1: that and marked and well he did say that her
Speaker 1: father was a Marxist professor, but she didn't touch it.
Speaker 3: Nobody touched it, which was smart.
Speaker 1: But if you're a conservative voter, a true conservative Republican,
Speaker 1: you wanted him to be a conservative Republican last night
Speaker 1: and be conservative with his comments, and he just did
Speaker 1: not hit any balls even close to out.
Speaker 2: Of the park. Yeah, a lot of singles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your might there.
Speaker 2: S Yeah, a lot of singles.
Speaker 4: And we talked about this yesterday, and looking ahead is
Speaker 4: that Harris had more to gain than he had to lose,
Speaker 4: and I think she succeeded in gaining that. There was
Speaker 4: that whole discussion about people want to know more about her,
Speaker 4: People want to learn more about what she's about and
Speaker 4: what she's like, and I think she gave them the
Speaker 4: opportunity to do that when she talked about abortion, she
Speaker 4: talked about herself and that whole middle class thing. We
Speaker 4: know it already because this is what we do twenty
Speaker 4: four to seven. But for the casual observer, I think
Speaker 4: they might have learned something last night from her and
Speaker 4: not from him.
Speaker 1: Well, we were talking off the air about Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, I went to one of her
Speaker 1: concerts up at Levi's and it was bedlam, just complete mayhem.
Speaker 3: It was insanity.
Speaker 1: I've been there for NFC Championship games and it wasn't
Speaker 1: even close to as crazy as it was for the
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift concert I went to. I mean, the entire
Speaker 1: stadium was you would have thought it was a seven
Speaker 1: point six earthquake. The entire time, nobody sat down. It
Speaker 1: was just it was the Beatles, it was Elvis, it
Speaker 1: was crazy. It's a huge amount of people who consider
Speaker 1: themselves swifties. And last night Kamala Harris picked up Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift's endorsement.
Speaker 4: Absolutely right afterwards too, and one of the interesting headlines
Speaker 4: was the debate was the earthquake and the Taylor Swift
Speaker 4: endorsement was the aftershock. Funny and so people say, so
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift endorsed her, not a surprise, big deal.
Speaker 2: It is a big deal. She has we looked it
Speaker 2: up right.
Speaker 4: She has more than two hundred million followers on social media,
Speaker 4: mainly track and Instagram, which is, you know, not near
Speaker 4: even in the top ten, believe it or not. But
Speaker 4: Georgia was decided by eleven thousand votes four years ago.
Speaker 2: So the.
Speaker 4: Point is if she can translate that endorsement into young
Speaker 4: people getting out and voting, that could change the election.
Speaker 1: That endorsement meant more than the debate. Debates don't win elections.
Speaker 1: People have short memories. Yes, the news cycle has been
Speaker 1: won by Kamala Harris, but in this day and age
Speaker 1: of the news cycle lasting about oh i don't know,
Speaker 1: twelve to twenty four hours. We're going to be onto
Speaker 1: something next week. This glow up is not going to
Speaker 1: last very long. But the endorsement of Taylor Swift that
Speaker 1: is going to carry a lot of votes with it.
Speaker 1: I would assume.
Speaker 4: Well, the age group eighteen to twenty four historically has
Speaker 4: been the lowest group in terms of voter turnout rates.
Speaker 4: Since I printed out a chart actually in anticipating this
Speaker 4: this morning, voter turnout rates among age groups in presidential
Speaker 4: elections going back to nineteen sixty four, and the age
Speaker 4: group eighteen to twenty four has the lowest voter turnout
Speaker 4: compared to twenty five to forty four, forty five to
Speaker 4: sixty four, and sixty five plus, which is the highest.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 4: The endorsement translates into people registering, into people voting, into
Speaker 4: Harris winning, and a place in the cabinet for Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: This will be the secretary of music.
Speaker 1: Okay, look at you research, good job, thank you.
Speaker 3: I like it when people can.
Speaker 2: Do that's what's interesting.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not okay, great, Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4: Not a big shock, right, But what if Travis Kelcey
Speaker 4: endorses Trump.
Speaker 2: Now we have a story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then you have the NFL against Taylor Swift and.
Speaker 3: A romance gone wrong. But yeah, I mean, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1: That particular voting block was a struggle for Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: He was not pulling thirty four year olds at all
Speaker 1: at all, and she was able to make up headway.
Speaker 1: And now with this, I'm anxious to see what the
Speaker 1: polling says next week, if there is a dynamic change there,
Speaker 1: or even seeing the voter registration. Now, there's probably a
Speaker 1: lot of these kids. I mean, I don't know you
Speaker 1: have young kids, but a lot of the generation that's
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, they don't even want their driver's licenses. So
Speaker 1: have they registered yet? And will they mobilize? And it
Speaker 1: will it be as massive as it could be when
Speaker 1: you think about, well, we live in more so than
Speaker 1: in recent years.
Speaker 4: We live in this culture of celebrity, right, And there's
Speaker 4: obviously a long history of celebrities endorsing political candidates, but
Speaker 4: I think this one really might take it to another level.
Speaker 4: And it's not just I mean, we love Taylor Swift, right,
Speaker 4: who doesn't love Taylor Swift? And it's not that she
Speaker 4: is like a fan of Harris. I mean, you think
Speaker 4: she actually puts some thought into it, right, Like many
Speaker 4: of you, I watched the debate tonight. Referring to last night,
Speaker 4: I will be casting by vote for Kamala Harrison, Tim Waltz.
Speaker 4: I'm voting because she fights for the rights and pauses
Speaker 4: I believe need a warrior to champion them. And then
Speaker 4: how did she sign the post? Of course childless cat lady,
Speaker 4: so a dig against jd vance of course about women
Speaker 4: without children.
Speaker 1: She said, we can accomplish more in this country if
Speaker 1: we're led by calm and not chaos. And I think
Speaker 1: that kind of encapsulated the debate last night. There was
Speaker 1: the calm and then there was the off the reservation.
Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to say that's racist now, right, there
Speaker 1: was a there was calm.
Speaker 4: No, that's a great way to describe it, com versus chaos.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm on team calm on politics. In life,
Speaker 4: we're of a lover, not a fighter.
Speaker 3: That's beautiful.
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