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Speaker 1: So I think a lot of these guys are gonna end.

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four or five more games. And then from a program perspective,

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this is where it really doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Need development, is this not a great opportunity to give

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some guys some some extra game experience. We talked so

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much about young guys needing experience, Going to the NIT

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is a great way to maybe give some younger players

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a bigger stage and a bigger opportunity one to see

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if they can show some value in terms of, hey,

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this is a guy that we can work with and

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build with, Let's bring him back. Because that's honestly, the

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state of college athletics now is young guys have to

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show that they're worth bringing back the next year.

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Speaker 1: It's not This isn't.

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Speaker 2: College sports of ten to fifteen years ago, where you

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sign a scholarship and your guaranteed spot.

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Speaker 2: We just don't live in that world now with repshare

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and NIL, and so I think from a program perspective,

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someone that we can retain and want to retain in

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the listeners and I don't offend you know, BYU or

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anybody or employers, but you kind of feel that way

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in a sense of BYU, like there were guys that

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probably weren't supposed to play this year, and Richie Saunders

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goes down due to injury and perk Kevin Young they're

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on their third iteration. And I love what I've seen

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from Alexi coachch Dominie Diomande's given him a good minutes

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a Dean boop. You see his red shirt year and

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how was effective. I feel like because of that and

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BYU playing and not saying, all right, well, Richie's gone,

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let's fight for Richie. Let's play. You see guys actually

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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because that's you know, early in the season, you wouldn't

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know what you had with these guys. But Kostitch, Diomande Boot,

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t They're going to the NCAA Tournament. But if you

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look at a Cincy as an example, ron they just

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said thanks, but no thanks, We're not gonna We're not

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gonna play.

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Speaker 1: You can't tell me that they don't have some.

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potential next head coach, and they don't.

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Speaker 1: Get that opportunity.

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for the players than it is for the fans.

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final tournament. So sometimes it's baffling. I look, but you're right,

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the cards that bou has dealt. To use a term

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that Ky likes to use, these are these are the

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wins over Iowa not Iowa State, you got to win

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three game winning streak and finding themselves is I thought

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attempts to cable they didn't connect, but I liked it

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of depth, there could be a five to ten minute

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spell in a tournament game and that costs them, and

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that's that's possible. But I think this team has a

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lot of positive momentum from this tournament. That makes me

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but that lip last serration. You wonder if that and

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maybe should not not be so aggressive to maybe hurt myself?

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ahead of the first round win against Kansas State, and

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to the coaches ahead of the Texas Tech game and said,

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effort defensively that's such thirst day on the screen, but

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Speaker 1: What they're trying to do.

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Speaker 2: He's playing great basketball right now, and that's a That's

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Speaker 1: We know he can score. Scoring is not the problem.

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gonna say it's not hyperble. AJ is a walking thirty five. Look,

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the West. The San Jose region six seed plan against

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Gonzaga matt for BYU fans. I remember covering it with

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you at your old employer. We remember the WCC days

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with that. Just what BYU fans want to get that

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opportunity to bounce Gonzaga and then go to the sweet sixteen.

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matchup you want, but if that's the draw and the

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most favorable three seeded matchups, I think. I think if

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you were a knockoff Gonzaga BYU fans, it would just

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validate to move to the Big twelve, the nightmares of

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Speaker 1: That would be a phenomenal draw. Not only because I

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peak as it was when BYU is competing with them

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in the WCC. But the West Region talked about major

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to home, and where do they go ron they go

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Speaker 1: A great draw for BYU in a great location.

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the state of New Jersey and New York. And I

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four home runs. I think that was the only good

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Matt like in Zaga. Look, I'm not trying to speak

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hyperbole into existing and talk to us. But if Michigan

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the East coast two time zones, I know BYU's down

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a guy. But like, if you can rebound well against

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the Tom Mizzo team and they don't have a league

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guard played that, man, you just you never know. March

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they don't get to draw Miami of Ohio in Greenville

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college basketball fan, but I would love to see Miami

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knockoff of six seed. I don't want to see them.

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Speaker 1: Get with me too. I'm rooting for Miami of Ohio.

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no doubt about it.

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he just come out in six earlier?

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Speaker 4: Matt?

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Speaker 3: It feels like Granny, right, I know all about PR.

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It feels like this is a PR move. And to

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say this because the narrative has changed with AJ to

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get him, Oh, well, I was hurt. That's why I

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couldn't play or while I'm not playing well right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't believe anything that comes out of the

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Kansas camp or the Darren Peterson camp in regard to

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what's happened this season. And I just think if you

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compare DP versus a J, I don't even think there's

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a comparison in terms of upside. I know that Darren

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Peterson might be a slightly better offensive score, but if

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you I mean a lead or leading the country and scoring,

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so even a ballot, yeah, maybe maybe that's not even

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a valid argument that that Darren Peterson's a better score

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because AJ has proven that he can lead.

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Speaker 1: His sport in scoring.

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Speaker 2: And then AJ, I just think his his attitude and

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his buy in and his pure joy to play the game,

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which is obvious to me, that that to me sets

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them apart. There's no concerns with AJ in terms of

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does he love the game? Does he want to play? Absolutely?

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He loves the game, And to me, there's there's no comparison.

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I wouldn't even think twice. If I had the number

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one pick, I'm taking AJ.

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Speaker 1: The time.

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Speaker 3: The best ability is availability one hundred percent. He's had that,

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and not only that, he's performed every single step of

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the way, and I think he's outperformed them. I think

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it will happen and look, whatever's going on with Darren

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when they go to the combine in a month. I

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don't care what these quotes are. That's all gonna be exposed.

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So we can wait. I guess a couple of a

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couple of weeks and it will come out. Surely we

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buy Matte on the line, We'll get you out of

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here on this a two parter. The first I'm really intrigued,

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you know, to know your thoughts on the Bruce Branch commitment.

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Obviously h b yu with that. And and then the

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last thing, I just can this, what do you have

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this team as a Sweet sixteen team? Would you say

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that even though you don't know what the draw is

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gonna be.

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Speaker 2: I think that es they are a Sweet sixteen team

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because they found an identity.

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Speaker 1: Even at the start of.

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Speaker 2: The year when they were healthy. I think they were

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still trying to figure out who were we gonna.

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Speaker 4: Be, what are we gonna do, Who's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna fill each role? And now that is just that's

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clearly defined Age as your number one, Rob Wright number two.

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And then it even feels like the role guys are

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a little more settled in.

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Speaker 1: You know, Boop and Diamonde.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna come in, You're gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Disruptive defensively A let's say you're gonna start you're a

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three point sharpshooter, k but you keep doing what you're doing.

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I love teams that have a clear identity, not in

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terms of the way they play, but also who's gonna play.

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Speaker 1: And what role they're gonna fill.

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Speaker 2: You know this, Ron Others might know this, but I'm

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a massive Lakers fan.

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Speaker 1: Go up a Lakers fan, Okay. And you know something

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I like to do a couple of times a.

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Speaker 2: Year is relive the Kobe glory days and so I

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have the Championship DVD BS. The reason I bring it

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up is there is a scene, a behind the scenes

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scene in their last championship year with Kobe, where Phil

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Jackson comes into the locker room and he looks at

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Jordan Farmar, who is a backup point guard at during

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that championship run, and he said, Jordan, don't anticipate what.

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Speaker 1: Your role is going to be.

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Speaker 2: Just do what we're asking you to do. Just come

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in and run the show with the second unit, and

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that's your role. And I think that's so important for

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so many players, where you just know what's expected. Hey, Alexey,

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you're going to start when you're open, shoot the three dom,

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You're going to come in, You're going to give us

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fifteen minutes a game, and you're just going to be

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crazy active defensively, get out.

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Speaker 4: In transition, get to the rim.

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Speaker 2: It takes the thinking out of it, and I think,

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especially for the role players, you want to make it

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as simple as possible. And I think that's happened and

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why I have belief that this team is a Sweet

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sixteen team. And then to answer your other question with Bruce,

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I think him committing just shows that what Kevin Young

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envisioned in his introductory press conference has come to pass,

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that this is becoming a premier place to prepare people

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for the NBA, and that is that's fantastic. This wasn't

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just a one year special exception where you get in

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AJ and then are we going to be able to

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bring in more five stars?

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Speaker 1: Well that's answered. It's three years in a row.

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Speaker 2: Now Ron jegor Aj and now Bruce like ajor k

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why excuse me? Is recruiting at a high level and

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he is fulfilling what he set out to do from

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his first day on the job. And it's it's a

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beautiful thing. We should be thankful as Bou fans. It's

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something we dreamed of for decades and it's come to

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pass with Bou basketball.

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Speaker 3: Fans should be grateful. They should three years in a row,

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five stars as committee. He has to sign first, but

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that will I believe happened. And there you go with

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that matter. I have to ask Golf forging about your

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thoughts on the court and all of that, because we've

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run out of time. But before I let you go,

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what's the best way we can support you? What to

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do and how you do it?

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Speaker 2: Hey, just follow me on on the socials Bijamante Mattz

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and then you know, listen, listen on in when I'm

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doing I'll be doing play by play for Bou Baseball

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next week on the road in Morgantown.

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Speaker 4: So give it a listen and give me.

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Speaker 1: A follow on the socials. Appreciate it on.

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Speaker 3: Hey, he'll be doing play by play on the road

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for Bou Baseball. Tune and thanks for your time today.

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Enjoy the rest of your Saturday.

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Speaker 1: And selection Sunday you too. Take care of you, guys.

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