Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 1: the pitcher who plays for Pittsburgh, the great guy, great
Speaker 1: great Kane Skins. He's from Orange County.
Speaker 2: I don't know. If I don't know, that's all I
Speaker 2: have to look it up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, well we got a message saying that he is
Speaker 1: from Orange County, so it's like a homecoming.
Speaker 2: So is he pitching today? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1: I am assuming you pitched yesterday or today or someone
Speaker 1: find out some point. Stocks rising today, worldwide rally. Really
Speaker 1: After Trump appeared to back off the criticism of Jerome
Speaker 1: Powell and standing firm in the trade war with China,
Speaker 1: kind of waffling a bit, Wall Street has responded. Right
Speaker 1: now the Dow at six hundred and twenty seven points.
Speaker 4: We have talked before about the California Film and Television
Speaker 4: Jobs Act, passed by the State Assembly Committee for Arts, Entertainment,
Speaker 4: Sports and Tourism, one of at least two attempts by
Speaker 4: the legislature to expand some of the tax credits in
Speaker 4: the state to make sure that TV and film production
Speaker 4: at least has a reason to look at California still
Speaker 4: as a reasonable option. Heather Brooker from KFI News has
Speaker 4: been following this with us. So we have one of
Speaker 4: two now that have at least passed the set of
Speaker 4: the committee. So they're sister bills. AB one one three
Speaker 4: eight and SB six thirty. One is for the Senate
Speaker 4: and one is for the House. The House bill passed
Speaker 4: yesterday with seven yeses with kind of a resounding approval
Speaker 4: to move forward, and its sister bill is they're having
Speaker 4: a hearing right now as we speak for SB six
Speaker 4: thirty and that is the Senate version of the Film
Speaker 4: and Tax credit. So essentially, right now, California's Film and
Speaker 4: Tax credit has been stuck at the same amount since
Speaker 4: two thousand and nine.
Speaker 5: It's at three hundred and thirty thousand dollars, so it's
Speaker 5: been capped.
Speaker 2: That means any.
Speaker 4: Production you said thousand million, right million, I'm sorry, three
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty.
Speaker 5: I'm still waking up, guys. That's right, three and thirty million,
Speaker 5: thank you. So it's capped right there. That means that
Speaker 5: if productions have went, if that money has already been
Speaker 5: reached no other productions could take advantage of that credit,
Speaker 5: and it's been like that since two thousand and nine.
Speaker 5: So what they've been doing is going to other states
Speaker 5: to try to take advantage of other states tax credits
Speaker 5: to get their money back for filming. And California makes
Speaker 5: about twenty six billion dollars a year on the film
Speaker 5: and television industry. It is a massive industry for the
Speaker 5: state of California. So get finding a way to keep
Speaker 5: those productions here, to bring those production backs means thousands
Speaker 5: of jobs. It means not just for you know, people
Speaker 5: involved in the film industry, it also means jobs for
Speaker 5: local restaurants and craft services, and there's there's a there's
Speaker 5: a wide reaching net here.
Speaker 1: Now the exodus has already happened. We've talked about this
Speaker 1: before with you, Heather as well. Is we've seen so
Speaker 1: many productions move out of California in recent years. Whether
Speaker 1: that's from two thousand and nine, I believe it started,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five years ago, maybe a little bit more.
Speaker 1: But is it kind of in the same conversation that
Speaker 1: we're having with manufacturing in the United States, much of
Speaker 1: it has moved overseas in order to bring it back
Speaker 1: in order to bring film and TV production back to LA.
Speaker 2: How many years are we.
Speaker 1: Looking at to bring all that infrastructure structure back and
Speaker 1: is it worth it? Did?
Speaker 5: They think, well, I think you know some of the
Speaker 5: people who are opposing the bill, and there hasn't been
Speaker 5: a lot of vocal opposition to these bills. The majority
Speaker 5: of people in this state are supporting it. But some
Speaker 5: of the people who are bringing up their opposition are saying, hey,
Speaker 5: is this going to be like a race to the
Speaker 5: bottom here, because if we raise our tax credit to
Speaker 5: seven hundred and fifty million dollars, are all the other
Speaker 5: states going to do the same thing? And then we're
Speaker 5: right back where we started from. Right now, Georgia, we're
Speaker 5: only second if we if we if this approved gets approved,
Speaker 5: we're going to be second to Georgia, which has no
Speaker 5: cap which is why there is so many productions that
Speaker 5: went to Georgia. So then what happens is do the
Speaker 5: other states kind of start falling along and then we're
Speaker 5: right back where.
Speaker 2: He started from it.
Speaker 5: So what the pack, essentially, the group that's kind of
Speaker 5: fighting for this to move through, is saying, is this
Speaker 5: isn't a perfect plan. It doesn't have all the answers,
Speaker 5: but it's a good plan and it's better than nothing,
Speaker 5: and we have to at least try.
Speaker 1: And I agree with that it is better than nothing.
Speaker 1: I just think this ship has sailed. I mean, we
Speaker 1: just talked about it. I don't remember if it was
Speaker 1: the three of us the last time we spoke about
Speaker 1: things moving out of California and how we've all gone
Speaker 1: to concerts and all the things outside of state because
Speaker 1: it's just so much cheaper. When you think about the
Speaker 1: mini city that goes with a TV production or a
Speaker 1: film production. You're paying more in California for everything, not
Speaker 1: just you know, getting the tax credit back or whatever,
Speaker 1: but you're paying more for the you know, the people,
Speaker 1: the jockey, the key jockey, what is that? Is that
Speaker 1: something you're paying sure the key grip?
Speaker 2: Are you saying about horse racing?
Speaker 1: More for a lodging, for food, for crafts? Are everything
Speaker 1: you're paying more for? It's not just there is film credit.
Speaker 5: There is a larger over overarching issue here. It is
Speaker 5: not just that we don't have the tax credit available
Speaker 5: for these productions. It is that California is exorbitantly expensive
Speaker 5: no matter what level of the production rung ladder that
Speaker 5: you're on. It's too expensive to live here. So even
Speaker 5: if there were more productions brought back, people still have
Speaker 5: to be able to afford to live here. So this
Speaker 5: bill doesn't address any of that. It doesn't address any
Speaker 5: of the cost of living stuff. It truly is just
Speaker 5: tax incentive. What it does do is it's going to
Speaker 5: expand the number of productions that can be eligible for it. So,
Speaker 5: for example, it's going to have incentives for series for
Speaker 5: forty minutes to twenty minutes. Right now, you could only
Speaker 5: apply for a tax incentive if your series is forty
Speaker 5: minutes or longer. So this would mean there's more taxing
Speaker 5: centives for shorter shows, shorter programs, for animated series, for
Speaker 5: animated films. The previous tax plan from two thousand and
Speaker 5: nine did not include any of these types of productions.
Speaker 5: So the hope is that by widening the net and
Speaker 5: saying we're welcoming more productions, more opportunities, that people will
Speaker 5: start to come back. I mean, so many people already
Speaker 5: live in la they already live here. A lot of
Speaker 5: people want to live here.
Speaker 2: But if you.
Speaker 5: Don't make if you don't have a job, if they
Speaker 5: don't have a job somewhere to go to work some
Speaker 5: way to make money. Of course they're going to go
Speaker 5: somewhere else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's it's ignoring some of the basic economic
Speaker 4: realities of what the industry has been and meant you
Speaker 4: said twenty six billion in terms of income to the state.
Speaker 4: There are people who when we talked about this the
Speaker 4: other day, you were mentioning that a production had gone
Speaker 4: down recently, film and TV production, and we actually got
Speaker 4: comments from people who said, good, I'm sick and tired
Speaker 4: of them in my neighborhood done all this and the whatever,
Speaker 4: but without understanding. But one of the reasons why your
Speaker 4: neighborhood coffee shop or restaurant or a grocery store that
Speaker 4: you love, one of the reasons is still in existence
Speaker 4: is because of the money that's been spent by film
Speaker 4: and TV crews.
Speaker 5: The trickle down effect is cannot be ignored in the
Speaker 5: film and television industry. We're talking about two hundred thousand
Speaker 5: jobs created and at a part of this tax credit
Speaker 5: since two thousand and nine. If we increase it, the
Speaker 5: proponents are saying, that's even more jobs, that's even more
Speaker 5: economic stimulation. That's going to happen in the community, and
Speaker 5: it is, like you said, at a very small level.
Speaker 5: Even your local coffee shop will see the benefits of that.
Speaker 5: And for people, you know, I saw those comments too,
Speaker 5: and people are you know, they don't want production. I
Speaker 5: think it truly is because people just see the celebrity
Speaker 5: side of entertainment. And if you stop and think for
Speaker 5: a second that there is far more that goes into
Speaker 5: It takes hundreds, sometimes thousands of hands on a major
Speaker 5: feature film, from animators, tons to the key jockey, you know,
Speaker 5: whatever whatever.
Speaker 2: In my knee.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just wanna slap myself right across the face.
Speaker 5: It's working. It's people who who need good paying jobs,
Speaker 5: and film and television in a lot of ways has
Speaker 5: good paying jobs.
Speaker 4: Well, you said, Setibill six thirty is being talked about. Now,
Speaker 4: keep us updated, as.
Speaker 5: I definitely will.
Speaker 2: I have a schedule later on.
Speaker 5: I'm going to talk to one of the main proponents,
Speaker 5: the person who is leading the charge. She's actually speaking
Speaker 5: right now, and I'm going to talk to her later
Speaker 5: when she comes out of the committee.
Speaker 1: Heather, thank you.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 1: Let's play Choose your Own Adventure day and dive into
Speaker 1: this Paul Skins story at Angel Stadium because it's a
Speaker 1: pretty good one. He pitched yesterday, and there's a nice
Speaker 1: moment with Mike Trout and just to feel good home Homecoming.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 3: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: So we mentioned Paul Skeins coming back to Orange County. Yes,
Speaker 1: he pitched yesterday, Now he had He's from Lake Forest.
Speaker 1: He had walked the outfield dirt of Angel Stadium before,
Speaker 1: but that was on Little League day. Growing up, he
Speaker 1: had caught batting practice home runs and the right field bleachers.
Speaker 1: He made plenty of trips to Angel Stadium, including in
Speaker 1: that window in twenty twenty three between winning a College
Speaker 1: World Series and being drafted first overall by the Pittsburgh Pirates,
Speaker 1: but until yesterday, he had never stepped foot on the
Speaker 1: actual playing field of his hometown team. So after shagging
Speaker 1: fly balls in the outfield interacting with some fans in
Speaker 1: the stands, he got a look at how things are
Speaker 1: on the other side. He says, I was just running
Speaker 1: in the outfields. It's the same as when I was
Speaker 1: growing up. They've got a three game set there in Anaheim.
Speaker 1: He said, the sun's right in your eyes when you're
Speaker 1: trying to catch balls and the stands during batting practice.
Speaker 1: One of those things that you can't forget how cool
Speaker 1: it is what we're doing.
Speaker 6: When I got out of college and so when I
Speaker 6: was here, you know, I'd like to think I was
Speaker 6: the reason it was one of the one series because
Speaker 6: I was born that year. Now, but every this is this,
Speaker 6: this is my team. So obviously grew up here watching
Speaker 6: trout Otani. More recently, Derek Ivar, John Lackey, Uh, go through.
Speaker 6: It's cool, be back.
Speaker 2: Just talked to Mike.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually met him earlier today in the outfield.
Speaker 6: Who was Who's the first one out there doing early
Speaker 6: work for them? Pretty pretty cool to to meet him,
Speaker 6: got to, you know, spend a little bit of time
Speaker 6: with him.
Speaker 1: That's really it's like your childhood hero. Yeah. He was
Speaker 1: there at Otawani's first home pitching start. And here's how
Speaker 1: we got the tickets. Mark Chapman went to Skien's High
Speaker 1: School in El Toro and and hooked up with the
Speaker 1: tickets since the A's were in town, and then in
Speaker 1: the bleachers a few days later when o'hanne sailed that
Speaker 1: majestic shot over his head. How cool He's like, I
Speaker 1: like to think I was the reason the Angels won
Speaker 1: the World Series because I was born that year, in
Speaker 1: two thousand and two.
Speaker 2: That is, I mean, I covered that World Series.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just gonna say that that's not.
Speaker 1: Fun so funny.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's great. I mean, this is one of those
Speaker 4: guys' schemes. Is one of those guys that is just
Speaker 4: hard to describe in terms of his his impact on
Speaker 4: the game. To be that young and to already be
Speaker 4: considered one of the top two or three pitchers in
Speaker 4: the entire league.
Speaker 1: He said that he said, well, most well, while most
Speaker 1: people have dreams of playing in the Majors when they
Speaker 1: visit their hometown stadium growing up, he says that that
Speaker 1: dream never felt like a reality until he went to
Speaker 1: Coors Field when he was with the Air Force, went
Speaker 1: to the Air Force Academy.
Speaker 4: I don't think he pitched last night. He's not scheduled
Speaker 4: to pitch against the Angels. He'll probably pitch on Fridays.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean he warmed up on the mound. I
Speaker 1: guess is what they're Yeah, how cool is that?
Speaker 4: It's one of that's one of those great stories that
Speaker 4: you don't I don't know. There's a difference between baseball
Speaker 4: and other sports when it comes to stuff like that,
Speaker 4: and not just because I think it's I it's my
Speaker 4: favorite sport. I think it's just because the way that
Speaker 4: the sport is played, the way that it is so
Speaker 4: much older than a lot of a lot of the
Speaker 4: things that we watch.
Speaker 1: I think also, I think about children more with baseball.
Speaker 1: I think of kids watching baseball growing up more than
Speaker 1: any other sport. But then maybe that's just because of
Speaker 1: where I grew up. I don't know, I get I
Speaker 1: grew up in a big hockey town, so it wasn't
Speaker 1: like everyone would go to the San Jose Sharks games.
Speaker 7: That's true. When did they even start? When did the
Speaker 7: Sharks even start as a franchise? I would say late eighties.
Speaker 7: I mean, I know artrus urbe played in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 4: He was always on my video game that I would play.
Speaker 4: They began play in the ninety one ninety two season. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, all right, up next, we'll talk about these
Speaker 4: power lines. We've heard this over and over again for
Speaker 4: as long as I can remember living in California. The
Speaker 4: power lines should be buried because of the potential fire
Speaker 4: Hasard and over the last decade, we've seen those fires
Speaker 4: caused by power lines in a way we've not seen
Speaker 4: in the past. So we'll talk about what goes into
Speaker 4: actually burying power lines, what it means, how long it
Speaker 4: how long it would take, and how expensive it would be.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 3: AM six forty.
Speaker 4: Since the fire in Paradise, the campfire that killed eighty
Speaker 4: five people and destroyed thousands of buildings, there have been
Speaker 4: calls and started long before that, but there have been
Speaker 4: calls to put electrical lines underground throughout California because of
Speaker 4: our risk of wildfire. Now, wildfire itself is not new
Speaker 4: to California. That's been around for long before that was California,
Speaker 4: and there are discussions ongoing about putting some of these
Speaker 4: power lines undergrounding these power lines in some of the
Speaker 4: higher risk areas around the state. But it's gonna cost
Speaker 4: a lot of money. After the fires and after an
Speaker 4: executive order from the governor I'm speaking of the Eton
Speaker 4: and the Palisades fires, so calitis and released a plan.
Speaker 4: They said they were going to bury more than one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty circuit miles of distribution power lines in
Speaker 4: the footprints of those fires, the Palisades and Eaten fires.
Speaker 4: Most of those would take place in and around Altadena
Speaker 4: and Malibu.
Speaker 1: It makes sense that you would target these super high risk.
Speaker 2: Areas, right.
Speaker 4: The problem with that is, I mean, there's one good
Speaker 4: thing in those higher risk areas is think of the
Speaker 4: hills above Altadena, for example, there's fewer other utilities that
Speaker 4: they'd have to deal with. But if you're talking about
Speaker 4: a neighborhood that you would consider, and maybe those right
Speaker 4: on the outskirts there at Altadena where it meets the mountains,
Speaker 4: you are going to have sewer lines, cable line, You're
Speaker 4: gonna have other utilities that you have to deal with.
Speaker 2: It's not as easy as.
Speaker 4: Just putting in a trench and then drop it a
Speaker 4: wire down there. LA Department of Water and Power, by
Speaker 4: the way, says they are going to go underground with
Speaker 4: some of their four thousand power lines out in the
Speaker 4: Palisades area since that's their jurisdiction, and they say it
Speaker 4: will cost somewhere between one million and fourteen million dollars
Speaker 4: per mile, depending on the location.
Speaker 2: The statics of quite a gap.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's just one million is ridiculously expensive. Fourteen million.
Speaker 1: One million is not feasible. There's no way it's going
Speaker 1: to be only a million.
Speaker 4: So cal Edison says that their cost per mile is
Speaker 4: somewhere between three and five million, which is still completely outlandish.
Speaker 4: Now there's other options. One of the other options that
Speaker 4: they talk about is to basically spray some of I
Speaker 4: don't know how they do it. They cover their lines
Speaker 4: with what they refer to as a fire resistant material,
Speaker 4: the covered conductor program that Edison is working on.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: Again, Edison says to underground their lines would be somewhere
Speaker 4: between three and five million dollars per mile. To put
Speaker 4: this covered conductor resistant material on there would be about
Speaker 4: seven hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: How about just getting all the infrastructure in working order
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five. How About instead of talking about
Speaker 1: putting all the lines underground, you spend the five dollars
Speaker 1: per pole and get everything working so that they don't
Speaker 1: start the fires because all the infrastructure is aging. How
Speaker 1: About we'll start there and we'll get everything in working order,
Speaker 1: and then we can talk about the unicorn dreams of
Speaker 1: putting everything underground.
Speaker 4: What I understand is that this is not even considered.
Speaker 4: Even two and a half three months later, nobody says
Speaker 4: the Palisades fire started because of power lines.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that anywhere. The Altadena one.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean they have video that shows what they
Speaker 4: say is the start of that fire under an edit.
Speaker 1: Power countless fire started by power line.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And I'm not saying that's.
Speaker 1: Because it's aging infrastructure.
Speaker 4: And the Altadena fire is probably the best example of that.
Speaker 4: That they said that this was a tower that was
Speaker 4: not being used but existed for the last sixty five
Speaker 4: seventy seventy five years.
Speaker 1: About we just go and we we update the infrastructure,
Speaker 1: because that's not expensive, that's not nearly as expensive as this.
Speaker 1: This is. This is this is a pipe.
Speaker 4: Dream, the underground pipe the reaction that utilities have had lately.
Speaker 4: Of course, these public safety power shutofs, which are not
Speaker 4: a great option for a lot of people. Think of
Speaker 4: what happened in Altadena, for example, that fire. Everybody's attention
Speaker 4: was on the Palisades that day because the fire had
Speaker 4: already started. The fire started during our show, so thankfully
Speaker 4: we have an alibi. We didn't do it, But everybody
Speaker 4: was talking about the Palisades fire for the first twelve
Speaker 4: hours of the Palisades fired. That's where the attention was.
Speaker 4: And then something sparks in Alta Dina and you're talking
Speaker 4: about much later at night. And in the event that
Speaker 4: they had shut off the electricity, no one there would
Speaker 4: have been I shouldn't say no one. Getting word out
Speaker 4: about the fire would have been more difficult if nobody
Speaker 4: had electricity in that neighborhood.
Speaker 1: We didn't.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: We didn't have electricity. That was the problem. Remember, because
Speaker 1: I remember I had no electricity. My electricity went off.
Speaker 2: It's sick.
Speaker 1: I think it was because I'm a couple canyons over
Speaker 1: from where that burst in Alta Dina. That fire erupted,
Speaker 1: but I think it was a shut off by the
Speaker 1: power company at about six pm so, and then the
Speaker 1: fire started. And we had no way of knowing. The
Speaker 1: only way I knew because Twitter was down, everything was down.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know there was a fire in Altadena
Speaker 1: till one of my friends texted and said, are you
Speaker 1: close to Altadena? And I thought, oh, crap, Alta Dina's
Speaker 1: on fire now, So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that proves my point these public safety power
Speaker 4: shut offs as reactive as they are in terms or
Speaker 4: proactive I guess is what the utility would suggest, they
Speaker 4: could potentially cause more problems than they solved. Yeah, because
Speaker 4: of the fact that they don't have people don't have
Speaker 4: the ability to communicate the way that they should in
Speaker 4: those instances.
Speaker 1: Now, especially with how quick those both of those fires took.
Speaker 2: Off very quickly because we knew the danger.
Speaker 4: Now, the argument of undergrounding these power lines is a
Speaker 4: good one, but it is financially absolutely unfeasible now because
Speaker 4: you think the state has enough money to do it,
Speaker 4: not by a long shot, and the utilities are just
Speaker 4: gonna end up charging you for you You could.
Speaker 1: Dip into all the big pot of money that the
Speaker 1: city set aside for homelessness that they don't even bother
Speaker 1: spending because they don't know what to do.
Speaker 4: Well, that would but then again, you're only talking about
Speaker 4: a couple hundred miles maybe of lines that go under ground,
Speaker 4: and there's thousands of thousands of miles.
Speaker 1: All right, dealer's choice. You want to talk about porner murderer,
Speaker 1: you pick porn or murder.
Speaker 2: Let's do the porn one because I think it's funnier.
Speaker 1: You don't have to justify why you want to talk
Speaker 1: about porn.
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Speaker 4: Forty CBS has entered a new period of turmoil. The
Speaker 4: executive producer of sixty Minutes says he's resigning. Oh no,
Speaker 4: Bill Owens, only the third person to run sixty Minutes
Speaker 4: over the course of its fifty seven year history.
Speaker 2: It's like the Pittsburgh Steelers of TV news Shows.
Speaker 4: Told his staff and a memo that over the last months,
Speaker 4: it's become clear I would not be allowed to run
Speaker 4: the show as I've always run it, to make independent
Speaker 4: decisions based on what was right for sixty Minutes, right
Speaker 4: for the audience.
Speaker 1: I have news for you, Gary Hoffman, your face today
Speaker 1: has only looked disappointed in me today. For the first
Speaker 1: two hours of this show go on, I've looked across
Speaker 1: the table and seen nothing but disappointment.
Speaker 2: Is this something about Megan?
Speaker 1: No, it's about the Golden Bachelor?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, duh.
Speaker 1: Do you want to know who the new Golden Bachelor is?
Speaker 2: Please tell me it's Gary again.
Speaker 1: How about a quick gas go around.
Speaker 2: Of who the new Golden Bachelor is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Famous people? Uh that are over sixty five.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know who's married and who's not married.
Speaker 1: Just name an old guy could be dead. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like Sean Connery, is he still with us? I don't know. No, No,
Speaker 1: Dennis Quaid old is Dennis Quaid sixty something? But I
Speaker 1: love Dennis Quaid. I love him in all those religious
Speaker 1: movies that have come out recently. He's seventy one. Okay,
Speaker 1: so interesting, but I think he's he is married. He
Speaker 1: got married in twenty twenty. Look at him. Let's see here, Robin,
Speaker 1: do you have an exam a guest of an old guy?
Speaker 1: Not even close.
Speaker 2: I don't know any Pick someone old, you say me,
Speaker 2: I will walk in there. Okay.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 1: Gary Hoffman is not the Golden Bachelor yet. Keana, do
Speaker 1: you have a guess?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 8: What am I guessing about?
Speaker 1: A person? An old man? Chase a famous old man?
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm just gonna say Tom Hanks because that's what's
Speaker 8: coming to my mind.
Speaker 1: Asking young people to mention somebody old and I don't
Speaker 1: even know who this is either.
Speaker 2: Justin Bieber mel Owens.
Speaker 1: Do you know who mel Owens is?
Speaker 2: No clue?
Speaker 1: Former NFL player, he played for your Los Angeles Rams.
Speaker 1: He was the ninth draft pick in nineteen eighty one
Speaker 1: by the Los Angeles Rams. He's sixty six played nine
Speaker 1: years in the NFL before becoming a lawyer after he retired.
Speaker 1: The premier date for the next season of The Golden
Speaker 1: Bachelor has not been announced. But mel Owens is your guy.
Speaker 1: I can't wait, I can, I can. He looks like
Speaker 1: a nice.
Speaker 2: Guy, a football player. Stills, he's still he's got a
Speaker 2: bit of a blockhead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not to be mean, but he's I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a big guy.
Speaker 8: Right when they showed the preview, like revealed him on Instagram,
Speaker 8: I could only stare at his teeth.
Speaker 1: Why, because they were there's a lot year Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: very there's a lot of them. He's from Michigan, born
Speaker 1: in Detroit, born in nineteen fifty eight, went to University
Speaker 1: of Michigan. He lives in Orange County. Big guy, big
Speaker 1: guy linebacker. Yeah, his teeth. Because here's the problem. He's
Speaker 1: got thin lips, so he looks like he's kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I have a heck comount like the cripkeeper
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Well, he revealed his smile and then it was just teeth.
Speaker 4: Down. In Orange County, there is a fight about the
Speaker 4: word porn, which is a fight about porn in libraries,
Speaker 4: but is now coming to fruition.
Speaker 2: As a fight over the word porn.
Speaker 4: There's a special election set for June where in Huntington
Speaker 4: Beach voters are going to weigh in on a couple
Speaker 4: of ballot initiatives, Measures A and Measure Measures A and
Speaker 4: B that would figure out who actually controls the city's
Speaker 4: public libraries.
Speaker 2: And the argument is.
Speaker 4: The pretty conservative city government there at Huntington Beach voted
Speaker 4: to establish a board of residents to review books that
Speaker 4: are in the city's public libraries weed out kids books
Speaker 4: that they determined would have inappropriate content sexually inappropriate content
Speaker 4: based on their criteria. So opponents say the job of
Speaker 4: choosing and classifying books should be left to professional librarians,
Speaker 4: so they wanted to get Measure A on the board.
Speaker 4: Public library advocates mounted a second petition drive after the
Speaker 4: city flirted with the outsourcing library operations to a private company.
Speaker 4: Measure B would prohibit the city from doing that. So
Speaker 4: the people who want to make sure that the residents
Speaker 4: are the ones in charge of what's in the library
Speaker 4: have put up signs protect our kids from porn know
Speaker 4: on A and B. People who don't like the signs
Speaker 4: say it's introducing a word to kids that they don't know.
Speaker 2: We've got a whole city full of.
Speaker 1: Kids googling what is porn on their smartphones. Hey, if
Speaker 1: they've got a smartphone.
Speaker 2: They know what it is. Yeah, yeah, they know what
Speaker 2: it is. One of the people.
Speaker 4: City council member Chad Williams defended the sign and said,
Speaker 4: I redirect your attention to the fact that this sexual
Speaker 4: content was pushed into the public library, and this is
Speaker 4: what has pushed this into the public forum. Said his
Speaker 4: own kids have even asked him about the word porn,
Speaker 4: and I just told them these are his words. It's
Speaker 4: a bad thing they're trying to protect us from. You
Speaker 4: don't have to get into the details. Well, you're right,
Speaker 4: but that is a very steep uphill climb to prevent
Speaker 4: your kid from finding out, especially if they've got the
Speaker 4: smartphones like you're talking about.
Speaker 7: So I'm all, sweetheart, Oh dear, look at you kids.
Speaker 1: Know if you gave us smartphones, break on time.
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