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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to a Friday

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happy hour live here with Clips and Dip. I am

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Chuck Mockler with Adam Oslin. We am up like should

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be on the show at some point. If you're listening

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to this and you miss the live, you can find

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us at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast. Hit

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the bell and you'll know when we go live. If

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you want to hang out Adam. Some folks might be wondering,

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what the hell is our background? What is going on here?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's Friday night and Chuck and I are about

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to have a prayer lock in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're locking. We're locking in. We're getting pizza, we

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got shuffleboard.

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Speaker 2: We're getting wild Man back up and running. We are

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with the Clippers. We're going the same way.

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Speaker 1: We are ascending. If you were all live a couple

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weeks I don't know what feels like an eternity ago.

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We were in hell for a bit, but the Clippers

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aren't exactly in heaven yet. But we are ascending. They

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get the win over the Lakers. We need more in

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and out videos. Marios as saying Adam is the king

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of in and out.

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Speaker 2: I did do one last night.

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Speaker 1: I know I watched it. We were talking about this

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a little bit before we started. But last night could

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have been horrible. Last night could have been the worst

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loss of the season, but it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Chuck, I think that might have been the worst regular

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season loss ever. If you consider biggest comeback on the

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Clippers ever, I think down twenty six might have qualified

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as the biggest comeback a team ever had on the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: Will would you have punched a hole in the wall

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if the Clippers would have lost last night?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I would have been furious. Man. That's what it

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was looking like there for a while. It got a

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little hairy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it got dicey. Uh. A lot of Murray pointed

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this out, but the Lakers kind of really only scored

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off of turnovers for the like, off of weird, shitty

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possessions by the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: A lot of self inflicted ones.

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Speaker 1: A lot of self inflicted ones, and the refs were bad.

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Speaker 2: I'd never heard coach lu had to bite his tongue.

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Kawhi said that was some crazy s I'm sorry, but

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that was okay. If you lose a twenty six point lead,

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nobody's gonna feel sorry for you. Regardless of what the

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refs do. But there was some craziness last night.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah. I mean it was Clippers did take more

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free throw attempts.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was some intentional fouls late by the Lakers.

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That's kewed things. It was a lot of the calls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought a bigger issue was just the stuff

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that wasn't getting called period.

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Speaker 1: Kawhi was taking a couple.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He was very good at the very end of the game,

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which was great, but it felt like he and Harden

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were both I want to say, taking like hit but

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it was just yeah, it was very physical in the pain.

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It was a playoff atmosphere whistlewise, not.

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Speaker 2: When it was guarding Luca. Chris Don got some real

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ticky tack calls on him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that shoulder move that Luca does where he

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just he bumps in and then the rest just automatically called.

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But you know who was good last night. You know

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who provided some value on the court, A Viza Zubats.

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Speaker 2: I am very happy to see a Visa Zubats thrive

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the way he did last night against the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: And that was a crazy foul call, which one when

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Vanderbilt hooked him and they ended up doing foul thing

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Like I thought that was I thought that with trash.

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I thought that was the utter trash because dude just

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didn't he didn't do anything extra at least I don't know,

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not that I saw, not that I observed. It looked

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like he was just trying to disengage and then he

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left it at that.

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Speaker 2: And he had just got into a vanda with Collins.

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I think the possession before for a rebound, So I

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don't know it. Thank goodness the Clippers one, because I

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would not want to be talking about fouls and a

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complete collapse.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that would have been a nightmare. Collins had a

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huge offensive rebound late. It was before Zoos. Yeah, it

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was off a free throw that was awesome to see.

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And then Kobe and Jordan combined for twenty three points.

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Jordan Miller was kind of bad on the third, but

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everyone was really bad on the third.

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Speaker 3: They were letting him play through some moments there. There

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was a couple of Jordan Miller possessions there where I

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was like, man, if there's not a you know, a

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minute's restriction on Kawhi, Like are they letting him go

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to that extent?

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Speaker 2: He got d'ed up by Ruey in the fourth quarter

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on our possession where he was just trying to go

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at him and really couldn't get anything out of it.

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It might have been in a turnover, no Shakhlak violation turnover.

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big time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we got those. The early Kobe efficient threes

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point we could get in the beginning of this game.

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Speaker 2: I thought those were really big too, because they countered.

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And then some what Jake Lauravia was getting. He hit

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two wide open threes to start, and it was like,

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is this gonna be role players, you know, shooting night

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for the Lakers to night against the Clippers. They're gonna

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be knocking down shots they don't always hit. And then

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Kobe Sanders Uh was able to take that momentum away.

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Speaker 3: They were leaving him wide open. I mean, I guess

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a couple of those were like miscommunications. It wasn't game planned,

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but yeah, a couple of those were wide wide open those.

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Speaker 1: Their defense is bad, it is, yeah, it is bad defense.

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I like that Chris down only took two threes. I

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think that's a testament that the Clippers offense was working

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better than it usually does. Usually, defenses want Chris dun

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of anybody to take threes from the starting lineup, right,

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Like if you just look at the percentages, and we've

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seen the ball funnel that way. So it was nice

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to see the Clippers not have to funnel that. No

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disrespect to Chris done, he's very good, but shooting from

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outside is a win for the defense and what they

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try and get the Clippers to do a lot of

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the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Chris Dune's a different shooter this season so far,

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and I always regressed a little bit as of late.

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But is he's still above thirty seven percent from three?

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Speaker 1: Let me check.

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Speaker 2: I know he missed at least one late in the

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game where they left him wide open.

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Speaker 1: He's at thirty seven point two, go ahead and call it.

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Miles Johnson brought this up. Harden's got to make shots eventually, right.

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He's been in a shooting slump for weeks. Harden was

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a little laxa daisical with the ball possession last night.

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Speaker 2: That was frustrating, dude.

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Speaker 1: There were some passes where like he kept doing that

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like you know, kind of the he just came. He's

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kind of like rolling it to the guy like the

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entry pat and I think it got picked off like twice,

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and it was just like dude, like, well, it's your

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telegraph of this and you're moving slowly while you're doing.

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Speaker 2: The steal and score by Kawhi at the end of

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the third quarter was inexcusable. Throwing that pass for Kawhi

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just to get an easy run out dunk with three

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seconds left in the third That was and they had

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five turnovers the last six minutes of the third quarter.

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also a trend going back at least a season now

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of as bad as the Lakers defense was for two

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and a half quarters, once they ramped up the ball pressure,

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the Clippers could not handle it. Yeah, and that has

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been an issue for years. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was exactly exposing anything on

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how to play the Clippers right now, but it does

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show if you have athletes who even for a bad

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defense a defense, right that's not like they tapped into

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what they usually are when they were playing that good defense.

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They just upped the pressure. But I think to answer

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the question, like Harden will start shooting better at some point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's at twenty six percent in January.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but also and we're winning him.

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Speaker 2: I honestly think he hit the biggest shot of the game.

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No disrespect to JC JC Saves and John Collins, but

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that three point a Harden hit after Luca hit the

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three to bring it to within two, which is the

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closest they got. He hesitated and then he took it

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and hit it because he hadn't been making him so

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that's probably why he hesitated. I'm hoping that goes a

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long way for him and just turn this round.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a big bucket.

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Speaker 1: I like this point from Sports and Fitness Frants zoo

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the weight when he was injured. Now he's playing good.

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Screw it, I'll take it. That is the nicest thing.

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Speaker 2: Anyone like that. Pretty bad games on the road trips.

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So it's amazing. You know, Zoo's playing much better now.

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It's like, I don't know, he look that great against Chicago.

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It's a day later now he now he's fine. He

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put on weight that since then.

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Speaker 1: People take it game by game with Sue, he's not

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allowed to have a body orc Yeah. I like that

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we're getting the ugly wins now. Like this is when

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they said the Clipper or the Lakers record and clutch

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games on the broadcast, they were what like thirteen. Yeah,

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I was like, so kind of like the Raptors their

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clutch time merchants.

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Speaker 2: They are close game that has inflated their record from

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the start of the season when you look at net

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rating and everything else, like, how the hell are the Lakers?

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they're not getting as many clutch time games now and

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they're starting to regrets to the met a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Clippers just kind of went the opposite

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way to start the season. You know, there were many

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close games that they just did not put away and

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things look a lot different that happened.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Williams is asking any word on Derek Jones junior

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return none at all. We'll get an update probably when

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he practices. That would be great. We do have to

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talk about there's a very important game on Sunday. It

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is against the Nets. And the reason this game is

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important for those of you who are unaware of this

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saga because Robert Flahm uh og Clippers blogger podcaster tend

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to be kind of a negative fan. I think he

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would admit to that as well. I don't mean that

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in a mean light, but we've seen Flom's twitter.

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Speaker 2: Is universally accepted. Oh yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We love Robert Flamm.

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Speaker 2: I call them the of Clipper Nation.

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Speaker 1: Yes, bond Clippers said we're going This was back in December.

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We're going fifteen and three after the Demard de Rosen

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trade and losing round one to Houston. The prophecy he

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has been written. Robert Flaum said if they go fifteen

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and three in any stretch this season, I will print

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and eat this tweet. Well, folks, guess what the Clippers

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can do on Sunday. They can go fifteen and three

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during this stretch and Robert Flamm will have to print

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and eat that tweet. Will Adam Will, how would you

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eat the How would you prepare You're the best cook

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of the crew. How would you prepare this if you

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were Robert Flahm. Should the Clippers win.

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Speaker 3: Well, the paper is kind of harsh, So I'd maybe

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cook down a little wine, cook that thing up so

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often and up a little bit maybe maybe maybe do

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like a spring roll type thing stuff with some pressures.

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Speaker 1: You're using it as like the et cetera.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, use it as a use it as like

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a rice paper, but a pulp paper, uh, sort of

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wrapper to like a spring roll type thing, I think

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is what I'm feeling right now.

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Speaker 1: That's a good call. Do you think it would be?

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Could he reduce it to where it disintegrated and then

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just put it in a ragoo or something?

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Speaker 2: M M.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't really seem to be in the spirit of

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the right. Okay, unless it's a crow raggy, Unless it's

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a crow.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea.

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Speaker 2: I think one time Berner Herzog challenged a film student

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is like, if you ever make a film, I'll eat

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my shoe. And that guy did. He stood up and

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cut pieces of his shoe in a.

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Speaker 1: There's a video of it. Really I should watch that.

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Uh the nets are not. I well, I think that's

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a great idea. I was gonna say, put ketchup on it.

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M that was gonna be mine.

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Speaker 2: If you had an assembly line of cupcakes, like, would

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it be considered like if they're just like stamping them

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with this icing, could that be like a print.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess that seems a lot more elaborate.

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What do we think he's going to have to eat paper?

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The Nets? Recently? They scored sixty six points the other night.

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They play the Celtics today, they might not be doing.

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Speaker 2: So if Robert Blaum doesn't eat paper, I'll eat paper

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if they lose to the Nets. No, No, I won't

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clip that. I won't don't clip that part context me.

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Speaker 1: Do we think will do we think the Clippers are

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going to run into if say, the Nets lose tonight

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to the Celtics, let me check if they might be done? Oh,

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they're up six at halftime. Honestly, we need the Nets

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to win tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're span And do they know about the

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paper thing? Can we get this Charlie Widows? Is he

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still with their organization? Can we get this information to him?

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Can they help us out? It would be in their

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best interest if the Clippers won too, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the players don't care about that on the court.

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Speaker 1: I don't want tweets. I don't even know what that means.

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Will do you think we're getting the dub?

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling good about it, man, I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 1: We beat them earlier this month. Jordan Miller scored twenty

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one in that game and Kaui had thirty one. This

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time it's going to be reversed. Jordan Miller has thirty one.

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I mean that'd be great. Adam, how are you feeling

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about this game?

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Speaker 2: I'd be feeling especially good if I knew if Kawhi

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was on the off the minister fiction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did like how Tyleru managed it right, Like.

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but it was done the right way in case they

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needed to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the other game where they had to

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bring him back in? Was that the horn here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Was that the Hornets game? Where like they were playing

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a team that they should have beat.

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Speaker 2: I think it was the Hornets, but that wasn't Kauhi

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and a minister section.

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Speaker 1: It just oh, it was the Wizards. It was He

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played right at thirty minutes against the Wizards, like last week,

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they had another horrific third quarter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't have to come back at all.

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We should be able to beat the Nets and they

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should make him eat paper. Do you think he can

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come on this? Do you think he's gonna stream it.

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Speaker 2: He should. Nobody's gonna believe him otherwise. Pressure. I mean,

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this is big Clipper Nation content. We need this, we

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need this, Clippers redd it is frothing at the mouth

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for this. I mean, we have WTF Eric going going

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off right now, But Robert Flomp could help.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine the content, Imagine imagine what the viewers want.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's hope his video doesn't glitch out like Chucks

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has been doing currently and just did to where he

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had to leave was to get unforted.

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Speaker 3: Spectrum folks, do we want to do twenty minutes on that.

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Speaker 2: I'm still in the first year, so I got a

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good deal promotional offer.

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Speaker 3: It's just a monopoly. I can't get an internet service

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from any other provider where I'm at, so that inherently

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pisses me off.

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Speaker 2: That's that type of thing. You're good with the Clippers

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winning on Sunday, no issues. Will you think they got

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this one in the bag?

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Speaker 3: I think they got this one in the bag, especially

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just coming off the road trip that they did so

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well on four and one. I think they're primed for it.

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They seem locked in right now. And I do think

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that Charles and I were both like kind of commenting

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on how yes, there was frustration on the court when

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during that Lakers comeback, at no point did it feel

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like anyone was panicking. Now, it did feel normally like

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I mean, it did feel, you know, from watching it

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as a fan, like the Lakers could definitely come back

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and go continue that run there, But it didn't feel

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like on the court for the Clippers that there was

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a lot of like undue stress like no, like no, no,

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one seemed like overly tied about it. There was urgency

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of course, uh, and you could tell the guys we're

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getting frustrated for some other reasons on the court, but

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at no point where they like operating under the gun

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where it felt like wow that you know, they've really

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got impressed here. So like I I just think that

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I don't know, man, maybe that is the one benefit

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to losing a lot and being in a lot of

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close games even when they don't like, you know, go

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your way, is that like you know, you're you're gonna

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kind of stay the stay the course and stay steady

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for the most part. Like there were some bad turnovers,

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I mean a lot of that. A lot of the

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player looked a lot better in the in that last ram,

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than the than the end the third quarter there. But

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I do think, I just do think that they're they're

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in a spot right now where they can roll through

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a lot of adversity.

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Speaker 2: The turnovers are my one concern normally. I'm not only

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seventeen last night nineteen twenty twenty. No, maybe it wasn't twenty.

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It was too many in the second half, that's for

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damn sure. And really they all occurred in the last

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seventeen minutes of the ballgame, and it's just a trend

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and a pattern with this team, the turnovers, Chuck, I think.

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Speaker 3: That fatigue is pretty apparent on the court.

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Speaker 1: They hit a wall so hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you see.

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Speaker 2: There was a twenty five to four run or a

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twenty four to five run by the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's another reason why you see that

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intense ball pressure be so effective, because like not only

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is it, you know, like outside there the regular scope

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of comfortability, they're tired on top of it, and that's

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when you start to see those turnovers and stuff sort

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of amount.

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Speaker 1: You see with Jordan Miller, he stops passing, Yeah, he

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gets crazy tunnel vision not and again not knocking Jordan Miller.

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We needed all of his points and he's been phenomenal,

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but that's his like he's tired Marker. It's just you

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saw a little bit last night where it was like, dude,

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you gotta let this one go, like move the ball somewhere.

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Speaker 2: They need. We said this last year's trade deadline, I

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talked about calling secon a lot. Then they could really

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use a guy like that to break the press. Yeah,

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they really could.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is everything is waiting for either Cat or

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Yannis to happen?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're Cat in there now too.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean everything feels like everything's held up. There's

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what two weeks a week.

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Speaker 2: Comingo, are they gonna trade Kminga? Now he's hurt, Jimmy

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and now yeah he gets hurt. It's yeah, that first

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domino to fall. But they're just that sense of urgency.

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The closer we get to February fifth and maybe we're

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just waiting. It is rare to have the big moves.

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I think Blake Griffin, that happened like maybe a week

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before or two weeks before, when the Clippers trade him

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to Detroit the trade deadline. That was one of the

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preliminary type pig trades.

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Speaker 1: Someone in the comments was asking, uh, we were talking

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about when Derek Jones Junior gets back, if they should

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move Chris Dunn back to the bench and so it

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would be Collins and Derrick Jones Junior. But I was like,

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that's I mean, I could see why you would think that,

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but I think Harden just has way too much responsibility.

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Like Chris Dunn still does bring the ball up a

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little bit for the first unit.

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Speaker 2: He's been doing it a lot lately too. He's been

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bringing the ball into the front court and Harden's been

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playing off the ball from when I've seen a lot

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more the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that it was effected. I thought it

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was highly effective on a couple of possessions last night.

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That was a good spot to get hard and off

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the ball, open up the floor a little bit more.

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And so yeah, I think for right now, I mean,

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you know, best record over the last fifteen games or whatever,

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there's there's no need that there's no need to make

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a change.

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Speaker 2: The goal coming into the season was to have three

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ball handlers out there at all times. Obviously that went

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by the wayside with Bradley Beal and CP three, but

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no they're not going to take away another guy. Have

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you seen DJ bring the ball into the front court?

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It doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: Even call it Collin DJ. No, someone saying Kobe White

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would be ideal. I wouldn't be mad at Kobe White,

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but I don't know what the price is. I don't

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think would be great of what they want. I would

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What is their price on Kobe White?

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Speaker 2: I mean they're in danger of losing him for nothing

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because he's an unrestricted free agent, is the thing. So

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he only makes twelve million?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what we don't have anything they want for twelve

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million dollars?

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Speaker 2: Maybe DJ.

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Speaker 1: That would hurt, That would sting.

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Speaker 2: It would hurt. But I totally understand it. I don't

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I don't want to see DJ go.

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Speaker 1: But is he a hurt guy now? Is he an

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injury prone guy now after this?

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Speaker 2: Or no?

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Speaker 1: He played games before this? Yeah, like he's played a

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lot of games ahead of this one season.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about non contact injuries. We're talking about

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two of the most fluky, unlucky injuries against the team

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with the damn four leaf clover.

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Speaker 1: This is very funny. So how many kob do you

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all want on this team? Very good? Thank you? Mick Jones.

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Speaker 2: If you get Kobe White for DJ, you are re

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signing Kobe White. Yes. The real question is how much

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is he going to demand?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Because DJ has one year under contract after this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he does, and he's only a ten million Yeah,

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this person is saying they would trade Nico Nico makes

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five million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Because they're not trading Nico twice away from the Clippers.

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It's not happening.

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Speaker 1: Also, what are you trading him for? Like he's too

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good for what he does? I know he's not, like

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he's but for what he does with the Clippers need

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They pointed this out on the broadcast last night. Who

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inbounds the ball when it's important? Nick Wato does.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, even he had a bad turnover last night that

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I couldn't believe.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank god Luca uh hesitated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he turned down the catch and shoot, that was

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him trying to get to his step back that he missed.

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Speaker 1: He's not really a big moments guy.

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Speaker 2: Definitely not against the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: He's not really a moment's guy. You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Does he ever won a playoff game with the step

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back three against the Clippers. I doubt it.

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Speaker 1: That Mexican nar asking how much is John Collins going

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to ask for in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: That's why when people question I had law on last

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night and I put out what he said today and

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he's wondering if John Collins will still be on the team,

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and that freaked out a lot of people. After the

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trade deadline, it's like, well, there is a real decision

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to be made. You don't want to lose him for nothing.

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Is he playing so well that you're going to be

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priced out from being able to bring him back if

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he continues to shoot fifty percent from three over the

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next two months, Like it's just amazing to be the same.

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People are like, well, I guess it didn't work, or

475
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,559
now like we can't trade Collins? Are you kidding me?

476
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,920
First of all, he's not going to continue to shoot

477
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,839
this well from the outside for two you don't know that.

478
00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:03,000
We know that there will be some regrets us I don't.

479
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,720
I'm not saying I want him to leave, But the

480
00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:09,680
people think, how could you even consider it? Well, because

481
00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:11,880
he could price you out and you could end up

482
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,240
losing him for nothing.

483
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:18,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think collins deal looks like like

484
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:20,319
his contract? Yeah?

485
00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: Is it higher? Than twenty five million year, That's what

486
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:24,559
I'm wondering.

487
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: No, if he continue, if he ends up shooting like

488
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:31,559
forty three percent from three maybe yeah.

489
00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:32,839
Speaker 3: So an you think he's like in four for one

490
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,240
twenty range just seems like.

491
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: A lot three for ninety, No, three for eighty.

492
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: That would be fine with me. That contract doesn't seem crazy.

493
00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: You don't think he'll look for four years though, yeah,

494
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:51,079
because he's isn't he twenty eight right now?

495
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: He's gonna be twenty nine?

496
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, you represented by Clutch.

497
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: He just got five for one twenty five, he's twenty eight. Yeah,

498
00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:07,079
he's gonna be that different. Four for twenty I don't know.

499
00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:09,519
That still doesn't seem like a terrible contract, I guess

500
00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:11,279
for twenty eight year old John Collins.

501
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like a freaking month ago, we were all

502
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:18,079
talking about how he's not gonna get twenty six like

503
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,160
he has now annually, and now a month later, that's

504
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:29,079
pretty reasonable. But I mean, yeah, what has changed is

505
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,920
also the hot shooting. It's not sustainable, but he's also

506
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,119
doing you don't know that he's also doing everything else

507
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,640
he's supposed to be doing very well.

508
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,599
Speaker 1: To his credit, he's crashing the Lords, he's doing all

509
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:45,559
the athletic stuff. It's not just the shooting that's making

510
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,119
him good.

511
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't begrudge him whatever he can get. He's good

512
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,279
as much as he can, no doubt. Uh. It's just

513
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,759
interesting that the problem initially with Collins was that he's

514
00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:00,680
not living up to his expectations. Now he's gone to

515
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,039
the other end. Well, maybe he's overshooting it. And now

516
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:05,960
you have a decision to make. Where are we going

517
00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:07,440
to be able to pay this guy?

518
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

519
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:12,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, can we with the Apron stuff?

520
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, I think they will be able to because

521
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:25,039
I think they'll have his bird rights. I don't think

522
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:28,720
it's an issue of they can't retain him. I think

523
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,240
it's how much do you want to pay?

524
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta get some people on the books. People

525
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,400
are saying, well, we still have to resign. We have

526
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,240
sub designed Kobe and Jordan Miller. Those aren't gonna be

527
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:43,039
huge contracts.

528
00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:45,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we did talk about that last episode. Clearly

529
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,839
that's like the biggest, the first and largest hurdle that

530
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,880
the Clippers are aiming for then, before the and the

531
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,119
free agency, that was.

532
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: The biggest thing for that clutch point strder. Yeah, like,

533
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,240
it's like, that's and really I already number one. I

534
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,000
can't fault him. I gotta get Chris Paul off the

535
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,279
team somehow. I have no idea who is going to

536
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:10,599
take Chris Paul that he'd apparently want point guard help.

537
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:12,759
We got one, the point god.

538
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,599
Speaker 3: Some call him. We still call him that. He's that good.

539
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: He's great. For him.

540
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:24,839
Speaker 2: Tom Collins is shooting sixty three from three in January.

541
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:31,079
It's like ten games. If you add in about three

542
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,759
more games from December, it's still at sixty percent, or

543
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,519
like five, or we're talking like fifteen games where he's

544
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:42,000
shooting sixty percent from three. Nuts how many more games

545
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,759
were left? Hit a huge one last night, thirty nine.

546
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, he only went one for three last night.

547
00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:52,759
Horrific by his latest standards.

548
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:56,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he hit the one that mattered exactly.

549
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: We also had him on post game and it was awesome.

550
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:03,440
Carla was like, Adam as user player to watch and

551
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,720
he wants to thank you and calls was like, I say,

552
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,119
what's up.

553
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,559
Speaker 1: That's awesome? Hell yeah, yeah. We don't go by Pingalore

554
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,160
rules here. You get a little more niche players of

555
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,720
the game. DJ D flew is saying, are we not

556
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:19,119
blowing this up again? Yeah, I don't think they're blowing

557
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,039
it up. They trade Zoo. They're blowing it up, but

558
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,079
they don't seem to be wanting to trade Zoo.

559
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:30,759
Speaker 2: Everybody went from blowing up to know people still everybody.

560
00:30:31,079 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like what you said, Adam, it's like, what

561
00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:38,839
are the offers? Any crazy offers gonna be considered?

562
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,279
Speaker 2: For sure?

563
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,079
Speaker 1: Right, Like yeah, pixing a guy for Zoo of course?

564
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,599
Like then it's like, yeah, why not? But like I also.

565
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: Hold on to him and maybe get those offers this summer.

566
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: Still, Like right, there's keep him or keep them or

567
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,799
just keep them. A lot of people are bringing up

568
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:08,640
Mathine in the chat. They're saying Mathrine and Missy might

569
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,599
be traded straight up. So I mean the Pacers would

570
00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:16,000
be willing to sacrifice more for a ready center. I

571
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,119
don't know. I don't know if Mathrone's good. I used

572
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:19,400
to like him, and then I was reading a bunch

573
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,160
of Pacers Twitter stuff. People don't seem not bummed if

574
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:22,799
he's gonna go.

575
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:28,279
Speaker 2: I like him, I'm a fan, but I was a

576
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:30,359
big family came out of Arizona. I thought he'd be

577
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:32,599
a little bit further along by now, but it's also

578
00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:36,640
a different type of situation. He's been in there Indiana

579
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,960
where they got good really quickly, So it didn't like

580
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:43,519
give him a ton of these to just you know,

581
00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:47,039
feel his oats out there and being able to play

582
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:48,119
through him a little bit more.

583
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:51,119
Speaker 3: It really just depends because I mean Chuck has brought

584
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:54,920
this up before too, Like I think Matherne is interesting.

585
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,279
You really are looking at changing what the goals of

586
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:03,240
this franchise and everything are if that's your your zoom move,

587
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:08,720
because I don't see that being a successful combo with

588
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:14,039
Kawhian Harden and I like, I just don't know, like

589
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:16,079
that would just change. I mean, that just changes the

590
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:19,200
trajectory of of what we currently know them to be

591
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,079
looking for. I mean maybe Matherine due to like you know,

592
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:24,599
some slumping and some cooling on him, like if the

593
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,079
price is right, but still just from a talent perspective

594
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,680
of what you're putting out there on the floor, I

595
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:31,519
just I don't know that that's enough in.

596
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,799
Speaker 1: The West, And who else would they add right, like

597
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:36,839
because I think the idea too was like it'd be

598
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:39,440
Benedict Mathern and like who else from the Pacers. Would

599
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:46,000
we want to like tyrees like Obi Toppin and TJ McConnell.

600
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,240
I would love of TJ McConnell. But I don't think

601
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,359
that's a fair trade for feats.

602
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:57,279
Speaker 2: Well, I assume they're giving up a couple of picks,

603
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:03,039
Yeah maybe topping. How does that money work? Isn't top

604
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,599
and making like they're still not going to.

605
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,319
Speaker 1: Be like bad?

606
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:05,759
Speaker 2: Though?

607
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: Is the other part about the Pacers, like the the picks.

608
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:14,440
I don't know what I'm saying, Like how good are

609
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:15,799
from the Pacers?

610
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

611
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,599
Speaker 2: Like do they own their pick this year? Is the question?

612
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

613
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: Because yeah, like if they're looking to get right back

614
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,839
into the mix next season, yea, if.

615
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,599
Speaker 3: It doesn't include the pick this year, I mean the value.

616
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: I mean that like.

617
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,319
Speaker 3: Sure even if it's two or three first like that's

618
00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:37,079
it's rather two or three like seconds almost they have

619
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:42,319
their own this year. Yeah, that would mean that would

620
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:44,680
be very difficult to get the deal.

621
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think they would give away

622
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,319
this year's pick for.

623
00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't think there isn't it really supposedly really good

624
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:52,240
draft too.

625
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't get to go this bad this season

626
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,640
not to have their number their first round draft pick.

627
00:33:58,759 --> 00:33:59,559
That's not happening.

628
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: It's a good call. People are saying, get Malik Monk.

629
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,559
It's just little moves like these are. Like, I still

630
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:11,719
think it's interesting they weren't shopping Bogie heard that article.

631
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:16,440
But I also wonder if they're for an offer. Yeah,

632
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,840
like he's not. There's no timeline for him to be back. Oh,

633
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,239
Lucas hit me up earlier today, he said, are we

634
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,599
interested in some brand integration if they If they get

635
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:34,320
the win on Sunday, he said, absolutely so. We will

636
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,599
have the stream of Robert Flahm eating paper, the synergy

637
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,119
over here. The synergy We're gonna have to split that

638
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:46,079
four dollars and fifty cents. Those views will make those guys.

639
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,800
How do we feel about Cole Anthony? Firm bargain. I

640
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,679
know I'm probably wrong. I love Cole Anthony. I understand

641
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,000
his flaws. I've watched him play really good basketball against

642
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,000
the Clippers. We please fund watch Like.

643
00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: I think we talked about him this offseason.

644
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: Maybe I would like it selfishly.

645
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:11,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's three point shooting still down, but.

646
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: He can handle the ball really well, doesn't so like

647
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,000
as a I mean, he's also one of men. I

648
00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:21,800
don't know what do we.

649
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:23,639
Speaker 2: Like?

650
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: We're giving them, We're giving the bucks. CP three get

651
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,760
them back with Doc.

652
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,159
Speaker 3: It's match made and hand right.

653
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,639
Speaker 1: Now, especially as ship is just crumbling. Oh, that'd be

654
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:42,039
so funny. I would cackle at that.

655
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot cheaper than getting sexed in

656
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,000
or Kobe White. There's also a reason for that.

657
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Would be fun.

658
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,599
Speaker 2: I don't hate it.

659
00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, hip to clips. Sex has been mentioned by them. Yeah,

660
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:10,519
sex would be good. Some saying Kee George.

661
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,639
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here? Could we be real?

662
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: How is that?

663
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,079
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ nte George is like tipping on top fifteen

664
00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:18,840
player in the league and Utah's bad. Why would they

665
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,480
give up what their best young player? I'm sorry, that's

666
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:28,400
just Can we have some semblance of reality here?

667
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:35,039
Speaker 1: Alvarado for CP three Hell yeah, yeah, good do it? Sure?

668
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,599
CP three for anybody at this point we need the

669
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:43,079
roster spot. Guys are hurt.

670
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,159
Speaker 3: CP three for McConnell.

671
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 2: My guess is CP three is a part of a

672
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,800
larger trade. That doesn't mean for a big time player,

673
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,760
just their combining salaries.

674
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: I like this, I like this idea for Anthony Garcia. Actually,

675
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,320
let's get Prime shot. Yeah you got Yeah, Let's get

676
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,239
Shack and the general.

677
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: Oh.

678
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,639
Speaker 1: Last night was the first time I'd watched Blake Griffin

679
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:14,800
do the studio stuff. I thought he was really good.

680
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,199
Speaker 3: He was also in a large amount of the ads

681
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,920
he's in like Wingstop Ads, Wayfair Ads, a bunch of ads.

682
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: Good. That's a that's the thing for like studio hosts.

683
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:27,800
Now you see like the Spen guys like Chris Faller

684
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,480
and an ad and stuff. They get all those opportunities

685
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,559
to But I like the Prime crew overall.

686
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,679
Speaker 1: They were really good.

687
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: Lake's good. Ye setups grade, Rooks grade. They do a

688
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:38,840
great job.

689
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying that because they all love zoobots.

690
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely your favorite centers, favorite center Yeah.

691
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,159
Speaker 1: Yeah.

692
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:54,519
Speaker 2: I was watching my guy Jovann Booja last night give

693
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:57,760
the Lakers side of things. He's covered does coverage for them,

694
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,960
and he's really good with this analysis and was just

695
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:05,559
talking about how familiar. Yeah, there was a time where

696
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:07,320
he was covering the Clippers and he talked a bunch

697
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,639
about how what a monster eats the subots is And

698
00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:12,760
I'm just like, I thought about grabbing that clip and

699
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,480
posting it today, like this is how everybody else feels

700
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:23,760
about it beats to sup bots when they're talking actual ball.

701
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:28,239
It's the blowback of the inside the NBA crew where

702
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,159
you're seeing the NBC crew and the Amazon Prime guys

703
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,719
actually celebrate the game talkball talk, Xes and o's and

704
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,920
Adam Silver actually during I think the NBA Cup Final

705
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:43,440
went on there with the Amazon Prime guys and was like,

706
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,880
it's great to hear you guys talk about basketball. And

707
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,880
it definitely felt like Adam Silver was throwing shade at

708
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:52,039
Chuck Ernie and the guys.

709
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: Well he just said too, they've only been on.

710
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Speaker 3: TV for forty years.

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00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:08,519
Speaker 1: It's well, people don't want to hear and like, yeah, yeah.

712
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 2: This won't even get to hear what Charles said.

713
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: This is what people want to hear Charles right now.

714
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:18,079
So he might need a minute.

715
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,199
Speaker 2: See that's something Shack would do, Like he'd punch Chuck

716
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,199
and slap each other. That's like us here with T

717
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,360
and T guys with the Clippers stream.

718
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it like the TNT thing.

719
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,360
It's it's fine for entertainment, but it does. I do

720
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,880
just wish that it was balanced with some more.

721
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: Talk as well, I've just I've given up on that

722
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,760
from them. Yeah, and it's fine if that is, you know,

723
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:51,639
their niche or whatever, and it is entertaining. They're really funny. Unfortunately,

724
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:56,440
nobody's learned anything ever about basketball talking listening to them

725
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:58,920
talk when Shaq's out there saying.

726
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,599
Speaker 3: You forgot about that bull.

727
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: Bull's the same as Wemby and all these dumb ass

728
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,679
things like I'm sorry, but they don't watch games. They

729
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,639
self admittedly don't watch games, and they just want to

730
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,239
do the simplest thing, which is bag on the NBA,

731
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,320
which I think has done some maybe irreparable damage to

732
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,480
the brand over the years because a lot of people

733
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,079
think if they're saying it, they have credibility. They played

734
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:23,440
the game.

735
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,519
Speaker 3: You know what I'm the most worried about. You know

736
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:29,760
why I watched basketball. I'm concerned with the bottom line

737
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:35,039
for the NBA. Forget about the championships, forget about everything else.

738
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,280
I want to know, are the governors being enriched.

739
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,559
Speaker 2: I don't care about that part, but I don't love

740
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,920
the perception of the NBA that the game is worse

741
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:49,679
or stuff like that, which has a lot of old heads. Yeah,

742
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,360
they throw red meat to the old heads shaking their

743
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,719
physic clouds and thinking it was so much better, and

744
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,960
then you actually watch like a forty eight minute game

745
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,199
and not just highlights from the nineties, and you're like, yeah,

746
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,679
it's definitely better now, guys, trust.

747
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,559
Speaker 3: Me, Yeah, it's a way better looking gain.

748
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,079
Speaker 2: It is like that. Yah, Brucelli is one of those

749
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:11,719
guys that I've been looking at. I'll throw another guy

750
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,239
out there if Chuck ever comes back.

751
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:15,599
Speaker 1: Yah.

752
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 2: Bruscelli has had a horrific season with New York and

753
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,360
it's the n Season Tournament Champion curse where their season

754
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,119
has fallen off a cliff with the Knicks ever since

755
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:28,000
they won.

756
00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:30,119
Speaker 3: I only thought that was kind of a weird sign

757
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,199
fit wise for them.

758
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, his three point shooting had to hold up, and uh,

759
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:40,119
I don't think it has Yeah, and.

760
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 3: Just create space and issues for sure, Like I don't.

761
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: Know, uh, and I like, you know, they brought it.

762
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:50,920
He's only shooting thirty percent from the outside this year.

763
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,400
He's shooting thirty eight percent last year. I like Mike Brown,

764
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,840
but there's been a lot of turmoil him Cat now

765
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,519
that and that goes back to training camp or it

766
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:04,760
just seemed like Kat was not overly enthusiastic about them

767
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,639
switching out the head coach and bringing in Mike Brown. Yeah,

768
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:09,679
so he could. He's a guy that could be available,

769
00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:12,639
who unfortunately it looks like right now they bought high on,

770
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:16,679
although they've got him for a reasonable contract. But Yaboucelli's

771
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,079
interesting to me. I think that's something to monitor at

772
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,679
least I don't obviously it would only work if the

773
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,920
Clippers were already trading John Collins, because yeah, he's that

774
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,519
type of archetype we were talking about could they get

775
00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:34,679
if it's not John Collins' past offseason? Is Yah Boucelli

776
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,480
the guy you could bring in And he had such

777
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,400
a good year last year with Philadelphia, but it's gone

778
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,239
the other way now.

779
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: And looked great on the international stage.

780
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,079
Speaker 2: He did dunked on Lebron and I bet wherever he

781
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:52,039
ends up going like, the numbers turn around pretty quickly.

782
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:56,039
I mean, we're talking about guy. He's getting nine minutes

783
00:42:56,079 --> 00:43:01,000
per game, he's averaging three points per game. He was

784
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:05,480
fantastic last year in Philadelphia, playing heavy minutes, and I

785
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,079
know they had a lot of injuries so it led

786
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:08,880
to him getting more minutes. But he had a great

787
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,599
year with them.

788
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he probably thought he was gonna have a

789
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,960
bigger role than nine minutes.

790
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: A little bit, you would think. And he is somebody

791
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,679
that can play the five and power forward a little bit.

792
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:29,000
But see, everybody doesn't see the vision like this guy

793
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,719
Budinski over here. Y'abusili is cool, but he's been duky lately.

794
00:43:33,639 --> 00:43:35,920
Do you think he just like fell off a cliff?

795
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,159
Was his play or is it just a bad fit

796
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:41,039
there in New York? Like he hasn't had some major injury.

797
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,679
It's that type of things. I don't give up on

798
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,840
guys like that. I have heard he's gained a little

799
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,199
bit of weight. I did hear that.

800
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: There were also some reports that he was mainly staying

801
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,400
in the NBA for the insurance.

802
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: So that's real.

803
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: Because once you're in the league a certain amount of years,

804
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,679
like your health insurance is covered for life through the

805
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:08,480
player's association, and then x amount of years and your

806
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:10,199
family is covered as well.

807
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:15,599
Speaker 2: Makes sense. I get it as a reason.

808
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: For not just playing a bigger role internationally.

809
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,199
Speaker 2: I just I wouldn't give up on them. And somebody's

810
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,679
likely to trade for him, and he's likely to turn

811
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,920
things around, all right. We got anything else we need

812
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,559
to hit on here big will, because I don't think

813
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:32,679
Chuck's coming back.

814
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: I think that'll do it for this one.

815
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: Are we able to end the stream or just Chuck

816
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,920
have to get his internet back on to officially end

817
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,320
it since he started the stream?

818
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I hope we.

819
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,199
Speaker 2: Can if we both just leave. Are they just gonna

820
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,360
be stuck in the void, just watching the background for

821
00:44:55,559 --> 00:44:56,000
our show.

822
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,159
Speaker 3: If that happens, Chat among yourselves.

823
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 2: Chat you can keep going. We got a piece out here.

824
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 3: But thank everybody for tuning in. If you're listening to

825
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,440
this on audio, you missed this.

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Speaker 1: This was over at.

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Speaker 3: YouTube dot comments at Clippers Podcast, subscribe, hit the notification.

828
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You'll know when we're doing stuff like this. For everybody

829
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:19,320
who did tune in, thank you so much for leaving

830
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,519
your comments. But however, you listen, Harvey, you watch, you know,

831
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:26,599
we appreciate you. Charles is coming back in Charles.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, We're gonna have Robert flaub on my stream.

833
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:34,599
It's gonna be powered by whatever. The opposite of my

834
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,480
technology is. No, let's go clips. Let's get another dub

835
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,599
And I don't know. I hope Kawhi is healthy. I

836
00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:44,960
think he's gonna be off the injury report completely. Let's

837
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,840
just be hyped on that. There we go, all right

838
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:49,800
bye everybody,