WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:07.240 on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:09.039 Welcome to you both. It's wonderful to have you. 5 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:11.359 It's an odder to have you both here tonight, good evening. 6 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:14.439 We are looking forward to a spirited and thoughtful debate. 7 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:20.719 Well spirited and thoughtful. It was one sided pretty much. 8 00:00:20.879 --> 00:00:22.879 I mean, I think you nailed it. She nailed it. 9 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:25.679 She had to, there was too much on the line. 10 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:30.120 But wow, she came right out, walked across the stage, shook, 11 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:34.079 stuck out her hand, they shook. She introduced herself, pronouncing 12 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:37.719 her name pointedly. He said, have fun, have fun, and 13 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:38.960 then it was off to the races. 14 00:00:39.079 --> 00:00:41.840 It was odd there being no audience. There wasn't it. 15 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:43.600 I thought it was. I mean, I get why they 16 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:46.280 did that, and it made sense, and nobody got distracted 17 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:48.200 and he didn't get egg down. He didn't need to. 18 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:50.320 But it was like a bring your own energy kind 19 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:54.719 of game. And it reminded me though of COVID times. 20 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:55.679 Not having an audience. 21 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:57.719 Yeah, would have been more energy in the room if 22 00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:00.359 there was a live audience. I felt, obviously they would 23 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:01.840 have been well behaved, but it. 24 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:04.560 Was so detrimental for him because all three of the 25 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:07.560 other people in the room, both moderators and Kamala Harris, 26 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:11.439 had this calm veneer right, this calming we are the 27 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.200 adults in the room, We're not going to get excited, 28 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:17.000 and so when he started to lose it a little bit, 29 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:19.159 he looked like a complete lunatic. 30 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:20.959 Well, here's the thing. 31 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:25.599 He started off fairly well with the discussion about the economy, 32 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:28.920 although it was more generalities, and then once she kicked 33 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:31.599 into gear, she just left him so far behind. 34 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:34.480 Let's go through some of the cuts here. She talks 35 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:37.560 about his rallies when she really got under his skin. 36 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.000 And I'm going to actually do something really unusual, and 37 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.560 I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald 38 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:46.200 Trump's rallies. We'll start leaving his rallies early out of 39 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:49.280 exhaustion and boredom. And i will tell you the one 40 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:52.079 thing you will not hear him talk about is you. 41 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:54.680 You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams, 42 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:57.439 and your need and your desires. And I'll tell you, 43 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:01.640 I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first. 44 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:02.959 And I pledge to you that I. 45 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:05.560 Will Vice President Harris, thank you, President Trump on that point, 46 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:06.480 I want to get your response. 47 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:07.280 I'd like to respond. 48 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:09.080 Let me just ask them, why did you try to 49 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:11.280 kill that bill and successfully so? That would have put 50 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:13.639 thousands of additional agents and officers on the board. 51 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:17.319 Responders to the rallies, she said, people started leaving. 52 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:19.599 People don't go to her rallies. There's no reason to go. 53 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:22.520 And the people that do go, she's busting him in 54 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:26.080 and paying them to be there and then showing them 55 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:28.919 in a different light, so she can't talk about that. 56 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:30.240 People don't leave my rallies. 57 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:32.840 We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in 58 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:35.599 the history of politics. That's because people want to take 59 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:39.159 their country back. Our country is being lost. We're a 60 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:39.919 failing nation. 61 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:44.680 And that's really when she was able to successfully bait 62 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:46.680 him into going off the rails. 63 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:49.879 Yeah, the banner headlight on CNN afterwards was that Trump 64 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:53.319 takes the bait every time. I think what we're looking 65 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:56.960 at today is looking back on it is that most 66 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:59.639 people who are fair would say, if there was a 67 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:03.759 winner or a loser, that Harris was the clear winner. 68 00:03:04.199 --> 00:03:08.120 Now the Republicans are complaining now and immediately began complaining 69 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:11.400 that it was quote three on one because the panelists, 70 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:14.039 the two panelists and Harris versus Trump, and that the 71 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:18.800 panels and the moderators Mirror and Davis didn't fact check 72 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:21.599 Harris the way they fact checked Trump, and it was 73 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:25.280 clear they were they were rooting for Harris versus Trump. 74 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:28.919 I'm just saying these are the Republican talking points immediately afterwards. 75 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:30.840 I don't necessarily agree with them, but I could see 76 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:31.479 where they're going. 77 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:35.240 I heard it described as this way, it's a football analogy, shocker, 78 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:39.960 but it's the Republicans are looking at it like this. Yes, 79 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:43.199 my team showed up and got its ass handed to it, 80 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:46.520 but the refs were also on the other team's side. 81 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:48.560 It's like, yes, you have a beef with the with 82 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:50.759 the NFL, right, you've got a beef with with the 83 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:54.319 referees making all the calls for the chiefs, Okay, whatever, 84 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:58.560 But my team, my team didn't didn't come to play, 85 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:01.479 and that's a problem too. So I can see where 86 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:04.000 there was a little bit of a beef with the moderators. 87 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:07.280 I actually heard Democrats complaining about the moderators a little 88 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:09.039 bit as well. Nobody seemed to be happy. I thought 89 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:10.919 they both did a great job. And again I like 90 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:14.000 their demeanor. Although I did start off I just took 91 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:16.399 like running notes here on the on the iPhone, and 92 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:17.160 I started off. 93 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:19.360 With I like these two. And by the end it said, 94 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:20.920 David Muir sucks. 95 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:21.600 Why. 96 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:23.000 I don't know. 97 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:25.240 You must have done something to bother me towards the end. 98 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:27.839 But well, they do have a tendency to fall in 99 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:30.519 love with their own words. The questions are very long. 100 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:32.920 They are more statements and questions. Yes, I'd like to 101 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:36.120 hear more concise questions to get more time for the answers. 102 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:38.600 But I think overall, you know, looking at the various 103 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:41.600 headlines from this morning from the newspapers and the websites 104 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:46.079 and so forth, the tone right and the attitude. 105 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:48.759 She was positive looking forward. 106 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:52.120 Turned the page and he was darkness, you're letting millions 107 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:53.600 of people into the country illegally. 108 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:55.040 They're eating pets. 109 00:04:56.399 --> 00:05:00.000 And it was like the whole concept that she has defied, 110 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:04.240 I think successfully of moving forward versus going back, and 111 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:06.439 that and that talking point that she has We're not 112 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:07.240 going back. 113 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:11.160 He went to the fringes right when it was talking 114 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:13.040 about rally sizes, and we're going to have to get 115 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:15.560 to the eating of the pets because that's a legitimate 116 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:16.519 issue what's. 117 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:18.199 Going on in that town in Ohio. 118 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:21.720 And he had a he had a moment to hit 119 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:24.319 it out of the park with that, and he completely 120 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.040 fell for the lowest hanging fruit. In the meantime, we 121 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:31.439 are talking about, well what everyone's talking about the debate debacle. 122 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:34.720 Really for Donald Trump last night couldn't have gone worse. 123 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:36.639 I don't think for the Republicans. I can't think of 124 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:41.360 one independent voter he wooed. I mean he it was. 125 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:44.959 It was an easy thing for him to do, especially 126 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:47.959 when you know, you talk about immigration, and we'll get 127 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:52.279 to that. But he had this one singer Phil. 128 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:57.879 Please in Minnesota. She went out, I'm talking now, you 129 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:00.040 know mind Please says south. 130 00:05:59.879 --> 00:06:03.920 And so trying to like weaponize her whole I'm talking now. 131 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:09.000 When the protesters interrupted her rally. 132 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:11.560 That was his big moment. That was it. That was it. 133 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:13.480 And you know what, I don't even think he picked 134 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:15.040 the perfect moment to land that. 135 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:16.279 I don't think it landed. 136 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:20.079 But on the immigration thing, this was his chance to 137 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:21.920 knock it out of the park and talk about the 138 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:26.040 border and talk about all of the legitimate immigration border 139 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:29.439 problems in this country, which happens to be a topic 140 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:32.360 that independent voters are interested. 141 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:34.000 In absolutely, especially here in California. 142 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:34.360 Right. 143 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:38.160 So, if you just take the microcosm though of Springfield, 144 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:40.480 Illinois and what's going on there with all of the 145 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:43.519 immigrants through the Biden administration's program that have kind of 146 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.480 saturated that small town, and it's kind of like they've 147 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.160 soaked up all of the services for the people that 148 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:52.920 lived there for decades. 149 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:55.360 Right, And this is a legitimate point that Trump could 150 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:58.839 have taken advantage of to make his case about the 151 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:00.839 border and out of contry role, even though these are 152 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.399 people here with legal status exactly. 153 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:06.519 But instead, the Republicans, for lack of a better term, 154 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:11.240 ate themselves ate themselves over this and started to peddle 155 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:15.600 this weird narrative that the Haitian immigrants are stealing dogs 156 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:18.000 and cats and ducks and eating. 157 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.680 Them from parks. And that's what resonates with people. It's 158 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:23.480 so funny. Even just this morning, I'm in the elevator 159 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:26.680 here in the building, coming up, and that's what one 160 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.959 of the comments from a fellow passenger was, like, jokingly, 161 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:32.519 I'm going to go, you know, have some ducks. 162 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:33.759 I'm going to go eat some ducks. 163 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:35.800 I texted a friend this morning. I said, I'm getting 164 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:38.160 my puppy ready for breakfast. So, you know, I mean, 165 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:41.079 but it's awful and it's ridiculous that people believe this. 166 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:43.360 But last night Trump doubled down on it. 167 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:46.240 In Springfield. 168 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.000 They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're 169 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:54.600 eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of 170 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:58.240 the people that live there. And this is what's happening 171 00:07:58.399 --> 00:07:59.839 in our country, and it's a. 172 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:03.199 Game unhinged, right. 173 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:07.560 So then David Muir, the moderator from ABC, said, well, 174 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:10.000 I checked with the city manager there and there are 175 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:13.079 no credible reports of that happening. And then Trump said, 176 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:15.680 well I saw it on TV and then, which is 177 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:18.360 like typical, right, right, And then he said, well, I 178 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:20.360 got it from the city manager. We're not talking about 179 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:23.360 what was on TV, which is kind of an indictment 180 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:26.519 of TV in a way. But it was sort of 181 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:30.199 right wingers there that were complaining publicly and it went 182 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.639 viral on the internet. At one a city council meeting 183 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:37.440 where some people were making that allegation, the unfounded allegation, 184 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:40.600 and that's what was picked up by conservative media and 185 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:42.759 retweeted and rebroadcast everywhere. 186 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:47.360 Yeah, and we're making jokes in the elevator texting. The 187 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:50.399 memes are great, the ai of Trump running away from 188 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:53.840 Haitian immigrants with a cat under each arm. But let's 189 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:55.679 just pump the brakes on the humor. 190 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:56.120 For a minute. 191 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:59.919 This is a person running for president that is legitimately 192 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:03.879 trying to float the narrative that people are eating pets. 193 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:05.480 And that's the best he can do is does he 194 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:08.240 believe that truly? Because that's a problem. But so then 195 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:09.120 that's the question of this. 196 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:12.720 How is he's preaching to his base, people who have 197 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:14.759 drunk the ko leade Yes, people who look at him 198 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:16.639 as like a demigod. And he didn't need to do 199 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:19.240 that last night, right, And so the challenge for him 200 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:22.440 when we talked about this yesterday was to expand that 201 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:25.840 base and convince people that he can be quote normal, 202 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:28.679 which seems like a fairly low bar to set, and 203 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:31.320 he didn't do that. And her challenge was to convince 204 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:34.279 people that she can be the commander in chief and 205 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:35.759 she's ready for the job. 206 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:38.799 And I think most analysts say that she did. 207 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:44.039 That well, and there is the whole narrative about him 208 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:46.519 being now the old candidate. 209 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:48.440 He has fallen off. 210 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:52.080 If you watch his debate performances from four years well, 211 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.279 eight years ago, the Hillary Clinton debates, you know that 212 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:57.879 is a different person even from four years ago. 213 00:09:57.919 --> 00:09:59.840 And the same thing happened with Biden, you. 214 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:00.759 Know, Europe. 215 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:02.480 But he's seventy to seventy eight. 216 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:05.039 But nobody's really giving him that kind of same kind 217 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.360 of scrutiny about the age that they did with Biden 218 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:08.759 right before I said goodbye. 219 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:11.559 He's not able to crystallize his points anymore. 220 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:13.320 They kind of ramble. Yeah. 221 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:15.919 Well, the best example was that one about childcare from 222 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:17.360 New York from a week or so ago. 223 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:20.279 They didn't get into that. I mean, here's a thing. 224 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.679 ABC builled this as quote the most consequential moment of 225 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:29.039 this campaign. So it was consequential. I'm not sure was 226 00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:32.519 the most consequential. There's still what fifty four fifty five 227 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:35.000 days left, and a lot can happen. There's discussion. Now 228 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:38.120 they're gonna have a second debate. Yes, no, she wants to, 229 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:40.360 he wants to. She doesn't want to. He doesn't want to. 230 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:43.559 It's interesting today. You know, in nine to eleven, they're 231 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:47.919 all side by side in New York City, right first ceremonies. 232 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:51.679 It was Biden, it was Trump, and it was Kamala Harris. 233 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:55.440 They're all in the same frame and a remembrance for 234 00:10:55.519 --> 00:11:00.120 victims of nine eleven, twenty third anniversary family members were 235 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:02.639 gathering with local leaders there in Lower Manhattan for the 236 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:07.120 annual reading of the victims' names. Six moments of silence, 237 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.320 of course, to mark when both the World Trade Center 238 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:12.559 towers struck and fell, Pentagon was attacked, and then Flight 239 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:16.360 ninety three crash in Pennsylvania. But yeah, odd and odd 240 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:20.159 picture freeze frame of Donald Trump kind of reaching across 241 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:22.960 Joe Biden to shake hands with Kamala Harris. 242 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:25.399 Just kind of an odd place to be, all. 243 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:28.399 Right, when we come back, I do want to get 244 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:33.600 into how Trump called her out on copying and pasting 245 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:37.600 Biden's policy on the economy and his like decades old 246 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:41.759 reference to a book. We are talking about the debate. 247 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.519 Phil Schuman hanging out with me today and I wanted 248 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:48.960 to get to Donald Trump saying that the Biden Harris 249 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:53.200 administration has erecked the economy, and he threw in a 250 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:56.919 reference to a nineteen forty eight book. 251 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:02.200 She doesn't have a plan beat Biden's plan, and it's 252 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:07.480 like four sentences like run spot run, four sentences that 253 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.960 are just, oh, we'll try at lower taxes. 254 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:12.080 She doesn't have a plan. Take a look at her plan. 255 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:15.759 She doesn't have a plan. That was three words. 256 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:19.360 C Spot Run was a book from nineteen forty eight. 257 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:22.799 I did the math. Donald Trump was two years old 258 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:25.759 in nineteen forty eight, so chances are his parents or 259 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:28.759 whoever took care of him read that book to him. 260 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.919 Kind of a nostalgic moment from five hundred years ago. 261 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:34.039 The same parent that gave him four hundred million dollars 262 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:36.639 on a silver platter, only to have him declared bankruptcy 263 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:37.240 six times. 264 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:40.279 That sounds nice. Rich people always declare bankruptcy. Though there's 265 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:43.879 something there. There's more of a business strategy, right. But 266 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:50.960 here's the thing. He was critical, defensive, combative. She was 267 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:54.519 trying to raise the level of discussion. I think, talking 268 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:57.440 about the future, trying to be positive turning the page, 269 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:01.120 and the divisiveness set a more upbeat tone. 270 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:03.840 And I think that's really one of the big takeaways. 271 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:05.639 You know, it's always fun the day after all, the 272 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:08.960 analysts look at four takeaways from the debate, five takeaways six. 273 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:11.039 But I think the main thing was that she was 274 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:14.440 positive talking about the future, and he was his usual 275 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:16.159 defensive self with the insults. 276 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:21.559 She also was able to position herself as an ordinary 277 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:24.559 person talking about being raised as a middle class kid. 278 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:28.639 Hillary Clinton lacked that on the debate stage, where she 279 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:32.559 appeared to be not somebody who actually keeps hot sauce 280 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:35.159 in her purse, she appeared to be somebody who was 281 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:40.399 talking over everybody. Kamala Harris and her elocution coach nailed 282 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:43.559 it when it came to the tone of talking to 283 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.759 people or talking to the screen or what have you, 284 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:49.399 in a way that was I am just like you, 285 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:50.240 I'm one of you. 286 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:51.720 I've lived in the real world. 287 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:52.200 Yeah. 288 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:54.559 She's made that one of her most important sort of 289 00:13:54.720 --> 00:14:00.240 points during any discussion about her background, her mom, her dad. 290 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:02.919 She said at least three times, I was raised a 291 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:05.879 middle class kid. I don't know why. 292 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.320 I don't know how you could fail at what Donald 293 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:12.240 Trump failed at last night, and talking about the economy, 294 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:17.039 talking about grocery prices, talking about the border, the porous border, 295 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:21.399 highlighting the facts that Republicans often go to when they 296 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:25.440 talk about Biden's failures as president, just repeat that stuff right. 297 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:30.759 Well, we talked about that, right, border crime, immigration, and 298 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:35.039 instead he went right to they're letting millions of people 299 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:39.080 into this country, criminals, the crime rates in Venezuela have plummeted. 300 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:43.240 Went right to that, and again we talked about expanding 301 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:43.679 his base. 302 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:46.399 It didn't happen. He's just throwing out red meat to 303 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:47.159 his followers. 304 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.240 The other thing that I don't think helps him and 305 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:52.639 going to the total fringe right of an argument, just 306 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:54.600 like the Haitian immigrants eating. 307 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:55.360 The pets, is abortion. 308 00:14:55.879 --> 00:15:00.000 He continually says that Democrats are having babies, set up 309 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.480 them aside and then deciding to kill them, or that 310 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:05.519 they're having abortions in the ninth month or what happened. 311 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:08.840 That's just not happening, and you're not doing yourself any favor. 312 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:12.080 If you want a debate abortion, have that debate. But 313 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:14.960 when you go to the fringe of executing babies, yes, 314 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:16.639 when you go to executing babies and. 315 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.120 Then lose it, Lindsay Davis correctly said there's not one 316 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:23.440 state in the country where it's legal to execute a 317 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:26.639 baby after birth. And this is why the Republicans were 318 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:30.720 critical of the debate moderators for quote fact checking Trump. 319 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:33.320 You can't let that go. You can't let that go. 320 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:35.879 Yeah, we have a cut on that. About their back 321 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:37.720 and forth on abortion, Will she. 322 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:41.159 Allow abortion in the eighth month, ninth month, seventh month? 323 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:44.679 Okay, would you do that? Why don't you ask that question? 324 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:48.120 That's the question, the question. 325 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:52.080 You could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, 326 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:55.639 the ninth month, and probably after birth. Just look at 327 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:59.919 the governor, former governor of Virginia. The governor of Virginia said, 328 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.559 we put the baby aside and then we determine what we. 329 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:03.559 Want to do with a baby. 330 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:07.279 Yeah, that doesn't do you any any favors if you 331 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:10.279 want to have a legitimate abortion debate or conversation. 332 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:14.799 I thought her plea for reproductive rights, her defensive reproductive rights, 333 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:18.200 I think was probably one of the most powerful moments 334 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:19.879 of the ninety plus minutes. 335 00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:22.960 I thought it was interesting the way it started. She 336 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:25.600 appeared to be a little nervous, Her voice was a 337 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:29.120 little wavering. You think I also think, and I think 338 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:34.000 this with every debate, or really it's obvious in debates 339 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:37.799 is when you're watching it, you have one impression. When 340 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.720 you're listening to the clips the next day, it's a 341 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:44.639 different feeling. Her voice did not bother me at all 342 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:46.840 last night. I mean, let's just be honest. They both 343 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:50.320 looked great. The glam squads showed up. His hair was 344 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:54.720 toned down. It wasn't that brassy I used sun in 345 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:57.279 this morning all in nineteen ninety two. 346 00:16:57.879 --> 00:16:59.080 It was toned down. 347 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:03.039 It was toned his hair was and she looked beautiful, 348 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.480 I mean, just incredible. But she did come out of 349 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:09.599 the gate a little bit. I thought a little nervous. 350 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:13.799 You thought so, yeah, but she quickly stopped the quiver 351 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:17.519 in her voice. It was only maybe thirty forty five 352 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:22.079 seconds or something like that. But hearing back some of 353 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:25.880 the clips this morning, and I have no I have 354 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:29.559 no no ground to stand on here, because I know 355 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:31.240 my voice can be very grating. 356 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:31.759 And annoying as well. 357 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:32.640 No, that's not true. 358 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:36.599 It did come across a little bit more whiny, I guess. 359 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:38.400 But I think that she's done very well. 360 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:42.960 We talked about this yesterday in improving her presentation, prediction, 361 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:46.240 her style of speaking. Remember, she was criticized for that 362 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:49.519 term word salad she would say kay a lot. 363 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:52.160 If you look at old clips, she doesn't do any 364 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:55.200 of that. There were were no filler words. I noticed 365 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:58.200 that as well. Excellent point. I kept waiting for an 366 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:03.000 um or the saying something without saying anything. 367 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:05.680 And I was thinking, like, this is what she rehearsed. Yes, 368 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:09.279 and it seemed like the preparation served her very well. 369 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:13.279 She reminded me of what I could have done if 370 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:16.559 I studied for one test in school, Like if I 371 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:20.680 just focused my nose to the grindstone is at the right, 372 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.920 If I just did that once, I could have gotten a's. 373 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:24.720 But I didn't. 374 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:28.599 I was Donald Trump and I just winged my reeling school. 375 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:30.319 And it's just awful. 376 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:31.480 What did you spend your time doing? 377 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:33.880 Uh, well, that's another show, Phil. 378 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:38.119 It's just you know, it's just obvious that she studied 379 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:40.599 and that she was holed up in that and it showed. 380 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:41.400 It showed. 381 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:44.720 And I don't think he came in totally unprepared, but 382 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:48.319 he went right to his main talking points and exaggerations. 383 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:50.119 And look, if you're listening to us right now, by 384 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:53.200 the way, should we mention the talkback feature? 385 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:55.640 You know, we're giving our opinions. We've heard other people's opinions. 386 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:58.079 You can click the microphone on the iHeartRadio app and 387 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:00.200 send us a message, and we'd love to play some 388 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:03.519 of the good ones, so make them good. And it 389 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:06.480 just it just seemed like he went right to the 390 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:08.920 same old thing. And that's what she said. You know, 391 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:10.599 we're not gonna I'm tired of We're tired of the 392 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:12.759 same old playbook. Look, if you're listening to this, you're 393 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:16.640 thinking me and you, Shannon and I are like rooting 394 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.480 for Harris. That's not the case. I mean, I think 395 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.279 we're trying to be objective. If she had not done 396 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:25.400 well and Trump had dominated, we would be giving him 397 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:26.039 credit today. 398 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:27.240 Why but it didn't happen. 399 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:29.559 Why didn't he talk about the things that terrify me, 400 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:33.799 like the socialism and the redistribution of wealth's all of 401 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.920