WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.679 --> 00:00:13.960 Hey, Joe Escalante live from Hollywood. We are back. It's 2 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:16.160 two hours of the business, end of show business. Last 3 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:19.359 week I caught the one and only Tom Jones at 4 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:23.160 Harrah's Casino in Valley Center, California. A place she'll never 5 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:28.000 find unless you really go there on purpose. It's really 6 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:31.280 an Indian reservation where I once played there with the 7 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:35.119 vandalsin It's where things like like a thirteen year old 8 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:37.159 girl driving a truck, you know, just they just do 9 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:41.200 whatever they want down there on the reservation. Anyway, Tom 10 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:45.479 Jones was awesome, good to be back. Can't really move, 11 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:49.799 is got two hip replacement surgeries or something. But he 12 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:52.960 is worth seeing and he's still playing. He's still playing 13 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:56.840 like Coasta Mesa at the Siegers Strum at Las Vegas. 14 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:03.079 I believe maybe he's playing at another casino, Ago Caliente 15 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:09.159 in Ranchmarrage, So check them out if you can. Then 16 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:11.239 it was off to Florida with a Sublime crew for 17 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:14.920 the Welcome to Rockville Festival in the Daytona Speedway. 18 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:17.719 Massive, just a. 19 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:21.439 Massive, the biggest show the band has played other than Coachella, 20 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:28.280 and it was tremendous just watching everything unfold, And that's 21 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:30.719 what I do on about half the weekends. I go 22 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:36.239 with Sublime and manage their I mean there's a tour manager, 23 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:38.640 there's a production manager, there's a day to day manager. 24 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:42.599 But then those people need some kind of supervision rights him. 25 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:42.920 Yeah. 26 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:46.400 Absolutely, and it's good to hear that. Even like, I 27 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:48.200 don't want to call you a music mogul, but you're 28 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:51.000 as close as as a music mogal as anybody as 29 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:53.840 I know. You still take the time to go back 30 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.079 and actually catch the shows you like, like Tom Jones, Now, 31 00:01:57.079 --> 00:01:58.040 did you throw underwear? 32 00:01:58.359 --> 00:01:59.640 No, but I got. I made sure I got a 33 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:02.519 show in this second row so that my wife could 34 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:06.040 see the underwear throwing taking place because he's young. She 35 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.520 don't remember the TV show or stuff like that. And 36 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:11.120 the and the underwear was just flying. It still flies, 37 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:16.240 it flies. Yeah, So I loved that. And then with 38 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:18.439 the band, you know, I just want to be there. 39 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:23.560 I only manage Sublime, and technically a kind of manager 40 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:28.719 of the ataris someone in the organization does really all 41 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:32.520 the work. And then I do manage Josh Freeze, the 42 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:35.240 former drummer of the Foo Fighters, which was big viral 43 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:39.360 news this weekend. That was a pain in the ass. 44 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:46.520 But Josh Freese is available. Well, actually he's available, but 45 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:48.639 he has like ten shows of The Vandals coming up, 46 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:51.439 so be careful. You've got offer him a lot of 47 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:54.000 money because we pay him a lot. The Vandals pay 48 00:02:54.080 --> 00:02:55.639 Josh Freese a lot. If you don't know who, Josh 49 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:57.319 Freese is the most famous drummer in the world, just 50 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:02.840 about and definitely the best. And he plays drums in 51 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:04.719 The Vandals. He's in the Food Fighters for the last 52 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:07.800 couple of years. And you know you've heard the news 53 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:11.120 about the Food Fighters in the last year. Yeah, it's weird. 54 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:12.639 He kind of joined him at the wrong time, right 55 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:16.159 before Dave Girl decided to reveal that he has a 56 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:20.639 love child. And then they canceled the tour and the 57 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:24.599 rest of the stuff sat at home, and then they go, 58 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:27.520 all right, we're gonna go back up, but we're gonna 59 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.719 do with a different drummer. So we don't know what 60 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:34.280 it's all about. They don't say anything. No, no, they 61 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:38.319 said they won't release a statement and they won't give 62 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:42.319 a reason, so you know, you can do the math yourself. 63 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:46.240 Josh loved the guys, love playing with them. I loved 64 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:52.560 going on there out of town dates. And but it's 65 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:54.680 all the guys in the band are cool, but there's 66 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:58.319 rich stuff going on, you know, and Dave girl needs 67 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.800 to work it out because that's like families stuff going on. 68 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:04.439 That is uh. I don't think anyone would trade places 69 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:07.680 with him what he's going through. You know, he's got 70 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:10.280 a head to tell his mom or his wife that 71 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:15.840 that he had a baby somewhere else and then and 72 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.319 he worked it out though, so maybe that maybe it's 73 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:19.000 all for the best. 74 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:24.720 It's usually those moments that cause people to take time 75 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:26.800 to reflect, and it seems like that's what he needed 76 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:27.079 to do. 77 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:30.000 Yeah, he did. He needed to pump the brakes reflect 78 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:33.600 and if this is the what what it means, we 79 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:36.240 wish him luck? All right, Well, I didn't squeeze any 80 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:42.000 movies in h with all the traveling. But later on 81 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:43.360 in the second hour of the program, I got a 82 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:46.920 real character for you, seam. He's a movie fiend, does 83 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:49.199 a real live movie fiend, likes movies more than I do. 84 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:51.920 And he's got, you know, some opinions on theaters in 85 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:55.279 Orange County and various movies. Will we'll have fun conversation. 86 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:56.680 That's in the second hour. If you don't like it 87 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.759 you just you know, turn the radio down, don't turn 88 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:03.519 it out though, And of course we're going to hit 89 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:06.199 all the big stories, the business stories like we usually do, 90 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:08.879 run down the box office numbers. There's a new horror 91 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:13.360 flick on top, and we'll dive into some heavier stuff, Sam, because, 92 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:16.399 as you know, the P Diddy tryout in New York 93 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:20.439 is going to enter it. Second week. We got Cassie 94 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:25.319 Ventura testimony and we'll be reporting on that. And there's 95 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:29.600 also Harvey Weinstein is a retrial, and even Nathan Felder 96 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:32.319 is in trouble, or at least there's a controversy around 97 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:39.720 his latest show on HBO called The Rehearsal. Talk about HBO. 98 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:41.199 Why do they change your name so much? 99 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:42.240 Sir? 100 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:48.319 Elton John is making noise about AI and it's Disney's 101 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:50.959 seventieth anniversaries, all kinds of stuff going on there. 102 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:53.879 I'm just happy Elton John is making any kind of 103 00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:55.480 noise at this point of his career. 104 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:57.759 Well, he can move around. Do you think he's older 105 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.879 than I think he's a little younger than Tom Jones. 106 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:04.839 I'm sure he is. It's just Tom Jones made much 107 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:07.879 more of a career out of like being more physically gifted. 108 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:09.720 He was a good mover on the floor. He could 109 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:12.199 really shake it. Yeah, you never really saw too much 110 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:15.480 shaking out of Elton John. He just boogie wooget on 111 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:15.879 the piano. 112 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:17.040 He looked like a guy who was a little bit 113 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.920 out of shape, just taking it easy. Yeah yeah, and 114 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:23.560 not in a bad way. He's just like, I'm not 115 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:26.879 going to the gym, not going to do bench presses. Okay, 116 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:30.959 what's the top gross Before we hit the traffic, I'll 117 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:35.680 just run it down in the theater's final destination, Bloodlines. 118 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:38.680 Tell me if you saw any of these Sam Thunderbolts 119 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:41.040 number two, I don't want to see you another Marvel movie. 120 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:43.680 Three Sinners. Everyone says Centners is great. Have you seen it? 121 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:46.319 No, everybody says it's great, though, Okay. 122 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.839 Minecraft saw it? It is great? Saw it? Countain two? Okay? 123 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:49.079 Good? 124 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:52.680 The Countain two is It's the only one I really 125 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:54.639 want to see on this list. Then we got Hurry 126 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:58.079 Up Tomorrow from Lionsgate, Friendship from A twenty four Clown 127 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:01.079 in the Cornfield, I get it. It was a clown in 128 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:05.000 the cornfield, you know, until Dawn and the Amateur. Rounding 129 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:08.199 out the top ten, and I think we'll just take 130 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.199 a break right there, check the traffic, and we will 131 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:15.879 come back with Joe Ascalante Live from Hollywood. Joe Scalante 132 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:21.079 Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood, you mean Burdbank. So, Sam, 133 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:22.639 you didn't see a movie this week, but you didn't 134 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:24.920 see Minecraft. Yeah, and you soon went to the block 135 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:28.160 party ones where they tell everybody go ahead and throw popcorn. 136 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:31.800 Yeah. Yeah, it's one where they on screen like they've 137 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:34.879 they figured out what the things the fans were doing. 138 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:37.480 They kind of created traditions around it, rocky horror picture 139 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:40.360 or the room style. And they went and they put 140 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:42.879 on a screen the countdown and then at you know, 141 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:45.360 three two one, and then they put the words on 142 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:49.680 the screen that everybody should be screaming chicken jockey, Chicken jockey, yeah, exactly, 143 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:52.079 or lava Chicken. They put the words to lava Chicken 144 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:54.560 on there. So everybody was singing along with Jack Black 145 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:57.040 in the movie. See that's the kind of thing I like. 146 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:59.360 And you saw there was, you know, on the screening 147 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.399 that I went to use. People were really timid because 148 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.639 they brought their kids. They didn't know what to expect. 149 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:06.399 But you know, somebody was waiting to throw the popcorn 150 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:08.480 and they were just waiting for one person to start it. 151 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:10.360 So then you know, like the first domino and then 152 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:15.040 everything falls after that. That's kind of stuff is really cool. 153 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:18.759 It made it so that people did midnight screenings religiously 154 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:21.560 of movies like the Room every week and every month 155 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:23.079 whenever it was screening around town. 156 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:25.920 Man, does the movie industry need that? Because you got 157 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:28.399 young boys. If young boys are going to the movies, 158 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:31.879 the girls will come. Oh yeah, you know it's if 159 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:33.639 the girls are at the mall, the boys will come. 160 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:37.240 So good for them, and you know it's just a 161 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:41.960 little extra popcorn, you know, pick up. But I noticed this. 162 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:45.759 There's so many more employees at the cinema in Bellterra, 163 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:49.320 at the Beltera Mall in Huntington Beach. I'd say twice 164 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:52.679 as many as there were like a year ago. Nice 165 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:55.120 And so I mean the means and bathrooms are cleaner 166 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:58.440 and the service is better, so thank you. 167 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:00.879 Yeah. And for you know, just to make it easier 168 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:05.120 on them, they only screened that movie once in that room, 169 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.320 so they don't have to repeatedly clean up a mess 170 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.080 over and over again. That's the kind of thing like 171 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:13.120 if you can if Hollywood can start making. I guess 172 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.399 movies that become like they don't have to obviously, don't 173 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:19.120 have to be outstanding, great works of art. They just 174 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:21.000 have to connect with the audience in a way that 175 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:22.480 makes them want to react. 176 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:24.080 It's true. 177 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:25.279 People want good movies. 178 00:09:25.480 --> 00:09:28.600 Yeah, so what you're saying, well, they crave they crave 179 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:31.559 reasonable movies that they can connect with. He doesn't have 180 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:31.919 to be good. 181 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:36.639 Yeah, they don't have to be great. Now. I was 182 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:39.080 listening to a podcast the other day, Brett Easton Ellis, 183 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:42.000 and he was talking about The Star Is Born, like 184 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:45.279 it came out in seventy six or seventy seven. By 185 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:48.759 many measures, many people believe it's a terrible movie. It's 186 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:55.240 a terrible movie with Chris Christopherson and and Bette Midler. 187 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:58.080 But that movie was like, I think the biggest movie 188 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:00.240 of the year or the second biggest of the year 189 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:05.200 of seventy six or seventy seven, and it was just everywhere. 190 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:08.000 I mean, it was just it was playing. It played 191 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:09.720 in the theaters that started in seventy six, and the 192 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:12.360 seventy eight it was still in the theaters, and it 193 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:14.879 was just so such a big part of everybody's life. 194 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:19.279 This star is born Barbara streisand Chris Christofferson, and I 195 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:22.360 don't mean very good, but somehow people connected with it. 196 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:25.039 And it used to be it played like all the 197 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:28.080 time at my theater, at the Fox in Brossmore, and 198 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:30.159 I had to see it four or five times. It 199 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:33.480 didn't really want to didn't like Barbara Streisand. 200 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:34.360 Were you trying to impress a girl? 201 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:36.120 No, I was too little. 202 00:10:36.279 --> 00:10:36.960 It was ten. 203 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.360 Oh geez, why'd you have to go to that over 204 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:40.000 and over again? 205 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:42.240 Because it was playing first it was playing, so I 206 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:44.279 would go see it. I see everything that went to 207 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:46.600 the theater, everything. I would see everything as soon it 208 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:48.720 was like, you know, as soon as they changed every 209 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.240 Wednesday would I'd be there watching the guy change the 210 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:55.720 sign because I lived so close to it. Then it 211 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:57.639 would come back as a double feature because in those 212 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:01.200 days almost all movies played as double features. So you paid, 213 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:04.159 and in those days, I think my rate was seventy 214 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:07.759 five cents for under for eleven or under, and there 215 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:09.639 was a there was an opening movie and then and 216 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:11.840 then another movie, and then you would stay and watch 217 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:14.919 the main movie again. So I saw many times. Uh, 218 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:17.159 and then so it was I just had to you 219 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:19.120 know there was otherwise, you know, I wasn't gonna do 220 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:23.240 go home and get beat up by my brother and sister. Okay, 221 00:11:23.399 --> 00:11:26.120 so yeah it doesn't It wasn't good. But it's a 222 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:28.960 huge movie, so I don't know if how well it aged. 223 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:36.000 But okay, let's move to streaming television. The Upfronts are 224 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:39.000 on right now, and television in general. Every year that 225 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.679 the television networks go to New York City around this 226 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:44.240 time and they do a big song and dance, like 227 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:48.919 they bring out the big stars like Lady Gaga or uh, 228 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:51.360 there's the other stars. They got a big star, think 229 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:55.399 a star, that's who's there, and and then they put 230 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:57.159 on a big show and tell everybody, Hey, this is 231 00:11:57.200 --> 00:11:59.279 our identity this year, and this is who we are, 232 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:05.200 and please buy airtime for your pepsis or your cars 233 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:08.279 or whatever. So it's going on. I think it's just 234 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:13.879 finishing up. And what the big thing that HBO Max, 235 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:18.000 which was called Max and their big announcement was we're 236 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:22.480 just calling it HBO. Yeah, I mean I think a 237 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:25.039 lot of people called it HBO. Anyway, they try to 238 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:27.159 call it Max. And when people change their name to 239 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.600 something that's so simple and it's known for many other 240 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:32.559 things like Twitter's X there's a big mistakes. 241 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:37.639 Well, and we already associated their brand of Max with Cinemax, 242 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:42.000 which we called skin Amax. Yeah, like we and then 243 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:44.720 they try to clip that and call that Max. So 244 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:48.240 I felt like we weren't even getting high quality HBO content. 245 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.919 We were getting what was the remnants of skin Amax. 246 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:55.080 Well, I'm not going to comment on that, but the 247 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.440 reasons they gave, or the reasons people are talking about, 248 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:00.000 is is they recognize the strength of the HBO brand 249 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:03.559 and HBO is synonymous with good movies. Like remember the 250 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:08.279 old campaign where they said I don't make movies, I 251 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:14.159 or like HBO. I forgot how they did that campaign. 252 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:15.399 I'm a good thing. I'm not in charge of it, 253 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:19.279 but like better than movies, HBO kind of a thing. 254 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:26.720 But do you remember that at I barely remember. I 255 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:29.559 see that thing. I did not get HBO. I had Showtime. 256 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:30.679 I was a Showtime house. 257 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:32.320 Okay, well I'm sorry, you're poor. 258 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:33.840 I know, I know. 259 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:39.960 The uh So they merged the really you know, prestige 260 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:42.639 movies of HBO and the prestige television. They merge it 261 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:46.559 with the slock that's on Discovery they're seventeen channels or 262 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:48.679 whatever they had. But what they found out is people 263 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:51.200 weren't watching that on streaming. People like the cable universe, 264 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:54.799 likes Discovery channels and all those adventure shows and stuff, 265 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:58.639 but the streamers don't really like it. And so most 266 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:02.480 people were watching HB anyway, and they thought there schlock. 267 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:05.840 Walmart people were intimidated by HBO, but they're not. They 268 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:08.519 like it. These people like good movies. People that go 269 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:12.919 to Walmart want to see White Lotus. Evidently they want 270 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:15.159 to stream it if they if they have it, if 271 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:20.120 they're watching, you know, some Alaskan you know trucker TV show, 272 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:25.320 I guess they watched it on cable. So and then 273 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:28.000 the stock was going down. So they needed a branding 274 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:32.879 to kind of make a market correction. They wanted more. 275 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:37.000 They thought they could get more subscriber growth by relying 276 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:41.759 on HBO. Everybody's talking about White Lotus, right, or The 277 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:48.600 Last of Us. They're not talking about Alaskan truckers or 278 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:49.679 whatever's on Discovery. 279 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:51.039 They're not. 280 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:55.080 I used to write for Discovery Idea. I d no 281 00:14:55.159 --> 00:14:57.320 one talked about us, although Saturday Night Live did a 282 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:03.679 skit based on my show True Nightmares. If you can 283 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:06.360 see True Nightmares, if you go to Discovery and then 284 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:08.879 look for Discovery ID and watch True Nightmares and you 285 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:12.480 see the episodes I wrote, you will be thrilled. Okay, 286 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:15.000 And you know they just HBO just acknowledged they made 287 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:20.960 a mistake. It's very sam so at Can. The biggest 288 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:24.759 news to come out of Can Film Festival is a 289 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:27.519 palm tree fell on a man who is walking along 290 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:32.200 the Cressette on Saturday in the east side, the seaside 291 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:36.000 French town of tom Authorities sped through festival goers to 292 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:39.039 tend to the person who laid injured and bleeding on 293 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.600 the sidewalk. You might want to check your laughter. No 294 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:46.840 information was immediately available on the person's condition. Representatives for 295 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:50.519 the festival didn't immediately respond to requests for comment. The 296 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:54.600 incident happened midday at the festival con which runs until 297 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:58.159 May twenty fourth. It is about halfway through. This is 298 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:04.080 the first palm tree injury of the season so but 299 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:07.600 so far no tall Mexican ships have crashed into any bridges, 300 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:12.559 so it's at this point a success. Joe Scalante Lie 301 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:18.679 from Hollywood coming back after this. Joe Sclante Lie from Hollywood. 302 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:21.360 We're here every Sunday from five to seven, two hours 303 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:24.200 at the business end of show business. K e IB 304 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:27.320 eleven fifty and your am dials. You drive around southern 305 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:33.519 California and you're convertible or you're jeep with no top 306 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:36.720 on it, that kind of stuff. You know, there was 307 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:38.480 someone in church in front of me today with a 308 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:46.600 shirt that said bikini Bottoms number one something. It's like 309 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:50.440 a SpongeBob reference. Yeah, okay, bikini bottoms. 310 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:53.480 Yeah, Bikini bottom is the town that. 311 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:55.279 He was fry cook. He was like number one fried 312 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:56.559 cook at Bikini Bottoms. 313 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:59.960 Or some Well that's the town he was fry cook 314 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.240 at the Krabby Patty. 315 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:01.840 The Crabby Patty. 316 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:02.399 Yeah. 317 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:05.960 I have kids, Okay, Well, if they go to church, 318 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:09.839 I would I would say extreme graphics in the back 319 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:11.519 of your oversized T shirt. 320 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:12.400 Not a good look. 321 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:18.839 Bikini bottoms. My wife bikini bottoms. She like bikini bottoms. 322 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:25.799 And I'm like, I guess, okay. So, speaking of the 323 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:38.240 Hollywood industry, ah Malia Obama. So she's a director of commercials. 324 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:42.240 She's like a young person aspiring to be a director, 325 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:45.480 and you know, she has a name for herself. She's 326 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:50.240 Malia Obama. Who doesn't want Malia Obama on their project. Well, 327 00:17:50.359 --> 00:17:54.480 Nike hired her to do a ad for a shoe 328 00:17:55.440 --> 00:18:01.279 and she's facing a scrutiny. Indie film maker Natalie Jasmine 329 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:05.039 Harris has accused Obama of copying scenes from her twenty 330 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:11.400 twenty four short film entitled Grace. Harris points to striking similarities, 331 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:15.920 particularly a scene featuring young black girls playing patty cake. 332 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:19.119 They call it pat a cake. No no, no to me, 333 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:24.799 it's patty cake, noting similar camera angles, shots, framing, and 334 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:29.599 color palette. Harris stated that she feels that, Okay, so 335 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:34.359 she says, you copied my work. You you know, you pig, 336 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:37.119 you copied my work. But then it's like not really 337 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:41.240 protected work, but someone she believes something she copied her work. 338 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:44.799 So then she kind of defaulted to this other complaint 339 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:48.039 and she said, like, there's not like I can do 340 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:50.119 about it. But she feels that brands should hire original 341 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:54.000 artists instead of celebrities. That's a pretty good point. Social 342 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:58.200 media has been divided, with some users agreeing with Harris 343 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:04.440 and other defending Obama, suggesting coincidence or a comment concept. 344 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:06.480 So I encourage you to go to YouTube and look 345 00:19:06.519 --> 00:19:11.039 at this, look at these two things. You got a 346 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:13.200 short film, you probably end up seeing a trailer for it, 347 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:17.039 and then you can see her Nike commercial. It's a 348 00:19:17.519 --> 00:19:21.839 black woman and her daughter playing patty Cake together on 349 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:25.279 a steps on steps and the angles are very similar, 350 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.039 and it's the theme is mother and daughter bonding playing 351 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:35.799 patty cake and it and then okay, so that's maybe 352 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:38.599 substantial similarity if if you want a copyright claim, you 353 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:42.319 need substantial similarity if you're going to prove it, maybe 354 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:45.359 maybe not. Then the second thing you need that our 355 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:48.279 listeners will remember, we haven't had a copyright case in 356 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:53.480 a long time. The second thing you need is access. Now, 357 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:59.319 if Malia Obama has never seen this short film, then 358 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:00.559 you have no access. 359 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:01.119 Now. 360 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:03.359 The more access you have, the less similarity you need. 361 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:05.799 The more similarity you have, the less access you need. 362 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:09.119 If it's an exact copy, and the person says, ah, coincidence, 363 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:14.920 it's not gonna fly. So did she have access? Well, 364 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:16.759 it turns out they were both in the same film 365 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:21.359 competition at one point. They were both where something that 366 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:28.440 Malia was done made and something that this Jasmine Harris made. 367 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:35.000 Natalie Jasmine Harris and I believe Malia saw it. So 368 00:20:35.799 --> 00:20:38.799 if that's true, then it looks like she saw it 369 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:43.599 and she loved it. And then she's hired to do 370 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:47.160 a Nike commercial and she thought, you know what I'm 371 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:50.119 gonna do. I'm going to recreate that mother daughter patty 372 00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:52.079 Cake thing. I was very moved by it. I think 373 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:53.519 it would make a great Nike commercial. 374 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:54.799 Is it illegal? 375 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:02.200 I don't think so. I think patty Cake black a 376 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:05.440 lady and her daughter is a bonding thing. And if 377 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:08.720 you want to depict it in a short film where 378 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:12.400 they're bonding over one thing, and you can also depict 379 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:15.720 it in a thing that it was a famous female 380 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.599 athlete was the mother in the Nike commercial and just 381 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:23.359 say that look she It shows her humanity and no 382 00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:26.200 relationship with their daughter. So I don't think it's illegal. 383 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.119 But the point is taken. You know what, these people Nike, 384 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:32.119 They're never going to hire me because I'm not famous. 385 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:36.000 So they hired someone because their father was Barack Obama. 386 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:38.599 Now that's a gripe. That is fair game. 387 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:41.839 Now the question I have is like, so the angles 388 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:44.799 and everything on the shot were similar or exactly the same. 389 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:46.799 It looked it looked like I love the way she 390 00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:49.839 shot that where the cameras are moving around, and they 391 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:51.799 were like, and then we got a shot of them 392 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:55.160 from the inside to the out, you know, but because 393 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:56.720 but if you're making that anyway, you would get a 394 00:21:56.759 --> 00:21:58.640 shot from the inside to the out maybe. And then 395 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:00.599 we got a shot of their close up their hands. Well, 396 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:02.039 of course you get a close up of their hands, 397 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:03.359 you know, if you're doing this A lot of us 398 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:08.759 just standard filmmaking. But it was the camera movements. I 399 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:11.160 think you just go like whoa, and someone lined them 400 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:13.799 up and you're like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a second. 401 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:15.960