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Speaker 1: What is going on?

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Speaker 2: Clippers fans that might have cut off the intro? What's

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going on? Clippers fan? I am Chuck Mockler joy by

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Adam Oslon and William Updyke. We are doing a happy

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hour live of clips and dip not.

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Speaker 3: Where did you get this spooky font for the names?

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Speaker 2: I got the spooky font from our fantastic streaming platform, Restream,

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which never has issues and always works. Josephry Award, how

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the heck are you?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 4: I literally have three seconds. I've got one take. Let's go,

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I've got one take. I think hear me out. Pablo

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Torre either lost several thousand dollars betting on the Clippers

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or Kawhi Leonard fucked his wife. The one of the

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two has to be what happened here because this is

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the most insane thing. Now Tyler is implicated. What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I thought you were just gonna cut to black after that.

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Speaker 5: No, I wish, I wish.

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Speaker 4: I'm driving, I can't. The production value was a little

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difficult when I'm driving.

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Speaker 1: Sure we can get out of the way.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the Clippers two and two records

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and the game against the Pelicans in a second.

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Speaker 3: But since we're on topic.

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Speaker 1: Since we're on the topic, Look, we've talked about this before.

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I have a lot of respect for publatory. Obviously, he's

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a great journalist. I don't get why he's like he

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thinks this is all the president's men. He's like, on

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is Bob Woodward right now? But way way less well

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dressed than uh Robert Redford's version from from set film.

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Speaker 3: He said some quote the tweet.

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Speaker 2: That's funny is there was one where someone basically asked, like,

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what are you going for here? And he said the ruth.

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It's like, great, it seems like you're stringing together a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of He just wants to be right at this point.

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He really wants to be right. He wants to be

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proven right. He also needs to be right because if

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he's not right, he potentially could be sued by Steve

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Balmer and the Clippers. So there's some things in there

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that he needs to be right on.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: With some of the Taylo stuff, it's like we're getting

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kind of into libel grounds with some of the Tyler reporting.

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Speaker 5: Sorry go ahead now, I was gonna say I think

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initially maybe he was just going for the truth that

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sure came across that way, and then Mark Cuban and

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him got into it, and now the Clippers are caught

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in the middle, and it feels like a pissing contest, and.

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly what it feels like.

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Speaker 5: Now. I will say this.

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Speaker 2: The pissing contest is gonna be Clippers fans piss is

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getting on someone's pant leg fan in this pissing contest.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, so too many, too many to be some splash.

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Speaker 5: There's some splash somewhere. Elite partitions though, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the Clipper. That's all we're saying about Pablo Tory,

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unless he wants to come on the pod, in which

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case I'll watch Adam yell at him for three hours.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't yell at him. He did start following me

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recently after I went after him in one show, and

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I thought maybe something would happen with that, but I can't.

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Speaker 3: You got a message him, Did you gotta open the

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line of communication?

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Speaker 5: Hey, I'm good that then the NBA gambling thing happens.

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I don't know. I took issue with one thing that

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I thought he was willfully off base with. But you

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know this, this stuff coming out today. Yeah, it does

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seem more personal the longer this goes on.

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Speaker 2: Come on, all right, thank you for joining the live.

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want to get into the lives, check us out at

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YouTube dot com Slash at Clippers podcast. The Clippers are

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two and two. People are kind of freaking out despite

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it being four games. Bradley Beal will be back against

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the Pels tomorrow, which is awesome. It's much needed obviously

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if you watch the last game. How are we feeling

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after two and two? Adam, You've been in the trenches

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defending the fact that it's only been four games.

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Speaker 3: Which I think is fair.

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Speaker 5: No, it needed defending, but apparently it does.

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Speaker 2: Do we think that just like basketball aside will? Do

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you think that the just the horrible letdown that Game

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seven was has kind of warped how some of these

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early season results are being digested?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. This is like part for

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the course.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know a lot of people came into

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this with some expectations. You know, we we finished the

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fifty wins last year. I would say that you know,

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this is a better roster in terms of you know,

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addressing some of the flaws and weaknesses.

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Speaker 3: It is pretty normal to a want to.

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Speaker 1: See results right away and be to take away some

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pretty like take some pretty liberal takeaways from a very

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small sample size.

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Speaker 3: So like, I'm not surprised by that at all. I mean,

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that last.

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Speaker 1: Game was completely disappointing, but every team is going to

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lay a stinker like that at some point early in

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the season, and maybe the Clippers are just sort of

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getting it out of their system, getting the out of

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their systems.

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Speaker 3: They got the old Yeah, they got the third guy.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, I mean the the last game was tough.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't hit a shot, which was their main problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, we're okay, except for the transition defense. The

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transition defense is twenty seventh of the league, which is

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not good. But again four games and also not a

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huge surprise, right, Adam.

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Speaker 2: This team is old. It's not like anyone came into

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the season thinking their transition defense is going to be elite.

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Speaker 5: No. Last year, I think they were middle of the pack,

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and you would take that considering the age of the

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team if they end up there this season, but are

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able to at least focus in a little bit more

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on the playoffs. What happened the last four games against

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Denver in transition was tough, right. I The flaws are

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going to be there now. The league has gotten even faster,

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so the Clippers weakness being transition defense, could be more

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embossed than what it was before. It could stick out

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even more because everybody else is playing faster after what

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happened last year with the OKC Thunder and the Pacers

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and the pace they were playing at with both of

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them getting to the finals, and everybody sees that, oh,

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we can catch you off guard. You know, a lot

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of teams were playing very good half court defense. This

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is how we're going to make up the difference. When

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it's tough to score out there, We'll get some easy

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ones in transition. So that's troublesome for the Clippers, and

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some of the effort has been poorror so far on

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that end, definitely, But we've also had two blowouts, which

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scuse a lot of the numbers. I would say there

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are two different types of blowouts. I thought the Jazz

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game they were just doa and then against the Golden

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State Warriors, they got down in battle back. They were

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down fifteen and they were up three at the half,

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so and then they just continue to shoot the ball

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poorly and there's not a lot you can do about

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that when you're getting decent looks and you just can't

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knock them down. There are nights like that. Their defense

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gave up ninety eight points. You give up ninety eight

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points at Golden State, you would assume you'd win that game.

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Speaker 3: Great call. I also.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't know they were two and two last year.

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Speaker 1: Have now the time to worry about five hundred ball

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is that that's where they're looking at the All Star.

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Speaker 2: Break, right. Yeah, if we're playing bad, then some of

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the good things that have been happening is Kawhi is

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moving incredibly well. There's some fatigue issues. Tylo said in

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the Golden State game him and Harden had to They

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just both got tired at the same time. So that's

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why we had that stretch where there was no hardened

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Speaker 3: But I was also tired.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, eight PM game for these guys and

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roster crunch, it's an old team. Beal being out is

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a big deal. He's there to be a safety valve

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or relief valve, I guess is a better term for Harden,

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so he doesn't have to sit that off.

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Speaker 1: But but I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, like Kawhi' is moving well, it's it's encouraging. And

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that game, like you said, Adam, they shot so bad.

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one could hit a damn bucket. It's not because the

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ball wasn't moving.

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Speaker 1: I do gotta say, though, Adam, I'm curious your thoughts

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on this. Skill wise, Beal is a great fill in

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for no uh, even an.

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Speaker 3: Upgrade and like a ball handling thing.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at the availability, considering how much

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we needed Norm last year, does that give you any

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long term concerns about the offense for this regular season?

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Speaker 5: It does, especially he so he played fifty three games

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each of the last two years for the Phoenix Cents

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on the Dot and he's thirty two now. Norm had

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his own injury issues at times, of course, and right

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the timing of it is the difference. Norm was healthy

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to start off last season. Obviously Kawhi wasn't there and

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Norm was huge and had a career year and then

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needed everything from him. If bio wasn't out early on

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to start this season, and we're thankful he's coming back

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against the Pelicans. I think it would look much differently.

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It's just the fact that it already feels like, well,

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he's older, he's had injury issues, and he's missed two

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games already. But I think the fact that they had

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two days off after the Golden State game and now

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that he's now he's available for the Pelicans game, that

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tells you this was somewhat planned. They knew he'd get

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a little extra time. So I'm not overly concerned. And

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this type of injury, it has nothing to do with

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the Nie scope that he had back in May. Was

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he got banged up by playing good defense against Phoenix.

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So I'm not overly concerned. But what you would just

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hope is they would have a better replacement strategy right now,

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and they haven't because Bogey's played so poorly, and it's

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been going back to the Denver series where he just

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hasn't looked the same. And I think it's a real

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low confidence going off with Bobdanovich right now.

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Speaker 2: And no preseason like he's he's playing himself back into shape,

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not excusing his poor shooting, because if you're gonna do

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one thing good for that's what we need you to

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do if you're Bogie. But yeah, he's his preseason was

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Game one. Yeah, like starting, which is not what he's

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supposed to do at all. He needs to hit those shots,

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for sure. It was nice he got some reps at

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the end of the Golden State game for like he got.

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Speaker 5: Off the snide, right, That's exactly what happened against Denver.

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He didn't make a shot the first two games, blow

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out Denver in Game three and Bogie comes in late

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and finally gets a shot to fall. It didn't manifest

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into him going off the rest of the series though,

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gives him some confidence for the next time he's out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how have we felt about hard Still feels like

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I put this on notes the system is booting up

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a bit, and again this is where you miss someone

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like Beale to help him take some time off.

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Speaker 1: But for I mean, he kept us the Clippers in

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the game against Golden State.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think he's been pretty good overall. His

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driving ability has been there. He had what the twenty

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six point first half against Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: Was it uh getting to the basket against Golden State?

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I was like, oh, this is great, Like I could

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see why he's tired for an older guy who does

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usually drive that much, but he was forcing the issue

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at the rim, which was cool.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think honestly, a lot of guys individually have

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looked good in spurts. It just hasn't all come together

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yet with consistency throughout quarters and looking like a cohesive

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unit on either end of the floor.

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Speaker 1: But four games, four games, I mean, it is just

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four games. Will how you felt about take the Warriors'

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rotation situation out of it where Kawhi, Harden and Zoo

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were all off the floor, because I don't think Tyler

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ever obviously wants to have to do that again.

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Speaker 2: How have you felt about tie four games? Basketball wise?

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Strictly on court thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Not in the realm of any green felt.

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Speaker 2: There's no green felt within a mile of We're not

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Speaker 1: I look, I think it's about as to be expected, right,

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Like he's gonna feel these guys out there's I think

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I'm gonna be watching a little bit more closely once

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we have a longer sample size of beal in the

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starting lineup. Uh, and he's actually like, like he can

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play with things a little bit more within a framework

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of what will actually be running out there, if that

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makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, someone's saying there's someone in the live comment saying,

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can we just fast forward to going after Giannis?

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Speaker 3: No, we can't. Why would we do that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's this idea.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm maybe I should hold off.

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Speaker 3: Can we all learn anything from this last era? Can

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we be done chasing thirty year old superstars?

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Speaker 1: Like, let's well, can we just let some shit happen?

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It's week one. They play their fifth game tomorrow. Yes,

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it's against an opponent that's worse than we are and

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has historically ruined our days, So it might be a

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weird game, which we will get to later.

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Speaker 2: But four games, it's I don't know, man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone overreacted. They got blown out by Utah. Everybody

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overreacted and said we're old, we're slow. And then they

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beat two teams. It did, but then they beat two

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teams that played faster than them, in Phoenix and Portland,

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who were younger, And then they had a really cold

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shooting night against the Golden State Warriors where their defense

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played pretty well, but they couldn't hit shots. That's all

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that's happened so far. This is long term. I think

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they're still in decent shape. The fact that Bradley Beal's

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already coming back is huge for this team. Right if

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they win over the Pelic and then split the next

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two games after that with OKAC coming to town, you're okay,

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you still have a chance to start off seven and

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three of the first ten games.

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Speaker 2: It's still there.

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Speaker 3: I'd take it.

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Speaker 2: And you know what has been, There's still also some

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really good things. There's guys. Chris Dunn has.

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Speaker 1: Been so good. He was so good in that Warriors game.

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Speaker 2: John Collins, I mean, elite like these two guys off

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the bench is unreal. We can talk about the starting

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lineup a little bit too, in terms of maybe some

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shuffling with that, but I don't think that'll happen because

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we haven't exactly seen the fully healthy starting line up.

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Speaker 5: I love somebody in here. Do you honestly see the

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Cliffs being okay? Sere Denver?

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Speaker 3: It's like.

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Speaker 5: They went seven against Denver and easily could have won

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that series. So yes, OKAYC is a different type of

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challenge for everyone. They are the defending champs, they're younger

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and getting better, so everybody, every team should just forget

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the season. That's who the.

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Speaker 2: Defense for the Thunder is. I wonder if there's gonna

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be a change post All Star Break like there was.

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Speaker 3: That's what Congress should be asking for a probe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, do we think Chris Dunn or Colin slips

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into the starting role at any point?

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Speaker 1: Also? Wait, sorry, that feels ahead of it. We do

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need to just shout them out for how good they've

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been to start the season.

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Speaker 3: It's been so nice to watch.

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Speaker 2: Chris Dun play defense again for this team. Was surprised

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he didn't start for Golden State.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I uh, I thought he was going to start

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that game after he started the second half against Portland

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instead of Bogee. But coach lou is trying to build

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up Bogee's confidence. They need him long term. You can't

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just give up on a guy who's only played two

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games so far. That's absurd because at some point they're

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gonna have guys out. There's gonna be back to backs,

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guys are gonna be Dane.

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Speaker 2: Du wait is now we have guys out now?

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Speaker 5: Sure? All I problem is Bogey came in, as you mentioned,

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without a preseason, and maybe that's contributing to his shooting woes.

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But that next time something happens and guys are out,

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they need Bogey to actually have some confidence in his shot.

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This guy in here keeps spamming talking about beat two

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horrible teams blown out by a horrible Utah team. This

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just in. The Denver Nuggets lost twice to the Washington

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Wizards last year with Jokis like it happens, guys, I'm

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here to tell you this stuff happens in the league.

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If you watch every other team as closely as you

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watch the Clippers, you wouldn't be as shocked by them

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losing to what's deemed as a bad team early in

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the season. And we warned you Utah does have some

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talent and they have no reason to take yet. So

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I don't know, It's not the craziest thing in the world.

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Speaker 2: And last year, like the Suns were sitting pretty at this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they were not in one. I think the first

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ten games.

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Speaker 2: It we do have veterans which which will work it out.

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Will have you felt about Zoo these first four games

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the Viz, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Felt good overall, It's still not like a jump, but

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I'm curious, like what other gear he really has at

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this point in terms of like of development, And I.

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Speaker 3: Think within the Clipper system.

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Speaker 1: Within the Clipper Clipper system, and obviously part of that,

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like at least on the offensive end, is going to

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be tied to how Harden is playing. And I don't

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think that we've seen peak there, so I think that

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that is going to be a level to unlocking him.

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Obviously offensively defensively.

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Speaker 3: Has been good.

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Speaker 1: I like, you know, the team has had some peaks

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and valleys on that end of the floor.

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Speaker 3: At times.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he does still get like a little

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disengaged as we've seen before, But I mean.

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Speaker 3: He's overall been very solid. He's been rock solid.

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Speaker 2: I think the offense kind of has been like a

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little shaky on the tracks, but it felt like But.

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Speaker 1: I do think that part of that is like his

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running mate, who, like, I mean, you know, there is

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no Zoo unlocked offensively if James Harden doesn't come to

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this team. Uh, and so when he's not at peak,

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I think that that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Adam, how do you feel about Zoo's first four games?

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We're all we're all Zoo truthers on it, Like if

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anyone who's listened to any of our work in the

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last five six years, we are pro Zoo.

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Speaker 5: Like anyone who's anti Zoo. At this point, it's looking

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pretty bad. You were on the wrong side of history

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to start, and it's pretty clear to everyone in the

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NBA how good is now. I think he's been a

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little bit spotty, but he's also so dependent on other

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guys getting him involved. I don't know how to look

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at when the overall offensive system isn't clicking throughout the

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forty eight minutes consistently, Like if eats Zuobots is probably

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going to be most affected by that because other guys

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are going to have the ball in their hands, obviously

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and be making those decisions out there, and he's obviously

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not going to demand to give me the damn ball

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like he's Keishawn Johnson, even though I would love that.

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I think he's looked really good at times. He was

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good against Portland. I was still frustrated because I felt

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like when they went into that offensive lole in the

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second quarter and they kept having all these turnovers, they

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could have just spammed Zoo a lot and he ended

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up with eight points in the quarter, felt like he

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could have had fifteen. Portland was going small. So it's

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still a work in progress with this team understanding what

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they have and it beats to zoobots and how good

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he is and how eight to score through him. But

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you know, there's nothing concerning so far. It's just it's

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a rhythm thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. If anything, if there is, there's

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obviously valid concerns for this team long term transition defense

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stuff like that. Rhythm being the problem, I think is

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a great way to look at what the Clippers issues are.

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Speaker 4: Like.

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Speaker 2: We're not saying that it's like a perfect team or

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something like that, but I love what you said about rhythm,

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where it's like, guy's gotta feel what it feels like

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to play well together. And they haven't even had the healthy,

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full roster for what it's gonna be, so we see

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things like the turnovers have been horrid to start the season,

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Like the turnovers have been they had I think it

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was again first half though, exactly.

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Speaker 3: So that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: They come in bunches, right, three in the first quarter

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against the Warriors, I think six in the second quarter

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against the Warriors, like it. It's spiked with their turnovers,

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which is and fair to be frustrated about. And when

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you turn the ball over and you don't and you're

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not getting back on defense, that's like a recipe for

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how to not pass.

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Speaker 1: The eye test.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's the Clippers' biggest weakness is their transition defense.

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You're feeding into that when you're turning the basketball over.

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And they had eight turnovers against Portland in that second

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quarter when the game was looking like it was getting

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out of hand. But this team also, going into the

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game against the Golden State Warriors, had the best effective

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fueld goal percentage in the league, I think the overall

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best fueld goal percentage in the league, So you could

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say they were due for a poor shooting night as well.

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It's just that's why I can't put that much into it.

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It's four games is nothing so far. You can't put

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that much what into a dome?

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Speaker 2: Go send us the check aspiration they are into it,

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you better send that check. Yeah, turners are bad, Transition

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defense has been bad.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you. They can blow out the Pelicans

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tomorrow night, and I still can't put that much into it.

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Speaker 2: I can't well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Because it's the Pelicans specifically, I would feel like they

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exercised some demails.

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Speaker 3: All their issues are fixed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if they blow the Pelicans out on Halloween, something

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is going up and putting a cone of atonement over

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the Clippers or something.

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Speaker 5: You know what. A lot of these people are gonna say, though, Oh,

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Pelicans are now zero to five, like you better beat them.

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They're not going to give the Clippers any credit.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into the Pels stuff, how have we

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felt about Chris Paul's performances so far?

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Speaker 5: He's been shaky, he had turnover issues, he had issues

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bringing it into the front court, which it was a

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little bit alarming. But I still go back to what

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I saw in the preseason with just how well he's moving.

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If he's moving well, I'm not concerned long term. Now

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preseason versus regular season, live bullets flying, and guy's actually

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playing at a faster pace. That's different, so it could

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be a shock to the system. But I still felt

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really good. He knocked down those two big three pointers

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against Portland in the fourth quarter. That was good to see.

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Let's cep three and all these older guys maybe get

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their sea legs here because that could also be a

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little bit of what's happening. Kawhi I was asked about

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that after the Golden State Warriors game and kind of

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was like, yeah, it's part of it, so we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think with Chris Paul, obviously throughout his career and athletic,

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lanky defender is gonna give him trouble. That's exacerbated when

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you're you know, ninety eight years old in NBA years.

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No disrespect to Chris Paul, that's just what he is.

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With how athletic these teams are now and they're still

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figuring the benchminutes out because that puts a crunch on

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everyone else on the bench. Right if Chris Paul is

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kind of having to make those early decisions or play

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a little more cautious, it makes it difficult.

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Speaker 5: But people asking like why is Bogey starting, It's like, guys,

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because they don't want to disrupt the second unit because

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Bogie was already out of the rotation, so you don't

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have to pull someone from the second unit, which has

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a domino effect of then with minutes. That's why it

474
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:32,880
makes a lot of sense. You can act like, oh,

475
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,319
they're being illogical, what's coach flu doing. No, there's a

476
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,960
lot of rationale going into this. You can make fun

477
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,759
of it because Bogie hasn't played well so far, but

478
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,400
in theory it makes a lot of sense. And I

479
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,480
with how good the second unit looked in the preseason

480
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,279
and everybody freaking out, and then immediately they have a

481
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:54,359
cup of bad game or two. It's like, oh, we

482
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,240
gotta change everything. I don't know. I just see that

483
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,519
a knee jerk reaction, and hey, I think Collins could

484
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:05,440
start tomorrow. I do because of Zion and what's happened

485
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:05,960
in the past.

486
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Speaker 3: Oh you'll see.

487
00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:10,319
Speaker 2: Will any final thoughts on these four games or anything

488
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:11,839
we've touched on before we get to the preview?

489
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: Throw the baby out with the bathwater.

490
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:24,279
Speaker 1: You're saying, lean in, lean into what's happening, fire Ty, Yeah,

491
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:30,599
don't need the flack train, Croster start, Chris Paul, Yeah,

492
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,079
it's gonna be It's I shouldn't say it's going to

493
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,880
be okay, It's most likely going to be okay.

494
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,279
Speaker 5: This guy in here is saying Bogie's last nine games,

495
00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:42,279
going back to the Denver series hasn't even looked like

496
00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:45,920
an NBA player. Guess what he has a body of work.

497
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,640
That is going to say you're gonna give a guy

498
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,039
like that more than nine games to say he's washed.

499
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:54,240
You're going to give him a lot more time, especially

500
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:57,119
because right before that playoff series he shot fifty percent

501
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,240
from three for over a month.

502
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: Also, that's not Yeah, that's not even a sixth of

503
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,839
what you would hope a player would play in a

504
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,000
regular season, let alone a career.

505
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: Also, and this might be an insane a to B

506
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,240
to G that I'm doing here, but I think the

507
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:17,960
fact that Bogey started for the people who don't want

508
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,759
him to play more that like because they want to

509
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:24,960
keep the bench rotation solidified, right, so they started Bogie.

510
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,880
What does that tell you about Bogie's place in the

511
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,000
bench rotation? You know what I'm saying, for a fully

512
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:34,000
healthy roster, if Bogie's starting for these games where it's

513
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,519
like we just want him to get his rhythm back

514
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:38,720
and they're not concerned about having him in the bench rotation,

515
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,079
if you are anti Bogie in the long run, you

516
00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:46,759
should feel okay, I guess because it doesn't seem like

517
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:53,519
they're prioritizing him getting consistency with the main bench unit.

518
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 5: And this guy is saying, well, you don't want them

519
00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:00,759
to disrupt the second unit, but tomorrow Collins could be start. Yes,

520
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,079
I'm saying that because I believe coming into the season

521
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,119
it could be matchup dependent with Collins in DJ and

522
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,119
this might be one of those examples where you're taking

523
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:11,519
on Team Mike the Pelicans where you have to be

524
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:15,880
bigger in the front line. Maybe they don't have Jonas

525
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,559
Valance Unis is not there anymore, some young guys.

526
00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: Anybody could be on this roster.

527
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 5: Well. The fact that I still love Zion and he's

528
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,000
playing right now means I wouldn't mind seeing John Collins

529
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,319
in the starting lineup, even if yes, that could disrupt

530
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:35,960
the second unit, because this is a unique circumstance where

531
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,359
you're going up against a guy who's just a monster

532
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:40,960
and has always hurt the Clippers on Halloween.

533
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: Pretty spooky monster. All right, we're gonna do a quick

534
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,240
fake audio break where we're gonna be quiet for one

535
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:50,880
point three seconds, and then we're gonna come back and

536
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,079
talk about the matchup against the Peals, because we are

537
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:55,200
putting this out on audio, And if you'd like to

538
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,160
catch one of these live streams, go ahead and set

539
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that alert for YouTube dot com at Clippers podcast audio

540
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break and then Clippers versus Pels talk coming up in

541
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:05,640
three two one.

542
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in.

543
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: We didn't leave. If you're watching this over on YouTube

544
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,319
dot com, which it is of course live, so you

545
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:15,799
can hop in stream comment, do that, subscribe over there

546
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:17,599
and then you'll know whenever we're doing this.

547
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: But anyways, we talked a little bit about to start.

548
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:21,160
Very disappointing.

549
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: I think I think we've all never been more upset

550
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,279
with the Clippers start.

551
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: Than we currently are.

552
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: But now looking into the Clippers taking on the Pills, well,

553
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:34,920
Halloween night game. One thing that's not very scary. Clippers

554
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,440
have a fully healthy starting lineup depending on how you

555
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,680
look at it, well, scary for other teams. Not scary, Okay, man,

556
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,720
got it. I was like, wait, that does feel scary.

557
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,559
Speaker 3: Going up against the Pills who are.

558
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: Zero and four, so they're bound to win one at

559
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,559
some point, Adam, do you think that's coming against the Clippers.

560
00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:04,279
Speaker 5: I don't like this scenario. Halloween desperate team haven't won

561
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:06,839
yet going up against the team they have all the

562
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,240
confidence in the world against, because the Clippers are four

563
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:13,920
and twelve their last sixteen games against the Pelicans.

564
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: I'm surprised. It's good.

565
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: We've won four.

566
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, believe it or not. There was even one game

567
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,359
in there during the twenty three twenty four season where

568
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,519
they just blew them out in New Orleans and we

569
00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:28,160
were all in shock when they were on that twenty

570
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:34,359
six and five run. Yeah, I'm concerned, but they've been

571
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:37,519
playing so poorly, and they don't have brandon Ingram, they

572
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:41,000
don't have yonas balance units. They're missing a lot of

573
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:44,920
the guys outside of Zion TJ McCollum, who used to

574
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:51,720
torch the Clippers torture them. Maybe the key is going

575
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:55,039
to be starting fast and making them feel like they're

576
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:56,839
not going to be able to stay in this ball game.

577
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,039
That's kind of how things have been going for the Pelicans.

578
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:00,920
They've been getting beat early.

579
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

580
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: You look at their graph on the the Basketball Reference,

581
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:11,680
you know, like the wind like the results graph. It's yes,

582
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:17,720
two very large red bars. I was looking in their

583
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:22,559
subreddit because I wanted to find some highlighted comments from

584
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,000
their subreddit postgame thread after their one twenty two to

585
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,920
eighty eight loss to the Nuggets, and these were just

586
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,160
some of the funny ones I found. It said, I

587
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,240
watched the team last year and that third quarter was

588
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:38,039
the worst quarter I've ever seen the team play. This

589
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,519
was by far the worst on court performance I have

590
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,039
seen from this complete uninjured group in the last five years.

591
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:46,920
We don't have the talent we think we do. Still

592
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,440
continue to get outwork out physical, and make the same mistakes,

593
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,039
so at least over there, they're not feeling good.

594
00:32:57,759 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 5: I think they got blown out in that third quarter

595
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:02,599
or something like thirty nine to thirteen by Denver.

596
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:10,599
Speaker 1: They are starting, yes, Tobrian said, Clipper killer DeAndre Jordan

597
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,279
tomorrow and it is the NBA Cup they're starting if

598
00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:17,559
I okay, how about this.

599
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,599
Speaker 2: I talked about Game seven leaving a bad taste in

600
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:23,119
people's mouths. That whole series that we lost. The DeAndre

601
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,720
Jordan minutes has very much left a bad taste in

602
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,160
my mouth. I would like to see us not lose

603
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:32,799
minutes against uh DeAndre Jordan.

604
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,559
Speaker 5: That would be good. The DeAndre Jordan Reggie Jackson game

605
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,599
from a couple of years ago was an all timer.

606
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:45,960
I know people are saying, you know, the Clippers can't

607
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,680
start fast. First of all, last season their first quarters

608
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,000
were much better. What were they up by against Portland

609
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,039
for the first quarter ten. They have shown it at times.

610
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,000
They they can do this, they just.

611
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,279
Speaker 3: They choose.

612
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,119
Speaker 5: I do think there's something to this if we want

613
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,360
to get back into starting lineup stuff, because who knows

614
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:17,239
what we'll see tomorrow. Chris Done in the game against

615
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,239
Phoenix turn that game back in the Clippers favor after

616
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,599
they were down by ten early with his defense, with

617
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,960
his tone setting. I think that was the game that

618
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,840
Patrick Beverley was at and he does the same thing

619
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,079
that Pat Bev used to do. Like you see a

620
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,599
guy out there playing that hard defensively, it kind of

621
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:36,559
inspires everybody else to play that hard. That's who Chris

622
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:39,079
Done is. And if at some point he's back into

623
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,360
the starting lineup because he's that concert reminder of how

624
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,599
you have to play to start games, I would not

625
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:47,039
be opposed to that either.

626
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at that. It might be interesting.

627
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,519
I wonder will do you think they'll do that for

628
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:55,199
beals first game?

629
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:58,519
Speaker 3: Why not?

630
00:34:58,559 --> 00:34:59,599
Speaker 5: I think it's coming tomorrow.

631
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I don't think it's coming on. I

632
00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:04,039
see the logic on.

633
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: Look for throw everything out the window, let's remake the formula.

634
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: Do we think is John Collins more likely to start

635
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,199
over Chris Done, just size wise, because Zion, as much

636
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:19,079
as I love Chris Dune, Zion is a larger human

637
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:21,119
being than Chris Done. He's a larger human being than

638
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:21,920
most human beings.

639
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,639
Speaker 5: But I know Chad, he's lost weight, he still is

640
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:27,800
a force. Did you see the dunk on Wemby the

641
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,400
start off that game a few days ago?

642
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: Uh?

643
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:33,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think John Collins is more likely to be

644
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,880
in the starting lineup. But again we do. We fall

645
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,280
into the trap all the time, putting so much into

646
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,239
the starting lineup and two's starting. Meanwhile, John Collins finished

647
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,840
that game out against the Portland Trail Blazers and was

648
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,400
great down the stretch, and everybody's like, they're not gonna

649
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,440
play him. He's only playing twenty five minutes a game.

650
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,559
No shit, When you get blown out twice, it turns

651
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:56,639
out the minutes are gonna be pretty skewed.

652
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, here's one start with Tom I can actually

653
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,119
maybe see them.

654
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,039
Speaker 5: Doing Sure, they just started him the second half against

655
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:08,559
Golden State.

656
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:11,119
Speaker 2: Why not shout out x Bongo Project, who's always in

657
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,840
lives and I feel like he's been watching us for

658
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,480
a while, So I appreciate that. Yeah, I could see

659
00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:20,239
him starting with tune Zion averages twenty two, six and

660
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,639
six versus the Clippers. De Pels are twenty ninth in

661
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,480
offensive rating and twenty ninth in defensive rating. Granted it

662
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:31,599
has only been four games.

663
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,039
Speaker 5: They're gonna be bottom ten in both those categories at

664
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:35,639
the end of the year.

665
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

666
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Fears is a guy who seems very good at

667
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,920
scoring two point buckets, not so much scoring three point buckets.

668
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,559
It is Halloween, it is the Pelicans.

669
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,159
Speaker 5: So.

670
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:58,679
Speaker 2: Shit, so that will They're twenty second in transition points

671
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,719
per game and twenty fifth and pace. Do you think

672
00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:06,960
they just try and sprint against us to open this one?

673
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,280
Is it that crazy of a strategy if you're another

674
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,559
team and just be like, what if we just tried

675
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:11,800
to play as fast as possible?

676
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: I mean, if you got the legs what you know,

677
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,159
Like why.

678
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: They do they got pool?

679
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:18,519
Speaker 3: Right? Fears? Yeah?

680
00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: Like why not poke at something that's you know, gonna

681
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,599
be a glaring weakness for another team? Anything you can

682
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:27,280
do to get an advantage, especially because as Adam said,

683
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,880
like you know, they get out to they get routed

684
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,840
kind of early, and then there's not much you can do.

685
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,119
Like if if there's something that they can do just

686
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:36,280
to flip a switch or change something, I don't know

687
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,360
why you wouldn't. Does that mean they're going to completely

688
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,519
change their style of play? I kind of doubt it,

689
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,800
but I mean certainly, like if you know, if I'm

690
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,239
in that coaching staff, I'm like, play a different style

691
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,039
of play as fast as possible.

692
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't seem to be in They don't seem

693
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,239
to be can I say this respectfully locked into any

694
00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:00,480
particularly effective offensive system right now? So if you are Pels,

695
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:03,559
it's like DeAndre just to hang out under the basket,

696
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:05,280
will just run fly routes.

697
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 5: I think the only way the Clippers lose this game

698
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,039
is if they let the Pells get hot from three

699
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:15,599
early and Jordan Poole is just going unconscious, Yeah, which

700
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:21,039
could happen, and turning the ball right right, those two

701
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,960
things could go together. They're walking into three pointers because

702
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,400
they got the Clippers entrant in the rotation, because they're

703
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,000
in scramble mode after live ball turnovers, and the Pills

704
00:38:32,039 --> 00:38:35,480
are just walking into three pointers like that. If you

705
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,440
give them confidence earlier, you're gonna be in trouble and

706
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,199
in for a long night.

707
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 2: Pool came off the bench versus the Nuggets, which I thought.

708
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't really know.

709
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: I don't think him playing and the starting lineup would

710
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,840
have particularly affected the outcome of that. But him off

711
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,480
the bench versus this Clippers bench is interesting just from

712
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,239
an age perspective.

713
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: But we do have done. I was assuming off the

714
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,840
bench to handle Pool.

715
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 5: Yeah. I you also, you gotta cut off the head

716
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,320
of the snake, which is Zion. If he just starts

717
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:15,519
bulling the Clippers right away, good luck. What you're saying, well,

718
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:19,719
the headless Zion Williamson, that's even more terrifying.

719
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, I want to see a big game

720
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,800
from Zoo. D flu is saying he's been seeing a

721
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,239
lot of shrugging from Zoo. I don't know if I

722
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,320
necessarily agree with that. He is not one of the

723
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,880
best body language artists on the team. No poker face,

724
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,800
no poker face. Yeah, I'll tell you what. He might

725
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,239
have a case against Tyleru if he lost some poker games,

726
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,199
But I think I don't think it because it is

727
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,880
cool to see a very dominant game. This is a

728
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,079
game where like all of the guys should be able

729
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,920
to put on a dominant display of what they're good at.

730
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,559
Speaker 5: And I mean, what's the Pelicans id entity? What is

731
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:04,559
their identity? I have no idea what type of team

732
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:07,360
they are. They're based around Zion while he's available in

733
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:07,800
the court.

734
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:17,079
Speaker 3: But even large winged bird elegance aren't scavengers.

735
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 5: They're looking for loose balls. Scavengers looking for loose balls

736
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,960
with the Clippers.

737
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,079
Speaker 3: I like this quote.

738
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,199
Speaker 2: Can we get long hair wig for Zoo on Halloween?

739
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:40,039
If not Halloween, then when, dude, why forget the NBA

740
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:47,519
Cup one game a year in costume? Mandatory costume?

741
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 5: I think KPJ tried that last year.

742
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:56,639
Speaker 1: God he showed up in that insane with guests? Uh Joe?

743
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: Didn't he play? Like ship that game?

744
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 5: You don't?

745
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:04,519
Speaker 3: I want to look it up? Oh do you?

746
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,599
Speaker 5: I also like, is he gonna take the makeup off? Like?

747
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:08,840
How is this going to work? Now?

748
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: Dude?

749
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,519
Speaker 2: You play in that game and then like anything happens,

750
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:14,280
like if it's not very good, you like, I guess

751
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,719
I have to put on this fucking purple.

752
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: Like okay, okay?

753
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: He shot.

754
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: He was six for twelve, zero for three from three,

755
00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:28,840
two assists, two turnovers, fourteen points.

756
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: In a loss.

757
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 3: Against the Suns.

758
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:38,039
Speaker 2: So still feel like an idiot, probably putting that joker

759
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:38,679
suit back on.

760
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 5: Oh that was the Sun's game where they came back

761
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,480
down twenty one or whatever at the half and hit

762
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:48,239
fifteen straight shots to start the third quarter. Yeah, oh god.

763
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: That Mexican Nara is saying, don't underestimate. I don't think

764
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,280
I am underestimating that. We know how this Clippers team

765
00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:58,840
can get beat unforced turnovers leading to poor transition defense.

766
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,280
And this is a young team, like you know, like

767
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,679
Zion wants to get out and run and transition against

768
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,559
one of the older teams in the NBA. I'm terrified

769
00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:09,159
for this game.

770
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 5: Maybe we should have hit the disclaimer hard to start

771
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,320
off the season. But with the team this old in

772
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,280
a long, a two game season, there are going to

773
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,000
be nights believe it or not, or they just don't

774
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,679
have it where they don't have the juice, they don't

775
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:28,599
have the legs, they don't have the pop. Would you

776
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:32,639
expect that night one against the Utah Jazz. No, but

777
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:41,159
it happened. Just beware it doesn't necessarily mean they don't care,

778
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,920
they don't want to win some nights they're just gonna

779
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:50,159
have it old. Yeah, hopefully Friday night is not one

780
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:51,800
of them. And they just had two days off, so

781
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,800
I would not expect that. I expect them to win.

782
00:42:55,039 --> 00:43:04,280
I expect them to win big on Friday. Honestly, you have.

783
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:07,039
Speaker 3: To pick what you're here for the last time. Uh,

784
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,440
we'll start with you.

785
00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 5: I think so much. Your internet is old and slow

786
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:30,760
like the Clippers. Uh, this this Pelicans game is dangerous.

787
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,440
Start fast, do not give them hope, give them the

788
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:40,719
Germany Renter hawkeye treatment. Do not give them hope. That's

789
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,800
how this game needs to be. And look, they're two

790
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,760
and ozer and into a dome. They have looked different

791
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,599
there so far. They shot the ball really well at

792
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:52,800
home to start the season. Will I would expect that

793
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:56,280
to continue, especially after two days off and getting Bradley

794
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:56,800
Buel back.

795
00:43:57,639 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because this will be the most important LA

796
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:06,519
sporting event of that evening, and I expect every I

797
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:08,639
expect the audience to act thusly.

798
00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:15,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if they're gonna have the Clippers.

799
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 3: Being at home also makes it a little different, makes

800
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,800
it a little different.

801
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: It makes it scarier, exactly, it makes it more terrifying.

802
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,599
Speaker 5: I do expect them to win big. If they don't

803
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,800
and they win close, I'm not gonna be upset, just disappointed.

804
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,079
If they got lose and start two and three and

805
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:45,519
there's more of the same issues going on, and yeah,

806
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:48,880
then we can start having a conversation because then it's

807
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,119
very unlikely they're going to start the first ten seven

808
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:54,760
and three and they and they let and they let

809
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,480
go of a good opportunity to start off the year

810
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:57,480
hot with the schedule.

811
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: What uh who's your Kawhi? Leonard James Harden the Beats

812
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,239
the Zoo Bots Player of the Game.

813
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 5: Pick I think you just named all three of my guys.

814
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 4: Uh.

815
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 5: I will go with John Collins. Hell yeah, because I

816
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,000
think he might start. And even if he doesn't, if

817
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,840
he comes in four minutes into the ballgame to play

818
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,159
against Zion, you know that's also okay, that's also acceptable.

819
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 3: And that's fine. Will gonna go Bradley Beal? Damn it

820
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:33,039
you're saying that.

821
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I'm hoping for some pot from him. A

822
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:41,159
nice little uh sat performance against the twenty ninth ranked

823
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:45,920
defense would be great.

824
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,039
Speaker 2: Just taking some pressure off hard like just like even

825
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:47,880
if he's just doing.

826
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: The little stuff.

827
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Mexican Nara is in the chat saying I

828
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,679
think Zoo is due. I agree, But for this particular segment.

829
00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:00,559
Speaker 1: Some reason, we are legally not allowed to choose Whiliner

830
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:02,880
James Hardener beats the Zoobots for our Player of the

831
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,320
Game pick.

832
00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:07,199
Speaker 2: This isn't Pingalore rules. We're not picking the obvious.

833
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: At one point the season, like in the last year,

834
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:15,639
the list got even longer than that. We added Norm

835
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:21,079
Powell to the list rightfully, so Bradley Beal might make

836
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:22,360
the list.

837
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 5: I think people once Bradley Beal gets going are going

838
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,559
to be more accepting for why they started too and two.

839
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:34,920
Oh we were missing this guy. Yeah, I think that's

840
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:36,079
a real possibility.

841
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:38,519
Speaker 2: Here started two and two last year won fifty games.

842
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:41,880
So I'm not exactly pulling what's left in my hair

843
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,280
out over it. I am going to pick. So we

844
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:51,800
got Collins, we got Biel. I want to say Lopez,

845
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,360
but I think I'm gonna go.

846
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm going.

847
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm going Derek Jones Junior.

848
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: A classic pick from last year.

849
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: A classic pick from last year. We're gonna need his athleticism.

850
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,880
It's a young team. I think they're gonna try and

851
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,079
run a little bit. He's just gotta make things a

852
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:12,480
little harder for them and transition. Like, I think this

853
00:47:12,559 --> 00:47:14,960
is a good match for Derek Jones Junior and John

854
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:19,960
Collins to show what they can do and a gain

855
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:23,000
in a singular game basis to kind of offset some

856
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:25,039
of the age and athleticism issues.

857
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 5: And low key DJ has been off to a great

858
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,639
start so far. Yeah, duding watch from the outside, he's

859
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:33,239
like forty six three. But you know what we're gonna do.

860
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:35,719
We're gonna be fair and say it's still a small

861
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,679
sample size. Let's let it play out. Even though good things.

862
00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: Let's let it play out.

863
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: One final note before we leave, Kobe Brown will not

864
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:48,039
have his option picked up. He will be an unrestricted

865
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:52,280
free agent after this season. If you were on Kobe

866
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,639
Brown Island, I got off a couple of weeks ago.

867
00:47:55,559 --> 00:48:00,079
I hope you brought some sunscreen lotion sucks, but I

868
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:00,400
don't know.

869
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: Not incredibly unexpected, Adam, where were you when you fell

870
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,320
to your knees and sobbed after seeing this push identification.

871
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:11,079
Speaker 5: The shooting has never turned out to be there for

872
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:13,079
him the way it was his last year at Missoo,

873
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:15,760
where he shot forty six percent from the outside. That's

874
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,920
his swing skill. Without that, it's probably not happening. He's

875
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,840
gonna turn twenty six in January. I'm rooting for him,

876
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:29,360
but it's tough on this Clippers team. You gotta be uh,

877
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:34,360
you gotta be really well. The Clippers would have to

878
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,440
be a lot worse, which is always interesting to see

879
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,559
people say, why don't we play the young guys because

880
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:40,559
they're winning.

881
00:48:40,679 --> 00:48:44,079
Speaker 3: Right, because we win fifty games.

882
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 5: Why aren't they playing Musa who's gonna win twenty five

883
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,920
games this year in Charlotte? Like, uh, yeah, because there's

884
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,519
a reason for that. But you know, I like Kobe.

885
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:56,119
He still has some intangible stuff and kind of a

886
00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:59,679
jack of all trade stuff. That's interesting. If the shooting

887
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:01,280
ever came around, it'd be big.

888
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

889
00:49:02,159 --> 00:49:06,079
Speaker 2: This comment from Chub got me large samples for Kobe.

890
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 3: That is true.

891
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:10,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could like kind of connect plays, but it's

892
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:12,719
just like his foot speed wasn't there on the perimeter

893
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,840
for defense. It's like one of those he was huge,

894
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:22,719
very large guy. But we'll wear Kobe Brown jersey.

895
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 3: Well, I gotta call my laser guy first.

896
00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:31,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta get that Kobe Brown holding the Larry

897
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:34,480
O b. You gotta get the year scratched out on

898
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:34,880
that one.

899
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: Larry Kobe, All right on the Larry Kobe, No, we

900
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,039
are going to get out of here.

901
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: There is a depending what happens in the Dodgers game,

902
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,920
there might be a post game after the Clippers versus

903
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,920
Pelicans game. How are they affected you? You have to

904
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,679
figure that out. We'll be back Sunday to talk the

905
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,599
back to back versu the Heat Thunder next week will

906
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:06,800
Where can people express their love or disstain with this

907
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:07,960
podcast publicly?

908
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can just go ahead and yell your disdain

909
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,199
into the wind.

910
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: Janie look in the sky style. If you'd like to

911
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,199
praise this pody, you can do that, of course, or

912
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,039
on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. You can also comment on

913
00:50:23,199 --> 00:50:25,199
any single one of our videos over on which you

914
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,800
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916
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,000
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917
00:50:34,039 --> 00:50:36,800
in the chat. But however, you listen to every of you.

918
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 3: You know, we appreciate you.

919
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:39,599
Speaker 1: We really do.

920
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: An adam Oh, someone's saying clips and no dip, no

921
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,039
dip for the regular season.

922
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,159
Speaker 3: We gotta lock in.

923
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 2: We gotta lock in, dude, we did dips every week.

924
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,679
We wouldn't I wouldn't watch any of the games.

925
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 3: I wouldn't know that.

926
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 2: The season's over after four games, Adam. One positive thing

927
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,920
for for Clippers fans as we head into this spooky.

928
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:08,679
Speaker 5: Weekend, well, Bradley Beal's coming back. I think the Clippers

929
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:13,199
are going to play very well tomorrow and at that

930
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,440
point once you're a game above five hundred at all

931
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:21,320
as well in clipernation, guys, this this moment of time

932
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:24,880
where we are eight days in to the start of

933
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,800
the season, it will pass. Here's what I would say,

934
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:34,199
look to Kawhi Leonard's overall win percentage. Kawhi is healthy.

935
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,239
The odds say, if Kawhi is healthy, you're gonna win

936
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,719
a lot of games. So let's look forward to that

937
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,840
happening because I think he may still have the best

938
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,000
regular season win percentage in NBA history or somewhere around there.

939
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,119
Speaker 1: It's pretty damn close. Thank you bon Saw twenty eight

940
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:54,920
for saying no different the season casual.

941
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 3: That is so funny.

942
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: We love everyone who hung out and yes everyone is

943
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:01,559
thank you so much.

944
00:52:03,199 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be back.

945
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: Everyone stays, have a safe and enjoyable Halloween weekend. Things

946
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:12,159
can get weird, and as always, let's go clips.

947
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 3: We'll see you soon.